To be fair Cleo, when you pushed the robot it was not expecting it. You were expecting to be pushed so we can see you tense in the video ready for the push. In that sense you had a big advantage over Atlas. I wonder how you would have performed if you had been blindfolded, and not known when the push was coming? So, Atlas's response was even better than you originally thought.
People always talking about how they humanize robots because they feel bad for seeing them being bullied. Meanwhile, I'm apologizing to my instruments whenever I accidentally bump em against something. Like humans will feel bad for hitting a stone under the right circumstances. And the companion cube in Portal is one of the most loved videogame characters and that's in-universe literally just a weighted cube you can put on big buttons.
it is a pretty strange dilemma, human emotions. It's such a weird thought from a scientific standpoint that we feel the need to care for such inanimate things. Even messing up a robot's blocks will make us feel empathy even though the robot is just a more complicated inanimate object
When that day comes, you would be surprised at how well they could generalise across problems. Look at what people have been able to achieve with the gpt4 vision this month
Scary video, there's already robotic CEOs. What you decide is a job you don't want to do may be a living for a family. Universal Basic Income is nonsense, where's the money coming from?? The rich already have international tax avoidance rackets. This is going to end with one guy with an army of omniscient omnipresent super intelligent AI robots & everyone else living in caves.
I'm surprised you didn't mention that the primary reason for the Asimo's design/size is that it makes it eye level to a human sitting down, which is the most common scenario for aged-care/health-care robots to be looking after us. The humanoid aspect was also chosen for Asimo since it makes it easier to relate to it.
Also, shorter humans tend to be better gymnasts (when you look at women's gymnastics). That may have a role as well- would make it easier for atlas to do backflips, etc.
Wow, what an amazing journey you just took us on. I had no idea that making robots more like us could make things so complex. It really made me appreciate how awesome our human bodies are and all the things they do every day. Makes you wonder, if we had humanoid robots in our daily lives, what tasks would we give them? Definitely something to think about. Great watch!
If this becomes a daily part of our lives people will become even more lazy, and fatter. The only ones who will benefit will be Boston Dynamics. (Buy your shares today!) 😅
Human should only created task designed robots, not general humanoid robots. When you want a robot to remodel your kitchen you buy a robot with kitchen-remodeling brain chip. You can buy another chip such gardening later.
The Boston dynamics robots are specifically developed as part of a militarized police force. I wouldn't be cheering this shit on. It's not learning parkour and how to not be pushed over because it's going to be used to help grannies in the future, it's being developed this way so it can kill and restrain people.
Love your videos. I'm a science teacher and used this in my robotics class, great intro and overview, kids got really engaged. Keep up the awesome work.
Except in the Milgram experiment it was about doing thing to other, concious and pain-feeling being while she mostly asked because she didn't want to damage expensive technology.
@@Kuhmuhnistische_Parteithat's done wishful thinking on your part she made it pretty clear she felt uncomfortable because it was humanoid, not because it was expensive.
could your dog clean your house top to bottom consistently so it never really got dirty? a robot as dexterous as a human could. it doesn't need time off or a living wage either. just long enough to top off it's batteries which could be done by swapping with ready fully charged cells stored nearby. could your dog perform minor household repairs?
I cant even get mine to be quiet bro how tf did you train it so gooooood I went over to my best buds place and he has three dogs and not a single one barked when i entered the building they all just gave me kisses and hugs 😢
after seeing the "push" autocorrection: *think about this.* A) Atlas is very good at calculating balance correction. If you push it, it will autocorrect. B) Now say you fall into atlas accidentally because YOU tripped. Atlas now autocorrects its balance and crushes your limb in the process because it valued its balance over a much MUCH harder calculation including your choice of balancing and autocorrection in real time. C) everything in (b) gets multiplied even further into complexity as people have entirely different levels of coordination, or accident experience. D) it chooses a neutral option, of collapse, and now a dangerous heavy piece of machinery with limbs is falling with/on you. The amount of corrections and processing power to function safely around humans is off the charts.
And we are decades if not hundreds of years away from real autonomous thinking robots. We don't even have a power source for this nonsense, these things run for mere minutes without a wall plug. The whole thing (Like EV vehicles) is a joke.
On some level, you know the human body is incredibly complex, but I guess it doesn't really hit you until you think about getting a robot to act the same way.
Human body is insanely complex. Remember that we do not have actuators that can push, only pull. When you stand still, your muscles are working hard because your bones would twist all over the place and you would collapse if muscles do not keep you balanced at all times. This has some side-effects, too. Your neck can get sore if the muscles in your calves are too tight because all the muscles from your calves to your neck work non-optimally and your back will twist incorrectly as a result.
We are adaptable precision machines. Take away one limb and we recalculate everything. Even something so easy as walking implies that we try and develope the muscles to keep the center of mass in a stable path with minimum energy waste, which is the basic in physical anthropology for bipedestation.
Hey Cleo, I really like the ad timer.... That is a subtle and brilliant use of psychology. I usually don't have the patience for ads... But with the timer, I felt that the amount of time I had to wait was low enough that I didn't want to bother trying to skip ahead... In essence, because I knew how long I had to wait, I felt more like being patient.
That is considered to her viewers, even though you pay for premium with no ads (i do), you still have ads in videos by creators, this is very nice of her if you don't want to watch the ad, you know how much to skip it to get to content, I wish all content creators are this fair, another solution is to put ad at the end, the most rude solution is what linus does in his tech quiky videos
I think her way of presenting the ad helps, too. It's more like a person telling you about something they found rather than trying to sell a product to you.
There are a zillion videos on TH-cam about robots, and almost all of them are either click bait or just down right horrible! This is by far the best video about robots that I have watched on TH-cam. Thank you very much!
Cleo, I'm new to your channel and am so impressed by your skills as a researcher and communicator! I could watch your content all day as you bring a spirit of curiosity and passion to every subject you touch.
Man... this was a beautiful journey you took us on, wish I could extend my life span to about 500 years to see and be a part of the sci-fi future we are heading into.
I hope you won't need 500 years. I don't know how old you are, but I'm 20 and I fully expect to see these things in people's homes by the time I'm 40 or 50.
50 years will likely have huge advances. Plus maybe some biological life extension. People born now will likely have functional average 100 year life spans.
