Hey man sorry to see your having so much trouble with the NewHolland. At least your the right guy to fix it. Be so satisfying for you when it's fixed. All the best from Scotland.
Guy you need to pour yourself a 12 ft x 18 ft concrete pad with a carport tight roof over the top of it so you’ll have a nice little smooth place to work on your tractors or equipment and stay out of the rain and the snow. Could maybe run power and air lines to the slab so you could be able to blow every off thing and have power for lights and power equipment. Maybe put side walls with glass panels on two sides to keep the weather out.
Guy, your troubleshooting skills never cease to amaze me. I enjoy turning wrenches myself as a hobby, but my knowledge ends on anything built past 1985. I really enjoy your videos andI wish that I lived closer (I am in Virginia) to give you a hand from time to time. Jeff R. From GTT....
Yes, electrical issues can be a nightmare! Glad you found it relatively easily. It is too bad the newer stuff has so many wires, it's great while it works but when it fails watch out.
From the videos I've been watching, you are more than capable to fix anything that comes up. Only you know if you did the right thing by buying the tractor sight unseen. Your positive attitude is refreshing.
man I feel bad for you going through all this with this tractor. its not easy to buy a tractor these days you never know what your getting or what you may be in for. I hope you get the bugs out and it gives you many years of trouble free service.
I have just rebuild a 2010 Claas Arion 510, has a premium JD engine 4045 PowerTech 115HP common rail, had hole in the radiator, now runs perfect, I am impressed with this tractor there is about 300mm clearance between cab and entire length of transmission, so plenty of room to fix things and wash the dirt off everything, best tractor I have ever driven, looking at your NH the build quality is something to be desired.
Congrats, and nice job! You are truly a wizard! I'm amazed at how unprotected some of that wiring and piping is. Especially when it's so critical to the operation of the equipment!
that tractor looks pretty clean , even the seat looks origional, if it came at the right money ,with the problems sorted you will have a good machine for reasonable money . keep at it ! chances are that previous owner had no time or knowledge of how to fix the problems . love your videos
Had the same problem with a tractor of mine. Mice got into one of the shifter towers where there was a clutch button on the shifter and the wires were only as bid as a hair (30gauge or smaller) all chewed up.
I would have like for you to have said how long you spent chasing wires before you found the wires that were shorting out to one another. I have done a lot of electrical work over the years, mostly automotive, and the time can be overwhelming that it takes to find the issue. This has only gotten worse in my opinion as more and more sensors have been added. It could be a real pain back when the wiring was pretty simple compared to modern vehicles. Now it is a nightmare as voltage can be anywhere on the chart from 12 volts to very low voltage from a computer. Yes I am old enough that i have chased and found wiring problems with a test light. Those days are gone.
Can you loosen the mounting bolts and start it , then rotate the pump in the slotted holes and rotate it back and forth tell it smoothest,, you know like is old folks used to do on our old time distributor engines , (stall timing )
What a pain, I hope this NH doesn't turn out like that one 7.3 you had that was plagued! Those NH TS tractors were notoriously very good tractors. Best of luck man!
my '97 bobcat 853 has this problem. all the wires for the toggle switches in both joysticks are rubbing against everything causing shorts because the factory never used wire loom to secure them. they're just flopp'en in the wind. dealership told me they don't waist time trying to find the short they just replace it with all new wires. john deere 7000 series tractors were like that with the steering & remote hoses going up to the valve control on the firewall all zip tied together in a big bundle so they all wear against each other. sooooooo hard to get a wrench up in there.
just remenber 3pl is only a one way cylender so it only powers up and requires graverty to go down so they seize easy as here in aus there is very little use for 3pl so usually when we get a tractor and want to use it we are the first from the factory sometimes we get violent enough we wil put the 3pl switch in lower and use thr tele handler to push the arms down a bit of extra grease and they work fine
Reminds me of wiring on old John Deere combine we had - a 65, I think. I agree with others and pad and Carport at the very least for those cold weather repairs, or a pole barn with a furnace. No need if you have a tractor that behaves, but you have a tractor that is well used and needs lots of care to keep it running right. That equals a shop...
