Why it might be useful talking about Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID) with friends and family

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  • In this video, Dr Mike Lloyd, The CTAD Clinic Director, discusses how and why it might be useful to share that a person has Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID) with their friends and family. Mike goes through the circumstances that may need to be present before this is done and the benefits of talking openly about dissociative experiences, such as having parts (alters).
    While not suitable or appropriate in all instances, Mike talks about what can be gained if the decision to share that a person has DID is made.
    This is a question that has been asked several times in the CTAD Clinic Channel comments, and we would like to thank you all for these.

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  • @joopyjazz1
    @joopyjazz1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    I really wish doctors would go out of their ways to help study our cases, so many of us would love to get brain scans have tests and record results. It would be an amazing medical community progression

    • @thectadclinic
      @thectadclinic  4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Jazz Howell It would be great, sure. One day there may be sufficient tests and trained staff to see what is happening to everyone who would benefit from it. Along way to go, but science is beginning to help the cause.

    • @jojojo8835
      @jojojo8835 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@thectadclinic From what I’ve seen of research papers there are already enough useful tests to contribute usefully to various mental health diagnoses. If psychiatry wants funding parity with physical health it’s going to have to start using them, but that would mean relinquishing power. The usual argument that on an individual case basis they’re not conclusive enough is irrelevant, since many tests in physical medicine are still used routinely even though they aren’t conclusive in and of themselves.

  • @maggie0285
    @maggie0285 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I think therapists too struggle with treating clients with DID because they too are afraid of being judged by their colleagues because its such a controversial disorder. It still blows me away how movies like Sybil is what everyone thinks a dissociative disorder should look like. It's time to move past that once and for all.

    • @sr2291
      @sr2291 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It is only controversial because people are making it controversial.

    • @cryschanel32
      @cryschanel32 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I hid from my diagnosis for 5yrs, because that was the only type of representation I had. It matters 🖤🖤

    • @byrnehermanson6052
      @byrnehermanson6052 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Former therapist here. You speak some truth. It takes bravery. One must be sure of what one knows as well as sure of the healing that is possible!

    • @DTheHAge
      @DTheHAge 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Something that is inside the DSM as well as the ICD, should not be considered controversial. Don't get me wrong, discussing and improving definition is very good, like that they changed the personality disorders into a more spectrum like construct in the ICD-11. But to invalidate a diagnosis that is recognized in official documents, is not a constructive way.

  • @elliedupont2269
    @elliedupont2269 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    A discussion on parenting with DID would be really useful. I have a 5 year old daughter and it’s been hard in so many ways as I was only diagnosed after having a breakdown after she was born. I’m lucky to have an amazing husband and a great therapist who is trained in DID and they are helping me a lot, teaching me how to bring her up and what ‘normal’ parenting is, but I have so much anxiety about bringing her up properly

    • @thectadclinic
      @thectadclinic  4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Eleanor Dupont Hi Eleanor, I really hope the last video I put up will be helpful to you, on parenting with DID.

  • @alittlespacetime
    @alittlespacetime 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ❤❤❤
    My husband is our rock. He updates when things have happened and a caregiver when less functional parts are present. It's helpful.

  • @TheOriginalMickyFin1
    @TheOriginalMickyFin1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You know, it is so good to hear someone saying that it's OK to seek help from family and friends. That it is OK to be dissociating, showing parts. When we went to clinics or therapists, we so often heard that "the adult part always has to keep control" (we don't have a "host" as such...), don't "spread" your DID or your parts, dissociation has to be stopped, it's a bad thing, etc. So every time we were switching in front of people we felt so ashamed, so guilty because we just couldn't do what was demanded. We felt that we were just too stupid to take the responsibility. We've felt wrong all the time, trying to be normal, trying to hide everything and not being able to just "be that adult" and go on with things... And you actually saying that it's OK to ask friends for feedback, or a ride to therapy, or actually showing the alters, is such a relief.

  • @bekind8830
    @bekind8830 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    My partner knows about mine and my 9 alters granted he's only ever personally met 4 of them .we have been together 16years but I just told him this year. He said he already kinda knew which was news to me as I thought it was more covert than it was I suppose . He has a great relationship with two Littles a 4 yr old and 6 yr old ... he is friends with my main protector who is male and is in a relationship with the alter that fronts most often and is usually Co con with me..... it's beautiful really but I will say I don't think we were ready until this year to do that (tell him) it was such a weight off me bci felt I was lying to him for years and that he wouldn't ever truly know "me" without telling him

  • @trudylyte2660
    @trudylyte2660 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What i hear is so ideal ...if only ... im hearing your description of the one who dissociates with no one to help after therapy sessions (2 hours later sitting somewhere random)..yeah public display of dissociation is a hard one.......
    i do have people around me but they are NOT capable of helping ... wish someone was kind enough to make me a cup of tea lol

  • @Maremacbmf
    @Maremacbmf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Yea the mother recently told us that she knew something was really wrong with us @2 yrs .. that we did not value family - that we actually hid away from the grandmother and uncles meant we were crazy/sick/ hostile (- yes she said that.) well, with THAT attitude.. we won't give her any fuel any time soon.
    We do have friends that know... one housemate who never brings DID up but if I do.. he often tells us someone he's met or seen. Kinda more relaxed than we feel but certainly helpful.

