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Hey mate, i really really needed to get a vpap or bipap (not cpap because it doesnt work with me) do you know which is the safest resmed i should get that doesnt have this sort of foam or problem? Thanks man
Get well soon Nicko! My S9 Auto has 24,000 hours on it and keeps going like the Energizer Bunny. 🐰 I can only imagine what the turbine must look like. It has become quite loud over the years. I live in an area where wild fires are common and air quality takes a dive during the fire season.
Got my S9 brand new in 2006 it's making horrible noises the last couple nights. I attempted to take mine apart and decided it was best to leave it alone and reassemble. Luckily it still works with the horrible worrying noise included. I believe it's time to replace being the average usage life for a cpap is 3-5 years. Good video and thanks for sharing.
Thanks heaps for this S9 information Nicko and i hope you feel better soon. Are these turbines available for off the shelf purchase by the general public?
When will the uploader be available for purchase again so that I can use sleep hq. When do you think resmed will come up with a new bipap machine. I love your videos very informative.
Hi Brian, the Magic Uploader is available for pre-order through the SleepHQ Pro Community. Community.sleephq.com - Members only. We are shipping them out in batches to those who have registered. Cheers
@CPAPReviews Gidday mate - MY S9 gave me the warning at about 24,000 hours - thanks for reassuring us that we CAN continue using it, without risking anything. Seeing inside via your videos, has made me think about replacing the motor anyway (talk about grimy!) - Can't be great for our lungs to breath all that crud in! I assume of course, that aftermarket IS the only way to source a new motor? Is there a way to reset to zero, the usage, once the motors been replaced, or is it permanently there in the software? Thanks mate!
Is the dust the cause of getting a warning on the display of the device that the blower/motor is need of changing?,or is it when you used the maximum amount of hours that you will have to service it?..and is there something as a service point where they change the motor/blower?
Hey Nick, I hope you don't have the Covid. I use 2 standard filters in my AirSense 10 but still worry that it will be full of dust as my room is very dusty, I will be buying the Hypo allergy filters next time round. Stay safe mate.
Thank you for this informative video. I'm on the verge of requesting a replacement of my A10 and thought I might be able to go a little longer with it. Now, I'm second guessing that decision. I'm going for my upgrade soon. Also, feel better. I'm coming back from a bout of C19 and it was not fun.
Greetings from BC, Canada Nick. I have been using CPAP since 2000, and because I am now ready to upgrade from my 2011 s9, I have been plying the internet for current trends & info re the CPAP world. And what do I find……..NICK!! And that gent has largely succeeded in wooing me into purchasing a Lowenstein Prism (even though it appears that the sole models available in Canada are the Soft & Smart versions). So here is my single question for the day: IF I find that I can acquire the Prism 20A, or if I am stuck with the other 2 choices, what do you know about the serviceability of their motors with respect to the gist of your article about the s9? Thank you doctor!!
Hello Nick. I use an resmed s9. Lost my filter cover over a year ago. I’ve been diagnosed with leukemia. Do you think this is the cause of my problems.
My S9 manufactured in 2010 is still going strong. Took it apart and looks SO MUCH BETTER than that! There's a bit of dust on the blades and a bit of dust in the foam but that's that. Foam luckily doesn't look desegregated.
Hope you are ok mate!👍 Any fan will collect dust and has to be maintainable. I have a S10 and now will be using the hypoallergenic filters! Thank you. :)
Hey mate, yeah i agree! The philips ones you can take apart with a few screws and give a good clean. It's simple! ResMed has these fused casings and there's no need for it. I think they probably do it on purpose so you can't clean it. They also make the replacement hard and expensive so you end up buying a new device. Hopefully in the future that will change. Cheers
My cpap machine is the Dreamstation 1. I have used you video to remove the foam in my machine and I sleep better knowing I am not breathing in the foam.
Hope you stay well, Nick. I read studies that show that spraying your nasal passages with Saline Spray will stop the virus from going into the lungs. I use this whenever I go out in public, have one in my turck and then gargle with antibacterial mouthwash when I arrive home. Rather shocking, your video today. I will get an ultrafine filter for my Resmed 10. You are such a benefit for all cpap users, great to know what we are dealing with. A company that would develop a guaranteed safe cpap machine would make billions and help lots of people stay healthy. Advertise "Totally Non Toxic materials, guaranteed" would do it.
Hi there, thanks for the lovely comment and tips. I agree! A totally non toxic machine that had replaceable components that were easy to clean! They'd get a 10/10 from me anyway. Cheers
If there is so much dust getting past the filters, I wonder if it is getting in through poor seals to the case, preventing the air from being drawn through them. A good test of the foam filters is warm water bath. If they’re squeezed no doubt they probably will be loaded with contamination. If there’s minimal dust etc, I’d be asking where the input air to the turbine is coming from. Great video mate!
5:20. When you really think about it - this is the air you would be breathing anyway - it’s a little cleaner At least - it’s filtered anyway. Thanks for the tip on the hypoallergenic 6:48 filters! I thought I need a new start/stop switch Or to replace the whole board. but - I was able to get the top off and slowly work around 2 drops of doexit D5 into the start stop switch. after working it in a little the switch operates almost all the time now. no more having to press and release 30 times. thanks!