Yep! You are right. It took my dad 7 years to earn enough extra cash to put up a machine shed. Then it took two months for my brother and I as older teens to construct it. I remember my dad doing work on the tractors and combines by using tarps to block the cold and snow. Now days space heaters can make the worst jobs tolerable in the worst winters. And we farmed in Northern Alberta, so it was cold...
I bet the seller was delighted to see it go 1400 miles away. Not a tractor you'd like a neighbour to buy! Good tractor when you get it sorted. Nigel in Ireland.
Hopefully your wiring issue is that alone. In ways, I wonder if there is a wiring issue controlling your valves for the 3pt lift and lower that have the same problem. At least it didn't get to fuse burning level. In ways I would have like to have gotten a brief description on how you found the wires. Testing sections of harness at connectors or just visual inspection... Helps jog the mind how to approach similar issues on my own projects. Thanks for sharing what you have done so far and looking forward to the upcoming injection pump timing video. Quick question, likelihood of being able to change a seal where the throttle linkage shaft enters the injection pump without messing something else up? Old Kubota.
Try to push down on the three point lift arms with another loader. I've had the same issue with the three point on an mxu 110. Something in the valve must stick and after it works a few times it will lossen up. Good luck
Ya that electrical kinda sucks, id say check the connections and clean it off before you begin. Does it have a forward and reverse direction sensor? Or just like a neutral safety switch.
Guy , Do you feel cheated on tractor deal. Next you'll find saw dust in the rear end.......Someone said bad maintenance, but on an 8000 hr tractor stuff just wore out and owner said it was time to go. I guess put some weight on 3 point and see if it goes down.
I hope that's the end of your problems as soon as you get that stuff done. I'm talking about the tractor...but it is for whatever else too, then it's all good.
Hey Guy, we have the same tractor and are having a similar issue and trying to track it down. It began with the shifter hopping through gears intermittently while showing it was in the gear selected and steadily got worse where it was hard to do any work with it. Usually goes up into a higher gear than what is needed for the task at hand. Then it became hard to start at the key switch and had to fiddle with the direction switch and steering wheel to start. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't. Lights on the dash- 4x4 shows always being on and temp stopped working. Then we tried the Pto... And now that doesn't work. traced wires, checked grounds, fuses, etc. Everything SEEMS to be okay. So then we tried another instrument cluster/dash with the same result. Just put on a new alternator per the dealers suggestion. Same outcome. We're beating our heads against the wall. Thinking maybe the ECU/ECM? Any advice? Thanks
The timing is indeed hard to set on that application. When setting the engine up to be timed turn the engine in Direction of Rotation to eliminate any slack in the gear train. The tool to time the injection pump is virtually the same as the old VW diesel. Personally I would mark the IP housing and just advance the timing by moving the pump just a few degrees and tighten the pump down and try it out. Don't do it running! Most factory specs for timing are set on the retarded side for emissions, bumping the timing up will help. Need to hear the engine running.
Your positive outlook likely brings you the small amount of luck needed to get problems solved quickly; the rest is skill and alertness to what's irregular....!
form what he said in pervious videos it was at a dairy farm, and it seems like it was mistreated, and didn't have proper maintenance, most likely why it was sold on the internet and not in person lol
there must be a kabel on de right side of the hitch cover under the rockerarm. the kabel is atachts to a springloaded lever. if the kabel is loose or broken your hitch is in the rise-function.
Wish you were my neighbour, I'm building a big boy shop and you have more skill than I do, I do recommend that you hire a Buddhist monk to cleanse and bless that machine, honestly did the previous owner put a curse on it?
Hey Guy in WY, if thats an electrohydrualic shuttle, check your clutch solenoids. on our tractor we had a similar problem where the tractor would drop into neutral and throw an error code. we had a faulty clutch pedal solenoid which was causing the problem. maybe worth a shot.
I will give you my best advice. Deliver it back to the sender. And claim your money back. Such tractors will never be good. But I hope you can do it ...
Hey guys, lots of comments on this video. Y'all rock! Because there are so many I'm going to answer them on a live stream tonight or tomorrow.
İf you buy a newholland tractor. You will have lot of problem.
Good to see it up and running. It is satisfying when you finally locate the problems and fix them.
Hey man sorry to see your having so much trouble with the NewHolland. At least your the right guy to fix it. Be so satisfying for you when it's fixed. All the best from Scotland.
