Tony The Poodle the war was already happening when she made the breaking point. so according the time line, that isn't possible. the war happened bc pink diamond was shattered
Miss Kessa I thought the timeline was that Rose rebelled, then Pink Diamond was shattered, shortly after Bismuth built the Breaking Point and was Bubbled, and then the Diamonds sang their song in order, sad and destroyed over PDs death, and corrupted all the gems on earth. I mean, it´s probably just my fan-timeline, but is it confirmd that PD was shattered after war? I have no idea if they mentioned it in the Ruby-episode.
I like your theory and you bring up a lot of good points. However, I have to argue one thing. I don't believe Bismuth was sad because the war was over. She was sad because she had just learned that all of the Crystal gems besides Pearl garnet and herself were dead.
I think it's fairly certain that Bismuth could be converted to Steven's way of thinking. She clearly has a heart, and a respect and love for her comrades. She was just hurt, conflicted and lashing out. Also, I always assumed Bismuth's character was more personal than a matter of a "Global Nuclear War" allegory. It was a matter of a person who could not give up on her hatred, who couldn't forgive the wrongs that had been done to her in the past. Given what the series seems to be building up too, I have feeling that forgiveness is going to be becoming a very large part of the narrative. It was not only a good opportunity for us to see how Steven is different from his Mother, while also demonstrating that even though the villains will likely be fighting because they cannot let go of their anger, even people on the Crystal Gems side felt the same.
I don't disagree, but I gotta ask ... what past? Bismuth has been bubbled for over 5 thousand years. The war isn't her past, its her yesterday. That isn't a lot of time to get over those sort of things ... which was honestly why I was shocked that the Crystal Gems were overhyping the danger they were in due to homeworld right when she came back.
XD Technically, yesterday IS the past. But I was more referring to her hatred stemming from her time as a homeworld gem. Her resentment for the Homeworld system that enslaved her, to the point where she was unable to just let the Diamonds be, even if they left them alone. She wasn't just fighting for peace or freedom, she was fighting for revenge. She has a genuine emnity towards the gem nobles and those that still serve homeworld, and wanted them to pay for their actions. She could not bring herself to let go of that anger. Now, I actually think that she was perfectly capable of being talked down, and could have been convinced to let go of a lot of her hatred, which is why I don't really see why we still have her bubbled...that won't solve the problem. It would be better to just let her out and talk it over...
Not to mention that Bismuth mentioned she only wanted to shatter the diamonds, nut the innocent gems that are enslaved by them! It would make more sense if the weapon she created was more of a bomb type deal, but it seems to be more close-combat. There is little room for the wielder to fuck up and destroy an innocent gem so there's really no way the nuclear war allegory would hold true.
+Demon Emperor Void Swing "Fighting for Revenge", it's possible, but I'm still not so sure. Bismuth's motives are still a little grey, but from I've gathered I think the disagreement and conflict she had with Rose can boiled down to one very simple thing, what the were fighting the Rebellion for. Rose was clearly fighting for the Earth. Regardless of anything else, it seems that her first priority was always the Earth itself, and everything else came after that (even her allies), so when it came down to the outcome of the Rebellion itself Rose would likely consider it a Success (despite the horrible losses sustained). Bismuth seems to have prioritized Rose's message of individuality, rather than the protection of the Earth itself, and as an extension of that (and her position as the sole provider for Material Gear for the Rebellion) she likely took on a more "Protector" role, to compliment Rose's "Leader" role. She is protecting Rose's ideology, and her allies who already follow it ... so from her perspective the Rebellion would be considered a failure, despite the Earth's survival, since both Rose's message was trapped and useless on the Earth for over 5 thousand years AND nearly every Crystal Gem was "destroyed" (alot of them are probably corrupted). It really is no wonder that she would eventually snap and attempt to create something horrible that could protect what she cherished. I think part of the reason she attacked Steven is that 1) She genuinely came to believe he was Rose playing a trick on her because of his response to the "Breaking Point", 2) Pearl and Garnet over-hyping their current level of danger from homeworld to a person who literally just got out of the war; and 3) Bismuth being in shock by what she would absolutely consider a failed rebellion. An outcome which she likely blames both herself and Rose for.
i believe Garnet amd Pearl are going to have to release her and ask her if shes willing to talk to Steven then him an Bismuth can go into his room and seek closure with Rose
In the episode where we saw Bismuth, I noticed that all the human "rituals" that Steven showed her didn't bother her at all. In fact, she adapted to them. This gave me the idea that Bismuth is curious (and even delighted) in new things, but sometimes finds it difficult to let go of the past, a little like Pearl was. I'm not saying that both incidents are the same, such as how Pearl is still not over with Rose. But no matter how hurt and antisocial Pearl was, Steven never gave up on her. Pearl's inability to let go of the past was way harder and more emotional than I could think of Bismuth's attachment to war. Because of this theory, I think it could be easier for Steven to convince her to adapt to a new life. I believe that her story in adapting to the new crystal gems would be similar to that of Peridot, where it shows character development.
I'm so glad you brought up Bismuth, Slice!! This is the episode that I watched the most. I find Bismuth's character and backstory intriguing. She was a bubbled Crystal Gem! Speaking of the Crystal Gems, I feel that Bismuth had a special connection with a particular gem she named when she was warped to the strawberry-filled Gem Battlefield... I'm talking about *Snowflake*. Bismuth said, "I knew those Homeworld elites were twisted. How many of us did they shatter? Crazy Lace? Biggs!? *Snowflake?!?* If I was there I... I could've stopped it!!" She possibly was closest with Snowflake. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but what do you think? Does anyone else think this? (Btw, I would love to see what Crazy Lace, Biggs, and Snowflake looked and behaved like. Especially Snowflake because Snowflake is actually Obsidian, which is one of my favorite stones. Obsidian is a black, glasslike volcanic rock, but Snowflake Obsidian contains white Cristobalite. This creates its signature "snowflake" appearance.)
All metals have crystal structures. I would send a link to a picture of some crystallized platinum or niobium, but it likely wouldn't get through. I actually have to admit, I like the idea of gems who are based off of pure elements of the periodic table. As a matter of fact my gemsona is Actinium.
OK, I love this concept, but SERIOUSLY?!!! Bismuth is a reflection of Warmongering and War Profiteering? Did you not understand why Bismuth's final weapon was called "The Breaking Point"?! It wasn't just because it was a point that broke gems. She was the Rebellions one and only weapon and armor smith, do you understand what sort of position Bismuth would have been put in because of that status? That weapon was likely the culmination of centuries of desperate efforts to create something strong enough to protect the Crystal Gems (watching as thousands of them got shattered despite those best efforts) and Bismuth finally hitting her own BREAKING POINT and building something that would protect them, no matter the costs. Its very unlikely that she was like this the whole time, its also very unlikely that she wasn't genuine friends with Rose (or any other Crystal Gem) for that matter, or that at her core she isn't a person who truly cares about those relationships. What Bismuth likely is, is the broken remains of a good person pushed to extremes by a combination of tragedy, ideology, and responsibility. Also, remember, Bismuth (unlike Garnet and Pearl) hasn't had any time to heal from the War. For her, it was quite literally yesterday. EDIT: And consider this for the moment. You talked about the escalation of weapons and War and referenced the Cluster. What exactly do you think "the Cluster" is made of if Rose refused to allow her troops to intentionally shatter Homeworld Gems? Millions of Gem Shards, but from whom? And then ask yourself why exactly that might cause a person to want to make a weapon like "The Breaking Point"?
I'm just tryna shove a breaking point through White Diamond's forehead. #FREEMYNIGGABISMUTH. Seriously though Slice 100% agree, I would love to see Bismuth come back and think there's a lot of reasons why she was wronged but it wouldn't work out for the Crystal Gems let alone Bismuth for her to come back. Not to mention I'm pretty sure she doesn't know about Corruption or the whole Rose & Pink Diamond thing... so... that'll be awkward to explain to her.
Wait...are you saying Bismuth ISN'T aware that Rose shattered Pink Diamond?? I think the only people NOT aware of that are Era 2 gems (like Peridot and most of the Ruby Squad minus Eyeball). What would give you the impression that she wouldn't know about that, when it seems clear that was the reason she got so mad at Rose in the first place?
Regina Woodard Because Bismuth was bubbled through the end of the War, and its more than likely that Rose shattered Pink Diamond not long before the war's conclusion, which is the reason the Diamond Song was used as a response. Time does not progress for the Gem who is bubbled, thus Bismuth would have details on how the War ended outside of what information she was given in her brief stint of freedom after Steven released her.