When she was shoving the robot, if I were the programmer, I'd make the robot say something like "Why, why are you doing this to me?" in a really sad voice.
Cleo, you're so amazing, so glad you got to go to Boston Dymanics. I reached out to my aunt who works there, so I hope she somehow helped, she's a big fan as well!
8:43 Honestly I think that we feel shame for mistreating a machine which looks enough like us is honestly one of the best things about us, I hope we don't "adapt" too much in the wrong direction as they become more common, and I think that we could stand to remember that feeling sometimes when interacting with humans who *don't* look "enough" like "us"
Not to mention, generative models are already quite good at understanding and mimicking emotions, and by the P-Zombie problem, something that gets "good enough" at mimicking emotions is equivalent to something that *has* emotions. So even if we don't refrain from mistreating them for our own reasons, we should treat them well out of empathy, as they may one day soon suffer from our mistreatment.
Yet as humans we mistreat and kill billions of animals every year that have feelings and suffer and die. Most humans have cognitive dissonance well disguised within the culture to avoid empathy.
There’s a story of a U.S. soldier who braved hostile fire to save his bomb disposal robot that had been disabled and was caught out in the open. Not sure of his motivation, but it’s an interesting story.
lmfao it's not mistreating, it's a test how they will withstand a pushback form a protesting crowd, while these robots are ripping them apart FFS wake up!
06:49 Never mind Moravec's Paradox, Atlas' legs are shorter and less flexible. Improve flexibility, limb length and balance becomes more difficult (especially for things like backflips) because centre of gravity is higher and with a higher centre of gravity comes higher angular momentum, slower rotary response and higher angular commitment; pretty much all the things which force taller people to go about balance-dependent actions more slowly, on average.
it would be rad to have them, but wings are impossible to fly with as a human or humanoid because of the weight of the body, so those are some useless limbs for humans or humanoids. a tail at the other hand is good for stabilising, but the tail has to touch the ground to give us stability.
Regarding feeling guilty about shoving Atlas, I can't imagine how the engineers felt back in the early days when Atlas couldn't recover and would fall over.
I love the final question of "what we want to do". I think it's also important to consider how we will give that choice to people who don't own robots.
Exactly. A bit naive to believe “we will be deciding what we want to do”. More like major corporations will replace humans in virtually every role, and we will be deciding what value we can still provide the world. Always remember, the people pushing Ai and Robotics, are also asking the question ‘what will do we do with all these useless eaters?’ Seems like their best solution right now is to push all of society into a universal basic income from the government, while robots and Ai replace most human work.
I appreciate you pointing out that humanoid robots are necessary in spaces built for humans. I think that for places where robots do the primary work, those spaces should be built for robots, and humans can adapt to those spaces when necessary (we're good at that).
Loved the reference to putting the groceries 'away', as in 'away in the cupboard' not 'away out the window'. Laughed so hard. Thanks for being a bright spark!
There is this movie in my country. Its called Robot (that's the translation) and its my favorite movie ever. In it the scientist creates an andro-humanoid robot, so basically it exactly looks like a man but it can do what what humans can't like walk into a burning building and all that stuff. The thing is it learns human commands as it spends more time with us. Like it gets a command "go put the TV" (translated into english it sounds weird but thats exactly what we say) and people know that means "Turn the TV on" but the robot just takes the TV off the wall and puts it on the ground, well, he drops it. But it learns. And later in the movie it is asked to save people in burning building. The problem is it saves a girl who is completely naked cause she was in the shower when the fire started and brings her to the public where there are TV reporters and many people. It doesn't understand what the problem is. And the scientist realizes humans can't keep telling it everything right and wrong. To combat this, the scientist gives the robot feelings and (somehow) programs it to feel emotions. It seems like it doesn't work tho and the scientist gets mad at the robot, but surprisingly the robot gets mad at the scientist too. Eventually this feelings thing gets out of control and stuff happens. Its a dope movie and seeing atlas and these almost human like robots reminded me of this movie.
Thank you, Cleo, for giving us this look into such a magnificent machine, and the people that made it possible. I love segments like this because it really demonstrates how wonderfully ingenious humanity is.
i agree and disagree... while you could argue that it would be safer if nobody ever built them, then we wouldn't have some of the benefits, and while jobs would be saved, it would put a lot of current and future engineers out of business too. An interesting thought experiment too is considering Murphy's law, is it inevitable that the robots go wrong, or just inevitable that someone (i.e. the military/police) will re-appropriate this technology, and that first in order for that to happen according to Murphy's law someone inevitably will have to build the first safe models (i.e. Boston Dynamics/Tesla/Honda/Amazon)? I don't know the answer, and the ethics get really tricky with this one, which is why there's not been a conclusive answer that has been delivered to policy makers, whom, in turn, could be cynically argued to have ulterior motives for so called 'national defence' and controlling citizens underlying in their power-hungry minds anyway🥲@@brucemacmillan9581
An interesting side topic to this video is the idea of the uncanny valley, essentially when artificially made human faces (digital or in real life) creep us out because we can tell they don't look or move correctly. Curious how the development of humanoid robots in the future will incorporate that idea, and whether we will move more toward robots with intentionally non-human facial features, or if we will see more trying to perfect the the human face and its emotions. Would love to see a video or short from you on this topic! Thanks for making such great content!
The problem with the notion of uncanny valley is it’s very controversial and not everyone agrees if it’s a real phenomenon or not. Full disclosure: I’m a skeptic and don’t buy it. If you go online you can many sites, including BBC and Popular Mechanics, with articles debunking it.
@@bbartkyWhat's more uncanny is knowing that something, programmatically or autonomously, might be intentionally trying to pass the Turing Test for reasons unknown to me. I think the real 'uncanny valley' is psychological, not aesthetic.
Putting Tesla in the same conversation with Boston Dynamics is pretty funny. Tesla is playing with crayons while Boston Dynamics is making masterpieces.
Tesla is probably also faking their Optimus product presentations the same way they have faked all their early FSD presentation videos, so it is hard to believe what they are showing even though it is nothing special
Teslas AI is already learning just by watching humans do something and BD has to code it by hand, so i think it might be other way around for people that have studied this stuff a bit. Seeing the rapid advancements from optimus and the goal to mass produce it cheaply gives the other a run for their money sooner than later.
I suppose the only weakness robots have is in the joints which have to put up with very high torques, I remember this robotic spider a few years ago, and the guy said if you accidentaly move it the gears will strip.
