I'M SO BAD AT THIS - Detroit: Become Human - PART 3 - Blind Playthrough
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ก.ค. 2024
- Hello everyone and welcome to this blind playthrough of Detroit: Become Human! Today, Markus must deal with an intruder in Carl's mansion, I make a poor attempt at interrogating a murder suspect, and then Kara and Alice must find a safe place to spend the night!
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0:00 - Intro
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12:32 - The Interrogation
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TWENTY EIGHT STAB WOUNDS
11:58 - Is it really a dichotomy? Marcus "broke through" his pre-programmed railroading and you had a choice, on screen, to fight back! So you followed Carl's advice, you thought for yourself and made your own decision. Being your own man doesn't mean "do the opposite of what Carl says" :D
And I think I would've done the same. Androids can get repairs. Fighting a human can be life-threatening, there's really no need.
I guess that's true! 🤔
Recognising unfairness is actually a fairly basic social concept that even some animals can understand, so it's not unreasonable that it would be one of the first things to trigger emotions.
Please ignore the flowchart at least until the end of each chapter; just play the game and enjoy your version of the story. Don't worry about "missing" something. The only way to see everything is to play the game several times. I would suggest you only redo a chapter if you honestly make a mistake with pressing the wrong button. If it's only regretting how a choice worked out, live with it at least for this playthrough. Life is making choices with the information you have, never knowing if it's the so-called "best" choice. I think Carl's advice to Marcus also applies to the flowchart: "Face the abyss, but don't let it consume you".
I think it would be great to see you go back and replay these scenes at the end of a full play-through. And don't worry too much about your decisions. The game has a way of making sure your choices don't end the story.
4:48 As an android, Marcus probably has a perfect memory and would know the lights were definitely not on when they left.
All your interrogation attempts were focused on only raising stress or only lowering stress, and I think that's why you were struggling there and didn't end up with the best result. It's not about having the stress meter be empty or full, it's about having it at the right levels at the right times for whatever you're trying to do.
It's a hard game to not replay. Personally I'm okay with you going back to look at all the options so long as long as you try to mostly stick to your first result unless a big death happens or something. But if you don't want to replay as much or do a second playthrough you could always react to a youtube compilation of different decisions after you finish the game.
Yeah, I just didn't really notice the stress brackets for some reason and thought the point was to lower or raise his stress as much as possible 😓 Definitely going to replay some parts later!
You simply can't see everything in one run. You kinda have to accept it if you want to enjoy the game. And also you should remember that the game was made with those possibilities in mind: there's no one right answer and hundred wrong ones, they all are right in a way. If you miss one thing you are pretty guaranteed to get smth else in return (maybe not now but later). Don't be afraid and let the game to tell you a story. I understand your fear to loose characters, though, but, you know, some stories just can't end well and that's the point of them.
I'm loving the play through so far but... you reaching optimal stress and then picking probe memory is the peak of blind let's play pain😂😭 your doing a good job though, honestly you ended up with a pretty good outcome
Man I misunderstood that whole section so bad.................... 😭
@@LukaelPlays don't beat your self up about it lots of people get confused there lol, thank you for replying to my comment, you are awesome!
@@LukaelPlays honestly most people struggle with that part in all the playthroughs i've seen, the game probably could've done a better job at explaining it to the player
@@LukaelPlaysyeah I think most people do. I did the same but managed to catch it quickly enough to pull it back. It’s one point that the game should have been more explicit as when presented with a stress meter you instinctively want to reduce it
@@LukaelPlaysThat part Ive seen soo many people misinterpret. Seen more lets plays lower the stress even after it says ‘too low’ than lets plays where they notice the box and push them to the optimal level. Its a common mistake.
I think the thought of "He can't feel pain, so it doesn't really matter that he was getting burned by cigarettes." can be really dangerous. There are human medical conditions that prevent people from experiencing pain, but I don't think it's any more okay to hit them than the regular human.
Just because an android is incapable of physically feeling pain, that doesn't mean they can't perceive it in a different way. They are obviously reacting to being assaulted, so who's to say it doesn't hurt them? They might not possess any nociceptors but their processor is clearly telling them they should be feeling pain anyway.
