Many thanks for providing us such valuable information... The kind of information we never have time to get in dept with our respective respiratory therapist. (no matter how good they are). Keep up the good work. Very grateful. 💯
In training group session found the heated tube triggered reactive air way. Same chemical used as in some perfumes is used in rubber/plastics to make more plyable. Phthalates are a group of chemicals that are used to make plastics more flexible and durable. Recommend try it before you keep the heated tube triggered. Make some parts (temperature control) of CPAP settings useless.
I don't like to run the furnace at night unless it's arctic cold so when my frozen nose woke me up I decided I needed a heated tube. I've kept the temp fairly low but now my humidifier runs dry in the middle of the night. 😢
@@CPAPmyway Yeah, I've been running out of water too, by the time i wake up. before, I was getting a lot of rain out (gurgling) but often had a half full water tank in the morning. Since I have fiddled around with the setting though, I wake up with a dry mouth and no water. I'll just keep fiddling with it. Thanks for the advice.
Considering that the equipment is okay, I would check the humidity of the room. The machine adds water vapor to the air it is pulling from the room. If the air is too humid, the water in the reservoir will not decrease. If it is too low, not all the water in the reservoir will compensate for the lack of humidity in the room. Depending on the situation, you may want to consider using a humidifier overnight, keeping the relative humidity in the bedroom at 60% or above.
@@universal3025because if you need moderate or more humidity you will get condensation in your tubing or “rainout.” Waking up unable to breathe because your air tube is full of water is a nightmare. But if you need less humidity it may not matter for you. It’s crucial for me in winter when the air is dry but my asthmatic airways still need humidity to tolerate cpap
What if you want LESS humidity? I have HP (a type of interstitial lung disease) and I think I am supposed to stay away from high humidity situations, but I may need a CPAP soon.
Thank you for this video. I recently started using a Resmed 11 with heated tube. More often than not, I’m getting a message that says, “Attention. Heating system error. Therapy may run without heating.” I wake up with the water in the tank still full and my sinuses feel dried out. Other than having a bad machine, can you think of a reason why I’m having this issue? It seems to be a common problem with Resmed 11. My provider hasn’t been much help, so far. Thanks for your help.
Hi Great explanation and thank you. I have an Resmed air sense 10 and are under the care of the NHS UK which services it, I was issued a humidifier water tank yesterday at the hospital my set up is a standard Plastiflex classic 15 air tube (not Heated) Im using Nasal pillows with a humidity setting of 4 (default). My question is will the humidifier work with this set up, the humidifier green smiley face showed this morning after using last night on checking the water tank was still full on felling the water tank the water was at room temperature this was also evident of the warming plate at the bottom of the machine and water tank. do i need to apply any setting? Kind regards John
I have a Luna 3B I use a heated tube and have been given a number of tubes. It has the extra little plug at the end. I feel no humidity. I get rain out and condensation. Any thoughts? I didn’t have this happen on my dream station. With my dream station, I could feel the warm air and I didn’t get the dry mouth. This is terrible and it doesn’t seem to work. My humidity is set up to five.
Have you increased the tube setting as well? There are two separate settings for those. The link below will give a good reference. cpapmyway.com/blog/luna-g3-cpap-setup-guide
The end of the heated tubing that gets connected to the unit;,I used to have a grey inside ending; now it’s Orange, and doesn’t seem to lock onto the machine! Is there a plastic adapter that I’m missing? Or, do I just connect the tubing?
@@CPAPmywayI found out that the piece I was looking for actually comes with the AirSense 10 Mask & Head Harness; it fits on the end of the swivel elbow of the mask; the heated tubing fits over that little dark gray piece! I heard it was called a “frame piece (?)”.