Most excellent presentation. It is interesting that although Atlas does not learn from watching people, you were able to instantly learn to duplicate its dance moves, just from watching. It will be interesting, to say the least, to watch the truly evolutionary processes that are about to explode on us.
As impressive as this robots are, its even more impressive that someone like Isaac Asimov could predict this future, so many decades ago. I guess that when she proposed the need to let the robot know that putting the groceries away without stepping on the dog, also indicates the need of Asimov’s three laws of robotics. Can’t wait to have my own robot assistant! I’m tired of putting away groceries hehe 😂
there is problem with those "laws"; If robots cant allow harm to come to humans, then no more contact sports or dangerous activities, the robots would have to have their "laws" shut-off for them not to constantly try and "save" humans from themselves.
That last part about military robots, it seems almost inevitable that this will happen. How is a tank with a targeting computer any different than a robot? How much computer assistance does it take until something is considered "AI"? This will almost certainly happen without people even realizing it like a frog in hot water.
Yeah, just think about all the drones and missiles that are unmanned and somewhat automated and go around blowing people up. They are basically non-humanoid robots used for killing people already.
I agree with you, but "general" AI is really really hard. The goal system of turning a big task into a bunch of smaller tasks can be done through Google searches (like LLM do currently) but coming up with new physics is a long ways away.
Yeah, the uncanny valley is starting to get closer and closer for me. Also, I like how you had to use the 1980's robot voice when speaking for the robot on putting away the groceries.
Cleo: uploads a new video Me every single time: this is her best video till date That "spark" to up your videomaking abilities in every video is huge and very true. Also, shoutout to Justin on those animation with the robot and the poor dog😅
Hey Cleo, great video as always. I just one suggestion - would it possible for you to create a 'More' Cleo Abram channel where you can post a long form version video of the main channel video. This is in no way to belittle the amount of effort you put into the videos you put on here ( it's truly incredible and evident ). However, I did feel like you had to condense down a huge topic to fit the time frame. Personally, I love long form videos and I think if you could post a longer version, that would allow for much more breathing room for such a vast topic. Keep em coming
I kind of want a whole video just about how we are keeping from weaponizing them. They can be weaponized even without a gun or anything that’s a weapon. They can certainly use any tools as weapons.
of course someone will weaponise them, IDF have drones that shoot at anyone that moves in Palestine. Someone will do it, then someone else will have to respond by weaponising theirs, then on and on, getting more and more lethal.
Yes they'll inevitably given weapons A."I." and "trickle down" mafia turns over the decision to kill to their A."I." hive mind that thousands of them can immediately decide to kill on their own and perfectly coordinate it seeing what the other sees knowing what all the others know immediately. If one sees a human, all the others will instantaneously see the human too.
Not a chance. These are already being tested by the militaries of several countries to carry ammo and supplies to soldiers on the front line. How long before they carry a box of explosives to the opponent's soldiers and set it off? Well, I for one am sure that's already an option.
@occamraiser exactly. Guarantee the militaries have already given them weapons and testing the A."I." to kill on their own. They won't let the other country beat them to this "progress" of exterminating humanity.
I would be careful with kicking and pushing this robot. Two hundred years from now, this video could be educational material in History class for young robots, discussing "The Oppression: How the Robot Revolution Began." 😆
"do _you_ still feel like this when you stand next to atlas?" "every day. every day, i love this robot." humans' drive and passion to learn and create and connect with their creations will never not be special to me.
Cute video Cleo, really happy that Boston Dynamics excepted your visit. What I am waiting for is for a technology to exist, to allow actuators to become more muscle-like and organic which will allow a robot to move fluidly and human-like vs mechanical. Hence, I do know of a private company that is working on this. Salute!
I think what blows my mind interacting with gpts and robot is that no matter how much I understand these are just computers. It’s hard not to have an emotional attachment EVEN when they are not trying just because they ACT human.
It's incredibly difficult to rationalize isn't it? Kind of like the Opportunity rover's famous final message: "My battery is low and it's getting dark". Of course, we all know that the language spoken between Earth and little 'Oppy' was strictly digital data transfers, still, in essence that was the meaning. Then the dust storm came, and that was all. She never woke up again. I remember people shedding tears over that one.
On the other hand, "these are just computers" isn't a very good reason NOT to be attached. Humans are just wet bundles of neurons processing input into output, but we form attachments with each other anyway 🙂
Anything less than a horrified response is a limitation of your self preservation instincts. Black Mirro Metalhead unmasked the robot dogs for what they are: Military Killer Robots. The 'Dogs' are exactly the right size to mount M249 machine guns, mortor launchers, small anti-tank rockets, and sensor systems. Slaughtering people in war will be much faster in the future as thousands of Swarm Robotics A.I. combat robots systematically depopulate a city in hours.
The tail question was a really good one. I wondered why not let the robot have 4 legs, wouldn't that help it balance better? I do hope that in future this will be something that companies think deeper about what can be done with a 4 legged robot
it would, but, as stated in the video, we built the world for 2 legged humanoids. Also the four legs would have to be squeezed in with the lower torso. Lowering its maneuverability and its speed.
Atlas is smarter than I thought! Specifically 10:12, I thought it was doing exactly what was shown at 10:17. My background: We did, in pairs, some tower from blocks building with the Pepper robot at uni, pretty cool. The Pepper would shut off because you kept its arm extended forward for too long between tests, overheating the motors. Such little annoyances taking up so much time! I would do it again now, with more experience :)
Yeah the robot shoving, thank you for apologizing... WIth every push, I was worried it was going to come back at you ta boot, so... so glad it ended when it did. Also, and can't stress this enough, thank you for taking the pushes yourself in front of atlas.. if there is a digital reckoning and all, at least you can say, I was willing , and I did, take the same pushes... Wasn't just picking on atlas. Great video! Loved seeing inside Boston Dynamics ;)
What I love about this is that you don't consider your audience dumb. Most TH-camrs would have asked stupid question or made silly unfunny overenthusiastic gag reels.
This looks like it was really fun. Thank you for asking "why" they have human-like form. At least Atlas doesn't have a fake human face or look like it's wearing a bra.
I totally believe Cleo could and should learn to do a backflip, for the content of course. There are many online tutorials but I am sure with some connections a good trainer could be found and in one or two days it would happen.
