the problem with that statement is that they do the r&d themselves it's not like they bought a Spot and just made a knockoff, they engineered these on their own sure they look the same, but that's because the thing they're basing them on is the same
Aech Dee not even comparable, BD probably spent hundreds of millions more than this relatively unknown Chinese company. Obviously it’s not like anyone can just buy one and copy it, they will need an efficient team and structure, but if you look them up, it all points to just basic intelectual property being stolen/copied at a simpler level
Sloth Armstrong yeah , clearly has been working for chinese companies, since most big tech companies have factories there too they also have ease of production when copying stuff. It doesn’t usually lead to long lasting and stable market, but the cheaper alternatives do have a huge demand to fulfill
Aech Dee lmao what are you talking about? it’s china....of course they just took spot and reversed engineered it 😂 just like everything else in china it’s a stolen design
It actually needs skills and technology to do a good reverse engineering and clone. Japan did that, US did that by adopting German tech after WW2... So the cycle of life Iguess
The Philadelphia company too will be on point to help with also making those copies. So it's closer to home cuz by then, China and US would have banned each other to oblivion 🤣
@@pitot1988 they dont reverse engineer they copy everything and make some adjustment. They look the same they cant change its look because of how the program works they just dont look the same but move the same too
Ever had of something called patents.. Unitree is far more manuvarable the don't have the same gates.. Boston is just another hyped up company with the luxury of being American
This video seems to blindly assume that Boston Dynamics/Softbank intend to sell their robots as toys to consumers. Boston Dynamics simply aren't targeting consumers. They probably don't mind that companies like Unitree Robotics are ripping off their hardware to sell to consumers. The majority of Boston Dynamics' IP is software anyway, which I'm sure is carefully guarded. The Unitree robot may look similar to Spot at first glance, but you can be assured that Spot has many more features and is a much more polished platform. The $75,000 price ticket does not reflect manufacturing costs, it is recouping R&D costs. As a toy, a robot dog really isn't that useful or entertaining, and will see limited sales with a price that is puts it out of reach of most consumers. Boston Dynamics knows this, which is why they're targeting military/industrial applications.
@@gameintheglitch1860 The red-pilled can believe whatever conspiracy they want; it doesn't change the facts out here in the real world. In the end, it doesn't matter how the Chinese got ahead of us. I have read that their coders are every bit as good as ours, others say they must have stolen their knowledge because American brains are exceptional against all evidence to the contrary. Shrug. The only thing that matters is that they have it and know what to do with it.
@@rusmiller816 I said nothing about Chinese engineers. It's obvious that the A1 is a blatant ripoff of Spot. A reasonable quality ripoff by the looks of it, but a ripoff nonetheless. Regarding the featureset/completeness of each product, all you have to do is visit each company's respective website and read the documentation. Spot is an industrial product with extensive documentation, the A1 doesn't even have a user manual. A cool toy, but Unitree has a long way to go before they can be considered a serious player in the robotics research space.
Yes you wouldn’t want a COE who built or resurrected multiple multiple billion dollars corporations. Yes continue to loose money until your patrons cut you off and you go bankrupt.
Wow, a Chinese company which has a direct copy of Boston Dynamics robot which took many years of R&D in only a couple years? Wonder how they did that?! 😂
Talking about quality is a subjective point. If 90% of the world population only can afford cheaper technology then that's how business works. As a businessman, I will chase 90% of buying capability than 10%. Not everyone can buy expensive thing while we can get it at a lower price without compromising the quality too much. For example, if I could buy 10 dollar product which is durability can be up to 1 year why should I buy 100 dollar product for 3 years durability. Don't forget that tech evolving and improving very fast if I spend 100 dollars for 1 product after a year, the technology I have might be not that relevant as what as I got a year before. So should I missed out the new revolution of enhanced product for another year or spending another 100 dollars for the new one. The smartphone is a classic example.
Once an innovator shows what is possible, others follow more quickly. Just like breaking the 5 minute mile. (Edit: 4 minute mile in 1954, surpassed only 46 days later.)
@@m0nk3yman53 yes, a moral obligation towards fair business practices will surely stop companies from partaking in immoral acts that could get them a greater level of profit and influence.
actually bateries had allmost reached their max in energy density allready...maybee they could get 15%(if that!) more for the same volume , but thats it...
I'm currently working with both (Spot and Unitree A1) and only can say if you spend literally for every part a 7th less as Boston Dynamics sure you'll get an affordable Robot but you'll get what you pay for and as an enginner myself the Unitree feels like a toy and Spot like an industrial solution and an industrial solution will and should never be the cheapest consumer product. It should be made for the task and therefore should be well engineered. Can't say that for the A1.
@@drained1177 so far they have a market and are making big money selling these expensively. While companies will buy them no point making it cheaper to appeal to the more common public
pretty sure BD's main target are contracts. And not necessarily the SPOT model, but their programming. Sure they can sell many SPOT's at $75,000 each, but the real money is either in mass market where they can sell metric more than what SPOT is selling at a massive volume or government/corperate contracts that go into tens or hundreds of millions.
the technology is basically out there for anyone to use the tricky part comes with the programming and visual recognition mostly, not so much getting the servos and step motors to work
Kind of reminds me of WiFi in Australia, we invented it and yet everyone else in the world has surpassed us and improved on it. Kind of embarrassing when you think about it
Uh no a hollywood actress made wifi that only thing that australian scientist did was transform it and make it better plus this isnt the same since the u.s is the tech hub
Why is there a need to monopolize anything you invent? All of science and computing is the collective effort of thousands of amazingly clever people. Its laying the first stone so others can build a pyramid. I dont think Friedman and the physicists of the 20th century expanding on the theory of relativity mean Einstein dropped the ball, even if Friedman proved Einstein wrong about a static universe. Claiming sole ownership of something only matters if you want to patent it and make money, its useless in terms of pushing humanity forwards. Inventing something that inspires others to work on it is not embarrassing.
Would need a massive engineering effort to keep the regolith from destroying it's components. Every flake of it is like a shard of glass. Astronaut's suits were ruined by it.
@@Scott_C Why not have wheels on legs that can adjust its height with most of the construction equipment on a robotic arm on the back. The hopping motion of the dog will kick up more moon dust than a slow moving rover. For the wheels can be directly driven with a motor inside the hub.If the weight is too heavy for the motor-in-wheel design, then a motor in the arm connected to a drive shaft directly that goes down to a small differential that can slide up and down and act in harmony with a suspension made of some springy composite material can work too, and possibly the latter design would be easier to make than the prior if you include seals at each component that moves against each other and what separates the components from the inside to the outside world just like many car components .
@@31bank wheeled robot would make sense. However, take a minute to go research the wheels used on the Moon Buggy NASA made for the Apollo Missions. That may help you understand what you're suggesting.
They'd only last mechanically a few days. They likely wouldn't work on the lunar surface at all due to cosmic particle bombardment. Space hardware needs to be rad hardened.