  • @noahreynolds1668
    @noahreynolds1668 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I have talked to my partner about it, and he is aware of my DID but doesn't want my alters to be overt. I have done a lot of work for a very long time since I'm 30 now, and I am in pretty good control of my alters, so there's no real reason he ever has to interact with them directly, but it doesn't feel very positive and I'd like him to build a relationship with them. I am not in therapy at the moment and I struggle to know if I should work towards creating an environment where he would feel more comfortable meeting them properly, or if I should leave it be. This video makes me wish more than ever that they could be more overt around him since I feel it would improve my relationship with them, and some of the issues I've been having with my "parts."

    • @jodiearagona7240
      @jodiearagona7240 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yup...

    • @thectadclinic
      @thectadclinic  4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Noah Reynolds I hear you, it can be really tough gaining that acceptance.

    • @cirrusfloccus6080
      @cirrusfloccus6080 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I don't know if this helps, but when we found out we actually didn't give anyone a choice. I explained to my boyfriend and my friends what DID was and then everyone was allowed to be open about who they are/come out around anyone. They just went up to those friends and said "Hi, I'm XYZ". Some friend reacted really weird at first... but over time, they came to except us as multiple people (well, minus one person who left). People don't want to hear about things that makes them uncomfortable or they might rather not because they don't know how to react. But if you give them no choice, they only have the option to either accept it or hurt you - and most people wouldn't intentionally hurt someone they love.
      Yes, there is a small chance that your partner would leave if you basically forced him to meet your alters.
      But for me it was clear, from moment one, that not accepting us as a system was to not accept who also I was fundamentally (part of a system). And not accepting the trauma (ignoring it). A child alter of ours once described it as "being punished for being abused" (they exist because we were abused and to not allow them to come out was punishing them for that). I'm just rambling on at this point. English isn't my first language, so I feel like I can't properly say what I want to say, but I'll leave it at that.
      I really hope you'll all manage to built a better relationship with your partner!

    • @likeabunnie
      @likeabunnie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@cirrusfloccus6080 you made perfect sense, and we agree with you :)

    • @cryschanel32
      @cryschanel32 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Without the support, patience and love from my wife, I would be a lot worse off. A partner should help you thrive and grow, not love you conditionally. I hope your partner learns to accept all of you - parts included. Validation and acceptance helps to heal. Good luck to all of my fellow systems out there, I hope you find your happy 🖤🖤

  • @xdarksamurai11x
    @xdarksamurai11x 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    serious tears in my eyes from this. everything said resonate so much. my finance of 11 years knows about my DID and has made friends with just about the entire system. I wud not know as much about my alters or my time away without him. i did end up discussing it with my family but it turned to trauma talk very quickly and now they just ignore it exists, it makes me sad. im sharing this video as much as i can. thank you!!

  • @ourcreativeliving1476
    @ourcreativeliving1476 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    www.sheppardpratt.org/knowledge-center/condition/dissociative-identity-disorder-did
    "Family Involvement: Family treatment, usually with the patient’s spouse, or significant other can be helpful, for education and to help support both the patient and the family during an often long and difficult treatment. In particular, family members are educated to not directly interact with the patient’s varying self states, but should regard their partner as a “whole human being,” and not a group of separate “people.” Specialized couple’s therapy may be helpful if the therapist is knowledgeable about treatment of childhood trauma and its impact on adult relationships. "
    Thank you for this perspective. So welcomed. Above I copied this hospitals DID program info. I am so utterly disheartened that this mentality still exists 20+ yrs later. Family/friend support, understanding, acceptance is so critical to healing, not further ignoring, dismissing, abandoning, etc.This is supposed to be one of the best tx centers inpatient for DID

    • @thectadclinic
      @thectadclinic  4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      ourcreativeliving It is sad, as the best outcomes arise, in my experience, from the holistic approach - see all, help all, but always consider where the person wants to be getting to and respect what is there.

  • @ceridwentaliesin798
    @ceridwentaliesin798 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for all the useful suggestions, particularly ways to say "the cause of my DID is personal, and I prefer not to discuss it." Yery much looking forward to the video on parenting with DID.

