This won't hold for all ENFPs, but definitely a trend that I think can be seen in ENFPs is their ability and drive to inspire. I think there is so often this picture of an ENFP that goes through life just trying to collect experiences for themselves. But Heidi really demonstrates the capability of the ENFP to see the possibilities of people and help them reach something greater. This is an ability so often given to the ENFJ, who is masterful in communication to motivate. But the ENFP just knows how to connect with someone in such a way that inspires them to grow, and they will get in the middle of the process I think an interesting distinction between you two that you helped illuminate, Joyce. The INFJ is tuned into the information of people around them, their energy, their feelings, and they work with That, as if the person is fluid and changing, because what is seen is their thoughts and feelings. The ENFP seems to view a person more as a whole, see their "person", and so they are more interested in what that person is and can become, not as much how they are thinking and feeling. The ENFP needs to stop being painted as this personality striving to just "be me and free", but someone who likes to understand possibilities of people and has the capacity to precisely inspire them to become more than they were the day before.
My favourite thing about Joyce is how she's bringing all these different and interesting perspectives into one place with these interviews. She's doing a great service to the MBTI community and I really appreciate these long and rich interviews. I love the variety within each type that I get to witness and experience. It's helping me in my personal quest of trying to understand the cognitive functions so I can understand myself and others better. Thank you Joyce (:
I'm so glad these YT videos are furthering your understanding of the cognitive functions! That's all I could wish for. 🙂 Thanks for letting me know the impact I have had on you. It means the world to me, @Prometheus Raisin!!
Truly a joy to watch! I love how Joyce is PP, meaning perceptive and precise! And she is speaking her own truth and its warming and helping heidi realise and understand feelings and emotions she couldnt put words to, this was so heart warming to watch, much love ❤❤
Gahhhh Heidi is the most relatable personality I've ever come across in my whole life! As an ENFP 8w7 tritype 862/863, I can relate to the things she says like 90% of the times, which is the most I've ever felt relatable to someone! Thank you for conducting these fascinating interviews! It feels so good to feel understood for once.
ENFPs are truly amazing people, my personal favorite of all the types. Aren't they everyone's favorite type? I mean, what's not to love?? :) My daughter is a college aged ENFP, and while she provides me far more stress than I was anticipating trying to keep up with her, lol, she is also an incredible source of energy, compassion, and joy in our home. I was so fortunate to have two incredible cousins to grow up alongside with who are ENFPs. Such close friends and cousins...INFP/ENFP bonds among family are so strong, was so fortunate. Anyhow, had to leave my .02 while thoroughly enjoying the first few minutes of this interview with Heidi. Already a dandy. :)
Haha I love ENFPs too, so I feel you there! Nice to hear about the strong NFP bonds in your family. Hope you like the rest of the interview, INFP Voice :)
My one of my best friend's daughter is an ENFP, and watching her grow into a young adult has been a privilege. I've been amazed by her logic and halarious statements, and both her and her sister(INFP)'s creativity...She is just so funny, I find myself always laughing. I need to find an ENFP friend.(ISFP)
Just discovered your channel and loving it :-) Also, I love ENFP's. They have such great optimistic energy, infinite ideas and exceptionally good taste.
I have only watched 2 minutes of this, but Joyce you are so adorable. And it's scary how Heidi is saying the same things that I've said in the past haha. Heidi also acts a lot like an ENFP girl I met last year. I agree with what she said about being random, I don't think that I'm random but I understand how others might think that I am sometimes, it makes perfect sense to me though and things that I say are usually connected to something else in some way which may seem complicated for someone else but it does make sense XD My mother (an INTJ) likes to say that I always have different phases with something that I'm obsessed with and then move on to the next thing, well it's true but it makes sense why I'm so interested in that particular thing during that time and I gain a lot from that! I relate so much to the things she is saying here, like with the thing she said about feeling fed by information. It's so satisfying to understand the world around me, when I finally feel like I understand something, I get so incredibly happy by that, almost euphoric in a way actually. But then there's always new things to understand, and I move on to the next thing. I am really liking these long videos that you have Jocye, it's so interesting to hear all these people explain the way they are! (I've watched more then 2 minutes now and I keep writing something as I watch this haha...)
haha you're so sweet, Golden Phoenix. I'm happy you enjoy these long videos. :) yep exactly, how ENFPs are perceived by others doesn't always reflect the ENFP's internal experience. What may seem random to others, makes sense in the ENFPs mind. =]
Such a fun video to watch. I first saw you on Talking with Famous People months ago, and it's great to see you continue to expand your channel. Your insights really are priceless gems.