? Where did you get the idea that Bismuth was bubbled through the end of the war? Her statements clearly suggest she and the others saw war time action during the war and Pearl states they lost track of her at the Battle of the Zuggernaut (sp?), meaning she did indeed see some action. Also, Bismuth held a bit of disdain when speaking about Rose's sword - while it was her greatest creation, Rose specified that it would only be able to POOF a gem, not SHATTER it, hence why Bismuth created the Breaking Point. Why then would Rose be so very against a type of weapon that would clearly destroy their enemies? And why would you think PD's shattering was at the END of the war? By all accounts, the Crystal Gems were winning, so taking out one of the Diamond's seems pointless at that point. It also doesn't explain why Blue Diamond would be on Earth during The Answer is the war was almost over AND if the figure everyone claims to be Lapis is indeed in Blue's court, then why would she be on Earth when she was poofed (most likely from the figure that looks a hell of a lot like Bismuth) and put into the mirror. I think it's more likely that PD's shattering is what STARTED the war or at least, took the gems from being simple, annoying rebels to actual threat. That would then explain Eyeball's witnessing of the events, Jasper's ability to be in the war, the rushed production at the Beta Kindgarten, Garnet joining the rebellion, Bismuth joining the rebellion, and why Lapis, Blue Diamond, and Centipeedle being on Earth
Bismuth was bubbled "through the end of the war" as in, no matter how long she was actually in active combat, at some point in the latter half of the Rebellion she came into conflict with Rose on the direction and methods the Crystal Gems should go and use, and as a result she was bubbled and stored within Lion's mane. She did not in person experience the end of the war. For all Bismuth knows (and for all we know) the War could have gone on for centuries after she was put in status. If PD's shattering was at the end of the war (which would make more sense as it wouldn't make Rose a raging hypocrite throughout 1000 years of battle, and would make Jasper's loyalty to PD, rather than another Diamond, actually make sense), then it is very unlikely that Bismuth would be aware of the fact that Rose shattered PD She would also have no knowledge about corruption, since the Diamond Song did not occur until well after she was bubbled. Also, by what accounts do you believe the Crystal Gems were winning? Home-world had infinitely more man power, more resources available, and were actively attempting to shatter their opponents (where if Rose's ideology is to be believed, the Crystal Gems abstained from doing the same to Home-world Gems intentionally). The only reason Rose was able to fight for as long and as effectually as she had is because of her healing tears (something Eyeball implies), keeping her limited forces active for far longer than they had any right to be. Then there is just the likely impulse of a dogmatic system like Homeworld to try to perform Politicide against the Crystal Gems, since they're ideology in of itself was dangerous to Homeworld. The only reason I can think of why Homeworld would have ever retreated and used the Diamond Song is if PD's death happened near the end of the war, and not the beginning. When the remaining 3 Diamonds finally took a personal loss in this battle, rather than sacrificing pawns on a chessboard.
First point, I misread, so my bad. Yes, at some point - I believe - towards the end of the war, their argument happened, causing Rose to put her bubble in Lion. I absolutely believe the war lasted a long time - there are few wars in history that don't take a year or more before they are ended. But I disagree that PD's shattering happening at the end because it explains Jasper - it doesn't. Peridot states that the Beta Kindergarten was RUSHED at the end of the war AND Jasper also states that she fought Rose during that time. If PD was shattered towards the end, what would be the point of HW fighting against the rebels in the first place? It also doesn't explain why Blue Diamond was on Earth and why she took over the Human Zoo; Holly Blue states they've been out there for a while and even Pearl alludes to the fact that she's been there. There's a video...by the Roundtable? I can't remember - that notes The Answer takes place AFTER PD's shattering. And just because HW had more man power doesn't mean they won. Eyeball states there were rumors that Rose had healing powers and that's why the Crystal Gems were able to hold their own against HW (as you mentioned), however if HW won, they would've taken back teh Earth, not fled from it. Centi and Lapis both state that HW were told to leave en masse and those that didn't were corrupted. Also, if they won, why bother with the gem experiments or the cluster? Yellow Diamond seems very firm on 'erasing that rock from our star systems'. That seems like a lot of effort if they 'won' and they could still use the earth's resources.
Hmm ... maybe? Though I get the feeling they'll likely have her bond with Connie before anything else. Bismuth needs a reason to want to protect the Earth (which clearly is not what she was fighting for during the war). Until she has that reason, its hard to predict what she'll do if released.
I agree. Bismuth will likely be the third one to rejoin, after Jasper and later Centi (though there has to be some sort of limitation on Steven uncorrupting gems or it will just get out of hand pretty quickly).
Ultimate Annoyance It certainly is a possibility, but considering the theme of the show, I was thinking something a little more time consuming rather than life threatening. Steven has created a bond between him and Centi, and tends to have a unusual level of sympathy for Corrupted Gems. He also actively knew Jasper before she was corrupted ... I suppose the alternative to a life threatening aspect, is that Steven NEEDS to build some sort of relationship with the corrupted Gem and enter their mind to cure them. This will take time he wont necessarily have as the series heads towards its conclusion. He'll have time for 2 or maybe 3 tops before the Diamond issue hits the fan. But either way is good.
Great video! I love how you've been digging into the social commentary of Steven Universe in your latest videos about the series! Keep up the good work :). Much love!
I think I may have to disagree. This has been a terrible characterization of Bismuth and the way she sees the world. And here's why. Bismuth's sadness wasn't because she could no longer fight, it came from the fact that she found out, her friends, A LOT of them, were gone, and that Homeworld still endangered the Earth. It would be only natural that she would be raring to go to avenge her comrades. As for the use of the Breaking Point, they were at war, and the decision to not shatter their opponents was a hang up Rose had. Now, I'm not saying that Rose wrong for valuing the lives of her enemies, or that the destruction of life is an act that should be so casually undertaken, but they were at war, and to be fair, with the exception of certain actions, I see there being no problem in fighting on the same terms as one's enemy once violence has been set as the current recourse. And I do feel that's the way Bismuth saw things, she saw her friends and innocent lives being claimed by Homeworld's desire for expansion, her cause was noble, and there was a good chance that many more of Rose's army would have seen that too, hence why Rose locked Bismuth away rather than being open and honest about the truth of her actions. But that's beside the point. I'll assume that everyone here is well versed enough to know the way Rose Quartz saw beauty and the preservation of life as being critical, but I feel that so many people are quick to write of the way Bismuth saw the world and Rose's opposition to the Breaking Point. Bismuth saw her cause as defend the lives of innocents, her people, and their liberation from the Diamonds, not preserve all life and their liberation from the Diamonds. The difference is slight, but crucial. It's that difference that made it seem, to Bismuth at least, Rose was putting the lives of Homeworld's gems, the one's responsible for the deaths of so many friends and the oppression of any who fell outside the norm, above the lives of her own people. The decision to not use the Breaking Point, was to Bismuth, a disservice to the rest of the Crystal Gems and placed them in greater danger. A reason why I think that Bismuth has been such a divisive character amongst the fandom is that in addition to being the instigator to Lapis's suffering, it's easy to write her of as nothing more than a violent, uncaring brute. Which is not rue at all. And what's more, which can be also infuriating to fans, she is a harsh critique of Rose and Steven's view that all lives, even their enemies, must be protected, and her accusations are not ones that are easy to address. Personally, I find Bismuth to be a wonderful, and complex addition to the show, and I can only hope we don't have to wait another 100 episodes to see her return.
The rubies are certainly going back to homeworld to inform the diamonds of the Crystal Gems, and they dont have much of a reason for space travel. This thursday we get another lion episode, and usually with lion we get some rose, we might get whats inside the chest in lion's mane, possibly shattered Pink D (and therefore a tape/explination by Pearl/Garnet?). Lapis has already been with the Crystal Gems, sadly I doubt they will ever flesh her out as a character, she will remain a sadistic emo till death. Fusions will come as the series progresses. So, basically, we *should* have time for all of this if they stop making really shitty unessicary filler episodes like "Bloodstone" So we might get half a season of "end" content, how they shatter/bubble/ally the diamonds and therefore all of homeworld is beyond me. Seriously, how are they going to fix that? I assume they will just stop the diamonds from destroying earth, but does that mean they will just let the rest of homeworld suffer under a dictatorship? They should have started on this long ago. Its just too much.
