See What Happens When You Don't Clean Your CPAP?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ส.ค. 2021
- Even though I recently purchased and refurbished a ResMed AirSense 10 that was used in a hospital and purchased at a medical auction (see more on that at • I Refurbished a ResMed... ), I started to worry about what would happen if it broke down. Having a lifeline like this that isn't protected by a warranty is kinda scary. So I've been on the hunt for damaged AirSense 10s that I could acquire as cheaply as possible and use for spare parts, if need be.
I found this one for $75, and my goal was just to see if I could salvage $75 worth of parts out of it. But I decided to go ahead and break it down, clean it up, and reassemble it before sticking it in the closet. Turns out, I actually got it working, and although it's not an ideal backup, at least it works, and it's there if mine should ever go completely kerflooey.
In the meantime, my wife has decided she'd rather use this busted and half-dead AirSense 10 than the DreamStation 2 she was prescribed. It's delivery better therapy, and it's a good stopgap until she can find a new sleep doctor who will prescribe her a ResMed machine. - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
Another great video. You did a fantastic job cleaning up this wreck of a machine. I’m so impressed since I thought it was a lost cause.
Just recently bought a backup with 39 hours but paid much more than you. I’m not adventurous taking apart machines. LOL
Also saw in your notes that your wife decided to use it rather than the DS2. I totally understand and would have done the same if it were me. I hope she finds a new sleep doc soon who will prescribe a ResMed for her. Take care…thanks!
Me too! I nearly tee-teed myself when it actually powered on and worked!
@@AdventureswithCPAP …I would have too! 😂
The people that bought my house from were smokers. At the time I didn't really think too much about it. I figured that a good airing out and some cleaning would take care of it. Was I wrong! It took close to a year to finally get rid of the stench. I had to seal all the ceilings and walls before I painted them. All the carpeting had to be replaced. I had to replace the furnace and clean the ducts. I had to replace the kitchen exhaust fan There was even brownish yellow slime in the wall behind the thermostat. Many people don't realize how hard it actually is to get rid of cigarette smoke.
I can't believe someone had the cheek to ask $75 for this junk! How can anyone think it's acceptable to sell this. I'd understand if they asked fkr $5 for ot, but 75! No one would pay a single penny for that in the UK. I can't believe you gave them $75. You've put so much labor into it.
Mine is about 7 years old and the turbine is trashed. Ordered a new turbine off Amazon. Thanks for the video. I was learry to tear it apart thinking I'd break a bunch of plastic pieces.
As a happily retired Respiratory Therapist, and a CPAP machine user, I always clean my CPAP machine first thing after waking. It takes me about 30 minutes to do it right. A clean CPAP machine, a 12mg Melatonin, and the 478 counting method all help me sleep great.
What’s the 478 method ?
It's good to see a machine last that long. I would imagine it had a new motor installed at some point in it's life. 18K hours and still kicking is damn good. I found this video after just replacing my motor as it was making a growling noise. The machine works like new again. I'll never pay a DME to fix anything on it again, it was too easy!
Great job and video! And some people wonder why they have health problems? You have to wonder what the interior of the house looks like!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As a person who enjoys taking things apart and putting them back together again I enjoyed watching this you did a great job both in cleaning the machine and filming it your presentation was pretty good good job pat on the back I just got a machine just like this my old one served me well for years 30 years machine I have now is like the one that you just repaired so it was enjoyable to watch thank you
Worth watching just to see that take apart procedure. Thnx.
Great video never realized how many parts went Into the machine but now I gotta find one to disassemble lol
WOW... Outstanding Job, thanks for showing us how to do a tear-down and cleaning... So Helpful!!
The humidity chamber scaling can be easily removed by soaking in a large bowl of warm water with a few tablespoons of citric acid crystals dissolved in it. An hour is usually enough, though you do have to get into the corners with a stiff brush.
I use ordinary tap water in mine, so usually do this every 3 months or so.
That was a helluva cleaning job you performed! Kudos! Still not sure if I would want to use it. Thanks for sharing!