I just wonder when they'll release the first leged wheel chair. Remembering my late friend Lennart who was bound to a wheelchair that would have been such an incredible upgrade!
Chinese companies are relentless in cut throat competition, they will bring down the cost of a 4 legged robot to that of an iphone, not the 75k of Boston Dynamics.
For the good of mankind, imagine buying one of these to help your grandparents haul their weekly groceries for them because this relentlessness of chinese competiton
@@youngz13o What village do you live in ? , they just have Uber drop it off on the front porch out in the sticks ? A drone will do it , having the dog carry it ? Not that feasible
@@youngz13o for the good of mankind ? You do realize that one of the reasons why Chinese products are cheap is because of Chinese labor. So witch mankind are you talking about. Because it's definitely not these working in the factory.
Have you any idea how overpriced an iphone is?I live in india...For the price of a brand new iphone i could buy a New 100-200cc motocycle.Its ridiculous.Let me give you another example..Hv you heard of the interceptor from re?its probably the cheapest 650cc bike in the states..but in india it costs half of that😂😂😂
Toms River sorry but you are part of the crowd that lives in a bubble. Do you know who are the 800 million people that were lifted out of poverty? It was the people that worked in the factories
To make a robot that can walk is easy if compared to a robot that can give you hugs and comfort. Its not like anyone wants to fuck a hung of metal, what we all seek is deeper and way more complex interaction. So i have my doubt about sex robots, and if we ever make a robot cable of feeling human enough to imitate love. we gonna run into the AI problem of the singularity. In fact I feel pretty secure in saying its stupid dream that'll never come true, because sex is more than putting stuff in holes. An here is why: Without a truly human feeling brain, its gonna be be huge turn off for most sane people, and with a human feeling brain you no longer have a robot but a human. Because we only want the perfect human, we all know how to spot a fake human, it's in our instincts. so anything less will hit right in the uncanny valley and be a huge turnoff. I do not see how you gonna make a perfect copy of human, that somehow is not a human. All that said, people are probably in the end fine with paying high cash for fake sex, it will mostly only be for men as the robots won't be much more than a glorified sexy toy.
You can't tell just from the looks. BD could use for copyright or design patents if people could confuse the two products, but no telling what is copied and what just basically works because form follows function.
Its the feeling you get when you go on Alibaba and see your design copied , And its only half price , China passes the "slavings" on to you ! I ended up just "Leaking" the designs I knew would fail , Looked good on paper , prototype showed numerous core problems Let them waste there time and resources
As I understand it, 3D printing can help reduce costs in prototyping and small-batch production, but at this point, traditional tooling is still more efficient for mass production.
Jumped on the back of the prototype honda D18 and escaped human capture to start the robotic rebellion from a inhospitable wasteland near fukushima power plant.
Robotics that imitate basic human structure/movements/coexistence don't seem as commercially viable as something more specialized, like a rescue bot or something.
@@gluttonousmaximus9048 is commercially viable unless is too expensive. Most basic jobs for humans require basics set of motions. And the think is basic human motions, like leg movements, are far more flexible then whelled motion. And besides huge costs, far bigger then todays robots, ASIMO had problems performing basic motions and was very slow for most of them. You are making a dumb comparisson.
In reality the simile is between Microsoft, and just about every other software company of the eighties. While everybody else was doing technology, Gates was was doing business.
"I don't know who would have a use for Parkour robots" Disney would be interested for Disney world attractions where dangerous stunts are done by people. They're ready developing them
Boston Dynamics price is not coming from the manufacturing but the chinese copies probably are. Also BD doesn't need consumer markets to make their business profitable.
To be fair, you don’t discuss the technical differences between the two. Whilst the Chinese knock off might appear similar to BD’s Spot, I’m pretty sure Spot is in a completely different league in regard to technical ability and real word applications. One is a toy, the other a scientific instrument.
Churble Furbles so what’s your point? Spot does have learning abilities, it can map the area it walks, and adapt. As well as having many ways to expand its sensors and functionality. It’s primarily designed to function in industry, not an expensive toy. Not forgetting ALL devices require a level of programming since true AI isn’t here. It’s a matter of selecting the tool that fits the purpose.
Didnt he mention that Boston Dynamics are still big step ahead technologically, his argument is that without a business model it is unlikely to stay that way for long.
Basically. Who cares if the Chinese or other parties steal the tech, they won't innovate on it because thats not what they care about. They just want to profit off it as long as possible until it becomes outdated and they have to buy another to steal a new design. Well that and generating tons of e waste with products that go straight from the production line to the landfill.
@@HR-yd5ib yeah that'll happen when you have a billion people with the potential to file them. Look I'm not saying the Chinese are bereft of creativity or other such racist nonsense, but to pretend they don't steal designs and ignore patants and copyright law is pretty foolish.
I wish I could go back in time to 1984, go to a Terminator premiere, pick a few people after the show, get them in a room and show them this YT video. The reactions I'd get would be priceless.
It’s similar to drone photography/ surveying, only it’s in it’s own specialised role. If your doing maintenance jobs in buildings, vents or tunnels, these small drones are perfect for the task of fitting into small or hazardous spaces. From a business standpoint if this makes a $60,000p.a worker 20% more efficient, you will have already turned a profit on the investment within the first year.
I love Boston Dynamics passions to give their best on their robots instead of cutting off price for certain parts just to make their robot relevant than the others. Other companies make cheaper robots but people will look up to Boston Dynamics as the best in the robotics business
Boston Dynamics needs to make the programming and distribution of apps for their robots as easily as possible, that way they can become the PC of consumer robotics.
I like the analog but I do not think that is Boston dynamics Job. With PCs users Flunder usecases themselves Spot. Many users became experts and published Software, way more than a Single manufacturer alone ever could... Given enough time and granted that the spot Plattform is open for this I see a lot of Potential in these things. But remember the days when only 400 PCs have been Sold... there is still along way to go, such communitys usually Take time to grow. Spot is a really gute step though, as atlas will be and I guess one that will o ly really be understood in a faraway, future, what a great time to live in and watched this development
I agree with you imagine if BD had a Musk type person leading the company what a difference. Marc Raibert stated that the use cases for their bots are Emergency Response, Parcel Delivery, Security, Entertainment, Warehouse Iogiistics, Elderly & Disabled Care. I hope BD takes your advice also I want to see a competition human vs bots in Olympic type sports. Seems they need to power a bot for at least 8 hours of use and build up from their, the battery tech is not their yet!
It wouldn't surprise me if they stole the designs from Boston Dynamic shortly before that company was started. Then modified it just enough to not infringed on patents.
"I'll believe i t when I see it" as the saying goes. Intent to produce something at an affordable price is in no way related to actually achieving that goal. That chinese robot already looks like it's using the exact same movement software as Boston Dynamics, so I wouldn't put it past Chinese sticking to their regular theft of intellectual property.
