Ultimate Off-Road Vehicles: Mason Motorsports 4WD Trophy Truck
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 มี.ค. 2020
- For just over 50 years off-road racing has been the ultimate proving ground for automotive technology. If it can live through the brutality of off-road racing on road use is a cakewalk. 4 Wheel drive technology has never been able to survive the combination of extreme suspension travel and the unforgiving brutality of the terrain. Now Mason Motorsports has come up with a new platform that combines suspension, portal hubs, differentials, a Dougans big block 8 stack engine and a completely purpose built Mason-Matic trophy truck transmission. 4 Wheel drive trophy trucks have won Laughlin Desert Challenge, Silver State 300, The Tijuana Challenge, Vegas to Reno, Parker 425, King of the Hammers, but now they head to the roughest off-road race of them all “The Great American Off-Road Race” The BFgoodrich Mint 400. If a 4-Wheel drive trophy Truck wins The Mint 400 it changes everything, proving the platform as dominant even at the roughest off-road races. Pay attention, history is about to be made. Either the 4 Wheel drive Mason becomes the weapon of choice or the proven 2 Wheel drive trophy truck platform remains king! It all comes down to the 2020 BFGoodrich Tires Mint 400 - March 3rd - 8th Las Vegas, NV
Directed by The Martelli Brothers
Produced by Mad Media - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
These guys have created the greatest desert racer ever. That is something
2:28 I think it is funny that none of us buy expensive jack stands. We will have $50,000 in tools and equipment, but we all have those same Harbor Freight jack stands. LMAO
Priorities! 😁
The view from the inside hauling A$$ in the desert perfectly shOWCAsed that suspension! Such a RAD Build!
I just found out about this channel and loving all the videos! Best wishes for Offroad Racer! Warm regards from Indonesia 👍🏻👍🏻
Nggk pernah nongol sekarang TH-cam nya..
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I don't know why YT brought me here, but boy am I glad they did! Phenomenal stuff!!
this may be it, the best Chanel ever
I just sort of accidentally discovered how trick these off road trophy trucks are🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯😍😍😍😍😍😍
So cool!!! I always assumed they were just crude hammers; not the cleverly engineered hammer factories they actually are. They’re like clockwork built to take the harshest beating possible.
Wish I lived out west sometimes....I miss riding in the desert and now that I’m old, driving in the desert👍
If you've just discovered....
You've only scratched the surface.
Im a aussie who has loved the Mint and it history since I was a kid.. the baja, the king of hammers dam & mint some the best offroad racing ever..( all start because I race rc cars in 80s ) But Ive always wanted built a truck for the Tatts fink.. this is a race as good as the baja and on equal term with mint. And this style of truck/set up is the fkn bomb!!!! for this race... awesome build 100%!!!!!
Damn, Ricky skipped the audi, the first awd winner.... luckily it was included in the footage....
I was thinking the same thing exactly😂. He probably isn’t a super big student of Rally, we gotta cut him a break. He was one of the all time best motocross racers in the world....and I guess he raced some truck too or something?
@@robertrishel3685 the herbst truggy, look it up its a beast....
1st John Buffum & Audi Quatro and then Rod Millen Mazda RX7. We raced against them in 1980/81 with the 1979 championship winning Fiat 131 Abarth and got our asses handed to us.
I teach automotive / truck transmission technology at the Community and State College levels. Would truly enjoy a video "How it's Made" about your transmission as used in your Trophy Trucks. Happy Adventure Trails to you !!
Great video well put together and very detailed. love it thank you 💯🏁✌🤘
Killer video!! You guys are amazing beautiful pieces!!
The Herbst family were winning in a 4wheel drive trophy truck long before this video was produced.
Robby Gordon has a portal truck too. Heck, I found these videos because I was wondering why people didn’t use portals to get better cv performance... nothing revolutionary. I’ve known about portal hubs since a kid loving h1 hummers.
Wasn't the Herbst truck technically a Class 1 unlimited?
Shark mobile Truggy
Lol
@@jameshisself9324 no the 4wd truck was a tt
They weren't winning in their 4wd they were winning in their 2wd.
itegrity is selling your 1st gen to the competition nice work
That is friggin ART right there......
I have been screaming that portals make a difference. In 03 i was working on a humvee in the army and was shown what they do. It really helps with the travel. Then what has happened with the drivetrain tech before the portals (trans Tcase) is amazing. WE ARE AT ANOTHER LEVEL!! its amazing.