Hi Michael, it seems pretty coated mate. I'm not sure. I wish they made them so you could take them apart and clean. You can do it with the Philips turbine. It makes no sense to weld it shut but i guess ResMed probably wants you to just buy a new one. It's up to you brother. All the best. If you're in Australia contact my mates at CPAP Direct and tell them Nicko said to look after me haha. Cheers
Hey mate, i'm not 100% sure if you can get them for the AS11 at the moment but you could always get some from the AS10 and then cut them to size. You can buy them from most cpap outlets but if you're in the U.S - cpap.review/hypo . Perhaps just give Sleeplay a call to make sure they are the hypo filters. Cheers
I bought resmed brand hypoallergenic filters. Just do a Google search, or contact resmed. They aren't HEPA quality though. Not sure if HEPA might restrict the pump intake, causing problems. I see a HEPA filter, but it's installed after the pump. They call it 'antibacterial'.
Nicko, that just kills your reply of "Nothing wrong with a S9" to my idea of upgrading my S9 to an AS11. I'd be curious of the total run hours on that machine. Good advice on heftier filters - certainly going to on my next machine and right away on my wife's AS10...
G'day Gary, nahhhh mate, she's all good! I was referring to the foam when i messaged that and i stand by that comment ;-). The machine was pretty old (most of them S9 are now). Cheers mate. Nicko
I wonder what effect all that gunk has on the pressures achieved by the machine - both true pressure and displayed pressure? Before my Dreamstation AVAPS , I had an S9 VPAP Auto. I started getting headaches and I felt the S9 wasn’t giving me the pressures that it used to. My settings were at the max for the machine. Subsequently I was found to have an element of central sleep apnea on top of my severe obstructive sleep apnea and hence the AVAPS with the Dreamstation also providing for higher max pressures. Do you think in addition to being un-hygienic, all that gunk could compromise performance? I hope you didn’t catch the Covid and recover quickly.
Or perhaps cut those PM2.5 sheets to size. They are really cheap to buy. Bush fire season is coming up so i will give that a go this summer see if that improves the air quality.
I think we have to be a little careful as to how fine we go as it could affect the motor performance potentially. I'm not sure but limiting the airflow could impact the performance. Cheers
I am glad I saw this video. I have the Phillips Dreamstation or whatever it’s called and it’s on the recall list. Someone gave me the ResMed S9 they were no longer using and I just didn’t feel comfortable using it and now I really don’t feel comfortable using it ever. I just think of all the dust from someone else’s home being inside that machine and if someone smoked in the home it’s sure to be in that machine. I really need a new machine but our insurance is a high dollar deductible so I would have to pay for the machine out of pocket as we never meet the deductible even with a family of 7. Insurance sucks because we pay a high dollar amount just to have it and make the insurance company richer but yet we still pay for everything. If we don’t have it we get fined so it’s a lose lose situation for us anyways.
Hi After looking at your video, I think the black dust is a black perished air filter, which got sucked in and pulverised. My S9 motor is perfectly clean, however there is no power getting to the motor....motee works on 12v dc battery
This is highly dependent on your room air quality and whether you use a fine hypoallergenic filter that's always changed regularly. For example, a home in suburb Florida where the AC runs most of the time with no pets will generally have cleaner air than a home in a colder northern city with pets.
Hello from Montreal Canada Nick, right at the beginning of your video showing the interior of an old Resmed S9, we can see the white double trumpet shape tube. inside it has holes. That old device embedded in each S9 Nick sure looks like a V Com device……just saying. Cheers from up here.
Hi Jaleel, it's hard to know mate. There's a lot of foam in the S9 but i would be thinking it's probably more just standard dust from years of use. Cheers
Hope you feel better soon. I started using my Resmed S9 when we got the recall on the Dreamstation even though it said « Motor life exceeded ». Do you know if we can replace the turbines or if there is company that can do the exchange? I am in Illinois, USA.
Hi Will, thanks for your comment. I have seen them advertised from time to time although it's a difficult machine to take apart and replace. It's probably not worth it. I think the foam is safe in that device so it's probably just dust build up over the years man. I don't think it will cause to many dramas over the next few months whilst you wait for the recall replacements but certainly have look around and see what you can find. Cheers. Nicko
Regarding the dust problem I am wondering if making a large enclosed filter box might be a benefit. As as an example, use an upturned milk crate covering the CPAP machine which is clad in a foam covering as a first line of dust retardation ! Easy to clean or replace. Maybe the subscribers could come up with some other suggestions. It could be a good cottage industry for Nico and the kids ! ha ha. Currently watching the Poms collapsing in the first Test in cricket.
I am working on one for my machine ( 10 days old).. Have filter experience and these filters are CRAPEeeeeee. Needs at least a merv 8 value filter, Think merv 8 filter cut fit over the whole machine... we are on the same page. I am 81 an have time on my hands to do it.
What sort of bit did you use to get the screws out of that S9? I want to open my old one up to see if I can clean it up at least to some degree so I can use it as a backup for camping. I'd love to have seen how you broke this down.