It's terrifying how CPAP devices can be so dirty in their interiors without one knowing the difference from the outside.
I have this exact same machine since 2015 and was a little afraid to disassemble it to get to the turbine (not as strong as it once was). But thanks for the video. I might just try it and do this exact deep cleaning.
Thanks for the tip Dennis !
i'm amazed you put the thing back together ! now i wonder when i need to get foam cleaned ?? i've had it six months
As long as you're good about changing your filters (and my recommendation there would be to use hypoallergenic filters), it shouldn't be a problem. The person who used this machine apparently never changed the filter.
@@AdventureswithCPAP no, the person who used that machine was a heavy smoker.. I have one sitting here I just disassembled and it looks exactly (if not worse) than that one.. motor wise that is.. and I know he smoked 2 packs a day and changed the filter every 2 weeks. He also had it 7 years.
Now, that was one nasty dirty CPAP machine. You cleaned it thoroughly and took sensible precautions by using the bacterial in line filter. I was amazed when you got it to work considering the amount of dust that was throughout the unit. The AirSense 10 is a durable well built CPAP machine.
What sort of dirty person must have owned that machine before. What and didn't he do well to clean it up.
Great tutorial, enjoyed watching, maybe someday I’ll try, thanks.
Nice job. I would be tempted to use automobile dashboard polish on that exterior to make it look better.
thanks so much for sharing! Great job!!!
For the DME this is what they call a smoker unit and the only use for it would've been to dispense to another smoker or make it 100% write off. It's incredibly hard to get the tar smell out even with a full disassembly and cleaning. Keep in mind that the hours can be reset by the DME to record compliance but what you have there is a potential working spare in an emergency.
Or traveling. best to use a machine that you can afford to lose (just saying)
@@uncledadcanor just throw away to make your return trip luggage lighter.
@@tobywinter1Airline can’t charge extra for it, so I wouldn’t make it disposable
Well done. I will try this some time
It's almost as if you've worked with electronics before; clearly this is not your first rodeo. ;-) Congrats on the find, looks like a great backup unit.
A few years back, Trinnov wanted me to review one of their Altitude systems, and I agreed to do so, but only if they would let me install it. They balked. I had to prove to them I was capable.
During the installation, I discovered a bug in their firmware and reported it to them. Needless to say, Jon Herron was impressed. 🤣
Brilliant video, which earned a comment a like and a subscription.
I have an S9 with 29,000 hours, with all completely original parts, and it runs like the day I bought it. Also, if you soak the scaly tank in vinegar, the acetic acid will completely dissolve the scale. You will end up with a sparkling tank.
ClR works really well as well but make sure you rinse it good.
@@Riverrockphotos I’ve been meaning to try CLR, but I’ve never got any at hand.
Hi! I was given my neighbors S10 and cleaned it similar to the way you did, but his had the “end of useful life” message on it, although seemed to work good as new. There was some dust inside, but not much. One thin though, it had a CDMA modem instead of a current one, so it didn’t report and didn’t connect to “myAir” app. Which is mostly useless
@@Hssengship I just use the SD card and load it manually into my computer. I’m not fussed on RESMED having access to my data and device in any case. Regarding the message, I just click past it. It bothered me for a few days but then got used to it and i barely even notice it now.
Oh… now I gotta clean mine. Just like you did with that one. I know mine will be far worse. Pillow fiber accident. I hope I can send you pics. I’m sure that is what has caused all the noises in mine.
Hi Dennis! Always love your great videos! I wanted to ask you what online place you'd recommend for buying tubing and masks for the best value, for the Airbender 10, thanks! I find a lot of places sell at a quite steep price in my opinion.
Hey! As much as I hate to admit it: Amazon! I'm trying to de-Amazon my life as much as possible, and buying CPAP supplies there is dodgy anyway, since there are so many counterfeits. But one of the biggest CPAP supplies wholesalers in the U.S., CPAPSupplyUSA, has a storefront on Amazon and I know their stuff is legit. And cheap, since you're paying wholesale costs! amzn.to/3KhOFrw
This video should be reaired! Very good video for deep cleaning.... I also see 118k views.... I know over the new year and Xmas these machine new where selling at $399 great price!
