Crosman MAG-Fire .22 ULTRA- Out of the box scope setup and testing - This was NOT Fun!
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We’ve had this sitting around for a good while now. You all hear me talk about Gamo Swarm Multi-Shot airguns and how they are the best on the market. Here’s our first look at another option, the Crosman MAG-Fire .22 ULTRA with 3-9x40 AO Scope. Does it measure up? Let’s find out.
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Wow..
Many many years ago I clearly chose Crosman over a Gamo breakbarrel.. Never regretted my .177 Crosman Phantom, which shoots fantastic.. But, nowadays; I'd absolutely go with a Gamo Swarm breakbarrel over something like this rifle featured here..
But still the phantom over the swarm? 😜
Finally not a a Gamo
I know right???? It seems like everyone always picks on gamo.... and the reality of it is they are by far and wide not the worst ones
Hi Rick. You shoud not use a phone to measure the loudnes of a gun shot. It can't measure the short peak in loudness. Keep up the good work!
When you get one and have the time, review the relatively new Hastan SpeedFire Magnum 1250 .22. Only multi-shot break barrel magnum on the market besides Gamo's version. Very few reviews on it, probably not a good sign.
Thanks and nice job Rick! Ship it back! Bad rifle! With the cocking being so light you got a bad one. Crosman's "Quality Control" has really gone down since the holding group Velocity Outdoors took over! The Crosman Extreme in .177 my friend has is a very good 30 yard break barrel.
Yo what up,I sent my Barra1100z in for repair
@@leojones7266 That sucks. what happened?
Got me Gman !
I purchased a Steel eagle a number of years ago and I had high hopes it was going to be a real step forward for Crosman, turned out to be the only rifle I couldn't get to shoot well in my life time. I tried everything conceivable but to no avail, it has since went to the garbage pile as I wouldn't even keep it for parts, as I doubt I will ever purchase another one
Looks almost identical to my Benjamin Vaporizer 177.
Edit: just realized crosman made Benjamin lol. Anyways besides it being a heavier rifle its a great gun. It was my first rifle .. then i bought the Gamo Magnum in 22.
At 10m i can put 3 shots in the same hole .. pretty accurate gun.
Scope is pretty decent too.. definitely better than the Gamo scope. Only negative i havw is its heavy.
That's a bit weird Rick. I was just looking at this Crosman last night and checking out reviews. Today you have the review I was looking for. Saved me some trouble. They have refurbished models on sale pretty cheap, but now I remember why I stick with Spanish, German or UK made breakbarrels. Would love to see a review on the Norica ZRS that Pyramid Air now offers. Very interesting zero recoil system but a but pricey.
You're not the only one who's had a bad experience with that gun
Sounds like you have a bad gas ram I believe that’s the slowest 22 cal gas ram gun I’ve seen anybody do a review on
For some weird reason , the .177 Mag Fire Mission performs to specifications. Thanks for the review, .22 would've been a disappointment. I Want FPE !
I think you got a bad rifle from factory ! Nitro Piston Elite is supposed to be Crosmans Magnum piston !
PLEASE - Exchange your rifle and give us a updated review!?. 😢
Yeah you might have gotten a bad one plus it sitting around so long is it good for the seals out-of-the-box mine was getting just under 15 foot-pounds of energy and 177 and 10 out of 12 shots were at a bottle top size at 25 yards the only bad thing that happened to me was the scope but it came with broke but it's shooting much better now that it is broken in
Beat me to this one 🍕 boy
Seems like you already had your opinion when this video started. I also have this gun and it's one of the most powerfull gun this far. That mag system is big +. And this is most accurate this far.
Hey there.. I was hoping for a better showing from this gun actually. But. if you are happy with yours, that's great. This one was a turd.
Cheers
AGW
How much did Gamo pay you for this review ? Seems you had made you're mind up before you even stareted
Not at all on both fronts. This was out of my pocket. I paid for the gun, editing, and publishing. I received nothing for it. Same will be true for the Hatsan Speed Fire that I’ll do next.
