This was definitely one of the best cinematic videos that I've watched from Moment. This is Moment at its best. Shooting cool, gorgeous videos and breaking down the process behind it. Wouldn't have guessed y'all shot at 8k for most of the shots but very well done! Xiaomi did a spectacular job with this one.
I wish Panasonic would update the DMC-CM1. It had everything: 1" sensor, Leica glass, nice texture on the back of the phone, a control ring and the ability to add filters (a la Fuji X100 way).
That's great to see bigger sensor in upcoming phones but I'd like to see also some codecs improvements... Like the ability to record in prores 422 hq for exemple
I imported this phone the second it was available. Best camera phone I've ever used. My previous was a Galaxy S22 ultra and this just overshadows its camera capabilities. Using that 50mp camera with the 1inch sensor.. Nothing else comes close. Best phone I've ever used 😀
Lmao, I also have the 12s, Mi-11U, 13PM, and S22U, as I use these extensively in various projects, the 12s has an awesome camera, but I still prefer S22U 16Bit Expert Raw in certain situations, and the 13PM still beats it in video with it's higher Codecs (ProRes2020, HLG, etc.,), with that said, the 12s with the bigger sensor definitely has it's benefits over the others, and that's why I use it...
@@ILFforever Xiaomi Mi 10 Pro mobile was launched on 13th February 2020 and around September the same year it got an update that made it go from 8k24 to 8k30. This could also happen with 12s ultra.
@@TechMikkel Really well hopefully that happens but I think the older models were upscaled to 8k and not "truly" 8k but I'm not so sure as I'm still stuck with the mi9 with 4k60
Can someone, perhaps you guys, do a comparison with Sony's Xperia 1" sensor phone camera. It is in the same price range as this. Not sure if Sony uses the full 1" sensor, but I imagine it could, or it could with a software update, unless it already does? I don't know.
Wish you would have filmed in 30 fps. 24 might look good on your laptop, but after uploading to TH-cam this looks absolutely awful in fast movements/panning.
How are phone sensors doing so much better than full frame mirrorless cameras when it comes to features? We can do 8K video on a 1-in sensor and not on the APS-C???
Hmm, why there is stutter in several shots? Wrong framerate/shutterspeed, or the phone couldn't keep constant FPS? That degrades the whole movie and make it a deal breaker.
I’m still having a hard time believing this was shot in 8k 🤯 is that really true?! Does it actually look like 8k??? Are we at the age of phones shooting 8k with 1 inch sensors? 😨…this is wild 😆
Good question. 8k is only one data point. Is it compressed? If so, does that affect the image or not? Just because something is 8k, does it actually look sharper than a 4k video on a large screen or large prin? For example watching an 8k video on a cell phone or even tablet is kind of pointless. 1080p is usually max for a cell phone screen.... Hopefully 8k is not just a gimmick, it may or may not be
i have my MI 11 Ultra for a long time and today made a test uploading an old 8K clip, will take hours to process by yutub since this clip is 1 minute long...
This is a nice phone, but I’m going to shell out a little extra dough and get the black magic 6k pro. Mobile phones are awesome to shoot on because you don’t have to carry a bunch of gear around but it’s time for me to move up to a camera that was built for cinematic filmmaking.
I think we have different eyes watching What is amazing and what is not. The same like saying Star-bucks is a coffee, come to Spain and you would know what is a coffee.
As impressive as this phone is and I would buy it in the blink of an eye if it was available globally,BUT,it still has that choppy video. It is not smooth. I had the same issue when I owned the Xiaomi 11 Ultra. That needs to be addressed in their next generation Ultra AND it needs to go global.
I wonder if the phone is hitting the market right - casual shooters looking for small light form phones will just use the iPhone pro in their pocket; more serious shooters will still go for a DSLR to get noticeably better image quality (softer/more professional look). I guess only time will tell
The sensor in this camera is actually less then vidicon inch. And in the central wide lens is even less the that. Main camera in the left side and its no great at all.
Now install motion cam so you can shot 10 and 12 bit raw cinema dng and be blown away without crushed blacks and noise reduction from default camera app... hate that we cant disable those things...
@@moment Shoting 10 bit cdng raw on $150 xiaomi mi a3 phone from 2019 :) The quality is out of this world. The first time I saw what is sony imx586 capable of. Can't imagine on this phone
@@ajitcool6 I'm not talking about power banks you missed understood? I'm talking about the camera having an interchangeable battery, but the phone doesn't so in the long run, the camera will outlast the phone in the life of the product.