Guy you need to pour yourself a 12 ft x 18 ft concrete pad with a carport tight roof over the top of it so you’ll have a nice little smooth place to work on your tractors or equipment and stay out of the rain and the snow.
Could maybe run power and air lines to the slab so you could be able to blow every off thing and have power for lights and power equipment. Maybe put side walls with glass panels on two sides to keep the weather out.
Guy, your troubleshooting skills never cease to amaze me. I enjoy turning wrenches myself as a hobby, but my knowledge ends on anything built past 1985. I really enjoy your videos andI wish that I lived closer (I am in Virginia) to give you a hand from time to time. Jeff R. From GTT....
dang your patient i would have lost my mind over all the problems on that machine great video
Yes, electrical issues can be a nightmare! Glad you found it relatively easily. It is too bad the newer stuff has so many wires, it's great while it works but when it fails watch out.
Great video your troubleshooting skills are impressive. Looking forward to your next post. Thanks again for taking us along.
From the videos I've been watching, you are more than capable to fix anything that comes up. Only you know if you did the right thing by buying the tractor sight unseen. Your positive attitude is refreshing.
man I feel bad for you going through all this with this tractor. its not easy to buy a tractor these days you never know what your getting or what you may be in for. I hope you get the bugs out and it gives you many years of trouble free service.
I have just rebuild a 2010 Claas Arion 510, has a premium JD engine 4045 PowerTech 115HP common rail, had hole in the radiator, now runs perfect, I am impressed with this tractor there is about 300mm clearance between cab and entire length of transmission, so plenty of room to fix things and wash the dirt off everything, best tractor I have ever driven, looking at your NH the build quality is something to be desired.
Guy you are the coolest bloke I have ever came across cos if I had bought that tractor I would be in an asylum by now , great video
Congrats, and nice job! You are truly a wizard! I'm amazed at how unprotected some of that wiring and piping is. Especially when it's so critical to the operation of the equipment!
I used to time diesels using the spill method but now I find it works just as well to time by ear, I just tweak the pump until it sounds right.
Ones you fix the problems that was caused by bad maintenance you will have a great tractor
that tractor looks pretty clean , even the seat looks origional, if it came at the right money ,with the problems sorted you will have a good machine for reasonable money .
keep at it ! chances are that previous owner had no time or knowledge of how to fix the problems . love your videos
Good job troubleshooting your electrical problem. I hope the rest of your problems are easy to repair.
Had the same problem with a tractor of mine. Mice got into one of the shifter towers where there was a clutch button on the shifter and the wires were only as bid as a hair (30gauge or smaller) all chewed up.
I would have like for you to have said how long you spent chasing wires before you found the wires that were shorting out to one another.
I have done a lot of electrical work over the years, mostly automotive, and the time can be overwhelming that it takes to find the issue. This has only gotten worse in my opinion as more and more sensors have been added. It could be a real pain back when the wiring was pretty simple compared to modern vehicles. Now it is a nightmare as voltage can be anywhere on the chart from 12 volts to very low voltage from a computer.
Yes I am old enough that i have chased and found wiring problems with a test light. Those days are gone.
Can you loosen the mounting bolts and start it , then rotate the pump in the slotted holes and rotate it back and forth tell it smoothest,, you know like is old folks used to do on our old time distributor engines , (stall timing )
Love the videos, very informative. You'd make a great teacher. Hope you're close to having it fully sorted.
Glad you got it moving,chasing electrical gremlins is no fun. Looking forward to your next video.
Great video! Your agricultural engineering knowledge is superb!
What a pain, I hope this NH doesn't turn out like that one 7.3 you had that was plagued! Those NH TS tractors were notoriously very good tractors. Best of luck man!
My lift arms would not go down on my ts115a the helping cylinders was rusted in side the dealer rebuilt them both works fine now
I’m betting you have a rub through somewhere in the wiring harness, you will likely find the 3pt hitch issue at the same time.
