Lithium Batteries for Car Audio? Yinlong LTO Cells LTO66160H 8000 watt capable Battery Bank [4K]

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  • #Yinlong #Lithium #CarAudio
    Today we are going to look at putting together a lithium battery bank for car audio purposes. The Yinlong LTO cells have become very popular as they store a LOT of energy and have INSANE discharge rates. Use 6 in series for 12-14 volt systems and add another for up to 18 volts.
    In this video I show the components required to set up your LTO bank and talk about cost. These are not cheap, but they save space and weight compared to traditional AGM batteries. They also have an insane charge cycle of up to 30,000 times so they should last for MANY years! See links below for items I purchased for this 80aH bank of LTO (Lithium Titanate) cells I created:
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  • @hectorortega9131
    @hectorortega9131 4 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    U might call your self a Big Dummy sometimes, but you make some of the most educational car audio Videos out there for for sure brotha, let the force and volts be with you..

    • @wal
      @wal  4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Just allow me to flub bolt vs nut and Nano vs Newton meter 🤦‍♂️

    • @DanBowkley
      @DanBowkley 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@wal nothing exploded, you're doing aight

    • @blackwhip
      @blackwhip 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree. Good shit. I appreciate it! Thank you bro!

  • @kswis
    @kswis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Lithium is soo cool. Which I could afford it right now, update: I've purchased 72ah of headway, power supply and a bunch of other junk to test and wire them up is here just waiting on the cells. Stoked to stay @ 14.3v when dumping the bass. Thanks for the info. It's all useful fosho

  • @jasonrapa7298
    @jasonrapa7298 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Turned out good man, keep up the videos, loving it. 👍🏼👍🏼👊

    • @wal
      @wal  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for watching and commenting!

  • @PoppaTInstall
    @PoppaTInstall 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent set up for non-charging. I say that's a win for the bank.

  • @keving1774
    @keving1774 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love all your videos great job every time 👍🏾

  • @BARBELLS-AND-BUDS
    @BARBELLS-AND-BUDS 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice setup Derek, on my wishlist.

  • @MacNifty
    @MacNifty 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If it's used for powering automobiles themselves and forklifts and other high power machines... for a sound system.. a definite yes.

  • @Flozman1982
    @Flozman1982 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid, I had a little chuckle when you flipped the cell over and I said newton-metre at the same time you said "nano-metre".

  • @oscarcorazondeleon2316
    @oscarcorazondeleon2316 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Eres el mejor maestro 👨‍🏫 nome pierdo tus videos no saves cuanto te queremos mucho cuídate

  • @clippingcoils8215
    @clippingcoils8215 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Been wondering about these lithiums. Your bank looks clean. Great video

    • @wal
      @wal  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Clean like a whistle

    • @jasonghering4389
      @jasonghering4389 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Williston Audio Labs. How long are these banks. I'm doing the same thing for my build. So I'm wanting to build a box to sit them in for safety and to look nicer. You have taught me tons of things. Thanks for being so informative

    • @SQ_og
      @SQ_og 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@walyou still running these?

  • @psychotikpaisano
    @psychotikpaisano 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yoooo. This is smart.
    I made a "home sound system" from a car audio setup in an mdf enclosure. Oldass Sony single din, 4 speakers, a jl 250/1 and a 12" infinity kappa. 12v comes from a PC psu. And reserve power from a huge lipo pack salvaged from a fried jump starter. The 12v regulated output from the psu will never over charge the lipos but they are in a battery sack just in case.

  • @lawrencecoore3569
    @lawrencecoore3569 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great information for guys like that are newbies

  • @jeremyhall9346
    @jeremyhall9346 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Excellent video. However I would use nylock nuts and flat washers.

  • @johnpolaski6126
    @johnpolaski6126 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Happy holidays nice vid ... thumbs up

  • @chillcloud9
    @chillcloud9 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! You should do a custom amplifier build series...

  • @varqtube
    @varqtube 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome vid, Dereck. Question...At the end of the 1st bank and the beginning of the 2nd bank (between cell pairs 3 and 4), it looks to continue to be series'd. If both banks of 6 are in parallel, where is the + to + and - to - relation? Just trying to gain a little knowledge here. EDIT: Never mind, I see what you did. My turn to be a Big Dummy, lol!