I'm watching the review of the biggest phone sensor on my phone , and it looks like any other review , photo or video I see on a daily basis , since , I view them all on my phone . My point is , it's becoming harder and harder for 90% of users to buy any new gear based on picture quality since if you look at Google analytics 90% of all foot traffic is viewed on a tiny 6inch screen
I got the Mi 11 ultra and it is pretty rad but I cannot have a constant frame rate even in pro mode. Is the 12 the same way? It's always shooting variable frame rate no matter what I do.
Everyone a professional photographer ...with a phone... Till they have to colour grade, know colour balance, know how to expose, know what "m" means on a camera 🤣
are we all looking at the same thing? not impressed by the footage at all tbh. yeah low light performance is definitely nice, and some bokeh here and there. but the videos look really choppy and low resolution + slightly oversharpened. I'd argue that the 3 year old google pixel 4 + filmic pro app delivers much nicer video footage, except for maybe lowlight scenarios. great review and tests anyway :)
Holy crap this camera looks awesome! Will be interesting to see the kind of ND filter attachments you guys will come up with. Stunning footage guys!
No it doesn't
Lmao what
This was definitely one of the best cinematic videos that I've watched from Moment. This is Moment at its best. Shooting cool, gorgeous videos and breaking down the process behind it. Wouldn't have guessed y'all shot at 8k for most of the shots but very well done! Xiaomi did a spectacular job with this one.
Moment moment.
No, panning shots look awful! Admit that the colours look great, but the footage looks very jittery in fast movements.
@@MTBs because its 24 fps at 8k
@@fuzer4047 Useless since no one can watch 8k, especially not on TH-cam.
Love the 5x telephoto. Family members own all 3 of the Ultras from Xiaomi. It should be standard on all new standard iPhones.
Believe me, in the next years every flagship phone will have this type of optics and 1 inch sensor if not more! standard.
I wish Panasonic would update the DMC-CM1. It had everything: 1" sensor, Leica glass, nice texture on the back of the phone, a control ring and the ability to add filters (a la Fuji X100 way).
Came here to say something similar. CM1 was well ahead of it’s time and crippled by dodgy software.
That's great to see bigger sensor in upcoming phones but I'd like to see also some codecs improvements... Like the ability to record in prores 422 hq for exemple
It can shoot 12 bit 444 compressed and uncompressed dng raw with free app. I also shot 10bit 4000x3000 raw on extrenal ssd with $150 phone
@@smalldeekgeorge Motion Camera app? that's amazing bro..
Anamorphic compatibility for a 1" sensor 🤔
I imported this phone the second it was available. Best camera phone I've ever used. My previous was a Galaxy S22 ultra and this just overshadows its camera capabilities. Using that 50mp camera with the 1inch sensor.. Nothing else comes close. Best phone I've ever used 😀
Lmao, I also have the 12s, Mi-11U, 13PM, and S22U, as I use these extensively in various projects, the 12s has an awesome camera, but I still prefer S22U 16Bit Expert Raw in certain situations, and the 13PM still beats it in video with it's higher Codecs (ProRes2020, HLG, etc.,), with that said, the 12s with the bigger sensor definitely has it's benefits over the others, and that's why I use it...
Where can I order one from legit site ... to ship to US?
@@bryceheffinger8895 GizTop, awesome seller...
@@bigcdub Thanks my guy
@@bryceheffinger8895wish? TF up.
Wow. This looks gorgeous. Might have to look at a new phone 👀
Great video. However, when you use 8k24 the frame rate stutters.
Yep exactly
Well it's 24 fps. Hoping next versions will finally have 30 or 60
@@ILFforever Xiaomi Mi 10 Pro mobile was launched on 13th February 2020 and around September the same year it got an update that made it go from 8k24 to 8k30. This could also happen with 12s ultra.
@@TechMikkel Really well hopefully that happens but I think the older models were upscaled to 8k and not "truly" 8k but I'm not so sure as I'm still stuck with the mi9 with 4k60
@@ILFforever You are right. It is just 6k30 upscaled to 8k30. However, I would prefer 6k30 upscaled to 8k30 instead of 8k24.
This is great it's like I'm with you guys in the set , like the vibe ❤️
Can someone, perhaps you guys, do a comparison with Sony's Xperia 1" sensor phone camera. It is in the same price range as this. Not sure if Sony uses the full 1" sensor, but I imagine it could, or it could with a software update, unless it already does? I don't know.