While open to interpretation, I took from Bismuth's account that she met Rose Quartz at some point before the rebellion. She, along with Rose and at least Pearl, was one of the charter members of the Crystal Gems, not because Rose convinced her to fight for freedom, but because Bismuth admired Rose's egalitarian sentiments from her first association with her, and would have been eager to join any fight against those she had come to regard as her oppressors. While the sword most associated with Rose Quartz was indeed forged by Bismuth, the "huge" sword that Eyeball remembers about the former, if it was what shattered Pink Diamond, could not have been that sword. Without debating the military-industrial complex theory, Bismuth's practical value as a weaponsmith must be considerably diminished after the passage of 5000 years. Does she have any concept of a WMD like the corruption nuke? Would she be able to devise or defend against gem destabilizers? Would a plain old M-4 carbine from current human technology be better than anything Bismuth could make? Some regard the Breaking Point as a practical weapon; I do not. It's obvious that capture by Homeworld meant almost certain death by execution (shattering), so the increased fear among the Crystal Gems would be relatively minor had Homeworld employed the Breaking Point (which I contend would be of limited value anyway...how could any HW warrior manage to hit someone like Garnet, whose gemstones are on her palms?) I think that many like and can only look at Bismuth's positive qualities, while ignoring how her ideological purity and hotheadedness essentially negates her value as a warrior or even as a Crystal Gem living among many who don't share her vehemence against the "upper crusts". If Bismuth was unbubbled, frankly I see her having to live on Mars.
this is such an insightful look into bismuth's character! great job! but it got me thinking, what would her hobby be if there was no war to win? i'd be pretty cool if she went back to her homeworld job of architecture. maybe she could build gem rooms like in the temple, for all the gems that will no doubt live on earth after the show.
Great analysis of Bismuth! I'm not sure about when Bismuth should be reintegrated into the team. Perhaps at a time where more questions about Rose and her motives are answered and maybe it can be used to console her. lol idk it's actually a hard question
I believe that the CG's will have no choice but to release Bismuth, as the Diamonds are amassing a force to bring to earth before the cluster emerges. Obviously with all the roaming eyes at the zoo the Amethysts will join in. But as of now the CG's number at 9 (including the 3 centipeetle). They're going to have to let out a powerhouse like her or they really wont stand a fighting chance.
Apart from her extremist mind set, I thought Bismuth fitted in very well with the group when Steven showed her some Earth activities (Badminton, Card Games, cooking, etc) plus she gave Steven one of the best pep talks in the show when she told him he shouldn't compare himself to Rose, that he could be even better. But you do have a point, weaponsmithing became her purpose in life, so it would be hard for her to find a new one.
I love Bismuth and it broke my heart seeing her go I mean a blacksmith!!! Come on she could give people like Connie a extra weapon and armor and when she fuses the armor could strech how cool would that be.
This is a random question, but is there any theory you know of that explains how the crystal gems escaped corruption when it happened? Or has that been explained already?
Toxi Quartz Do we know that yet? It clearly does not work on shattered or damaged gems, but perhaps that's because their "data" is already corrupted and damaged to some degree. The Diamond Song could be like trying to download a new program into a damaged hard-drive, when it comes to instances like Lapis. It may have actually worked on the Poofed, but undamaged gems?
that's interesting remark on how bismuth might be comprable to War weapon designers. however I always saw her mentality or personality, which ever word is more applicable, to be more of the Soldier's purpose predicament. it's that they desire for war and without war what else are they good for and without something to fight against bismuth will have nothing to distract her from the fact that nearly everyone she knows is gone
Stephen can't heal everyone or convince them to be good, but we all love that he tries so hard. Bismuth and Stephen disagreed on the use of the Breaking point to win at any cost even the Earth.
I think what's gonna happen is that Homeworld is going to invade, the Crystals gems will realize that without the army they had the first time around, they'll be heavily outnumbered, thus requiring the need for all the help they can get, including Bismuth.
in the last Steven bomb when yellow diamond sings to blue daimond yellow says let's make a plan of attack. she could mean an attack against the crystal gems but they think cluster is going to emerge soon.
I think she'll be brought back after lapis starts to chill out. Since in lapis' flashback it looks like a bismuth who poofed her even if it isn't our bismuth the resemblance could be striking enough to set lapis off.
I think it would be cool I she was involved in the final battle and the temple was destroyed in that battle. After they won Bismuth would rebuild it bigger and better with rooms for lapis, peridot, any other gem that joins them and then finally herself establishing her role among the Crystal Gems and giving her a new purpose while excepting what rose did to her and moving on.
What a interesting analysis! I haven't thought of it that way! ...and as for the question itself, I really don't know. I want Bismuth to come back in the future but it will obviously take time for that. Hopefully soon though....
I think it'd be cool for Steven and Connie trying to find a new interest for Bismuth, like maybe instead of attacking based weapons, why not offensive, where there would be a shield, but said shield can transform into a bow, or has a hidden bow? Or maybe a Anti-Corruption Song shield, which is based off of Rose's shield... Or cooking, Video games, or maybe even exploration of Past-structures :b
Bismuthdemption and how it's going to go down:Bismuth: Introduced the character and her problems,2: Bismuth learns that her violence has made her no better than Homeworld, and3: Bismuth apologizes to Lapis Lazuli (hoping that her presence doesn't make Lapis more Lapissed than she was in the ocean gem 2-parter), and vows to only make weapons that can't shatter gems.Just a prediction
I think that once all of Rose's secrets come out that Bismuth should come back. Then Pearl, Sapphire, and Ruby can sir her down and give her the *honest* conversation that no one *-could ever-* get from Rose. Through that, she (and maybe even Pearl still) can begin truly healing.
After seeing the reveal of rose being pink, i realized why she did not want to shatter the diamonds, and that is because her family are diamonds. and that she didn't want to hurt yellow and blue, she only reveled to keep the life on earth safe but, destroying diamonds was something she did not want.
i think their should be a scene when the crystal gems go to homeworld ready to fight or homeworld cpmes to them one of the crystal gems perhaps steven relises her and poof her again in the middle of the battle or do it after again and put her in lion or if lion dies in the temple or inf the temple gets destroyed sail it out to sea. srry for a long one
So, I've heard a lot of theories about Steven's dream powers coming into play and becoming a more important part in the series later on. I think usually this is how it's theorized Steven will try to help Jasper, but what if he was able to control it to the point where he could use it to talk to Bismuth? It might go poorly at first as she's made it clear she's not afraid to lash out at Steven (justifiably so from her point of view), but maybe he can talk to her, maybe they could even reach a compromise at some point. Actually, and this is probably a long shot, what if Steven managed to reconcile with both Bismuth and Jasper (after she's been cured of corruption, of course) to the point where there was at least a sort of truce put down and then Jasper and Bismuth meet each other (they might even recognize each other from the last war, hard to say) and of course there's this reluctance to be around each other at first because obviously Bismuth has some bad feelings towards anyone who fought for Homeworld and Jasper still doesn't feel comfortable siding with the Crystal Gems (that is if she decided to momentarily side with them, of course) and the two get to talking and they actually kind of bond after a while. This might be a good way for Bismuth to see that not all of Homeworld gems need to be destroyed and a way for Jasper to possibly further see why the Crystal Gems rebelled. Like I said, it's a long shot and there would probably have to be a LOT of development to build up to it, but it's kind of an interesting way to get them both to see from both sides, I suppose.
I think time with Steven could help Bismuth with this in the same way he has already helped the other Gems. Heck we say it with Steven showing Bismuth hobbies other than sparing. Only problem is whether or not Bismuth will just try to kill Steven again or not. I would like to see Steven try again with Bismuth AND Jasper at some point (could he not just shoot a spit ball at Jasper to see if his spit could heal her from a distance? Trying to make peace with her would still be whole other challenge, but still), its just a matter of figuring out when would be a good time to do so.
I think it would be an interesting idea for some Homeworld gem to capture Lion, freeing Bismuth, and succeed in making Bismuth a villain. After we've seen so many gems (peridot, lapis, and people have theorized Jasper eventually) become good after they weren't as much, I feel it would be an interesting parallel if a crystal gem turned to the other side.
J Grandmaster But Bismuth hates Homeworld more than anything. There's no way she would want to go back, and they wouldn't even accept her on the first place.
