Why do the New Combos Work? Definitive Update Side-by-Side Comparison

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  • @deskcombo
    @deskcombo  2 ปีที่แล้ว +169

    Thanks everyone for watching all the definitive update videos. Spent the last 7 days since the Necalli video getting additional footage, making a 26 minute mix of the Dan: Infinite Music track and doing this edit. Longest video I've ever made by far and, I'll be honest, it's much more fun making shorter videos, haha.
    I was working on a new music video and a couple of combo videos before the definitive update was released so I'm going to get back to them and hopefully get the first one of those out very soon.
    Thanks so much for watching!

    • @DestroyForX
      @DestroyForX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Man we thank you for all the hard work you go through for these videos. This is top tier quality content. No matter the game you will always be S+ tier my dude.

    • @Real-Name..Maqavoy
      @Real-Name..Maqavoy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Always a great pleasure seein your new Vids *Desk* ^^

    • @Kalulosu
      @Kalulosu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank YOU for all the cool stuff you show, you're the best desk

    • @moonwalk1017
      @moonwalk1017 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      :D

    • @XIIXunknownXIIX
      @XIIXunknownXIIX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Amazing & professional work as always, wish all games had a visual guide for patch notes and changes.

  • @Owl_Coup_Productions
    @Owl_Coup_Productions 2 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    When the teacher asks you to show your work

  • @DzNutz503
    @DzNutz503 2 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    It's crazy how the smallest changes can make such a huge difference and turn a mid teir character or moveset to top teir or vice versa

    • @Flokoli1
      @Flokoli1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      And people think balancing a fighting is easy task

    • @ixiahj
      @ixiahj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Its kind of strange that some of these changes weren't present from the start. Something as simple as allowing to cancel a move into v trigger (when it was not allowed before) is an example.

    • @fwef7445
      @fwef7445 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Flokoli1 SF5 is homogenised crap, it is literally the worst mainstream fighter going

    • @Flokoli1
      @Flokoli1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@fwef7445 people said the same at the time of 4 just like when 3 came out

  • @roojames
    @roojames 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I understand videos of this length are a hassle to make, but this is an order of magnitude more impressive than your already amazing stuff. Just incredible

  • @Dresfvae
    @Dresfvae 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    It’s amazing how the shift of development under a new Director and Producer honestly made Street Fighter V as fun as it should’ve been. I stopped playing this game and went back to USF4 because certain characters felt unbalanced or certain attacks shown here should’ve connected pre-patch and with the changes they added to the returning characters in Season 5 it makes me want to go back and gets me hope that Street Fighter 6 will be this grand SF I was hoping 5 would be considering the letter V made it seem like the game will be the biggest of all time only to become a disappointment for most of its life. Thanks a lot for the amount of work and dedication to these videos Desk and can’t wait to see the stuff you can pull off in 6

    • @fwef7445
      @fwef7445 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      nah, sf5 is still trash, this game has just turned into an anime fighter with silly long winded combos that go on forever. It's not a good game, vastly inferior to 2, 3 or 4. I really have zero confidence in 6 being any good, it'll probably just be a 5 reskin. SF used to be about the fundamentals and short and sweet combos, not anime fighter loops

    • @zhlfr5399
      @zhlfr5399 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fwef7445 exactly if I would like to do juggles then I would rather play Tekken

    • @raritythefabulous
      @raritythefabulous 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@fwef7445 Anime fighter? Tell me you don't know what you're talking about without telling me you don't know what you're talking about. 😂

  • @OhNoTheFace
    @OhNoTheFace 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Wow that is a definitive guide. Must have been a lot of work.
    Kudos and thank you

  • @MatiiTa0
    @MatiiTa0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    thank you so much for all the great videos.. and showing everything so detailed.

  • @Flokoli1
    @Flokoli1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    8:27 Damn they clearly added some "umph" to Sagat VT fireball
    That looks 🔥 af

  • @xRagingxDemonx
    @xRagingxDemonx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Almost feels like i'm watching an Alpha 2 combo showcase. I always hated just how many moves had low juggle potential.
    Since i don't actively play SfV a lot of the changes go over my head in normal combo videos as it all mostly looks the same, but i do appreciate and enjoy this level of detail in showcasing why or how these changes made such a difference. Hopefully this level of freedom is only improved upon in Capcops next fighting game's release.

    • @HMNNO
      @HMNNO 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It's because traditionally sf isn't a combo heavy game. It mainly focus on fundamentals and neutral. Sf4 is an oddity of the series with its long combos and people starting on sf4 have warped views of what the sf series should be.

