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F-22 Raptor VS Ten North Korean MIG-29's BVR!👍
YF-12 VS MIG-31 BVR!👍
This fight didn't go well, next time more luck! 😲🛦😂😉😄😆😛🍀
Damn, Growling, that Foxhound had you for lunch after you dodged the first missile.
Bro MiG-31 FoxHound
"I dont expect him to shoot any sooner than that"
*_Mig at 152 miles: Lol_*
LMAO
LMAO foxhound is a BEAST.
4:47 "Half of you were expecting me to explode right there, don't lie."
Not gonna lie, he had us in the first half.
exactly!...I was expecting the missile to explode somewhere near the plane!! 😂😂🤣
I feel so called out lol
Classic....😆
I can't hold out my laugh
Lol aged well
GS: "If we can get to the merge, he's dead."
MiG-31: "...If."
😂😂😂😂😂
6:37
I like how innocent Sidewinder's voice is for a person who only have 31 more seconds to live for. Precisely.
Lold, this is a great comment. 😂
"MiG" 31 seconds lol
@@saadsajidul9001 yeah, in russian "mig" as a word means a moment, a very short period of time.
@@zloychechen5150 blink of an eye exactly
@@zloychechen5150 seriously?I thought it meant Mikoyan guervich
I was kinda hoping Jester would do his routine of getting scared and punching out prematurely. I guess those team building exercises are finally working, or maybe he didn't have time.
Thats what he gets for having any faith at all
he's been watching Jocko's motivational videos
That evening at the paintball with the crew really paid off. Well done Jester!
Jester ejecting is probably best since he turns into something useful, the ultimate version of chaff.
Fox 2!...Jester's dead!
Never have I seen GS struggle this much on any even somewhat "fair" fight.
It would be fair against the Foxbat, the Foxhound is a whole another beast.
@@ricardohumildebrabo Well I do consider this as a fair fight compared to some other fights GS has done. Thats why I put fair in quatation marks.
@@hullukana214 If it was a MiG-25 then it would have been a fair fight, MiG-31 is much more advanced
@@ricardohumildebrabo IMO that one's as much of a missmatch in favour of the F-14.
Amen
For those of you that were disappointed he dodged the first missile, here's a montage of GS exploding
😂😂
The MiG-31 made it's first flight 5 years later than F-14, i think the soviet engineers have considered the threat of Tomcats. The Foxhound had a two-band PESA with a diameter of 110 centimeters compared to Tomcat's 36 inch x-band pulse-Doppler.
Thats the whole point of the 31.. its a dedicated long range interceptor ..its job to fire as far away as posible and run away at MACH 2.5 if engaged or out of missiles.. its utterly less flexible than any other fighter but in its role its awfully good
Please next time just give all the measurements either in metric or imperial. Don't mix them up
@@professionalprocrastinator8103 imperial for us yanks that live in the dark ages
@@jebediahgentry7029 Metric for the rest of the 95% of total population that live in various different ages.
@@hullukana214 I know
"...designed to shoot down the SR-71 Blackbird." Made me do a double take mid sip of my drink. I like fast,but I forgot it goes that fast.
after the mig-25 (3,6 mach, 39km alt.) and its huge twin rockets (not missiles) had forced the US to cease and desist from its sr-71 flights over the CCCP...
@@marcdunord The US stopped direct overflight recon missions 6 years before the SR-71 (and a decade before the Foxbat) entered service because of the Francis Gary Powers shootdown. The Foxbat could only exceed Mach 3 for a few seconds, so it wasn't a serious threat to the Blackbird (or, ironically, to the plane it was designed to intercept, the XB-70) anyway.
@@kvant13
Lol, we still overfly Soviet soil. With a multitude of platforms. We never stopped...
@@BeingFireRetardant In your dreams I gather, because the Soviet state (USSR) no longer exists. :-D
@@saranjs3365
It does in all but name.
“Half of you were expecting me to explode right there.” Mate, everyone who’s seen more than a couple of your videos was expecting you to explode right there.
been a while since I have seen GS go full send to defend. crazy the foxhound fired that first missile at 150+NM ! what range that Foxhound really did have. I guess its lack of dog-fighting was really made up in its awesome radar system. Thanks always for the awesome videos and content GS! Much love bud!!
radar is 1.4 meters in diameter, detection range of 400 km for 20 m2 RCS.
it does not lack dog-fighting, it does not dog-fight :D
You know the radar of Mig-31 is so developed that it is estimated that only four of these are required just to monitor a 1000 square mile air space!