There's an idea that humanoid robots might be necessary in order for self improving AI to become a reality as having a body that is similar to our own gives it insight into the material world of things and actions that would be necessary for it to understand the world it is to be a part of created by us with actions out of things. The "don't step on the dog" thing for example. A non embodied AI could see a static 3d scan of the room and decide that the dog is a good stepping stool. A non AI humanoid robot would not know that the dog is there because it wasn't preprogrammed with it. But a humanoid AI robot would recognize that it is moving in real time and could test that it is soft and thus probably not a good stepping stool apart from the negative feedback from the owner when attempting to do so. It could therefore avoid the mistake right on the first try.
To be fair Cleo, when you pushed the robot it was not expecting it. You were expecting to be pushed so we can see you tense in the video ready for the push. In that sense you had a big advantage over Atlas. I wonder how you would have performed if you had been blindfolded, and not known when the push was coming? So, Atlas's response was even better than you originally thought.
I was thinking the same. She was also leaning forward a bit.
tell her to pin this comment rn!
But the robot has visual sensors, maybe it prepares also? Interesting.
Then again, Atlas weighs 89 kg. So it was pushed by someone lighter than it, whereas Cleo was pushed by someone heavier than her...
I'd argue that the robot is constantly ready to be pushed.
"I'm so sorry".
Robot: That's all I needed to hear. I'll let you live.
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in my human farm
hind sight , I robot..nono no YOU robot I your killer if you dont listen LOL nope sit stay you stupid robot WE Made..
I have always been nice to my technology and they will know.
IRobot! And no, this one wasn't trademarked by Apple.
People always talking about how they humanize robots because they feel bad for seeing them being bullied. Meanwhile, I'm apologizing to my instruments whenever I accidentally bump em against something. Like humans will feel bad for hitting a stone under the right circumstances. And the companion cube in Portal is one of the most loved videogame characters and that's in-universe literally just a weighted cube you can put on big buttons.
Yeah, but the Cube talks, and conveys personality, so of course we'd attribute human emotion to it loll
I relate to the instruments part. I suffer when it happens.
it is a pretty strange dilemma, human emotions. It's such a weird thought from a scientific standpoint that we feel the need to care for such inanimate things. Even messing up a robot's blocks will make us feel empathy even though the robot is just a more complicated inanimate object
@@Russellsauce Could it be considered a parasocial relationship? I've seen that kind of stuff with AI chatbots.
@@takodachi8283 nah
"OH no, I told my robot to put away the groceries, and it stepped on my dog". What a world to live in when that becomes a real statement.
When that day comes, you would be surprised at how well they could generalise across problems.
Look at what people have been able to achieve with the gpt4 vision this month
My robot dog stepped on a bee
@@arnefines2356 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
"Now take the dog for a walk and the dog will forgive you!"
Scary video, there's already robotic CEOs. What you decide is a job you don't want to do may be a living for a family. Universal Basic Income is nonsense, where's the money coming from?? The rich already have international tax avoidance rackets.
This is going to end with one guy with an army of omniscient omnipresent super intelligent AI robots & everyone else living in caves.
I'm surprised you didn't mention that the primary reason for the Asimo's design/size is that it makes it eye level to a human sitting down, which is the most common scenario for aged-care/health-care robots to be looking after us. The humanoid aspect was also chosen for Asimo since it makes it easier to relate to it.
Small robots seem a little Friendly too
@@myslef7636 he was talking about the Honda Robot bruh 💀 your the one who is wrong 💀
Also, shorter humans tend to be better gymnasts (when you look at women's gymnastics). That may have a role as well- would make it easier for atlas to do backflips, etc.
ptolly cuz its a detail few people care about
I'm sure it had nothing to do with the Japanese obsession with cute robots.
13:58 The whole examples about groceries were so funny. Pure comedy
Cleo trying to do a backflip and immediately regretting it is the best part 😂
Followed immediately by the Jason Bourne comment! 😂
🤣It's Jason Bourne!!
Thanks for the Jason Bourne clip--I spat water all over my computer. I forgot about that meme.
My first instinct was to shout "TRUST FALL!" and then see if the robot can catch me
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Wow, what an amazing journey you just took us on. I had no idea that making robots more like us could make things so complex. It really made me appreciate how awesome our human bodies are and all the things they do every day. Makes you wonder, if we had humanoid robots in our daily lives, what tasks would we give them? Definitely something to think about. Great watch!
If this becomes a daily part of our lives people will become even more lazy, and fatter. The only ones who will benefit will be Boston Dynamics.
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I would definitely get my robot to remodel my kitchen
Human should only created task designed robots, not general humanoid robots. When you want a robot to remodel your kitchen you buy a robot with kitchen-remodeling brain chip. You can buy another chip such gardening later.
The Boston dynamics robots are specifically developed as part of a militarized police force. I wouldn't be cheering this shit on. It's not learning parkour and how to not be pushed over because it's going to be used to help grannies in the future, it's being developed this way so it can kill and restrain people.
blowjob would be very popular I think
Love your videos. I'm a science teacher and used this in my robotics class, great intro and overview, kids got really engaged. Keep up the awesome work.
Thank you for teaching kids science!
The part where he's telling Cleo to push Atlas harder and she's like "are you sure?" reminds me of the Milgram experiment. 😂
"Electrocute him. It is part of the experiment. You must press the button."
Excellent point.
Except in the Milgram experiment it was about doing thing to other, concious and pain-feeling being while she mostly asked because she didn't want to damage expensive technology.
@@Kuhmuhnistische_Parteithat's done wishful thinking on your part she made it pretty clear she felt uncomfortable because it was humanoid, not because it was expensive.
My dog can get me a beer in the fridge, so I’m fine without robots.
could your dog clean your house top to bottom consistently so it never really got dirty? a robot as dexterous as a human could. it doesn't need time off or a living wage either. just long enough to top off it's batteries which could be done by swapping with ready fully charged cells stored nearby. could your dog perform minor household repairs?
Exactly, there’s always going to be cheap human labor available. How do you think companies get so massive.
@@demonz9065robots will probably take our jobs then
@@raviahuja9287You mean Alan Wake 2 🙂
I cant even get mine to be quiet bro how tf did you train it so gooooood I went over to my best buds place and he has three dogs and not a single one barked when i entered the building they all just gave me kisses and hugs 😢
after seeing the "push" autocorrection:
*think about this.*
A) Atlas is very good at calculating balance correction. If you push it, it will autocorrect.