  • @amandadales6518
    @amandadales6518 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Very helpful and informative once again Dr Mike Lloyd!! 👌 please do say more about being a parent with DID and discussing with kids etc thank you!! 😁

  • @artgoing
    @artgoing 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    So I’ve had a dissociation problem for about a year now. (I don’t claim to have DID, due to not wanting to self diagnose but I do have alters) I found out about other “alters” or how I called them when I was younger, “spirits”.
    When I was talking to a an online friend. I must’ve switched because when I came back, I read the older messages I sent with complete confusion and fear, and my friend was harassing me because I was “roleplaying”....
    don’t worry that relationship went down the drain from there.
    Any who, my family and friends and even some teachers know about my dissociation problem. (I’ve confronted a psychologist but they wouldn’t look into any kind of dissociative disorder due to me having “too many alters” and too many fictional characters as alters so they diagnosed me with major depressive disorder and since the virus came out I haven’t been in another session... /I have 35 known voices as of now. And it honestly scares me more than anything but I try not to show it/.) Note: I barely had interaction with adults or even kids my age, when I was younger, so I used cartoons as a escape.
    The one person I’m open to most about it is a teacher and my friend. The teacher isn’t the issue- my friend is.
    Okay so- my friend after I said I had these “spirits who’d take over my body” (alters basically-) he said he did too- but he doesn’t dissociate at all and is never really different. Although I do get that dissociative disorders can be very hidden and barely noticeable.. but as someone who dissociates on a daily basis.. I’ve never seen these signs with him.
    Plus, you’d expect him to be kinder to my alters if he had any himself. (He said one of them was “screwing me over” once- and “one alter is always an asshole, get rid of them because they’re a dick”.. he’d also RANK my alters on an attractive scale when I’d show pictures of how they see themself. He’d even call some of them “sketch” or say “ew” (this made me uncomfortable..)
    *this happened to an alter when he showed my ex a picture of him and they said ew. He hasn’t been active since then.* it hurts to see an alter go from confident about his looks to shattered and uneasy with his looks.
    Not only that.. that friend (not my ex) called me mentally ill once, and said he needed better energy to be around when an alter said “I like you” to him.
    I don’t know if I should drop him or.. he’s my last friend (no literally-) and i don’t want to leave him because I’m also his last friend. But maybe this relationship is more toxic than I thought?
    I need some tips, if nobody minds me asking.
    Sorry for the long paragraph too- it’s been bothering me and I don’t know where to start.. (I might also need tips on the psychologist stuff too.. what they told me doesn’t seem right to everything else I’ve heard.)
    If anyone sees this, I hope you have a good day or night. Thanks for reading if you did. Stay safe

  • @noorasaetre4527
    @noorasaetre4527 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thank you so much🥺🥺 I recently discovered your channel and you're making us calm after our current therapist said that she can't continue our therapy sessions
    it's like our safe space after things with our therapist will split thank you

    • @thectadclinic
      @thectadclinic  4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Noora Saetre Sorry to hear you therapy will be ending sooner than expected, Noora. I hope you re-establish something very soon.

  • @thecheesycats8073
    @thecheesycats8073 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great summary! I felt so liberated being able to tell my life partners and having that acceptance and emotional support not just for me but my other parts!

  • @mauilogic1679
    @mauilogic1679 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you.....on every level currently realized now and others that will arrive then!!! thank you for everything under the sun and moon

  • @chantelle1654
    @chantelle1654 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Please keep posting! We need as much credible, viable advice regarding DID as possible to dilute the misinformation and misrepresentation creating fashionable trends and toxicity within social media. So tired of it....

    • @thectadclinic
      @thectadclinic  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you, Chantelle, we will!

  • @Lelegeia
    @Lelegeia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Great video (once again!). My partner knows, and some of my friends, but it's still a major leap to go from letting them know and explaining the disorder to the other parts/alters being comfortable interacting with them. My partner is the only one some of my parts feel comfortable coming out around.
    It would be interesting for you to explain more (perhaps in a future video) how you might be able to judge whether a family member or friend is trustworthy or not. I see a lot of posts in the DID community online wondering whether they should tell x member of their family, and while it is obviously up to them, some pointers may be useful for those who struggle to recognise red flags in relationships. It can be such a positive experience, opening up and being believed and accepted, but it can be equally crushing to open up and be disbelieved and devalued.

  • @amr598
    @amr598 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very helpful! All your videos are very informative!!!

  • @haileyreign971
    @haileyreign971 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Talked to my family about it maybe once or twice... And it has not come up again. We're a fairly covert system so it's not that much of a big deal to have them involved in our treatment. Each of us have a different level of connection to them ranging from "they're family & okay" to "they're here but I don't see them as family & they aren't safe". That makes conversations more challenging so we avoid them as much as possible.
    We have a handful of friends that know & are very supportive, but we prefer not to bother them about certain things neither.
    Thanks for the video!
    -Reign System 💜

  • @lana_blue
    @lana_blue ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really appreciate the emphasis on not having to tell people Why dissociation happens.
    * as in the specifics of why it developed initially. Thanks!

