Here are the timestamps! :) 7:01 Type One 13:54 Type Two 29:07 Type Three 44:42 Type Four 59:30 Type Five 1:20:59 Type Six 1:46:00 Type Seven 2:07:26 Type Eight 2:34:09 Type Nine 2:55:43 Assertive, Withdrawn and Compliant Type Stances
the amount of diversity among a single MBTI type is astounding. for me as an ENFP, the honesty and supportiveness on display here is something i’ve always aspired to in friendship.
One can SEE and FEEL that Chloe is a 4w5, and Shan a 5w4. So utterly clear to me, intuitively! :D So nice to see my favorite type in 9 different "variations" of expression here. Bless
Thank you for making the true points/calling us out on how we ENFPs can be manipulative. The truth can hurt, but knowing the truth can save us much pain & hurt in relationships. I sooo needed to hear that! Thank you, Heidi! 💗💗
haha i knew we could be. i can see that in myself i observe people too much and analyze people because i like getting to know people. i could tell the information i gather can be dangerous hahaha
I am an ENFP Type 7 :) ..... Biggest challenge that I face is that I am stuck in a career that I HATE but am struggling with getting out of it because of my inability to focus and wanting to do EVERYTHING !!!
There seemed to be a theme here about "perceptions" (looking at every side). We enjoy constantly stepping outside of our "body shell", so to speak, and finding another person's perception highly interesting and intellectually stimulating. So much enjoyed watching/listening to u all speak!
This was really interesting, thank you. I'm a 9, and now I understand why I mistyped myself as an INFP until I began to look closely at cognitive functions, and recognized I'm actually an ENFP.
Yay ENFPs!! I see them as people unicorns 🦄 dropping poop rainbows 💩 🌈 of good cheer and Ne shenanigans everywhere they go while serving ice cream 🍦. That’s all - INFP Edit: Dang, there was a lot of depth in this segment. Glad to see a more vulnerable side to the different flavors of ENFP unicorns.
You know what, I just realized that Sara, 6w5 reminds me so much of an ENFP coworker I have. I knew there was something different about us, but like... she is almost exactly like Sara! ahhhh
I finally listened to the Sleeping at Last enneagram songs today. Wow. Such beautiful music and powerful lyricism. Thanks for pointing me in that direction here. I related to many of the songs, but 7 was the one that drew the tears of touching my heart's longing. All of it is just fantastic fantastic stuff.
I feel for Shan. She was forced to suppress her Fi to satisfy her parents and her Fe critic. In order to suppress it, she had to dissociate. She basically has been dealing with life long trauma of rejecting herself. Makes me sad.
Awesome video!! I'm an ENFP 8w7 and was fascinated by how differently ENFP enneagram types perceive, feel, and act! And yet there was definitely mutual understanding, profound thoughts, and openness amongst all types of ENFP enneagrams! Thanks for making this video! Really enjoyed watching. Have watched it multiple times!
This is so fascinating seeing all the different versions next to each other 💖👏 I'm also 3w4 ENFP and people find my Te directness quite confronting at times 😂 also have NFI who I am but when I find something I relate to i just BURY MYSELF Into it in quite an obsessive way until I'm no longer interested in that part of me anymore and I'm back to square one hustling again 😂 🥳
It's interesting because even as an ENFP 4w5, I actually have quite a developed Te(Thanks to my INTJ mom) and I find myself overwhelming people with my Te Assertiveness. I realised that after friend of mine stopped talking to me completely🤣 But my Te do help other friends of mine like INFJs. Sometimes when I feel like using Fi and sugar coating doesn't work anymore and they're wasting their time, I just slammed them with Te, and they would get shocked, but it's a harsh truth they can't deny. Even when my INFJ bestfriend was in depression, I had to constantly use a lil sugar coating, until I feel like it's not going through him, I start being direct and blunt. At that moment he finally stop his negativity and think straight. After making him realise it, I gave him just a lil sugar coat again to make him feel comfortable and supported. I'm just interchangeably using Fi-Te😅
8w7 here - 100% relate to what Heidi said: intense focussed energy, can't bear being understimulated, all or nothing, having to say what you think, ignoring small problems, working like mad when you realise you need to improve something. Argh. 😅
29:07 i can relate a lot of this! i'm an enfp 3w2 and my motto is 'being true to myself" so i'm always working to be the better version of me, and also thinking about that i've been through a lot but i can use my knowledge and experience to inspire others is something that truly motivates me to continue this path. this almost broke me in tears, i really love you! my heart feels so happy knowing that there are more people out there that are like me.
I love this type talk beginning intro music!! This was awesome but I do like it when things are a little more free form and with a big group like this, more type talk of mbti and less enneagram one-at-a-time talk because then it takes a while to get around to discussion.
Wow. Crying at 54:50 ENFP-T 4w2 I also scored high with 3 and 5 and 8 all very close. When I’m stressed or just have a lot going on I feel like 1. I love these videos. They are validating so much of the things I always criticize/shame myself for. There’s so much of this I want to explore and learn more about myself. I’m ALWAYS trying to make myself and my life and anything I can BETTER but sometimes I get down and feel lost and I’m thankful for content like this to help me come out of that!