Blu Spikes True, but after all the crystal gems have done to her maybe she'll change, or not, I just think it would be an interesting way to bring back the character, and give her further growth. Kindler Master Maybe, but Homeworld has advanced technology and weapons, I feel they could get in. I don't know for sure, but I feel if they kidnapped Lion then it will raise the stakes.
perhaps will see an episode where Garnet, Pearl, Amethyst, Peridot, and Lapis are captured. And in order to save them, Steven releases Bismuth in order to help save the other gems.
a good time to bring bismuth back would be when homeworld tries to attack the crystal gems (which wont be soon because of navy) because she looks like a good fighter and as you said she wants to fight and make weapons.
I would of said that if Steven gets into a trial that would be a good time because it’s a place where she can give a point of view that may support Steven
i think what the B team is doing with their mete-Morps (I'm probably spelling that wrong) could be what Bizmuth needs of she is going to return, an alternative way to create and craft that doesn't involve making weapons. the other gems have had centuries to get used to life with little to no battle, and that's where Bizmuth. Bizmuth in a way is in the same boat as Jasper, cause they both have a long way to go before redemption. I'm interested in how Lapis and Bizmuth will hit it off cause of the gem that poofed hey appears to be Bizmuth.
Personally, I think the best scenario for Bismuth to be reincorporated, it would be as providing weapons to the humans of Beach City when the abduction time comes by, to defend themselves from Homeworld, but instead of creating weapons to exterminate them, just make weapons like Rose's Sword, weapons capable of poofing their physical forms instantly to buy time for the Crystal Gems to form a plan against the Diamonds before it's too late, 'cause it's obvious that Homeworld outnumbers them by millions if not more. However, Garnet and Pearl would have to talk to her before anything else comes to Bismuth, and before she does something rash and dangerous to everyone and herself, and then Steven would be the one talking to convince her to help them for the greater good of the planet and their beloved friends. If Steven is the shield defending and protecting his friends and the people he deeply cares about, then Bismuth would represent the sword on the other side to let them be able to defend themselves.
I feel that Bismuth will return once one of the Crystal Gems is shattered. When they're shattered, they'll want them back. They'll be willing to try anything. I feel that Connie will hypothesis that it's possible to reforge a gem through some method, similar to reforming a weapon. They'll bring back bismuth and she will do her damnedest to bring the crystal gem back. The crystal gem will return, but it won't be the same.
I think it would be great if they got Bismuth back for the Second Rebellion. If rose forms in Steven for a short time, then she and Bis would have a talk, or some type of battle since a lot was left unsaid.
I honestly believe she's going to be an eleventh hour ranger. Steven's going to pushed to the brink and out of options, he'll release her and they'll be forced to work together. Where Bismuth goes from there is still open air, I could easily see her working along with them for awhile before taking things too far and forcing another confrontation, this with perhaps a more decisive and permanent conclusion.
I think Bismuth is a great character! She's lively, up beat, outgoing, but that the same time an extremist. She looks like she can adept to change, however, it will take a while just like how lapis and peridot was. What she needs to do is move on, but that difficult because of the situation happening now. And at the same time needing to forgiven for her action and she needs to apologize for what she tried to do. Bismuth need another chance. I believe she can change not just for others, but for herself.
wait a second... how did bismuth survive the lava bath, the fusion temperature of a bismuth is 271 °C, lava's average tempreature is 700 - 1200 °C is bismuth another gem... ?!
This is a really friggin good theory. I was just wondering like hey. Wouldnt it be easy to unbuble bismuth and be like yo we dont shatter gems. I suppose not. 0_o
instead of using her metallurgy a blacksmithing to make beneficial machinery with peridot now since they both are in association with metal. peridot can help control the metal for bismuth and design them and bismuth can forge the metal.
I think maybe having her fight the last battle may give her some closer and help her move away from the I have to fight to give my creations purpose type mentality because she is an artist but she needs to find a new muse because she was so focused on the war I think it never really ended in her mind and she’s still thinking that they have to destroy the diamonds at this very second because she was bubbled and wasn’t given the chance to evolve with the other crystal gems she was basically unconscious and thrown into the future she wasn’t familiar with ( just my thoughts tho :/)
I feel as though Steven doesn't know how to talk to Bismuth yet. She's still hurting from losing Rose, her fellow comrades, and somewhat her purpose. Steven doesn't exactly know Bismuth well enough to help her cope with the situation just yet. BUT there's always the idea that Mother figure Garnet would actually take the lead on this one!😄 Anyways I think if (when) homeworld returns he's going to need Bismuth and some of the bubbled corrupted gems so when that day comes he'll be ready but as for now Steven needs a lot of development in his communication and persuasive skills *cough* *cough* Room for Ruby. ANYWAYS Thanks for the videos I love each and every one of them and they bring sunshine to my days🤗🤗
If they will ever bring her back, I wish she and Lapislazuli will see each other, because in Lapislazuli story is that Bismuth was the one that poofed Lapis so I want to know the reaction of them meeting up after the war.
I don't think a gem whose soul purpose was battle and war (that she chose for herself) would enjoy the "new Crystal Gem rituals" that she took part in during her episode...
... nah. Bismuth was a tragic figure. She was likable and human (*muttermutter* Lapis Lazuli.) yet she was too far gone in her bloodlust? to leave in her capacity as a weapon smith. Bismuth represents the utility we want that comes at too great a price. Now, do the crystal gems represent the four elements of nature when they team up? (An idea from the pilot.) There's an idea for a video. A.G.
It would be an interesting episode if Bismuth came back if and when Jasper is cured of corruption and then they meet. I'm not saying this to be mean, but out of curiosity to see how Steven and the other Crystal Gems would handle this.
am i the only one wondering why garnet amethyst and pearl dont use there new weapon upgrades? we dont see them again after jasper becomes corrupted because in the kindergarten kid thats when there gone.
when the diamonds get to earth. she needs closure. She needs the gems to be on the offensive. when it is over she will be better. plus steven needs a more honest gem. bismuth is your girl.
hey! you should do something about Steven being the only male gem, sence i believe that he is the only male gem, im sure this would be something great to talk about!
Actually she wasn't sad because of the war. She was sad that all her friends died
SliceofOtaku PLEASE READ THIS, I wonder how rose shattered pink diamond, Maybe she used the breaking point is it possible??
Tony The Poodle the war was already happening when she made the breaking point. so according the time line, that isn't possible. the war happened bc pink diamond was shattered
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I thought the timeline was that Rose rebelled, then Pink Diamond was shattered, shortly after Bismuth built the Breaking Point and was Bubbled, and then the Diamonds sang their song in order, sad and destroyed over PDs death, and corrupted all the gems on earth. I mean, it´s probably just my fan-timeline, but is it confirmd that PD was shattered after war? I have no idea if they mentioned it in the Ruby-episode.
Jeez thanks TH-cam for repeating my comment
This, thank you, i was about to say that.
I like your theory and you bring up a lot of good points. However, I have to argue one thing. I don't believe Bismuth was sad because the war was over. She was sad because she had just learned that all of the Crystal gems besides Pearl garnet and herself were dead.
I want my skittle mama back!!!!
I think it's fairly certain that Bismuth could be converted to Steven's way of thinking. She clearly has a heart, and a respect and love for her comrades. She was just hurt, conflicted and lashing out.
Also, I always assumed Bismuth's character was more personal than a matter of a "Global Nuclear War" allegory. It was a matter of a person who could not give up on her hatred, who couldn't forgive the wrongs that had been done to her in the past. Given what the series seems to be building up too, I have feeling that forgiveness is going to be becoming a very large part of the narrative. It was not only a good opportunity for us to see how Steven is different from his Mother, while also demonstrating that even though the villains will likely be fighting because they cannot let go of their anger, even people on the Crystal Gems side felt the same.
I don't disagree, but I gotta ask ... what past? Bismuth has been bubbled for over 5 thousand years. The war isn't her past, its her yesterday. That isn't a lot of time to get over those sort of things ... which was honestly why I was shocked that the Crystal Gems were overhyping the danger they were in due to homeworld right when she came back.
XD Technically, yesterday IS the past.
But I was more referring to her hatred stemming from her time as a homeworld gem. Her resentment for the Homeworld system that enslaved her, to the point where she was unable to just let the Diamonds be, even if they left them alone. She wasn't just fighting for peace or freedom, she was fighting for revenge. She has a genuine emnity towards the gem nobles and those that still serve homeworld, and wanted them to pay for their actions. She could not bring herself to let go of that anger.