Great job Guy, you are an excellent mechanic. I hope it all goes well for you.
my '97 bobcat 853 has this problem. all the wires for the toggle switches in both joysticks are rubbing against everything causing shorts because the factory never used wire loom to secure them. they're just flopp'en in the wind. dealership told me they don't waist time trying to find the short they just replace it with all new wires. john deere 7000 series tractors were like that with the steering & remote hoses going up to the valve control on the firewall all zip tied together in a big bundle so they all wear against each other. sooooooo hard to get a wrench up in there.
just remenber 3pl is only a one way cylender
so it only powers up and requires graverty to go down
so they seize easy as
here in aus there is very little use for 3pl
so usually when we get a tractor and want to use it we are the first from the factory
sometimes we get violent enough we wil put the 3pl switch in lower and use thr tele handler to push the arms down
a bit of extra grease and they work fine
We have a ts 115a and its plow arms stoped working. We pulled them all to bits and it was pins that had just scessed. Hope you have better luck
Reminds me of wiring on old John Deere combine we had - a 65, I think. I agree with others and pad and Carport at the very least for those cold weather repairs, or a pole barn with a furnace. No need if you have a tractor that behaves, but you have a tractor that is well used and needs lots of care to keep it running right. That equals a shop...
+Michael Chugg one thing at a time.
Yep! You are right. It took my dad 7 years to earn enough extra cash to put up a machine shed. Then it took two months for my brother and I as older teens to construct it. I remember my dad doing work on the tractors and combines by using tarps to block the cold and snow. Now days space heaters can make the worst jobs tolerable in the worst winters. And we farmed in Northern Alberta, so it was cold...
I bet the seller was delighted to see it go 1400 miles away. Not a tractor you'd like a neighbour to buy!
Good tractor when you get it sorted. Nigel in Ireland.
Hopefully your wiring issue is that alone. In ways, I wonder if there is a wiring issue controlling your valves for the 3pt lift and lower that have the same problem. At least it didn't get to fuse burning level. In ways I would have like to have gotten a brief description on how you found the wires. Testing sections of harness at connectors or just visual inspection... Helps jog the mind how to approach similar issues on my own projects. Thanks for sharing what you have done so far and looking forward to the upcoming injection pump timing video.
Quick question, likelihood of being able to change a seal where the throttle linkage shaft enters the injection pump without messing something else up? Old Kubota.
Fair does you have a lot of knowledge and patience! Is it the camera or are the loader bracket bolts loose?
Nice to see the progress, Blake. More later.
Try to push down on the three point lift arms with another loader. I've had the same issue with the three point on an mxu 110. Something in the valve must stick and after it works a few times it will lossen up. Good luck
Sorry you have to go through this mess but thanks for sharing...
Ya that electrical kinda sucks, id say check the connections and clean it off before you begin.
Does it have a forward and reverse direction sensor? Or just like a neutral safety switch.
Good video and you have a lot of mechanical knowledge.
Enjoy your videos. Can't tell I miss the states can you. Tagbilaran, Philippines
I have the same and more problems with backhoe with wiring no fun tracing out stuff a manual is a great help though
When the gear issue happened to me it was the clutch switch.
So i was right, the timing should be compensated for the wear from the 8.000+ hours running.
Wish you succes, you will cope this problem i am sure.
For your wiring there is a sort of varnish/glue which can be used to seal the damaged wires from corrosion. Much better than tape.
Id be using shrink tube with the intigrated glue in it that seals it all.
I use it on all solder connections
Me too, but when only the isolation is damaged one can use the varnish/glue type.
You know what the Blue tractor said to the Green tractor?
You make me Green with envy!
Just curious if the lever actually would move. We have one that wont move forward and if you let up the clutch it actually moves in reverse!
That tractor would cause me a divorce lol. But those 115s are nice handling tractors. You will get it no doubt
on a roosa-master pump there is a little cover on side of pump and you remove and line up the two marks
Guy , Do you feel cheated on tractor deal. Next you'll find saw dust in the rear end.......Someone said bad maintenance, but on an 8000 hr tractor stuff just wore out and owner said it was time to go. I guess put some weight on 3 point and see if it goes down.
Hey guy. Are you willing to share the cost of that tractor. Just curious because it looks like after all the headaches it will be a good investment
geez, this tractor is more truble than good... i hope you can get that pump fixed asap, and don't counter anymore troubles.... :) cheers
because maintenance has nothing to do with anything lmao,
I hope that's the end of your problems as soon as you get that stuff done. I'm talking about the tractor...but it is for whatever else too, then it's all good.
Only good thing this tractor has is you taking care of it.