Mig 31 has very powerful radar, and F-14 has a massive rcs. Both combined means it can detect and track F14 from very far away.
@@dzungpham5160 which is interesting as it has a cannon in the fuselage!
The Mig-31 is no joke it’s radar is ridiculously powerful, it’s basically a flying S-400. Thats why Russia still keeps them in service and is constantly upgrading them. The new variant just released is the BM2 which will make the aircraft significantly more lethal with a new radar, new engines, and new avionics.
So then the question is, how would an F-22 do against the MiG-31?
@@glsracer in DCS?
@@user-wn7qf4pm3z yes
@@glsracer i think is no reason, stealth mechanics realised incorrectly in the sim
@@user-wn7qf4pm3z you could be right. Just thought it would be an interesting video but not necessarily a scientific endeavor
Missile launch at 150nm going Mach 7+, "Come on Jester, we're turning around and heading back to the boat" LOL
Tomcat: _"Phoenix has 70 miles range!"_
Foxhound: _"Hold my beer..."_
*vodka
*"Hold my Afterburner"*
hold my R-33
*Hold my bear
@@user-wn7qf4pm3z *R-37M)
I was expecting to have a cutoff at “missiles on my six we are good”
Domination in dog fights is all well and good but I love nothing more than watching GS explode.
The MiG-31 seems brutal in BVR combat.
it is made mainly for that...
the radar pushes out 1+MW peak power...more then many long range *ground* radars...
Yeah, put the Eurofighter vs it lets see who win that.
It's a one trick pony. Designed for high speed/altitude interception of bombers, AWACS, recon, etc. And although it's a one tick pony it does that trick very... VERY well.
Deadly in BVR, dogshit in a dogfight.
Would have loved to see a brief tacview debrief here so we could better understand the capabilities of the missile.
"Here we go again missile ______" the words you never want to hear from jester unless you know there is a missle coming for you
Hey GS. Been watching since a little before 100k and just wanted to say thanks! I never comment (this is the first time ever lol) but I do read the comments section a good bit and I see how engaged you are with your audience. I think that’s super admirable. Love the content, and I’m excited to see what you do next. I’ll be here whether you see my name in the comments or not!
Hi there, thank you very much, I appreciate your support and your first comment, I'm very grateful for subs like yourself.
@@GrowlingSidewinder this is a cool comment. I'm very new to the channel. Only a few weeks but in that time I've probably watched your last 50 videos at least. Probably more. Serious rabbit hole shit here. Can't get enough. Have a great day.
Big plane, big radar, big missiles.
...big problem.
I haven't laughed that hard in a while. Futility at its finest.
That aircraft and weapon system kept NATO up at night. It was designed to hunt B-1B's IN the ground clutter. Not A models at altitude. Find Lancers in the valleys going at the speed of heat and knock them out like ducks in a shooting gallery. Definitely why the B-2 worth more than it's weight in gold bullion was given the go ahead and why the Space Shuttle was flying so many NRO missions in the late 1980's and early 90's.
@@seanpenglase6639 maybe we know that today but surely NATO didn't know the exact weaknesses of it at the time, therefore making it much scarier
@@birbeyboop You guys are talking about the mig 25
Same!
“I bet half of you were expecting me to explode there, huh?”
*minutes later*
Literally eating his words 🤣
At a certain point when the enemy gets dominant enough at BVR, the only thing for it is to notch all the way to the merge. Very weird for an F-14 to need to employ the Mirage shuffle, but here we are.
Mirage going to the BVR intercept : "Keep on cranking! Keep on cranking! Keep on cranking!" (To the sound of Dory in Finding Nemo)
@@debbiestimac5175 just keep cranking, just keep cranking cranking cranking, shubdubidu were craaaaaanking 🐟
@@kingkoolkata 🤣👍
Notching doesn't work all that well against PESA radars like the one in the 31, or so have I heard.