I had no agenda. Had it shot well I would have been pleased to show it doing so. Competition is good for consumers. If anyone creates something that competes on usability, performance, and accuracy to challenge Gamo I’ll be thrilled.
Cheers
AGW.
has any crossman nitro piston ever shot well?
How can you say with any sincerity that Gamo is the best and your favourite when you have any PCP to choose from. It’s was Gamo I first thought and realized what a POS it was and started on my quest for quality airguns then lead me to what I’ve been shooting the past 4yrs, FX Impact MKII and Daystates.
@@FYMM69 sweat heart Rick is talking about crosman vs gamo experience, he never said gamo break barrels are more accurate than PCPs!!!!!
I agree, Rick was definitely bias from the get go. Rick seemed kinda offended when he replied to my comment, saying he didnt care what i thought and i had no idea how much work he put into it. It was quite a long paragraph for not caring what i thought, lol.
Ok wish I would have seen this review earlier, my first air gun when I got back into them was the MAG-FIRE in a .177 ... Had the same problem, clean the barrel and all. What I found out is (before I got sick), Is that the baffle system in it is a poor design... the flip back and forth, with no were for the air to go... (the Benjamin Prowler has the same design...) that one does not shoot good either... What I end up doing is drilling relief holes in the shroud... 4 on the top pointing at an angle forward like an air stripper, 3 on each side on the 1st 3 indented slots... now I measured them out, so they matched the baffle pointing out in the shroud... The groupings got a lot better, however still only a 10/15-yard air gun... Seen you-tube later were someone just drilled out the 4 dented slots at the end of the muzzle... will be trying that on the Benjamin... FYI the Benjamin trail has a different baffle... but has different threading and will not screw on the MAG-FIRE or Benjamin Prowler... All in all, almost gave up on air gunning because of this non-American made air gun.... JUST SAYING... Big C 😎, FYI my $70 Gamo Rocket (Real springer,) will shoot rings around the Crosman...👍
Thanks Rick , but ho hum actually dosed off .Less talk more rock .
I got one three weeks ago, and it is very powerful and accurate. At 50 yards, without the scope on it, bullseye . the pallets went right through a 1 inch board with ease but not a 2 inch board 😅. I love it 👏.
11:26 Wow that is so weak I doubt you could hurt someone point blank firing it in their eye lol!
How much price this gun sir $
@Blockah Actually ya good chance it would kill you.. Great comment though. You sound smart😂!!
@@jschanzenbachMate you've got shoppers syndrome, it fires a pellet, What at one and then reload?
@@BlockahNo. Not even as a "joke" in the comments section of an airgun channel.
.22 cal, 14gr pellets:
Crosman's 950fps means 700fps.
Crosman's 975fps means 745fps.
Crosman's 495fps means 420fps.
Gamo Swarm Magnum's 1300fps means 900fps.
6.5PRC's 1658fps means 1658fps (@ 1000yds, just checkin if you're still reading this)
Thanks for this review 👍😉
Hey Rick, will you make a video on the new hatsan zada.
That looks like the same stock as the Benjamin Steel Eagle. I'm wondering how it compares, since my Steel Eagle works well. Especially with the Benjamin Discover 14.3 grain pellets.
DB is actually dB. A subtle, but important distinction.
Ive had the same pellet sizing issue with crosman pellets, using a sig sauer brand pellet gun, the pellets kept falling through the mag.
Also, crosman website currently lists this guns FPS as 1,300, which seemed high to me, and in all the reviews ive seen the highest it reaches was ~730, so ~500 with whatever grain those might've been could make sense. What a bummer, i always thought of crosman as being a really great brand as a kid.
I ordered a magfire ultra a month and a half ago and it still hasn't shipped 😖😖😖
hey Rick
i have the crossman benjamin trail np2 and it is a great back yard plinker and very accurate and quiet..i love it,looks like crossman have been getting worse to be honest.
like you i love the gamo stuff,i have 4 gamo swarms and you just cant beat them if you are looking for multi shot break barrels with quality.
so your scope rail didn't fall off like other NP2s?