For my tractor the 3 point hitch wasn't lowering because of a sensor which monitors hitch height. I don't have New Holland but Fendt.
Hey Guy, we have the same tractor and are having a similar issue and trying to track it down. It began with the shifter hopping through gears intermittently while showing it was in the gear selected and steadily got worse where it was hard to do any work with it. Usually goes up into a higher gear than what is needed for the task at hand. Then it became hard to start at the key switch and had to fiddle with the direction switch and steering wheel to start. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't. Lights on the dash- 4x4 shows always being on and temp stopped working. Then we tried the Pto... And now that doesn't work. traced wires, checked grounds, fuses, etc. Everything SEEMS to be okay. So then we tried another instrument cluster/dash with the same result. Just put on a new alternator per the dealers suggestion. Same outcome. We're beating our heads against the wall. Thinking maybe the ECU/ECM? Any advice? Thanks
F-R switch give those type of problem
Q paso con el problema q se lenpasaba el diesel al aceite del motor lo solucionaron?
Your one smart cookie mate!!
i timed my allis-chalmers diesel 14 degrees before tdc, the marks were on the front pulley
As resourceful and talented as you are, is this tractor really worth your time with all it's issues?
ATTA BOY GREAT JOB
I'm liking my Allis Chalmers WD45 more and more. :)
you make great videos ! i have never liked the new holland tractors they have too many issues .
The timing is indeed hard to set on that application. When setting the engine up to be timed turn the engine in Direction of Rotation to eliminate any slack in the gear train. The tool to time the injection pump is virtually the same as the old VW diesel. Personally I would mark the IP housing and just advance the timing by moving the pump just a few degrees and tighten the pump down and try it out. Don't do it running! Most factory specs for timing are set on the retarded side for emissions, bumping the timing up will help. Need to hear the engine running.
Dang this deal of a tractor is tuning into a maintenance nightmare!
Your positive outlook likely brings you the small amount of luck needed to get problems solved quickly; the rest is skill and alertness to what's irregular....!
+emil dekoven thank you!
That electrical wiring was causing the problems ??
Guy was that tractor a dairy farm tractor at one time or do you know its life history?
form what he said in pervious videos it was at a dairy farm, and it seems like it was mistreated, and didn't have proper maintenance, most likely why it was sold on the internet and not in person lol
Sounds like a loose valve seat or to many washers under an injector or a bad delivery valve in the injection pump.
looks like a good start on the blue NH has a ton of issues
Banjo Benson nop run blue and never had problems will them
Just for grins and giggles > any chance two injector lines have been crossed up?
Negative, first thing I checked.
seat switch most likely the wires are chewed by seat moving up and down
FIAT - Fix It Again Time
Electrical problems are the hardest to find but the easiest to fix. Air is the opposite.
Its gonna bi as new😊
what kind of hitch is on the tractor mech. ore elektric
if it's mech it has lift'o'matic. if it's not correctly adjusted or de kabel is broken it won't lower
+Hanno Rademaker mechanical.
there must be a kabel on de right side of the hitch cover under the rockerarm. the kabel is atachts to a springloaded lever. if the kabel is loose or broken your hitch is in the rise-function.
Did they leave that tractor in flood waters.
whe had ah tm 165 newholland and the metering valfe broke and that was the reason id wont move
Wish you were my neighbour, I'm building a big boy shop and you have more skill than I do, I do recommend that you hire a Buddhist monk to cleanse and bless that machine, honestly did the previous owner put a curse on it?
just time it by doing a spill time on the injector pump
good job
ya got a multi meter and know how to use it,,, if so just check those solenoids and switches instead of guessing
modern electrical systems mean most equipment will go to the junkyard because of bad wiring and other electrical problems.
Hey Guy in WY, if thats an electrohydrualic shuttle, check your clutch solenoids. on our tractor we had a similar problem where the tractor would drop into neutral and throw an error code. we had a faulty clutch pedal solenoid which was causing the problem. maybe worth a shot.
darn it! wrote before watching to the end, good on you for finding the short
How many horsepower??
Spec is 115 engine, 95 PTO.
Thanks
Doesn't sound too bad timing is not far off
I will give you my best advice. Deliver it back to the sender. And claim your money back. Such tractors will never be good. But I hope you can do it ...
Toggle switch time. LoL