In 2023 upgrading your Xbox One with a 2TB SATA 3 SSD is a must It's not just about the loading speed It's actually about improving the frame rate stutter replacing the internal hard drive with a internal SSD not only improves the loading time it improves everything And it can also fix some Xbox games that run really bad under 30fps such as Just cause 3 which is the worst performing Xbox game ever made but in my experience I played Just cause 3 on my original Xbox One with a built-in SATA 3 SSD Now it runs extremely consistent at 30fps even when I was causing so much explosions I also tested a few Xbox games that run so bad like elden Ring Star Wars Jedi fallen order especially when you arrive on kashyyk I was shocked how stable the frame rate is including cyberpunk 2077 which also runs fully locked at 30fps So I am convinced that Microsoft and Sony should have included every Xbox One and PS4 with a built-in SATA 3 SSD unlike the internal hard drive really held back every console game from running at their best So if you're wondering yes I still play on my OG Xbox One and PS4 Slim both equipped with a built-in internal 2TB SATA 3 SSD and I'm telling you right now it's the best way to enjoy console games at their best performance and say goodbye to no more framerate stutter
What people forget to factor in is the fact if you game a lot. 10 seconds here and there 1 minute here etc adds up over time. Also install time increases significantly. Save time etc. I put an ssd in my ps3 i played tales of xillia for 80 hours. I saw the loading screen... Once for about 1 second maybe just under.
The SSD is not bottled necked because the USB 3.0 interface can handle 5gbps which the SSD will never reach and yes SATA 2 is faster but it does not matter because the SSD is not gonna reach that speed.
And how do we know that your enclosure is not limiting factor between SSD and SSHD? Why wouldn't you test something like Samsung T SSD drives which are actually USB3.0 SSD drives? How was SSHD tested? Single game on it on fresh drive loaded multiple times or actual real world performance where there are multiple games thatare on it and each loaded recently? These are major factors that you are excluding mentioning/testing.
Would love to see you guys revisit this... One S and One X, internal drives vs external 5400 vs external SSHD vs External SSD. The reports around the Internet are very conflicting if the internal drive in the one X is faster.
Why are the load times in The Witcher 3 so long on console? I'm only using a 7200RPM HDD for The Witcher 3, yet spawning back into an area takes 15 seconds max. Fast traveling take about 5-10 seconds.
+Dmitry Shubkin No it isnt usb3 can more then handle max transfer of sata2. Sata2 is the limiter on both ps4 and xboxone as that cant handle the full speed of an ssd
Don't let yourselves be fooled by theoretical numbers. The real usable data transfer rate of USB 3.0 (or USB 3.1 Gen 1 as it is called now) is considered to be at about 300 MB/s, because it is a rather inefficient protocol. This also depends heavily on the device-side controller and the host-side controller. So if you have a fast SSD this can potentially be a limiting factor. On the other hand, data transfer rate of SATA II is also at about 300 MB/s. In conclusion: When given the choice, using SATA II over USB 3.0 might still be better because of lower latency, which is one of the main advantages of using an SSD over a traditional HDD.
Dang. I wish i would have seen this video before buying a samsung 850 ssd last year. A sshd looks promising with lots more storage space for the price.
You guys should do a SSHD , SSD & HDD test on Fallout 4 for PC . That game's engine is cancer to my HDD . Loading times varies from 0:50 ~ 1:30 outdoors and 30~40secs indoors ...
Of course you can do that with a 2TB solid state drive. I keep my Xbox One forever until that internal hard drive needs a replacement I have no idea when.
The drive speed has a massive relationship between the bus speed and cpu itself, for if this was simply limited to drive speed, the SSD should have simply walked over that slow little 5400rpm by many times.
Think the test would of been better if there was a 7200rpm drive in there. As well just to give the full picture of performance for all the possible upgrade roots.
Just like in the PS4, it's not the interface that's holding back the SSD's, it's the low performance tablet CPU, the only noticable gains are in large open-world games.
