Dmitri Shostakovich: Symphony No.8, Kurt Sanderling, Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra in 1997

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  • Off air tape from German public radio NHK, not available as part of the BPO digital concert hall.
    Listen to this performance of Shostakovich 15th symphony with the Berlin Philharmonic, the only other public performance of Sanderling and this orchestra:
    • Dmitri Shostakovich: S...
    8th: Legendary performance of this symphony by a conductor who worked very closely with the composer. In this concert he was a substitute for the ill Günther Wand on short notice. Günther Wand was scheduled to conduct Schubert symphonies No. 8 and 9.
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  • @Dylonely42
    @Dylonely42 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    - How dramatic do you want your symphonies to be ?
    Shostakovich : Yes.

  • @Dylonely42
    @Dylonely42 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    The transition between the third and the fourth movements is utterly insane. Shostakovich’s orchestration is stunning.

  • @fiacchi
    @fiacchi ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This is unbelievable.

  • @hectorberlioz1449
    @hectorberlioz1449 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Incredible intense performance, never heard this symphony better....

  • @stephenhall3515
    @stephenhall3515 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Apart from the timpani hitch (which one can "unhear") this has to be the best Shost 8th of all.
    Sanderling always played it so every part was clear and, by displaying the structure as well as the sonics being perfect, his performances were on a sort of double level.
    Evidently standing in for a sick Gunter Wand, it is probable that Sanderling chose the 8th instead of what was on the original programme menu. Wand is not known to have ever conducted Shost 8th. We can only imagine what rehearsal time was available.
    This consideration makes the performance all the more miraculous.

    • @OE1FEU
      @OE1FEU  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wand was scheduled to conduct Schubert's 8th and 9th symphony. Obviously Sanderling thought that the BPO was the perfect canvas for Shostakovich 8th symphony.
      I agree. I was there, twice and this was an earth-shattering experience, both times.

  • @Discovery_and_Change
    @Discovery_and_Change 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    0:33 begins | 13:00 flute build up | 13:27 next build up | 13:49 military climax
    13:58 scary

  • @cristianmunozlevill1265
    @cristianmunozlevill1265 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    17:40 What an unbelievable climax. Bravissimo.

  • @Tortuosit
    @Tortuosit ปีที่แล้ว +6

    23:48 until the end of movement one. That's where my mind is in some state somewhere out of this world. It's the bestesttest any composer has ever written.

  • @user-cw9qy1ik4v
    @user-cw9qy1ik4v 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What a vivid depiction of the horrors of the WWII.
    Made me cry.

  • @billsezame4132
    @billsezame4132 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Sanderling said that the first movement " was one of the crowning achievements of his (Shostakovich) life. I cant imagine a single episode being condensed or deleted, and there's not a single bar that could be omitted." That can be said of the whole symphony. What a terrific performance!

    • @Tortuosit
      @Tortuosit ปีที่แล้ว

      The Sanderling recordings with the Berliner Sinfonieorchester are a heaven send. And given their recording date, they are of exceptional quality. The 8th is grim and rough, as it has to be.
      If I hear a performance which starts soft and legato, I lose all interest.
      This performance here with Philharmoniker is comparable.

    • @Dylonely42
      @Dylonely42 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Indeed

    • @christophbader3713
      @christophbader3713 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think also the 3rd and 4th movement combined are an absolute marvel. My only critique about the fourth movement is, that it could be twice as long even. Just such an amazing “place” to be in.

    • @JulianusRex
      @JulianusRex หลายเดือนก่อน

      I could do without the first 10 minutes.

  • @diogenesagogo
    @diogenesagogo ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Shostakovich's compassion & understanding of the flawed human soul runs through all his music like a golden thread. I just pray someone like him is running the universe.

    • @IntelligentArtefact
      @IntelligentArtefact ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I just wish there was someone like him running Russia.

    • @zinam5795
      @zinam5795 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ...That's His Time, Authors--no running...

    • @user-mr3cz5vt6n
      @user-mr3cz5vt6n หลายเดือนก่อน

      And which bungling xxx created these flawed human souls?

  • @mintdb8365
    @mintdb8365 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Great performance!!!! I’m in tears

  • @Tortuosit
    @Tortuosit ปีที่แล้ว +15

    25:10 The transition back into the main theme, out of the darkness, this it where it gets me. Shostakovich was so awesome in those transitions. Something related is the return into the main theme in Sym 5/1, where he pitches all violins up to go to that key.
    Shostakovich was the best composer of the 20th century, I hope one day there is a successor.