  • @basslife4evr772
    @basslife4evr772 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Don't worry BIG D ur still the man in my eyes brotha (✌🏼💪🏼🔈✌🏼💪🏼🔉✌🏼💪🏼🔊)

  • @DiyAllaroundguy
    @DiyAllaroundguy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Nice and clean ! As I was typing my comment you said it! You can get an 80ah bank for about 900 which is damn good I got a friend that spent 3-4 grand on XS lithium 🤦🏽‍♂️ I’m going to share this with him lol

    • @JesusSaves86AB
      @JesusSaves86AB 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I figured those XS lithiums were overpriced but damn. AGM for me

    • @GTILOUD
      @GTILOUD ปีที่แล้ว

      You can build this bank with the xs power 45 which is rebranded yinlong but a 6 bank series is 45ah not 40h same shit Big D has here just 45. Anyways you can get a 12 cell bank of either the 40ah for 900 but the 45ah is 100$ more it's a lil over 1,000$ but that's 12 cell bank 90ah all the bus bars, bolts and balancer from Big Jeff he has both even the 35ah for a lil cheaper. What in the f*** did your friend buy that was 4 bands lol

    • @FuckYouTubeCensorship2024
      @FuckYouTubeCensorship2024 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​​@@GTILOUD wrong. For one, xs yinlong isnt real yinlong cells. Plus you can get REAL yinlong for $100 less than xs power sells them at sriko batteries or bms batteries websites. Xs power is full of shit, so is d4s lithium, brand x lithium, and limitless. Also 35, 40, and 45ah yinlong cells all have different c ratings. Big Jeff is a ripoff. Do better research.

  • @kingtice22
    @kingtice22 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Would love to see you do a test on a 90ah cmax bank

  • @aaronalexander4883
    @aaronalexander4883 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the info good video.👍🏽

  • @IchoSPL
    @IchoSPL 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video about the lithium cells man, Cant wait to see more tests with them! Just Diz are Nuts not bolts lol

  • @kingrpriddick
    @kingrpriddick 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Looking forward to the LiFePO4 video, I'm wanting to do a headway build right now if I can find enough room.

    • @mkloudsql3285
      @mkloudsql3285 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did u ever get the build, howd they work out

    • @kingrpriddick
      @kingrpriddick 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mkloudsql3285 nope, I've stayed lead acid :( maybe one day.

  • @Jpilgrim30
    @Jpilgrim30 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You can find 12mm x 1.75 nuts at the auto parts store. A lot of ford trucks and SUVs used open face nuts that size for lug nuts. They even have serrated washers built on to them as well.

    • @wal
      @wal  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They were MUCH cheaper at BoltDepot, even after shipping

  • @808pathfinder
    @808pathfinder 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    when you do a draw test the cells will go back up slowly when in use,It had a big draw from the start so when voltage drop the amps go up .am using Headways but I want this setup now to go with my 1500F 16v, super caps ;)

  • @HifiVega
    @HifiVega 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Very cool!! The custom electric 80ah battery is a steal when you include all the factors you mentioned.

    • @m3rk201
      @m3rk201 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      First

    • @jorgepizarro3327
      @jorgepizarro3327 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@m3rk201 try 2nd..😂🤣

    • @m3rk201
      @m3rk201 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hifi vega is a car audio god not the same lol im the first mortal haha

    • @HifiVega
      @HifiVega 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      m3rk201 I’m more like car audio fool lol

  • @BARBELLS-AND-BUDS
    @BARBELLS-AND-BUDS ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is this still current as far as what people are using the Ying Long LTO cells?
    If so, is the price the same?
    I'm glad you mentioned in the video not to use an AGM with these because I was considering building one and having the AGM under the hood to the small one and have this in the back

  • @Djmambo77
    @Djmambo77 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Big D. So what are your thoughts? are these good for playing music with the engine off for a while?

  • @TheTimshady337
    @TheTimshady337 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice setup. I have some prismatic LTO's 20ah though

  • @sterlingslayden5285
    @sterlingslayden5285 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So we are waiting for that classic hot rod to be fully electric when you're done teaching us about battery storage. If you wouldn't mind can you discuss the glass battery?