  • @autiejedi5857
    @autiejedi5857 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very helpful information! We have some support from a couple of people, but they live quite a distance away. We wish it were safe to share at home, but not at the moment. Thank you Dr. Mike!

  • @SomewhereOnTheFarm
    @SomewhereOnTheFarm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    watching this made me cry. really don't have the words to explain but wishing someone could understand and help take care of all the younger parts (it is exhausting)

  • @rebeccatanner5367
    @rebeccatanner5367 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I need to add my family really loves me but just are so uncomfortable with the whole idea. I haven’t been able to afford a official diagnosis. So I have very little help from different agencies.
    This is just a lonely existence.

  • @PlanetaryDID
    @PlanetaryDID 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    thank you so much for sharing this perspective; it really meant a lot to us (we actually cried a lot watching this, haha). we've told our immediate family, and they're very loving and supportive and have made a lot of progress in their acceptance of our disorder (and we're so thankful and proud of them for that). but things are still so hard because there's still a good deal of uncomfortable/awkward feelings around it (partially from lack of knowledge, i think), and we need more help with daily life etc. than we've been getting, but have been too afraid/embarrassed to be open and ask for it. this was so encouraging and we know it'll be helpful for them to hear it from a professional and not just us/our opinions. we appreciate what you're doing so much, and can't wait to see the further mentioned videos on this topic for more advice moving forward. thank you again. ♥

  • @moon5145
    @moon5145 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Your channel is helping me so much.
    I've learned so much that has been very useful in understanding myself and the reasons why I move through the world the way I do.
    I've found your videos helpful to send to people who I am opening up to about DID, it gives them a positive clinical resource to learn from and it helps to reinforce what I've told them. Adding in that I'm going to therapy seems to help make it more real for people too.
    I would really, really love to see a video and have resources/ideas/strategies for parenting young children when you have DID(both covert and overt presentations).
    Thank you so much for the content you create, it is invaluable.

  • @sapphiregraver7906
    @sapphiregraver7906 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This all sounds good in an ideal world. Unfortunately we don't live in an ideal world. My biological mother, who I live with, knows about my DID but she is abusive. My sister and brother in law know and they are validating, but there is no way any of us want any of our family or friends to come to therapy with me. I live in a highly toxic and volatile situation and it is not safe that the woman I live with knows about us.

  • @totalcontrol4205
    @totalcontrol4205 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I've never told anyone but therapists. I'm lucky that it's the covert kind, and I am a control freak. I have thought about telling immediate family but I can't handle the thought of hurting or freaking them out and of course, they will feel the need to deal differently with me...like I am fragile or crazy. I also don't like the feel of losing control; if I know that my family knows, then I might relax the control I have or the others might make a push to come out, then my symptoms will worsen. I'm really tired though.

  • @bugbean5500
    @bugbean5500 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Your words are really giving me hope that safe people (besides trustworthy therapists) who you can talk to about what is going on do actually exist. Hopefully there will be someone like this too in my life one day. Thank you for your work and effort!

    • @thectadclinic
      @thectadclinic  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bug Bean you are most welcome, glad it helps!

  • @shaneseningen3258
    @shaneseningen3258 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    (Y) X 1000
    I subscribed, and plan to watch many more of your videos. This video has been very helpful. All things I kinda knew, but to hear a professional affirm them is so immensely validating, and right now validation is a huge need of mine to help push away so much of the isolation I feel. Thank you!

  • @mksparrow5398
    @mksparrow5398 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have opened up about my DID to my close friends, the only family member I told was my sister...which DID NOT GO WELL...I am terrified of telling any other family member, and so I have decided that as a grown woman, I don't need to tell them...they wouldn't care anyway, and I live 1000 miles away from them...and it would do more harm to me for them to know....it would do more harm for my "girls"....I am finally feeling safe, my family makes me feel unsafe...

  • @annamolly1261
    @annamolly1261 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Super useful and helpful advice.
    Also thanks for putting that caveat at the top too.

  • @333Eriana
    @333Eriana 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow - this made me cry -you are so nice. I'm on my own since my doctor died -but you've helped me remember important things - i'm thinking i should get a chalk board of 'fun things we need' schedule. Since Covid restrictions i haven't gone to doctor appointments because they won't let my husband in with me - and i seriously never remember most of an appointment.

    • @thectadclinic
      @thectadclinic  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! And I think the chalk board sounds like a great idea. Hopefully you can still get helped with your appointments.

  • @Maremacbmf
    @Maremacbmf 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks again Dr Mike!!

  • @20Unbelievable06
    @20Unbelievable06 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great video as always, Mike! Thank you!

  • @ravencentral854
    @ravencentral854 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Dr Mike it was very helpful.

  • @williamalexander7481
    @williamalexander7481 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you.

  • @NeverlandSystemPixie
    @NeverlandSystemPixie 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    THANK YOU for this kind video, some solid sound advice and/or thought-provoking content- with rational and clinical thought behind it.
    Thank you so much! This does a LOT to dispel misconceptions and misunderstandings!