@@doctorstrangeman7772 The data on the MiG is inaccurate. /s
The Ron Swanson clip at the end was gold.
Never seen you struggle like that before, a great video nonetheless mind you!
I like how Jester calls out those missiles 10 seconds before impact so you have time to think about deaths icy imbrace with ample warning
And not enough time to escape. Nicely slotted in to make a worst case scenario
if it was a slower missile he could probably dodge it, but in no way you could dodge a missile faster than yourself
6:47 "So why don't we just go ahead and recommit here." - Growling Sidewinder
Foxhound - "So you have chosen, death."
I absolutely love the family friendly sounds of GS dying over and over to mig-31
I wish it wasn't censored
Tomcat is an amazing heavy platform and the most ambitious western one ever in my opinion (and arguably the best), but the Foxbat and Foxhound are in a class of their own when it comes to these extreme distance, supersonic BVR engagements. Foxhound is to this day the benchmark for super heavy air dominance platforms
Nah, the foxbat would get clapped by the tomcat as hard as it would get clapped by the foxhound
@@hp2084 russia just upgrades everything due to their procurement system being anemic
@@jacobbateson8215 the US and EU do the same
@@magatsu8832 , the Foxbat wasn't meant to clap the F-14. It was designed for recon and clapping Bombers. The Foxhound was meant to make everything flying high its own lil b.
@@PhoeNix-vs8fe Not to the extent the Russians do. The last mass produced original airframe to come out of Russia was the Su-27/30 series, and its numerous "new variants" even discounting the Chinese copies. The Su-57 was a flop and the 75 is a pipe dream that I'll personally be surprised to see leave prototype stages. Meanwhile, there are more brand new F-35s in service than any of the Su-27 and its variants.
Then Europe has developed and produced appreciable numbers of Eurofighter, Rafale, Gripen whilst also procuring F-35s and working on next-gen aircraft.
So sure, we may make upgrades to older airframes, F-18, F15, 16 etc but atleast the new ones bear fruit.
That R-37M is faster than most bullets. Holy shit
Faster than all actually...
faster than even the fastest anti-tank rounds, by a significant margin
Mig-31 itself is faster than most bullets
@@davidlow8104 Yup. APFSDS with current propellants tops out at ~Mach 4
@@Registered_Simp allegedly therer is an APFSDS of the T-14 armata under development to go 2km/s, but even that is about 18% slower
I remember reading about the MiG 25 as a kid and being mesmerized at its appearance and how large the intakes and nozzles are. Fast forward to growing up and learning about radar units and I realized how potent the MiG 31 must be at BVR engagements. This video went exactly as I expected it would lol
Farout, first time seeing Sidewinder like really really struggle against a "fair opponent" this was ridiculous.
On a side note, wonder if we'll ever get the Tornados, really really want them.
Sorry, this is what frustrates me about DCS - the lack of 'actual' full-fidelity REDFOR modules - I would LOVE to see all REDFOR MIGs, SUKHOIs, etc but no third parties are concentrating on these - obviously because of publicly available info but yet it is still frustrating
agreed, but all in good time brother, I think DCS has really blown up the past few years and that extra player base and cash flow has really allowed them to expand their module base, I have faith that more redfore will come.
Never forget that DCS is a Russian entity/founders. No one wants to kick the bear, when it lives under your front doorstep, especially during wartime like today. "We only made weapon system features accurate comrade! Why you pull pistol! (gets on knees) I am sorry, I will make F-16 shit again! F-22 will die from turning at all, come straight apart if thrust vector used! Nooooooo! (single gunshot heard from dacha outside Moscow)
@@debbiestimac5175 Maybe that's why they moved their HQ to Switzerland
@@GrowlingSidewinder you mean the migs like the 31 and the 35 will be moduled
@@cockatoo010 Switzerland isn't very far from Moscow.
Mig 31 is like:
Ivan why we dont have c300 in this location, out homeland is need protection
Okay lets give c300 a wings and give it huge SAM missiles
The Foxhound can fly to the edge of space, and it's radar can kill a rabbit on the runway at 200 feet. Foxhound's radar can burn through enemy jamming, through brute force. I wasn't aware of the missles the Mig 31 carried. I haven't viewed all of Sidewinder's videos, but I've not seen him outclassed this badly before. The Foxhound is the ultimate interceptor.