Hey Nicko,,, I have just bought ResMed S9 Escape of marketplace for like next to nothing. And, to my surprise it has only 117 clinical hrs, and humidifier chamber still have plastic on it...😀😀 But here is the thing, i never knew S9 series have 5 models. And Escape is not the best one, it won't record AHI, just hrs of use overnight. Considering turbine still in excellent condition, is it possible to swap parts between S9 autoset and escape to make a refurbished Autoset for myself as a backup machine? Any idea where to find internal parts for S9, or if someone have a broken S9 Autoset, so that i can test my skills...🙂🙂
Hey mate, so the difference between the models is just the firmware. All the components inside the machines are exactly the same. I have done a cpap hack before and it works really well but i don't recommend you try as you can brick your machine. If you're interested just for fun then here's the vid - th-cam.com/video/FZecY3EuXlk/w-d-xo.html
@@CPAPReviews thanks Nick, for a reply. Yes, I had seen this video before and it motivated me to try configuring S9. Airbreak I believe is for Airsense 10, as it has advanced tech in it. Can be connected directly to play with firmware. However, S9 is of older technology, I highly doubt, there is anyway one can tickle around with firmware. Or if possible, please let me know will definitely try for fun... 😀😀
Too bad someone can't figure out how to make a "Cabin Filter" type element to filter out all that nasty mess. Great video , very informative. Was it difficult to get to and remove the turbine motor ??? Thank you 👍👍👍👍
Can you please tell me where I can get a turbine for my S9? Did you say $50?????? I'm going to have an appointment with my sleep doctor on Thursday. I don't want to have to get a new one if I don't need it. Thanks
Hey brother! Stay well 🙏... Airsense 9, same exact thing, gunked up motor, you may or may not remember my Airsense 10 died after only 8 months use with a rattling motor only to eventually seize... I went everywhere to find a motor, nobody wanted to just sell the motor.. same with this S9 I am refurbishing but stopped because... it has that infamous message that motor life is exceeded and it is useless for me to buy a motor and still have that message... nobody in their right mind will buy a machine even with a new motor because of Resmed and their unstoppable message.
Hi Rob, yeah i remember that mate! I wish they would either 1. Make a turbine that you could open like the Philips one or 2. Make them replaceable without the crazy high service costs. Cheers mate. Nicko
This could have been good, but wasn't. Do you realize that there are no user-repairable parts because of companies' greed? They don't want you fixing them! They want you to BUY A NEW ONE
Hey man! At first I was laughing hard "dude what, CPAP Reviews? There's even a channel for that?" And then I enjoyed your video and appreciated your efforts, in the end I was full of respect :) Thank you! Is the hypoallergenic filter you mentioned, can be applied to this model?
Wow….. I use a S9 and have used it for 10 years. I do change my filter but there is no telling how much dust is in that thing! This explains some issues that I am having with increased allergy symptoms and inability to sleep due to coughing. I am due a new machine but about to go on Medicare (USA) in a few months. It seemed easier to wait until Medicare has started than to transition from my private health insurance. I may have to just stop using my machine until then!!
Hey mate, i probably wouldn't stop using your therapy just now. Perhaps get some Hypoallergenic filters and put them on for the time being. Best wishes. Nicko
I saw that the filter that comes with the unit didn't seem fine enough. I cut larger round section out of one of my COVID masks and taped it over the pre- filter. Dusty where I live
Don’t know what you think of this Nick, but I bought a material sleeve to cover my tubing to stop condensation in the tubing. One night there was a god almighty loud bang/whistle like a train, I woke suddenly of course and there was soot in the mask and my nostrils, it was all very strange. I took the machine to Resmed who took it apart but they could find nothing wrong with it. I always thought it was static building between the tube and the material covering I had bought, but maybe it was dust….who knows, anyway after that I got the heated tubing yea !!!
@@CPAPReviews Hi Nicko, Yeah pretty nuts, gave me a fright I can tell you. The guys at Resmed even thought it might be psychic phenomena 🤣 Personally after seeing the dust in that motor you showed on your video I think it must have been a combination of dust and electrical charge caused by the friction of the nylon sleeve over the plastic tubing, but who knows. Hope you are feeling a bit better today my friend 🤗
Hi Nicko, my DME has been sending filters for my Resmed Airsense 10 that they claim are Ultrafine filters. They are labeled "CF-36850-1 Resmed PAP and Oxygen Filter". When I googled "CF-36850-1" this appears to be a standard pollen filter. Am I correct about this? Many online CPAP suppliers sell the CF-36855-1 as the Hypoallergenic Ultrafine Filter for the Resmed S9 & S10 Series, Airsense 10. Is the CF-36855-1 the filter that I should be getting?
Hey man , i'm not sure to be honest. I don't think that is a ResMed OEM filter is it? Could be an aftermarket one. I'll have to see if i can get a part number but on the ResMed site they refer to them as Hypoallergenic filters. shop.resmed.com.au/resmed-hypoallergenic-filters-12-pack/ . They are feel soft to the touch not like the rough standard ones. Cheers
Would be better if ResMed designed a machine where all airway components could be cleaned by the user. Even with the hypoallergenic filters, the filter holder doesn't really seal the filter intake well.
Hope you don't have the big C19. Early treatment saves lives. Thanks for posting about the hypoallergenic filters. Where is the best place to get those?
The S9 machine utilizes only one thin layer of that glob you showed, N0T multiple layers. As far as the contaminated cyclones, as many times as I've asked; its been insisted that internals NEVERneed cleaned or serviced . Imagine that. !
Horrified ! This is the machine I went back to using until I got the new cheap plastic Dreamstation 2. I thought I was safe ! Thanks to Nick for telling us the truth !
