Tim Cook Defends Apple's Encryption Policy
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- Apple CEO Tim Cook explains Apple's encryption and privacy policies, in a discussion with WSJ's Editor-in-Chief Gerard Baker at the Wall Street Journal's technology conference in Laguna Beach, Calif., in October.
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The Gov just needs an excuse to get into peoples phones. I support Apple 100%. Do not sacrifice freedom for security.
Tim cooked him real good.
Thank you Tim Cook.
+Kathy Yoo actually protecting our privacy
Kathy Yoo 4th amendment
Tim has cemented my mind to Apple. Any phone can be as BEST or SHITTY as whatever, But if my Privacy is SECURE, and even the Government can't get in... Then that Device is THE BEST.
Well Done Apple
Yh. Only Apple can hack it. And the iPhone 6 will be COMPLETELY in hackable. They are using a new software team so not even Apple can hack it. That's what I call dedication. And that's also why macs and iOS is the best. Android and Windows can swallow my big dick
+MK-1 Trust me, the government can get into Apple's phones, no problem.
+Johnny English then why all the media rage and court stuff between them? i smell some tinfoil
probE466 Watch a film called Unthinkable and you'll see how easy would be to gain access to Tim's data. If he can beat Khalid Sheikh Mohammed's Ice Bucket Challenge, then I'll believe that he's good at data security.
Johnny English you, the government gets nowhere without us. You fucked up and we won't write software that allows everyone to see and collect data of others. We value privacy very highly and you don't. That's the difference. That's why the people don't like you.
Surrending personal security for collective security is an Orwellian proposition. Im with Apple on this! It feels surreal a corporation is protecting the rights of freedom of its customers.
Anyone else pee on the side of the toilet at night so you don't make any noise?
+Nick's Strength and Power omg I thought I was the only one
This is so random... but I do it.
Always
Never thought I’d see nick on here
Nah obviously I pee in the sink like a real man
I stand firmly with Apple on this one... 🇺🇸
Tim Cook, Apple CEO, American patriot.
+clunkmess Amen!
+Decaying Cantaloupe Everything is made in China nowadays; it's due to lower manufacturing costs. Almost every company does that. Terrorist supporter? Please explain..
+Decaying Cantaloupe Whatever device you used to write this comment, it's most probably made in China or Taiwan.
Cook is totally correct and the interview literally just can't understand his argument.
All hail Apple and Tim Cook!
Tim Cook 2016!
Good job Mr.Cook. You are a great leader of Apple. Keep fighting the good fight for the privacy of the people.
What would Steve jobs have said
+owen wu he will be proud of put tim on his position!
+owen wu "Let Bill give it a try"
+owen wu "Who wants a stylus, YUCK"
We're calling it iFuck -Steve Jobs
ThAtSIt415 lol, that was for the iPhone, not the iPad just so you know.
I believe he is doing the right thing.
Same. Most people do as well
My man, Tim Cook nailed it.
Tim Cook is smart
+Kathy Yoo A CEO of a multi-billion pound/dollar tech company, arguable the largest tech company for over decade, is 'dumb'? Fucking hell, you're a bright one. He probably makes mroe money than you 10 times over. He isn't dumb, he just prefers not to have his customers rights taken away in the name of freedom.
Kathy Yoo This has nothing to do with country you tool. The United States has the worlds most powerful armed forces which you spend over $600 billion per annum on. You think data, that the FBI most likely already have, is a major threat to the US?
Hahaha, yeah right. This is about the United States Government having the ability to check in on anyone who uses an Iphone, as well as potentially leaving a massive door way for hackers to reap all over bank and PayPal accounts. What the fuck is a country without the people who populate it?
If you're so ready to lie down and be a bitch in the name of 'freedom' which is being taken away from you by this, then no wonder you think he's an idiot.
You're a typical example of someone who has no idea what they're talking about, in this case technology and law, and formulating a hardocre pro-nation opinion.
The FBI had the information, they told a Police Dept to cause the phone to lock itself. Now they want backdoor acess to the Operating System of the Iphone to get it, do you know what that means? No, you don't.