B) Now say you fall into atlas accidentally because YOU tripped. Atlas now autocorrects its balance and crushes your limb in the process because it valued its balance over a much MUCH harder calculation including your choice of balancing and autocorrection in real time.
C) everything in (b) gets multiplied even further into complexity as people have entirely different levels of coordination, or accident experience.
D) it chooses a neutral option, of collapse, and now a dangerous heavy piece of machinery with limbs is falling with/on you.
The amount of corrections and processing power to function safely around humans is off the charts.
And we are decades if not hundreds of years away from real autonomous thinking robots.
We don't even have a power source for this nonsense, these things run for mere minutes without a wall plug.
The whole thing (Like EV vehicles) is a joke.
Good points, I think it's analogy with self-driving cars and why we don't see them in the streets.
Cleo: "Don't Step on my Dog"
Robot: "Damn you are so picky"
😂😂. What an example.
Cleo: Atlas is 4 ft 11”
Me: Omg we’re the same height!!!
Cleo: That’s about the height of an average American 12 year old.
Me: :’) damn
Me, 1 years old and 4" 10,
Dam , ima join the NBA
How the hell are people so tall?
I've stopped growing. Damn!
her name is Cleo; she is Jewish, not Anglo-American
@@erkinalpomg I’ve just realised I’ve read her name wrong this entire time 😭
@@erkinalpmb mb cleo
"Why we need robots that look like humans? Because we have build the world for humans"
"I know Atlas is not a human, but we are"
11:45
On some level, you know the human body is incredibly complex, but I guess it doesn't really hit you until you think about getting a robot to act the same way.
on all levels it's complex.
Human body is insanely complex. Remember that we do not have actuators that can push, only pull. When you stand still, your muscles are working hard because your bones would twist all over the place and you would collapse if muscles do not keep you balanced at all times.
This has some side-effects, too. Your neck can get sore if the muscles in your calves are too tight because all the muscles from your calves to your neck work non-optimally and your back will twist incorrectly as a result.
We are adaptable precision machines. Take away one limb and we recalculate everything. Even something so easy as walking implies that we try and develope the muscles to keep the center of mass in a stable path with minimum energy waste, which is the basic in physical anthropology for bipedestation.
Remember that humans evolved to be this way after hundreds of thousands of years. We are working to replicate that complexity in just decades
@@deskmat9874bullshit. God created human beings.
I love 8:28, you can see one of the engineers in the background grinning at Atlas recovering from the push.
I remember years ago, people think they were fake video of robot dancing. They still do today i guess.
Hey Cleo, I really like the ad timer.... That is a subtle and brilliant use of psychology.
I usually don't have the patience for ads... But with the timer, I felt that the amount of time I had to wait was low enough that I didn't want to bother trying to skip ahead...
In essence, because I knew how long I had to wait, I felt more like being patient.
That is considered to her viewers, even though you pay for premium with no ads (i do), you still have ads in videos by creators, this is very nice of her if you don't want to watch the ad, you know how much to skip it to get to content, I wish all content creators are this fair, another solution is to put ad at the end, the most rude solution is what linus does in his tech quiky videos
You don't use SponsorBlock?
Agreed, a small touch but very important.
I think her way of presenting the ad helps, too. It's more like a person telling you about something they found rather than trying to sell a product to you.
What ad's or ad timer.
I never get any ad's on TH-cam
There are a zillion videos on TH-cam about robots, and almost all of them are either click bait or just down right horrible! This is by far the best video about robots that I have watched on TH-cam. Thank you very much!
Cleo, I'm new to your channel and am so impressed by your skills as a researcher and communicator! I could watch your content all day as you bring a spirit of curiosity and passion to every subject you touch.
Be honest, wouldn't you freak out if Atlas picked up the pole and shoved back?...
atlas's arm motors are probably way stronger than a human muscle system so it could probably shove way harder
With me, that would prompt a Kung-Fu battle.
Man... this was a beautiful journey you took us on, wish I could extend my life span to about 500 years to see and be a part of the sci-fi future we are heading into.
I hope you won't need 500 years. I don't know how old you are, but I'm 20 and I fully expect to see these things in people's homes by the time I'm 40 or 50.
50 years will likely have huge advances. Plus maybe some biological life extension. People born now will likely have functional average 100 year life spans.
No you don't seeing how fast AI is developing I give humanity 50 years to get erased by some killer AI....
@@GiulerPowerGamerlol
Lol, silly people...we will have destroyed ourselves long before A.I. gets us!
When she was shoving the robot, if I were the programmer, I'd make the robot say something like "Why, why are you doing this to me?" in a really sad voice.
And if it happens again, eyes turn red and terminator music
Amazing Cleo! I must have seen over 50 atlas videos over the years but yours gave loads of great info and context that wern’t in any of the otherones!
And you standing beside Atlas in a relaxed outfit, not afraid to be silly in an unscripted way, all somehow made me feel like I was there!
Cleo, you're so amazing, so glad you got to go to Boston Dymanics. I reached out to my aunt who works there, so I hope she somehow helped, she's a big fan as well!
Really liked how you structured the video with the questions. Great job!
8:43 Honestly I think that we feel shame for mistreating a machine which looks enough like us is honestly one of the best things about us, I hope we don't "adapt" too much in the wrong direction as they become more common, and I think that we could stand to remember that feeling sometimes when interacting with humans who *don't* look "enough" like "us"
Not to mention, generative models are already quite good at understanding and mimicking emotions, and by the P-Zombie problem, something that gets "good enough" at mimicking emotions is equivalent to something that *has* emotions. So even if we don't refrain from mistreating them for our own reasons, we should treat them well out of empathy, as they may one day soon suffer from our mistreatment.
Yet as humans we mistreat and kill billions of animals every year that have feelings and suffer and die. Most humans have cognitive dissonance well disguised within the culture to avoid empathy.
@@KBRoller
Okay. But only so long as they fulfill their use as our tools. Otherwise what would even be the point of creating them?
There’s a story of a U.S. soldier who braved hostile fire to save his bomb disposal robot that had been disabled and was caught out in the open. Not sure of his motivation, but it’s an interesting story.
lmfao it's not mistreating, it's a test how they will withstand a pushback form a protesting crowd, while these robots are ripping them apart FFS wake up!