This was entertaining and a good learning experience as to servicing a resmed Airsense. I'm a HAM radio operator and tinkerer and wonder what the requirements are to be allowed to provide service and repairs on CPAP as it is medical equipment. Do I need a special training certification? These are really so simple
Reminded me of a cpap machine a person living in their van in the desert had.
In a small Florida community with lots of retirees we have a church thrift store. Estate liquidations are common. All kinds of medical equipment is donated. But the church can't sell the medical equipment because of FDA regulations so all medical equipment is free for the taking. I got a practically new Dreamstation at no cost that is now my backup.
Dreamstations have been recalled 😑
Yup I snag them up and refurbish them then donate to a charity that gives them to people that need them. Started this when my wife's old dreamstation's motor went bad. They are surprisingly easy to fix.❤
appreciate video. New CPAP user
Finally a good disassembly video! Just a question, what did u use to clean the inner electrical things and motor? 75% alcohol?
It was either 70% or 91%. I can’t remember which!
@@AdventureswithCPAP I just did a google, they said to use 99% isopropyl. Need to get me some.
@@westmibaddrivers2573 Be careful with 99% IPA. It is dangerously flammable. I'd guess the 91%should work.
I have deep cleaned my wife"s cpap many times and got a spare that looked like that. Actually used dish soap and a little bleach on all the air path parts except the blower. It had to be cleaned with a q tip very carefully. Would not recommend alcohol in the motor as it would penetrate the bearings and windings.
Thank you.
good job on the cleaning!! wish you could help me clean my extra one that was given to me.. it blew out a bit of black debris last night? not sure what that was but i let it blow out until no more came out.. i really need it.. my other one have had for 10plus years and it was blowing hard and soft the night before and i couldnt breathe right.. felt like choking so i had to use the spare one.. maybe you can help me?
I have the same particular machine. They’re usually set up with the air pressure by the doctor anywhere from a small setting all the way up to the max the user cannot adjust that and usually on mine the doctor would do it via cell phone because that’s how those communicate with the doctor is through a cell phone communications device that’s inside of it. I was thinking of using one of those sterilizing machines to sterilize it after every use but they always say that will ruin the seals
Amazing!
Ive been out of the loop as far as CPAP goes, but my niece was part of a class action suit against one of the manufacturers regarding the crud that built up inside and caused her chronic issues. I should probably be using one but my experience plus her experience = lack of trust in the industry 😕
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Link to the bacterial filter you mentioned? Thanks!
Holly crap I just checked mine and it has 27446 hours on it. Its going to die. Thankfully I have met my out of pocket this year so I will be getting a new one before the first of the year.
Thank you so much for this video!
I disassembled my daughter's machine and the turbine is definitely the most frustrating thing to clean; cotton swabs and paint brushes just weren't cutting it. So far, the most effective tool I've found to remove the dust build up is pipe cleaners. 👍
Thanks for making this video,I have that same machine and may want to tear it down................
The humidifier would just need a good soak in white vinegar to get rid of all the lime scale. Probably as good as new afterward.
Hello, quick question, how long did u left the motor sinked in alcohol ? Thanks!,
thank you. very good. I got won. I use to replace and clean peoples old pc's. That is not normal dust. It iscigarette smoke dust. I use to get nicotine headaches after cleaning them.
We have a goodwill here where you buy stuff by weight. I find these all the time
Can You use a inline Filter with Dreamstations?
I still have mine planing on getting the airsense 11 when I can get money saved up. Sad that the prices are insane right now :( Thanks nice Video great work boss!!!!
Philips announced last week that the recommendation for use of in-line bacterial filters only applies to ventilators, not PAP therapy devices.
It’s such a cluster-you-know-what.
www.dropbox.com/s/10m7zat4u2ki8ww/philips-global-bacteria-filter-document.pdf?dl=0
@@AdventureswithCPAP Thanks Again I agree a true Clown Car :)
where would you get parts for the humidifer seal the interior one not the one where the it goes to the back ?