The obvious questions... What does the camera setup do to battery life and how can the glass be protected?
Loving the sunny crew being together in person ❤
That camera design is impressive.
yall killed it with this project! big fan!
Looks like a beast of a phone. Crazy to see y'all together in my backyard.
Wish you would have filmed in 30 fps. 24 might look good on your laptop, but after uploading to TH-cam this looks absolutely awful in fast movements/panning.
Classic Moment. Keep it up!
Nice vid! Would love to see still photos testing as well:)
How are phone sensors doing so much better than full frame mirrorless cameras when it comes to features?
We can do 8K video on a 1-in sensor and not on the APS-C???
what about the moment lenses? Are they compatible with the 1 inch sensor? Vignetting?
Fun shoot, wish Xiaomi sold their phones in the US 😕
Awesome! How'd you mount the phone to the Ronin?
Looks great but how can you buy this phone?.. do they sell it outside of Asia?
Ah miss you guys
For the price you may as well buy a used full frame and you'll have glass options.
And how portable is that gonna be?
Great job Caleb 😊
Hmm, why there is stutter in several shots? Wrong framerate/shutterspeed, or the phone couldn't keep constant FPS?
That degrades the whole movie and make it a deal breaker.
Great video everyone! Very cool content!
I love how all the cool young hipster tubers are basically old moms and dads now
I’m still having a hard time believing this was shot in 8k 🤯 is that really true?! Does it actually look like 8k??? Are we at the age of phones shooting 8k with 1 inch sensors? 😨…this is wild 😆
Good question. 8k is only one data point. Is it compressed? If so, does that affect the image or not? Just because something is 8k, does it actually look sharper than a 4k video on a large screen or large prin? For example watching an 8k video on a cell phone or even tablet is kind of pointless. 1080p is usually max for a cell phone screen.... Hopefully 8k is not just a gimmick, it may or may not be
i have my MI 11 Ultra for a long time and today made a test uploading an old 8K clip, will take hours to process by yutub since this clip is 1 minute long...
It's not just 8k foolish ones it's true HD dolby atmos 240ffs
You're in Portland and get Starbucks?! bruhhhhhhhh 🤣
It is really cool video. I just want to keep watching it only because its so pretty!!!
PRO-I is for me much nicer.. because 4K HDR 120fps recording. 😊😎 Low light video looks amazing on one inch sensor.
🤣🤣🤣
@@stx7389 I prefer slo motion in 4K. Like magic 😎
Keep in mind Sony doesn’t use the full 1 inch sensor, but only 60%
@@oleksii.lopasov Yes I know but first I need only 8-10mpx for good 4K and second pixel size. Yes I want 1 inch 12mpx sensor. Both are nice phones.
@@lucasn82_ the xperia sensor is literally 85% smaller, it cannot be better m8
Could you share with us the writing process of this short film? It was great
This is a nice phone, but I’m going to shell out a little extra dough and get the black magic 6k pro. Mobile phones are awesome to shoot on because you don’t have to carry a bunch of gear around but it’s time for me to move up to a camera that was built for cinematic filmmaking.
I think we have different eyes watching What is amazing and what is not. The same like saying Star-bucks is a coffee, come to Spain and you would know what is a coffee.
As impressive as this phone is and I would buy it in the blink of an eye if it was available globally,BUT,it still has that choppy video. It is not smooth. I had the same issue when I owned the Xiaomi 11 Ultra. That needs to be addressed in their next generation Ultra AND it needs to go global.
this video on 24fps
Did you encounter lag issues using it's camera app when shooting continuously?
what MP is the camera images and what is it retailing for $ ok I just saw it's 50 MP - wow
so what' is the teams favourite phone WITH smartphone lenses currently? the film just lacked the anamorphic look
Good camera, but Sony XPERIA Pro-I with 1 inch type sensor has better camera. Maybe glass lenses help.
I wonder if the phone is hitting the market right - casual shooters looking for small light form phones will just use the iPhone pro in their pocket; more serious shooters will still go for a DSLR to get noticeably better image quality (softer/more professional look). I guess only time will tell
When are ya'll gonna make a Moment case for the Galaxy S22 Ultra???
The sensor in this camera is actually less then vidicon inch. And in the central wide lens is even less the that. Main camera in the left side and its no great at all.
How would you compare with the new Sony 1?
Now install motion cam so you can shot 10 and 12 bit raw cinema dng and be blown away without crushed blacks and noise reduction from default camera app... hate that we cant disable those things...
WHOA! need to test this.