I agree of course! I didn't really find the right words to explain it in the video but hopefully it still came across, even without physical pain there are still plenty of negative psychological effects from abusing someone
I don't believe he meant he was thinking the android can't feel it so it's fine. He meant that to the Android's mind he couldnt feel it so it didn't matter at the time the Android didn't need to break free from programming until he was afraid for his survival.
34:41 I mean, I get it. That's definitely a scenario where I'd reload the save without any hesitation.
Lukael you are too kind of a person. 😂
You have someone who was so abused that they killed their attacker and who knows they will soon be destroyed for it. And you are hoping for a low stress chat about it. Lol. Never change. ❤
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I would recommend you to "live with your choices". There are people who already posted the videos of optimal run of the whole game. We are here to see what would you decide and do in certain situations. For the first play through I believe choices should be the first thing that comes to your mind, and the results would be genuine yours. Everyone can be a general after the battle, you shouldn't be general at all, don't think too much about it and just do it.
You can replay the game and go for a second time, then you can go for optimal outcome or the worst possible. 😉
“She’s judging me” LOL
45:23 The game indicates there's an 'optimal' stress level for the interrogation. This likely has some significance and possibly making it the best time to influence your prefered outcome.
It does but I somehow missed it or didn't understand it correctly 😭
I really hope you don't keep replaying all the chapters till you finish the game. This is supposed to be your unique & organic story. We're all gonna choose wrong/right choices & should stick by them no matter what.
I find it bizarre that the hotel guy would turn away money if she showed up looking like an android.
Actually is not weird at all androids are distressed by physical abuse even if they don't feel pain.
There is this condition (wich I forgot the name of) that causes people to not feel physical pain, but that doesn't mean these people will allow you to just break their arm or cut off their fingers. Those people might not feel pain, but they know it's dangerous to get hurt or even deadly (and obviously no one wants to die, regardless if they feel pain or not). And of course there is also the emotional trauma that comes with the abuse.
Same thing applies to androids here! Just because the abuse causes no physical pain, doesn't mean they don't care about being damaged and killed. SPECIALLY deviants! They have a sense of fear and self preservation that regular androids don't, so obviously they would protect themselves even more than the relgular ones.
Also: If you ever replay, you can try to get the confession without losing the android.
About the interrogation chapter. You CAN get a confession without the android killing himself. He only kills himself if his stress level is above optimal.
You just need to stay in the optimal stress levels by balancing your approach once you have reached optimal level. Stressing him when you need to raise it and calm him when you need to lower it.
The "pick an approach" option is a little confusing because you don't need to stick to the initial approach. You can start with pressure, then calm down once you have optimal level. Or vice versa.
After you reached the correct level, you continued to stress him out until he went over the optimal level which is why he killed himself.
The thing is, because you couldn't let the original ending to that interrogation scene stand, you missed out on what would've come next.
You simply cannot see everything in this game in a single playthrough. It's just not possible.
You are very hilarious, Lukael. This game does not provide a clean, safe path through the story. You're going to have to go off the 'normal' path to make your way through each challenge. Doing shady things is standard, at times, when you're down and out. Stealing out of necessity is real. Defending yourself out of necessity is real. DBH really makes you feel your decisions. You'll start to see that Androids are not the real problem. Who made them? Who loves convenience at their fingertips? Not Androids. The slaves are not the problem because they didn't ask to be created or enslaved.
😂 I don’t mind you replaying when the scene ends badly, I like seeing the multiple endings!
Play the way you want to play. I liked playing trying to make the choices that fit the character’s personality for my first run. Then my second run, I aimed for my desired outcomes.
Don't fret about wanting to re-do the chapters until you get an ending you like. Although I wouldn't recommend it either, the devs added the possibility of doing so, and it's a totally valid way to enjoy it.
This game is specifically designed to be replayed many times with large variation, and 'failure' is not normally a bad choice - don't worry so much about making the 'wrong' decisions, nearly all decisions will progress the story in a meaningful way.