Oh my god I related to every single thing Michelle said so much... I’ve always typed as a 9w1 but I never really looked into what that meant. But thanks to Michelle i now know that is definitely my type lol! The stressy over-rumination, and the shutting-down/retreating... The sloth/reclusive part is a direct response to overworking my brain. After ruminating so much I just need to be away from everyone and everything to self-care.
As a 3w4 I cannot express how life giving it was to realize I was an enfp. I was miss typed as a 1 and entj as well. I conformed my life to gain what the world defined as success; what my parents said was success. My entire life turned upside down when I turned inward because of a deep depression and rewrote what would be my definition of success. I literally do not live to shine bright in others eyes. I know who I am and refuse to live for climbing the socioeconomic ladder. Lots of family fights later and friendship changes and I am more myself and alive despite not choosing to climb the corporate ladder. My education will not secure me financially, but there is nothing else that could be more fulfilling than the path I have found.
That was absolutely beautiful. Thank you all or your time and vulnerability. I am just learning about enneagram and thought this would be a good way to figure out the nuances between them to help me pin things down. Also, I am an INFP, so there is alot of overlap in the thinking and communication style that I found super helpful. I used "enneaapp" to give me a starting place to go from. So far I am pinging out at type which I am getting the feeling is not "normal" for INFPs. But it is what it is. I wish you all the best. Thanks again.
i cried a lot watching this i felt understood 😭💖thank you so much joyce for your videos you are amazing 💖, i love how a good listener and accepting you are thank you for being you and also thank you enfps for being the way you are i am actually in tears😭💕 i am an enfp-t but still trying to figure out my enneagram type✌
Shan, too! So much like my experience. I love observing ENFP's ( INFJ's "shadow type"/functions ), so many insights and nuances/breadth to my already existing "concepts", especially the ENFP's with the same Enneagram type as me.
Another great panel, Joyce! Thank you for hosting this conversation - it was so insightful. Thank you, all, for sharing yourselves this way. It was beautiful. Hearing Caitlin's perspective was particularly interesting, seeing similarities and differences between her and myself with the 2w1 in common, but being different kinds of NFs. If you read this, Caitlin, I'm curious to know if you know your instinctual stack (maybe you mentioned it in the panel and I missed it). It was also very interesting to hear from Deb, as I'm married to a 3w4 ENFP. I had typed him as an ENTJ, also, until last year. I think the type 3 brings out the Te in a more prominent way in ENFPs. And, I think his having self-pres as his first instinct gives him more grounding in Si, and also more of a "J" feel. I'm thinking, him being a type 3 and growing up in a heavy ST household, he learned to value ST more than ENFPs may typically do so at his age, in order to succeed in that particular environment. It's a powerful combination. I think the valuing of Fi can help this version of type 3 to recognize the self- and others- deception earlier in life than many 3s do, and they may be more naturally equipped to get to know who they truly are on the inside, and bring the inside them and the outside presentation of themselves into alignment. It's so beautiful, seeing a 3 going through that growth process.
@Caitlin Hawekotte - MBTI and Strengths Coach hey Caitlin! I still question whether I have it right every time and again, but I think I'm So>Sx>Sp. Thanks for your response!
I relate to the 8 talk. I think that what we need help with is real vulnerability. We know how to rely on ourselves so well that relying on others feels alien to us. If we let 2s, they can help.
On the manipulative discussion toward the end - this is absolutely true. As an ENFP 8w3, I can be super manipulative whenever I want but usually choose not to. I think it’s bc we have the ability to read every angle. Whenever I’m doing it, I always feel like I’m doing it for the greater good or for some kind of justice. Complete rationalization 😂
You can be either 8w9 or 8w7. If you are type 8, your wing must be the number after 8 or the number before 8. 8w3 is never exist and would never exist.
I never related to someone so much as I did Chloe. She made me figure out I was an ENFP. That absorption of the Enneagram 4 masks what is typically stereotyped as ENFP typical behavior.
I think the part where you say 3 is part of Te Doms can be true in this case. Deb seems to me as an ENFP jumper. I can relate to the negative part where we don't really know who we are. I am still trying to find myself. These vdos help a lot.
As an ENFP and also Type 8w3 & 7 - I can so relate to Heidi & Deb. This was so eye opening wow. I’ve never felt so understood by people that don’t even know me 💕
I'm an ENFP 8w9 and I totally relate Heidi (well of course we are both 8s) but I felt the same way when I was reading about my 8 where I felt like it didn't make sense how I'm an ENFP and an 8 but the more I watched videos and did more research I was like oh... this is me...
Joyce, thank you for your channel. I've struggled with some cognitive dissonance surrounding MBTI, Enneagram, etc. Your channel, especially watching and listening type comparisons, has helped me better assimilate those perceived discrepancies.
Being an ENFP 6w5 .. I could totally relate with Sara. During crisis I look really calm and I get into a trance like state and enter in some kinda leader mode.. but after it's over I crash and burn with all the what ifs.