@@CPAPmyway Good question.. I have a Resmed Airsense 11 and considering the heated tube due to the dry throat cough during this time of year (Winter) as our room is kept cool to sleep. Adjusting the humidity didn't do very much other than cause rainout into my nose (nose pillow type of mask) and a dry throat. :-)
You can wash it the same as the regular tubing. So the sleep coach is incorrect. Here is the snip direct from ResMed. ClimateLineAir™ heated tube, SlimLine™ and standard tubing Weekly cleaning tips: 1 Unplug your CPAP machine from the power source. 2 Disconnect the air tubing/hose from your mask and CPAP machine. 3 In a sink or tub, rinse the inside and outside of the air tubing with mild dishwashing liquid and warm, drinking-quality water. Avoid using stronger cleaning products, including dish detergents, as they may damage the air tubing or leave harmful residue. 4 Rinse again thoroughly with warm, drinking-quality water. 5 Place the air tubing on a flat surface, on top of a towel, to dry. Avoid placing in direct sunlight.@@blueflicker
I actually like all the moisture. Can it be bad for you? I've been trying to find the answer. I have to change my p10 mask in the middle of the night since it gets too wet, but I like it. Also, (I just asked this on your other video) when you turn up the humidifier setting, how does it make more humidity? Does it increase the temp of the heating element under the reservoir? Like when you turn up the heat on your stove?
I do not think that it can cause too big of an issue as long as you are comfortable and the equipment is being cleaned very regularly. Moisture can lead to bacteria, mold and mildew if not maintained. The moisture is added by heating the water more causing more to evaporate.
I drain my water chamber nearly every night. Heated tube with humidity on 2. Any suggestions why ? I hate the burning smell I get after the water run out after about 8 hrs of sleep. Tube temp is set at 70, sometimes 68. Thank you
That unfortunately is a Dr question. I know that most of the customers I have dealt with use heated humidifiers, and they are the high end versions of the humidifiers.
Hi. I'm Dan from the UK. I have just watched your video titled "Heated Tubing for CPAP - Do you need it?". I have removed my heated tubing and replaced it with the standard hose. My problem with the heated tubing is that the warm air from the humidifier and tube made my head get hot. By breathing in heated air, my face and neck became uncomfortably sweaty. It was unpleasant waking in the night to find soaked nightwear and pillows. Sometimes, it was so unpleasant I had to change bedding etc. in the middle of the night! I have now set the humidifier to zero, and have swapped the tube for a standard unheated one. Since swapping, the heated tube for a standard tube, I'm glad to say that my head no longer gets hot, and, dry mouth problems have been miraculously eliminated. I'm delighted to recommend ditching the water heating and heated tube arrangement. 🎉 I was hoping to hear your thoughts and opinions regarding my problem. But as this issue was not mentioned in your video, I wonder if I'm the only guy who has had this horrible problem. Thanks for reading this.
I have heard it’s too hot more with the Hybernite tube since it doesn’t have a temperature adjustment, just on or off. If you don’t need the humidity, ditching the heated tube is fine. If you do, I would experiment with turning down the temperature. The ResMed devices allow manual temperature controls
I have a ResMed AirCurve 10 Bipap with the heated tube , manual makes no mention of the heated tube, can it be cleaned the same as the non-heated, submersion in soapy water?
Most of them are cleaned the exact same way as regular tubing. But some of them have specifics. So you should check the manual that came with them for details.
Please help, I have used a CPAP for 25 years and I just got the AirSense11 with the heated tube. This is the first heated tube I have used and am getting the rain out. This is very frustrating to my wife and myself as it gurgles in the hose and wakes us up. Am I not using enough humidity or too much? How can I prevent this from happening?
Submerge in mild soap and water, then rinse it really well. A tube brush works really well. Link to that below. Be sure to dry really well before you hook it back up. cpapmyway.com/store/cpap-tube-brush-kit
I used a heat tube, I keep turn the heat down until it was off, so I do not need the heated tube. the Machine blues air out of the tube for several minutes, after it is turned off, disconnect the mask, put the tube on the floor, gravity helps, and the tube drives out. I done this for 7 years, I replace my standard tube every 6 to 12 months, I can detect orders well and it clean, If I needed to clean the tube, I would use H2O2 (Hydrogen Peroxide) about a cup and move it back and forth, run bottled water through the tube and the rinse the tube with a cup of distilled water.
Issue I have with my air sense 11 and Dreamwisp nasal mask is that I get a rash on the front of my nose where air enters. Is this what you are talking about? Thx
I don't understand the rationale of this video. A heated tube used to increase humidity? Since when does heat increase humidity? Heat is temperature. Not water vapor in the hair. Temperature and air humidity are two different Physics variables. So this video didn't mention the main reason why a heated tube is used. To warm up the air. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
The warmer the air, the more humidity it will hold. Without a heated tube the air will cool rapidly as it passes through the tubing and the humidity in the air condenses into water. This causes literal rain in the tubing which is very irritating to CPAP users. Cold air does not hold much humidity.
so basically. The standard tubing will work with the humidity setting BUT the heating tubing works better with the humidity setting because of the metal coils in it right ?