Very interesting comparison, seems that black robots from Unitree has more features than the robots from Boston Dynamics, it can totally flat, then rotating back to walking position. Also seems it has less bulk size. If it can carry 5kg, this is really something to end-user market. The price is definitely something will determine the winner of the market.
When do we get the first domestic house robot who can do the diches, dusting, vacuum cleaning, cleaning the toilet and bathroom, washing, ironing, cooking and gardening?
@@missyxixi there are no other companies, this is literally the iron man meme where Ton Stark shows how behind all the other countries are, they literally stole the idea and built a toy that wont do what it was made for
Very good points. The China company however is most likely copying / stealing. It's easier to drop the price when you have not invested in a large and pioneering RnD project.
We need pressure on innovation not price. Price pressure means R&D becomes too expensive and innovators cannot enter the market, so you end up with a race-to-the-bottom with everyone selling the same cost-cut-to-the-bone design.
It really depend on what customer the company is targeting on. Anyway, Boston Dynamic is my tea as it means creativity. Someone already said that to make something cheaper is much more easy than create something new, and it's true. To keep the creation we need to "keep" the creators
What makes you think the 74k $ retail price are their production cost for a spot robot? Do you really mean production cost as in materials and assembly costs? I am convinced the price is chosen to agree with what buyers are prepared to pay and is supposed to cover some of the huge R&D costs over the anticipated number of sales...
I'm not a great steve jobs fan, but credit where it's due, he was fantastic at marketing, presentation and business strategy (why else would people buy mac books? Their specs are sub par at their price point), Linus had a completely different ethos, it's proprietary vs open source, two different goals.
@@longleaf0doesnt change what he contributed, which is in reality not too much. Sure he was able to market his company's products well but other than the early innovations in Personal Computers and the iPhone both of which were created mostly by others with him focusing on marketability he didnt do much himself. He is well known due to being the face of the company for so long. He also set the standard within apple of playing it safe over adopting innovations. It's one reason why Wozniak left, Jobs wanted to mass produce and sell a product while Wozniak wanted to explore what could be possible with personal computers. The first apple computer designed by Wozniak had a large role in bringing bringing programmable computers into peoples homes. Without that innovation Jobs could've just as well have been marketing pocket calculators made with smooth aluminum like today's macbooks. He might've done a good job at it but it would just be marketing. Surely there has to be a balance between innovation and consistent reliable products but apple has always had a problem with innovation with a few major exceptions like the apple 2 and iphone but otherwise only gradual improvements and late adoption of new technologies. The locking down of what many people now refer to as the apple ecosystem is also anti consumer in my honest opinion and it was present to a degree long before modern apple. It was all an effort to make sales as high as possible for all their products. It made them money and possibly jump started personal computer usage but not much else. I am just grateful we have open source operating systems and alternatives to apple hardware because if they truly monopolized the smartphone market as Jobs intended by suing android os competition and the computer hardware market we'd probably be pretty far back relative to where we are today. Personally to me he was an aggressive businessman that did help create some huge markets but was anti consumer and anti competitor in a bad way. Instead of beating the competition several times apple opted to try to shut it down and I am happy they failed. I value freedom of all types including freedom to use your hardware however you like since it is your property and not a subscription service.
It seams to me that BD aggregates money for development. I think this is fine, I'm also a developer and happy when I just can build my ideas. Maybe a concept like ARM would work, deliver the concept /software for a license. Forcing a developer to aim for money will kill their joy on developing stuff (happened to me).
You wouldn't be able to move fast enough to aim and shoot one if it's a military version, which it would see you first before you even new it was their, Skynet is coming .
Do you think Hyundai after buying them will change that and make them have a vision? (Like affordable robots to be as abundant as quad drones) I feel like big companies can still take advantage of more advanced robots like an automated ultraviolet light path clearing robot in virus infested areas or hospitals.
Boston Dynamics owned by Softbank. Softbank has Share in Tesla. Softbank owned Oneweb ( now bankrupt) Oneweb is similar service like Starlink of SpaceX , bt forced to shutdown.
@@hasnat9545 Also, Boston Dynamics was owned by Google until they decided not to get into the military grip trifactor in 2016. It was then for sale quite some time and as far as I know, Elon Musk gave it a pass.
BD doesn't have military contracts anymore, not since they were under Google. They screen buyers for Spot and have said they can and will brick the robots of any that try weaponizing it. Now Ghost Robotics on the other hand, they seem to be going headfirst into that field.
I work for nuclear industry, and Chinas stuff is last thing you want. I used to work for a company that designed and manufactured bespoke ROVs that would cost well more than $74k. Still, specification of environment, requires best possible equipment. It may cost less to purchase a Chinese knock off but it can cost more in time to resolve any issues, problems, instabilities, and projects not delivered on time. So I would not worry about BD as long as they deliver reliable equipment.
Spot on analysis and I've been thinking the same thing about BD. I wish Musk would buy it. But couple of things to point out here. Unitree is a Chinese company and sadly it shocks no one that their product appears to be an exact duplicate of BD's robot dog nor are they shocked at Unitree's price tag. Let's not pretend that China isn't controlled by an organization that operates like a cross between the mafia and the Nazis with factories running on slave-like labor. How does any company anywhere in the world compete with slave labor except with trade protections? We don't know for sure that BD's motor-sensory algorithms, for example, were simply "acquired" and handed over to Unitree's founder by the Chinese military, but it's perfectly reasonable to think it's possible and given the constant news about Chinese state hacking and industrial espionage occurring on university campuses it's quite probable. Nevertheless, BD is likely to get it's clock cleaned by cheap copy-cats because quite frankly the market wants and needs cheap copy cats if you can't supply the high quality version at the right price point. Unitree will have it's own problems gaining traction, however. They will probably run into QC issues that put a drag on sales and will have to laboriously climb their way up the ladder to reach the magical quality-price ratio that the market needs. That's a lot of heavy lifting for a start up that doesn't have a lot of it's own R&D to lean on. If BD wants to be around in 5 years, they need to 1) call Elon Musk or Michael Dell and 2) admit that their tech is leaching out and reach out to U.S. trade representatives to even the playing field against unfair trade practices if that is in fact going on. UPDATE: Did not realize that Hyundai has already purchased control of BD. All I can say is...Thank the lord. Smartest move BD ever made (or Japan's Softbank ever made, whoever sold it) selling out to a company with a massive distribution pipeline to both consumer and commercial markets.
a parkour rbot isnt made for parkour. its to test a robots agility, its balance, its battery life, power usage. so many things go into moving a robot. so yes they made a parkour robot but you have no idea how much of a leap that is if you see it as just a "parkour robot"
BigDog was the robot developed with DARPA funding Google acquired Boston Dynamics in 2013 and sold it to SoftBank in 2017. SoftBank, the owner of Boston Dynamics at the time of this video, is a Japanese company. Hyundai, the major owner of Boston Dynamics at the time of this posting, is a Korean company.