Shut the fuck up Katy ya slag, I'm all for being patriotic and shit but now isn't the time to be a turd.
Kathy Yoo Someone can't read, fucking moron. I didn't say the US government wanted my bank account, or anyones, I was saying that hackers would use the backdoor on the iOS to get bank details of millions of people.
Understand now? I have a feeling you don't have a very good job based on your shit English skills, so I'm pretty sure everyone earns more than you hahahaha XD
+Kathy Yoo -- Of course they can get your bank account. But there may be other data stored on one's phone they cannot get. But Cook's point is that once this backdoor technology is created, it won't only be government that uses it, but also identity thieves, to whom your bank account number is not so readily available.
+Kathy Yoo Haha 200k Yens perhaps. You sound very dumb and ignorant of what this debate is all about.
Way to go Tim! As a famous person who helped to right the Constitution said "Those who are willing sacrifice their rights for a little security will soon have, or deserve, either."
words of wisdom from Ben
Yeah and the actual quote was "liberty instead of "security". I was a little off.
TIM COOK FOR PRESIDENT! F*** the government. #Respect #Apple #NewWorld
i agree with you
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin This extends equally to our second amendment, I wish all liberals would think this way....
Well, I think Apple has the right to defend themselves. They should NOT open this back door to the iPhone's encryption.
+Kent Sextro You should probably look into the origin of that quote, because you're not understanding what Franklin actually said and have entirely mischaracterized his own position and intent by doing so. You're far from the only one who makes that mistake. Every Libertarian under the sun makes that same mistake.
babybirdhome One can argue whether the statement is or isn't out of context; if it was said very literally directed towards a specific event, does that mean it does not hold true to any other aspects?? The founding fathers had specified the role of our federal government, and the role of our states, check Article I Section 8. There's no arguing the overreach of our federal government.
Cook is a stand up guy; he realizes that even good governments tend to devolve into police states; big brother will take over if good men do nothing.
"Privacy is important, and it is a key value of our company.... our view is that you can have both security and privacy; I don't want to read your e-mail or texts." Tim is awesome, and this is precisely why I switched over to Apple. I'm not obsessive-compulsive, but I can't stand any company digging into my family's personal information. The assumptions that 'I have nothing to hide' and 'I'm not that important' are not sufficient enough for me to stomach the conclusion that a certain company will pry into my life if I use their (free) services. So avoid them, right? Precisely. Now that is about using great services, which I don't believe should require the companies that offer them to take something with their other hands; believe me, they can afford to offer free services without selling aggregate data. What of security and the rise of a Fichtean state? And this is where Tim nailed it philosophically and practically: "I don't think you have to pick between either security or privacy." Cheers, Tim.
I believe in Tim Cook
Tim Cook is right , smart and has a deep insight in how to deal with software.
I was always fond of Apple products. Not just for their quality and the design and efficiency. Also for their customer centricity. I am working as a security consultant and I always wanted to see privacy equally handled like security and usability. So I was not surprised on that statement. What surprises me more is that Tim was able to withstand the arguments of Gerard Baker. This interview is now more than 4 years old. The latest statement from Tim last week aimed at social networks that drains customers of their data and make them a product shows how significant this topic was and still is. I hope that more companies will learn how important it is to keep freedom of your own data within your own boundaries.
This is why I buy from Apple, thank you for standing up for what’s right
I really appreciate the stand Tim has made against assholes who want to compromise our security for perceived "safety". Thanks Tim! Keep it up!
"no I don't agree, I don't agree..." love that bit from Tim Cook. And the host has a simple and old-school brain
I agree with Tim Cook's view. The interviewer had too many assumptions of a totalitarian society.
Should Apple allow backdoor access into its phones, the Apple stock would tank massively and customers would leave the brand in droves.