  • @berritandersen288
    @berritandersen288 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very helpful!

  • @ennasnickernoodle8433
    @ennasnickernoodle8433 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for this video! This really helped me understand things. Also could you make a video about the difference between DID/OSDD and BPD? And the markers that indicate the two apart. Thanks once again for all that you're doing. Have a lovely day.

  • @Rat_Queen86
    @Rat_Queen86 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In my experience, people don’t know how to react.
    They are just like ‘oh, ok.’ And that’s it. I’ve only had 2 people ask questions.
    So, to me, it hasn’t gone well.

  • @featherslettersandseeds414
    @featherslettersandseeds414 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Can you discuss polyfragmented systems?

    • @thectadclinic
      @thectadclinic  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Whispofagarden I don’t really work in the ‘one or other’ type of DID. Just work with what is there, what is important and needed.

    • @featherslettersandseeds414
      @featherslettersandseeds414 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thectadclinic thank you for answering. Another question that I think clarifies my previous question...in many videos you talk as if there is one frequently present alter. My system does not have this, and we were wondering if that was due to being polyfragmented or what causes that particular conundrum?

    • @ArtyAntics
      @ArtyAntics 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Whispofagarden I used to be like that before I asked inside and found a part that kept track of the body and one that kept track of timelines and they helped me start functioning again. Head space connections is a good channel for polyfragmented DID, I’ve seen a few of their videos and they seem pretty accurate so far based on what I have read/experienced.

  • @cirrusfloccus6080
    @cirrusfloccus6080 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm excited about the 'bringing up DID to children' video. I never wanted to meet my boyfriends family because I felt really scared of suddenly being really different (before the diagnosis), but now I really wanna get to know them. But! he has a six year old sister and I'm really not sure about how I should explain DID to her. Like, I have a few ideas, but none of them feel entirely right.

  • @kandie3127
    @kandie3127 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, I had no idea that I need to hear something like that from my closest loved ones but the way my chakras & rest of my energy/metaphysical part so happy & nourished. Wow. You're the only person I've come across in this field that has made me think that I could maybe potentially be able to trust you & finally get the help I desperately need, too bad you're most likely nowhere near my location. Maybe a tele thing, I'll look for an email or something.
    I'm over here bawling and laughing a little bc it's just the way things go for me in life. It's that cruel ironic humor of life.
    I have never been able to open up to any therapist or anyone else besides my boyfriend of 10 years this year. Which is why I think I've finally been able to even look at all this (it's such a tangled mess with so much shit in it😖 I have been doing my utmost best to heal for so very long it's so exhausting. I remember being very small & thinking/feeling how I just wished I could be a wise old lady already who's done been through the hell & gained strength and wisdom. Who is doing good, is loved & happy. I might have been about 3.
    When I was around 10/11 one of my parents' friends would tell my mom that "it's like she's an old lady trapped in a little girl's body".
    I always just thought of it like I'm an old soul. I don't think he said it when I was around, idk but I only know of this bc I remember my mom telling me he said that. There's been so many things like that & other things that I always thought of as my own little life mysteries. I thought all the different weird/strange/inexplicable pieces went to/made separate puzzles & have been trying to place them together for a good 2 decades at least but have never really been able to correctly finish any. I thought I did a couple but the full picture didn't actually make sense at all & the pieces only fit bc I forced some.
    It occurred to me about maybe 3ish years ago that I could very possibly have D.I.D but the 2-3 times I'd start researching into it all over the last few years has been like this:
    if I had a mysterious box in my house and I knew I needed to do something about the contents, that it would help me alot but every time I would approach it, this overwhelming intuitive feeling of back away don't touch took over so I'd re bury it. I'd be thinking about it again maybe the next year & decide I need to just get the guts to open it to at least look. Then I can maybe plan for how to handle the contents. I'd get right up to it, hands reaching to open it & that NONONONO feeling hit again so back in the hole it went, out of sight and mind so I could forget about it & continue to delude myself that it wasn't a big deal.
    3rd try I started opening it & just freaked out & ran away screaming. All figuratively speaking of course.
    So it had been a year or so & idk why it came up again but it did but this time is different. Vastly different.
    I really need good help but everyone does & we don't always get everything we want or even need. Ya make do, you know?

  • @stini334
    @stini334 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very informative video as usual, Dr Lloyd! I would love a video about if a person with DID should be in contact with the person who is responsible for the trauma. Is that something advised by professionals or should it be avoided?
    Quick editing tip: If the text comes from the right side, it is easier to read for the viewer. In this video the last words of the sentence were the first I saw and that is not as easy to read as one has to wait for the whole sentence to appear to start reading.

    • @thectadclinic
      @thectadclinic  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Stini ha ha, yes, I noticed that! Not sure my IT skills can make the change, but I will try...