I wonder if you could’ve use the air compressor to blow that out? Also I would like to make this observation if you don’t use a CPAP machine then you’re breathing in the dust that’s in the room at least with the CPAP machine you have a greater chance of stopping the dust from getting into your lungs because the CPAP machine has a filter if you do not use a CPAP machine you do not have a filter except for your nose but you have that regardless. Just a thought. I hope you do not have Covid
Hi Anthony, i don't think so mate but it's a good idea. It's a fair point you make however there's a whole lot more airflow compared to normal breathing so there's a whole lot extra dust and particles that are getting pulled in from the air. Cheers man. Nick
@@CPAPReviews Well... I use an S9, not sure if I should just junk it now, so even though I like your video, I don't like that I've a problem to deal with. Still better to know.
Thanks I still have my S9 which I used for 9 years .Using a new dream station now for 1.5 years . It was recalled months after I bought it. Had to continue to use it because of the severity of my OSA and the expense.. I thought about using my old S9 but thought I was so old . I purchased the dream station rather than a new resmed because the therapist told me that resmed voids the warranty if I use the So Clean .I had to purchase a new adapter for the dream station to use my so-clean. It is funny if it wasn't so sad .. ...I got a call this week for an appointment in January to come in for my replacement .Don't know what I am getting but I am sure they will continue to %$##@ me . cheers from nova scotia Canada
It's the Chinese bearings that make them noisy after a while! If you fit SKF bearings ( at 5 times the price of cheap ones ) they would probably stay quiet for life..
I live in Canada and cannot find an airsense 11 to replace my airsense S9. Do anyone know a seller that could export a airsense 11 from australia or from USA ?
Very nice I've never taken mine apart but I think I should after seeing this. I actually quit using my CPAP machine. I did enjoy it quite thoroughly I'm not sure exactly why I quit using it but I did. Thanks for the great video very informative. Keith Kuhn
@@gosman949 Well they told me I have sleep apnea.i Used it for a couple years. I enjoyed it. But I do take melatonin occasionally for sleep. I haven't died yet so I guess I'm doing okay.
Wow. Maybe unless these things ever become user replacable this dirty little secret makes it reasonable to have their machines refuse to run after a set number of hours. It would be much better if they would design them to be economical to repair in the first place, but that good old conflict of interest when they can sell a whole expensive machine instead always gets us wasting things every time. Glad I got myself and my father a new AS10 before all the CPAP drama and pricing kicked in. Thanks for the teardown.
Cheers Sammy, thanks for your great comment! It's very true. ResMed would much prefer you buy a whole new machine then replace a $50 turbine. The funny thing is however they could actually make a lot of money selling replacement components and creating a schedule for replacement to keep your equipment running well. All the best! Nicko
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Hey mate, i really really needed to get a vpap or bipap (not cpap because it doesnt work with me) do you know which is the safest resmed i should get that doesnt have this sort of foam or problem? Thanks man
That is the machine I had before my Philips Respironics. It is still my travel machine. Also me and the fam are praying that you are free of covid.
Get well soon Nicko! My S9 Auto has 24,000 hours on it and keeps going like the Energizer Bunny. 🐰 I can only imagine what the turbine must look like. It has become quite loud over the years. I live in an area where wild fires are common and air quality takes a dive during the fire season.
I have air sens 10 and am pretty worried now that I see the filter.. I wonder if a cpap machine will ever be created without a problem.
Feel better soon, Nick. Keep us updated on your health!
Got my S9 brand new in 2006 it's making horrible noises the last couple nights. I attempted to take mine apart and decided it was best to leave it alone and reassemble. Luckily it still works with the horrible worrying noise included. I believe it's time to replace being the average usage life for a cpap is 3-5 years. Good video and thanks for sharing.
All the best Nic. Fast recovery!
Thank you kindly! I Appreciate the well wishes xo
Thanks heaps for this S9 information Nicko and i hope you feel better soon.
Are these turbines available for off the shelf purchase by the general public?
Your in my family’s thoughts for a quick recovery! Thanks as always for all you do for us!
Thanks Jacq, much appreciated mate. Lots of love. Nicko
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If it is not hygienic, should we change the motor? You showed us how. If the motor is dirty like you are saying, should we change it? Thanks
When will the uploader be available for purchase again so that I can use sleep hq. When do you think resmed will come up with a new bipap machine. I love your videos very informative.
Hi Brian, the Magic Uploader is available for pre-order through the SleepHQ Pro Community. Community.sleephq.com - Members only. We are shipping them out in batches to those who have registered. Cheers
Should get that "dust" Tested !
Fingers crossed results are all OK Nick. Get well soon. Also - I heard those darned crows again. 😂
Thanks Nana, i hope so :-). Haha, did you? I'm making friends with them lol
@CPAPReviews Gidday mate - MY S9 gave me the warning at about 24,000 hours - thanks for reassuring us that we CAN continue using it, without risking anything. Seeing inside via your videos, has made me think about replacing the motor anyway (talk about grimy!) - Can't be great for our lungs to breath all that crud in! I assume of course, that aftermarket IS the only way to source a new motor? Is there a way to reset to zero, the usage, once the motors been replaced, or is it permanently there in the software? Thanks mate!
Hey Nicko, what if used high pressure air duster to get rid of this dust to clear it without breaking apart... just a thought.
I saw a video where one man was cleaning the inside of the turbine motor with an air compressor. It worked very well.
Is the dust the cause of getting a warning on the display of the device that the blower/motor is need of changing?,or is it when you used the maximum amount of hours that you will have to service it?..and is there something as a service point where they change the motor/blower?