I tested as a 4 the need for individuality and authenticity along with artistry really describes what I feel makes my life meaningful. At the same time lots of the descriptions for type 4 is very depressing and negative which doesn't resonate with me and makes it look like our lifes are ment to look dreadful and I refuse to take this as a part of my identity :-D I feel different then most people and I'm totally fine with it. I wouldn't want it to be any different! I can still connect and dive into and explore the uniqueness of others. No need to be lonely. I'm just not willing to be a little wheel in the machine of the goals of someone else. You don't have get lost in others in order to be connected.
Damn, I am halfway through and just caught myself thinking how very wise everyone in this round is, beyond what I expect on first sight. And now it makes so much more sense that people tend to think I am many years younger then I am on first encounter but estimate many years older after we talked one on one - or if they meet me in a professional surrounding. I guess thats the childish ENFP energy that attracts people but make them underestimate us as well? Now i am curious about my enneagram, can not wait to find out - any hints for good sources on that?
Vulnerability is the lost SUPERPOWER in human civilisation and it opens a door to true connection, true understanding, more collaboration and so much beauty and creativity can be birthed from it. I salute all individuals courageous enough to bring this superpower to humanity because it can be very painful and it can be disregarded, abused and repelled by many others who have built walls and protection to evade it at all cost.
If you havnt already, can you do enneagram type 7 and all the mbtis you can find of that enneagram? So we can see what a 7 ISFJ looks like vs a 7 ENTJ and stuff like that? Or is that a dumb idea?
Okay. After deleting all my previous post, I concluded to keeping this simple. It is so amazing to know others are thinking like me too!! Just became a healthier version of myself about a year ago so it was very difficult to figure out my true type. With Sara 100% 🙌. I’m 6 w 7 tritype 649 sx/sp/so. So nice to have finally figured this out. And I absolutely became interested in personality types in order to relax a lot more around people and stop worrying about every interaction etc. But even after all this growth, it’s so strange to notice the nervous energy still kind of comes out when I interact with people. But I’ve been learning to accept myself as I am and realized it’s perfectly okay to have arguments with myself about things im figuring out! 🙊 It’s not a bad thing at all especially as they don’t stress me out anymore! (Usually lol)
As an ENFP type 5 I was looking forward to hearing Shan talk about her viewpoint. You all started very orderly, with the first three speakers saying their piece then the others comment, then moving on to the next number along - THEN you descended into chaos and I’m as confused as when I started watching. So not a very helpful video really but how VERY ENFP of y’all! 😂
39:36 this part is so interesting to think about through an intersectionnal lens. As a child of a Haitian immigrant growing up in a predominantly white school, I would use mirroring for my peer to accept me. I feel like this concept of mirroring is at the core of code-switching. A facade to better relate to other but also to protect oneself from being a social priya. It's so sad 😥. I wonder if any BIPOC struggles with this ?
ENFP 10 Conscious lover - No fear, all love. One that is able to live in love through all the inevitable pain of life. To embody divine existence. To love for loving’s sake. Love yourself first and foremost and be the best lover to everyone else.
Wow Joyce, on type 7, that puppy dog energy. lol. That's how I would describe my attraction to ENFPs, like awww look at the cute puppy. Can I keep it? INFJs it's like wow, that is a mind I would love to be around forever. My two favorite types.
Without the enneagram types, you guys manifest so differently as people. I was wondering if you’re able to identify other ENFPs out in the wild, when you encounter someone like Deb, with her strong Te. I’m an INTJ, and I feel like it’s a very distinct type, so it’s hard to mistake someone as being it, most of the time. Of course, there are other types that have similar fxns, so if they’ve developed their lower ones, then I might think that they’re possibly INTJ.
@mopoppins Ne recognizes Ne by how we/they respond to questions and/or how we/they tack onto answers. There's a pretty clear like recignizing like by about the 3rd iteration of questions. You just feel it & trust it in a manner that's encountered so infrequently, it's magic. Of course, all the usual caveats about how to properly type still apply. The above is more of an explanation of how it feels as an experience. HTH
Lmao i saw myself explaining like Aisha and the thing is my name with her almost same too. Im enfp seven too and u know i love it how she used all her body when talking.
I thought i was an Enneagram 6 until i have taken the Tritype personality test . I am tested as 486 - Truth Teller . I still have Enneagram 6 , but in the the 3rd spot in the Tritype . I lead with Enneagram 4 , Enneagram 8 , than Enneagram 6 .
this panel was just incredible! I am amazed by all the ENFP enneagram types ))) wanna be part of something like this, but the language barrier can cause some misunderstanding, probably ) sooo I wish I could speak english quite good for such kind of experience ))) actually I am ENFP 7w8 )) 7, 4 , 2 )
Cannot tell u how much I enjoyed watching this! 🥰💯 Michelle's comment brought tears too. Also wanted to snug her. Such beautiful people 😭😭😭💘. “Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.” -- Jesus
"Certified" is very Te driven statement, Jungian structure is based on Ti (because he's INTP), a person learns it and observes it (usually through Ne), then makes judgement with Ti/Fi. Te isn't really about his work. It will never be a tribe subject.