There´s a big problem in this test. Everyone knows that the Internal Stock Xbox One Hard Drive is pluged internally in a SATA 2 port. The USB 3.0 is faster than the internal SATA 2 port (5 Gb/s for USB 3 x 3Gb/s for SATA 2). So, even if you plugged a normal HDD in the USB 3 port, the game will load faster than the internal HDD. So, the results that you got on the SSHD are irrelevant, cause you should have compare it against a normal HDD.
+Joao Melo There´s another point....To get very similiar loading times in the SSD and the SSHD, i think that you run the game more than one time to get the results. It´s clear that when you run the game more than one time in the SSHD, the NAND FLASH SSD MEMORY acts like a cache. So, when you start the game for the first time, it will run from the normal mecanic disk. If you close the game and put it to run again, it will run from the NAND FLASH, so the loading times results are very similar from the SSD and the SSHD.
I realize I'm replying to a comment over 2 years after it was made, but hopefully this will clear it up for others. You may have also learned this in the time it took me to see this comment. While you are correct about the speed of sata 2 vs the theoretical speed of USB 3.0, HDDs can't even fully utilize sata 2 speeds, especially a 5400rpm drive (7200 average 183 MB/s, 5400 163 MB/s). I've never tested the speed of a usb based HDD at 3.0 speeds, but I'm fairly certain it wouldn't make much of a difference, which may have been a reason they didn't bother testing one.
@@golly276 Well, like the video states, best bang for your buck is still an SSHD, but an SSD is the fastest drive you can get, at least through a SATA or USB 3.0 connection.
I would personally just get the 750gb Western Digital Scorpio Black hard drive or Hitatchi 1TB 7200 rpm hard drive. Most cost effective for the console users.
Do keep in mind an external SSD using USB 3.0 will slow down over time as trim is not available and will also give you slower read speeds without native command queuing available etc. Is there no way to rip out the slow original harddrive of the xbox one ?
It is absolutely possible. However, from what I've seen, you can't increase the capacity. Or rather, you can't change the size of the user content partition. The info I've seen could very well be wrong regarding the partition, however.
Bought an external SSD for my Wii U and it does the job better than my older external HDD. Some games like Splinter Cell Blacklist didn't get any different, but for most games like AC 3 and 4 and Zelda, it did make a difference.
If they actually compared them (if nVidia made SSDs), the AMD SSD would destroy the nVidia SSD and they would say that the AMD SSD is 'just beating it by a bit' because they're retarded biased nVidia fanboys.
+Ameer Mahmood You do know that there are already a lot of ssd manufacturers. It is highly unlikely that nvidia or amd would even put up their brand names in ssd products.
The trion 150 series from OCZ is the updated version of their budget drives and it's both faster and cheaper. You might want to look to see if you can find a 150 for less than a same capacity 100, it might be a better deal.
I think your test is not considering the difference in BUS speed. The internal SATA and the USB in this case, are in par? You may lose a lot with an external USB, even if the drive itself is faster. Has Xbox One USB 3.0?
Question: When I’m playing Kingdom Come: Deliverance lot of the times the area needs to load up the graphics and NPC because my horse moves fast. Does upgrading to an SSD help load areas faster?
I thought it was better to plus it into the side port. If that’s true, this video is invalid. I should also mention that you should move the games you want to play into the ssd for optimal results. Fallout 4 does really well w those two methods of ssd use.
9:23 PS4 on stock... they are faster than Xbox One on stock. And picture shows 50:51 and 49:41 accordingly. then SSD looks like faster on PS4. But you say it became comparable. so why do you misinform DF? that's not the first time you're doing that on purpose.
Obviously any external harddirve, even a 5400 would be a bit faster because the stock drive is slow and already has stuff loading on it, like the OS and stuff, which will make the drive (even) slower
I think a ton of the delay and lag has to do with the server connection, for the drive should make a massive difference. However, when you see a decent SSD that can do 500 mb's per second versus a 40 - 60 mb per second physical drive? There should be much quicker access, which again, I think is server delay and access time and not the cpu or drive influenced.