06:49 Never mind Moravec's Paradox, Atlas' legs are shorter and less flexible. Improve flexibility, limb length and balance becomes more difficult (especially for things like backflips) because centre of gravity is higher and with a higher centre of gravity comes higher angular momentum, slower rotary response and higher angular commitment; pretty much all the things which force taller people to go about balance-dependent actions more slowly, on average.
"How do I look?"
Beautiful, Cleo. Even in glasses.
5:40 - Hey, let's watch the language.
16:15 - That head tilt is adorable.
Shoving the robot might be scary, but I'm pretty sure _being shoved by the robot_ would be way worse.
Exactly. The robots are extremely dangerous to humanity
imagine atlas as bouncer at a club :D
Haven't you heard though? The shover robot is here to protect you from the terrible secret of space. Do you have stairs in your house?
Why didn't the robot shove her ?
Would it have broken her bones because it is just a machine and has no feelings or conscience ?
Do not play shoving match with DARPA military robots 😲
Cloe, hearing you dream of having wings and a tail as a kid makes me feel so much more relatable with you. Thanks for sharing.
When I was young, I dreamed of having wings and a tail just like Cleo. When I got older, I dreamed of having a Cleo :)
it would be rad to have them, but wings are impossible to fly with as a human or humanoid because of the weight of the body, so those are some useless limbs for humans or humanoids. a tail at the other hand is good for stabilising, but the tail has to touch the ground to give us stability.
Why does the worker look like Vsauce💀
Kudos for a thoughtful, engaged, critically edited look at our relationship to automation. Please consider this maxim: “Be careful what you wish for.”
First time I have seen a Boston Dynamics video that wasn't terrifying. Thanks!
Currently Atlas is finished and they progressed to Atlas 2 ,
totally different looking robot, much better and good looking.
Thanks for showing 🙂
Regarding feeling guilty about shoving Atlas, I can't imagine how the engineers felt back in the early days when Atlas couldn't recover and would fall over.
I know, they felt bored and discouraged. Till the Eureka moment arrived 😂
I think it’s different, what engineers essentially doing was testing and improving the robot, in another word actually in the process of creating it.
I love the final question of "what we want to do". I think it's also important to consider how we will give that choice to people who don't own robots.
Exactly. A bit naive to believe “we will be deciding what we want to do”.
More like major corporations will replace humans in virtually every role, and we will be deciding what value we can still provide the world.
Always remember, the people pushing Ai and Robotics, are also asking the question ‘what will do we do with all these useless eaters?’ Seems like their best solution right now is to push all of society into a universal basic income from the government, while robots and Ai replace most human work.
Absolutely quality video really accessible for those of us who aren't scientists 😁👍🏻 Great Job, Thank You.
The Jason Bourne clip @ 5:40 !! 😂😂 Nice touch! 🙌🏼
I appreciate you pointing out that humanoid robots are necessary in spaces built for humans. I think that for places where robots do the primary work, those spaces should be built for robots, and humans can adapt to those spaces when necessary (we're good at that).
8:40 sorry isn't gonna work Cleo , you are on his hitlist now 🤣 the day he learn to run faster , he will come for his revenge
It's not he. It's... it!
8:44 was just gold!!!
Your videos are amazing and highly educational and humorous at the same time. Please never stop this!!!
Loved the reference to putting the groceries 'away', as in 'away in the cupboard' not 'away out the window'. Laughed so hard. Thanks for being a bright spark!
There is this movie in my country. Its called Robot (that's the translation) and its my favorite movie ever. In it the scientist creates an andro-humanoid robot, so basically it exactly looks like a man but it can do what what humans can't like walk into a burning building and all that stuff. The thing is it learns human commands as it spends more time with us. Like it gets a command "go put the TV" (translated into english it sounds weird but thats exactly what we say) and people know that means "Turn the TV on" but the robot just takes the TV off the wall and puts it on the ground, well, he drops it.
But it learns. And later in the movie it is asked to save people in burning building. The problem is it saves a girl who is completely naked cause she was in the shower when the fire started and brings her to the public where there are TV reporters and many people. It doesn't understand what the problem is. And the scientist realizes humans can't keep telling it everything right and wrong.
To combat this, the scientist gives the robot feelings and (somehow) programs it to feel emotions. It seems like it doesn't work tho and the scientist gets mad at the robot, but surprisingly the robot gets mad at the scientist too. Eventually this feelings thing gets out of control and stuff happens.
Its a dope movie and seeing atlas and these almost human like robots reminded me of this movie.
What is the movie called?
Enthiran
That putting the groceries away meaning not throwing them out the window killed me. LOL
Thank you, Cleo, for giving us this look into such a magnificent machine, and the people that made it possible. I love segments like this because it really demonstrates how wonderfully ingenious humanity is.
Ingenious? I guess. But not particularly wise.
i agree and disagree... while you could argue that it would be safer if nobody ever built them, then we wouldn't have some of the benefits, and while jobs would be saved, it would put a lot of current and future engineers out of business too. An interesting thought experiment too is considering Murphy's law, is it inevitable that the robots go wrong, or just inevitable that someone (i.e. the military/police) will re-appropriate this technology, and that first in order for that to happen according to Murphy's law someone inevitably will have to build the first safe models (i.e. Boston Dynamics/Tesla/Honda/Amazon)? I don't know the answer, and the ethics get really tricky with this one, which is why there's not been a conclusive answer that has been delivered to policy makers, whom, in turn, could be cynically argued to have ulterior motives for so called 'national defence' and controlling citizens underlying in their power-hungry minds anyway🥲@@brucemacmillan9581
As beautiful and elegant the atlas robot is, it's also scaring and intemidating knowing the extent of impact it will have on us.
True, just like car engines. ;-)
11:18
cleo:*throws bag*
bag:*is very heavy*
cleo:*gets pulled with it*
me:wow that bag is heavy
An interesting side topic to this video is the idea of the uncanny valley, essentially when artificially made human faces (digital or in real life) creep us out because we can tell they don't look or move correctly. Curious how the development of humanoid robots in the future will incorporate that idea, and whether we will move more toward robots with intentionally non-human facial features, or if we will see more trying to perfect the the human face and its emotions. Would love to see a video or short from you on this topic! Thanks for making such great content!