  • @ThomasOgrodnik
    @ThomasOgrodnik 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    First Movement - 00:33
    Second Movement - 28:30
    Third Movement - 35:17
    Fourth Movement - 41:48
    Fifth Movement - 51:38

    • @Dylonely42
      @Dylonely42 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you.

    • @KentaPenta64
      @KentaPenta64 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks!

  • @jgesselberty
    @jgesselberty ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Not only is the performance superior, but the camera work is a symphony in and of itself. Beautifully filmed.

    • @aalleexxii
      @aalleexxii ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The zoomout at the end is well chosen.

  • @TimSwensen
    @TimSwensen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Dominik Wollenweber's english horn solo was beautiful. Very interesting to see numerous current principals of the orchestra featured here in their youth. Emmanuel Pahud, Stefan Dohr, Wenzel Fuchs, Daniele Damiano. Really nice playing.

    • @OE1FEU
      @OE1FEU  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      00:19:02 Yes, that was breathtakingly beautiful, full of sorrow, emotion and beyond any orchestral solo I've ever heard. I attended this performance twice and it gave me the goosebumps every time.

    • @jmwoods190
      @jmwoods190 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is also Manfred Preis, the recently retired bass clarinetist!

  • @stevenwilgus5422
    @stevenwilgus5422 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Play the final five minutes of the Fourth WITH the opening of the Eighth (with the same volume. The bridge is remarkable.)

  • @jauscielinginclusive3873
    @jauscielinginclusive3873 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    BRAVO BRAVO TANK YOU ALL OF YOU FOR A RELAXING AND ENJOYABLE VIDEO

    • @detectivehome3318
      @detectivehome3318 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Relaxing 🤣🤣
      Have you listened to 17:38

  • @paytporik
    @paytporik ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Shostakovich! Shostakovich!! Shostakovich !!! Shostakovich!!!! Shostakovich!!!!! Shostakovich!!!!!! Shostakovich!!!!!!! Shostakovich!!!!!!!! Shostakovich!!!!!!!!! Shostakovich!!!!!!!!!! +++++++++ Kurt Sanderling!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ++++++++Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @joshlorenz1510
    @joshlorenz1510 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    holding breath, falling in parts... flashing, flabbergasting!

  • @valerieheinderyckx4506
    @valerieheinderyckx4506 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Très intense...

  • @willyhwang1059
    @willyhwang1059 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I’m still waiting for a metal band to cover the third movement

  • @sylviapuccetti9602
    @sylviapuccetti9602 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    thank you for sharing this beautiful symphony and the wonderful interpretation

  • @scuunjieng
    @scuunjieng 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    am sorry I never got a chance to watch him live. what a performance and from someone around 85.

  • @antoniopapini3096
    @antoniopapini3096 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    muy buen registro

  • @seanoslin5299
    @seanoslin5299 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Cathartic

  • @ortegoortego4963
    @ortegoortego4963 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    дааа... весёлая музыка

    • @Dylonely42
      @Dylonely42 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ?

    • @scorntorrent3292
      @scorntorrent3292 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ржунимагу

    • @zinam5795
      @zinam5795 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      .
      ....Особенно Скерцо веселит...!

  • @josearmandoestrada305
    @josearmandoestrada305 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Espléndida dirección de una bellísima sinfonía.

  • @32132187
    @32132187 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    35:18 steam locomotives rush towards each other

  • @datokarchava6445
    @datokarchava6445 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    19:54 the violist looks like Mahler

  • @Odin_Limaye
    @Odin_Limaye 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Probably the greatest 20th century symphony ever composed!

    • @kennethdower7425
      @kennethdower7425 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Or, Nielsen 5th.

    • @IntelligentArtefact
      @IntelligentArtefact ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@kennethdower7425 Nielsen 5 is wonderful, but DSCH 4-8-10 + 13 are the supreme contenders.

    • @kennethdower7425
      @kennethdower7425 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@IntelligentArtefact I'd agree, with perhaps Sibelius 4th and Walton 1st.

    • @Dylonely42
      @Dylonely42 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Rachmaninoff’s second, Mahler eighth.

    • @Dylonely42
      @Dylonely42 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Shostakovich 11th alongside this one.

  • @Tortuosit
    @Tortuosit 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    38:50 The satirical part

  • @cafenero1164
    @cafenero1164 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    38:50

  • @Tortuosit
    @Tortuosit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for uploading, I always prefer Kurt Sanderling/Berliner, own all those recordings. I wish he conducted #11, but there is Haitink/Concertgebouw a heaven sent.

    • @OE1FEU
      @OE1FEU  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You must be talking about his recordings with the Berlin Symphonic Orchestra.
      This one here is the Berlin Philharmonic and he only conducted this orchestra with two different programs in 4 concerts altogether and only one (with No. 15) was released as a recording on an obscure label.