Many thanks for providing us such valuable information... The kind of information we never have time to get in dept with our respective respiratory therapist. (no matter how good they are). Keep up the good work. Very grateful. 💯
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Your info was on time. Will see tonight if it makes a difference. Thanks
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In training group session found the heated tube triggered reactive air way. Same chemical used as in some perfumes is used in rubber/plastics to make more plyable. Phthalates are a group of chemicals that are used to make plastics more flexible and durable. Recommend try it before you keep the heated tube triggered. Make some parts (temperature control) of CPAP settings useless.
Thanks for the info
another great video with very good information
Thank you!
I don't like to run the furnace at night unless it's arctic cold so when my frozen nose woke me up I decided I needed a heated tube. I've kept the temp fairly low but now my humidifier runs dry in the middle of the night. 😢
Yeh that is tough there is not enough water for the night the only option is to reduce the humidity a bit or continue to run out.
@@CPAPmyway
Yeah, I've been running out of water too, by the time i wake up. before, I was getting a lot of rain out (gurgling) but often had a half full water tank in the morning. Since I have fiddled around with the setting though, I wake up with a dry mouth and no water. I'll just keep fiddling with it.
Thanks for the advice.
Considering that the equipment is okay, I would check the humidity of the room. The machine adds water vapor to the air it is pulling from the room. If the air is too humid, the water in the reservoir will not decrease. If it is too low, not all the water in the reservoir will compensate for the lack of humidity in the room. Depending on the situation, you may want to consider using a humidifier overnight, keeping the relative humidity in the bedroom at 60% or above.
Or you can use the heated tube and turn off the settings for using it. Quick YT search. Great info, thanks!
Thanks for the info!
Should I be switching back to the regular tubes in the summer times where isnt as much dry air in my place. ( I live in ontario*)
It is up to you. Using standard tubing is cheaper if you do not have to use the heated tube.
Why don’t you just turn off the heat feature under the climate control setting ..
@@universal3025because if you need moderate or more humidity you will get condensation in your tubing or “rainout.” Waking up unable to breathe because your air tube is full of water is a nightmare. But if you need less humidity it may not matter for you. It’s crucial for me in winter when the air is dry but my asthmatic airways still need humidity to tolerate cpap
do you need the humidifier with the heated tube ? If explain how to do if.
The heated tubing does not serve much purpose without putting water in the chamber.
What if you want LESS humidity? I have HP (a type of interstitial lung disease)
and I think I am supposed to stay away from high humidity situations, but I may need a CPAP soon.
You can use the CPAP without water. We have a great blog on that.
cpapmyway.com/blog/can-i-use-my-cpap-without-water-pros-and-cons
The standard tube works with an "L" piece on the back. Does the heated tube come with a similar direction converter?
Thank you for this video.
I recently started using a Resmed 11 with heated tube. More often than not, I’m getting a message that says, “Attention. Heating system error. Therapy may run without heating.” I wake up with the water in the tank still full and my sinuses feel dried out.
Other than having a bad machine, can you think of a reason why I’m having this issue? It seems to be a common problem with Resmed 11. My provider hasn’t been much help, so far. Thanks for your help.
In almost every case that I have seen with this particular error, the AirSense 11 has to go back to ResMed for repair.
Thank you for your reply!
Always welcome! @@randymiller3070
Hi Great explanation and thank you.
I have an Resmed air sense 10 and are under the care of the NHS UK which services it,
I was issued a humidifier water tank yesterday at the hospital my set up is a standard Plastiflex classic 15 air tube (not Heated) Im using Nasal pillows with a humidity setting of 4 (default).
My question is will the humidifier work with this set up, the humidifier green smiley face showed this morning after using last night on checking the water tank was still full on felling the water tank the water was at room temperature this was also evident of the warming plate at the bottom of the machine and water tank. do i need to apply any setting?
Kind regards
John
The humidifier will work with heated tubing.
I have a Luna 3B I use a heated tube and have been given a number of tubes. It has the extra little plug at the end. I feel no humidity. I get rain out and condensation. Any thoughts? I didn’t have this happen on my dream station. With my dream station, I could feel the warm air and I didn’t get the dry mouth. This is terrible and it doesn’t seem to work. My humidity is set up to five.