@@tjpprojects7192 lol "steal". You still believe in that stereotype. China is peer competitor in AI and robotics as they have shown with DJI and Tiktok.
its literally a toy from the Chinese. Robots from BD are for sure heading into the military field or heavy-duty stuff like firefighters, underwater, hazard environment etc...
2:14 I love how it's acceptable in the West whenever reading a Chinese aloud name to just smash together a random collection of syllables. Htf do you get "Zi Yang" from "Xing Xing"? Even if you have no idea it's clearly the same sound twice...
When elon musk buys Boston dynamics and merge it with his new AI company and Tesla he is going to make a transformers kind of robots that has intelligence.
It's easy to do things at a cut price when you don't do any of the R&D.
the problem with that statement is that they do the r&d themselves
it's not like they bought a Spot and just made a knockoff, they engineered these on their own
sure they look the same, but that's because the thing they're basing them on is the same
Aech Dee not even comparable, BD probably spent hundreds of millions more than this relatively unknown Chinese company. Obviously it’s not like anyone can just buy one and copy it, they will need an efficient team and structure, but if you look them up, it all points to just basic intelectual property being stolen/copied at a simpler level
Sloth Armstrong yeah , clearly has been working for chinese companies, since most big tech companies have factories there too they also have ease of production when copying stuff. It doesn’t usually lead to long lasting and stable market, but the cheaper alternatives do have a huge demand to fulfill
Aech Dee lmao what are you talking about? it’s china....of course they just took spot and reversed engineered it 😂 just like everything else in china it’s a stolen design
@@TheAechBomb yeah whatever. 100% stolen IP
when aliens will invade us, don't worry, the chinese will make a perfect copy of their tech at low cost the next day
It actually needs skills and technology to do a good reverse engineering and clone. Japan did that, US did that by adopting German tech after WW2... So the cycle of life Iguess
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The Philadelphia company too will be on point to help with also making those copies. So it's closer to home cuz by then, China and US would have banned each other to oblivion 🤣
@@pitot1988 they dont reverse engineer they copy everything and make some adjustment. They look the same they cant change its look because of how the program works they just dont look the same but move the same too
copying is less expensive than studying, investing, creating and testing.
Ever had of something called patents.. Unitree is far more manuvarable the don't have the same gates.. Boston is just another hyped up company with the luxury of being American
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Chinese companies are good at copying.. 🤔
@@jaysonmokhwanatsi7365 ever [had] of theft? You edited your comment and still you missed that.
@@timtunnel1996 copying is the first step to innovation
This video seems to blindly assume that Boston Dynamics/Softbank intend to sell their robots as toys to consumers. Boston Dynamics simply aren't targeting consumers. They probably don't mind that companies like Unitree Robotics are ripping off their hardware to sell to consumers. The majority of Boston Dynamics' IP is software anyway, which I'm sure is carefully guarded. The Unitree robot may look similar to Spot at first glance, but you can be assured that Spot has many more features and is a much more polished platform. The $75,000 price ticket does not reflect manufacturing costs, it is recouping R&D costs. As a toy, a robot dog really isn't that useful or entertaining, and will see limited sales with a price that is puts it out of reach of most consumers. Boston Dynamics knows this, which is why they're targeting military/industrial applications.
Chinese software engineers are nothing to sneeze at. They have very talented people. To discount them is foolish. And dangerous.
Lance Monotone Kindly point out the part of my comment where I discounted Chinese software engineers.
Lance Monotone I agree talented at stealing cause you still need talent for that 😂
@@gameintheglitch1860 The red-pilled can believe whatever conspiracy they want; it doesn't change the facts out here in the real world. In the end, it doesn't matter how the Chinese got ahead of us. I have read that their coders are every bit as good as ours, others say they must have stolen their knowledge because American brains are exceptional against all evidence to the contrary. Shrug. The only thing that matters is that they have it and know what to do with it.
@@rusmiller816 I said nothing about Chinese engineers. It's obvious that the A1 is a blatant ripoff of Spot. A reasonable quality ripoff by the looks of it, but a ripoff nonetheless. Regarding the featureset/completeness of each product, all you have to do is visit each company's respective website and read the documentation. Spot is an industrial product with extensive documentation, the A1 doesn't even have a user manual. A cool toy, but Unitree has a long way to go before they can be considered a serious player in the robotics research space.
First person who makes this dog 5 grand and useable to carry groceries, will be the next big thing.
Or as a replacement for a wheelchair.
I’d like to see what a real dog thinks of it?
See James Bruton's channel.
China will probably have this in a year or two. look at what happened to segway, they went from $3,000 items, down to $300 after China took them over.
@@alphagt62 go watch the unbox therapy video. the dog started freaking out lol
If you like Boston Dynamics, the last thing that you want is a Steve Jobs in the company.
Yes you wouldn’t want a COE who built or resurrected multiple multiple billion dollars corporations. Yes continue to loose money until your patrons cut you off and you go bankrupt.
@@matthewhuszarik4173 you didn't seem to get the point, but i'm not exactly surprised by that fact...
@@Darusdei What IS the point?
Ahhh yes Steve jobs the guy who took a salary of 1 dollar just to make the company grow will ruin the company.........nice
@@triptabhagoria7279 $1 *to avoid tax :)
Wow, a Chinese company which has a direct copy of Boston Dynamics robot which took many years of R&D in only a couple years? Wonder how they did that?! 😂
stealing as usual
LOL, I guess Ghost Robotics are also thieves eh
Buy the original, reverse engineer it, sell it cheaper. But of course with shitty quality.
Talking about quality is a subjective point. If 90% of the world population only can afford cheaper technology then that's how business works. As a businessman, I will chase 90% of buying capability than 10%. Not everyone can buy expensive thing while we can get it at a lower price without compromising the quality too much. For example, if I could buy 10 dollar product which is durability can be up to 1 year why should I buy 100 dollar product for 3 years durability. Don't forget that tech evolving and improving very fast if I spend 100 dollars for 1 product after a year, the technology I have might be not that relevant as what as I got a year before. So should I missed out the new revolution of enhanced product for another year or spending another 100 dollars for the new one. The smartphone is a classic example.
@@srykextraodinairecreation9962 you mean "theft" of thechnology. China never innovates, they steal and make cheap.
Once an innovator shows what is possible, others follow more quickly. Just like breaking the 5 minute mile. (Edit: 4 minute mile in 1954, surpassed only 46 days later.)
You mean 4? 5 was broken probably 300 years ago
Albert Weedstein The Thug Genius you got
me! Roger Bannister 3:59.4 May 6, 1954.
@@billrumbley now athletes dont have to innovate, shoe companies do it for them.
effexon LOL. Talent + tools + practice + desire + resources.
@@effexon how do you innovate? You just fucking train hard. Modern athletes train no less harder than older athletes
2020: Even dogs will get unemployed
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dog: fired！😂😂😂
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Throw a rug around it and get it to bark to keep potential bugulars away from your house. 😂
But those sniffing nose are hard to replace tho.
