Ep 17 - Sanding and Stain Tests - Making a Modern Multi-Scale Electro Acoustic Guitar
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- Welcome to Crimson Guitars th-cam.com/users/CrimsonC... and Ben’s home workshop where he is currently building the modern multi-scale NEBULA 2.0 Guitar. In this episode, Ben has to sand the guitar in preparation for finish, the episode ends on a fun note with colourful stain tests. What do you think?
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In this series, Ben will be building the new and improved Nebula 2.0 as a custom order. • Making a Modern Multi-... Different from the original, this guitar will be a multi-laminate neck, modern fanned fret, semi-hollow, electro-acoustic beauty. This series should be about 10-12(ish) episodes.
Chapters:
0:00 Introduction and recap
5:04 Sanding and finessing
12:32 Carving with a small Dremel
17:51 Bevels?
23:21 First stain test not too successful
29:43 Ideas for the next steps in the build - though these will be subject to change
33:04 Next episode grain filler and sanding and staining and logos - maybe?
34:44 Conclusion
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Seeing Ben with that Dremel, my brain imagined "dentist with head tattoos". I'm never going to the dentist again.
lol
LoL 😂
I’d be more concerned the dentist using a Dremel than having tattoos :)=
@@apinakapinastorba Well those little hell-tools they use are like small dremels anyways.
Just feed him to your giant sentient venus flytrap.
Congratulations 15 Years is a solid Anniversiary these Days, the Guitar is awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ben's new version of "Head, Shoulders, Knees and Toes" will be out soon for free download. The 'B' side includes a medley of 'I Got Youooo Look, A Squirrel!' 'Angle Vice' and 'The Chicken Song.'
The pencil line under the glue has been my mortal enemy for decades, long before building instruments.
Dude... you were watching/live commenting my video once building Nebula??!! I am in awe 😮😮😮
lol. That I was. I really don't have much time to spare and GGBO vids need watching :) B
@@CrimsonCustomGuitars fantastic 😁 I appreciate the shout out 💙
Ben. Here’s an idea. Give each maples skunk a colour and then as I hits the body make it look like if floods out like 3 rivers hitting a delta. On the front it would mirror the back like it over flows like a waterfall from back to front
I love this idea
One thing that popped into my head when I seen the gold metallic stain was, what if, you where to have the black stain like you are planning to, but in some spots not to often have some of the gold highlighting the grain some more and then have your other stains over that, might give a star like effect or might not work at all
I would think about a tiny bit of a round over of the edges of the body. Just to break the sharp edge without risking the structural integrity
How anyone could ever dislike any of Crimson's videos is beyond me SMH.
That’s not coffee you are drinking, it’s a coffee flavoured milk drink. Love the build.
Ben, your artistry is only surpassed by your personality. Thank you for not only the knowledge but the entertainment.
Man alive Ben, what an amazing realization to have! I can't begin to imagine what that sensation is like, knowing that so many people are hanging on what you're talking about. Good on you for not shrinking under that kind of... Shock really.
Don't stop doing what you're doing. So many people love what you do.
Watching this series on a phone or tablet is so much different than on a larger screen. On the little screen the burled wood has all the definition of MDF. I'm very happy to have the chance to watch them on my TV instead
Happy Anniversary! Color's on this build are going to be interesting to see can't wait to see it completely finished! Definitely would love to hear how it's going to sound!
All the stains soaked into the various parts differently however the darker ones appeared to only mask the grain patterns. Since the pattern is the point of that wood, maybe try more natural colors.
I absolutely LOVE the arm bevel idea... It's the reason why I love looking at high-end Taylor guitars😅
Saw Stabbing Westward in concert in Arizona when I was in college. Haven't listened to them in years. Good recommendation!
The wood is soooooo perfect please keep it simple it is already beautiful
Every time the intro comes through, I'm reminded how very good you look with the working from home, home workshop stuff.... I'm glad you're doing well as COVID has made for an interesting year.
Carving give more details. Awesome build ben..cant wait for this episode to finish
Look at that guitar that's why you have 10s of thousands of us mere mortals watching you because you are a genius ....
Fantastic Ben ,also thank you for your input on my question .
Like I said I can play yet ,but having fun building kits.
Could you grain fill with the metallics and then sand off excess before staining ? Would they show up from underneath the stain ? Great series and greetings from Tasmania, Australia
yes.. I hadn't considered this and love the idea. B
Brilliant idea (I had the same thought) :)
@@CrimsonCustomGuitars That's what I thought you were going to do when you mentioned the grain fillers.
Congratulations to you and your wife on your anniversary!
Also, thanks for another lovely build video, and for reminding me that I love Stabbing Westward! I first saw them in the late 90s in Ann Arbor, Michigan in a little club called The Blind Pig... Tonight it’ll be time to listen through their catalogue again, while doing some fret crowning and dressing!