@@mikem201 I think they addressed that problem eventually,mine has been solid
Gamos are awesome... especially for entry level air guns
I’ve had so many Crosman lemons. The first generation NP guns were particularly bad. 🍋
Had the Vaporizer for Pest control and it was a powerful rifle but man alive it was pellet PICKY! I recommend Gamo and save up for a more expensive scope and you’ll be content 👍
I appreciate the video. Maybe it’s just me and my debilitating ADD, but it was torture.
To me it sounds like my son's toy rifle.
I'm a PCP guy but wanted something for my granddaughters to shoot, learn gun safety and responsibility,I bought the Gamo viper last week because of the Mag system, and love it and now glad didn't buy the crosman, the storm was $50 more but fit-and-finish is everything to me.
I have a Benjamin Rushmore which is basically the twin to the trail xl and at 15 yards I can't get it to group at all ! I've tried 36 different pellets in it with no luck ! I just don't get it my trail xl in 25 cal is a great shooter at 45 yards !
Rick if it's a good review or a bad review the truth needs to be told about a airgun !
So you can return it.
I would normally but I’ve had it over a year. If they have a longer warranty I will certainly look to run it through warranty.
Cheers
AGW
Please update if you get an exchange.
I have purchased the newest version of this and will revisit this video soon.
Thank you for watching
AGW
Hello from Alberta Rick , I have a gamo speedster , when i cock the gun sometimes the pellets fall out of the mag before the probe can push the pellet into the barrel , any thoughts on whats happening?
When i watched this, i feel like you approached this like a newbe instead of someone with the experience you have. Was kinda disappointing. Then you had your typical gamo commercial inserted in there.
You know darn well the gun needs break in time, and search for your good pellet. You did not go into this video with the enthusiasm you have for your gamos.
Think what you want.. I really don't care.. but for the sake of those that will read your comment and not understand the point of this video and how I work, I will reply. I went into this as any person buying it off the street would experience. That's what I do with ALL my out of the box videos. I get to the other stuff, i.e. extensive pellet testing, etc., after the out of the box portion. 90% of what we get in these days just works.. right out of the box. no break in needed, no barrel cleaning needed, no fuss. That alone needs to be part of the discussion. Velocity is not going to improve with break in.. it will get slower. Accuray "might" improve, but after 15 years of doing this.. When a gun shoots like this out of the box, it's not getting better no matter how much you shoot it to "break it in." It's possible that sitting has impacted the gas ram... that's also a discussion to have. I've had more gas rams fail just sitting in a gun case, than I ever had metal springs fail, even when cocked for long periods of time.
Additionally, you have ZERO idea of the time I spent off camera (it was hours) doing whatever I could to try and make this gun shoot well. It's been a very long time since I've had a Gamo shoot this poorly out of the box, maybe never. It's why I said maybe I have a bad gun?? All my emails to crosman (in the past) go unanswered.. I'd be more than pleased to take another look at another one and see if this one was just a dud.
So again.. think what you want.. say what you want, but the premises and assumptions of your comment were just wrong.
Cheers
AGW
i have 2 hw’s and i never had to shoot them in, or look for the magic pellet.
@@AirGunWeb you do care, thats why you responded. Maybe you got a bad gun, sure. Point to my comment was.... you did not go into this video with the same enthusiasm as you usually do, then you threw the gamo advert in there.
FYI my Beeman 10616 177 shot .25" groups at 18 yards right out of the box. Did not even clean rhe barrel. It got more accurate after 30 shots. It is German designed. Go figure.
Glad I didn’t waste money on break barrels and went to PCP!
Nothing wrong with break barrels
I don't think anyone asked you
@@leojones7266 I guess I had a bad experience with the sorti tact.
Gamo swarm whisper is way better
@@pricelessppp pros and cons for both ,I have both and enjoy .
Try FX pellets 16 grain
Seems to be a lot of crosman butthurt here. Note on the triggers, the bearing mod alone just reduces pretravel and does not reduce the safety of the mechanism. Besides that, i can say from my own experience that gamos have consistently improved upon themselves over the last 15 years while crosman has remained the same old pigs in fancier, cheaper, more tacticool dress. Even their centerpoint brand scopes have gone down the toilet since they dumped leapers as their manufacturer in 2012. Gamo is not my absolute favorite, and i personally have no use for the swarm mech, but they absolutely blow crosman/benjamin out of the water in value and performance.