  • @otisjwhite
    @otisjwhite 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should put a slim foam or cardboard between the cells. Just a safety suggestion just incase a cell overheats and bursts because of BMS malfunction from overcharging.

  • @murder5000
    @murder5000 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. This helped me alot.

    • @wal
      @wal  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      😬👍

  • @_ODJ
    @_ODJ 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    NICE! another diy battery build vid on youtube

  • @darrellw22
    @darrellw22 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video great info.. im thinking about getting some Yinlong lithium but i keep hearing if u drain lithium off all the power they are trash after that and they can't be recharged after all the power has been drained. Dont know how tru that is? 🤷‍♂️ i appreciate u Old school keep them car audio test coming in .👍🏾 oh and can u pls see if u can do a test on the new Taramps MD 12k .5 ohm version thanks. Til next time Im outter heeeeeerrrrrrrr🏃‍♂️🏃‍♂️🏃‍♂️🏃‍♂️🏃‍♂️

  • @ToolsOutsideTheBox
    @ToolsOutsideTheBox 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Interesting stuff! I just spent nearly $400 for the group 31 UltraCap instead, after watching EXO’s video on it.
    I already own the Maxwell ESM and love it. Wish I knew how to convert it for this

    • @201231
      @201231 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Do you like the ultra cap

    • @neildeatherage2269
      @neildeatherage2269 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@201231 I recently purchased that Ioxus cap opting for B-stock for 200 vs 400 (a couple days just about every vendor reduced regular price of 400 to 300) which only had some scratches and a little chip on the plastic seem. Purely cosmetic and honestly can't believe that cut the price in half. At any rate I am literally obsessed the cap it is unreal. I can't believe they don't seem to be gaining the traction they deserve. Running 2, 1k monoblock amps with factory premium amp (650ish watts) while charging my phone on a AC/DC converter with Heater/AC full tilt, windshield wipers on, and no perceivable voltage drops, lights dimming, and subs hitting so much harder maintaining consistent power with hungry continues trap bass lines. I literally almost want to purchase another one just in case mine gets stolen or breaks for some reason and they sell out (noticed some websites B-stock is getting low). But I figure with a 10 year or whatever it is warranty by the time the thing goes out whatever is available will be better or perhaps smaller which would be welcome. I still might buy another one while I can get one for 200 bucks for a christmas present or something. Father has a diesel truck that needs 2 batteries and a ton of juice to start so while not a basshead like me could use one of these and only 1 battery and not get stuck somewhere like we did the other day. Have a 5k amp on the way thats happy at mid 12 volts (sure you can guess which one that is) and just going to use my current 120 amp alternator (big 4 of course) and one XS AGM battery sitting next to the cap (have new LA battery under the hood, no isolator no issues) with 100% confidence. Just get one but please leave one B-stock left me me haha

  • @dimplezztorres6966
    @dimplezztorres6966 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude perfectly explained

    • @wal
      @wal  ปีที่แล้ว

      😬👍

  • @justinnelson6552
    @justinnelson6552 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's crazy how far technology has come in just 3 years

  • @image91
    @image91 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hm. Looking at switching over to these but so far all the claims of 5000w & 4000w per 40ah bank seem to be false. Also seeing that you mention that they are optimal when charged to around 15.6v. Considering I charge at 14.2v , would you recommend these? Looking to run around 10,000w on bass & 5,000w on mids/highs with a 250A alt. Will either be running 120ah lto & a 1260f super cap bank or 160ah lto. Not sure which is better. From your experience, any advice? Thanks & keep up the great work bro.

  • @aprilarenivar5691
    @aprilarenivar5691 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Can you run the stinger isolator runing agm and lithium?