What a great test, how can you test it like this? The maximum bandwith of usb 3.0 is around 45mb/s and that ssd is around 500mb/s so you are limiting the ssd to around 12th of the speed it can achieve.
Took me 9 seconds to load to Woeson Bridge on my PC with a 4 year old CPU from an SSD. It's so short that I need to disable story book videos because they take longer. I would hate to play these games on a console. ;_; (I do own a PS4 for the occasional console exclusive. Looking forward to Gravity Rush 2).
Ssd drive upgrade is the way to go, load time is ok but the real advantage of replacing the original HD to ssd is no heat which equals a longer lasting system, the only problem is that Microsoft made it a real pain in the ass to upgrade compared to PlayStation 4, I hope the next Xbox console Microsoft will make it easier for gamers to upgrade the hard drive without voiding the warranty and simple, you paying attention Microsoft?
I need some advice. What's a CHEAP and reliable 128GB SSD that works WELL with the PS4? I'm only going to use it with the PS4. I care more about performances than storage, but i don't want something the PS4 isn't going to fully use.
I've heard others claim that the 5400rpm external outperforms the internal due to its USB 3.0 interface and not being limited by the SATA2. I've also heard the advantages are theoretical. Would be cool to see various tests see if this is true, especially from such a trusted source. I use a Western Digital 2TB external myself and while I never timed if it's faster or not to load, it's definitely increased responsiveness of the dash and snap applications to have my games run off the external.
what im wondering...does hd drive generate less or more heat too? wonder if this help overall temps inside console? not just 2-5 mins...im talking like 60 mins worth 2 hrs worth
Screw external upgrades. I personally would just upgrade the internal drive. HDD don't last very long at all. SSD last longer, it's quiet, faster boot times. The dashboard would most likely be much smoother. Most everything will run smoother. Clone the HDD to SSD and reinstall and veryify everything works and call it a day. This is just what I would do. I originally built my PC with and HDD. Upgraded to an SSD and I'll never go back to HDD. I'm gonna upgrade my Xbox drive soon.
No offense, but this is like testing cars track times with an imposed speed limit. The only benefit SSD gives you is queue depth, that is if you USB enclosure doesn't just throw linear commands at it. Under the 60MBs xfer speeds most 3.0 boast this is still about 9 times slower than the xfer speeds of a proper ssd. Additionally, most console games employ linear reading to speed up load times or make them predictable, as most run from optical media or in a predictable order. That just makes all your tests have nearly the same response.
I personally use a SSHD in my PS4 and I'm very satisfied. If, someday, the PS4 offers Trim option, then I might consider putting a SSD in it. Will need to test first.
the SSHD you need to reload the game 2 times so it has the data in its 8GB SSD cache on the seagate (good for save reloading) whereas SSD its constant overall it be best if you could put the SSD inside the xbox if that is possible (not checked as dont own one (was just an interesting overview)
Texture loading it's the biggest difference between the three, and yes the SSD makes a huge difference. Texture loading "people", texture loading. Every second counts, REGARDLESS on which platform you play, happy gaming everyone.
Hybrid is best to go with the extra space. But if you play a lot of multiplayer it's not really worth getting an SSD. You'll just be waiting on everyone else
Would you be willing to consider doing something like this and the previous PS4 one for PC games? I'm honestly curious as to whether or not the price difference between, say, a 5900RPM drive and a 7200 of similar capacity is worthwhile with actual numbers to back it up, of which there are very, very few so far, with the SSD test showing what's essentially a best-case scenario.
Nice with SSD upgrade, you split the loading time in GTA 5 Online by 1 hour.
Actually that's 1 minute
@@kenneth8585 r/woooosh
lmao
Bottlenecking that usb 3.0 with the SSD.
Comparison to a non ssd external should have been included imo.
