@@insertnamehere9950At the end of the video he says that Brady and Gronk wanted to sign with the Raiders but Gruden blew up the trade and they went to Tampa instead.
This is definitely the biggest Super Bowl hangover of all time, not only that the Radiers went 4-12 the previous year but the Raiders only made the playoffs only twice in the past 22 years now. This is a franchise that still hasn't recovered from this Super Bowl loss way back on 2003 against Tampa Bay
@@mike045742000-2002 was their window. They unfortunately fell victim to a questionable call, and ran into two great defenses. Like even if Rich Gannon doesn't get hurt against Ravens, I don't think the Raiders win. Maybe they score seven more points, but that still wouldn't have been enough.
What about the runner ups? We all agree that the most important position in football is the quarterback. Fun fact: there has never been a quarterback to retire before the end of the next season after losing the Super Bowl
The Washington Redskins/Football Team/Commanders while having the worst front office in the league, have had more playoff appearances than the Raiders have had since this Super Bowl loss.
Raiders and Redskins fans have experienced a similar kind of pain to each other. Decades since being truly relevant, but still being considered historic franchises.
12:04 can’t forget the 2015 broncos currently at 8 years and counting. At their current pace those 2015 broncos might end up having the worst Super Bowl hangover ever
@@KanyeTheGayFish69lol the same Sean Payton from nfc south he in the west now going against chiefs ,charger and raiders if he can get past the chiefs and raiders then maybe but I say he gets at least 5 guaranteed losses in the division and plus the rest
Another difference is that both Kubiak and Peyton left he league after that win, so it was expected for them to miss the playoffs (though eight is rather long at this point).
Such a super bowl hangover that they have yet to win a playoff game since they beat the Titans in the 2002 AFC championship. One of 4 current NFL teams yet to host a playoff game at their current stadium (raiders, chargers, jets, browns)
That 06 Bears team was insane and doesn't get talked about as much as they should. Imo that was the best defense of the last 20 years besides maybe the LOB at their peak. If you don't believe me go back and watch the "They are who we thought they were" game against AZ. Grossman threw 4 picks and finished the game with QBR of like 7. The Bears offense only scored 3 points all day but they still won 24-23 off 2 defensive TDs plus a Hester punt return.
Same, ive been preaching this for years: Taking Rex Grossman to the superbowl was one of the biggest accomplishments of any nfl team in the 21st century
The 2001 Bears team was pretty damn good too, that defense was also superb with a young Brian Urlacher, Safety Mike Brown, and a solid D Line. They had 2 old QBs start for that year and went 13-3.
Madden NFL 2004 [with Michael Vick on the cover] is about the 2003 season, with the roster based on thebresults of that 2002 season. When you simulate year one of franchise mode, the Raiders tend to consistently go 13-3 to 16-0, dog walk the AFC and typically win it all rather than being a super bowl hang over team.
Seen that in a video made by DYN-CHISE awhile back. He made a rebuild series on the Raiders in Madden 2004 and went 16-0 with a Super Bowl win in year 1.
@@youngf.l.y.1467 - Wrong. The games are named for the next year, like with cars. You are correct that it is for the 2003 season, but that had not yet been played when the disc was made and sold. The ratings were based on the results of the 2002 season and what EA felt the pkayers should be rated going INTO the 2003 season.
@@PaulGaitheronly if those classic maddens incorporated the “extras” like NFL 2K with the halftime show, the presentation, ETC, it would have been so much better. (Madden is still an amazing game, 2002 is my favorite with Culpepper on the cover)
@@Hygelac1000 😂 you’re bum asses had to move outta Oakland to Vegas were you continue to be trash I see why you moved to Vegas you’re teams good at losing 😂😂
And they won the Super Bowl again in 73. And lost the Sea of Hands game against Oakland in 74 and were done winning Super Bowls. Only making it to the big game again in 82 and 84.
I think compared to other sports like the nba, superbowl teams are dismantled by the nfl so much more, coordinators getting hired, players retiring or costing too much to be resigned and the fact that its any given week affects so much more
In the years just before the Super Bowl started a similar thing happened to the NY Giants. In 1963 they had an 11-3 record and lost a close game to the Chicago Bears in the NFL Championship game. They were an older team in '63 and got really old over the summer. In 1964 they finished 2-10-2 and wouldn't make the playoffs again for 18 years. Funny thing is the Bears, who won the '63 Championship, wouldn't make the playoffs for 14 years, so a long, long hangover for both teams in the 1963 Championship.
@@otaviofrnazario That Bears team was a real fluke. Nothing they did the 10 years before or the 20 years after was anything close to a championship team. At least the Giants had been a good team for years. They were just at the end of the road and all got old at the same time.
Tampa vs Raiders was like Eagles v Chiefs in 57. Wish we won. I loved Andy as a kid. My uncle who recently passed in November, I remember he had a headset like he would talk to Andy 😂
It's similar in a sense, but not quite. By the time we faced Andy, he'd already been in KC for a decade, and we'd gotten our chip two years before he got his first.
Not really. Bucs v s raiders was the immediate after. Chiefs and eagles the teams are completely unrecognizable from before, the teams also didnt trade a head coach.