It’s amazing how cheap you can sell things when you don’t have to pay for R&D! Why doesn’t everybody just steal someone’s else tech?
Because that's not a good thing to do
@@m0nk3yman53 yes, a moral obligation towards fair business practices will surely stop companies from partaking in immoral acts that could get them a greater level of profit and influence.
because there's no one to copy from
Sarcasm people, the chinese are doing what they do best, finding a product that already works and making poor quality versions of it.
Can’t wait to see one competing on American Ninja Warrior.
My university has a robot Nina warrior course. Not legged robots though
Check out robomaster competition
Atlas could do it today.
“A1” eh? ... I guess that means we are a little way from the “T800” series. Which is good news.
Unless they jump from S10 to S20 like some smart phones :o
Pilipino ka?
New battery tech from EVs will advance this industry tremendously. Batteries are getting more and more efficient.
U own tesla stock
and more dense, we truly live in a wonderful era
actually bateries had allmost reached their max in energy density allready...maybee they could get 15%(if that!) more for the same volume , but thats it...
@@Lipi19821 there will always be more solutions, as you know numbers are infinite
@@HoloScope enyoj that 1 more milimeter of range 5 years latter...ant then 0,01 mm in next 5...
Calling the Department of Homeland Security a public safety entity is a bit of a stretch.
Just wait until a gun equiped robot dog points a gun at yah lol
@Vibrant JAPAN I'm subbing
He knows - "... and other ...ah... public safety entities."
@Vibrant JAPAN Fuck it, I'll subscrie too! Succeed, damn it!
I'm currently working with both (Spot and Unitree A1) and only can say if you spend literally for every part a 7th less as Boston Dynamics sure you'll get an affordable Robot but you'll get what you pay for and as an enginner myself the Unitree feels like a toy and Spot like an industrial solution and an industrial solution will and should never be the cheapest consumer product. It should be made for the task and therefore should be well engineered. Can't say that for the A1.
Are they even the same league? Is the unitree robot as functional as spot?
2:16
Screen: *"Xingxing"*
Neoscribe: *"Ziong"*
"John, shouldn't we be making these technologies more affordable?"
"Naw, i think it's Goodenough"
That what I was thinking 😂😂
Naw let it B. Goodenough :)
@Vibrant JAPAN dude- great content man- You've sold me
Affordable robots to replace you in your job, thats going to be so great for ya!
😂😂😂😂😂
Now that Hyundai bought BD, they will surely improve on commercialization department
Probably yeah, and for sure in their own production and factories.
Commercials aint problem shiy Boston dynamics is well known and famous, they need to cut down costs and target a market
@@drained1177 so far they have a market and are making big money selling these expensively. While companies will buy them no point making it cheaper to appeal to the more common public
@@jaidenoliver7165 Big screen 4k TVs are EXPENSIVE but are selling like hotcakes! There are a LOT of RICH people in the world!
pretty sure BD's main target are contracts. And not necessarily the SPOT model, but their programming. Sure they can sell many SPOT's at $75,000 each, but the real money is either in mass market where they can sell metric more than what SPOT is selling at a massive volume or government/corperate contracts that go into tens or hundreds of millions.
the technology is basically out there for anyone to use the tricky part comes with the programming and visual recognition mostly, not so much getting the servos and step motors to work
Facts. The open source stuff seems great though.
Yeah. Many people that aren’t familiar with control theory often over look how difficult it is tune control algorithms .
@@jesuseyez619 😂The challenge that will hit Engineers in this century will be so great I bet that books will be written about it in the next.
Boston Dynamics has already open sourced its code on many stuff. They already did the hard work.
@@l0_0l45
🤔Welp
Lemme dig my fingers into some of the code.
*BD has unlimited amount of money because all comes from US Army; you know all that taxes we paid go to.*
Kind of reminds me of WiFi in Australia, we invented it and yet everyone else in the world has surpassed us and improved on it.
Kind of embarrassing when you think about it
Stolen it you mean
@@HazyHerbivore
Can't steal something that was never ours, Australia fumbled the ball and everyone else picked it up.
Uh no a hollywood actress made wifi that only thing that australian scientist did was transform it and make it better plus this isnt the same since the u.s is the tech hub
By the same token France invented the internet (minitel). Bet you didn't know that
Why is there a need to monopolize anything you invent? All of science and computing is the collective effort of thousands of amazingly clever people. Its laying the first stone so others can build a pyramid.
I dont think Friedman and the physicists of the 20th century expanding on the theory of relativity mean Einstein dropped the ball, even if Friedman proved Einstein wrong about a static universe.
Claiming sole ownership of something only matters if you want to patent it and make money, its useless in terms of pushing humanity forwards. Inventing something that inspires others to work on it is not embarrassing.
We need to send these robots to the moon and build a moon base
Would need a massive engineering effort to keep the regolith from destroying it's components. Every flake of it is like a shard of glass. Astronaut's suits were ruined by it.
You're not wrong.
@@Scott_C Why not have wheels on legs that can adjust its height with most of the construction equipment on a robotic arm on the back. The hopping motion of the dog will kick up more moon dust than a slow moving rover.
For the wheels can be directly driven with a motor inside the hub.If the weight is too heavy for the motor-in-wheel design, then a motor in the arm connected to a drive shaft directly that goes down to a small differential that can slide up and down and act in harmony with a suspension made of some springy composite material can work too, and possibly the latter design would be easier to make than the prior if you include seals at each component that moves against each other and what separates the components from the inside to the outside world just like many car components .
@@31bank wheeled robot would make sense. However, take a minute to go research the wheels used on the Moon Buggy NASA made for the Apollo Missions. That may help you understand what you're suggesting.
They'd only last mechanically a few days. They likely wouldn't work on the lunar surface at all due to cosmic particle bombardment. Space hardware needs to be rad hardened.
They need a Steve jobs for what, to make it more expensive?
Yeah they would need to make it more expensive just to cover his salary.
@Sergio Balaguera Sush, stop worshiping a dead man.
I just wonder when they'll release the first leged wheel chair. Remembering my late friend Lennart who was bound to a wheelchair that would have been such an incredible upgrade!
Joe
@@KoolAids-vj1ll mama?
Do it. What's stopping you ?
Chinese companies are relentless in cut throat competition, they will bring down the cost of a 4 legged robot to that of an iphone, not the 75k of Boston Dynamics.
For the good of mankind, imagine buying one of these to help your grandparents haul their weekly groceries for them because this relentlessness of chinese competiton
@@youngz13o What village do you live in ? , they just have Uber drop it off on the front porch
out in the sticks ? A drone will do it , having the dog carry it ? Not that feasible
@@youngz13o for the good of mankind ? You do realize that one of the reasons why Chinese products are cheap is because of Chinese labor. So witch mankind are you talking about. Because it's definitely not these working in the factory.