  • @michellewilkie4387
    @michellewilkie4387 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m at breaking point and don’t see a way outs scared as hell and don’t see a way out this is make me feel so so validated. I relate to all you say. What happens when you in parts that can’t do daily functions real baby parts

  • @meadow6760
    @meadow6760 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish I could be more open with my family honestly. I have a small friend group that's fully aware, as well as my partner and that's really nice. But I live with my family and they all know but we have talked about it very very little over the course of several years because I don't really feel comfortable with the discussion, I don't feel taken seriously or that I can trust they won't be upset. I'm not sure if others in my system has discussed things but I hope I can do it myself sooner rather than later.
    When I used to live with my friends we could all be open about who was fronting when and that was awesome. So I suppose that's a bit of a goal of mine here as well, maybe my family would be willing to treat different parts differently instead of all like me. Or being more understanding when we don't remember things that we did, or things that were said/requested.

    • @thectadclinic
      @thectadclinic  ปีที่แล้ว

      Sure, having trusted people around like that is so helpful.

  • @michellewilkie4387
    @michellewilkie4387 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I been non verbal for six months and there’s heaps parts hidden in this silence And no way out yet but pressure I’m inpatient

  • @KA-pr1xt
    @KA-pr1xt หลายเดือนก่อน

    I hardly believe it myself and at 43 years old just starting to open up to my therapist about the voices let alone that they have names... I don't see myself being able to tell anyone else not even my partner.

  • @treggs2009
    @treggs2009 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wish my children would let me know so I’m not so embarrassed that I’ve missed conversations or things they’ve said I’ve participated in and I haven’t

  • @abbiepancakeeater52
    @abbiepancakeeater52 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    no wonder i enjoy talking abt my alters. it makes them feel happy and recognized. i always worried it was a sign im just faking it. unfortunately, i came out to my toxic mom recently and everyone felt very unsafe. bad decision on my part. i knew how shed react, i just had this hope things would go different for once.

  • @SK-iu2pe
    @SK-iu2pe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My partner system has been SO GOOD for us, having close friends of the system has helped too.
    BUT we can't tell family cause theyre bible literalists though. Dont wanna find out whether they believe in exorcism or not thx heh.

  • @Amethyst_fairy81
    @Amethyst_fairy81 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just told a friend and her response was are we officially diagnosed. It was really triggering for us. As our counselor doesn't want us to focus on diagnosis to feel valid. I didn't expect it to go this way because at first they were very supportive so this felt like a betrayal. Now we are feeling shame again.

  • @DoggyDoula
    @DoggyDoula 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've started with a new therapist,shes fresh out of school. I won't work thru much with her but im hopeful she will be open to assisting where she can

    • @thectadclinic
      @thectadclinic  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good luck with your new therapist. We hope you get the support that you need.

    • @DoggyDoula
      @DoggyDoula 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thectadclinic unfortunately where we live there aren't any specialists except ones who've retired. We've cared for our own mental health in regards to this.. found things that helped and made our own way. But to actually sit down and work through it with a knowledgeable doctor, being already over 40, chances are it'll never happen as the demand is high for their time and it seems the few places I looked at only work with youth.

  • @NadineCMiller
    @NadineCMiller 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video with helpful information. I have a question. Is there a place/resource that a friend of someone with DID can access when needing advice/support? Without being in therapy myself, I don't have that support/resource when I'm needing help within the friendship. (Hoping this question makes sense!!)
    Thanks... Nadine in Canada

    • @thectadclinic
      @thectadclinic  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nadine Miller Hi Nadine, I have no idea about resources in Canada, though would recommend First Person Plural in the UK. Expert by Experience organisation, very friendly and welcoming.

  • @lilme7052
    @lilme7052 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I told my best friend I had child hood trauma but that I didn't want to talk about it cause it would bring up a lot of pain and ruin our day out but she was still miffed like I didn't trust her. I really don't think some of my family will believe me.

    • @thectadclinic
      @thectadclinic  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is really difficult. Hopefully one day it becomes possible for you.