  • @macalla1996
    @macalla1996 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    okay well I'm question if you're willing to answer it good Sir
    1. Do you connect this the same exact way you would connect a secondary battery?
    2. Substituting this for a secondary battery along with a battery isolator with it.
    3. Do we connect this the same exact way? Power wire basically 1/0 from the lithium + all the way to the battery isolator + into the front of a battery front main battery + So once we cranked the vehicle over (depending on what you're charging voltage is) Will it put for example 14.8v to both battery and lithium cells. I'm just going to use my vehicle as an example. I have a yellow top optima upfront d-35 I was going to buy a secondary D-35, I'm a fan of Optima batteries pretty-much old School technology. Anyway if not a I was going to buy a nvx 10 farad capacitor instead? I'm pretty much upgrading my sound system. With a CT sounds 1000.1 and a CT sounds 80.4 total amperage draw would be about 140 amps I think? Along with 135 amp alternator, 1/0 big 4 wiring job.
    I number this that way there is no confusion. I'm probably wording this wrong but I'm sure you probably know what I mean?

  • @ford1546
    @ford1546 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    do you use stainless nuts? I think it's important. magnetic metal also on the battery.
    Do you not reduce capacity when you series connect?

  • @fletchermusician3365
    @fletchermusician3365 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for this Video Derek, it was educational for me... those that pick over a word wrong or nit pick lol
    need to take a chill out pill LOL no body is perfect.. we all make mistakes... which were corrected .. FFS :-)

  • @UrAvgBasshead
    @UrAvgBasshead 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I went with JY 45.6 ah’s with 240a, 1 bank of XS power super caps, 2 15’s DC Audio level 5’s, 2 Crescendo 4k’s strapped while driving I don’t see under 14v.
    But I like these cells. Maybe switching in the future to CES 80 ah. Thanks big Dawg for the video. Excellent job.

    • @HardKnocks160s
      @HardKnocks160s 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Go with the ces 80ah its worth it ihave a 250 ces alt. Nd don't drop below 14.2. Full tilt Then climbs back up to 14.4 On a synergy wfo 5k at half ohm in 110+ degree. Heat when the cars been runnin g for a while im happy with my ces 80ah. Feels good playing full tilt on idle not dropping below 14.2

    • @UrAvgBasshead
      @UrAvgBasshead 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dbuilt Series thanks for letting me know. That’s awesome to hear even in hot weather. In Ohio we’re hitting 90 degree while driving I’m in the 14’s full tilt. It’s when at idle I drop to 12.8 to 12.2. How do you do at idle?

    • @HardKnocks160s
      @HardKnocks160s 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@UrAvgBasshead at idle im at 14.3 14.2 full tilt. These lto cells are bad ass well worth the money gained more volume i used to only play at volume 56 clean on a pioneer x8800bhs. Now i can play to volume 60 clean had to re set my gains and volt meter when i switched to the ces 80ah. I used to have 2 northstar agm nsb31s in the rear droping to like 13.2 13.4 at idle almost full tilt while driving around 13.8. 14.0. Now im at 14.4 14.5 full tilt driving once im fully warmed up.

    • @UrAvgBasshead
      @UrAvgBasshead 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dbuilt Series what charger do you use and how often do you charge your battery?

    • @HardKnocks160s
      @HardKnocks160s 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@UrAvgBasshead i haven't recharged this new ces 80ah i just installed it today i have. A Noco 26000 to charge it later on if i need to it should get the job done

  • @DrMichaelPetty
    @DrMichaelPetty 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just did 3 of these. 240ah. Replaced all my 7 titan 8 12volt. What a difference. Single 400 amp mechman alt. Ext regulator. Charge at 15.8-15.9. They will hold 15.1-15.3 for a minute with about a 1500amp current draw. So 500amp per bank. After about a minute it starts slowly dropping, but it’s rarely playing for more than 10-20 seconds at that volume. They also recharge fast. Back off the volume they are back at 15.8 very quickly. I could not more highly recommend these. I did 240ah with very nice bars. Each end accepts 10 sky high oversized 2/0. Total cost $3225. $1075 per bank. Great video big D.

    • @GTILOUD
      @GTILOUD ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you have any links to where you purchased all of your stuff the bus bars the cells the balancer

    • @DrMichaelPetty
      @DrMichaelPetty ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GTILOUD I bought them in premade 80ah banks from CES. Much easier. Looks a lot nicer. Balanced and ready to go when you receive it. On any search engine type in ces 80ah. First thing that pops up.