Now, I actually think that she was perfectly capable of being talked down, and could have been convinced to let go of a lot of her hatred, which is why I don't really see why we still have her bubbled...that won't solve the problem. It would be better to just let her out and talk it over...
But as we seen from Ruby Forgiveness can get you screwed over
Not to mention that Bismuth mentioned she only wanted to shatter the diamonds, nut the innocent gems that are enslaved by them! It would make more sense if the weapon she created was more of a bomb type deal, but it seems to be more close-combat. There is little room for the wielder to fuck up and destroy an innocent gem so there's really no way the nuclear war allegory would hold true.
+Demon Emperor Void Swing "Fighting for Revenge", it's possible, but I'm still not so sure. Bismuth's motives are still a little grey, but from I've gathered I think the disagreement and conflict she had with Rose can boiled down to one very simple thing, what the were fighting the Rebellion for. Rose was clearly fighting for the Earth. Regardless of anything else, it seems that her first priority was always the Earth itself, and everything else came after that (even her allies), so when it came down to the outcome of the Rebellion itself Rose would likely consider it a Success (despite the horrible losses sustained).
Bismuth seems to have prioritized Rose's message of individuality, rather than the protection of the Earth itself, and as an extension of that (and her position as the sole provider for Material Gear for the Rebellion) she likely took on a more "Protector" role, to compliment Rose's "Leader" role. She is protecting Rose's ideology, and her allies who already follow it ... so from her perspective the Rebellion would be considered a failure, despite the Earth's survival, since both Rose's message was trapped and useless on the Earth for over 5 thousand years AND nearly every Crystal Gem was "destroyed" (alot of them are probably corrupted). It really is no wonder that she would eventually snap and attempt to create something horrible that could protect what she cherished.
I think part of the reason she attacked Steven is that 1) She genuinely came to believe he was Rose playing a trick on her because of his response to the "Breaking Point", 2) Pearl and Garnet over-hyping their current level of danger from homeworld to a person who literally just got out of the war; and 3) Bismuth being in shock by what she would absolutely consider a failed rebellion. An outcome which she likely blames both herself and Rose for.
i believe Garnet amd Pearl are going to have to release her and ask her if shes willing to talk to Steven then him an Bismuth can go into his room and seek closure with Rose
In the episode where we saw Bismuth, I noticed that all the human "rituals" that Steven showed her didn't bother her at all. In fact, she adapted to them. This gave me the idea that Bismuth is curious (and even delighted) in new things, but sometimes finds it difficult to let go of the past, a little like Pearl was. I'm not saying that both incidents are the same, such as how Pearl is still not over with Rose. But no matter how hurt and antisocial Pearl was, Steven never gave up on her. Pearl's inability to let go of the past was way harder and more emotional than I could think of Bismuth's attachment to war. Because of this theory, I think it could be easier for Steven to convince her to adapt to a new life. I believe that her story in adapting to the new crystal gems would be similar to that of Peridot, where it shows character development.
The thing with Bismuth is that all of those things JUST happened to her. She was trapped in time she didn't have thousands of years to get over it.
I'm so glad you brought up Bismuth, Slice!! This is the episode that I watched the most. I find Bismuth's character and backstory intriguing. She was a bubbled Crystal Gem! Speaking of the Crystal Gems, I feel that Bismuth had a special connection with a particular gem she named when she was warped to the strawberry-filled Gem Battlefield... I'm talking about *Snowflake*.
Bismuth said, "I knew those Homeworld elites were twisted. How many of us did they shatter? Crazy Lace? Biggs!? *Snowflake?!?* If I was there I... I could've stopped it!!"
She possibly was closest with Snowflake. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but what do you think? Does anyone else think this?
(Btw, I would love to see what Crazy Lace, Biggs, and Snowflake looked and behaved like. Especially Snowflake because Snowflake is actually Obsidian, which is one of my favorite stones. Obsidian is a black, glasslike volcanic rock, but Snowflake Obsidian contains white Cristobalite. This creates its signature "snowflake" appearance.)
Emmie Reigel Wow! You know alot of gems😲
*SU Bismuth:* A Crystal Gem
*Actual Bismuth:* Neither a Crystal nor a Gem
wtf
Sids MyName Bismuth is a crystal.
Got to love those Metalloids! ;)
All metals have crystal structures. I would send a link to a picture of some crystallized platinum or niobium, but it likely wouldn't get through.
I actually have to admit, I like the idea of gems who are based off of pure elements of the periodic table. As a matter of fact my gemsona is Actinium.
Sids MyName lol
Great analysis for Bismuth, that's what a lot of people need to undertand, good job there. Have a like.
OK, I love this concept, but SERIOUSLY?!!! Bismuth is a reflection of Warmongering and War Profiteering? Did you not understand why Bismuth's final weapon was called "The Breaking Point"?!
It wasn't just because it was a point that broke gems. She was the Rebellions one and only weapon and armor smith, do you understand what sort of position Bismuth would have been put in because of that status? That weapon was likely the culmination of centuries of desperate efforts to create something strong enough to protect the Crystal Gems (watching as thousands of them got shattered despite those best efforts) and Bismuth finally hitting her own BREAKING POINT and building something that would protect them, no matter the costs. Its very unlikely that she was like this the whole time, its also very unlikely that she wasn't genuine friends with Rose (or any other Crystal Gem) for that matter, or that at her core she isn't a person who truly cares about those relationships. What Bismuth likely is, is the broken remains of a good person pushed to extremes by a combination of tragedy, ideology, and responsibility. Also, remember, Bismuth (unlike Garnet and Pearl) hasn't had any time to heal from the War. For her, it was quite literally yesterday.
EDIT: And consider this for the moment. You talked about the escalation of weapons and War and referenced the Cluster. What exactly do you think "the Cluster" is made of if Rose refused to allow her troops to intentionally shatter Homeworld Gems? Millions of Gem Shards, but from whom? And then ask yourself why exactly that might cause a person to want to make a weapon like "The Breaking Point"?
I'm just tryna shove a breaking point through White Diamond's forehead. #FREEMYNIGGABISMUTH.
Seriously though Slice 100% agree, I would love to see Bismuth come back and think there's a lot of reasons why she was wronged but it wouldn't work out for the Crystal Gems let alone Bismuth for her to come back. Not to mention I'm pretty sure she doesn't know about Corruption or the whole Rose & Pink Diamond thing... so... that'll be awkward to explain to her.
Wait...are you saying Bismuth ISN'T aware that Rose shattered Pink Diamond?? I think the only people NOT aware of that are Era 2 gems (like Peridot and most of the Ruby Squad minus Eyeball). What would give you the impression that she wouldn't know about that, when it seems clear that was the reason she got so mad at Rose in the first place?
Regina Woodard Because Bismuth was bubbled through the end of the War, and its more than likely that Rose shattered Pink Diamond not long before the war's conclusion, which is the reason the Diamond Song was used as a response. Time does not progress for the Gem who is bubbled, thus Bismuth would have details on how the War ended outside of what information she was given in her brief stint of freedom after Steven released her.
? Where did you get the idea that Bismuth was bubbled through the end of the war? Her statements clearly suggest she and the others saw war time action during the war and Pearl states they lost track of her at the Battle of the Zuggernaut (sp?), meaning she did indeed see some action.
Also, Bismuth held a bit of disdain when speaking about Rose's sword - while it was her greatest creation, Rose specified that it would only be able to POOF a gem, not SHATTER it, hence why Bismuth created the Breaking Point. Why then would Rose be so very against a type of weapon that would clearly destroy their enemies? And why would you think PD's shattering was at the END of the war?
By all accounts, the Crystal Gems were winning, so taking out one of the Diamond's seems pointless at that point. It also doesn't explain why Blue Diamond would be on Earth during The Answer is the war was almost over AND if the figure everyone claims to be Lapis is indeed in Blue's court, then why would she be on Earth when she was poofed (most likely from the figure that looks a hell of a lot like Bismuth) and put into the mirror.
I think it's more likely that PD's shattering is what STARTED the war or at least, took the gems from being simple, annoying rebels to actual threat. That would then explain Eyeball's witnessing of the events, Jasper's ability to be in the war, the rushed production at the Beta Kindgarten, Garnet joining the rebellion, Bismuth joining the rebellion, and why Lapis, Blue Diamond, and Centipeedle being on Earth
Bismuth was bubbled "through the end of the war" as in, no matter how long she was actually in active combat, at some point in the latter half of the Rebellion she came into conflict with Rose on the direction and methods the Crystal Gems should go and use, and as a result she was bubbled and stored within Lion's mane. She did not in person experience the end of the war.