In 2023 upgrading your Xbox One with a 2TB SATA 3 SSD is a must It's not just about the loading speed It's actually about improving the frame rate stutter replacing the internal hard drive with a internal SSD not only improves the loading time it improves everything And it can also fix some Xbox games that run really bad under 30fps such as Just cause 3 which is the worst performing Xbox game ever made but in my experience I played Just cause 3 on my original Xbox One with a built-in SATA 3 SSD Now it runs extremely consistent at 30fps even when I was causing so much explosions I also tested a few Xbox games that run so bad like elden Ring Star Wars Jedi fallen order especially when you arrive on kashyyk I was shocked how stable the frame rate is including cyberpunk 2077 which also runs fully locked at 30fps So I am convinced that Microsoft and Sony should have included every Xbox One and PS4 with a built-in SATA 3 SSD unlike the internal hard drive really held back every console game from running at their best So if you're wondering yes I still play on my OG Xbox One and PS4 Slim both equipped with a built-in internal 2TB SATA 3 SSD and I'm telling you right now it's the best way to enjoy console games at their best performance and say goodbye to no more framerate stutter
One thing it will never fix is Borderlands 3.
Is it bring your kid to work day over at DigitalFoundry?
LOOOOL
savage. haha
+EnOrangeSoffa I just laughed the hardest I have in a while :'D
+EnOrangeSoffa shut up mate
Haha oh man
What people forget to factor in is the fact if you game a lot. 10 seconds here and there 1 minute here etc adds up over time.
Also install time increases significantly. Save time etc.
I put an ssd in my ps3 i played tales of xillia for 80 hours. I saw the loading screen... Once for about 1 second maybe just under.
Also if you have to move in and out of areas that require loading its troublesome and time consuming
Now that the Xbox One S which has SATA3 has been released, could you talk about it too? Make a test video maybe? Thanks.
The ssd and sshd are both bottle necked by the usb enclosure to do a real test you would need to remove the stock and replace with each drive
***** no it can not since it doesnt have usb 3.0 sorry try again
***** sata 2 is still faster than usb at least it can reach 400mb/s where usb can't so i dont need to try you just need to learn
***** hence the bottle neck but sata 2 does have better over all speeds than a usb port so you would save 10 seconds more
The SSD is not bottled necked because the USB 3.0 interface can handle 5gbps which the SSD will never reach and yes SATA 2 is faster but it does not matter because the SSD is not gonna reach that speed.
and xbox does have USB 3.0
A real test would be if you installed the ssd inside the Xbox because USB is slower than SATA Ii
+Steve 30x xbox one uses usb 3.0,so the performance between the two is negligible.
would love to see this as well!
Dave looks like he's from Dark Souls.
+StoreBrand | Bernie2016 More like one of the surviving prisoner of the Alien 3 movie.
He's hollow!
StoreBrand dark souls, light skins. lmao
Ahahaha
I thought dave was black.
And how do we know that your enclosure is not limiting factor between SSD and SSHD? Why wouldn't you test something like Samsung T SSD drives which are actually USB3.0 SSD drives? How was SSHD tested? Single game on it on fresh drive loaded multiple times or actual real world performance where there are multiple games thatare on it and each loaded recently? These are major factors that you are excluding mentioning/testing.
Would love to see you guys revisit this... One S and One X, internal drives vs external 5400 vs external SSHD vs External SSD. The reports around the Internet are very conflicting if the internal drive in the one X is faster.
Is there any UI changes? Does things load quicker like keyboard, messages etc?
Why are the load times in The Witcher 3 so long on console? I'm only using a 7200RPM HDD for The Witcher 3, yet spawning back into an area takes 15 seconds max. Fast traveling take about 5-10 seconds.