Ok, after watching this video, I took the chance and disassembled my Aircure10 Dpap yesterday Feb 21,2022. Same motor set up more or less. I have nearly 16k hours on mine. I do smoke but never in the bedroom where my Dpap is. (yes, mine is Dual pressure.) I changed the filter every 2 weeks and cleaned the masks/tank/tube every friday. Yet my motor looked just as bad, in fact worse than this one.
I used 1 bottle, 16 oz of 91 percent Isopropyl alcohol. It came out jet black. I also used my air compressor, with a needle nozzle (about the size and length of a good toothpick, set at 20 psi to blow out particles loosened by the alcohol. After re-assembly I let it run for 2 hours.
Before I cleaned it, it was NOT keeping accurate track of my usage hours, nor was it producing the proper higher pressure required. I would use it all night for 7 hours and it recorded 30 minutes of use. It had been this way for 2 months. Last night was the first usage since i cleaned it. Had to use the humidifier, but got 7 hours of proper use and yes, it did record that usage properly on the myair resmed website.
Resmed needs to redesign this so the motor unit can be replaced, or removed easier to be sent it for a cleaning.
I have a airsense 11 , bought a sleep8 cleaning machine and bag ! I guess i'm suppose to still periodically wash my mask , hose and water tank ! Now to find out the cleaning machine and bag have been discontinued ! The whole process is becoming a pain in the butt !
BRAVO.🌷
Is there a swivel assembly somewhere in a Resmed 10?
Too bad the old style spray cans of TV tuner cleaner are no longer available. A good investment for you to consider is a small ultrasonic jewelry cleaner.
I have been using a Airsense 10 for just under 2 years. I change the air filter monthly and clean the tubing about twice a month, but was not aware of possibly needing to clean the pump motor. Was all that gunk inside caused by not having a proper intake filter and also it being used by a smoker ??
Don't go opening your CPAP if you don't absolutely need to! You're right in the end: what caused all this was a failure to regularly change the intake filter. It was a filthy, gunky mess. I'm guessing it hadn't been changed in probably five years, and the weight of the particulate matter trapped in it weighed it down to the point where it wouldn't make a proper seal.
That's the only way any air was getting through it at all -- it was going around it!
@@AdventureswithCPAP thanks. Was fixing to open mine up 💀
I just got mine 3 weeks ago and I'm horrified it got that bad!! 😷😬😱
i did the alcohol thing. and it got clean, but the motor whined about 2 days after. is it possible the alcohol cleaned out all the lube on the motor parts?
The problem with dunking the fun motor in alcohol is it removes the grease from the bearings
I agree, was just about to post that. Is there a way to add oil/grease again...
Thanks for this. I just bought a used Airsense 10 Autoset en did the same cleaning job. It's working, but the rotating knob somehow doesn't work. I can't get the push-click to work. Must have done something wrong.
Did you put the outer cover on before putting the knob on? It may sound silly, but I've done that SO MANY TIMES. Start at around 8:18 and watch from there. You need to put the knob on before putting on that outer shell/cover.
@@AdventureswithCPAP yes I did. Thanks, it works now.
Did a great job 18000 hrs. ÷ 8 2,250 nights 5 yrs 2 months.
They should make it easier to get to that foam piece inside. I would like to take mine apart but don't dare to.
Also looking for parts non smoking please fyi how and where i can pick up salvaged parts
This was great! I have the Curve one. Just started it. Was looking for videos on cleaning but came across yours. I like tech stuff like this so watched your video. Then signed in to like it and subscribe! Thank you . Music was too loud for my years though. Should not be louder than your voice. And not by that much. Other than that, great video!
Hi, i don’t know if you still check for notifications but i might as well ask, i have found out that my resmed stops excerting good pressure to fill my airway up, and i cant breath out at the same time because is too hard to exhale, for some reason that happens at the 2 hour mark every night, do you know how i can solve this issue?
Hey! Question for you: do you wear a pulse-oximeter or a smart watch when you sleep?