See? This is why I love the Foxhound, It's a giant, Somehow floating slab of various alloy/ore with a major anger issue
But dam, Even I flinched at those hits
Glad I'm not the only one who struggles against the Mig 31! Keep up the good work GS!
P.S. you should try the F-22 against the Mig 31
YES YES!! please GS try a BVR engagement with F-22 against this Mig-31
@MERCBENZ After the final fight I literally thought he was gonna appear in an F-22 😂
That is a useless fight because stealth in dcs is modelled in a way so radars cant see the plane at all regardless of the range which is not realisctic, but even if it were it would be useless because the 31 has to come to about 10-30 miles (only my guess) to see it on radar and that would not happen
Not even a contest. He's probably going to be in a merge before the Foxhound picks him up lmao. F-22 will win that one.
Stealth in DCS seems to mean "won't be detected at all" rather than "will be detected later" so it's gonna become one-sided in another sense
This is a small demonstration of how oppressive super long range missiles can be supported by mid-course corrections using techniques such as tws, tvm or passive sensing.
Yeah, now imagine this but there's also a squadron of Flankers inbound.
The mig 31 is such a cool bit of kit, be good to see more of it on the channel
8:15
"Is that my phoenix missile trail?.....NOPE"
Well, considering that the MiG31 was made to be an advanced form of the MiG25, a pure interceptor, Mach3 capable and with the famous Zeslon Radar, its main mission was to actually shoot down incoming ICBMs and Satelites. It has the speed, the ceiling and the missiles to do it.
If you think of an interceptor, think the MiG31, because no other excels at this role like this one!
There's a full documentary on the development of the MiG-25 and the MiG-31 by Wings of Russia. Bother aircraft were cutting-edge Soviet engineering. A significant amount of workload on the MiG-31 is automated. All the pilot needs to do is play space invader on the radar display.
It's a suicide mission
And supersonic bombers. The west was shocked at how crude the mig 25 was constructed when they finally got a hold of one, but as essentially a mach 3 deterrence-deterrent launch platform, it was sufficient. You don't need a lot of manouverability when your target is flying in a straight line.
The Mig-31's main mission was not to shoot down ICBMs and satellites. It was to intercept aircraft and cruise missiles. It may have some secondary anti-satellite role, like the F-15 would have had with the ASM-135 ASAT, but no ICBM intercept capability.
@@FlintIronstag23 it does. I recomend watching red wings documentary, it explains the evolution of the MiG25 and 31
7:00
"Missile! 11 o'clock!"
Growling Sidewinder, literal seconds away from his demise, "w h a t"
Glad I stayed to the end....I had a feeling I knew how this one was gonna turn out.
This was incredible! That huge leadup with the first flight...then all the others in rapid succession.... and of course Ron Swanson at the end. I'm dying!
Whatever the MiG-31 sacrificed in dogfight capabilities is definitely made up for in its role as a long range ultra high speed interceptor.
Mig-31 is a fucking missile with wings and a powerful radar that carries more missiles
As someone who's only been playing since January, I know that stress you are feeling, but it's oddly satisfying to know sometimes no matter how good you are, sometimes it's not going to save you.
Love you bud, sorry you went through this.
F4 Phantom: "I'm proof that a brick can fly if you put a big enough engine on it."
MiG-31: "Hold my vodka."
One of your best videos here recently. Haven't laughed so hard in a good while. The ending clip had me in tears after all that.
You won't have to dogfight, if there is no one to dogfight - Mig 31 Probably.
The Ron Swanson ending was perfect!
ngl, now i really want to see BVR engagement between the F 15 and the MIG 31. I never expect its radar and fox 3 to be so powerful
I actually did bvr with F15 against the foxhound and i can tell you i have the same experience like GS, foxhound is a beast of interceptor
Must be frustrating on the receiving end but if you are outranged on both radar and missile I found it satisfying to see those factors dominate, and against the F-14!
I believe in BVR supremacy
This is why stealth is invented :)
Damn! Never seen GS get handed his ass so many times at once.
Appreciate the honesty though. Few would post something like this.
Keep up the good work GS!