If you really want to see all the possibilities, wait until you have finished the game at least once - you'll have plenty of unexplored options to see, and the story will likely unfold in different ways entirely.
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Why does no one ever understand that the stress needs to to UP not down the game is apparently not very clear about that
I think it's just as natural for people to want to get someone's stress down 😅
1:18:29 Right back at you, my mirror friend.
I ACTUALLY FREAKING SUFFERED WHEN HES TRYING TO INTORAGATE
Im so mad that i cant even spell it properly
Love your let’s plays and you should do what you want so take this or leave it, but in my opinion you are dangerously close to robbing yourself of the whole point of this experience if you keep replaying scenes.
Sadly you are making assumptions and playing as though this was a typical RPG or adventure game, but that is not what this is. This game is as much or more about the journey than getting to the most optimal ending. You cannot experience everything in one play through, even replaying parts of chapters doesn’t make sense as actions affect multiple chapters and acts. Finally stop looking at the flowchart until the end of chapter, it’s pushing you to meta game and miss the more important aspects of the game. There are elements that you should be focusing on but I’m not sure you’ve realised that.
Having said all that please don’t stop expressing your thoughts and opinions while playing, it’s really refreshing to hear them and bring up lots of interesting points. It’s part of what I love about watching you play games.
11:39 Tears aren't just an emotional response, most animals either can produce tears or have some sort of membrane to protect their eyes.
Tears are an important biological function because they clean and lubricate our eyes.
As far as why the androids can cry specifically? Probably to reduce uncanny valley.
Or,
Because he can feel.
Yes I know what tears are lol
I personally don't mind if you want to replay chapters, I like to see the different ways it can go.
No offense but the restart on connors death was kind of a bad move.
If something happens it happens, that is kinda how this game is supposed to work.
To be honest I don't mind you replaying certain sections especially like the case when a character 'dies'. Feel free to replay it if its case like that and than maybe after the playthrough just explore what the other options are.
Good video! Just please ignore the flowchart, the experience will be better in my opinion.😊
I have always wondered, whenever it comes to androids, why they are always, ALWAYS, physically OP'd? Why would we build synthetic individuals who could crush us like soda cans? Wouldn't it make more sense to build them either with normal human strength (given that human mimicry is the supposed desired outcome) or, as in FO4 with the Synths, have a verbal shut-down code? Just something I've always been curious about. I'm looking forward to new episodes! 😊
I agree it's always kinda weird, but I'm not sure if it's the case in Detroit? the few physical altercations we've seen the androids don't seem to have super strength or anything, then again they don't feel pain so I guess that's always an advantage eheh
14:14 i think for this it's mainly because they want to know the *cause*, or like, what makes the specific android deviant. or what made them "switch".. so they interrogate them. also it's something that never happened before (androids doing crimes) so i suppose they don't actually know how to approach it.
also for the earlier thing at the studio with "maybe they really forgot to switch the lights off" that's the thing, marcus wouldn't forget, carl even said that "you never forget anything do you marcus?" (or something like that..)
yeah i like this approach more without checking the flowchart a lot cause it in turn makes the scenes and gameplay flow better:) but i still like how you're interested in all the branching, cause some people i feel like just skip it and aren't amazed how many options there are to explore so, yeah, i like that part of this gameplay:D looking forward to the next part
hey Lukael! You can't really see ALL of the game. It has like 70+ hours worth of content.
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Quality time!
Ha ha ha. You can't help yourself but analyse the flowcharts, can you? :D
Tried to keep it to a minimum in this episode but it's still hard not to analyze it 😅
Lots of advice in these comments so I'll just give you my reaction...
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I'm late to viewing this episode this week.
I've only just started the episode but there's something I want to correct about what you said after the "broken" chapter at around 11min 25sec (don't worry, not a spoiler or anything, just a little lore correction).
You mentioned that "We've seen so many of these homicides involving androids that it doesn't seem strange...Seems to happen all the time"
Homicides involving androids are seen as extremely rare in this world. There's miss-able information in the first mission of the game - you have to watch the TV screen on the fridge in the kitchen for a news report - that reveals Daniel is the very first ever android to commit homicide (actually even harm to a human at all).