ENFP's are amazing at group conversation. I would've thought, because of Ne there might people talking over each other or one person talking too much. Not at all!
We enjoy constantly stepping outside of our "body shell", so to speak, and find another person's perception highly interesting and intellectually stimulating. We love to listen and love to learn!
ENFP 6w7, I've struggled a lot with accepting I am a 6 for a long time lol. I can go from social happy butterfly talking about banana bread 🍞 to hyper skeptical, assertive, direct, confrontational real quick 🤨. As if I'm a loaded gun ready to blast with 100 questions if you come in between the crossfire. I take feelings of betrayal seriously, It's my most hated value 2nd to putting on face (I wouldn't do well in Japan). I cut friends off as soon as that feeling of betrayal appears, if they dont value the friendship the way I do I will just block and ghost them without saying anything because I get so hurt by it. ENFP with 6 in general feels pretty polarizing to be honest 😅. I questioned if I was ISTJ many times because of this reason.
My apologies but as an INTP, I could not watch past ten minutes of this video. I tried several times but there was an overload of emotion and fuzzyness that I cannot compute and that make me feel odd. This is not a criticism of the fine guests. But it was too much of something weird and I had to get out / shut down. I can't proces nine ENFPs emoting at once! Is this a normal reaction for an INTP?
Yes it’s normal. You’d probably find Deb (type 3) Heidi (8) myself (5) a bit easier to listen to. We’re less emotional in comparison. Joyce added time stamps.
This is hilarious, I've done the same thing as they 6 except instead of planning for doom, it's long detailed list of all the things I would do if I won the lottery, b/c I'm a 7. :-)
Here are the timestamps! :)
7:01 Type One
13:54 Type Two
29:07 Type Three
44:42 Type Four
59:30 Type Five
1:20:59 Type Six
1:46:00 Type Seven
2:07:26 Type Eight
2:34:09 Type Nine
2:55:43 Assertive, Withdrawn and Compliant Type Stances
The enfps are such a diverse bunch, probably the most, Ne doesn't fall into a pattern despite being all about discovering and seeing patterns 😂
Great video Joyce!! Keep up the awesome work! :)
Thank you so much!
the amount of diversity among a single MBTI type is astounding. for me as an ENFP, the honesty and supportiveness on display here is something i’ve always aspired to in friendship.
Heidi is sooo right when you get enough enfps together its hard to stop the conversations
You know by first hand experience. 😂
One can SEE and FEEL that Chloe is a 4w5, and Shan a 5w4. So utterly clear to me, intuitively! :D So nice to see my favorite type in 9 different "variations" of expression here. Bless
Heidi's facial expression reacting to each type really suits well with enneagram type 8. 🤣
It's creepy af
Chloe’s body language was everything here
@@paisleyprincess7996 Yesss
@@z.e....3175 Hahha yeah it is cool! :D
yes agree
Heaven of every INTJ.
Lmao so cute
🤣🤣🤣🤣
I'm ENFP and I want to give you a hug!!!!
@@spannycat2 adorable.. ;))
100%, that's the only reason I'm here
Thank you for making the true points/calling us out on how we ENFPs can be manipulative. The truth can hurt, but knowing the truth can save us much pain & hurt in relationships. I sooo needed to hear that! Thank you, Heidi! 💗💗
haha i knew we could be. i can see that in myself i observe people too much and analyze people because i like getting to know people. i could tell the information i gather can be dangerous hahaha
I am an ENFP Type 7 :) ..... Biggest challenge that I face is that I am stuck in a career that I HATE but am struggling with getting out of it because of my inability to focus and wanting to do EVERYTHING !!!
Omg same type, same ennagram, same problem!! ❤️😂 Crazyyy
Same, for example I'm watching this video instead of contacting my Fi to find out what it wants (think it went on holiday a while back)
Same I’m afraid to be stuck
Same issue, want to start my own my business. I hate my day job, well i don’t feel connected to the team. Love my part time job. ENFP 2w3 ❤
There seemed to be a theme here about "perceptions" (looking at every side). We enjoy constantly stepping outside of our "body shell", so to speak, and finding another person's perception highly interesting and intellectually stimulating. So much enjoyed watching/listening to u all speak!
This was really interesting, thank you. I'm a 9, and now I understand why I mistyped myself as an INFP until I began to look closely at cognitive functions, and recognized I'm actually an ENFP.
ENFP fives, probably one of the most unusual combinations. Found this trying to understand my own type 💗 good to see another ENFP 5
Right?! ENFP 5 here too ❤
I think i might be a five but im not 100 percent.
im an enfp 5w4 :D
alot of people get 5 at tests so don't trust them very much, if that was the case
Yay ENFPs!! I see them as people unicorns 🦄 dropping poop rainbows 💩 🌈 of good cheer and Ne shenanigans everywhere they go while serving ice cream 🍦. That’s all - INFP
Edit: Dang, there was a lot of depth in this segment. Glad to see a more vulnerable side to the different flavors of ENFP unicorns.