MiG-31 vs F-15,let's see
mig-31 ofc lol F-15 has even less of a chance
Bonus points for the Ron Swanson ending.
The Mig-31 has the Radar blip of a B-52...your Radar should see it at 250 Miles out.
Well, your mum has the radar blip of a blue whale, yet noone ever notices her
I spent years aboard the USS Eisenhower CVN69 in the early 1980's with two F-14 squadrons aboard, VF-142 and VF-143 and they never carried six Phoenix missiles. Just two on the wing pylons because they're so heavy it puts too much stress on the airframe to carry that much weight on the underbelly.
I guess that's only for navy operated tomcats that have to land on a carrier cause our ones have flown with 6 missiles numerous times
@@itspersiangulfmoron.repeat2242 Yeah, 6 Phoenix exceeds max carrier landing weight for the Tomcat, I was also aboard the IKE in the 80's and 90's, did 4 deployments...Typical carrier loadout was 2 Phoenix, 3 Sparrow, 2 Sidewinder, drop tanks and 675 20 mm rounds
Been still learning the Tomcat and this video sums up most of my PVP experiences in BVR.... This jet is not easy to fly when you barely have time on weekends to practice. I would love more BVR videos in the F14. Thousands of dollars on my computer and I often feel like you at the end of this video lol
It's kind of amusing to see GS on the receiving end for once...
The beeping had me laughing pretty hard. Great video as per usual GS.
Lol, I started laughing at 8:50 as well. Lol.
I'm not sure how fast the R-37 stays during its flight but at mach 5 it's doing a mile a second. That just seems absurdly fast.
Seriously, the people who engineer these types of things are amazing.
Wait until the scramjet works like they want. Mach 5 will be nothing. Hell the scramjet just starts working at Mach 5 lol
That Foxhound is no joke for any aircraft. It’s like having a sniper at 50k feet with 150 mile vision
I love how it went from testing against the Hypersonic missles to a death compilation 🤣🤣🤣
Missile Evasion for the R-37M
1) See the Missile Spike.
2) You are dead.
#GrowlingSidewinder. When the Fox 3 was launched at 150+nm by the Fox hound ... I was like holy shit....and then your first experience with the R 37M came to my mind and I was beaming because today we would get some awesome last quotes. You didn't disappoint either. The innocence and haplessness 😂😂😂😂
P.S The Fox hound is a beast though. A track and launch at 150 miles is mind boggling to say the least. Even you didn't expect a 150 miles launch.
Mig-31 showing some unexpected dominance in a fight. Very impressive
unexpected? there is a saying "everybody gangster till Mig-31 shows up" bc one mig-31 can be enough to fight off multiple planes
Unexpected dominance???? In what parallel universe do you live? BVR is Mig-31's bread and butter and it sits alone at the top of that trade.
The R-33S specifically built for the MiG-31 to work with Zaslon at low altitudes. It was made for cruise missile interception mainly, but by virtue of performing so well down low, it also performs very well at high altitudes. The R-40 was designed to shoot down the SR-71, and its introduction basically stopped entirely flyovers of SR-71s in areas where MiG-25s were present, for example Syria and Egypt.
I just saw the sequel to this. Great movie btw. Highly recommend. TGM FOREVER
That was the best ending ever. lol Even in multiple defeats, you still managed to entertain. Well done sir
Cutting back and forth to that first missile felt like watching a freight train barreling toward a kid playing on the tracks.
The last minute of this video has been my entire experience so far on DCS. I felt every bit of that with my soul!
-The Noob Pilot
I've been watching your channel for so long - it's amazing to see the work you've put in pay off like this. Easily the best DCS channel there is. Not just GR slap a shitty 30 minute non edited video together. This is quality.
That was brutal. The MiG 31 doesn't dogfight because it doesn't have to.
It can't either. Wasn't made to, was made to intercept fast and hard.
God the range of that thing, insane. When I saw Mach 7 even I clenched up. Ron Swanson at the end was gold. :D
I wonder what the rules are regarding dropping the fuel tanks. Imagine being a goat and getting bonked by a supersonic fuel tank
Lol - this video reminded me of the first Dr. Strange movie - when he gets killed over and over by Dormammu...
Jester: "here we go again"
CJ: "hey..."