One idea would be to get some really great painters tape and create a pinstripe of gold, copper, or silver leaf, or a combination of all three and have a really thin stripe of it around the guitar.
Love love LOVE the offset arm bevel! Go for it, the Momentum of the lines is superb that way!
I am in love with this guitar. I know it will turn out magnificent with the blues and blacks and purples, but a very strong part of me wants to see this guitar with just wood color stains, and the holes not filled. Maybe someday we'll see that version made :) Excellent as always. My wife and I are invested. Can't wait to see it completed.
Nice to see hand standing,much better than machines.😎
I love that you bleeped out the first F bomb and left the one at the end in! I'd be terrified to be staining that thing black just in case for some reason it wen't wrong!
I just can't wait to hear how the acoustic sounds in this guitar.
NO “LEAFING”!!!!!!! That pop of burl design with the stain is glorious!!!!
Loving this build so much Ben!!
I think you should cut the very tip of the front and back on the lower horn to match the crevass/gap in the wood and make it look like that whole region has sort of naturally eroded?
And whatever you do with the stains don't hide that insane grain 😍
Congrats mate on your anniversary ! It's 22 years for me and the Mrs. today also !
First of all, happy wedding anniversary, our 15th was last week so here's to 15 more at least for you guys.
Second, I'm biased but I love the green* over that burl, it's very reptile looking and if you ever feel like exploring that theme you would probably have a winner on your hands (as long as you don't call it Anaconda, that's already taken ;)) * (yellow + phtalo blue mix as opposed to straight green)
Third, for that belly cut you won't do anyway, I thought a crescent moon design on that side with the nebula look in the background might look cool. Either with binding, silver leaf or something else, but then you're probably right that the guitar is already complex enough as it is.
Fourth, regarding the coffee / beard oil logo, my preference goes for the 2nd one but either way that's quite reminiscent of Nick Zametti's logo. What about using part of your head tattoo design for this?
No fifth I think, really enjoying the build, just please don't change your mind too often or half the audience playing drinking games when you do that won't survive the end of the month ;)
this wood is so beautiful that it don't need anything else, but the clear colors like the red and the green pops the details of this wood without to turn off this details...
i'm interested to see it with just the red (why not a red color gradient) and a glassy finish to pop all even more 😉 this wood probably deserve so many colors that it's hard to decide which one 😋
I look forward to watching you every Saturday morning with a mug of coffee. Your work is brilliant, as always. You appear appear to be a wonderful combination of artist and mad scientist. Happy Easter to you and yours.
Ben, you have nothing to worry about. Your designs and the way you build ar unique to you as far as I've seen. As I'm watching you create those wonderful instruments I find myself designing one of my own hopefully as unique as those you do regularly. the one I have in my head now is similar to the relish guitar in that it has an aluminum frame with acrylic covers but the neck also has aluminum struts as a base with acrylic covering and a wood fingerboard with stainless frets the typw of wood for the fingerboard doesn't matter as it will be either painted or stained. Or even perhaps cloth covered like a builder we both know.. think a triple-neck built last year...lol yep those guys... in fact my current guitar project is getting a cloth cover finish body and head stock with clear coat..as well as eletronics and hardware upgrades and body and pick guard mods to accommodate those added controls (3 humbuckers with vol and tone for each and coil split. more tricks there too maybe even led's for lighting accents (hint: I'm using clear acrylic sheet for the pick guard an covering it to match the body) for the design in the cloth print I'm using to cover the body the led lights will show through the clear and fabric to enhance the design..nebula print spandex blend all way stretch will conform to the body shape of the guitar..I just need to blend it along the edges of the body feather the paint and add a few spwckles to hide the seam ..Oh yes I've tried to think of everything..maybe I'll miss a thing or two this go-round as it is my very first attempt but I usually get things right the first try if I do my homework. and as a mechanic and adept at woodworking already. I think I have a good chance of doing a good job on this I don't plan on a real start till i get all the parts and materials I need to complete the build.. I'v learned that having all the parts makes it easier to conplete a job once started. missing a part or needed material delays the project in unexpected ways making the finish unknown...to me that is unacceptable at the very least and frustrating at best...the only thing I have done to date is a partial wiring fo the pickups and controls on a prototype extended pick guard getting the pots and switches in approximately the final layout and trying to finalize the spacing and positioning for comfort and usability. a bit of tweaking may be needed to get just right.. as you well know. Good planning is a great start but only goes so far. there's always the small details that take time to sort out..Here I go again motor mouth as always.. even in person and usually worse face to face...i'll and it here and continue later maybe,,lol
This is one of those rare occasions where I can’t help but think I wish I could own that. But there’s no place in my life pretty enough for it to sit in. It would look out of place anywhere. It’s too special. This entire build has been captivating.