    • @evilinside5984
      @evilinside5984 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @DrMichaelPetty- Im not doubting your experience with the Titan 8, but were they the PWR= power, or RSV= reserve? Also maybe something was not right in your setup, or the New Titan 8 PWR batteries are much better now? Because i just recently seen a test, where only 1- Titan 8 S6 PWR (10Ah @ 75c!) battery was used (only had a 6amp charger hooked up for the test), and it only dropped 1.8volts (16.0v to 14.2v) and powered an amp to 11,400 watts R.M.S. On the Smd amp dyno, with a 1,000 amp draw! The test bigdwiz ran in this video above, with the 2 banks of 40Ah YinLong Lto, (so 80Ah total), dropped from 15.0v to 11.0v with a 500Amp draw= 1/2 the amperage draw, and more than twice the voltage drop! And only made 5800 watts on the dyno.

    • @evilinside5984
      @evilinside5984 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @DrMichaelPetty- That 400 amp alt. charging @ 15.8v supplys 6,300 watts all by it self, then each bank of 80ah yinlongs support 6k, so x3 or 240ah= 18k of battery power, and 6,300 from alt. Power, for a total electrical power output, that would support 24k. The Xs power 6S Titan 8 PWR, charging @ 16.6v with a 400 amp alt., would only Require 3 of these tiny batteries ($799 x3= $2,397) to maintain 16v, with a 1500 amp draw.

  • @midnight873
    @midnight873 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You sir are the best

  • @Exorcism47
    @Exorcism47 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'll be good with one bank (6 cells) and stock 120A alternator for 2k RMS?

  • @savage6394
    @savage6394 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That thing looks sick!

    • @wal
      @wal  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks bro 👌

  • @mikecasey3055
    @mikecasey3055 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the video! I’ve been looking for a place to buy these yinlong.

    • @wal
      @wal  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Diycentralshop.com also linked in video description and pinned comment 😊

    • @mrjbooker4123
      @mrjbooker4123 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wal where can purchase the battery monitor and is it necessary to get a big alternator while using these batteries?

  • @busdriver1469
    @busdriver1469 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The force is strong in this one😂😂

  • @gervinsbatista5717
    @gervinsbatista5717 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the best charger for the house? How many amps do you recommend?

  • @TimberTrainer
    @TimberTrainer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I heard the LTO cells are fire safe. It's always a good idea to place batteries in a safe location, but perhaps these don't need a firewall. Not much information on these. Good point about not using these in the same circuit as standard car batteries.

  • @floydbeard5073
    @floydbeard5073 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fancy looking big D I love it.

    • @wal
      @wal  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      👌😜👍

  • @MLMinReality
    @MLMinReality 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very cool idea. Ive been contemplating lithium for my newest build.

  • @ralph72462
    @ralph72462 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi need help finding someone who sells the hardware like you have on this video on the LTO cells. I love how hearty those bus connections look. Do you sell these items. If you also sell the LTO cells that would interest me also. Any advice would help just bought some of these cells on Amazon to try out but they bring no hardware at all.

  • @303nitzubishi4
    @303nitzubishi4 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So if they rest above 14 volts then I'm guessing you will need a standalone 16 volt alternator to charge them in an automotive application? The oem 14.4-15v isn't going to be high enough potential to push current into these once they are near full charge

  • @gettinthrewlife76
    @gettinthrewlife76 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh soo nice BigD👈😎👉. ✌️out from Cali 😎

    • @wal
      @wal  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      😜👍

  • @blackflworer
    @blackflworer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im new with the lto, so i got my self 45ah yinlong bank. Is it safe to use it with stock 90a alternator ? I manage to charge it up to 14.6. I use 5k amp on it and i never drop under 13.7...13.8.
    Is it safe for the alternator to charge the bank and not overheat or burn since i heart lithium haves lower resistance ? I use only balancer for the bank, my car is old and haves no bms i think.

  • @Dimofon
    @Dimofon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    420A alternator +200 ah lto 2pc sq q1-3500.1d bridge to 0.8 ohm. 12+kw clipped 15.5v drop to 15.0v 💣

  • @georgeowen2083
    @georgeowen2083 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Also you can buy some pretty good size lithium batteries from used medical equipment supply places.

  • @WillProwse
    @WillProwse 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Nice!!!!!