For all Bismuth knows (and for all we know) the War could have gone on for centuries after she was put in status. If PD's shattering was at the end of the war (which would make more sense as it wouldn't make Rose a raging hypocrite throughout 1000 years of battle, and would make Jasper's loyalty to PD, rather than another Diamond, actually make sense), then it is very unlikely that Bismuth would be aware of the fact that Rose shattered PD She would also have no knowledge about corruption, since the Diamond Song did not occur until well after she was bubbled.
Also, by what accounts do you believe the Crystal Gems were winning? Home-world had infinitely more man power, more resources available, and were actively attempting to shatter their opponents (where if Rose's ideology is to be believed, the Crystal Gems abstained from doing the same to Home-world Gems intentionally). The only reason Rose was able to fight for as long and as effectually as she had is because of her healing tears (something Eyeball implies), keeping her limited forces active for far longer than they had any right to be.
Then there is just the likely impulse of a dogmatic system like Homeworld to try to perform Politicide against the Crystal Gems, since they're ideology in of itself was dangerous to Homeworld. The only reason I can think of why Homeworld would have ever retreated and used the Diamond Song is if PD's death happened near the end of the war, and not the beginning. When the remaining 3 Diamonds finally took a personal loss in this battle, rather than sacrificing pawns on a chessboard.
First point, I misread, so my bad. Yes, at some point - I believe - towards the end of the war, their argument happened, causing Rose to put her bubble in Lion.
I absolutely believe the war lasted a long time - there are few wars in history that don't take a year or more before they are ended. But I disagree that PD's shattering happening at the end because it explains Jasper - it doesn't. Peridot states that the Beta Kindergarten was RUSHED at the end of the war AND Jasper also states that she fought Rose during that time. If PD was shattered towards the end, what would be the point of HW fighting against the rebels in the first place?
It also doesn't explain why Blue Diamond was on Earth and why she took over the Human Zoo; Holly Blue states they've been out there for a while and even Pearl alludes to the fact that she's been there. There's a video...by the Roundtable? I can't remember - that notes The Answer takes place AFTER PD's shattering.
And just because HW had more man power doesn't mean they won. Eyeball states there were rumors that Rose had healing powers and that's why the Crystal Gems were able to hold their own against HW (as you mentioned), however if HW won, they would've taken back teh Earth, not fled from it. Centi and Lapis both state that HW were told to leave en masse and those that didn't were corrupted. Also, if they won, why bother with the gem experiments or the cluster? Yellow Diamond seems very firm on 'erasing that rock from our star systems'.
That seems like a lot of effort if they 'won' and they could still use the earth's resources.
*Reads the title*
*FreeMyNiggaBismuth flashbacks trigger*
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Giant Flying Spaghetti Monster
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do yall think they will release bismuth and she will be able to fuse with garnet or pearl
Hmm ... maybe? Though I get the feeling they'll likely have her bond with Connie before anything else. Bismuth needs a reason to want to protect the Earth (which clearly is not what she was fighting for during the war). Until she has that reason, its hard to predict what she'll do if released.
it would be cool if she fused with someone
+Nathan Warren I know it's really unlikely, but what if Bismuth fused with Lapis?
what if she fused with steven or amethyst that would be so cool they could have a cool name like rainbow quartz
what if stevanni fused with bismuth that would be cool
She will probably live in the forge.
We need the big buff Cheeto puff first! Then the rainbow mom can come back
I agree. Bismuth will likely be the third one to rejoin, after Jasper and later Centi (though there has to be some sort of limitation on Steven uncorrupting gems or it will just get out of hand pretty quickly).
David Kadoun What if somehow Steven uncorrupts Jasper and Centi but it drains him almost to the point of death, so he's told never to do it again.
Ultimate Annoyance It certainly is a possibility, but considering the theme of the show, I was thinking something a little more time consuming rather than life threatening. Steven has created a bond between him and Centi, and tends to have a unusual level of sympathy for Corrupted Gems. He also actively knew Jasper before she was corrupted ... I suppose the alternative to a life threatening aspect, is that Steven NEEDS to build some sort of relationship with the corrupted Gem and enter their mind to cure them. This will take time he wont necessarily have as the series heads towards its conclusion. He'll have time for 2 or maybe 3 tops before the Diamond issue hits the fan.
But either way is good.
#FREEMYNIGGABISMUTH
Charlotte no
Great video! I love how you've been digging into the social commentary of Steven Universe in your latest videos about the series! Keep up the good work :). Much love!
I think I may have to disagree. This has been a terrible characterization of Bismuth and the way she sees the world. And here's why.
Bismuth's sadness wasn't because she could no longer fight, it came from the fact that she found out, her friends, A LOT of them, were gone, and that Homeworld still endangered the Earth. It would be only natural that she would be raring to go to avenge her comrades.
As for the use of the Breaking Point, they were at war, and the decision to not shatter their opponents was a hang up Rose had. Now, I'm not saying that Rose wrong for valuing the lives of her enemies, or that the destruction of life is an act that should be so casually undertaken, but they were at war, and to be fair, with the exception of certain actions, I see there being no problem in fighting on the same terms as one's enemy once violence has been set as the current recourse. And I do feel that's the way Bismuth saw things, she saw her friends and innocent lives being claimed by Homeworld's desire for expansion, her cause was noble, and there was a good chance that many more of Rose's army would have seen that too, hence why Rose locked Bismuth away rather than being open and honest about the truth of her actions. But that's beside the point.
I'll assume that everyone here is well versed enough to know the way Rose Quartz saw beauty and the preservation of life as being critical, but I feel that so many people are quick to write of the way Bismuth saw the world and Rose's opposition to the Breaking Point. Bismuth saw her cause as defend the lives of innocents, her people, and their liberation from the Diamonds, not preserve all life and their liberation from the Diamonds. The difference is slight, but crucial.
It's that difference that made it seem, to Bismuth at least, Rose was putting the lives of Homeworld's gems, the one's responsible for the deaths of so many friends and the oppression of any who fell outside the norm, above the lives of her own people. The decision to not use the Breaking Point, was to Bismuth, a disservice to the rest of the Crystal Gems and placed them in greater danger.
A reason why I think that Bismuth has been such a divisive character amongst the fandom is that in addition to being the instigator to Lapis's suffering, it's easy to write her of as nothing more than a violent, uncaring brute. Which is not rue at all. And what's more, which can be also infuriating to fans, she is a harsh critique of Rose and Steven's view that all lives, even their enemies, must be protected, and her accusations are not ones that are easy to address.
Personally, I find Bismuth to be a wonderful, and complex addition to the show, and I can only hope we don't have to wait another 100 episodes to see her return.
I love Bismuth but I want Jasper first. Jasper came in Season 1 so she's in front of Bismuth in the Redemption Queue
The rubies are certainly going back to homeworld to inform the diamonds of the Crystal Gems, and they dont have much of a reason for space travel. This thursday we get another lion episode, and usually with lion we get some rose, we might get whats inside the chest in lion's mane, possibly shattered Pink D (and therefore a tape/explination by Pearl/Garnet?). Lapis has already been with the Crystal Gems, sadly I doubt they will ever flesh her out as a character, she will remain a sadistic emo till death. Fusions will come as the series progresses.
So, basically, we *should* have time for all of this if they stop making really shitty unessicary filler episodes like "Bloodstone"
So we might get half a season of "end" content, how they shatter/bubble/ally the diamonds and therefore all of homeworld is beyond me. Seriously, how are they going to fix that? I assume they will just stop the diamonds from destroying earth, but does that mean they will just let the rest of homeworld suffer under a dictatorship? They should have started on this long ago. Its just too much.
A really great analysis of Bismuth!
While open to interpretation, I took from Bismuth's account that she met Rose Quartz at some point before the rebellion. She, along with Rose and at least Pearl, was one of the charter members of the Crystal Gems, not because Rose convinced her to fight for freedom, but because Bismuth admired Rose's egalitarian sentiments from her first association with her, and would have been eager to join any fight against those she had come to regard as her oppressors.
While the sword most associated with Rose Quartz was indeed forged by Bismuth, the "huge" sword that Eyeball remembers about the former, if it was what shattered Pink Diamond, could not have been that sword.