You’re a true artist Ben in all senses of the word.
Keith.
Catch you on the flip side - great line from a great film, Boondock Saints. Loving the Submariner, I've mine in the bracelet but might have to change it out for a strap with the nice weather approaching
Coffee logo, B option, always!
And I think the beveled edges (wether you make a wider bevel on the top or not) should be kept natural, should pop out the beautiful contour. Cheers Ben, looking amazing!
Happy anniversary, Ben and spouse!
The best advice to a new climber is "Always maintain three points of contact" So you're quite right there Ben ;)
"Here's how we got here so far....and there ya go! Thanks for tuning in, join us the next time..." Loving this build, Ben! I vote for image B and will suggest (I'm sure you just LOVE non-solicited suggestions) using just your tattoo with the beard. Cheers....
Some of your watchers are actually older (1963) and still enjoy this build massively. You could always become a dentist how you handled the dremel-tool. I am still very curious how this will end ... for sure one of a kind. Yes go for the beveled arm-rest. (it will extend the series :-)), use a contrasting wood, so a quite solid block as it will look great and will make the instrument more natural to play on. And with respect to the staining ..... don't overdo it, this is an instrument with probably one the the nicest burl maple pieces, make sure you show that. I hate guitars that are sprayed with a closing lacquer as underneath there could be MDF. (I am not saying you do that, but as the other end of the spectrum). A nice guitar shows the wood, the whole wood and nothing but the wood s-h-m-g. Fantastic series.
I came back to answer your “how did I get here” question.
Love of the craft. Generosity in sharing info. Faith in allocations the resources to be able to share. Hard work and good planning. And finally we are here to watch you because of your sister.
This is so lush. As with everything, there’s a fine line between crispy and burnt with a healthy sprinkle of everything is subjective.
The wood is so gorgeous, whatever you do its probably going to be a bit bum-wobbly,
true.. such a fine line and so very very scary! B
Don't be afraid Ben. Just because we watch you at least three times a week and know "all" your secrets.
Happy anniversary Ben and Mrs Crowe! :)
Stabbing Westward! An excellent shout, my workshop/shed/garden music all day today. More recommendations please.
The world needs more rainbow colored guitars! I love the look of the test piece.
Also a crimson colored guitar like this with chinese or japanese gold lettering would look incredible.
I like the color test... Looks great! It reminds a PRS Multifoil!!!
I think the natural wood colour along the edges of the guitar body would look amazing and match the neck nicely
Single purfling line like a violin to define the shape. I think that if you are going to gold leaf anything you should do it to the natural opening edges. Sort of like binding on the edge of the F holes on a fancy Jazz guitar. Thank you for all your videos!
Love this build....and the other one. What comes next one is never exactly sure....the excitement.
Happy anniversary and congrats 🎉🎉🎉🥂
I just did some work (rebuiling) on my kitchen and in the process I had to use a jigsaw here and there. What was going through my mind was "Measure, measure, cut" EVERY time. :)
The most beautiful guitar I have ever seen
I've seen them all (I think), and I have to say these two guitars are the most interesting and uniquely beautiful guitars you have ever built IMO. On another note, I noticed the length/width mistake but just figured you had misspoken. Heck, I do it all the time. Loved the Sonny Bono reference. Regards from a SW Florida subscriber.
Turning out to be a really cool instrument!
My suggestion for body binding would be
Stain the body to the nebula finish. Then sand a thin bevel around the body and headstock to the same width as the neck binding and leave both natural under the clear coat.
Maybe paint the inside edge of the voids with gold fill or something similar
I would ve gone, sealer, two light layers of stains with black on the base and some colourless grain filler at the end, then ofc the finish. She is so awesome already you could just go with a filler, an oil and be fantastic!
Don't bevel it, it doesn't need it! It's already thin for an acoustic, and light for an electric, and as you point out very pretty already. Don't spoil it
Happy anniversary Ben!!!!
Looking lovely Ben, great work. No need to gild the lilly.
There were times when I thought you were about to "gild the lily" so to speak. The wood is, and should be the star! I don't think it needs any extra help. As you are intending to grain fill it, wonder if mixing the red and blue grain filler and using that would work (no idea as I've never done it). Oh, and B for me.
It would be nice that at the end of each build you make a 30 min recap video of the full build
they do something like that already usually.
hey, actual music, nice. really makes the difference.
I think having the natural wood as the color of the comfort cut would look awesome! I feel like it’d contrast the crescent moon inlay on the headstock as well as match up with the fretboard binding 😬
So many impressive bits to this guitar! ... personally I think the shape is done and look s great "square" ... no bevils
Hi Ben, enjoyed this episode. I don't think you need accentuate the grain, putting a base coat of black will do the job nicely. I do think that once you've done the final staining of all the colours you should do an edge bevel of maybe 2-3mm on both front and back and lay gold leaf on the bevel before putting on the high gloss topcoat.