Yeah I'm telling you it's shit
Its because of your CPU, console likely has much slower one
Get a fuckin ssd
Isnt the ssd held back by the max speed of the usb connection/
+Dmitry Shubkin No it isnt usb3 can more then handle max transfer of sata2. Sata2 is the limiter on both ps4 and xboxone as that cant handle the full speed of an ssd
Nope, it's USB 3.0 which has a Max rate of around 5gbps (640MBps)
Yep. Still faster then 5400RPM
Don't let yourselves be fooled by theoretical numbers. The real usable data transfer rate of USB 3.0 (or USB 3.1 Gen 1 as it is called now) is considered to be at about 300 MB/s, because it is a rather inefficient protocol. This also depends heavily on the device-side controller and the host-side controller. So if you have a fast SSD this can potentially be a limiting factor.
On the other hand, data transfer rate of SATA II is also at about 300 MB/s.
In conclusion: When given the choice, using SATA II over USB 3.0 might still be better because of lower latency, which is one of the main advantages of using an SSD over a traditional HDD.
@@anchises666 - USB 3.0 is not limited to 300 MB/s...
Adding an external drive is not upgrading the disk. HOLY FUCK, change the INTERNAL disk!
Dang. I wish i would have seen this video before buying a samsung 850 ssd last year. A sshd looks promising with lots more storage space for the price.
Eric Ernst you can install a ssd in Xbox one
You guys should do a SSHD , SSD & HDD test on Fallout 4 for PC . That game's engine is cancer to my HDD . Loading times varies from 0:50 ~ 1:30 outdoors and 30~40secs indoors ...
Better question: Should you upgrade your XBOX One to a PC?
+nielskut Answer: YES.
+nielskut no the best question is: should you upgrade your one to a ps4? yes yes and yes
Ati1m No, PC > literally shit > PS4 > Xboner.
all consoles> shit> pc> steam
+haloShAdOwSnIpE PC>Consoles>WiiU>Mobile>
Cards>Vita
Evidently the sun doesn't exist in the U.K.
Of course you can do that with a 2TB solid state drive. I keep my Xbox One forever until that internal hard drive needs a replacement I have no idea when.
After being subjected to TES:V on PS3, I knew I would avoid the next gen of consoles. I'm so glad I built a PC.
The drive speed has a massive relationship between the bus speed and cpu itself, for if this was simply limited to drive speed, the SSD should have simply walked over that slow little 5400rpm by many times.
Is their a bandwidth limit for the usb interfaces versus a direct sata on something like a pc?
get him some xboxes to stand on
Still cracks me up.
Think the test would of been better if there was a 7200rpm drive in there. As well just to give the full picture of performance for all the possible upgrade roots.
Doesn't using a USB connection theoretically limit how fast the drives can actually transfer data between the console and itself?
You guys should do a stock Xbox One vs Market Hybrid SSHD vs Xbox One Elite comparison.
The elite is the same as the stock console except uses a 7200RPM drive.
these pc fanatics are really starting to flood the comments
+Manciu Dorin Peasant :D
+BowGunner it's those of you who ruin the PCMR, you make us sound like 4 yeah olds.
+BowGunner Little kid :D
Execution Hey, when someone leaves a stupid comment, I'm going to leave a stupid reply. Simple as that.
BowGunner no life :D
How can you call an average 30% faster loading times 'not a big change'? I will add a spare SSD as soon as possible.
I wish I had made this for Final Fantasy XV... out of my 100 hours 20 must have been loading...sigh...
Just like in the PS4, it's not the interface that's holding back the SSD's, it's the low performance tablet CPU, the only noticable gains are in large open-world games.
Don't the consoles use a SATA II interface?
There´s a big problem in this test. Everyone knows that the Internal Stock Xbox One Hard Drive is pluged internally in a SATA 2 port. The USB 3.0 is faster than the internal SATA 2 port (5 Gb/s for USB 3 x 3Gb/s for SATA 2). So, even if you plugged a normal HDD in the USB 3 port, the game will load faster than the internal HDD. So, the results that you got on the SSHD are irrelevant, cause you should have compare it against a normal HDD.