Nice fight GS 🤙
An Interceptor that transcended its era
The MiG-31 Foxhound (with its Heavy Zaslon Radar)
The BM variant can be a mini-Awacs, but now the Flanker-H Su-30SM can do the same thing
The newer videos are such high quality. I have been watching for a while and watch one of your videos before going to sleep lol.
Your editing is 25/10. The beeps after dying, cutting the clips shorter and shorter, fantastic 😂
I think it helps to have an F-22.
When THAT happens Repeatedly despite everything we try, it's always the feeling to throw away our rig in anger ..... That last bit sums it up 😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I have never laughed so hard before at someone else's misfortune. Thank you GS!
4:47 i was waiting for that cool missile noise and black screen “killed in action “
I love the videos. Keep it up.
Never have I laughed so hard at watching my favorite aircraft getting blown to bits.
Good job and thanks for being absolutely humble. You learn as much from what doesn't work as what does work.
I learnt from you guys a few years back mig31 needs you to use all your missiles to kill it, 5 to keep him from shooting you, 1 for when you finially get him within range. the master has become the apprentice
Well, in reality, MiG-31 was the first plane that used AESA radar and its first version had the range of at least 400km. Modernized versions, probably more. After all, it was designed to launch missiles at multiple targets at long range. In dogfights, if you manage to get close to him, he is most likely easy meat...
That was an EPIC finale !!!! LOL !!!! Thank you !!
Love these kind of videos too. GS is not about "easy mode".
"Is that my Phoenix missiles trail... no, it's his"... famous last words 😂
great video
vid is 9 min and it just got released
@@dashflash4824 shhhhhhhhh
@@dashflash4824 So watch the vid instead of coming to the comment section!
"Foxhound what is best in life?"
"To outrange Growling Sidewinder, to see him ejecting before me, and to hear the lamentations of his WSO!"
Hey G.S.,
Good show man, the 31 is definitely a tough opponent. Try something for me though: slow down. I know, seems crazy right? However, in order for you to defend from his extremely fast missile, you need to be as, if not more agile than it is to get inside a more advantageous position and range. Many believe you must be high and fast (+35K and +1.1M) to effectively employ the AIM-54; I'll offer that you don't have to waste the gas to get good results. The -60 variant is definitely capable of +70nm shots in TWS if fired at above 30K and .85M. Not only that, but at .85/.9M you will retain the agility needed to evade and reposition.
The Foxhound and Foxbat are two of my favorite aircraft! Happy to see one in a video!
If the USSR didn't collapse, Mikoyan were really coming into their own in the 1990s. R-37 and R-33S already on the books.... MiG-31M already prototyped. MiG i.42/i.44 were halfway built and likely would have entered service before Y2K.
Imagine being a Tomcat pilot in 199~2 with MiG-31s firing R-37s at you before the Backfires even pop up on radar to fire unabated at your carrier group.
Basically, there were about 2 5-year windows when the USSR would have been extremely dangerous conventionally: At the tail end of the Gen3 fighters 1970-1975 (MiG-23 and MiG-25 non-export models were decent compared to F-4 as far as missile trucks go),
and... 1991-1996 with a fictional healthy Soviet economy.
I agree, but then also consider N-ATF, A-12, etc., joining USN fleets if the USSR had not collapsed
@@bsd107
True, that's why these are such narrow windows.
US typically comes out with the following Generation before the Soviets, and therefore it's a turkey-shoot for another 10 years.
But nothing was quite ready for mass production in time for Soviet Gen4+.
Fast-tracked, 5th gen might have been available in quantities enough to be of concern to the Soviets by the mid-late 90s.
But scary to think about - we only got around to helmet-mounts in the 2010s. We learned about the effectiveness due to the USSR collapse (and fire sale of all Soviet tech, east German aggressor squads, etc). The alternative would have been learning in combat.
Well that blew! MiG 31 is the real deal. Pretty simple really. Put gigantic engines on titanium airframe and it will fly as high as you need it to.
Yesssssssssssssssssss!!!!!!! Thank youuuuu!!!
I thank whoever has been liking all of my request comments. I hope you see this!
I almost spit beer into my dinner when Ron Swonson showed up! Haha