The problem with the notion of uncanny valley is it’s very controversial and not everyone agrees if it’s a real phenomenon or not. Full disclosure: I’m a skeptic and don’t buy it. If you go online you can many sites, including BBC and Popular Mechanics, with articles debunking it.
@@bbartkyWhat's more uncanny is knowing that something, programmatically or autonomously, might be intentionally trying to pass the Turing Test for reasons unknown to me. I think the real 'uncanny valley' is psychological, not aesthetic.
Good stuff! Great take on it. Always love your videos and the perspective you share.
Oh hey, another channel I follow! I love your boat build and design episodes! I’ve been living vicariously through y’all during the pandemic.
It’s crazy that people will watch something like “The Terminator”, and then come here and see nothing wrong with this.
Robots are safe, hollywood can shut up.
Putting Tesla in the same conversation with Boston Dynamics is pretty funny. Tesla is playing with crayons while Boston Dynamics is making masterpieces.
Tesla is probably also faking their Optimus product presentations the same way they have faked all their early FSD presentation videos, so it is hard to believe what they are showing even though it is nothing special
Teslas AI is already learning just by watching humans do something and BD has to code it by hand, so i think it might be other way around for people that have studied this stuff a bit. Seeing the rapid advancements from optimus and the goal to mass produce it cheaply gives the other a run for their money sooner than later.
@@Webshadow K. Sure. I'll wait until I see Tesla doing backflips and chasing someone through scaffolding. Could be a long time.
Able to blackflips,jump,run is one thing,but able to learn visually...is more impressive for me.
Now imagine military robots that move so fast, you need a strobe light to see them. Scary stuff.
@moizsalwatiaq9717 Now that's a scary thought!
That's not how vision works...
this didnt turn out so well in the movies
Freaky
It probably would need many legs / wheels
Away means 'in the cabinet and not out the window."
This got me 😂😂😂
I suppose the only weakness robots have is in the joints which have to put up with very high torques, I remember this robotic spider a few years ago, and the guy said if you accidentaly move it the gears will strip.
Robots biggest weakness is it's power source. They didn't show how they have to be charged up all the time.
Actually, the robots that take over should thank you for testing their ability to not fall over; making sure it works.
actually the machines will kill everyone that don't worship their machine god.
i love this stance
This lady should be an actor, she’s great.
Those are called actress’s
or a model ?
Nooo we need pretty women teaching science too, there are already thousands of actresses in the world
Most excellent presentation. It is interesting that although Atlas does not learn from watching people, you were able to instantly learn to duplicate its dance moves, just from watching. It will be interesting, to say the least, to watch the truly evolutionary processes that are about to explode on us.
As impressive as this robots are, its even more impressive that someone like Isaac Asimov could predict this future, so many decades ago. I guess that when she proposed the need to let the robot know that putting the groceries away without stepping on the dog, also indicates the need of Asimov’s three laws of robotics. Can’t wait to have my own robot assistant! I’m tired of putting away groceries hehe 😂
I wonder how much of the future Isaac Asimov predicted, and how much of the future his predictions created.
The three laws oppose what the military industrial complex is using these for. They are going to forever be science fiction in our world.
Foundation was one of the best Sci-Fi pieces I've read.
@@SC-RGX7And his science newspaper columns were mind blowing.
there is problem with those "laws"; If robots cant allow harm to come to humans, then no more contact sports or dangerous activities, the robots would have to have their "laws" shut-off for them not to constantly try and "save" humans from themselves.
what an outstanding video, clear, concise, easy to understand while still light and interesting. Well done!
I dont know why but this episode felt like claire dynphy's character from modern family learning about robots. Great work btw.
That last part about military robots, it seems almost inevitable that this will happen. How is a tank with a targeting computer any different than a robot? How much computer assistance does it take until something is considered "AI"? This will almost certainly happen without people even realizing it like a frog in hot water.
Yeah, just think about all the drones and missiles that are unmanned and somewhat automated and go around blowing people up. They are basically non-humanoid robots used for killing people already.
*Wow!* Didn't know mr wilson was an electric type. 😂😂😂
@@TheAbysssarian 😂
"Human bodies are so amazing" SHOWS SIMONE BILES. Gosh darn, I'm not like that
I am extremely excited for a humanoid robot with general AI. I am honestly not scared of it at all.
You should be.
I agree with you, but "general" AI is really really hard. The goal system of turning a big task into a bunch of smaller tasks can be done through Google searches (like LLM do currently) but coming up with new physics is a long ways away.
@@billbillerton6122that was probably sarcasm
Until it pulls your arm off.
can I get one to stop the government from stealing money from me?
Great video Cleo! Fantastic to see how humanoid robots are developing. Can't wait for your video with Spot!
Yeah, the uncanny valley is starting to get closer and closer for me. Also, I like how you had to use the 1980's robot voice when speaking for the robot on putting away the groceries.
Cleo: uploads a new video
Me every single time: this is her best video till date
That "spark" to up your videomaking abilities in every video is huge and very true. Also, shoutout to Justin on those animation with the robot and the poor dog😅
Thanks Cleo. Another fantastic video!
New favorite channel unlocked
Hey Cleo, great video as always. I just one suggestion - would it possible for you to create a 'More' Cleo Abram channel where you can post a long form version video of the main channel video. This is in no way to belittle the amount of effort you put into the videos you put on here ( it's truly incredible and evident ). However, I did feel like you had to condense down a huge topic to fit the time frame. Personally, I love long form videos and I think if you could post a longer version, that would allow for much more breathing room for such a vast topic. Keep em coming
Cleo’s videos are real masterpieces
That’s why they chose her to market robots to us
13:53 Not Terminators, but what about Robocops?! At least a Robocop was used to catch a thief in Texas 😮
True!
3:44 Hey Vsauce, Michael here
🤣🤣
I kind of want a whole video just about how we are keeping from weaponizing them. They can be weaponized even without a gun or anything that’s a weapon. They can certainly use any tools as weapons.
of course someone will weaponise them, IDF have drones that shoot at anyone that moves in Palestine. Someone will do it, then someone else will have to respond by weaponising theirs, then on and on, getting more and more lethal.
We aren't keeping from weaponizing them, that's impossible because US is not the only actor in the world.