Daniel is the very first Android to harm humans in September 2038, then we jump forwards to Nov 5th to start the rest of the game, when deviancy has begun spreading causing more and more cases of Androids rebelling and harming humans. It would be still be a shock to the public or police force to come across a scene where it appears an android has harmed a human.
It's annoying that the game doesn't provide more information about how rare deviancy was and that Daniel was the first Android to kill a human as this information is so easily missed (I missed it on my first playthrough like you).
It explains why the "public opinion" starts so low as it's now known that there has been at least 1 android committing homicide.
Anyway, going to watch the rest of the episode now so will add more feedback for any questions you throw to us.
You should have played episode 4 by now (maybe even 5), hope you are really enjoying it, and looking forward to seeing the future episodes
Ooooh I see, that makes sense. Thanks for the clarification! That's definitely very relevant and important information that the game could have made a bit more clear! A quick line of dialogue from the police like "we've never seen this happen before" or something like that
@@LukaelPlays yeah, there's a few more examples of world building information and/or details that enhance the overall story that are easily miss-able. Some things you'd imagine the Devs would want the player to know for context. Like you say, a few additional passive NPC comments about the subjects would be ideal.
Thankfully with your play style though, you haven't missed anything else as a lot of this info is provided through the magazines which you've been finding since you are so thorough 👍🏻
Btw, I'm sure you've noticed that things are beginning to get pretty wild now after finishing ep4. Strap in mate, things will continue to get crazier with each chapter moving forward.
Once again, great playthrough so far ✌🏻 I'd definitely recommend a reaction video exploring the extras once you've finished the story - the videos are all really interesting, as are the character bios in the model viewer (although containing soft spoilers so not ideal to read before completing).
In terms of seeing what's on offer that you'll miss in your first playthrough. You could also do an alternative run where you go against your initial instincts, or replay specific chapters to see alternative routes. Either way, I'm sure your viewers would love to see you explore alternative scenes as this game is packed with incredibly well acted scenes that some of us will have never seen!
13:23 we definitely DO wanna see you play it at least twice. AT LEAST. Maybe play it again right away and again in a year.
I would watch the sht out of a let's play exploring all paths because i feel the meaty part of the discussion relies on how the machines would act and react to the different inputs they are given. First playthrough would be the story per se, second one would bring in the setting itself, the possibilities and the conjectures.
Oh and btw don't stress over going back and replaying things if you don't like the way the story is going, its your game and you should experience it the way you want to experience it, its impossible to please everyone and i'm sure there are both purists who want the story to flow and completionists who want you to try everything in your audience, one group will always be disappointed so might as well do things your way.
Please let yourself experience an organic playthrough. Replaying really detracts from the flow of the game.
Looking at the flowchart is also against a blind experience..
I think you should trust the game and immerse more in the experience. Your decisions are part of The game and story. If you made a bad one, then it is like this. Have trust in yourself and your gut. :) Just my 2 cents, of course everyone can play the game they want.
"TWENTY-EIGHT stab wounds!!!!!"
I am kind of speechless at the interrogation scene. I'm not going to really comment and just leave it to the Spoiler Annies out there, but that was certainly a ride.
What I will say, though, don't beat yourself up over missing the optimal stress indicator. You wouldn't believe how many people I have seen mess that up.
1:30:14 You are forgiven, sir.
It went about as poorly as it could it seems 🤣
@@LukaelPlays oh, believe me - you didn't xD and at any rate - it's just a game. Mistakes are a part of it
@@LukaelPlaysyeah but that’s the point with this type of a game. It’s not about doing a chapter perfectly or even needing to get a good outcome. Just as in real life good actions can result in bad outcomes and sometimes the reverse can happen. Perhaps think of this as a movie, would you be happy watching a movie where nothing bad happens or would you rather watch something a bit more gray, with risks, where there is a chance of something shocking or unexpected happens to keep you intrigued?