As much hate that I have for Apple, I support them in this 100%. And there's a much easier solution:
On a case-by-case basis when something like this happens, send the phone to Apple to have them remove the brute-force security protection that erases the phone data after X amount of failed attempts, extract the needed data, reapply the security, and send the phone back. The password/pin/pattern or whatever the perpetrator used would not be that hard to brute-force with a supercomputer, but the AES-256 encrypted data itself would be impossible. If it starts happening a lot and using their resources, let them write it off on taxes or something. Every tech company, whether they want to admit it or not, has proprietary utilities to do things like this. And even if they don't, they should be able to reverse engineer it since they have all the source code. It's the most fair compromise, Apple shouldn't have to allow a HUGE security hole in their proprietary software, compromising the privacy of millions of users. There's no reason why they should have to do this for EVERY phone! And if the FBI doesn't want to send them something that's "evidence," then I guess they can just suck a fat one.
Mr. Cook is brilliant, and my family and I (a 10-year Apple customer) support him 100%. He needs to say NO to the FBI.
What Tim is saying, is that privacy is something that should not be compromised for the sake of security. Because it is just as important if anything, a factor for security. The government should be smart enough to prevent a terrorist without subject to mere exploitation of data
- Tim never budge an inch. Ever! We are all with you.
this is really good for Apple. Bravo to Tim Cook whether he truly believes in encryption or not
Thanks Tim Cook for understanding that saying no is the best route
there were only 73,452 flashes from the photographers. I wanted more. It was so relaxing to my eyes.
What is privacy? It's the freedom to be yourself. It's the highest level of freedom, higher than freedom of speech and expression.
It’s crazy good how he held his own and articulated his point.. Stands true till today and I’m sure for decades to come. Great job Tim 🍎
It’s kind of incredible that a trillion dollar company is sticking up for our privacy and not giving in to peer pressure. They’re standing up for what they believe in.
I agree with him when he said you don't have to choose between either Security and privacy. It's stupid to choose between them, you need both otherwise it's pointless
When you piss off Tim Cook 😂
I recently concluded my Apple Fanboy phase after realising the reality of the world and the tech industry, and what ive learnt over the past 2 years of using Apple products is this:
- we can compare OS vs OS all day
- we can talk about convenient features all day
- we can judge others for what brand they use
But regardless of who you are or what phone you use, Privacy is a human right and thats why I’m sticking with Apple…. I hope the rest of the market follows.
Seriously, is that the quality of WSJ's Editor-in-Chief? Justifying an argument by referencing the old defunct Communist Soviet Union? Tim Cook is being too nice in this interview. Steve Jobs would have effed the bugger upside down.
"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain security, will deserve neither and lose both." -Benjamin Franklin
whats with the red socks?
Well said Tim!
the public agree with you tim cook we are on your side privacy is a must !
Nice explanation by Tim, I believe that Apple is doing right...
I agree with Tim.
I don't get it. Just unlock the phone inhouse and give it back. / Also, if the phone is wiped after too many attempts, what's the point in trying to unlock it?
To J Mordeth, an iPhone is no different than a house or your vehicle when it comes to rules of evidence its just another thing you own and possibly hide evidence of a crime you have commited. The 5th Amendment applies only to an individual not circuit boards and even Bill Gates has said that there's no Justication for Apple's actions. Encryption appears benign, but I will agree when the families of those that died in San Bernardino stand beside Tim Cook and say that the killers iPhone is off limits in the investigation.
those socks...
The entire Apple Company was popular for its, "rebel against the man," attitude from the start. Lets not forget that Steve Jobs himself was the child of a prominent Syrian couple. Maybe the real effect of those roots are just coming to light.
The question is not between the security of society and Apples resistance to that security but between the security of the state vs the security of the individual. Heres the moral question: Which holds a higher position, the state or the individual? Does a free state make individuals free or do free individuals make a free state?
just by saying that you want access to that much you automatically say you want to know where to look for the important stuff first.. WHICH MEANS YOU CANT HAVE A WARRANT
Tim cook we got your back we will rise up govt can kiss my well anyways god bless liberty
Say what you want about Cook, but he owned this interview. Solid point, makes me want to buy an iphone lol.