Ben just turns around and snatches a tool right from the wall ~ knows exactly what he wants and where it is before he pivots.
A crescent bevel on the front of the guitar would match the crescent in the headstock really well!
@crimson custom guitars, I enjoyed your swearing at the end of the video. Your passion comes out in your voice, why not match the language. Loved this series!
.... I am just about to do my own (first attempt) staining of a swamp Ash Strat hardtail. So hopefully I can pick up some tips and tricks here (and elsewhere).
I’m excited for my shirt wooo, honestly A and B were both really cool but I prefer minimalist designs for the most part so my vote is B
I`d love to see 8 string guitar build by Ben! I think it might be something absolutly special :))
I reckon the arm bevel would be a nice touch another thing to consider is to put something similar to an arm rest that is mounted on like a second pickguard, I think googling "Mary ford Gold top guitar" It better explains it
Happy anniversary and Easter too......
Applying bevelled edges to a hollow body...
Ben, you are delightfully bonkers...
You have these ideas that seem totally insane, then you amaze us all by actually making it work...
it would work quite nicely, though the client decided against it.. the technique is used quite often on the forearm contour of really nice acoustics.. B
@@CrimsonCustomGuitars Since watching this video, I've gone and looked it up. Seems there are luthiers out there who are retro-installing these kind of cutaways into acoustics to order.
my mind is blown by it. I'd have thought it would have required a completely different approach to bracing inside.
having said that, I tend to work with CF a lot for hollow bodies, so I'm far from an expert when it comes to wood acoustics.
You were saying about the inclusions on the wood surface being an issue with ultra gloss… you could combine that problem with your idea about the gold leaf and do a metallic gold primer/putty to fill in the inclusions like the Japanese art of kintsugi? Gets around the issue of absorption of stain too, and pays homage to the wood being beautiful and those ‘imperfections’ not being something to hide.
i love the nebula being purple dominant but there is a picture of a nebula thats red/orange dominant with some gold accents that would look good on that burl!!! :)
I think you have a natural inclination to figure out what's cool!
Happy Anniversary!
For the burl & grain filler: Titanium white. Once you lay down the nebula colors the white will poke through as stars!
Ben, I think the metallic fills have their place but they should be subtle for this build. It’s the burr pattern that’s the star here and you don’t want to distract from it. That being said, however, those metallics could be used for a few strategically placed starbursts through the nebula pattern. You could wait until a sealer coat is applied to determine if any spots need a bit of highlight. Until you start building clear coats you won’t really know how those overlapping stains will interact with each other.
I think the gold looks quite cool, in a sort of Kanji way. I don't think I'd put it all over, but it could look amazing in just one spot, like a signature.
Also I thought the initial green looked fantastic after it was sanded back a bit. I totally get that it may or may not be the right colour for the nebula, but that would look amazing as a top on another beast.
Loving your work as always, Ben!
First we get 3-in-1 shower stuff, now we get 2-in-1 Coffee and Beard Oil, what's next xD
Just a though-
Copper leaf the walls of the "holes". It could lend a bit cosmic flare without being too obvious.
Happy wedding anniversary Ben!! Is guitar is going to be amazingly bite the back of your hand gorgeous. Have a lovely Easter, live chat on Monday?
I use the phrase, "catch you on the flipside," as well, because I believe it is cool. Though I do use it sparingly! Normally in the lead up to some event or public holiday which will interrupt me from seeing that person again until it has passed. But that's just me.
i am very much enjoying this series thank you
I like the B. Guitar is looking amazing Ben. Bravo!
Man, that red over the black is stunning. Think I’ve found the stain for my next build...
hi, hope you are well, as a suggestion, if you already left a natural wood (Birdseye), channel bound neck, give it a proper back and top, natural wood (Birdseye) binding, instead of any bevel that could weaken a delicate wood and structural joint, take care.
Nice t-shirt! Can't wait to get mine.
Man, now I have Stabbing Westward stuck in my head.... I saw them when they toured for Wither, Blister.... off to watch some SW videos 😁
In the words of Edmund Blackadder, we are not at home to Mister Cockup. :) Seriously, though, I love your work and the passion that you bring to your builds. Also, if you doubt whether it's too boring for us to watch you sanding or not, check out Baumgartner Restoration. We literally spend minutes at a time watching paintings being cleaned and various bits of frames and stretchers being cleaned, repaired, or re-engineered. There is nothing wrong with some meditative viewing of someone sanding a guitar.
absolutely wonderful guitar