You are going to have 60+ episodes if you keep replaying. The choices are going to branch SO much more. If you retry, maybe only do 1 retry per characters episode? 🤷🏻♂️
You need to not replay chapters just because you can't play properly, if you actually played on you would have found out connors death is not permanent, so you are actually killing content and making this series less honest by replaying like this. Just saying.
21:36 Ok, gonna call ya out here a bit. This is a huge issue in our own world, always has been and still is, and your reactions to it is a perfect example.
You say about the cigarette burn that if he can't feel then they don't matter.
And that is utter bullshit.
We as a people focus so heavily on the physical and ignore the emotional. Men and women can yell and argue, children can tease and mock. We can do these things all we want, but as soon as someone raises a hand it becomes suddenly a terrible thing.
Yet, look at people suffering from depression, trauma induced anxiety. Look at people that have cone from abusive homes and relationships. The common factory amongst them all is the emotional trauma they suffer. And most of that is caused not by punches and other physical abuse. It is caused by the INTENT and words that drive and accompany the abuse.
It is so ingrained into western culture to avoid violence and use our words, that it has become twisted to mean say anything, but don't hit.
The game has shown from the beginning that these androids do indeed have feelings and desires of their own. Daniel broke his programming not because he would be replaced, but because he felt betrayed. Programming or intelligence, the results are the same. He FELT the betrayal.
This interrogation shows that this android was openly subjected to physical abuse for months. And hunan nature what it is, those cigarette burns aren't from the result of simply stubbing them out. No. There is no doubt he lived with constant verbal and other physical abuse for years.
The cigarette burns, and other forms of physical abuse aren't the cause.
It is the symptom.
Verbal abuse carries a far deeper, and more permanent, emotional trauma than physical abuse.
At many times during this playthrough you are inconsistent with your view of the androids. Part of it is you are switching from them as a game, to them as people, and that leads to inconsistencies. Part of it is trying to get an ideal game and find everything, trying to choose the optimal outcomes.
But this game doesn't seem like it was designed that way. Either play it as a game and ignore the story, or invest in it and consider what the androids would do.
Just because they aren't natural, organic humans, doesn't mean they aren't people.
It reminds me of the Star Trek Next Generation episode where they are in court trying to prove if Data is alive or not.
That was stupid because it is meaningless. Cows, pigs, chickens, etc are all alive ve yet we raise them to slaughter for our food. The real question is the same as it is in the game.
Is Data, like these androids, a person? Not human, but a person.
I agree with you, but I feel like I explained as such in the video? I guess maybe I didn't explain it enough lol like yeah they don't feel the physical pain, but it would still hurt them to be attacked, abused, or even insulted and belittled.
Also, especially at this earlier point in the playthrough, I was still getting to learn and understand how the androids even function, and how the deviancy works. A purely robotic android would not care about being abused, but an android that has feelings but whose will is shackled by its programming would.
Why do you consider my view of the androids inconsistent?
You shouldn't do any replaying, if you lose a character then yeah it sucks but it is what happens at a blind playthrough.. However you should do an extra episode after the main series is done where you just explore all options and stuff
Dude overthinks everything, the whole point of the game is going through a custom story told by your decisions and then everything you didn't do is an excuse for replay...
Overthinking everything is how I tend to play most games 😅I can't stop my brain from doing its thing
DON'T LOOK AT THE CHART!!! STICK TO YOUR CHOICES goddamnit
You can do another play through the game failing to do everything. It WILL be entertaining because of your reaction, stop playing god and just do your best normally. I hoped you had forgotten the flow chart (that are only used to complete or experiment with the game after finishing) and just continue to play... You bended to fear, it's fine. But I advice against it.
Bro, just play the game.
I’m sorry but personally I can’t keep watching you play this and reloading when you don’t like the outcome, I get wanting to see different paths and not wanting to lose characters but that’s the nature of the game and you can always do another play though for other outcomes, it’s sad as I was really enjoying the way you were playing at first and was willing to let the last episode slip but then you immediately reloaded when Connor got shot and for that reason I just can’t keep watching 😞