Oh you've watched my typing session with TwFP, you go really far back. Thank you so much, Empty Shell!! Your kind words make me feel appreciated and seen.
My favourite thing about Joyce is that she makes MBTI tangible in a beautiful way. I am tremendously grateful to her for bringing the MBTI community together, for organising and leading these talks and panels, and for her, indeed, beautiful and concise summaries that are wonderfully insightful and often pearls of wisdom! Also, I love her energy; so kind and pure! :)
Thanks beautiful enfp friends! Great video! I am restless to the point i drove to Florida by myself last year and told my family after i was driving. I do not have small children, so i just went.I learned a lot, i cried a lot, but i knew i needed to get away from it all and reflect. I didnt have a huge cash flow, i slept in my car at rest stops.😂😂😂 I would do it again! ☺❤🌷
What you say about your ENFP friend around 29:05 is something i resonate strongly with,as i remember feeling the same way once before. 1:04:00 or so ... wow! Wall of text is very common for me! Btw,crying is a sensitive subject for me,as i have to calm myselg or be calmed because of how nervous i have been and can be.In fact,it is part of the reason i am watching this right now.
I just had to pause the video and say that I 100% totally relate to when Heidi talks about childhood and asking so many questions, and one of my earlier memories I have of feelings/thoughts I have is abuot the way things were done that just did not make sense to me. I would be asking my parents many questions about the why's and I still have memories of the answers I was given and still not making sense. Gosh, I am remembering so many instances of me asking the adults in the extended family questions, and they would fob me off with silly answers, and at times also laughing at the frequency of my questioning. I learnt very early on I had to observe much better than ask multiple questions. I also learnt that many people were more concerned about behaving a certain way rather than dealing with probing questions and thoughts rather than behaving in a way that was 'freer'. And when the internet came about in my late teens, my mind began to sing!!! Finally a whole world of different opinions and ideas!
In relation to characters I think that the Anne from Green Gables is definately ENFP, I feel with her deep connection watching the Story on Netflix "Anne with an E".
54:43 Haha, that's so funny - I mentioned this in my previous comment yesterday - promise I had not yet gotten to this point in the interview! But yes, Heidi is correct here, parenting an ENFP is definitely a HANDFUL! Y'all are absolute wild horses!!
45:56 Pretty sure that's Shakespeare with an ENFP twist. 56:40 As an Ni dom, the Ne dom types kinda annoyed me when I was in school because they would always ask questions in order to logically process the information. I understood what was going on, I just found it irritating that they were taking up class time to verbalize. Now that I'm older and not in the education system I value it more, because it forces me to use my Te to rationalize my Ni intuitive leaps. 1:07:22 INTJ gets that all the time too. If someone can't give me a "why", that is better than my solution to a given problem or system I tend to just do things my way. 1:22:23 Yup. Optimized systems frequently appear sub-optimal until you have firm grasp on all the factors that the system has to address. One of my fun things to do is optimizing character builds for MMO's or D&D, or really any system adjacent to an area of interest.
it is good to attire that natural love of awareness as a child. the growth and understanding can be both a long loved parent as soon as one gets adopted by the system of knowledge and sometimes the well springs of wisdoms blessings
A Carl Jung quote to symbolize the Ni & Ne alchemy: "The meeting of two personalities is like the contact of two chemical substances: if there is any reaction, both are transformed."