Have you increased the tube setting as well? There are two separate settings for those. The link below will give a good reference.
cpapmyway.com/blog/luna-g3-cpap-setup-guide
The end of the heated tubing that gets connected to the unit;,I used to have a grey inside ending; now it’s Orange, and doesn’t seem to lock onto the machine! Is there a plastic adapter that I’m missing? Or, do I just connect the tubing?
I would have to see that to know exactly what you are talking about.
@@CPAPmywayI found out that the piece I was looking for actually comes with the AirSense 10 Mask & Head Harness; it fits on the end of the swivel elbow of the mask; the heated tubing fits over that little dark gray piece! I heard it was called a “frame piece (?)”.
Airsense11 how do I remove regular hose from the adapter to connect adapter to the heated hose?
The video link below will explain that in full detail.
cpapmyway.com/blog/connect-oxygen-to-your-cpap
Can you post a video on how to clean the heated tube?
Got it.
thanks
@@ceuser3555 Very welcome.
I found the heated tubing was hard to adjust to. It is heavier and I almost m o ve and got airleanks.
Definitely adds weight.
Can you do a video on how to wash a heated tube? The sleep coach said it can’t get wet. I’m not sure how to clean it.
Which CPAP model are you using?
@@CPAPmyway Good question.. I have a Resmed Airsense 11 and considering the heated tube due to the dry throat cough during this time of year (Winter) as our room is kept cool to sleep. Adjusting the humidity didn't do very much other than cause rainout into my nose (nose pillow type of mask) and a dry throat. :-)
You can wash it the same as the regular tubing. So the sleep coach is incorrect. Here is the snip direct from ResMed.
ClimateLineAir™ heated tube, SlimLine™ and standard tubing
Weekly cleaning tips:
1
Unplug your CPAP machine from the power source.
2
Disconnect the air tubing/hose from your mask and CPAP machine.
3
In a sink or tub, rinse the inside and outside of the air tubing with mild dishwashing liquid and warm, drinking-quality water. Avoid using stronger cleaning products, including dish detergents, as they may damage the air tubing or leave harmful residue.
4
Rinse again thoroughly with warm, drinking-quality water.
5
Place the air tubing on a flat surface, on top of a towel, to dry. Avoid placing in direct sunlight.@@blueflicker
I actually like all the moisture. Can it be bad for you? I've been trying to find the answer. I have to change my p10 mask in the middle of the night since it gets too wet, but I like it.
Also, (I just asked this on your other video)
when you turn up the humidifier setting, how does it make more humidity?
Does it increase the temp of the heating element under the reservoir? Like when you turn up the heat on your stove?
I do not think that it can cause too big of an issue as long as you are comfortable and the equipment is being cleaned very regularly. Moisture can lead to bacteria, mold and mildew if not maintained.
The moisture is added by heating the water more causing more to evaporate.
Good video.
How can you tell if your heated tube is actually heating the air in the tube? Dreamstation II...
Typically as long as you do not see condensation in the tube it is working. I believe that model will also alert you if the tubing has a fault.
I drain my water chamber nearly every night. Heated tube with humidity on 2. Any suggestions why ? I hate the burning smell I get after the water run out after about 8 hrs of sleep. Tube temp is set at 70, sometimes 68. Thank you
Thanks man,very helpful advice✌🏼
I’m allergic to copper. Do the coils affect the inside of the tube directly?
I am not sure about that.
Do you recommend a heated humidifier for people with a tracheostomy?
That unfortunately is a Dr question. I know that most of the customers I have dealt with use heated humidifiers, and they are the high end versions of the humidifiers.
@@CPAPmyway I think everyone with a trach should have one.
Hi. I'm Dan from the UK. I have just watched your video titled "Heated Tubing for CPAP - Do you need it?".
I have removed my heated tubing and replaced it with the standard hose. My problem with the heated tubing is that the warm air from the humidifier and tube made my head get hot. By breathing in heated air, my face and neck became uncomfortably sweaty. It was unpleasant waking in the night to find soaked nightwear and pillows. Sometimes, it was so unpleasant I had to change bedding etc. in the middle of the night!