Hey Nick, I hope you don't have the Covid. I use 2 standard filters in my AirSense 10 but still worry that it will be full of dust as my room is very dusty, I will be buying the Hypo allergy filters next time round. Stay safe mate.
Thank you for this informative video. I'm on the verge of requesting a replacement of my A10 and thought I might be able to go a little longer with it. Now, I'm second guessing that decision. I'm going for my upgrade soon.
Also, feel better. I'm coming back from a bout of C19 and it was not fun.
Hey Steve, you're welcome brother. Hope you're feeling better mate. Best wishes. Nicko
Good video as I just replaced my Motor but how do you get rid of that expired motor window?
Greetings from BC, Canada Nick.
I have been using CPAP since 2000, and because I am now ready to upgrade from my 2011 s9, I have been plying the internet for current trends & info re the CPAP world. And what do I find……..NICK!!
And that gent has largely succeeded in wooing me into purchasing a Lowenstein Prism (even though it appears that the sole models available in Canada are the Soft & Smart versions).
So here is my single question for the day: IF I find that I can acquire the Prism 20A, or if I am stuck with the other 2 choices, what do you know about the serviceability of their motors with respect to the gist of your article about the s9?
Thank you doctor!!
Oh wow. you actually used the axe!!. Mate a dremel is $70 at bunnings.
Hello Nick. I use an resmed s9. Lost my filter cover over a year ago. I’ve been diagnosed with leukemia. Do you think this is the cause of my problems.
Thankyou for that. Very interesting. Hope you feel better soon.
Thanks Jeanette, appreciate that. Nick
My S9 manufactured in 2010 is still going strong. Took it apart and looks SO MUCH BETTER than that! There's a bit of dust on the blades and a bit of dust in the foam but that's that. Foam luckily doesn't look desegregated.
Take care Nick. Feel better soon
Thanks Kath :)
Hope you are ok mate!👍
Any fan will collect dust and has to be maintainable. I have a S10 and now will be using the hypoallergenic filters! Thank you. :)
Hey mate, yeah i agree! The philips ones you can take apart with a few screws and give a good clean. It's simple! ResMed has these fused casings and there's no need for it. I think they probably do it on purpose so you can't clean it. They also make the replacement hard and expensive so you end up buying a new device. Hopefully in the future that will change. Cheers
@@CPAPReviews yes, planned obsolescence so you have to upgrade. :/
My cpap machine is the Dreamstation 1. I have used you video to remove the foam in my machine and I sleep better knowing I am not breathing in the foam.
Hope you stay well, Nick. I read studies that show that spraying your nasal passages with Saline Spray will stop the virus from going into the lungs. I use this whenever I go out in public, have one in my turck and then gargle with antibacterial mouthwash when I arrive home. Rather shocking, your video today. I will get an ultrafine filter for my Resmed 10. You are such a benefit for all cpap users,
great to know what we are dealing with. A company that would develop a guaranteed safe cpap machine would make billions and help lots of people stay healthy. Advertise "Totally Non Toxic materials, guaranteed" would do it.
Hi there, thanks for the lovely comment and tips. I agree! A totally non toxic machine that had replaceable components that were easy to clean! They'd get a 10/10 from me anyway. Cheers
Best video yet. A lot of good the hyper-allergenic filters did for Dream Station!
If there is so much dust getting past the filters, I wonder if it is getting in through poor seals to the case, preventing the air from being drawn through them. A good test of the foam filters is warm water bath. If they’re squeezed no doubt they probably will be loaded with contamination. If there’s minimal dust etc, I’d be asking where the input air to the turbine is coming from. Great video mate!
Now Nikko, does the air route through a filter after the turbine, or straight to the hose?
Hope you are well quickly!... Wonder if you could send some of that black gunk to a lab for analysis. 🤔
5:20. When you really think about it - this is the air you would be breathing anyway - it’s a little cleaner At least - it’s filtered anyway. Thanks for the tip on the hypoallergenic 6:48 filters!
I thought I need a new start/stop switch Or to replace the whole board. but - I was able to get the top off and slowly work around 2 drops of doexit D5 into the start stop switch. after working it in a little the switch operates almost all the time now. no more having to press and release 30 times. thanks!
Jesus! Mine is probably the same. Is there any way at all to get a cleaner turbine? Or should I cough up for a new machine?
Hi Michael, it seems pretty coated mate. I'm not sure. I wish they made them so you could take them apart and clean. You can do it with the Philips turbine. It makes no sense to weld it shut but i guess ResMed probably wants you to just buy a new one. It's up to you brother. All the best. If you're in Australia contact my mates at CPAP Direct and tell them Nicko said to look after me haha. Cheers
Great video, loved my s9. I now have a Sense 11, where do I purchase the hyper allergenic filters that are referenced at the close of this video?
Hey mate, i'm not 100% sure if you can get them for the AS11 at the moment but you could always get some from the AS10 and then cut them to size. You can buy them from most cpap outlets but if you're in the U.S - cpap.review/hypo . Perhaps just give Sleeplay a call to make sure they are the hypo filters. Cheers
I bought resmed brand hypoallergenic filters. Just do a Google search, or contact resmed. They aren't HEPA quality though. Not sure if HEPA might restrict the pump intake, causing problems. I see a HEPA filter, but it's installed after the pump. They call it 'antibacterial'.
Found one of these in the thowaway pile at a second hand store, same deal really nasty inside. Works great now❤
Great to hear!
you’re awesome Nick!!! 💯💯💯
So are you friend! Much love xox
I heard that ds2 has bad foam too. Have you heard anything?