+Joao Melo There´s another point....To get very similiar loading times in the SSD and the SSHD, i think that you run the game more than one time to get the results. It´s clear that when you run the game more than one time in the SSHD, the NAND FLASH SSD MEMORY acts like a cache. So, when you start the game for the first time, it will run from the normal mecanic disk. If you close the game and put it to run again, it will run from the NAND FLASH, so the loading times results are very similar from the SSD and the SSHD.
I realize I'm replying to a comment over 2 years after it was made, but hopefully this will clear it up for others. You may have also learned this in the time it took me to see this comment. While you are correct about the speed of sata 2 vs the theoretical speed of USB 3.0, HDDs can't even fully utilize sata 2 speeds, especially a 5400rpm drive (7200 average 183 MB/s, 5400 163 MB/s). I've never tested the speed of a usb based HDD at 3.0 speeds, but I'm fairly certain it wouldn't make much of a difference, which may have been a reason they didn't bother testing one.
I have no idea what anybody is talking about here because I don’t use modifications and shit but all I wanted was a faster loading time on fallout :(
@@golly276 Well, like the video states, best bang for your buck is still an SSHD, but an SSD is the fastest drive you can get, at least through a SATA or USB 3.0 connection.
How would that compare to with the SSD as an internal instead of an external?
The internal drive on an Xbox One cannot be upgraded/replaced.
Use a external SSD with Destiny 2. It's a massive improvement.
Yes, especially if we are talking about the Crisol.
Hi Dave! Never seen you in person
I would personally just get the 750gb Western Digital Scorpio Black hard drive or Hitatchi 1TB 7200 rpm hard drive. Most cost effective for the console users.
but how will it connect to the xbox via usb
@@legionDC - With an external USB 3.0 enclosure. The same sort of thing used in this video, but it would require its own external power source.
Do keep in mind an external SSD using USB 3.0 will slow down over time as trim is not available and will also give you slower read speeds without native command queuing available etc.
Is there no way to rip out the slow original harddrive of the xbox one ?
It is absolutely possible. However, from what I've seen, you can't increase the capacity. Or rather, you can't change the size of the user content partition. The info I've seen could very well be wrong regarding the partition, however.
There are SSDs released specifically designed for Xbox One and they have TRIM available and enabled.
@@icy1007 what does that mean
Bought an external SSD for my Wii U and it does the job better than my older external HDD. Some games like Splinter Cell Blacklist didn't get any different, but for most games like AC 3 and 4 and Zelda, it did make a difference.
Inb4 nvidia SSD vs amd SSD
....
+Emiliano Tozzi LMAO
I was making some satire regarding the ps4 vs PC video.
If they actually compared them (if nVidia made SSDs), the AMD SSD would destroy the nVidia SSD and they would say that the AMD SSD is 'just beating it by a bit' because they're retarded biased nVidia fanboys.
+Ameer Mahmood You do know that there are already a lot of ssd manufacturers. It is highly unlikely that nvidia or amd would even put up their brand names in ssd products.
+conyo985 amd already make ssds.
Why didn't you include a non ssd external?
You don't even need a hybrid drive. I got a Seagate 7200 RPM 3,5" drive and it's more than 25% faster than the Stock one.
So how is the sshd able to be stay so close to the ssd? If the data is all new it can't be cached. For example going from one game to another.
I can do this with a spare Xbox One using a 1TB SSD as that option just as if I did that on my PS3.
I just hate the fact that the externall hdd stays on when plugged into the XB1 even after its completely off
never had problems with that, auto-cut-off if the HDD is not used. no problem.
It doesn't stay on when the Xbox is off. There is a setting that controls that.
You really use a 7200rpm drive instead of the hybrid.
The trion 150 series from OCZ is the updated version of their budget drives and it's both faster and cheaper. You might want to look to see if you can find a 150 for less than a same capacity 100, it might be a better deal.
I think your test is not considering the difference in BUS speed. The internal SATA and the USB in this case, are in par? You may lose a lot with an external USB, even if the drive itself is faster. Has Xbox One USB 3.0?
Question: When I’m playing Kingdom Come: Deliverance lot of the times the area needs to load up the graphics and NPC because my horse moves fast. Does upgrading to an SSD help load areas faster?