Have you any idea how overpriced an iphone is?I live in india...For the price of a brand new iphone i could buy a New 100-200cc motocycle.Its ridiculous.Let me give you another example..Hv you heard of the interceptor from re?its probably the cheapest 650cc bike in the states..but in india it costs half of that😂😂😂
Toms River sorry but you are part of the crowd that lives in a bubble. Do you know who are the 800 million people that were lifted out of poverty? It was the people that worked in the factories
Boston Dynamics definitely have the fan base to go commercial.
What do you mean when you say commercial
@@sr_aron
What he means is that they have the fanbase to go into the consumer market.
Robots you can bang, that's the future.
😂🤣😂 Yep. 😂🤣😂
That's going to happen watch the porn industry...! If it's going to happen they are the ones to do it.
How could it be any other way in 'murica? (? xD
To make a robot that can walk is easy if compared to a robot that can give you hugs and comfort.
Its not like anyone wants to fuck a hung of metal, what we all seek is deeper and way more complex interaction.
So i have my doubt about sex robots, and if we ever make a robot cable of feeling human enough to imitate love. we gonna run into the AI problem of the singularity.
In fact I feel pretty secure in saying its stupid dream that'll never come true, because sex is more than putting stuff in holes.
An here is why:
Without a truly human feeling brain, its gonna be be huge turn off for most sane people, and with a human feeling brain you no longer have a robot but a human.
Because we only want the perfect human, we all know how to spot a fake human, it's in our instincts. so anything less will hit right in the uncanny valley and be a huge turnoff.
I do not see how you gonna make a perfect copy of human, that somehow is not a human.
All that said, people are probably in the end fine with paying high cash for fake sex, it will mostly only be for men as the robots won't be much more than a glorified sexy toy.
@@MouseGoatHave you ever played AI dungeon?
The fact that their competitors cant charge a higher price should give you a hint about who got leverage.
There's considerable functionality difference.
Having a Steve Jobs in a company ultimately leads to slowing down the innovation process because of the "we need to milk it dry" mindset
Steve Jobs died before the "we need to milk it dry era" of apple
When you r&d for ten years and some rips you off making it impossible to again make something else amazing
You can't tell just from the looks. BD could use for copyright or design patents if people could confuse the two products, but no telling what is copied and what just basically works because form follows function.
It looks as though they bought one and reverse engineered it, they are far too similar. They could have at least changed the aesthetics a bit.
Its the feeling you get when you go on Alibaba and see your design copied ,
And its only half price , China passes the "slavings" on to you !
I ended up just "Leaking" the designs I knew would fail ,
Looked good on paper , prototype showed numerous core problems
Let them waste there time and resources
Chinese 🤣🤣
Why is boston stop making amazing robots because their smallest one has rip off clone? -confirming their design- Makes no sense
As I understand it, 3D printing can help reduce costs in prototyping and small-batch production, but at this point, traditional tooling is still more efficient for mass production.
Yes
How many units are they producing to sell at $70k is the real question? Maybe it could be more cost effective at their scale?
Everyone: uses spots for Industries
Me: uses him as a dancing buddy
why is the background trying to hypnotize me?
They want YOU to become their Steve Jobs
A good example is Honda’s ASIMO, where did that go?
Jumped on the back of the prototype honda D18 and escaped human capture to start the robotic rebellion from a inhospitable wasteland near fukushima power plant.
Robotics that imitate basic human structure/movements/coexistence don't seem as commercially viable as something more specialized, like a rescue bot or something.
@@gluttonousmaximus9048 is commercially viable unless is too expensive. Most basic jobs for humans require basics set of motions. And the think is basic human motions, like leg movements, are far more flexible then whelled motion.
And besides huge costs, far bigger then todays robots, ASIMO had problems performing basic motions and was very slow for most of them. You are making a dumb comparisson.
Was that ever supposed to be a product?
US acquire them....
In reality the simile is between Microsoft, and just about every other software company of the eighties. While everybody else was doing technology, Gates was was doing business.
In future these ai machines will share those clips saying " see how a human kicking our ancestors its time to avenge"
"I don't know who would have a use for Parkour robots"
Disney would be interested for Disney world attractions where dangerous stunts are done by people. They're ready developing them
Military and police. Thats who BD are aiming for.
A big push for robotic development was the nuclear disaster in Japan.
A robotic cop in pursuit of an outlaw?
@@michaelpettersson4919 a ROBOCOP
Boston Dynamics price is not coming from the manufacturing but the chinese copies probably are. Also BD doesn't need consumer markets to make their business profitable.
U can expect innovating companies like boston dynamics to show less progress reports (cool robot videos) publicly in the future.
Thanks, Winnie.
To be fair, you don’t discuss the technical differences between the two. Whilst the Chinese knock off might appear similar to BD’s Spot, I’m pretty sure Spot is in a completely different league in regard to technical ability and real word applications. One is a toy, the other a scientific instrument.
is it? spot doesn't have much intelligence on its own, you have to program it to do tasks, very far from a siri automated helper.
@@churblefurbles siri spies on you
Churble Furbles so what’s your point? Spot does have learning abilities, it can map the area it walks, and adapt. As well as having many ways to expand its sensors and functionality. It’s primarily designed to function in industry, not an expensive toy. Not forgetting ALL devices require a level of programming since true AI isn’t here. It’s a matter of selecting the tool that fits the purpose.
@@rodd1000 shhh don't tell the idiot he's an idiot
Didnt he mention that Boston Dynamics are still big step ahead technologically, his argument is that without a business model it is unlikely to stay that way for long.
6:40 John Goodenough what a name...
The title should read: "Why the world should be worried about Chinese IP theft".
Basically. Who cares if the Chinese or other parties steal the tech, they won't innovate on it because thats not what they care about. They just want to profit off it as long as possible until it becomes outdated and they have to buy another to steal a new design. Well that and generating tons of e waste with products that go straight from the production line to the landfill.
@@AshleyBrown-fj3wh , China is filing more patents than any other nation actually.
@@HR-yd5ib yeah that'll happen when you have a billion people with the potential to file them. Look I'm not saying the Chinese are bereft of creativity or other such racist nonsense, but to pretend they don't steal designs and ignore patants and copyright law is pretty foolish.
@@AshleyBrown-fj3wh , hence my suggestion to change the title of this video!
yeah, it is not like Chinese ever beat US in anything, like, i dunno 5G...
Just like anything new, _how can we weaponize it?_
The hardest and most important part of engineering is driving down the cost of amazing tech until it is compelling enough to he affordable.
I wish I could go back in time to 1984, go to a Terminator premiere, pick a few people after the show, get them in a room and show them this YT video. The reactions I'd get would be priceless.
they would 400 percent shit themselves or pass out lmao
YES! With a $10K price tag, 4-leged robots will fly off the shelves. The $70K+ was simply too much for the average consumer.