    • @xRagingxDemonx
      @xRagingxDemonx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@HMNNO I mainly played the Alpha series growing up as i was mainly playing games like Halo... or Kung Fu Chaos growing up.
      A lot of moves had a decent juggle property then as well and you could also attack after landing supers. Characters had more options available to them as far as supers and nobody had Ex moves.
      Unless you used A-ISM and technically the 1bar supers could be deemed as Ex moves.
      Capcop is trying to bring in newer players, or simply more players overall, and a bit more freedom while rewarding players who master the core SF Fundamentals and game Mechanics will help that.
      I just simply find it weird that some players prefer to gatekeep others from enjoying a SF title simply because they don't master 1 frame links.

    • @HMNNO
      @HMNNO 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@xRagingxDemonx I grew up on Alpha especially sfa2 and yea I dunno which version of Alpha2 you play especially SFA2 because none of the Alpha series allow a lot of juggles except if you use Custom Combo or supers (which are ex moves in sfv).
      I think your nostalgia goggles are showing a bit. Go back to SFA2 and see how much you can juggle combo in a match with normals and let me know.
      "I just simply find it weird that some players prefer to gatekeep others from enjoying a SF title simply because they don't master 1 frame links."
      That's exactly what an SF4 09er sound like. Their first serious SF game. I played fairly competitively in the alpha series back in the day and no one cares or talks about 1f links freedom of combos especially coming from SF2 which isn't that important because neutral is far more important especially in the alpha series

    • @xRagingxDemonx
      @xRagingxDemonx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HMNNO I think i know what you're talking about. I didn't mean combos like you're playing marvel or something, but it wasn't limited to 1 attack after the opponent was launched into the air.
      I believe it is also specific to the GBA version of Alpha 3?? I think it's Alpha 3. I've downloaded a ROM since then and played it because i miss Dramatic Survival Mode.
      I always used Shin Akuma while AI was Evil Ryu. Hardest Difficulty. It's rough fighting the whole cast and near the end they can kill you in like 2 or 3 moves.
      The gatekeeping comment came from an FGC player when SFV was coming out. Not SF4. I played SF4 and was annoyed that Akuma literally had 2 versions of Raging Demon. It was completely stupid. It felt like Alpha 3 but every super was a Cinematic and you couldn't attack after a super, which you could in every previous title as far as i'm aware, even if it was only once.
      It has nothing to do with Nostalgia. Being able to hit once or twice after certain supers, and having more than one super per character is just a personal feature i enjoyed from those games.
      For the future of these games, they can very well keep 1 frame links and every other core SF Fundamental for high execution very dedicated players to give them higher damage outputs.
      I personally don't care if the future of capcom games rise or fall, as i've found my enjoyment in fighting games elsewhere, like DNF Duel. So if capcom succeeds or fails in bringing in new / old players is not of my concern, but if they create a product that has a bit more to offer, i'll buy it, otherwise i'll wait until modders take a stab at it and buy it then. Like Mysterious Mod with SFV

    • @HMNNO
      @HMNNO 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@xRagingxDemonx I'm not here to keep this argument/discussion going but yea I know what you mean it's not marvel or something but really how often do you juggle something after a poke? Like do you think all characters can juggle after everything? If you're using Shin Akuma, yea he's the exception, not the norm, since he's a boss character.
      SFA3 on the GBA is great. It have every character except ingrid. The last full feature SFA3 version is on the psp. Wish they just updated it with everything that the psp version have but updated resolution and animation frames.
      I do wish the SF series go back to it's alpha roots in the end. It would be cool to have multiple super again with different levels instead of having to max out the bar which after SF3 did unfortunately.

  • @malabloaw
    @malabloaw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    No Desk, we thank you! for all your hard work and dedication.

  • @ajp1282
    @ajp1282 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This was very engaging. From the music to the tutorials n mechanics.

  • @Apocalythpe
    @Apocalythpe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    These, by far, are my favorite breakdowns of patches! Keep up the great content!!

  • @ToruKurosawa
    @ToruKurosawa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great video.. loving the side by side comparisons

  • @f1r3hunt3rz5
    @f1r3hunt3rz5 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My man, you're a legend for putting out consistent bangers!

  • @UnlimitedRaikoh
    @UnlimitedRaikoh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love these longer form videos Desk and the way you break down the efficacy of the changes of the patch through visual comparison. Super informative as always

  • @JasonYJS_xoxo
    @JasonYJS_xoxo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I knew Rose would end up in your channel, because with all the buffs that make Rose perfect for the current game, I can see that testing out the new "Rose" would be all the rage for this update^^

  • @BlueEye096
    @BlueEye096 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Really well made and clear. Love it.

  • @emcythompson5571
    @emcythompson5571 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Man Capcom needs to be paying your ass bro😂You make any fighting game more enjoyable to play by showing people what you can do🤟🤟🔥

  • @gamerbee9984
    @gamerbee9984 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    great video homie

  • @MrFennmeista
    @MrFennmeista 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Mid super cancels and faster response times, as well as i.proved 'delay' makes for interesting mechanics. Might be a glimpse of what's to come

  • @AuntBibby
    @AuntBibby 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    wow, makin a 25 minute version of a song is impressive
    it sounded good!