It can.
Using an SSD should increase load times and reduce the amount of things that "pop" when loading areas of a game.
So the only upgrade is to load times not to textures loading in game??
"xbox one SSD not easily accessible"
its like, 15 screws
how you copy content to new ssd
were these tests using external drives or internal drives?
I thought it was better to plus it into the side port. If that’s true, this video is invalid. I should also mention that you should move the games you want to play into the ssd for optimal results. Fallout 4 does really well w those two methods of ssd use.
Dead link on your Eurogamer article link.
So do the load times vary if the games are downloaded and not working off of the disc
I was looking into this but after seeing this I don't think shaving off seconds is worth upgrading.
9:23
PS4 on stock... they are faster than Xbox One on stock.
And picture shows 50:51 and 49:41 accordingly.
then SSD looks like faster on PS4. But you say it became comparable.
so why do you misinform DF? that's not the first time you're doing that on purpose.
+Dro It falls within the margin of error, if you ran the test again, it be might the other way around.
Microsoft should install SSD or at least a hybrid in their next console.
Remember, those seconds add up.
Yes the Xbox Series X will have an SSD
Obviously any external harddirve, even a 5400 would be a bit faster because the stock drive is slow and already has stuff loading on it, like the OS and stuff, which will make the drive (even) slower
How about the Fusion Drive XB1 SKU?
I think a ton of the delay and lag has to do with the server connection, for the drive should make a massive difference. However, when you see a decent SSD that can do 500 mb's per second versus a 40 - 60 mb per second physical drive? There should be much quicker access, which again, I think is server delay and access time and not the cpu or drive influenced.
I'd get a hybrid. Double the capacity and close to the same performance for the same price.
What a great test, how can you test it like this? The maximum bandwith of usb 3.0 is around 45mb/s and that ssd is around 500mb/s so you are limiting the ssd to around 12th of the speed it can achieve.
Mr.Funky Right
USB 3.0 bottle necks after 640MBps, plenty capable I'd say.
USB 3.0 bandwidth is 5 Gb/s... which is 625 MB/s. Plenty of bandwidth.
So is there a way to mitigate the USB 3.0 loading by trimming, some other functionality?
6 seconds isn't much unless you play a lot. It could mean 2 or 3 hours a year?
i mean, i personally would say some of these gains are insanely huge from stock to ssd. if you shave 5 seconds off of 20 seconds....thats BIG!!!
isn't the use connection gonna be a bit slow?
you know the system is shit when a ssd can barely make it load faster
Is this a re post? I remember this video.
That was a ps4 video
+Emiliano Tozzi you've lost it loo
+Jay Robert bitch
I have an hybrid I fell it was a very nice upgrade and really needed
Why don't they use a proper SSHD with 7200rpm?
Yean, but hybrids get faster the more times you run the same game or program.
Took me 9 seconds to load to Woeson Bridge on my PC with a 4 year old CPU from an SSD. It's so short that I need to disable story book videos because they take longer. I would hate to play these games on a console. ;_; (I do own a PS4 for the occasional console exclusive. Looking forward to Gravity Rush 2).
The X1 has a 5400rpm stock drive? What year is this 2005?
Ssd drive upgrade is the way to go, load time is ok but the real advantage of replacing the original HD to ssd is no heat which equals a longer lasting system, the only problem is that Microsoft made it a real pain in the ass to upgrade compared to PlayStation 4, I hope the next Xbox console Microsoft will make it easier for gamers to upgrade the hard drive without voiding the warranty and simple, you paying attention Microsoft?
Using A hard drive encloser, is in faster, than just buying a 3.0 USB external hard drive?
Great info, thanks for the test!
I need some advice. What's a CHEAP and reliable 128GB SSD that works WELL with the PS4? I'm only going to use it with the PS4. I care more about performances than storage, but i don't want something the PS4 isn't going to fully use.