Portal hubs do nothing for wheel travel, the spindle can be whatever size you want. They only used a portal hub so the differential and axleshafts would last longer. Put the gearing in the hub and the differential and axleshafts don't have to carry 100% of the torque load...but it has nothing to do with wheel travel.
@@Skinflaps_Meatslapper the way the geometry works with the axles being offset. It allows more travel without the axles binding up on full compression/drop.
@@justinunderwood5040 4WD spindles and A-arms can be made to put the axleshaft in any position you want between the UCA and LCA. You want the axleshafts to be right next to the UCA? Sure, it can be done easily. You want them right next to the LCA? That's easy too. All it takes is loading programs up in your CNC machine. Literally the only thing a portal axle does in that regard is relocate the wheel centerline further down from the axleshaft. Think about it. Pause the video at 3:42 and look at them. If the wheel came out where the axleshaft was, what difference would that make in travel? None. What difference would it make as far as the axleshaft geometry? None. Because the axleshaft is still in the same place. All it would take to get that exact axleshaft/UCA/LCA geometry with a non-portal spindle is to put the wheel hub where the axleshaft meets the spindle, and that's not a difficult thing to do at all.
Portal hubs are great, you just have to understand that they do nothing for geometry or travel in a trophy truck. They help by getting the torque off the axleshafts. A trophy truck doesn't really benefit from additional clearance, but they provide that as well.
@@Skinflaps_Meatslapper yes bud, what I was meaning is that you can tun a shorter axle (not by much) and lighter axle (if you dare). Its the placement of being lined up over the center of the wheel along with the fact that its less stress on the joints that "allows" a more durable travel with the axle. That is what I meant when I said helps with the travel. The UCA and LCA dictate travel, everything else limits it by many different factors.
But the axle length remains the same whether it's a portal or direct drive, and the placement of where the axle interfaces with the spindle can be done whether you're running portal or direct drive hubs. So, the portal hubs don't change any aspect of the axle's travel or limits thereof. It only changes how much torque the axle needs to transmit.
Mason rocks!!
Just gonna handle the endurance. Any truck can look stunning but let’s see what it can do when that day comes 👍🏻
That’s so sickkkk.👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽 Hope to see you guys at the winners circle ⭕️
Looking forward for 500 , hopes next month 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻. Can’t wait to see this Beast in action “”””
Incredible
Beautiful bad assed machine.
The TRUE SLEEPER
Tbh its the baja 1000 that REALLY tests the durability of your truck
This is amazing would love to be a part of the lifestyle !
Epic
Best trucks in the industry 😎
The G-TR but off road.... wow 🤯❗️
4wd was always the better choice
Great truck
"looking forward to 2020..."
Bryce Menzies is proving that !!!!!! 4X4 is the new wave !!!
no
Haha Menzies sucks
Cool.
Definitely off road is 4WD.. technology used in WRC rally cars is advance as suspension to. Hope experience manufacturers (Toyota, Nissan, Mitsubishi..) came back in this type of racings. Good work 👍
I want to know more about the front differential and v drive or center diff?
So rad
You need this!
Ricky also glossed over the herbst awd truck
Ever considered running electric motors in the front wheels to skip the drive links? Then use the motor as a generator to keep charge. Just an idea.
so it just like a portal axle? just it has arms, ifs.
Portal hubs... MMMmmmmmmmmmm *insert homer Simpson drool face*
"I'm looking forward to 2020 to see what happens."
COVID19: "Hold my beer."
The truck you showed in the beginning ing was a GEISER BUILT truck.
Would they need to make a new class for this truck or would they allow it to race with the 2 wheel drive vehicles?
Steve doesn't drive a Geiser anymore?
Audi changed rally with AWD
I'm COMING DONT HEAR ME THOUGH
Baja 1000?
Man I'm getting old. I hear "The sand car craze..." and I think of the 70's and 80's sand-rails. Here in Oregon they were HUGE. That trans looks an AWFUL lot like a Toyota/Marlin Crawl box/doubler set-up I run in my 1KZ-TE swapped Hilux Surf..
I wish i could design a truck with you. I wanteb to see if my design can not break
Guys I live in Australia MELBOURNE and I want to get into trophy truck driving. How and where can I do it
guys tell me how much such a miracle of technology costs?
i would love to drive that beast. i wish the Dakar had an open class and allowed these
Great truck no doubt but no wins in Baja yet, the mint has long stretches straight, Baja has combination of every terrain in the Offroad book, work on it adapt the beast for BAJA
I think you missed their point about The Mint. Baja may be longer but Mint is tougher. Finish/win Mint and Baja will come.