Shout out to my fellow ENFP 9's.
You know what, I just realized that Sara, 6w5 reminds me so much of an ENFP coworker I have. I knew there was something different about us, but like... she is almost exactly like Sara! ahhhh
I finally listened to the Sleeping at Last enneagram songs today. Wow. Such beautiful music and powerful lyricism. Thanks for pointing me in that direction here. I related to many of the songs, but 7 was the one that drew the tears of touching my heart's longing. All of it is just fantastic fantastic stuff.
I feel for Shan. She was forced to suppress her Fi to satisfy her parents and her Fe critic. In order to suppress it, she had to dissociate. She basically has been dealing with life long trauma of rejecting herself. Makes me sad.
@@Skilough INFJ
Awesome video!! I'm an ENFP 8w7 and was fascinated by how differently ENFP enneagram types perceive, feel, and act! And yet there was definitely mutual understanding, profound thoughts, and openness amongst all types of ENFP enneagrams! Thanks for making this video! Really enjoyed watching. Have watched it multiple times!
FINALLY another ENFP 8w7. Everyone keeps telling me it's impossible but it's there.
@@sapokee2830 Hell yeah! We're def out there 🍻
This is so fascinating seeing all the different versions next to each other 💖👏 I'm also 3w4 ENFP and people find my Te directness quite confronting at times 😂 also have NFI who I am but when I find something I relate to i just BURY MYSELF Into it in quite an obsessive way until I'm no longer interested in that part of me anymore and I'm back to square one hustling again 😂 🥳
It's interesting because even as an ENFP 4w5, I actually have quite a developed Te(Thanks to my INTJ mom) and I find myself overwhelming people with my Te Assertiveness. I realised that after friend of mine stopped talking to me completely🤣 But my Te do help other friends of mine like INFJs. Sometimes when I feel like using Fi and sugar coating doesn't work anymore and they're wasting their time, I just slammed them with Te, and they would get shocked, but it's a harsh truth they can't deny. Even when my INFJ bestfriend was in depression, I had to constantly use a lil sugar coating, until I feel like it's not going through him, I start being direct and blunt. At that moment he finally stop his negativity and think straight. After making him realise it, I gave him just a lil sugar coat again to make him feel comfortable and supported. I'm just interchangeably using Fi-Te😅
8w7 here - 100% relate to what Heidi said: intense focussed energy, can't bear being understimulated, all or nothing, having to say what you think, ignoring small problems, working like mad when you realise you need to improve something. Argh. 😅
2:09:58 An 8 once told me “Nobody makes you do anything” which struck quite an epiphany for me as a 4 used to playing the victim.
29:07 i can relate a lot of this! i'm an enfp 3w2 and my motto is 'being true to myself" so i'm always working to be the better version of me, and also thinking about that i've been through a lot but i can use my knowledge and experience to inspire others is something that truly motivates me to continue this path. this almost broke me in tears, i really love you! my heart feels so happy knowing that there are more people out there that are like me.
What an Fi masterclass! Never heard such emotional awareness and vulnerability. Truly inspiring and beautiful people - vice, virtue and all
Dang Heidi you're intense, you described type 8 well. I love it.
I love this type talk beginning intro music!! This was awesome but I do like it when things are a little more free form and with a big group like this, more type talk of mbti and less enneagram one-at-a-time talk because then it takes a while to get around to discussion.
Wow!! All I can say is WOW!! As an ENFP 7w6 it hit all the FEELS!! I learned SO MUCH from myself listening to you guys!! Thank you so much for this!!
Wow. Crying at 54:50
ENFP-T 4w2 I also scored high with 3 and 5 and 8 all very close. When I’m stressed or just have a lot going on I feel like 1. I love these videos. They are validating so much of the things I always criticize/shame myself for. There’s so much of this I want to explore and learn more about myself. I’m ALWAYS trying to make myself and my life and anything I can BETTER but sometimes I get down and feel lost and I’m thankful for content like this to help me come out of that!
ENFP here!!! LOOOOVEEEEEEEE YOU GUYYYSSSS :))))
Other ENFPs. We Looooove you too!!💗💗
As an ENFP fellow Enneagram type, thank you so much for this immersive conversation that hit my heart's home💖!
I loved every minute of this. Thank you so much for making it.
Oh my god I related to every single thing Michelle said so much... I’ve always typed as a 9w1 but I never really looked into what that meant. But thanks to Michelle i now know that is definitely my type lol! The stressy over-rumination, and the shutting-down/retreating... The sloth/reclusive part is a direct response to overworking my brain. After ruminating so much I just need to be away from everyone and everything to self-care.
As a 3w4 I cannot express how life giving it was to realize I was an enfp. I was miss typed as a 1 and entj as well. I conformed my life to gain what the world defined as success; what my parents said was success. My entire life turned upside down when I turned inward because of a deep depression and rewrote what would be my definition of success. I literally do not live to shine bright in others eyes. I know who I am and refuse to live for climbing the socioeconomic ladder. Lots of family fights later and friendship changes and I am more myself and alive despite not choosing to climb the corporate ladder. My education will not secure me financially, but there is nothing else that could be more fulfilling than the path I have found.