The reason I ask is, I'm working on a video now about the sensation that you can't catch your breath when you first put on a CPAP, and I've found that it's related to elevated heart-rate, at least for me and my wife at is. I'm wondering if there might be something that's causing your heart-rate to spike around that time?
I have the new airsense 11 - it has a musty smell when first on. I don't know how to disassemble that one to clean the motor assy.
Turn on your pap machine next to an ozone generator; let it run for 1-2 minutes tops that will remove the musty smell
I don't care how well you cleaned-up the machine. I could never use it with the thought of all the hours someone else was breathing through it, especially someone who smoked, coughed, hacked into it. YUCK!
It's just the unit so it's fine as long as it's cleaned up. He replaced the humidity chamber, and uses his own tubing. Not all of your breath is going to go back through the machine.in fact the resmed masks have a flap that only opens while you're breathing in. Almost all of your air will go out through the exhilation ports.
Some of us choose to be guided by logic, informed by scientific principles. Others choose to be guided by their emotional responses. I know which one I am, and constantly through my life I’ve watched my peers (who choose to be guided by emotional responses) just fall behind in every area of life. Including, in their relationships with others. Has it ever occurred to you that the YUCK feeling, may be completely irrational ?
He just wants it for parts
There is constant "positive" pressure coming from the machine into the tube and eventually into the mask. Although a very tiny bit of your breath might barely make it into the tube, zero breath makes it all the way down the tube and back into the water chamber... zero.
Like reusing combines used condom
My cpap just started whining not sure why, I clean it regularly it is about 5 years old hopefully I can get a new 1
Do you think removing the foam will cause any problems? I don't trust, no matter what they say (another material etc.). Thanks for the video.
You mean removing the foam in the AirSense 10?
I honestly just don't know. I would have to do some extensive testing to see if the foam has any effect on the flow-rate sensors. All I can say is this: looking at the internal structure of both machines, I think the foam is less necessary in the AirSense 10 than it is in the DreamStation.
The AirSense 10 also seems to do a better job of responding to flow limitations. So if I were gonna de-foam a machine and attempt to make it work for me, the ResMed would be the one I would trust more to still function effectively.
From what I have read, the foam is really only for sound abatement. You should be able to remove it from the CPAPs that I know about and the only difference if any would be the noise level.
@@af1966 I just replaced the motor in mine. The foam was bad so I left it out. We couldn't hear the difference. Couldn't find a place to buy new foam? Anyone have any ideas on buy new foam.
This was used by a smoker that's what everything looks like in a car, or home of a heavy smoker. Wonder what the inside of their lungs looks like. I always felt that the filter on these just a cloth, or cheap 1mm thick fiber mesh is not good enough. I wanted to make an adaptor to use two 3M cartridge filters from a paint mask.
I bought HEPA filters for mine on Amazon. The factory foam filters don't look all that effective to me.
I can’t believe you paid $75. On this!
My DME gave me a machine with 5600 hours of usage when the doctor actually ordered a new machine. That was in aug 8 of 2023. I’m finally getting my new machine tomorrow almost three months since he gave the order. There was no explanation given. Do no go to Preferred home care. What an outright disaster.
We have only just received ResMed machines, and I'm looking for tips. To avoid the machine (insides) becoming this dirty, how is it possible to clean the inside. Or is it not possible?
Don't worry about cleaning the inside! All you need to do is change your filter regularly, make sure the filter door is in good working order, and perhaps get an air purifier for your bedroom if you think you absolutely need one.
I always refer to these as CCrap machines. It is true.
May I know how long does it take for the fan inside the AirSense 10 to fully evaporate after cleaning with disinfectant alcohol?
If memory serves me, I let it dry for about two hours and then ran the CPAP for about an hour after I put it back together.
Are all the screws the same size/length? I need to disassemble mine, to check why it's whining now, but kind of scared!
They are!
Awesome! Makes the task less-daunting!