Omg, I adore you both!😍 I am a fellow INFJ, and yet I relate to SO much of what Heidi is saying: thought experiments, visiting a hill, endless curiosity, contradictions galore, wanting to understand people, looking at things from multiple angles. Do you study 4 sides of the mind at all? I am very confident in my type as an INFJ, after studying for several years. However, I am coming to the conclusion that I am either (1) a very shadow focused INFJ, or (2) just integrating all 4 sides of my mind as I mature. (I just turned 42, by the way.) I started out life very in-the-box, but as I got older I started to question everything more, become more unconventional and reject the box.😜 I notice myself using my shadow functions more (Ne, Fi, Te, Si), although they tend to be more pessimistic and it takes more of my energy to do so. Do you ever notice this about yourself, Joyce? 🤔
Soulful. Buoyant. Explorational. Those are the 3 words that encapsulate most ENFPs I know.
- Coach B, ENTJ
This won't hold for all ENFPs, but definitely a trend that I think can be seen in ENFPs is their ability and drive to inspire. I think there is so often this picture of an ENFP that goes through life just trying to collect experiences for themselves. But Heidi really demonstrates the capability of the ENFP to see the possibilities of people and help them reach something greater. This is an ability so often given to the ENFJ, who is masterful in communication to motivate. But the ENFP just knows how to connect with someone in such a way that inspires them to grow, and they will get in the middle of the process
I think an interesting distinction between you two that you helped illuminate, Joyce. The INFJ is tuned into the information of people around them, their energy, their feelings, and they work with That, as if the person is fluid and changing, because what is seen is their thoughts and feelings.
The ENFP seems to view a person more as a whole, see their "person", and so they are more interested in what that person is and can become, not as much how they are thinking and feeling.
The ENFP needs to stop being painted as this personality striving to just "be me and free", but someone who likes to understand possibilities of people and has the capacity to precisely inspire them to become more than they were the day before.
Heidi makes my soul smile. ENFP magic...✨
Yes! Heidi left me spell bound with her brilliant explanations, it's charming and magical to hear ENFPs talk 🌟
My favourite thing about Joyce is how she's bringing all these different and interesting perspectives into one place with these interviews. She's doing a great service to the MBTI community and I really appreciate these long and rich interviews.
I love the variety within each type that I get to witness and experience. It's helping me in my personal quest of trying to understand the cognitive functions so I can understand myself and others better. Thank you Joyce (:
I'm so glad these YT videos are furthering your understanding of the cognitive functions! That's all I could wish for. 🙂 Thanks for letting me know the impact I have had on you. It means the world to me, @Prometheus Raisin!!
Truly a joy to watch! I love how Joyce is PP, meaning perceptive and precise! And she is speaking her own truth and its warming and helping heidi realise and understand feelings and emotions she couldnt put words to, this was so heart warming to watch, much love ❤❤
Gahhhh Heidi is the most relatable personality I've ever come across in my whole life! As an ENFP 8w7 tritype 862/863, I can relate to the things she says like 90% of the times, which is the most I've ever felt relatable to someone! Thank you for conducting these fascinating interviews! It feels so good to feel understood for once.
Oh wow! 90%! It is like you both occupy the same mind. I'm glad these interviews help you feel seen, Eunice. :)
ENFPs are truly amazing people, my personal favorite of all the types. Aren't they everyone's favorite type? I mean, what's not to love?? :) My daughter is a college aged ENFP, and while she provides me far more stress than I was anticipating trying to keep up with her, lol, she is also an incredible source of energy, compassion, and joy in our home. I was so fortunate to have two incredible cousins to grow up alongside with who are ENFPs. Such close friends and cousins...INFP/ENFP bonds among family are so strong, was so fortunate. Anyhow, had to leave my .02 while thoroughly enjoying the first few minutes of this interview with Heidi. Already a dandy. :)
Haha I love ENFPs too, so I feel you there! Nice to hear about the strong NFP bonds in your family. Hope you like the rest of the interview, INFP Voice :)
My one of my best friend's daughter is an ENFP, and watching her grow into a young adult has been a privilege. I've been amazed by her logic and halarious statements, and both her and her sister(INFP)'s creativity...She is just so funny, I find myself always laughing. I need to find an ENFP friend.(ISFP)
NFs are heaven on earth 🌍 💕
I cherish their hearts 😇
NFs make our hearts go round 💕
Just discovered your channel and loving it :-) Also, I love ENFP's. They have such great optimistic energy, infinite ideas and exceptionally good taste.