Sara, as a fellow ENFP 6w5, I feel absolutely called out. How dare you?!
That was absolutely beautiful. Thank you all or your time and vulnerability. I am just learning about enneagram and thought this would be a good way to figure out the nuances between them to help me pin things down. Also, I am an INFP, so there is alot of overlap in the thinking and communication style that I found super helpful. I used "enneaapp" to give me a starting place to go from. So far I am pinging out at type which I am getting the feeling is not "normal" for INFPs. But it is what it is. I wish you all the best. Thanks again.
i cried a lot watching this i felt understood 😭💖thank you so much joyce for your videos you are amazing 💖, i love how a good listener and accepting you are thank you for being you and also thank you enfps for being the way you are i am actually in tears😭💕 i am an enfp-t but still trying to figure out my enneagram type✌
I understand your pain. I am also an ENFP
@@nelsontello1470 hello fellow 💛
Shan, too! So much like my experience. I love observing ENFP's ( INFJ's "shadow type"/functions ), so many insights and nuances/breadth to my already existing "concepts", especially the ENFP's with the same Enneagram type as me.
Shan is wise! =)
1:17:00 and before getting to that. OMG, yes..
Another great panel, Joyce! Thank you for hosting this conversation - it was so insightful. Thank you, all, for sharing yourselves this way. It was beautiful.
Hearing Caitlin's perspective was particularly interesting, seeing similarities and differences between her and myself with the 2w1 in common, but being different kinds of NFs. If you read this, Caitlin, I'm curious to know if you know your instinctual stack (maybe you mentioned it in the panel and I missed it).
It was also very interesting to hear from Deb, as I'm married to a 3w4 ENFP. I had typed him as an ENTJ, also, until last year. I think the type 3 brings out the Te in a more prominent way in ENFPs. And, I think his having self-pres as his first instinct gives him more grounding in Si, and also more of a "J" feel. I'm thinking, him being a type 3 and growing up in a heavy ST household, he learned to value ST more than ENFPs may typically do so at his age, in order to succeed in that particular environment. It's a powerful combination. I think the valuing of Fi can help this version of type 3 to recognize the self- and others- deception earlier in life than many 3s do, and they may be more naturally equipped to get to know who they truly are on the inside, and bring the inside them and the outside presentation of themselves into alignment. It's so beautiful, seeing a 3 going through that growth process.
@Caitlin Hawekotte - MBTI and Strengths Coach hey Caitlin! I still question whether I have it right every time and again, but I think I'm So>Sx>Sp. Thanks for your response!
I relate to the 8 talk. I think that what we need help with is real vulnerability. We know how to rely on ourselves so well that relying on others feels alien to us. If we let 2s, they can help.
On the manipulative discussion toward the end - this is absolutely true. As an ENFP 8w3, I can be super manipulative whenever I want but usually choose not to. I think it’s bc we have the ability to read every angle. Whenever I’m doing it, I always feel like I’m doing it for the greater good or for some kind of justice. Complete rationalization 😂
You can’t be an 8w3 😭
Aww Jess, 8w3 isn't a thing...
You can be either 8w9 or 8w7. If you are type 8, your wing must be the number after 8 or the number before 8. 8w3 is never exist and would never exist.
I never related to someone so much as I did Chloe. She made me figure out I was an ENFP. That absorption of the Enneagram 4 masks what is typically stereotyped as ENFP typical behavior.
I think the part where you say 3 is part of Te Doms can be true in this case. Deb seems to me as an ENFP jumper. I can relate to the negative part where we don't really know who we are. I am still trying to find myself. These vdos help a lot.
Loved this. I’m an enfp 2 wing 3. Thanks for the convo!
You are so welcome! Glad you enjoyed it, @Kelli!!
As an ENFP and also Type 8w3 & 7 - I can so relate to Heidi & Deb. This was so eye opening wow. I’ve never felt so understood by people that don’t even know me 💕
2w1 is so 2w1 and it's ADORABLE 🥳
I'm an ENFP 8w9 and I totally relate Heidi (well of course we are both 8s) but I felt the same way when I was reading about my 8 where I felt like it didn't make sense how I'm an ENFP and an 8 but the more I watched videos and did more research I was like oh... this is me...
It must be an ENFP thing to make statements about yourself sound like questions! I do this too
Joyce, thank you for your channel. I've struggled with some cognitive dissonance surrounding MBTI, Enneagram, etc. Your channel, especially watching and listening type comparisons, has helped me better assimilate those perceived discrepancies.
Caitlin's smile is so beautiful.
She is stunningly beautiful
Being an ENFP 6w5 .. I could totally relate with Sara. During crisis I look really calm and I get into a trance like state and enter in some kinda leader mode.. but after it's over I crash and burn with all the what ifs.
I wonder if its possible to have all INFP Enneagram types in one video?