Without debating the military-industrial complex theory, Bismuth's practical value as a weaponsmith must be considerably diminished after the passage of 5000 years. Does she have any concept of a WMD like the corruption nuke? Would she be able to devise or defend against gem destabilizers? Would a plain old M-4 carbine from current human technology be better than anything Bismuth could make?
Some regard the Breaking Point as a practical weapon; I do not. It's obvious that capture by Homeworld meant almost certain death by execution (shattering), so the increased fear among the Crystal Gems would be relatively minor had Homeworld employed the Breaking Point (which I contend would be of limited value anyway...how could any HW warrior manage to hit someone like Garnet, whose gemstones are on her palms?)
I think that many like and can only look at Bismuth's positive qualities, while ignoring how her ideological purity and hotheadedness essentially negates her value as a warrior or even as a Crystal Gem living among many who don't share her vehemence against the "upper crusts". If Bismuth was unbubbled, frankly I see her having to live on Mars.
this is such an insightful look into bismuth's character! great job! but it got me thinking, what would her hobby be if there was no war to win? i'd be pretty cool if she went back to her homeworld job of architecture. maybe she could build gem rooms like in the temple, for all the gems that will no doubt live on earth after the show.
This is exactly what I had in mind about Bismuth. Thanks for making this video.
Great analysis of Bismuth! I'm not sure about when Bismuth should be reintegrated into the team. Perhaps at a time where more questions about Rose and her motives are answered and maybe it can be used to console her. lol idk it's actually a hard question
I believe that the CG's will have no choice but to release Bismuth, as the Diamonds are amassing a force to bring to earth before the cluster emerges. Obviously with all the roaming eyes at the zoo the Amethysts will join in. But as of now the CG's number at 9 (including the 3 centipeetle). They're going to have to let out a powerhouse like her or they really wont stand a fighting chance.
Apart from her extremist mind set, I thought Bismuth fitted in very well with the group when Steven showed her some Earth activities (Badminton, Card Games, cooking, etc) plus she gave Steven one of the best pep talks in the show when she told him he shouldn't compare himself to Rose, that he could be even better. But you do have a point, weaponsmithing became her purpose in life, so it would be hard for her to find a new one.
I love Bismuth and it broke my heart seeing her go I mean a blacksmith!!! Come on she could give people like Connie a extra weapon and armor and when she fuses the armor could strech how cool would that be.
This is a random question, but is there any theory you know of that explains how the crystal gems escaped corruption when it happened? Or has that been explained already?
as far as we know, rose was able to protect garnet and pearl with her shield from the corruption light, as greg stated in the episode the return
Toxi Quartz Do we know that yet? It clearly does not work on shattered or damaged gems, but perhaps that's because their "data" is already corrupted and damaged to some degree. The Diamond Song could be like trying to download a new program into a damaged hard-drive, when it comes to instances like Lapis. It may have actually worked on the Poofed, but undamaged gems?
Karma And Pearl and Garnet also confirmed it in Bismuth
that's interesting remark on how bismuth might be comprable to War weapon designers. however I always saw her mentality or personality, which ever word is more applicable, to be more of the Soldier's purpose predicament. it's that they desire for war and without war what else are they good for and without something to fight against bismuth will have nothing to distract her from the fact that nearly everyone she knows is gone
Stephen can't heal everyone or convince them to be good, but we all love that he tries so hard. Bismuth and Stephen disagreed on the use of the Breaking point to win at any cost even the Earth.
I think what's gonna happen is that Homeworld is going to invade, the Crystals gems will realize that without the army they had the first time around, they'll be heavily outnumbered, thus requiring the need for all the help they can get, including Bismuth.
I think the recuse of lars would be a good point to add her back
in the last Steven bomb when yellow diamond sings to blue daimond yellow says let's make a plan of attack. she could mean an attack against the crystal gems but they think cluster is going to emerge soon.
I think she'll be brought back after lapis starts to chill out. Since in lapis' flashback it looks like a bismuth who poofed her even if it isn't our bismuth the resemblance could be striking enough to set lapis off.
I think it would be cool I she was involved in the final battle and the temple was destroyed in that battle. After they won Bismuth would rebuild it bigger and better with rooms for lapis, peridot, any other gem that joins them and then finally herself establishing her role among the Crystal Gems and giving her a new purpose while excepting what rose did to her and moving on.
What a interesting analysis! I haven't thought of it that way!
...and as for the question itself, I really don't know. I want Bismuth to come back in the future but it will obviously take time for that. Hopefully soon though....
I think it'd be cool for Steven and Connie trying to find a new interest for Bismuth, like maybe instead of attacking based weapons, why not offensive, where there would be a shield, but said shield can transform into a bow, or has a hidden bow? Or maybe a Anti-Corruption Song shield, which is based off of Rose's shield...
Or cooking, Video games, or maybe even exploration of Past-structures :b
Bismuth is Steven Universe's Saw Gerrera
Bismuthdemption and how it's going to go down:Bismuth: Introduced the character and her problems,2: Bismuth learns that her violence has made her no better than Homeworld, and3: Bismuth apologizes to Lapis Lazuli (hoping that her presence doesn't make Lapis more Lapissed than she was in the ocean gem 2-parter), and vows to only make weapons that can't shatter gems.Just a prediction
I think that once all of Rose's secrets come out that Bismuth should come back. Then Pearl, Sapphire, and Ruby can sir her down and give her the *honest* conversation that no one *-could ever-* get from Rose. Through that, she (and maybe even Pearl still) can begin truly healing.
After seeing the reveal of rose being pink, i realized why she did not want to shatter the diamonds, and that is because her family are diamonds. and that she didn't want to hurt yellow and blue, she only reveled to keep the life on earth safe but, destroying diamonds was something she did not want.
i think their should be a scene when the crystal gems go to homeworld ready to fight or homeworld cpmes to them one of the crystal gems perhaps steven relises her and poof her again in the middle of the battle or do it after again and put her in lion or if lion dies in the temple or inf the temple gets destroyed sail it out to sea. srry for a long one
So, I've heard a lot of theories about Steven's dream powers coming into play and becoming a more important part in the series later on. I think usually this is how it's theorized Steven will try to help Jasper, but what if he was able to control it to the point where he could use it to talk to Bismuth? It might go poorly at first as she's made it clear she's not afraid to lash out at Steven (justifiably so from her point of view), but maybe he can talk to her, maybe they could even reach a compromise at some point.
Actually, and this is probably a long shot, what if Steven managed to reconcile with both Bismuth and Jasper (after she's been cured of corruption, of course) to the point where there was at least a sort of truce put down and then Jasper and Bismuth meet each other (they might even recognize each other from the last war, hard to say) and of course there's this reluctance to be around each other at first because obviously Bismuth has some bad feelings towards anyone who fought for Homeworld and Jasper still doesn't feel comfortable siding with the Crystal Gems (that is if she decided to momentarily side with them, of course) and the two get to talking and they actually kind of bond after a while. This might be a good way for Bismuth to see that not all of Homeworld gems need to be destroyed and a way for Jasper to possibly further see why the Crystal Gems rebelled.
Like I said, it's a long shot and there would probably have to be a LOT of development to build up to it, but it's kind of an interesting way to get them both to see from both sides, I suppose.
she could forge cool tools (maybe for humans if the gems dont need them) instead of weapons, finding a peaceful use for a skill she already has
it would be interesting to see the dynamic between Steven and bismuth.
I think time with Steven could help Bismuth with this in the same way he has already helped the other Gems. Heck we say it with Steven showing Bismuth hobbies other than sparing. Only problem is whether or not Bismuth will just try to kill Steven again or not. I would like to see Steven try again with Bismuth AND Jasper at some point (could he not just shoot a spit ball at Jasper to see if his spit could heal her from a distance? Trying to make peace with her would still be whole other challenge, but still), its just a matter of figuring out when would be a good time to do so.
I think it would be an interesting idea for some Homeworld gem to capture Lion, freeing Bismuth, and succeed in making Bismuth a villain. After we've seen so many gems (peridot, lapis, and people have theorized Jasper eventually) become good after they weren't as much, I feel it would be an interesting parallel if a crystal gem turned to the other side.
J Grandmaster But Bismuth hates Homeworld more than anything. There's no way she would want to go back, and they wouldn't even accept her on the first place.
J Grandmaster But they can't get inside Lion's mane without his consent.
Kingler Master Bismuth's no longer inside Lion, remember? The Crystal Gems put her in the temple with the other bubbled gems.
Blu Spikes
True, but after all the crystal gems have done to her maybe she'll change, or not, I just think it would be an interesting way to bring back the character, and give her further growth.