Welcome aboard! Nice to hear you're liking the channel :) yes I love that about ENFPs
I have only watched 2 minutes of this, but Joyce you are so adorable. And it's scary how Heidi is saying the same things that I've said in the past haha. Heidi also acts a lot like an ENFP girl I met last year. I agree with what she said about being random, I don't think that I'm random but I understand how others might think that I am sometimes, it makes perfect sense to me though and things that I say are usually connected to something else in some way which may seem complicated for someone else but it does make sense XD My mother (an INTJ) likes to say that I always have different phases with something that I'm obsessed with and then move on to the next thing, well it's true but it makes sense why I'm so interested in that particular thing during that time and I gain a lot from that! I relate so much to the things she is saying here, like with the thing she said about feeling fed by information. It's so satisfying to understand the world around me, when I finally feel like I understand something, I get so incredibly happy by that, almost euphoric in a way actually. But then there's always new things to understand, and I move on to the next thing. I am really liking these long videos that you have Jocye, it's so interesting to hear all these people explain the way they are! (I've watched more then 2 minutes now and I keep writing something as I watch this haha...)
haha you're so sweet, Golden Phoenix. I'm happy you enjoy these long videos. :) yep exactly, how ENFPs are perceived by others doesn't always reflect the ENFP's internal experience. What may seem random to others, makes sense in the ENFPs mind. =]
Yes! Ne belief in what could be at the expense of what is, the never-ending gift and curse.
I liked this conversation a lot! Felt like a a summer afternoon's conversation on lounge chairs.
Thank you; I love the visual imagery!
INFJ and ENFP, doesn't get sweeter than that, great video🥰
Such a fun video to watch. I first saw you on Talking with Famous People months ago, and it's great to see you continue to expand your channel. Your insights really are priceless gems.
Oh you've watched my typing session with TwFP, you go really far back. Thank you so much, Empty Shell!! Your kind words make me feel appreciated and seen.
My favourite thing about Joyce is that she makes MBTI tangible in a beautiful way. I am tremendously grateful to her for bringing the MBTI community together, for organising and leading these talks and panels, and for her, indeed, beautiful and concise summaries that are wonderfully insightful and often pearls of wisdom! Also, I love her energy; so kind and pure! :)
Are you a candy factory? because you are incredibly sweet!! Thank you so much for the kindness, @Tisa P.ublic! It easily made my day :)
@@JoyceMeng22 Awh, thank you so much!! :) I am so happy to have helped to make your day; that's really wonderful to hear!!
This is a really good ENFP video :)
I'm always amazed at how ENFPs describe themselves how others describe INFJs.
Joyce is so eloquent!
Thank you, Mallory!! :)
Thanks beautiful enfp friends! Great video! I am restless to the point i drove to Florida by myself last year and told my family after i was driving. I do not have small children, so i just went.I learned a lot, i cried a lot, but i knew i needed to get away from it all and reflect. I didnt have a huge cash flow, i slept in my car at rest stops.😂😂😂 I would do it again! ☺❤🌷
That is awesome! Thanks for sharing, Barbara. 💗
@@JoyceMeng22 ❤🌷
What you say about your ENFP friend around 29:05 is something i resonate strongly with,as i remember feeling the same way once before.
1:04:00 or so ... wow! Wall of text is very common for me! Btw,crying is a sensitive subject for me,as i have to calm myselg or be calmed because of how nervous i have been and can be.In fact,it is part of the reason i am watching this right now.