  • @leighaston1
    @leighaston1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    okies
    after checking in with MultiplicityAndMe beautiful channel (which im subbed etc etc) and watching the interview there with MC Mike (your mighty self) i kinda binge watched this entire channel here (am really excited about this channel).. so this post may be a little all over the place .. apologies .. im different.
    Firstly little background ... childhood trauma ... got littles ... many alters ... prolly OSDD 1b .. not diagnosed ... dont need it ... nobody defines me and all mine but myself me ... we need no validity but ourselves ... label all mine at your peril lol, my all forms will burn and hammer those to the ground that compromise my system ... no judgements please, nobody puts me in a box. Recently aware and shuffling our system.
    Apologies ... protector kinda fronting .... its hard to be fully open in social media ... too many trolls that can compromise and/or trigger mine and i gotta be careful ... otherwise, if i get triggered, all hell breaks lose and stuff gets really wild lol ... and one of my protectors dont care about the consequences and will burn all things around them to the ground to infinity and beyond to protect my overall system, and my all forms trust her implicitly :) (irony is she is so soft loving kind affiliated with the light yet intergrated self harming persecutor born from the dark spiral)
    My "diamond eye" as i call them fronting now ... tis my overall system grounding alter.
    Am not in therapy ... am purely self exploring ... not on medication, tried it, but it numbed my emotions too much, and i really need to "feel" explore in order to process ... HATE medication, it closes the soul.
    dunno how you DID self challenged systems open yourselves to potential harm within social media ... its REALLY tricky to get your head and aura around it, specifically if you are a singleton or an NT (neurotypical)??!!! And social media can be infinitely unkind and hurting .. putting yourself out into real world is a HUGE self risk that only those with an entangled multiple trauma can understand .. if we get triggered we can fall into pieces easily where another doesnt even give a second thought to.
    My system mostly co host ... dont get black outs, if i do they are minimal almost instantaneous ... my system working towards internal harmony and complete transparent communication.
    Anyhows .... little all over the place ... apologies ... generally hide from all humanity so switchy atm.
    Firstly i gotta say if i refer to myself its NOT about me .. i simply refer to myself contextually ... all systems are unique different, and have individual needs .. so i speak of my own journey so as not to pass any labelling or judgement on others.
    heres what i wanna hear your thoughts on mike:
    1. where does Schizophrenia and OCD sit within the spectrum ... its forms, definitions and signs?
    2. Eating disorders huge ... its my achilles heel. Reasons ... work arounds greatly appreciated.
    3. Parenting as DID etc (gonna blanket this overall forms) ... also parenting a DID child.
    4. How you see the importance of creating a system map ... should it be done within therapy or outside individual?
    5. Whats your thoughts on alters that are thousands of years old and have memories, life experiences, of many many many lifetimes over thousands of years?
    6. Are you available for therapy sessions .. if so, how can anyone organise this?
    7. Are you training professional therapists in DID etc etc if not you should be
    8. Whats your thoughts on couples and partners therapy ... to build understanding and trust openess between couples with one/both/either DID?
    9. Are you doing any group meets ... so lots of us can get together ... meet up .. find support/partner systems .. its all about talking about it in a safe environment ... communication ... safety everything ... sometimes its hard to even leave the safety of our rooms our houses and walk the world.
    10. you got live streams planned ... for Q and A .. with collaborations with MultiplicityAndMe and others for instance ... ?
    11. thoughts on our inner worlds, meaning, construction, significance etc etc
    12. whats your thoughts and goals of "recovery" ... what is your goal that defines recovery ... mighty word .. heavily contextual?
    Me personally i dont want to fully intergrate all my forms ... ive opened my soul in all forms far beyond the average .. this is extreme power of the mind (though seperates us from most of society which is a challenge within itself and another thread), i infinaiely self reflect and seek to create the very best of myself from my own self experiences ... i am morally ethically self aware of all around me ... on many levels .... more than most will ever ever contemplate. From all bad there is always good ... can illustrate multiple forms of this stretched over time if need, but this is not that place atm ... and we all know time is purely contextual bound to ourselves and our infinite lives.
    Our form is NOT bad ... our souls are open and far far far beyond.
    I dont wanna be a singleton an NT ... my goal is complete communication within my system with all my alters ... we are beautiful we shine wild though few shall ever truly "see" ... my persecutors can be a little wild ... and my protectors will front and ravage any individual that seeks to unravel mine ... but i LOVE all my auras ... they protect me, balance me, keep me and my whole system safe .... is my grounding, my self belief, my golden thread attached to the overall pattern ... why would i negate all that self worth in order to conform to expected society ... nahhhh .. no thanks ..
    so what is "recovery"? Dont like that word ... tips head to side eyes shining bright and dangerous like the very end of the world cascaded in fire.
    Oooops apologise ... got one hell of a mighty protector
    13. whats your goal mike ... whats your path ... whats your need ... what you wanna achieve ...
    side note .. something "DID and me" said was really quite profound .. they tiny channel but id suggest checking em out and subscribe ... subscription to a channel costs us nothing yet bounces em supports em (am non affiliated ) ... they said "the only way out is to go through" ... mighty words indeed imho ... its the path to self healing .... hammers staff to the ground connecting sky, oceans, air, fire, go through not around not back .. is the way .. go through ... aint easy ...
    After the context of going through is fully understood, only only then are we ready to specifically "choose" to go around ... its not easy ... but this is the path .... hmmmm ... a little like being scared of spiders he he ... like one of your vids mc mike ;)
    Most importantly we are ourselves .. we are on a very special journey as "different" ... focus on self love self grounding ... we define ourselves ... only person in any place to define or judge us is ... ourselves.
    he he ... cant remember what was saying or my train of thought ... got distracted by a cool breeze and rain drops cascading hammering my window.
    i gotta say to any proffesional therapists .. therapy room should be consistent solid grounding familiar imho ... you may have no idea how hard it is for us to even leave the house ... gotta create a complete safe familiar constant environment, so if we switch its familiar .... our system safety is priority.
    ughhhhh ... now completely cascading no idea.