Nicko, that just kills your reply of "Nothing wrong with a S9" to my idea of upgrading my S9 to an AS11. I'd be curious of the total run hours on that machine. Good advice on heftier filters - certainly going to on my next machine and right away on my wife's AS10...
G'day Gary, nahhhh mate, she's all good! I was referring to the foam when i messaged that and i stand by that comment ;-). The machine was pretty old (most of them S9 are now). Cheers mate. Nicko
What is the best way to change the motor in a ResMed S-9 ?.
Do you have a video or can you reccomend one ??
G'day Walter, i'm working on building an aftermarket turbine and will do some videos shortly.
Kind regards
Nick
@@CPAPReviews Fantastic .. any updates? You mention $50 aftermarket motors in one video .. any info or links to buy one??
I wonder what effect all that gunk has on the pressures achieved by the machine - both true pressure and displayed pressure? Before my Dreamstation AVAPS , I had an S9 VPAP Auto. I started getting headaches and I felt the S9 wasn’t giving me the pressures that it used to. My settings were at the max for the machine. Subsequently I was found to have an element of central sleep apnea on top of my severe obstructive sleep apnea and hence the AVAPS with the Dreamstation also providing for higher max pressures.
Do you think in addition to being un-hygienic, all that gunk could compromise performance?
I hope you didn’t catch the Covid and recover quickly.
Or perhaps cut those PM2.5 sheets to size. They are really cheap to buy. Bush fire season is coming up so i will give that a go this summer see if that improves the air quality.
I would like to know that as well. I have some of the Pm2.5 filters to use in my C19 facial masks.
Pm 2.5? Is that 2.5 micrometers? That's rather course. I was thinking of taping a p100 mask over the air intake.
I think we have to be a little careful as to how fine we go as it could affect the motor performance potentially. I'm not sure but limiting the airflow could impact the performance. Cheers
I am glad I saw this video. I have the Phillips Dreamstation or whatever it’s called and it’s on the recall list. Someone gave me the ResMed S9 they were no longer using and I just didn’t feel comfortable using it and now I really don’t feel comfortable using it ever. I just think of all the dust from someone else’s home being inside that machine and if someone smoked in the home it’s sure to be in that machine. I really need a new machine but our insurance is a high dollar deductible so I would have to pay for the machine out of pocket as we never meet the deductible even with a family of 7. Insurance sucks because we pay a high dollar amount just to have it and make the insurance company richer but yet we still pay for everything. If we don’t have it we get fined so it’s a lose lose situation for us anyways.
I know it's too late now, but I wonder how many hours were on that poor S9?
Hi
After looking at your video, I think the black dust is a black perished air filter, which got sucked in and pulverised.
My S9 motor is perfectly clean, however there is no power getting to the motor....motee works on 12v dc battery
Thanks for the advice! Take care of yourself and get better.
Hey Nicko…my take on it is that is the foam starting to breakdown like in the blower I sent you pics of.
Hmmmmm, could be mate. It feels pretty solid though. Thanks for your insights. Nicko
This is highly dependent on your room air quality and whether you use a fine hypoallergenic filter that's always changed regularly. For example, a home in suburb Florida where the AC runs most of the time with no pets will generally have cleaner air than a home in a colder northern city with pets.
Hello from Montreal Canada Nick, right at the beginning of your video showing the interior of an old Resmed S9, we can see the white double trumpet shape tube. inside it has holes. That old device embedded in each S9 Nick sure looks like a V Com device……just saying. Cheers from up here.
Hi, Do you suspect this is dust or the foam degraded like philips?
Hi Jaleel, it's hard to know mate. There's a lot of foam in the S9 but i would be thinking it's probably more just standard dust from years of use. Cheers
Where to buy the motor. And is China made motors ok? Please explain
Hope you feel better soon. I started using my Resmed S9 when we got the recall on the Dreamstation even though it said « Motor life exceeded ». Do you know if we can replace the turbines or if there is company that can do the exchange? I am in Illinois, USA.
Hi Will, thanks for your comment. I have seen them advertised from time to time although it's a difficult machine to take apart and replace. It's probably not worth it. I think the foam is safe in that device so it's probably just dust build up over the years man. I don't think it will cause to many dramas over the next few months whilst you wait for the recall replacements but certainly have look around and see what you can find. Cheers. Nicko
Regarding the dust problem I am wondering if making a large enclosed filter box might be a benefit. As as an example, use an upturned milk crate covering the CPAP machine which is clad in a foam covering as a first line of dust retardation ! Easy to clean or replace. Maybe the subscribers could come up with some other suggestions. It could be a good cottage industry for Nico and the kids ! ha ha. Currently watching the Poms collapsing in the first Test in cricket.
I am working on one for my machine ( 10 days old).. Have filter experience and these filters are CRAPEeeeeee. Needs at least a merv 8 value filter, Think merv 8 filter cut fit over the whole machine... we are on the same page. I am 81 an have time on my hands to do it.
@@walterbobruk2310did you come up with anything?
G'day Nick, please let me know where to get a 2nd hand bipap BMC or cheaper machine, as I'm using S9 for a very long time.
What sort of bit did you use to get the screws out of that S9? I want to open my old one up to see if I can clean it up at least to some degree so I can use it as a backup for camping. I'd love to have seen how you broke this down.