I have now set the humidifier to zero, and have swapped the tube for a standard unheated one. Since swapping, the heated tube for a standard tube, I'm glad to say that my head no longer gets hot, and, dry mouth problems have been miraculously eliminated. I'm delighted to recommend ditching the water heating and heated tube arrangement. 🎉
I was hoping to hear your thoughts and opinions regarding my problem. But as this issue was not mentioned in your video, I wonder if I'm the only guy who has had this horrible problem.
Thanks for reading this.
I am not sure what to make of that.
Is the humidity and heated tube better for people with asthma?
@@marciakoch4043generally yes
I have heard it’s too hot more with the Hybernite tube since it doesn’t have a temperature adjustment, just on or off. If you don’t need the humidity, ditching the heated tube is fine. If you do, I would experiment with turning down the temperature. The ResMed devices allow manual temperature controls
I have a ResMed AirCurve 10 Bipap with the heated tube , manual makes no mention of the heated tube, can it be cleaned the same as the non-heated, submersion in soapy water?
Yes it can be cleaned with warm soapy water. Rinse it really well.
@@CPAPmyway Thank you!
Every time I use a heated tube it runs my water dry in my reservoir. I also have the air sense 11.
That can happen. May want to try decreasing the humidity a bit.
When should a heated tubing be replaced?
Now I know, thank you. 👍
Happy to help
I need a video on each component that needs to be cleaned, how to clean it, and how often it needs to be done.
Will add that to the list.
Thank you.
@@ceuser3555 You are welcome.
How to clean the heating tube?
Most of them are cleaned the exact same way as regular tubing. But some of them have specifics. So you should check the manual that came with them for details.
Please help, I have used a CPAP for 25 years and I just got the AirSense11 with the heated tube. This is the first heated tube I have used and am getting the rain out. This is very frustrating to my wife and myself as it gurgles in the hose and wakes us up. Am I not using enough humidity or too much? How can I prevent this from happening?
You should decrease humidity and increase tube temp till it resolves.
I have swapped the heated tube for a standard. I no longer get dry mouth problems, nor do I get any hot head issues that make me sweat in the night.
My tube Climateline Air 11 has holes that looks like melted holes.
That is super weird. Would love to see pictures of that if you can email them. cs@cpapmyway.com
i have my heated tube plugged in, but it says heated tube unconnected, why is that??
Are you wearing the mask when you get that message?
Hello...I just received my heated tubing....how do I clean it?
Can I run the brush through the tube
Submerge in mild soap and water, then rinse it really well. A tube brush works really well. Link to that below. Be sure to dry really well before you hook it back up.
cpapmyway.com/store/cpap-tube-brush-kit
Can I UV sanitize the heated tubing?
Why does my water resavwore run out of water in the middle of the night
Check out this blog. It should help with that.
cpapmyway.com/blog/cpap-running-out-water
Never use one TBH love the cool air before sleep but hate the dry mouth after wake up
Thanks for the input.
I used a heat tube, I keep turn the heat down until it was off, so I do not need the heated tube. the Machine blues air out of the tube for several minutes, after it is turned off, disconnect the mask, put the tube on the floor, gravity helps, and the tube drives out. I done this for 7 years, I replace my standard tube every 6 to 12 months, I can detect orders well and it clean, If I needed to clean the tube, I would use H2O2 (Hydrogen Peroxide) about a cup and move it back and forth, run bottled water through the tube and the rinse the tube with a cup of distilled water.
Thanks for the input.
Something noone addresses is that using a heated tube or any setting that causes heat, can cause a rosacea flare up. It happened to me.
Thanks for the input.
Issue I have with my air sense 11 and Dreamwisp nasal mask is that I get a rash on the front of my nose where air enters. Is this what you are talking about? Thx
my wife knit me a sock for my tube that stoped the rain out
I don't understand the rationale of this video. A heated tube used to increase humidity? Since when does heat increase humidity?
Heat is temperature. Not water vapor in the hair.
Temperature and air humidity are two different Physics variables.
So this video didn't mention the main reason why a heated tube is used. To warm up the air.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
The warmer the air, the more humidity it will hold. Without a heated tube the air will cool rapidly as it passes through the tubing and the humidity in the air condenses into water. This causes literal rain in the tubing which is very irritating to CPAP users. Cold air does not hold much humidity.
so basically. The standard tubing will work with the humidity setting BUT the heating tubing works better with the humidity setting because of the metal coils in it right ?
Yes, the heated tubing will provide the best humidification.