Agree. Crosman = poor quality control. If any.
Not butthurt ,It was the way he came across compared to his other reviews.
Honestly? My Gamo Swarm (gen 2) in .22 was firing similarly at 10 yards (if not worse). I cleaned the barrel - and it began shooting in to a single hole. You've gotta clean the gun to make it a fair review.
Those shots were after we cleaned the barrel..... and when needed, we always do. We show out-of-the-box results. If those are not up to expectations, then we do what we need to try and get it shooting as it should.. 95 out of 100 guns don't need anything to shoot like they should. It's the exception, not the rule, that we need to clean the barrel first.
Cheers
AGW
@@AirGunWeb Excellent - I'd tend to disagree re: generalization about guns needing nothing to shoot like they should, but glad to hear that the barrel was clean for this review (stating that it's "out of the box" may be misleading if you don't demonstrate/state that it has been cleaned). I'll be avoiding the Crosman - thanks for the thorough review!
I mention in the video all I did to get what we got.
Cheers
AGW
Aren't you supposed to clean the barrel of ANY new gun out of the box before first use? Don't these need about 100 rounds to "break in" to achieve their best accuracy?
Totally depends on the gun. Modern, decent guns work right out of the box. Break in is also not what it used to be. Most guns just shoot without the old school methods. I have not seen any real advantage in cleaning and break in over just shooting it as it comes out of the box. There are always exceptions to that, but with what I’ve been shooting, it’s been all good.
Cheers
AGW
@@AirGunWeb Yeah, not familiar with air guns, just know all new firearms are coated inside and out in case they sit on a shelf for a while before first use.
Another excellent review made by you. An excellent review...of a bad airgun. None, and I mean N O N E of its features justifies the word "Ultra" being a part of its name. Sorry Crossman, you used to be among the best airgun producers...
I just got a Magfire Extreme and it was an inaccurate garbage pile of a gun. Just sent it back today. I’ll never buy another Crosman Magfire type airgun.
Definitely saw some bad reviews for this one. Seemed to see some better for the ultra but I'm cautiously hopeful🤣
This dude give himself a expert tittle but he basically says everything that is printed in the manuals 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
I wouldn't take a Crosman if you gave it to me. They still making rifles where the scope rails fall off?
The magnum (GAMO) that you and your friend recommended me in one of your videos is PURE CRAP specially the 177 that shoots all over the 5.5 shoots better but not even good maybe 3 stars i ended up giving them away 🤔🤔🤔
Price $?
400 USD
the mag kicks out every 3 pellet
sounds like this gun sucks honestly. i do like crossman pellets though mine always seems very uniform in my gamo.
Got one and it's garbage too, what a waste of time and money
Wait do you have to reload it after every shot? WTF!
@@Judge2011 Was looking for a self defence tool in a country where they don't allow you to get a gun license when you have traffic offences and other things.
Not everyone is able to know everything like you, sorry about it big hero.
@@Judge2011 You realize I am new here and I asked one question?
So far it is has been you who is throwing clown faces, insults, and poop.
I think you need help mate.
Thanks for the positive feedback and go look in a mirror.
This is most lame air gun, I don’t take it even you give me for free
11:26 Wow that is so weak I doubt you could hurt someone point blank firing it in their eye lol!
Penca tus reviews eres muy hablador y malo para tirar aburres
It's obvious that you are on the payroll for Gamo.
I don't believe a thing that you say watch your videos from as far back as 14 years ago
Then you think he's handsome and you're in love with the man for you to think that he ain't 💩 and yet you keep stopping by to stalk around and comment your bull💩 on videos on his channel! I don't think he rolls like that bro. TF are you doing on here then????🤡🤡🤡
To much talking in here that it gets boring sorry
Gamo fan boy . You just stick with a vise locking down a pcp then u could hit something. Just messing with u . But u need to shoot more to get skills. Not with a gun locked down all u do is literally pull a trigger. You'll learn to shoot get some skills