@@123ignitionchannel I'm on my 4th 123, I really rate them! The only issue I have is I dont seem to be able to make make adjustments on the fly even though its the tune version that i have. I have to power cycle the dist to get the android app to download the change.
@@123ignitionchannel That's very kind and good to know - since my car has the XC/ engine, things might be a bit different! Just received my parcel with the components directly from the NL! Looking forward to starting with the conversion.
9:12 - so inside the guts of the 123, is the vacuum advance a mechanical system, or purely electronic? This item is one of my potential purchases for a classic Mini.
Hi! The vacuum system is fully electronic. Inside of the 123ignition is a vacuum sensor which translates the vacuum/boost pressure directly to a digital signal.
Hello, a quick question. In the video you say the ignition needs to be set at 11 degrees btdc, so why do you set the distributor at tdc? I'm sorry, i got myself one of your great distributor and before i mount it i want to make sure i understand everything so that i can do it right
Hi Fedefico, the static timing check point at 2:24 (with the 8mm drill) of the Peugeot 404 is at 11 degrees before TDC. Thus if you set the engine at this position and install the 123, the 123 will be installed at 11 degrees before TDC, which is the recommended static timing point.
Hi Eduardo, it depends: do you want one with standard predefined curves (Switch model) or for example with Bluetooth so you can program your own curve in it and see real time data (Tune+ model)? You can find the models here and select on Tune+ (Bluetooth), Tune (USB) or Switch (predefined curves), right angle cap or straight etc: 123ignition.com/products/?filter_brand=citroen&filter_cylinders=4 For ordering, please see our dealers: 123ignition.com/dealers/
Hi Dave, we have updated our FAQ and added an "RVI modification" document. You can try that one out. Please see the "will my tachometer work with the 123" question.
Hi, if you have a 123\Tune(+) or 123-pos, you indeed have a blue wire. The blue wire is the ground (power supply negative) and needs to go to either your chassis (if your chassis is connected to your battery negative terminal) or you can connect it directly to your battery negative terminal.
Beste Johan, De gedemonstreerde Peugeot 404 heeft twee gaten: één voor bodenste dode punt en één voor statische afstelpunt (aantal graden voor bovenste dode punt). Wij installeren de 123 op het statische afstelpunt. Dit testen we met de 8mm boor. Zodra je kunt voelen dat de 8mm boor in een gat/kuil kan vallen, weet je dat het vliegwiel precies op het statische afstelpunt staat. Indien je dit niet voelt, moet je nog een beetje heen en weer bewegen met de slinger totdat je merkt dat deze er wel in kan vallen. De spil kun je direct weer weghalen, want het was alleen nodig om te voelen of het vliegwiel goed staat. Nu kun je de 123 installeren.
Hi Eduardo, This installation video is a general video of how most installations work. The steps are always the same. The only thing which can differ from car to car is finding the static timing point. Sometimes this static timing point can be found as a mark visible on your flywheel or as in the video, you can find it for the Peugeot 404 with a pin in a groove.
@@eduardorubio5711 Hi Eduardo, some Citroën DS have degrees written on the camshaft pulley. If yours does not have it, then you can still find Top Dead Center (TDC: 0 degrees) by getting the sparkplug out of cylinder 1. Put the engine in a higher gear and pull/push the car until the piston of cylinder 1 is at the top. Note that this can be either TDC compression stroke or TDC exhaust stroke. You want the TDC compression stroke of course. To determine if you want to determine if your engine is at the correct stroke: you can put a rubber hose on cylinder 1 and apply air pressure with your mouth. If you notice a lot of resistance, then you have the compression stroke. If not, push/pull the car until the piston is again at TDC, but the other stroke (compression). When you have found compression TDC (compression stroke), make a mark on the pulley, as we also do in the video. If you have problems finding TDC, please contact a garage specialized in classic Citroën cars.
Very clear and useful video😊
Happy to hear, have fun with your classic car and the 123!
@@123ignitionchannel I'm on my 4th 123, I really rate them! The only issue I have is I dont seem to be able to make make adjustments on the fly even though its the tune version that i have. I have to power cycle the dist to get the android app to download the change.
Excellent video. Thank you!
Very well presented, thank you.
Thank you so much for this tutorial. Since I have a 404 myself I'm looking forward to installing the ignition within the next days!
Hi Christian,
Happy to hear this tutorial helps.
If there are any questions, just let us know.
@@123ignitionchannel That's very kind and good to know - since my car has the XC/ engine, things might be a bit different! Just received my parcel with the components directly from the NL! Looking forward to starting with the conversion.