    • @wal
      @wal  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Will 🤙

    • @b1782w
      @b1782w 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ? For both of you guys...would the lto be superior to lfp FOR CAR AUDIO (read that lto has faster charge/discharge rate)

  • @recon440
    @recon440 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Also, I would like to add that for car audio applications there are effecively no BMS modules that can efficiently sustain the current draws we may see (400A+). As such, nobody really runs the BMS in the car audio world. I would like to see a retest of this battery bank without the BMS.

    • @timhoover1416
      @timhoover1416 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I guess as a person who does not know much about batteries, you did not see the gigantic bus bars that you connect to the amp. The BMS he was using did not control the flow of current from the battery, it only maintains the balance of the cells to each other. I work for the sister company to Yinlong that actually licenses them the LTO to make these cells. I'm an engineer, so I know what I'm talking about. There are BMS modules that will run the power through the BMS, don't buy one of those for high power applications like car audio.

    • @KuntalGhosh
      @KuntalGhosh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No need for bms. Just use a cell balancer.

    • @catch22frubert
      @catch22frubert 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@timhoover1416 There are definitely stand alone BMS units that can handle 500 amps continuous. Daly makes a 500 amp smart BMS that can do 500 amps continuous and I believe well over 1000 amps burst, and the BMS settings are accessible and adjustable. I've seen them for Lifepo4 batteries, but I haven't looked for an LTO BMS yet, but I'm sure they are out there. You are right though, the BMS would be a constant parasitic drain on the cells, and not desirable, even with the extra safety it provides. LTO Cells are already really safe and can take much higher Voltage than most car alternators provide, so I can understand why most people only run an active balancer with a 6s setup of LTO. Battery hookup has a nice little setup of LTO Cells for $200 that would be perfect for automotive duty, but I think I would probably want a 2p6s version of this setup, so at $400 plus balance board and some kind of Case, it's not so cheap anymore. It's probably still worth it though, just because they will outlast the car you put them in, but that's an argument you couldn't win with some people with a different viewpoint.

    • @tomasexteriors
      @tomasexteriors 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@catch22frubertthank you for sharing this was very interesting sir 🤝 can I ask you a question please?

  • @MrZX1409
    @MrZX1409 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you give me the dims for that 80ah dual, I would like to add that to my tour pac on my motorcycle plus is there any limitations on mounting orientation I may have to lay on it's side?

  • @cboyamg
    @cboyamg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    Fyi nm = newton meter not nano meter

    • @wal
      @wal  4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Great catch. Big dummy lives

    • @massivehertz3869
      @massivehertz3869 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      And a 12mm by 1.75 is a standard metric bolt 😉 nothing special.

    • @wal
      @wal  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      th-cam.com/video/tqd3HS_m6SY/w-d-xo.html

    • @wal
      @wal  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@massivehertz3869 they were $0.95 each at my local hardware store and $0.16/ea at BoltDepot

    • @jvsyoutube3298
      @jvsyoutube3298 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@massivehertz3869 mmyeah, M12 nut

  • @charlesphillips1642
    @charlesphillips1642 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lanzar 250x4 on 100ah c max and played for an hour no drop in voltage on

  • @jake19xx
    @jake19xx 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you ever do a video of the headway cells?

  • @WAT3VATVUSA
    @WAT3VATVUSA 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I Have A Question
    3 Northstar AGM31 PRO Vs. 1 Northstar SMSAGM480 Which Is Best with JS 390a Alternator ???

  • @mattroadfeldt9012
    @mattroadfeldt9012 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So really appreciate the video content you put out. Would it be possible to see how long the yinlong LTO will last with multiple back to back use of a 5k-ish load like you showed in the video? Until you get below 13.8v? The listed manufacturer cell average (6 cells 2.3v in series)

    • @wal
      @wal  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I will show more LTO in the future

    • @mattroadfeldt9012
      @mattroadfeldt9012 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@wal I look forward to it! I really appreciate the video content you do produce. Especially this one dispite the mistakes. Thank you for the hard work!