  • @ThePrototype047
    @ThePrototype047 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Man the editing on this is so clean.

  • @Whienzarth
    @Whienzarth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    prob one of most important SFV videos out right now. Thanks Desk

  • @JinrohDFLL
    @JinrohDFLL 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great video. the side by side made the changes crystal clear, no more trawling through the patch notes.

  • @Lodgeitude
    @Lodgeitude 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm watching this an was like... this video had to take FOREVER to make. Salute to the hardwork. It's appreciated.

  • @thechap82
    @thechap82 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Zeku has a new st. LP loop in the corner. Could be used to extend combos.

  • @dwightlinenii950
    @dwightlinenii950 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well done sir! Amazing work per usual 👏🏾

  • @PomadaGaming
    @PomadaGaming 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh i just realized this is dan theme
    21:23 oh that’s kind of a game changer

  • @cordellriemer5177
    @cordellriemer5177 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    All of your new combos vids are amazing and I wish I could be as cool as you on fighting games

  • @PomadaGaming
    @PomadaGaming 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    15:32 oh,nice

  • @thepuppetmaster9284
    @thepuppetmaster9284 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That Dan Infinite mix is just *chef kiss 😘 . Thank you for all these great videos 🙇🏻‍♂️🙇🏻‍♂️

  • @chicken636
    @chicken636 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    When other youtubers release definitive videos,
    Desk: The Definitive Definitive Update

  • @HeeroAC195
    @HeeroAC195 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have three TH-cam subs set to blow my phone up when a new video goes up. Civvie11, Commander Sterling, and yourself. Thank you for the good times, my dude. You make this website better.

  • @PomadaGaming
    @PomadaGaming 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    19:11 niiice,before you could only get a dp afterwards on that combo

  • @BritishTeaFGC
    @BritishTeaFGC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Street Fighter V has changed quite a bit since season 1. I've watched your videos on SFV from day one and it's practically night and day!

    • @fwef7445
      @fwef7445 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      it went from trash to still trash

    • @BritishTeaFGC
      @BritishTeaFGC 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fwef7445 That's just like, your opinion, man.

  • @deaegm9201
    @deaegm9201 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's an amazing compilation, thanks man

  • @victordonaho
    @victordonaho 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    UNBELIEVABLE!

  • @NicaVadeR
    @NicaVadeR 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing video, thank you!

  • @darkdragon88
    @darkdragon88 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is so cool and extremely helpful

  • @曉p-p7t
    @曉p-p7t 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    If Urien still have invincibility on ex headbutt, seems like he can wake up doing it and combo into two more ex move for game broken wake up reversal damage

    • @christinhell
      @christinhell 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Nah, EX Headbutt's invincibility is gone.

    • @christinhell
      @christinhell 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Probably because of the situation you outlined.

  • @AlmostAwakened
    @AlmostAwakened 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    For Lucia, I think you mean the V-Skill rather than V-Trigger. Amazing video as always.

  • @HMNNO
    @HMNNO 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really great video, thanks for this

  • @easygoingdude9990
    @easygoingdude9990 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Omg this looks like so much work dude

  • @mjg50550
    @mjg50550 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At 2:30 combo how did you get guile to link standing hk from sonic boom I tried this over and over and after the boom the opponent always blocks the standing hk

  • @AlociJo
    @AlociJo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, Desk!

  • @ricardoredway
    @ricardoredway 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    THE MAN, THE LEGEND NAMED FROM FURNITURE. THE ONE AND ONLY DESK DOES IT AGAIN.

  • @odracircomix7359
    @odracircomix7359 ปีที่แล้ว

    DESK ALWAYS PUTTING IN THAT WORK FOR US!

  • @brandoncave-wynter6987
    @brandoncave-wynter6987 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    God bless this outstanding human

  • @PomadaGaming
    @PomadaGaming 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    11:04 oh that’s actually pretty sick

  • @Siepher83
    @Siepher83 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    🙏🙏🙏 Thank You desk!

  • @KitoBallard
    @KitoBallard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A lot of the changes was more "This should make sense" like the one's whiffing on foes that look like it should of hit.

  • @MyJackel13
    @MyJackel13 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Woah I love these new changes

  • @battlericky17
    @battlericky17 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I made blanka in elden ring 😂😂 i plan to upload a video or two soon. Also this is truly amazing, ive been waiting for this type of video for a proper breakdown. Im hyper casual for fighters so this helps when i buckle down and play for like a month or two straight

  • @85turtlestb
    @85turtlestb 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video fantastic research

  • @Adloquiem
    @Adloquiem 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your music is amazing. Keep at it!