Thank You Tim Cook for protecting our Constitutional rights against the FBI bullies
Dear WSJ Editor, it's pretty clear you rushed into this interview to cash out without doing your homework. How about they get a backdoor and someone hacks into your phone, I'll see how's that not going to affect you when you will have all your secret journalism contacts revealed out in public. That's just one example and I'm sure you can catch on to many similar scenarios.
completely agree with tim here
Why would Tim Cook not allow the FBI a backdoor? After all he is a backdoor man.
4:37 Tim is best
And the current s8 with iris scanner facial recognition go straight to google nice.
stand tall tim!
could've simplified it as, if u sacrifice liberty for security, you lose both.
I'm very happy with they way that Tim Cook has been handling these interviews especially in the face of non tech-savvy interviewers that want to just paint encryption as evil.
Keep something always private. Dictators must not have power to spy and silence journalists and oppositions.
This is why I admire Apple. Google on the other hand has on numerous occasions exploited customer personal information for money! That’s exactly why most of their services are free, your personal data is not safe and it’s sold off for advertising purposes
You're stupid!
Tim Cook is right about that. Apple don't get money from ads, they sell hardware.
Where can I find the full interview? It's not on wsj.com
Let Tim Cook. He is 100% correct!
Get them Tim
There is no such thing as absolute security, and any authority that tells you they can guarantee it if you give up your rights and freedoms is lying. The best safeguard for harm caused by others is to teach people to think and act independently, to learn to assure their own defense. Surveillance technology achieves the opposite: makes individuals increasingly dependent on, and beholden to, the authority.
Yess
Kiosk is a security system now being used to track passengers on American Airlines.Soon you will see all these machines across the United States
At the airport I was surprised to see a American Airlines employee telling a father of a small child that was clearly scared of the machine to just pick her up to the camera so we can get her picture .The little girl was petrified of the Kiosk machine.The lady from American Airlines harshly said just pick her up so we can get her picture and move things along.I thought this is sickening.I am never traveling with American Airlines.On thee plane the flight attendants were passing out credit card sign up papers for their card.The pilot shut off the movie with a fifteen min. rant about how we should sign up to their credit card.I was disgusted by the devious sign up offer.I will never again will I fly with American Airlines.What is going on with our rights.
The interviewer do not know much about technology, it underestimate what this backdoor can create, hundred and miliion of current iphone and future owner will be at tremendeous risk of having their privacy and security(location, bank account, keys,) being track by hackers,
apple sold hardware and not your information and tim cook deserve our support.
I agree with Tim Cook on the issue of privacy and when he says your device and your data, I paid £619 for my iPhone 6, it comes installed with 31 apps I can't delete? It's my device I paid for it I should have the right to delete the apps, and no I'm not an android fan, nor Apple or Windows or even blackberry.
get em tim!!! stay strong
he's powerful...
Cook every day thing of you so much better now than ever
If you don't know about encryption, security procedures, and how Apple uses TOTAL LOCKDOWN to ensure their devices are ABSOLUTELY the best, totally trusted and rarely compromised (if ever), you do NOT have a valid opinion on this.
"could've known" we do know that information cannot be processed at this rate and problems are solved elsewhere
So, to F.B.I is no no. However C.I.A is a yes yes?..Don't get me wrong. I think it's cool that they are publicly showing their customer service is hard as steel but it's what's not being shown/said that we should be concerned about. Let's not be idiots. There's no privacy confidential in this age. They use our information for gains $$$.
it seems like he is more concerned about abusing the back door entry for vested interests..that is a valid concern..
I am still on the fence about apple and don't know if I like them or not, but I definitely gained a lot of respect for Tim Cook after watching this.
like hardware wise
Tim Cook for President!
where can i see the complete video?
thankyou
Watching this video on my iPhone 4S in 2020 😂
Thank you Tim
You tell him TIM, that guy was on another planet, and you are well correct
I just love Tim.
Compromising privacy enables the so called good guys...
Tim Cook is on point!
I agree with Tim Cook 100%. GO APPLE!!!👍
I have never like apple products particularly, but this makes me want to support them.
A backdoor won't stop terrorism, determined attackers will avoid detection by using different means of communication.
I agree with you Tim Cook
Well unc0ver found the backdoor lol
Tim Cook is my Idol and I think he is doing the right thing