  • @loudjunkey4206
    @loudjunkey4206 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great info on battery’s great video 💪🏽👍🏼👍🏼

  • @chuckfarley5415
    @chuckfarley5415 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ok so. Just to add to the parallel charging info..
    You need to be careful when charging in parallel. Each cell needs to match as closely as possible. Not just in capacity but their impedance, IR (internal resistance) needs to be the same as well. If one cell is lazy, the parallel board is averaging the sum so others can take too much.
    I would cycle all of these probably 3 times then check what each cell accepts in capacity and what the IRs are. If they differ +\- 2%, don’t parallel them. This is much more crucial with other chemistries but still relevant here. Especially going in my vehicle.
    Anyways... Love your channel Big D... keep that shizz up 👊🏼.

    • @mitchellroberts7954
      @mitchellroberts7954 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree. We're generally talking about minor tolerances but it can add up and be catastrophic over time. Less of a problem with caps, but lithium fails in a much worse fashion (unless you can somehow manage to seal the vent on the cap and turn it in to the.. you know).

    • @CORZER0
      @CORZER0 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you not notice the balancer he used?

  • @spider6837
    @spider6837 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's great to see. The bandwagon on yinlongs is ridiculous. It can work with alts. But comparing 40ah to 40ah. I'm glad to know my 80ah spims are doing better than yinlongs

  • @o.gwolverine8189
    @o.gwolverine8189 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I guess if you need a consistant voltage for for an extended amount of time like an spl comp they would be ideal but for a daily driver tho lasting four times as long there also more than four times expensive than led acid marine set up.

  • @neverenoughaudio9887
    @neverenoughaudio9887 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    With that charger did you charge after assembly or before you assembly

  • @BearMeat4Dinner
    @BearMeat4Dinner 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. New sub here!

  • @marcusstanford2574
    @marcusstanford2574 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Full tilt looks like a better deal being in a case for $1099?

  • @derrickchoate8298
    @derrickchoate8298 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey can you please tell me if there's a way to use just this in your car as your power supply/ starter battery I'm trying to get rid of the lead/acid battery and go straight LTO for the best possible performance from the front of the car to the back I'm limited to the stock alternator because of my car 2019 Toyota Camry ( ONBUS LINBUS electronics build) but every dealer I talk to about these or the xs power cells all want to upsale me to 2-4 titan 8's that's 1500$-3000$ a lot more money than I have to spend and I'll only get the same 30-40 AH of LTO that a cell bank like this has for half the price

  • @billyjarvis27
    @billyjarvis27 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there any special way to hook theses up to the alternator? Or is it the same as a standard battery? I’m still learning bout these so don’t rag me to hard lol

  • @rourkebuys1791
    @rourkebuys1791 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Big d wiz nice. Only q is .is that aluminium links isolated between the 2 banks? Or is each bank in series? And the links connect the 2 banks in parallel?

    • @magicmikebangin15s64
      @magicmikebangin15s64 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Basically series Parallel
      Series as in to get 13.8 v final
      Parallel as in , in series side by side parallel. If that makes sense or I may not be explaining it correctly.
      As you see 1 side of the bank the other side is exactly the same way. Pos-neg-pos-neg ect...

  • @cfmechanic
    @cfmechanic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hear the noise sounds like alternator noise. Were u saying with a bank of these that I can delete my factory battery. Right now I use agm under hood and optima bluetop in the trunk. I would be looking to build a bank a bit bigger than yours. Maybe 6 more cells

  • @DanBowkley
    @DanBowkley 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    7n-m works out to just about 62 in-lbs, for those of us using imperial measurements. I'm pretty sure Harbor Freight has a 1/4" drive clicky torque wrench that'll take care of that for maybe $30.

  • @joshuaaldiva3866
    @joshuaaldiva3866 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have 27,000rms of wattage in my car. About how many banks would I need? I also have a autotech 320amp alternator
    3- 8,000watt amps
    1-5,000 watt amp
    Will be adding
    2-3,000 watts

  • @Swenser
    @Swenser 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are these cells really explosionless/fireless? Please test and short one out for us.

  • @tankdog03ify
    @tankdog03ify 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think they to be duty cycled a couple times.. they should recover and fight back sum, try that test again with sum charge going into them

  • @longcrossqin2896
    @longcrossqin2896 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there any accessaries competible with Yinlong Prismatic?

  • @jaiminbhatt2570
    @jaiminbhatt2570 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want to build 48 volt battry pack for my Ebike
    How many cell i needed ?
    18 is enogh ?
    Also worried to get 48 volt BMS.