@@EL-Dude-A-Rino-0.69 It has a ton of rocky stretches and as a result the tire integrity is often the biggest limiting factor. 4WD will determine whether it'll help on tire life more than anything. Baja is just Baja, you can't really compare it to anything else, and until it wins there it'll be considered niche and unproven until a win is made. Also, until a 4WD finishes consecutively in top spots, it won't be the "next big thing" for trophy trucks.
Myself, I'm all for it if they can get the same kind of front travel as 2WD setups, because then an IRS setup would begin to look feasible.
Did it win the mint400?
Like the Audi Quattro for rally
Yes 40 years later ...
Ever heard of Geiser bro’s
I always wondering why not a AWD Trophy truck
Did they win the Mint 400?
WHY DOESN'T THIN HAVE MORE VIEWS
Apple marketers really fucked us creating this format of just dudes sitting down and saying unfinished sentences with dramatic music in the back, just walk around the thing and talk about it
Is this actually mason motorsports?
What about a AUDI ETRON POWERTRAIN TT
The rock bouncer outlaw a backyard mechanic, Built Outlaw, A super bad ass rock bouncer that has changed the game in that sport in my opinion with independent front suspension with Dif locks In a fucken rock bouncer dude, So if he could do that out of his barn I would hope somebody With all the connections With the money with the backing and the equipment and machinery to do it should and could be able to build a super truck in 4 wheel drive or all wheel drive at the very least come on man
Is it awd or 4wd?
awd
Is tomato a fruit or vegetable?
4wd and fruit😎
it's a 4x4
You need to turn up the input volume on this video a little
Guys have been doing this successfully with long travel IFS in King of the hammers for the last 5 years🤷🏻♂️. Look at Shannon Campbell's "dragon slayer".
Not even remotely close to the same shannon only has 18" of travel, the tt probably has 24-26" travel and is way heavier and goes probably 40mph faster.
@@EnglertRacing96 "probably"? What are the specs on this truck BTW?
@@Build-A-Bike it doesn't show on their site yet but their 2wd is 26" front 31" rear. It says they did not compromise on travel for the awd system
@@EnglertRacing96 if that's the case, it's very impressive. Didn't want to sound like a hater. I just feel like Ultra4 kinda paved the way for this new wave of AWD race trucks
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Damn even the bare tubular chassis is identical to my traxxas udr
That one Guy Let’s not forget the Baja Rey. Especially the raptor body.
reaper519 the Baja Rey has a very similar setup but not near the scale suspension the UDR has. Both trucks are super fun to drive tho
That one Guy Oh absolutely. I have both. But you said tube chassis.
Isn't a Honda front wheel drive transmission similar
Kurt Fosberg Those are more considered transaxles. Transmission and differential in one.
Was actually referring to the transmission side of the transaxle rebuilt one in a late 80s prelude it had a clutch pack for each gear set the reverse gear was acuated on a hydraulic powered shift fork that's that funky scrunch noise they make when you put one in park it momentarily engages reverse on its way to park
I build rockets! To take down missles!
The Baja 1000 its the roughest off road race in the world
Next time indépendant rear suspension
Music too loud.
THE HERBST RAN ALL WHEEL DRIVE FOR YEARS......WHY DONT THEY TALK ABOUT THAT?
Let me race for ya. Let me show you what I can do and do for you both in the company and on the dirt. Im selling sweatshirts to get there but a sponsorship would increase the rate in which I could own my own trophy truck.
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I want to buy such a car
6:10 its funny, what he says here is complete nonsense, but I completely understood it.
hiring any drivers anytime soon?
The music kills what is otherwise ground breaking shit.
Ok, I get it…4WD is difficult to build!
put a rear gas engine and 1 electric motor on each front wheel, but make them to fit where the frontal brake disks and calipers live make them regenerative braking, make the rear engine and generator talk to the batt/power module. less moving parts =D
Electric is shit though.
And that stupid smile face says that you show no idea of complex engineering.
Correct me of im wrong... this truck is nothing new, Dakar rally has been running high performance 4x4 cross country racers for years...
Yes you're right, but it s American... so it's badass with lower technology 😁
Disco editing is nothing else more than an energy and time consuming thing. And resultwise that's a big stress factor for the. Viewers like mcdonalds music in the backgroud.