I haven't seen any INFP 3s or 8s yet 🤔
I tested as a 4 the need for individuality and authenticity along with artistry really describes what I feel makes my life meaningful. At the same time lots of the descriptions for type 4 is very depressing and negative which doesn't resonate with me and makes it look like our lifes are ment to look dreadful and I refuse to take this as a part of my identity :-D
I feel different then most people and I'm totally fine with it. I wouldn't want it to be any different! I can still connect and dive into and explore the uniqueness of others. No need to be lonely. I'm just not willing to be a little wheel in the machine of the goals of someone else. You don't have get lost in others in order to be connected.
Damn, I am halfway through and just caught myself thinking how very wise everyone in this round is, beyond what I expect on first sight. And now it makes so much more sense that people tend to think I am many years younger then I am on first encounter but estimate many years older after we talked one on one - or if they meet me in a professional surrounding. I guess thats the childish ENFP energy that attracts people but make them underestimate us as well? Now i am curious about my enneagram, can not wait to find out - any hints for good sources on that?
Vulnerability is the lost SUPERPOWER in human civilisation and it opens a door to true connection, true understanding, more collaboration and so much beauty and creativity can be birthed from it. I salute all individuals courageous enough to bring this superpower to humanity because it can be very painful and it can be disregarded, abused and repelled by many others who have built walls and protection to evade it at all cost.
If you havnt already, can you do enneagram type 7 and all the mbtis you can find of that enneagram? So we can see what a 7 ISFJ looks like vs a 7 ENTJ and stuff like that? Or is that a dumb idea?
I will cover that one day! It's a great idea, Isajay12.
How can one INFJ have conversation with 9 ENFPs at the same time!! 😱
ENFP - win-win (Flexing our diplomacy muscles 😆😍)!
Manipulation is a tool: It can be a good thing if its actually helping others. 🥰💝
I’m with Shan in this chat. Her expressions say it all
Wonderful chat! I’m an ENFP and this was AMAZING!
Okay. After deleting all my previous post, I concluded to keeping this simple. It is so amazing to know others are thinking like me too!! Just became a healthier version of myself about a year ago so it was very difficult to figure out my true type. With Sara 100% 🙌. I’m 6 w 7 tritype 649 sx/sp/so. So nice to have finally figured this out. And I absolutely became interested in personality types in order to relax a lot more around people and stop worrying about every interaction etc. But even after all this growth, it’s so strange to notice the nervous energy still kind of comes out when I interact with people. But I’ve been learning to accept myself as I am and realized it’s perfectly okay to have arguments with myself about things im figuring out! 🙊 It’s not a bad thing at all especially as they don’t stress me out anymore! (Usually lol)
As an ENFP type 5 I was looking forward to hearing Shan talk about her viewpoint. You all started very orderly, with the first three speakers saying their piece then the others comment, then moving on to the next number along - THEN you descended into chaos and I’m as confused as when I started watching. So not a very helpful video really but how VERY ENFP of y’all! 😂
I'm addicted to personality typing and love. :P
Very excited for this!
Denzel you contact is amazing! I keep watching the metacog/Ni video! So good. BTW your wife's voice is so beautiful & inspiring!!
I love all of these people! 💕 this was awesome.
39:36 this part is so interesting to think about through an intersectionnal lens. As a child of a Haitian immigrant growing up in a predominantly white school, I would use mirroring for my peer to accept me. I feel like this concept of mirroring is at the core of code-switching. A facade to better relate to other but also to protect oneself from being a social priya. It's so sad 😥. I wonder if any BIPOC struggles with this ?
ENFP 10 Conscious lover - No fear, all love.
One that is able to live in love through all the inevitable pain of life. To embody divine existence. To love for loving’s sake.
Love yourself first and foremost and be the best lover to everyone else.
Wow Joyce, on type 7, that puppy dog energy. lol. That's how I would describe my attraction to ENFPs, like awww look at the cute puppy. Can I keep it? INFJs it's like wow, that is a mind I would love to be around forever. My two favorite types.
what a sweet, sweet idea! Can I expect a similar video with other types (preferably ISFP or ISFJ)?
When I find all the enneagram types for those types, yes. :) Most ISFPs are 4s though, so it'll be difficult to find variation
@@JoyceMeng22 I think I might be ISFJ 4w5. I'm pretty sure about 4w5. But is it possible for an ISFJ to be 4?
Joyce “That’s not a way to type people”
Me also a 6 “That’s exactly how I type people, by voice and body movement”.
ENFP 8 wing 7: My intuition doesn’t hear passive-aggressive suggestions. Sail right under my radar.
Without the enneagram types, you guys manifest so differently as people. I was wondering if you’re able to identify other ENFPs out in the wild, when you encounter someone like Deb, with her strong Te.
I’m an INTJ, and I feel like it’s a very distinct type, so it’s hard to mistake someone as being it, most of the time. Of course, there are other types that have similar fxns, so if they’ve developed their lower ones, then I might think that they’re possibly INTJ.
@mopoppins
Ne recognizes Ne by how we/they respond to questions and/or how we/they tack onto answers. There's a pretty clear like recignizing like by about the 3rd iteration of questions. You just feel it & trust it in a manner that's encountered so infrequently, it's magic.