  • @oguzhankaraduman8187
    @oguzhankaraduman8187 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the cloumb(c) value of the LTO66160H series?

  • @jaredappleseed7037
    @jaredappleseed7037 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anthony Jude is the man 👍

  • @keepitcleanaudio
    @keepitcleanaudio 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you are curious how to bring a lipo back look up rc videos we have done this alot we have all forgot to unplug our lipo batters after a race.

  • @Petar120
    @Petar120 ปีที่แล้ว

    How long can this battery last on average if pushing 1500w apm without being charged by alternator coz i have stock and don't really want to buy new one?

  • @sHoRtBuSseR
    @sHoRtBuSseR 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Buddy is running 2 80ah CES batteries and a 370 amp alt. Charging at 15.3 drops to 15 full tilt and slowly goes down from there. Long demos no problem and charges back very quickly. 2 12k amps at half each

    • @wal
      @wal  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great feedback. I’m getting 2 more banks

    • @sHoRtBuSseR
      @sHoRtBuSseR 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@wal can't wait to see it. I really appreciate you showing the setup.

  • @richardzan4077
    @richardzan4077 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have been doing tests on these batteries for 2 years. The problem that these batteries after charging up to 2.8V are quickly discharged automatically.
    In addition, each cells does not charge correctly. So at the moment of electronic calibration you will lose the total battery voltage. So, after a whole day of calibration, you need to recharge them again. I have batteries of the same company as you.
    I approach these batteries sold by individual Chinese shops are waste (bad somehow) from a large company - Yinlong.
    To buy good batteries, you need to apply directly to the manufacturer

    • @Hotecce1
      @Hotecce1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ok. so if you had 4 or more banks, and kept them fully charged using a 300+ amp alternator, would it be more than enough to power a car audio system, compared to having 4 or more lead acid batteries. Im thinking of using these lithium cells to replace the heavy car batteries, to save weight, and more so, space.

  • @GrimmReapa
    @GrimmReapa 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So we need some one to make a relay that cuts the connection to the agm batteries when not in use.

  • @theodoresignal
    @theodoresignal 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The 6s charger has been sold out for a while. Any other options

  • @GuNNeR2SicK
    @GuNNeR2SicK 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Whats the best charger for yinlong lto?

  • @chrispuckett1347
    @chrispuckett1347 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have a ces 80ah yinlong bank and 1 bank of Maxwell boost caps stock 150ah alt and rest at 14.2 on 2 sundown scv.4000 at 1 ohm strapped .5 each amp and have never went below 13.5 full tilt in the lanes on a 1.15 sec average i guess were you had all draw and nothing putting back is why the test dropped so bad would do so much better in car testing they are amazing no joke and if i could get my voltage on up to around 14.8 they would do way better but its in a 2019 and the computer runs the voltage look forward to more testing in car testing

  • @travisforbes3778
    @travisforbes3778 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please do a Hifonics 1800.1d zeus dyno

  • @JonHunter80
    @JonHunter80 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    just the info that I've been looking for, thanx a mil big D, say a do u think that bank combined with a bank of caps with 250amp alternator might be enough for a 6.5k RMS system? an if not, possibly a 3.5k RMS system? any input from anyone would be most appreciated!

    • @clinthernandez9393
      @clinthernandez9393 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You should definitely be good bro, you should barely see any voltage drop even if you go with a 6k, that alt will help you a lot for sure

  • @jamest.5001
    @jamest.5001 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have been thinking about getting a few of these to power my home, since they have basically have the life span of a capacitor, I wouldn't need to buy batteries for 20+ years, I need 2k ah, at 24v!

    • @wal
      @wal  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      LiFePO4 is closer to 12V (per bank) and those may work better for home solar system (in series for 24-26 volts)

  • @mattplachter5200
    @mattplachter5200 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So how much power did the amp do on the agm bank?

  • @ze_german2921
    @ze_german2921 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was told by XS Power that a Balance board was not required for these cells.

  • @InvictusMedia
    @InvictusMedia 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That looks like old school Hifonics connectors on that balance board.

  • @willieurus
    @willieurus ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m confused what is this for
    Is this replacing car battery for car stereo or is this for home use