  • @valtearalte0657
    @valtearalte0657 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i apreciate the video 👍🏼 when's the rest coming out?🙂

  • @JSHADEGAMES
    @JSHADEGAMES 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video man

  • @gmk2172
    @gmk2172 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you very professional

  • @kroberts88kr
    @kroberts88kr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Realised i just watched all of it waiting for anything on Ed or Vega and noticed it was time stamped (and nothing on either) =(

  • @PomadaGaming
    @PomadaGaming 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    20:32 oh that’s nice

  • @nahdontevenstart
    @nahdontevenstart 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    17:30 this literally doesn’t work for me they reset like pre patch i have no idea why

  • @jinkazama7587
    @jinkazama7587 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent.

  • @fRikimaru1974
    @fRikimaru1974 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Ok. Some characters have been nerfed in one move or two, but although Urien has lost initial invulnerability on his EX headbutt, juggle potential seems to be a nice trade.

  • @ju99yfresh
    @ju99yfresh 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Table is a magnificent artist!!!

  • @doboydo1514
    @doboydo1514 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks all

  • @munsense
    @munsense 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ngl I zoned out from the video and just enjoyed the music.

  • @nelson6144
    @nelson6144 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You make too much great combo content. We have to do something to improve your subscription

  • @OhNoTheFace
    @OhNoTheFace 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    heh, almost all these "higher juggle potential" just looks like attacks that should have hit before actually do, at least in the slow mo :P

  • @shimmiedtv9421
    @shimmiedtv9421 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant video but that soundtrack tho. Source please captain!

  • @moonwalk1017
    @moonwalk1017 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good job bro ;)

  • @PomadaGaming
    @PomadaGaming 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    3:08 oh really??? Damn,so now you need vs2

  • @Cowman715
    @Cowman715 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    nice

  • @PuffballPlayz
    @PuffballPlayz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What’s with that new Zangief pose? Is that just a new visual thing?

  • @コン-r2r
    @コン-r2r 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    さすがデスクさんや

  • @acminostgien3038
    @acminostgien3038 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is that the danfinite song

  • @TaoFrato
    @TaoFrato 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For some reason ex sphere for urien goes to fast to finish the combos

  • @namreh72
    @namreh72 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had to use old school term. Desk that was "hard" yo.... nice video

  • @hiphop402
    @hiphop402 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    *Waits patiently for Mika solo new combos video* ☺

  • @Yusukeleon
    @Yusukeleon 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So the gameplay time is shorten.

  • @BenaresMusic
    @BenaresMusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seth?

  • @Guitar-Dog
    @Guitar-Dog 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    No Oro?

  • @PomadaGaming
    @PomadaGaming 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oooh i like the sound of this. Ah you
    goin in trials i see

  • @douglazdc
    @douglazdc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Eita mudou muito mesmo .

  • @leifa888
    @leifa888 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Waiting on the zeku video bro...

  • @KWill7
    @KWill7 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice every hit now is juggle-able ... at last SFV looks like a KOF XIII

  • @dw061384
    @dw061384 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    But what about Nash?

  • @robertomeier8952
    @robertomeier8952 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    La saga SF se convirtió en mugen tan paulatinamente que no me di cuenta... Pero me encanta mugen

  • @TheAztecWarrior100
    @TheAztecWarrior100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is what Sfv should been.

  • @kumaSOevl
    @kumaSOevl 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Music is hype af

  • @coomcharger6105
    @coomcharger6105 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rose is so cool in this game

  • @Bodied
    @Bodied 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good stuff man! No Laura? She not get anything fancy I guess?

    • @TonyJenn
      @TonyJenn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The patch barely touched Laura from what I've heard

  • @kosmosatmostar3072
    @kosmosatmostar3072 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fang patch ?

  • @danhibiki3359
    @danhibiki3359 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    sweet

  • @SLOarang
    @SLOarang 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A 25 minutes video from DESK?!
    Let me take some popcorn and diet Coca-Cola... 😎

    • @fwef7445
      @fwef7445 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      dragged out by shit slowdown editing, this video could easily have been a few minutes long at best

  • @fRikimaru1974
    @fRikimaru1974 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hah! More crazy Blankas from now 😂

  • @xero18
    @xero18 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    No Laura, Dhalsim, or Juri?

  • @fRikimaru1974
    @fRikimaru1974 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    All that new juggles are fine but Luke's still OP.

  • @wydputin5140
    @wydputin5140 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So they were like
    Ight fuck it buff everyone

    • @GemmaBee14
      @GemmaBee14 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kolin, Cammy and Urien and probably Karin were nerfed overall.

  • @HolligaMan
    @HolligaMan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did claw got anything interesting?

  • @ProfessorLester
    @ProfessorLester 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    QUALITY