I just had to pause the video and say that I 100% totally relate to when Heidi talks about childhood and asking so many questions, and one of my earlier memories I have of feelings/thoughts I have is abuot the way things were done that just did not make sense to me. I would be asking my parents many questions about the why's and I still have memories of the answers I was given and still not making sense. Gosh, I am remembering so many instances of me asking the adults in the extended family questions, and they would fob me off with silly answers, and at times also laughing at the frequency of my questioning. I learnt very early on I had to observe much better than ask multiple questions. I also learnt that many people were more concerned about behaving a certain way rather than dealing with probing questions and thoughts rather than behaving in a way that was 'freer'.
And when the internet came about in my late teens, my mind began to sing!!! Finally a whole world of different opinions and ideas!
True if I ask too many questions I am told I am questioning people's authority and made to look bad and that's not at all what my intention is.
Ah that was refreshing to hear, especially the last 10mins on gaslighting
8:10 ENFP here but I do kinda plan 20 years ahead hahaha - though the plans might/will change when new info comes in
Intelligent and cutiepies at the same time.. How good is that!? :D
💗💗😃 aww I'm flattered, thank you for saying that @TheAwakenedINFJ.
I'm wondering if an ENFP can turn into an ENTP after dealing with so much crap from people? I think it's possible and that this has happened to me
I mean I can totally be happy go lucky and enthusiastic at times, but I have moments where I feel more exhausted or mellow due to energy levels haha.
In relation to characters I think that the Anne from Green Gables is definately ENFP, I feel with her deep connection watching the Story on Netflix "Anne with an E".
54:43 Haha, that's so funny - I mentioned this in my previous comment yesterday - promise I had not yet gotten to this point in the interview! But yes, Heidi is correct here, parenting an ENFP is definitely a HANDFUL! Y'all are absolute wild horses!!
45:56 Pretty sure that's Shakespeare with an ENFP twist.
56:40 As an Ni dom, the Ne dom types kinda annoyed me when I was in school because they would always ask questions in order to logically process the information. I understood what was going on, I just found it irritating that they were taking up class time to verbalize. Now that I'm older and not in the education system I value it more, because it forces me to use my Te to rationalize my Ni intuitive leaps.
1:07:22 INTJ gets that all the time too. If someone can't give me a "why", that is better than my solution to a given problem or system I tend to just do things my way.
1:22:23 Yup. Optimized systems frequently appear sub-optimal until you have firm grasp on all the factors that the system has to address. One of my fun things to do is optimizing character builds for MMO's or D&D, or really any system adjacent to an area of interest.
@Hello There I also like that show. It's very relaxing, almost ASMR at times.
it is good to attire that natural love of awareness as a child. the growth and understanding can be both a long loved parent as soon as one gets adopted by the system of knowledge and sometimes the well springs of wisdoms blessings
Great video! Could you share with me what jobs have worked for you? That you didn't go insane doing.
I agree Ne & Ni are alchemy 😍
A Carl Jung quote to symbolize the Ni & Ne alchemy: "The meeting of two personalities is like the contact of two chemical substances: if there is any reaction, both are transformed."
I love that!! 💗
Omg, I adore you both!😍 I am a fellow INFJ, and yet I relate to SO much of what Heidi is saying: thought experiments, visiting a hill, endless curiosity, contradictions galore, wanting to understand people, looking at things from multiple angles. Do you study 4 sides of the mind at all? I am very confident in my type as an INFJ, after studying for several years. However, I am coming to the conclusion that I am either (1) a very shadow focused INFJ, or (2) just integrating all 4 sides of my mind as I mature. (I just turned 42, by the way.)
I started out life very in-the-box, but as I got older I started to question everything more, become more unconventional and reject the box.😜 I notice myself using my shadow functions more (Ne, Fi, Te, Si), although they tend to be more pessimistic and it takes more of my energy to do so. Do you ever notice this about yourself, Joyce? 🤔
She just sees us😊😊😊
Me, an ENTP the entire time: "There's no way she doesn't have some devil's advocate in the inside."
Great Channel Joyce!
Thank you so much, Mickey!
Yikes yes I word vomit my husband everyday - it always comes out after dinner 🤔
Haha, the signature Ne brain vomit. 🙂