@@AdventureswithCPAP
Where can I get that anti-bacterial filter? Also, my S10 has 4000 hrs on it now, when it gets to 15,000 hrs can I just send it to you to refurbish it??? :)
They’re a little tough to find right now, since a lot of Philips DreamStation users are employing them to catch toxic foam coming out of their machines. But these are the ones I had on my DS before I managed to get my hands on a ResMed: amzn.to/3itOJaC
Go watch my Refurbishing video, though! It has tons more detail and not as much fast-forwarding. I bet you could do it yourself, easy! Just be careful!
What percent alcohol did you use to clean the motor? It survived immersion?
91%. And it did, indeed!
Here's my baffling question..
Why is my side filter not so dirty but my inline filter gets disgusting? I use a better quality side filter that's similar to the inline filter make up. Does the airflow only come in through the side door? Resmed just like the model in this video.
I think it boils down to the fact that the inline filter is filtering very saturated air. That moisture makes it sticky. That's just my hypothesis.
Any idea how to stop the whistling sound?
hi sir very nice video am facing one problem in my airsence device the power batten not working how to solve that. if am using in autostart it works but batten .............
Check out my other AS10 refurbishing video, starting at around the 19:40 mark. I show where the contact for the on/off button is. Check it out and see if that contact has become misaligned.
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Isn’t that black foam you took out of this unit the same foam that necessitated the Philips recall? I’m asking because I have this exact unit and wondering if that foam ring needs to be removed. Anyone have info on this?
Nope! Different chemical composition.
After 5 years mine is making a noise like a kazu when I in hale. I'm thinking a new mother is cheaper then the alternative
For the price of these things, they find myself really underwhelmed by what’s inside. Cheap little motor filtration is definitely under par for that system.
Vinegar easily removes water scaling.
I have a second hand CPap ResMed 10 I would like to get it clean which you showed in the video? Who does this kind of work?
Nobody that I know of, unfortunately. 😞
@@DennisBurger thank you,
I noticed a "watch battery" attached on the backside of the circuit board...any idea what that battery is for?
I Believe, just like in a computer it's there to memory like the time and date, etc... I don't know for sure but it's my guess.
you ould leave that alcochol it would make you into deep sleep XD
This is the kind i use
thx
My machine I turn off and have a hunting choofing sound any clues?
For the turbine...I used a pipe cleaner (the kids craft ones from target to be exact ) and dunked that into cleaning vinegar from home depo and I got the turbine perfectly clean .
Thanks for a look inside one of these things.
I bought a used airsense 10 and I noticed that there is a leak somewhere around the humidifier. I replaced the tank and the sealing part on the outtake side of the tank but on the intake side of the tank there is a gasket that is impossible to find. I've called Resmed and everyone else I can think of. Any ideas where I might find one?
Thanks,
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Dude that cut on your hand must've hurt with all that alcohol
You wouldnt want to clean everything with it...but it might be a good idea to invest in an ultrasonic cleaner for something like this
Does the air going to the patient pass through the foam?
It looks to me like the air passes over the foam, but isn't sucked through it. It is pulled across the surface of that ring as it exits those holes and does a u-turn, but most of it goes through the opening in the middle.
Interesting video. However, you’re forgetting one BIG thing. The prescribed pressures for who ever had it before you could be way off for you.
I monitor my therapy with OSCAR and re-program my pressures quarterly. My pulmonologist checks my pressures once a year and says I'm doing an excellent job of dialing in my pressures. So, no, I'm not forgetting anything, much less a BIG thing.
@@AdventureswithCPAP wasn’t being critical. Just trying to point a potential problem out in case you were not aware. If I came across one like you did, I’d probably take it apart to see what made it tick too!
Ok.. deep cleaning for many will not happen.. Therefore, is best to get a new cpap sooner than lster?
Or... just make sure you change your filters regularly and keep that filter door well maintained!
I bet that alcohol wreaked havoc on your cuts!!!
what if you never used water even once in the machine, would this do anything to it?
Take a look at the air path.
1. Through the replaceable filter on left side.
2. Through motor housing and impeller.
3. Into the humidifier tank.
4. Out of the humidifier tank and to the exhaust.
5. From the exhaust to the tubing.
6. From the tubing into the mask.
The water never encounters the motor at all.