Of course, all the usual caveats about how to properly type still apply. The above is more of an explanation of how it feels as an experience.
HTH
Deb is ENFP jumper (Ne-Te-Fi-Si) objective personality
Lmao i saw myself explaining like Aisha and the thing is my name with her almost same too. Im enfp seven too and u know i love it how she used all her body when talking.
I thought i was an Enneagram 6 until i have taken the Tritype personality test . I am tested as 486 - Truth Teller . I still have Enneagram 6 , but in the the 3rd spot in the Tritype .
I lead with Enneagram 4 , Enneagram 8 , than Enneagram 6 .
this panel was just incredible! I am amazed by all the ENFP enneagram types ))) wanna be part of something like this, but the language barrier can cause some misunderstanding, probably ) sooo I wish I could speak english quite good for such kind of experience ))) actually I am ENFP 7w8 )) 7, 4 , 2 )
Chloe
Hey Deb, no one knows who they are they only ever think that they do. You can't figure it out! And that is alright.
Being an INFJ 5w4 I never EVER connected to that many people in such a short time😳❤🔥
"Your hot takes are lovely," I wish someone would say that to me.
What a lovely thing to hear.
Cannot tell u how much I enjoyed watching this! 🥰💯 Michelle's comment brought tears too. Also wanted to snug her. Such beautiful people 😭😭😭💘.
“Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.”
-- Jesus
I think Caitlin is a countertype 7
Joyce, have you done one of these for INTJs... based on each Enneagram type? If not, PLEASE do!
"Certified" is very Te driven statement, Jungian structure is based on Ti (because he's INTP), a person learns it and observes it (usually through Ne), then makes judgement with Ti/Fi. Te isn't really about his work. It will never be a tribe subject.
ENFP's are amazing at group conversation.
I would've thought, because of Ne there might people talking over each other or one person talking too much.
Not at all!
We enjoy constantly stepping outside of our "body shell", so to speak, and find another person's perception highly interesting and intellectually stimulating. We love to listen and love to learn!
A universal addiction is an addiction to one’s own thought patterns.
ENFP 6w7, I've struggled a lot with accepting I am a 6 for a long time lol. I can go from social happy butterfly talking about banana bread 🍞 to hyper skeptical, assertive, direct, confrontational real quick 🤨. As if I'm a loaded gun ready to blast with 100 questions if you come in between the crossfire. I take feelings of betrayal seriously, It's my most hated value 2nd to putting on face (I wouldn't do well in Japan). I cut friends off as soon as that feeling of betrayal appears, if they dont value the friendship the way I do I will just block and ghost them without saying anything because I get so hurt by it. ENFP with 6 in general feels pretty polarizing to be honest 😅. I questioned if I was ISTJ many times because of this reason.
31:15 “Fi outsources their self-esteem” … so relatable and yet confusing - does someone understand better, or have an example? 😕
I like your laugh. It's funky.
Caitlin, i live with a male 2w1(enfj) and yes 👌👍 its aligning 😇
I'm so confused about my type. Hoping to do a typing session with Joyce once I have the money 🤗
Great! Excited to meet you when the time comes, Misty. :)
Lol Shan helped me realised I'm a 5, 100% resonanted with what you said :0
If we are born a blank slate, is it our life experience that shapes our type ? i am learning a lot from your videos Joyce thank you !! a 4 here.
Environment can influence the way our type expresses itself, but type itself is innate.
@@Kutthroatkawaii Thanks 🤗
I relate to all of them or related at one point in my life
Sara is so funny HAHAHAH i just lose it on the catholic scifi stuff
My apologies but as an INTP, I could not watch past ten minutes of this video. I tried several times but there was an overload of emotion and fuzzyness that I cannot compute and that make me feel odd. This is not a criticism of the fine guests. But it was too much of something weird and I had to get out / shut down. I can't proces nine ENFPs emoting at once! Is this a normal reaction for an INTP?
Yes it’s normal. You’d probably find Deb (type 3) Heidi (8) myself (5) a bit easier to listen to. We’re less emotional in comparison. Joyce added time stamps.
Just hearing everyone’s intros proves they are all ENFPs
Yes!! I love variety and experience ....
Wonderful to see all different ennegram types of ENFPs! I wonder, what ENFP enneagram type would you all consider Gary Vaynerchuck to be?
This is hilarious, I've done the same thing as they 6 except instead of planning for doom, it's long detailed list of all the things I would do if I won the lottery, b/c I'm a 7. :-)
Deb your laugh 💖💓💞
Yes, 3 ENFP!
Are enfp's predominantly female? I'm a male enfp but the majority of content related to the enfp type comes from female of this type
I'd love an article for ENFP 9w8
Aisha is just like me . Lol
What makes Extroverted intuitives confident?
@Demon Windu Thanks Demon your answer makes sense to me.
@@ngqabuthomafu6517 WHAT WAS THE ANSWER?
@@beybrain7896 It's hidden wisdom
@@DK-5 thank you