+jippalippa Anything by Samsung or Crucial. That being said, you should get a 250GB SSD at a minimum for the ps4. 128 will fill up with 1 game.
Samuel Nehls Don't worry, i only play exclusives on my PS4 and one at a time (i uninstall each game after completing it)
Does a solid state hard drive help with lag and frames? Or just load screens ?
would have been interesting to see how a USB 3.0 5400rpm external HDD like a Western Digital would have performed next to the SSD and hybrid
similar to the stock HDD in XB1
I've heard others claim that the 5400rpm external outperforms the internal due to its USB 3.0 interface and not being limited by the SATA2. I've also heard the advantages are theoretical. Would be cool to see various tests see if this is true, especially from such a trusted source. I use a Western Digital 2TB external myself and while I never timed if it's faster or not to load, it's definitely increased responsiveness of the dash and snap applications to have my games run off the external.
+DamnYouSalazar shut up
So you may as well get a hybrid drive
What about fallout4?
what im wondering...does hd drive generate less or more heat too? wonder if this help overall temps inside console? not just 2-5 mins...im talking like 60 mins worth 2 hrs worth
Screw external upgrades. I personally would just upgrade the internal drive. HDD don't last very long at all. SSD last longer, it's quiet, faster boot times. The dashboard would most likely be much smoother. Most everything will run smoother. Clone the HDD to SSD and reinstall and veryify everything works and call it a day. This is just what I would do. I originally built my PC with and HDD. Upgraded to an SSD and I'll never go back to HDD. I'm gonna upgrade my Xbox drive soon.
You can't upgrade the internal drive on an Xbox One.
@@icy1007 yes you can but you void your warranty in the process. Did mine a couple of weeks ago from 500gb to 1tb
No offense, but this is like testing cars track times with an imposed speed limit. The only benefit SSD gives you is queue depth, that is if you USB enclosure doesn't just throw linear commands at it. Under the 60MBs xfer speeds most 3.0 boast this is still about 9 times slower than the xfer speeds of a proper ssd. Additionally, most console games employ linear reading to speed up load times or make them predictable, as most run from optical media or in a predictable order. That just makes all your tests have nearly the same response.
If you install the games on an external but have an ssd interally will it make a difference?
No 7200rpm comparison?
a 2TO SSHD is the best choice for PS4 and for XBone
True, I'm getting one.
I personally use a SSHD in my PS4 and I'm very satisfied. If, someday, the PS4 offers Trim option, then I might consider putting a SSD in it. Will need to test first.
the SSHD you need to reload the game 2 times so it has the data in its 8GB SSD cache on the seagate (good for save reloading) whereas SSD its constant overall it be best if you could put the SSD inside the xbox if that is possible (not checked as dont own one (was just an interesting overview)
Texture loading it's the biggest difference between the three, and yes the SSD makes a huge difference. Texture loading "people", texture loading. Every second counts, REGARDLESS on which platform you play, happy gaming everyone.
We already know that it saves you loading times, but how about a more steady FPS? Does it dip less in some games known for getting FPS dips?
No, hard drives USUALLY won't gain any fps but there are some exceptions.
blarg69man lmao the penis thing is true, don't know about the others but I will gladly test it out
+blarg69man Ahh my apologizes, i thought you meant on pc
did you connected to ssd via usb ?
Take a shot whenever you hear "and"
Is there an advantage of the ST1000LM014 over getting slightly chaper ST1000DX001?
Why not tell them how to install it internally. I've done it. You'll need to reformat it ubuntu
Do i see a Sony Xperia Play box behind you? Great phone
Hybrid is best to go with the extra space. But if you play a lot of multiplayer it's not really worth getting an SSD. You'll just be waiting on everyone else
Would you be willing to consider doing something like this and the previous PS4 one for PC games? I'm honestly curious as to whether or not the price difference between, say, a 5900RPM drive and a 7200 of similar capacity is worthwhile with actual numbers to back it up, of which there are very, very few so far, with the SSD test showing what's essentially a best-case scenario.