    • @leighaston1
      @leighaston1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      shoot apologies ... wrote a book :/

    • @thectadclinic
      @thectadclinic  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Leigh Aston Thank you for all of this, though far too much for me to make any useful answers here! Hope you keep enjoying and supporting the channel...

    • @leighaston1
      @leighaston1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thectadclinic totally understand ... wasnt expecting answers here .. just thoughts you may want to address in future vids ...

  • @Maremacbmf
    @Maremacbmf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How is it determined that some one might benefit from psych hospitalization? The health system there is VERY different. Here we'd have the option of voluntary committment. All we have to say is that we want to hurt ourselves! But that is viewed to be last resort.
    Since you work within hospital settings (- think we heard that..) what brings someone to hospitalization? What are the goals? When is someone released? Under what support ? Curious about all of it.

    • @thectadclinic
      @thectadclinic  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for the question. Generally under two conditions: 1) to maintain personal health and security (i.e. to prevent self-harm/suicide) and 2) under a Section of the Mental Health Act. The benefits would be about saving a life & assisting with stabilising a mental health condition in acute crisis, but whether of therapeutic benefit is for debate, depending on what resources the ward have. (Some people are also admitted to begin medication that requires monitoring).

  • @michellebogenschutz9544
    @michellebogenschutz9544 ปีที่แล้ว

    If I had a brain scan to show I know my family would understand my diagnosis better. Why aren't FMRI's more accessible? I know I'll never get one here in the US.

  • @DjNexus69
    @DjNexus69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What happens when you have no friends and family?

  • @kellyschroeder2210
    @kellyschroeder2210 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What do you say about this process starting in the womb ??? Been struggling with this …. and believe that’s where it started for me but didn’t end …..? Thanks

  • @ouamaiahtra6722
    @ouamaiahtra6722 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Someone I know in high school just came out as a system and I wonder how does the system maintain the task of learning in school? Does one alter learn the academic lessons and complete the assignments and tests? What happens if the alter who goes to school isn’t hosting? This sounds like it would make it difficult for this person to get through school? What has been documented on this?

  • @rebeccatanner5367
    @rebeccatanner5367 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What if my family and friends are very uncomfortable when an alter comes forward. Some have even cut off communication with me. So I feel really alone.

  • @kellyschroeder2210
    @kellyschroeder2210 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don’t feel like people in my neck of the woods would ever get DID esp family you think is “danger zone”’and might have their own issues of D ……

  • @michellewilkie4387
    @michellewilkie4387 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How do you deal with baby pre verbal little part that don’t have words just body feelings and feelings emotions in your practice for me now there seems pressure to shut them down trying to force other alters to front but it doesn’t work like that we get scared freeze and they don’t want to see baby young parts they don’t want to acknowledge them if they come out and let them be free to be heard play sit floor etc and this is really making me us a lot us inside scared upset lost sad and even more stuck

  • @allisontork
    @allisontork ปีที่แล้ว

    What if you want to be one and not many?

  • @michellewilkie4387
    @michellewilkie4387 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are s great therapist do you do psychotherapy

    • @thectadclinic
      @thectadclinic  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes we do. Feel free to contact us through the enquiries email and we can provide you with details

    • @michellewilkie4387
      @michellewilkie4387 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I live in New Zealand

  • @michellewilkie4387
    @michellewilkie4387 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How long with severe DID does it take to heal

  • @susancharles4173
    @susancharles4173 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It would help if you could slow down… lots of triggers…

  • @psyskeptic9979
    @psyskeptic9979 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolute pseudoscience.

    • @faithwalker5196
      @faithwalker5196 ปีที่แล้ว

      Unless you live with it. Then you know it’s real.

    • @sr2291
      @sr2291 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stop being a know it all.

  • @carasachs4004
    @carasachs4004 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m only in contact with my brother, my mother and sister were my primary abusers and I’ve been NC with them since 2015. I told my brother and he said “I’ve never seen any evidence of that”. Of course he has (SOOOOOOO many times!!!) but he didn’t know it. Instead, he thinks that I’m being whiny, not taking responsibility, and all the other judgments. I see some evidence that he might have parts, but certainly not like me. I wish he would be more open to listening to me and learning. As a result of this, I have one ANP that tends to front when we’re with him, one that I think of as “my most adult self”. He really likes that part but doesn’t understand that there are other parts that are just as important. I’m fairly new to my formal diagnosis so I’m still figuring this all out.