    • @Tortuosit
      @Tortuosit 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@OE1FEU Yes you are right, I meant the ones with Berliner Sinfonie-Orchester.

    • @dieterbarkhoff1328
      @dieterbarkhoff1328 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I dislike the 11th and 12 as much as I hate the 7th. Believe me, I am a HUGE Shostakovich fan, but these 3 pieces are Made to Order Propaganda Pop music and I doubt Shostakovich rated them. I am a very big fan of symphony 4 and I wish Kurt Sanderling - along with Furtwangler, my favorite conductor EVER - had recorded it. 2 and 3 are inconsequential steps towards the sheer magnificence of the 4th.
      Not only is Sanderling one of two favorites, he is also the most UNDER-RATED conductor in history. Unlike his adored colleague, Mravinsky , Sanderling conducted with 'soul'. Mravinsky was a superficial time beater in comparison.

  • @neil7137
    @neil7137 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank you for uploading! In the description you mentioned that Sanderling substituted the ill Günter Wand. I wonder if the original programme is Wand conducting Shostakovich 8 or perform other works? Because it's interesting if Wand ever (want to) conduct Shostakovich, it seems like it's not in his repertoire.

    • @IntelligentArtefact
      @IntelligentArtefact 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Perhaps the Shostakovich 8 was also a substitute for the sick Bruckner 8?

    • @obiwan88
      @obiwan88 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, I was curious for the exact reasons, because I don't seem to hear maestro Wand conducting any Shostakovich...
      Perhaps by chance the BPO got to play this symphony, which their usual conductors wouldn't touch...

    • @OE1FEU
      @OE1FEU  2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Wand was scheduled to conduct Schubert 8th and 9th symphony. Obviously Sanderling was granted enough rehearsal time to replace this programme. He must have been a roaring success with the BPO, because they later invited him as the conductor for an out of season special concert with Alfred Brendel playing the Schumann concerto and Sanderling conducting the 15th Shostakovich symphony.
      Which was nothing short of spectacular and I was happy to attend this one as well.

    • @obiwan88
      @obiwan88 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@OE1FEU Thank you so much for filling in the information. The above performance is a very special one, probably coming from a person who experienced first hand what Shostakovitch was trying to depict.
      Outstanding BPO musicianship, bravo to both maestro and orchestra!

    • @Tortuosit
      @Tortuosit ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@obiwan88 The one you can buy with Berliner Sinfonieorchester and Kurt Sanderling is comparable to this performance here. My absolute favourite one as for #8. Island disk.

  • @JJBRMusic
    @JJBRMusic 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    37:06. Damn.

  • @Tortuosit
    @Tortuosit 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    48:23 Pasacaglia clarinet solo

  • @jakenowell5211
    @jakenowell5211 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    37:20 trumpeter looks like Manfred honeck

  • @ondrejsedo8659
    @ondrejsedo8659 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Tympanist gets lost starting 17:30 :-(

    • @Quotenwagnerianer
      @Quotenwagnerianer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Oyy. Indeed. Totally. Never finds back in in the entire passage.

    • @Cadenza93
      @Cadenza93 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah kinda ruined the best part of the piece

  • @hybridlife5303
    @hybridlife5303 ปีที่แล้ว

    間違いなく一期一会・世界最高の8番、NHKは早く権利関係をクリアしてハイブリッドSACD化もしくはDVD化することを望む

    • @Tortuosit
      @Tortuosit ปีที่แล้ว

      Any news about it?

  • @AndreyRubtsovRU
    @AndreyRubtsovRU 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Scherzo in one. huh. interesting.

    • @technik-lexikon
      @technik-lexikon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because of the gigantic opening movement, it was necessary to choose the Scherzo as the 2nd movement. He did this also in his symphony 10

    • @AndreyRubtsovRU
      @AndreyRubtsovRU 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@technik-lexikon I mistyped, I meant 'in one', as in conducted in one.

    • @bartrazin
      @bartrazin ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@technik-lexikon Not only in this and the tenth but also in the first,fourth,fifth,sixth,seventh and thirteenth symphony.
      And you could say that the third movement is a scherzo which in itself recalls the sixth symphony.

  • @grandepittore
    @grandepittore ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder if the symphony would have sounded different if Maestro Sanderling's collar had been turned down.

  • @mark-shane
    @mark-shane 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great symphony but as often is the case Terrible direction by the TV ..

  • @doromamire
    @doromamire 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    おお安永徹ではないか。久々に見た。さういへば最近どうしてゐるんだらう。まだ現役だと思ふが全然話を聞かなくなつた。Sanderlingはまあよからう。