@@moment Shoting 10 bit cdng raw on $150 xiaomi mi a3 phone from 2019 :) The quality is out of this world. The first time I saw what is sony imx586 capable of. Can't imagine on this phone
@@moment Please test motioncam pro app make a video or reel about it! The app is a game changer in mobile cinematography!
Bro need the link of that app...
It's on play store bro 😆
The only problem is the battery for the longevity of the life of the phone compare to a one-inch sensor dedicated camera.
Power bricks are handy in these situations...
@@ajitcool6 I'm not talking about power banks you missed understood? I'm talking about the camera having an interchangeable battery, but the phone doesn't so in the long run, the camera will outlast the phone in the life of the product.
It would be dream to work for moment, love working outdoors!
See if you can get motion cam pro app working on it. What a game changer if it works! You'll get 12bit cdng raw!
Still look like a phone video. If this could shoot some kind of raw/pro res video with no post processing it could be interesting
I'm watching the review of the biggest phone sensor on my phone , and it looks like any other review , photo or video I see on a daily basis , since , I view them all on my phone . My point is , it's becoming harder and harder for 90% of users to buy any new gear based on picture quality since if you look at Google analytics 90% of all foot traffic is viewed on a tiny 6inch screen
I actually prefer a 270 deg shutter for slow motion. Just looks smoother so 60fps 1/180
Have you tried the Sony xperia 1 IV, that camera is amazing
What is the brand for the phone stand?
Make the glass around the tiny lens bigger and instantly people think the camera has to be way better 😂
Can you do without gimbal? Is there a button for Astrophotography?
Is it good in HDR video recording compare to iPhone 13 Pro
Cut! I mean Sick! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
A huge piece of glass to cover a tiny little lens: more glass surface that'll crack when this phone is dropped.
GREAT JOB!
What ND filter was used when shooting?
Finally good lowlight with acceptable dynamic range on a phone
What is the name of phone hoder/stand/cimbal ?
How about shooting the night sky from it? 🤩
I wish most smartphone have 1in sensor on all three lenses 😬
would be nice if u could be steady with it
I got the Mi 11 ultra and it is pretty rad but I cannot have a constant frame rate even in pro mode. Is the 12 the same way? It's always shooting variable frame rate no matter what I do.
I think there is still some frame drop issue,
Liked this one too!
Can you shoot LOG with all lenses?
the biggest camera sensor in a phone YET
Why didn't u try LOG or raw video on that?
Wow. Smart phones are stepping into or passing action cameras.
any idea what the fstop is?
Does it work on T-Mobile?
pretty sure sony was the first to put a 1-inch sensor in a phone
Very impressed 😳
Nice work.
What about the dropped frames? 😊
Quite surprised to see the Buddhist mantra 'Om Mane Padme Hum' in his chest
Goodluck for your patience on transfering your video to your laptop. I can't belive a thousand dollar phone still uses a usb 2.0
Please do a photo review of it
A tshirt and a hood. Phone is good.
yeah looks nice but still the video is too sharp and digital like every other phone camera, but photos i wonder
proof that 1 inch is MORE than enough. you can do so much with 1 inch, anything more than that is too much. i think 1 inch should be the new standard
Sony is now in the Leica aliance??? LMAO
dang, I may have to leave the pixel life and join the Xiaomi good life.
Just a matter of time before camera phones will bite the mirrorless butts and become the new proper 'cameras'. I'll give it between 6-10 years time
Everyone a professional photographer ...with a phone... Till they have to colour grade, know colour balance, know how to expose, know what "m" means on a camera 🤣
are we all looking at the same thing? not impressed by the footage at all tbh. yeah low light performance is definitely nice, and some bokeh here and there. but the videos look really choppy and low resolution + slightly oversharpened.
I'd argue that the 3 year old google pixel 4 + filmic pro app delivers much nicer video footage, except for maybe lowlight scenarios.
great review and tests anyway :)
True... Also, even better iPhone 13PM with FilMic Pro is unbeatable...
Best phone camere you have ever used ? Now that’s a 🧢
lieca. Am I right?
There is a significant frame drop on Xiaomi videos.
Can you try with VIVO X80PRO 🙏
so sony xperia pro did it first and this phone claim they got the biggest sensor on a phone right now.
What happend if you put an anamorphic lens on there?
magic happens
Good content 👏👏👏👏
Good content 👍
xiaomi 12s ultra is good with big filter
iPhone 14 drops in like a week. It's about to drop some shocking updates to the camera.