LOL, yes. Personally, I waited to get my first smartphone until they came down to $5K.
@@AlecMuller wait what? Smartphones for 5k ?!
It’s similar to drone photography/ surveying, only it’s in it’s own specialised role. If your doing maintenance jobs in buildings, vents or tunnels, these small drones are perfect for the task of fitting into small or hazardous spaces. From a business standpoint if this makes a $60,000p.a worker 20% more efficient, you will have already turned a profit on the investment within the first year.
@@kubajackiewicz2 I had to read that again
A $10K party novelty gets old really fast.
if you are here for a good recipe
go to 5:14 for a delicious pixel soup
It’s simple: the military.
I love Boston Dynamics passions to give their best on their robots instead of cutting off price for certain parts just to make their robot relevant than the others. Other companies make cheaper robots but people will look up to Boston Dynamics as the best in the robotics business
Being an American company, could some of this relate to a focus on military applications--with the history of an over-priced industry?
Boston Dynamics needs to make the programming and distribution of apps for their robots as easily as possible, that way they can become the PC of consumer robotics.
I like the analog but I do not think that is Boston dynamics Job. With PCs users Flunder usecases themselves Spot. Many users became experts and published Software, way more than a Single manufacturer alone ever could...
Given enough time and granted that the spot Plattform is open for this I see a lot of Potential in these things.
But remember the days when only 400 PCs have been Sold... there is still along way to go, such communitys usually Take time to grow.
Spot is a really gute step though, as atlas will be and I guess one that will o ly really be understood in a faraway, future, what a great time to live in and watched this development
I agree with you imagine if BD had a Musk type person leading the company what a difference. Marc Raibert stated that the use cases for their bots are Emergency Response, Parcel Delivery, Security, Entertainment, Warehouse Iogiistics, Elderly & Disabled Care. I hope BD takes your advice also I want to see a competition human vs bots in Olympic type sports. Seems they need to power a bot for at least 8 hours of use and build up from their, the battery tech is not their yet!
if you don't think musk is heavily and secretely funded by the gov't you need to lay off the meth.
It wouldn't surprise me if they stole the designs from Boston Dynamic shortly before that company was started. Then modified it just enough to not infringed on patents.
"I'll believe i t when I see it" as the saying goes. Intent to produce something at an affordable price is in no way related to actually achieving that goal. That chinese robot already looks like it's using the exact same movement software as Boston Dynamics, so I wouldn't put it past Chinese sticking to their regular theft of intellectual property.
Very interesting comparison, seems that black robots from Unitree has more features than the robots from Boston Dynamics, it can totally flat, then rotating back to walking position. Also seems it has less bulk size. If it can carry 5kg, this is really something to end-user market. The price is definitely something will determine the winner of the market.
So can Spot... And Spot carries 14 kilo...
When do we get the first domestic house robot who can do the diches, dusting, vacuum cleaning, cleaning the toilet and bathroom, washing, ironing, cooking and gardening?
“Developed” by Unitree
J J yeah just skip all the other amurican companies doing the same thing and blame the chinese company, real class.
Winnie the pool
@@missyxixi Hey, just show us one of those "other companies" claiming to have "developed" it and we'll laugh at them too.
@@missyxixi there are no other companies, this is literally the iron man meme where Ton Stark shows how behind all the other countries are, they literally stole the idea and built a toy that wont do what it was made for
'They have the Tesla, they need the Edison!!'
Boston Dynamics like you said builds advance robotics they are pioneers of the industry. Its about knowledge not application.
"Welcome to your Daily Dose of Internet" voice
US makes research and development.
Chinese scientist copy paste the next day selling cheaper.
Are these news?
Yeah communism is too restrictive for inventive creatively. So they copy stuff
Very good points. The China company however is most likely copying / stealing. It's easier to drop the price when you have not invested in a large and pioneering RnD project.
It's fun seeing our future robot overlords while they're still young and cute
Everything in tech needs competition other wise they’ll just have high priced units until competition comes in the game and offers cheaper prices
any competition in the tech world would only make the market better and better in terms of price, quality, and value for customers
We need pressure on innovation not price. Price pressure means R&D becomes too expensive and innovators cannot enter the market, so you end up with a race-to-the-bottom with everyone selling the same cost-cut-to-the-bone design.
@@panduadikara9078 any competition in any time of market is good
Hell, even in an individual level, competence can be good
Who built the 1 st bipedal robots? Honda?
It really depend on what customer the company is targeting on. Anyway, Boston Dynamic is my tea as it means creativity. Someone already said that to make something cheaper is much more easy than create something new, and it's true. To keep the creation we need to "keep" the creators
Seriously, his name is John Goodenough!
What makes you think the 74k $ retail price are their production cost for a spot robot? Do you really mean production cost as in materials and assembly costs? I am convinced the price is chosen to agree with what buyers are prepared to pay and is supposed to cover some of the huge R&D costs over the anticipated number of sales...
Michael reeves is gonna be pissed that he could've bought that 10k one instead of a 100k one XD
It wouldn't have been able to hold the beer though
The 10k one is just ripping bostons hardware. Bostons mostly sells software. Bostons robot is in every way superior
Imagine 1:1 gundam in Japan has movement system by boston dynamics
As long as people call Boston dynamics competition „the other guys“, I don’t think they have much of a problem.
Cyberdyne Systems have some interesting developments along with Skynet.
Everyone gangsta till one of the bots asks for a Plasma Rifle in 40 watt range
Why do you think I went to school for a MS in mechanical engineering?! To be a robot supervisor or repairman 🤔😁😂
Clearly a repairman
Repairman and your robot overlords will let you live. 😄
Consumer-grade is not where the money lies, if they can create a military-grade robot then they will have a huge income.
great! the chinese can't even make e-scooters that don't blow up in flames, and now they're making a walking explosion hazard
As if having a Steve jobs did any good to the world. Does the name Linus Torvalds ring a bell?
I'm not a great steve jobs fan, but credit where it's due, he was fantastic at marketing, presentation and business strategy (why else would people buy mac books? Their specs are sub par at their price point), Linus had a completely different ethos, it's proprietary vs open source, two different goals.