Hey Nicko,,,
I have just bought ResMed S9 Escape of marketplace for like next to nothing. And, to my surprise it has only 117 clinical hrs, and humidifier chamber still have plastic on it...😀😀
But here is the thing, i never knew S9 series have 5 models. And Escape is not the best one, it won't record AHI, just hrs of use overnight.
Considering turbine still in excellent condition, is it possible to swap parts between S9 autoset and escape to make a refurbished Autoset for myself as a backup machine? Any idea where to find internal parts for S9, or if someone have a broken S9 Autoset, so that i can test my skills...🙂🙂
Hey mate, so the difference between the models is just the firmware. All the components inside the machines are exactly the same. I have done a cpap hack before and it works really well but i don't recommend you try as you can brick your machine. If you're interested just for fun then here's the vid - th-cam.com/video/FZecY3EuXlk/w-d-xo.html
@@CPAPReviews thanks Nick, for a reply. Yes, I had seen this video before and it motivated me to try configuring S9. Airbreak I believe is for Airsense 10, as it has advanced tech in it. Can be connected directly to play with firmware. However, S9 is of older technology, I highly doubt, there is anyway one can tickle around with firmware. Or if possible, please let me know will definitely try for fun... 😀😀
How long was the machine used for?
Too bad someone can't figure out how to make a "Cabin Filter" type element to filter out all that nasty mess.
Great video , very informative.
Was it difficult to get to and remove the turbine motor ???
Thank you 👍👍👍👍
Great job! Thanks for the video!
Can you please tell me where I can get a turbine for my S9? Did you say $50?????? I'm going to have an appointment with my sleep doctor on Thursday. I don't want to have to get a new one if I don't need it.
Thanks
Thank you for sharing. I named my CPAP Prince Ali Ababwa so that I can say, "I slept beside a Prince."
Hey brother! Stay well 🙏... Airsense 9, same exact thing, gunked up motor, you may or may not remember my Airsense 10 died after only 8 months use with a rattling motor only to eventually seize... I went everywhere to find a motor, nobody wanted to just sell the motor.. same with this S9 I am refurbishing but stopped because... it has that infamous message that motor life is exceeded and it is useless for me to buy a motor and still have that message... nobody in their right mind will buy a machine even with a new motor because of Resmed and their unstoppable message.
Hi Rob, yeah i remember that mate! I wish they would either 1. Make a turbine that you could open like the Philips one or 2. Make them replaceable without the crazy high service costs. Cheers mate. Nicko
This could have been good, but wasn't.
Do you realize that there are no user-repairable parts because of companies' greed?
They don't want you fixing them! They want you to BUY A NEW ONE
Is there causality to the CPAP foam hurt people?
Do you think it makes sense to use both filters at the same time (hypoallergenic and normal) or does the suction of the air no longer work so well?
Please advise where I can buy new ResMed S9 turbine.
Thank you in dvance.
Can you please tell me what turbine is the one in the ResMed S9, and where to get it. Thanks
Uncle Nicko…what did you do to the crows? LOL! Hope you are feeling better soon and that your test is negative. Rest up mate. Cheers!!
Thanks kath, me and old mate crow are bff's now! I just put some bread out on the front porch haha ;-). Thanks for the well wishes x
Hey man! At first I was laughing hard "dude what, CPAP Reviews? There's even a channel for that?" And then I enjoyed your video and appreciated your efforts, in the end I was full of respect :) Thank you!
Is the hypoallergenic filter you mentioned, can be applied to this model?
Good on you Nick; great information
I am new to cpap I would like to know what you think about the luna 2 qx machine.
Would you buy a used one if you had to ?
Wow….. I use a S9 and have used it for 10 years. I do change my filter but there is no telling how much dust is in that thing! This explains some issues that I am having with increased allergy symptoms and inability to sleep due to coughing. I am due a new machine but about to go on Medicare (USA) in a few months. It seemed easier to wait until Medicare has started than to transition from my private health insurance. I may have to just stop using my machine until then!!
Hey mate, i probably wouldn't stop using your therapy just now. Perhaps get some Hypoallergenic filters and put them on for the time being. Best wishes. Nicko
If you cant smell you prob got it, my bestie in melb got it..vaxed she felt bad but recovered within ten days.
I saw that the filter that comes with the unit didn't seem fine enough. I cut larger round section out of one of my COVID masks and taped it over the pre- filter. Dusty where I live
Hi There Can you tell me please where you are buying the motors for $50 because the cheapest one I have found is $250, thank you.
He said they should sell them for 50
He also wrote that "he's working on it". Either take it in for a check up.. or get a new one for now..
I have a s9 and wondering where I can get a replacement motor
Don’t know what you think of this Nick, but I bought a material sleeve to cover my tubing to stop condensation in the tubing. One night there was a god almighty loud bang/whistle like a train, I woke suddenly of course and there was soot in the mask and my nostrils, it was all very strange. I took the machine to Resmed who took it apart but they could find nothing wrong with it. I always thought it was static building between the tube and the material covering I had bought, but maybe it was dust….who knows, anyway after that I got the heated tubing yea !!!