Kindler Master
Maybe, but Homeworld has advanced technology and weapons, I feel they could get in. I don't know for sure, but I feel if they kidnapped Lion then it will raise the stakes.
Blu Spikes
I totally forgot, my bad.
perhaps will see an episode where Garnet, Pearl, Amethyst, Peridot, and Lapis are captured. And in order to save them, Steven releases Bismuth in order to help save the other gems.
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Lol rip
a good time to bring bismuth back would be when homeworld tries to attack the crystal gems (which wont be soon because of navy) because she looks like a good fighter and as you said she wants to fight and make weapons.
in the thumbnail I thought it was bismuth strangling connie
bismuth should become a master chef or wrestler, she can get her pent up anger out in the ring, or in a quiche
I would of said that if Steven gets into a trial that would be a good time because it’s a place where she can give a point of view that may support Steven
i think what the B team is doing with their mete-Morps (I'm probably spelling that wrong) could be what Bizmuth needs of she is going to return, an alternative way to create and craft that doesn't involve making weapons. the other gems have had centuries to get used to life with little to no battle, and that's where Bizmuth. Bizmuth in a way is in the same boat as Jasper, cause they both have a long way to go before redemption. I'm interested in how Lapis and Bizmuth will hit it off cause of the gem that poofed hey appears to be Bizmuth.
with the return of the rubies to homeworld, i think things are gonna get pretty hardcore soon and bismuth is gonna return soon
Ah, the warrior dilemma... Reminds me of what happened to the samurai once conflicts stopped in Japan.
what episode is 4:11 I need to catch up
Personally, I think the best scenario for Bismuth to be reincorporated, it would be as providing weapons to the humans of Beach City when the abduction time comes by, to defend themselves from Homeworld, but instead of creating weapons to exterminate them, just make weapons like Rose's Sword, weapons capable of poofing their physical forms instantly to buy time for the Crystal Gems to form a plan against the Diamonds before it's too late, 'cause it's obvious that Homeworld outnumbers them by millions if not more.
However, Garnet and Pearl would have to talk to her before anything else comes to Bismuth, and before she does something rash and dangerous to everyone and herself, and then Steven would be the one talking to convince her to help them for the greater good of the planet and their beloved friends.
If Steven is the shield defending and protecting his friends and the people he deeply cares about, then Bismuth would represent the sword on the other side to let them be able to defend themselves.
I feel that Bismuth will return once one of the Crystal Gems is shattered. When they're shattered, they'll want them back. They'll be willing to try anything. I feel that Connie will hypothesis that it's possible to reforge a gem through some method, similar to reforming a weapon. They'll bring back bismuth and she will do her damnedest to bring the crystal gem back. The crystal gem will return, but it won't be the same.
I think it would be great if they got Bismuth back for the Second Rebellion. If rose forms in Steven for a short time, then she and Bis would have a talk, or some type of battle since a lot was left unsaid.
I honestly believe she's going to be an eleventh hour ranger. Steven's going to pushed to the brink and out of options, he'll release her and they'll be forced to work together. Where Bismuth goes from there is still open air, I could easily see her working along with them for awhile before taking things too far and forcing another confrontation, this with perhaps a more decisive and permanent conclusion.
I think Bismuth is a great character! She's lively, up beat, outgoing, but that the same time an extremist. She looks like she can adept to change, however, it will take a while just like how lapis and peridot was. What she needs to do is move on, but that difficult because of the situation happening now. And at the same time needing to forgiven for her action and she needs to apologize for what she tried to do. Bismuth need another chance. I believe she can change not just for others, but for herself.
wait a second... how did bismuth survive the lava bath, the fusion temperature of a bismuth is 271 °C, lava's average tempreature is 700 - 1200 °C is bismuth another gem... ?!
This is a really friggin good theory. I was just wondering like hey. Wouldnt it be easy to unbuble bismuth and be like yo we dont shatter gems. I suppose not. 0_o
They want Bismuth to be free, this reminds me of the duelists wanting to free Elemental HERO Stratos back from the Ban List.
instead of using her metallurgy a blacksmithing to make beneficial machinery with peridot now since they both are in association with metal. peridot can help control the metal for bismuth and design them and bismuth can forge the metal.
The episode Bismuth returns in needs to be called "Back in Bismuth."
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I'd say any time is the best time to bring bismuth back
I really want new gems to join damm
I think maybe having her fight the last battle may give her some closer and help her move away from the I have to fight to give my creations purpose type mentality because she is an artist but she needs to find a new muse because she was so focused on the war I think it never really ended in her mind and she’s still thinking that they have to destroy the diamonds at this very second because she was bubbled and wasn’t given the chance to evolve with the other crystal gems she was basically unconscious and thrown into the future she wasn’t familiar with ( just my thoughts tho :/)
Bismuth would see Lapis as an insane weapon.
If they know homeworld is planning to attack soon that's when bismuth should be brought back
Now we are back in bismith
all the gems get captured. and steven has no choice but to unbubble bismuth to have a chance to save them.
I feel as though Steven doesn't know how to talk to Bismuth yet. She's still hurting from losing Rose, her fellow comrades, and somewhat her purpose. Steven doesn't exactly know Bismuth well enough to help her cope with the situation just yet. BUT there's always the idea that Mother figure Garnet would actually take the lead on this one!😄 Anyways I think if (when) homeworld returns he's going to need Bismuth and some of the bubbled corrupted gems so when that day comes he'll be ready but as for now Steven needs a lot of development in his communication and persuasive skills *cough* *cough* Room for Ruby.
ANYWAYS Thanks for the videos I love each and every one of them and they bring sunshine to my days🤗🤗
Can you talk about the topic about if every gem will fuse with each other before the series end and what gems will fuse in the end middle or beginning
Alas, if the surviving diamonds come back to finish what they started, Bismuth may be needed sooner than they think. :'-(
If they will ever bring her back, I wish she and Lapislazuli will see each other, because in Lapislazuli story is that Bismuth was the one that poofed Lapis so I want to know the reaction of them meeting up after the war.
Bismuth loves to make a Pizza, maybe she can become chef ?
I don't think a gem whose soul purpose was battle and war (that she chose for herself) would enjoy the "new Crystal Gem rituals" that she took part in during her episode...
I have an interesting scenario: if Bismuth and Jasper were together in the same team, how would they get along?
What if gems are like saiyans in the way that half breeds have more potential then full bloods?
Bismuth was made a million times more interesting character in one episode then Lapis ever was in 4 seasons.
that's so fucking true
I didn't even think about how after the war would affect her
She said she would have taken the war to Homeworld. She didn't intend to stop fighting until the Diamonds were shattered.
... nah. Bismuth was a tragic figure. She was likable and human (*muttermutter* Lapis Lazuli.) yet she was too far gone in her bloodlust? to leave in her capacity as a weapon smith. Bismuth represents the utility we want that comes at too great a price.
Now, do the crystal gems represent the four elements of nature when they team up? (An idea from the pilot.) There's an idea for a video.
A.G.
I think that it was for the best that Bismuth was bubbled because might of done more harm than good
I just had a dream we are going to get another Steven bomb and it's going to be the week of bismuth
It would be an interesting episode if Bismuth came back if and when Jasper is cured of corruption and then they meet. I'm not saying this to be mean, but out of curiosity to see how Steven and the other Crystal Gems would handle this.
this show gets so fuckin deep
am i the only one wondering why garnet amethyst and pearl dont use there new weapon upgrades? we dont see them again after jasper becomes corrupted because in the kindergarten kid thats when there gone.
Holy shit I just realized that sword hanging on the ceiling in the first picture looks exactly like the Dark Sword from Dark Souls.
Well I guess looking back on it now it looks slightly different.
As it says it 1984 War is Peace Freedom is Slavary
when the diamonds get to earth. she needs closure. She needs the gems to be on the offensive. when it is over she will be better. plus steven needs a more honest gem. bismuth is your girl.
I love the bara rainbow dreadlocks mama but she needs to chill asap
I just want bismuth to come BACK man, she deserves some redemption ,another chance .
I hope I don't sound weird but I love the sound of your voice.. o3o
Damn I noticed she was dependent on the war
the time for war is the time to bring her back baby wooooo
hey! you should do something about Steven being the only male gem, sence i believe that he is the only male gem, im sure this would be something great to talk about!
Maybe they will teach bismuth to be less violence, like when batman took in damian.
*violent