Fantastic thank you!
Your have distributor for Citroën 1931 C6 with 6 cyl ?
9:12 - so inside the guts of the 123, is the vacuum advance a mechanical system, or purely electronic? This item is one of my potential purchases for a classic Mini.
Hi! The vacuum system is fully electronic. Inside of the 123ignition is a vacuum sensor which translates the vacuum/boost pressure directly to a digital signal.
Hello, a quick question. In the video you say the ignition needs to be set at 11 degrees btdc, so why do you set the distributor at tdc? I'm sorry, i got myself one of your great distributor and before i mount it i want to make sure i understand everything so that i can do it right
Hi Fedefico, the static timing check point at 2:24 (with the 8mm drill) of the Peugeot 404 is at 11 degrees before TDC. Thus if you set the engine at this position and install the 123, the 123 will be installed at 11 degrees before TDC, which is the recommended static timing point.
Ok, now i understand. Thank you for your quick answer and explanation. Best regards
Which distributor model should I buy for the Citroën id/ds?
Hi Eduardo, it depends: do you want one with standard predefined curves (Switch model) or for example with Bluetooth so you can program your own curve in it and see real time data (Tune+ model)? You can find the models here and select on Tune+ (Bluetooth), Tune (USB) or Switch (predefined curves), right angle cap or straight etc: 123ignition.com/products/?filter_brand=citroen&filter_cylinders=4
For ordering, please see our dealers: 123ignition.com/dealers/
Looking for one for a 1979 alfa romeo spider and went onto the 123 site and it shows 6 different one?
I'm having trouble getitng this to work with a smiths Rev counter. I sent the rev counter off to be modified but do you have a wiring diagram?
Hi Dave, we have updated our FAQ and added an "RVI modification" document. You can try that one out. Please see the "will my tachometer work with the 123" question.
I have a blue wire on the 123 I just purchased for vw 73 VW Beetle! Where does that go?
Hi, if you have a 123\Tune(+) or 123-pos, you indeed have a blue wire. The blue wire is the ground (power supply negative) and needs to go to either your chassis (if your chassis is connected to your battery negative terminal) or you can connect it directly to your battery negative terminal.
Wanneer heeft u de spil verwijderd diameter8mm?
Beste Johan,
De gedemonstreerde Peugeot 404 heeft twee gaten: één voor bodenste dode punt en één voor statische afstelpunt (aantal graden voor bovenste dode punt). Wij installeren de 123 op het statische afstelpunt. Dit testen we met de 8mm boor. Zodra je kunt voelen dat de 8mm boor in een gat/kuil kan vallen, weet je dat het vliegwiel precies op het statische afstelpunt staat. Indien je dit niet voelt, moet je nog een beetje heen en weer bewegen met de slinger totdat je merkt dat deze er wel in kan vallen.
De spil kun je direct weer weghalen, want het was alleen nodig om te voelen of het vliegwiel goed staat.
Nu kun je de 123 installeren.
@@123ignitionchannel Ok bedankt voor je reactie, had niet begrepen dat de spil niet moest blijven zitten.
Could you please ride one of a Citroën id20? Thank you.
Hi Eduardo,
This installation video is a general video of how most installations work. The steps are always the same. The only thing which can differ from car to car is finding the static timing point. Sometimes this static timing point can be found as a mark visible on your flywheel or as in the video, you can find it for the Peugeot 404 with a pin in a groove.
@@123ignitionchannel I dont have a mark. Thanks a lot .
@@123ignitionchannel Where can I buy it to make it cheaper? Could you tell me a website?
@@eduardorubio5711 Hi Eduardo, some Citroën DS have degrees written on the camshaft pulley.
If yours does not have it, then you can still find Top Dead Center (TDC: 0 degrees) by getting the sparkplug out of cylinder 1. Put the engine in a higher gear and pull/push the car until the piston of cylinder 1 is at the top. Note that this can be either TDC compression stroke or TDC exhaust stroke. You want the TDC compression stroke of course. To determine if you want to determine if your engine is at the correct stroke: you can put a rubber hose on cylinder 1 and apply air pressure with your mouth. If you notice a lot of resistance, then you have the compression stroke. If not, push/pull the car until the piston is again at TDC, but the other stroke (compression).
When you have found compression TDC (compression stroke), make a mark on the pulley, as we also do in the video.
If you have problems finding TDC, please contact a garage specialized in classic Citroën cars.
@@123ignitionchannel Thank You very much.💯🙏