Hi Cheryl, that's crazy! I've never heard of this before but i would have loved to check out the machine to see what happened. Hope all is well. Nicko
@@CPAPReviews Hi Nicko, Yeah pretty nuts, gave me a fright I can tell you. The guys at Resmed even thought it might be psychic phenomena 🤣 Personally after seeing the dust in that motor you showed on your video I think it must have been a combination of dust and electrical charge caused by the friction of the nylon sleeve over the plastic tubing, but who knows. Hope you are feeling a bit better today my friend 🤗
Hi Nicko, my DME has been sending filters for my Resmed Airsense 10 that they claim are Ultrafine filters. They are labeled "CF-36850-1 Resmed PAP and Oxygen Filter". When I googled "CF-36850-1" this appears to be a standard pollen filter. Am I correct about this? Many online CPAP suppliers sell the CF-36855-1 as the Hypoallergenic Ultrafine Filter for the Resmed S9 & S10 Series, Airsense 10. Is the CF-36855-1 the filter that I should be getting?
Hey man , i'm not sure to be honest. I don't think that is a ResMed OEM filter is it? Could be an aftermarket one. I'll have to see if i can get a part number but on the ResMed site they refer to them as Hypoallergenic filters. shop.resmed.com.au/resmed-hypoallergenic-filters-12-pack/ . They are feel soft to the touch not like the rough standard ones. Cheers
Hope you get well soon.
Thanks legend :)
Is that safe to use a S9 machine that had 3 months use in 2011 and is stored since? Thanks
Also, hope you're doing better. I think I have something similar to you. Heading out for a nose "swabbing" as we speak.
Hi Ed, there's plenty going around mate. My whole family has it now. Very contagious but glad it's not Covid. Good luck brother. Nicko
Nowhere else could we find about this. Grateful. Subscribe.
Thanks for the sub chuck. Much appreciated brother. Cheers
Would be better if ResMed designed a machine where all airway components could be cleaned by the user. Even with the hypoallergenic filters, the filter holder doesn't really seal the filter intake well.
Hope you don't have the big C19. Early treatment saves lives. Thanks for posting about the hypoallergenic filters. Where is the best place to get those?
where do you get the hypo allergenic filters?
Probably from a new vacuum cleaner bag. May have to cut several pieces to make it work
Can’t I just use my So Clean Machine?
The S9 machine utilizes only one thin layer of that glob you showed, N0T multiple layers. As far as the contaminated cyclones, as many times as I've asked; its been insisted that internals NEVERneed cleaned or serviced . Imagine that. !
Thank you for helping me save the bucks for a better machine
Looks like smokers gunk.
Maybe washing the whole thing with the casing in petrol would work.
Horrified ! This is the machine I went back to using until I got the new cheap plastic Dreamstation 2. I thought I was safe ! Thanks to Nick for telling us the truth !
I wonder if you could’ve use the air compressor to blow that out? Also I would like to make this observation if you don’t use a CPAP machine then you’re breathing in the dust that’s in the room at least with the CPAP machine you have a greater chance of stopping the dust from getting into your lungs because the CPAP machine has a filter if you do not use a CPAP machine you do not have a filter except for your nose but you have that regardless. Just a thought. I hope you do not have Covid
Hi Anthony, i don't think so mate but it's a good idea. It's a fair point you make however there's a whole lot more airflow compared to normal breathing so there's a whole lot extra dust and particles that are getting pulled in from the air. Cheers man. Nick
Great video! Thank you sir!
Glad you liked it!
@@CPAPReviews Well... I use an S9, not sure if I should just junk it now, so even though I like your video, I don't like that I've a problem to deal with. Still better to know.
Where could I get a new turbine for that very same machine?
Thanks I still have my S9 which I used for 9 years .Using a new dream station now for 1.5 years . It was recalled months after I bought it. Had to continue to use it because of the severity of my OSA and the expense.. I thought about using my old S9 but thought I was so old . I purchased the dream station rather than a new resmed because the therapist told me that resmed voids the warranty if I use the So Clean .I had to purchase a new adapter for the dream station to use my so-clean. It is funny if it wasn't so sad .. ...I got a call this week for an appointment in January to come in for my replacement .Don't know what I am getting but I am sure they will continue to %$##@ me . cheers from nova scotia Canada
It's the Chinese bearings that make them noisy after a while! If you fit SKF bearings ( at 5 times the price of cheap ones ) they would probably stay quiet for life..
I live in Canada and cannot find an airsense 11 to replace my airsense S9. Do anyone know a seller that could export a airsense 11 from australia or from USA ?
Check the internet and email them.. they live to sell machines and week get right back to you!
Very nice I've never taken mine apart but I think I should after seeing this.
I actually quit using my CPAP machine.
I did enjoy it quite thoroughly I'm not sure exactly why I quit using it but I did.
Thanks for the great video very informative.
Keith Kuhn
@@gosman949
Well they told me I have sleep apnea.i
Used it for a couple years.
I enjoyed it.
But I do take melatonin occasionally for sleep.
I haven't died yet so I guess I'm doing okay.
It’s allergies, mate. I got ‘em too.
I wish it was man but i'm pretty crook. Cheers
Wow. Maybe unless these things ever become user replacable this dirty little secret makes it reasonable to have their machines refuse to run after a set number of hours. It would be much better if they would design them to be economical to repair in the first place, but that good old conflict of interest when they can sell a whole expensive machine instead always gets us wasting things every time. Glad I got myself and my father a new AS10 before all the CPAP drama and pricing kicked in. Thanks for the teardown.
Cheers Sammy, thanks for your great comment! It's very true. ResMed would much prefer you buy a whole new machine then replace a $50 turbine. The funny thing is however they could actually make a lot of money selling replacement components and creating a schedule for replacement to keep your equipment running well. All the best! Nicko