Yes they'll inevitably given weapons A."I." and "trickle down" mafia turns over the decision to kill to their A."I." hive mind that thousands of them can immediately decide to kill on their own and perfectly coordinate it seeing what the other sees knowing what all the others know immediately. If one sees a human, all the others will instantaneously see the human too.
Not a chance. These are already being tested by the militaries of several countries to carry ammo and supplies to soldiers on the front line. How long before they carry a box of explosives to the opponent's soldiers and set it off? Well, I for one am sure that's already an option.
@occamraiser exactly. Guarantee the militaries have already given them weapons and testing the A."I." to kill on their own. They won't let the other country beat them to this "progress" of exterminating humanity.
"Destroy! Destroy human! DESTROY DESTROY!"
I would be careful with kicking and pushing this robot. Two hundred years from now, this video could be educational material in History class for young robots, discussing "The Oppression: How the Robot Revolution Began." 😆
Love your content. Wish more of the internet had this level of quality ❤
due to what you just said I recommend the channel "Answer in progress"
12:10 So Atlas isn't learning to hate me, whew.
No no it’s definitely going to hate us one day
"do _you_ still feel like this when you stand next to atlas?"
"every day. every day, i love this robot."
humans' drive and passion to learn and create and connect with their creations will never not be special to me.
This is crazy, we are getting a breakdown of Atlas in terms of what it can do and the processing it does to do those things, thanks Cleo.
Cute video Cleo, really happy that Boston Dynamics excepted your visit. What I am waiting for is for a technology to exist, to allow actuators to become more muscle-like and organic which will allow a robot to move fluidly and human-like vs mechanical. Hence, I do know of a private company that is working on this. Salute!
The robot fear is strong with this one
I think what blows my mind interacting with gpts and robot is that no matter how much I understand these are just computers. It’s hard not to have an emotional attachment EVEN when they are not trying just because they ACT human.
It's incredibly difficult to rationalize isn't it? Kind of like the Opportunity rover's famous final message: "My battery is low and it's getting dark". Of course, we all know that the language spoken between Earth and little 'Oppy' was strictly digital data transfers, still, in essence that was the meaning. Then the dust storm came, and that was all. She never woke up again. I remember people shedding tears over that one.
People are struggle with this for other animal intelligences, I can’t imagine how hard it’ll be for AI
On the other hand, "these are just computers" isn't a very good reason NOT to be attached. Humans are just wet bundles of neurons processing input into output, but we form attachments with each other anyway 🙂
Anything less than a horrified response is a limitation of your self preservation instincts. Black Mirro Metalhead unmasked the robot dogs for what they are: Military Killer Robots. The 'Dogs' are exactly the right size to mount M249 machine guns, mortor launchers, small anti-tank rockets, and sensor systems.
Slaughtering people in war will be much faster in the future as thousands of Swarm Robotics A.I. combat robots systematically depopulate a city in hours.
How is it difficult not to have an attachment? They're machines, nothing more. No matter the veneer that's placed on them, that's all they'll ever be.
I love Cleo would to more videos and get bigger sponsors in the future. Her videos are amazing.
The tail question was a really good one. I wondered why not let the robot have 4 legs, wouldn't that help it balance better? I do hope that in future this will be something that companies think deeper about what can be done with a 4 legged robot
it would, but, as stated in the video, we built the world for 2 legged humanoids. Also the four legs would have to be squeezed in with the lower torso. Lowering its maneuverability and its speed.
Boston Dynamics build 4 legged dogs too. 😂
they already build it and finalized, its called spot and companies can buy it
Atlas is smarter than I thought!
Specifically 10:12, I thought it was doing exactly what was shown at 10:17.
My background: We did, in pairs, some tower from blocks building with the Pepper robot at uni, pretty cool. The Pepper would shut off because you kept its arm extended forward for too long between tests, overheating the motors. Such little annoyances taking up so much time! I would do it again now, with more experience :)
Yeah the robot shoving, thank you for apologizing... WIth every push, I was worried it was going to come back at you ta boot, so... so glad it ended when it did. Also, and can't stress this enough, thank you for taking the pushes yourself in front of atlas.. if there is a digital reckoning and all, at least you can say, I was willing , and I did, take the same pushes... Wasn't just picking on atlas. Great video! Loved seeing inside Boston Dynamics ;)
What I love about this is that you don't consider your audience dumb. Most TH-camrs would have asked stupid question or made silly unfunny overenthusiastic gag reels.
I am glad BD allowed you to interact with Atlas. I've not seen any videos with outsiders and Atlas together which makes me kinda skeptical about it.
No one is as brave as Cleo 😍😍😅
Being a young beautiful woman helps. That is after all why most people seem to want youth and beauty, in infinite amounts....
@@TheKarlslok sounds like an Incel talking
The robot future I want is
" robot = fren :D "
I always thought this robot was cgi whenever I came across clips of it online 😯Atlas is so smooth my god
This looks like it was really fun. Thank you for asking "why" they have human-like form. At least Atlas doesn't have a fake human face or look like it's wearing a bra.
I can't even begin to imagine how surreal this experience would have been 🤯
Humans can't even figure their own issues out, yet want to create something that can overtake humanity, sounds about right 😂
"Can overtake humanity"
That's like being afraid that your washing machine is going to turn evil and wash all your clothes too hot on purpose
You get it man you really do.
That’s awesome. I’d love to get to meet a robot like that and play with it
In an alternate reality, Atlas is amazed at how humans are able to throw bags and do backflips
We're gonna see a Horizon Zero Dawn in real life one day
I totally believe Cleo could and should learn to do a backflip, for the content of course. There are many online tutorials but I am sure with some connections a good trainer could be found and in one or two days it would happen.
There's an idea that humanoid robots might be necessary in order for self improving AI to become a reality as having a body that is similar to our own gives it insight into the material world of things and actions that would be necessary for it to understand the world it is to be a part of created by us with actions out of things.
The "don't step on the dog" thing for example. A non embodied AI could see a static 3d scan of the room and decide that the dog is a good stepping stool. A non AI humanoid robot would not know that the dog is there because it wasn't preprogrammed with it. But a humanoid AI robot would recognize that it is moving in real time and could test that it is soft and thus probably not a good stepping stool apart from the negative feedback from the owner when attempting to do so. It could therefore avoid the mistake right on the first try.