@@longleaf0doesnt change what he contributed, which is in reality not too much. Sure he was able to market his company's products well but other than the early innovations in Personal Computers and the iPhone both of which were created mostly by others with him focusing on marketability he didnt do much himself. He is well known due to being the face of the company for so long. He also set the standard within apple of playing it safe over adopting innovations. It's one reason why Wozniak left, Jobs wanted to mass produce and sell a product while Wozniak wanted to explore what could be possible with personal computers. The first apple computer designed by Wozniak had a large role in bringing bringing programmable computers into peoples homes. Without that innovation Jobs could've just as well have been marketing pocket calculators made with smooth aluminum like today's macbooks. He might've done a good job at it but it would just be marketing. Surely there has to be a balance between innovation and consistent reliable products but apple has always had a problem with innovation with a few major exceptions like the apple 2 and iphone but otherwise only gradual improvements and late adoption of new technologies. The locking down of what many people now refer to as the apple ecosystem is also anti consumer in my honest opinion and it was present to a degree long before modern apple. It was all an effort to make sales as high as possible for all their products. It made them money and possibly jump started personal computer usage but not much else. I am just grateful we have open source operating systems and alternatives to apple hardware because if they truly monopolized the smartphone market as Jobs intended by suing android os competition and the computer hardware market we'd probably be pretty far back relative to where we are today. Personally to me he was an aggressive businessman that did help create some huge markets but was anti consumer and anti competitor in a bad way. Instead of beating the competition several times apple opted to try to shut it down and I am happy they failed. I value freedom of all types including freedom to use your hardware however you like since it is your property and not a subscription service.
It seams to me that BD aggregates money for development. I think this is fine, I'm also a developer and happy when I just can build my ideas. Maybe a concept like ARM would work, deliver the concept /software for a license. Forcing a developer to aim for money will kill their joy on developing stuff (happened to me).
Copyright in china means the right to copy.
😂
Good one and so true.
Proof?
Boston published their research eg www.researchgate.net/scientific-contributions/Marc-Raibert-2083226138
If I see them things running through fields I might renew my hunting license
I'll hunt one of those!!
You wouldn't be able to move fast enough to aim and shoot one if it's a military version, which it would see you first before you even new it was their, Skynet is coming .
Do you think Hyundai after buying them will change that and make them have a vision? (Like affordable robots to be as abundant as quad drones)
I feel like big companies can still take advantage of more advanced robots like an automated ultraviolet light path clearing robot in virus infested areas or hospitals.
SpaceX should buy Boston Dynamics ....
Boston Dynamics owned by Softbank.
Softbank has Share in Tesla.
Softbank owned Oneweb ( now bankrupt)
Oneweb is similar service like Starlink of SpaceX , bt forced to shutdown.
@@hasnat9545 Also, Boston Dynamics was owned by Google until they decided not to get into the military grip trifactor in 2016. It was then for sale quite some time and as far as I know, Elon Musk gave it a pass.
@@marcus_w0 yep, really it's not sustainable for a long time
Dude BD makes DARPA driven military units... not pet bots. You’ll see their robots in the next armed conflict... not walking on the street with kids.
Also in the next unarmed conflict. Protesters getting killed by robot dogs,. Fox tv will side with the robots of course!
Lounge lizard as will everyone not wearing black clothes.
BD doesn't have military contracts anymore, not since they were under Google. They screen buyers for Spot and have said they can and will brick the robots of any that try weaponizing it.
Now Ghost Robotics on the other hand, they seem to be going headfirst into that field.
I work for nuclear industry, and Chinas stuff is last thing you want. I used to work for a company that designed and manufactured bespoke ROVs that would cost well more than $74k. Still, specification of environment, requires best possible equipment. It may cost less to purchase a Chinese knock off but it can cost more in time to resolve any issues, problems, instabilities, and projects not delivered on time. So I would not worry about BD as long as they deliver reliable equipment.
Spot on analysis and I've been thinking the same thing about BD. I wish Musk would buy it. But couple of things to point out here. Unitree is a Chinese company and sadly it shocks no one that their product appears to be an exact duplicate of BD's robot dog nor are they shocked at Unitree's price tag. Let's not pretend that China isn't controlled by an organization that operates like a cross between the mafia and the Nazis with factories running on slave-like labor. How does any company anywhere in the world compete with slave labor except with trade protections? We don't know for sure that BD's motor-sensory algorithms, for example, were simply "acquired" and handed over to Unitree's founder by the Chinese military, but it's perfectly reasonable to think it's possible and given the constant news about Chinese state hacking and industrial espionage occurring on university campuses it's quite probable. Nevertheless, BD is likely to get it's clock cleaned by cheap copy-cats because quite frankly the market wants and needs cheap copy cats if you can't supply the high quality version at the right price point. Unitree will have it's own problems gaining traction, however. They will probably run into QC issues that put a drag on sales and will have to laboriously climb their way up the ladder to reach the magical quality-price ratio that the market needs. That's a lot of heavy lifting for a start up that doesn't have a lot of it's own R&D to lean on. If BD wants to be around in 5 years, they need to 1) call Elon Musk or Michael Dell and 2) admit that their tech is leaching out and reach out to U.S. trade representatives to even the playing field against unfair trade practices if that is in fact going on. UPDATE: Did not realize that Hyundai has already purchased control of BD. All I can say is...Thank the lord. Smartest move BD ever made (or Japan's Softbank ever made, whoever sold it) selling out to a company with a massive distribution pipeline to both consumer and commercial markets.
I’ve always felt really suspicious about those guys.
a parkour rbot isnt made for parkour. its to test a robots agility, its balance, its battery life, power usage. so many things go into moving a robot. so yes they made a parkour robot but you have no idea how much of a leap that is if you see it as just a "parkour robot"
Steve Jobs would double the price just by applying a Mac logo on the thing, I'm not too sure that it would be a good idea.
Actually it was after Steve Jobs died the Apple started using their name to overprice their products.
Isn't Boston Dynamics related to DARPA?
BigDog was the robot developed with DARPA funding
Google acquired Boston Dynamics in 2013 and sold it to SoftBank in 2017. SoftBank, the owner of Boston Dynamics at the time of this video, is a Japanese company. Hyundai, the major owner of Boston Dynamics at the time of this posting, is a Korean company.
I wonder how much of these robots capabilities are created with ML and how much is direct programming
John Goodenough... 💀
you sound so sad in this video and I completely get why... but honestly, good job to China
Yeah, I'm impressed they managed to steal it that fast.
@@tjpprojects7192 lol "steal". You still believe in that stereotype. China is peer competitor in AI and robotics as they have shown with DJI and Tiktok.
its literally a toy from the Chinese. Robots from BD are for sure heading into the military field or heavy-duty stuff like firefighters, underwater, hazard environment etc...
_Please,_ "nuclear", not "nucilar".
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@@LRTOTAL :o))
Well done Dude! Very insightful! We owe you a beer!
2:14 I love how it's acceptable in the West whenever reading a Chinese aloud name to just smash together a random collection of syllables. Htf do you get "Zi Yang" from "Xing Xing"? Even if you have no idea it's clearly the same sound twice...
When I hear Boston dynamics I always think about massive dynamics from fringe.
yeah... and behind Boston Dynamics is DARPA...
To be successful in business you need to learn stealing and killing with a smile.
Hey, what you said A1 is aliengo, a larger version from umitree
When elon musk buys Boston dynamics and merge it with his new AI company and Tesla he is going to make a transformers kind of robots that has intelligence.
You know Boston dynamics is now by Hyundai ,right?
China can just replicate everything in cheap price. So why pay 1 robot when you can buy more at the same price.😂