There were other things that worked against the 2003 Raiders than this. I recall hearing that Bill Callahan going into the year had basically trashed the Raider offensive playbook from the previous year. The super bowl loss got to his head so much that he overcorrected things. No more no-huddle, for example, was one of the changes. There were also a ridiculous amount of false starts that happened as a result of these changes. If you watch that Broncos MNF game that year, it's clear that Callahan had lost the team, and many people say the Super Bowl "sabotage" was a catalyst for that. I recall hearing a story that Rich Gannon burst into Al's office after that game and demanded they fire Callahan immediately, that he'd destroyed everything they'd built before, etc. They also didn't have Jerry Porter going into the year which took away what little "speed" element that offense had. Injuries to the entire starting offense... I recall the final game of the year seeing that they had like 14 or so different starters on both sides of the ball on IR, which is insane. You add in the fact that there were depth problems leading up to that, and were massively exaggerated by Al's notoriously poor handling of the salary cap. That team was ripe to lose.
I think if we picked QB from that 2004 class to replace an injured and old Rich Gannon that may have saved us from falling as far as we did. Man to see 8 HOF’s from that group go to everyone but us hurts.
@@iamhungey12345 the biggest need was at QB. Our defense those years was our only saving grace since everything on Offense was a complete mess. Would’ve been fun to see one of those QB’s throw to Randy Moss when he came over
The thing I never understood was the suggestion that Callahan threw the game, or that the only reason the Bucs won was because Gruden knew the Raiders so well that he coached his players on how to beat them because he "knew what they were going to do." For the latter, It doesn't make sense to me for anyone to throw the Superbowl. For the former, it's an edge for sure. But people do realize that the 2002 Buccaneers defense is a top 5 defense all time, right? That defense dominated week after week all season long. Maybe it could have been closer if Gruden didn't know the Raiders so well, but I still think the Bucs would have had the edge given their defense.
For as bad as my Rams' Super Bowl hangover was, at least the Rams found a way to make the playoffs the year after said hangover, albeit thanks to a weak conference.
Love some good raiders lore. I’m now 25. Derek Carr just had been drafted to the Raiders when I first really started to follow football more seriously. Through all the ups and downs since I had been a fan, Carr was always the common dominator in the team. Love or hate him Carr will go down as one of the best raider qb’s all time for the organization. Regardless of the team’s performance the past 20 years, I will always support the Raiders and the players that carry on the tradition of what it means to be one. I hope Antonio pierce can turn this team around. Let’s go Raider Nation.
Yeah, his quality doesn’t seem to be quite up to snuff. I’ve noticed he’s also started reading verbatim right off of Wikipedia pages different times as well.
The only conclusion I can come to is that the 2002 realignment messed up our feng shui. No other team has been this consistently bad. Even the Lions and Browns had some sparks of life in the two decades since. My other cope is that this nightmare all started with the Patriots walking over our corpse on the way to a back to back. Now that one of our rivals have gotten a back to back the bad mojo may finally be over.
At 1:41 or so I believe that’s Daryl Lamonica. He was maybe the first NFL quarterback who really had an arm, maybe he and Joe Namath perhaps. Johnny Unitas was an excellent passer too. But I think Daryl was called “The Mad Bomber.” He could launch it.
What’s crazy is most of the Raiders critical mistakes made sense at the time. Why not try to run it back with ageless wonders Timmy and Jerry? Why not hire Norv Turner the Cowboys OC who took them to multiple SB and made Gilman a HOF QB? Why not get prime Randy Moss and pair him with strong armed Kerry Collins Why not draft Jamarcus over Megatron? Crabtree avg height and avg speed why not get a guy with size and speed and coach him up? Why not trade for Carson Palmer franchise QB with 5-6 good seasons left? Why take a chance on old busted 44 year old Brady when you’ve got young upcoming Carr? Why not poke a little fun at DeMaurice Smith with your good buddy on team emails 🐸
From a certain perspective, Gruden not agreeing to Brady makes sense in the case of I think those two on the same team would have lead to some ugly situations because they’re both too hot headed and controlling and (not to say Bruce Arians was a pushover) I don’t think Gruden would have let Tom walk in and act like he can suddenly do whatever he wants. Not saying Gruden made the right decision, just pointing out this observation
Its a fair point, if assume all applicable variables are equal. It could be possible that a need might not have existed for Tom to do what he did in Tampa Bay. I think even if it did, Tom might have dealt with it differently with Gruden. From what I have heard and read, although he could be hot headed, it is too nuanced of a scenario to simply say Tom thought he could do whatever he wanted. Tom seems to adapt and deal with people and situations according to their nature and disposition. For example, he was a role model in New England for listening to and respecting Bill under the expectation that it leads to success/winning. That buffer he created between Bill and the other players(particularly vulnerable and/or proud(arrogant) ones. In Tampa Bay, he acted a bit differently based on that situation and those involved. Tampa Bay had expressed the role they visualized for him there. I dont think he went rogue and developed an authoritarian complex abruptly. Tom and Edelman practiced different styles of methods for planning and living a successful life. They appear to have been focused on differing ones over time and this too could be a confirmation of my suggestion. Anyway, the last one I remember was a quote by Bruce Lee which is “be like water”. That is a figuratively worded statement that suggests what I have been saying. And then again, he could have just all of a sudden decided he wanted to do whatever he wanted and to be un-challenged. He might have expressed/demanded that of Gruden and in that case, Gruden would be adequately protected from criticism of his decision. I would say no. That gives me 0% more probability of being correct than the next guy, gal, confused underperforming male athlete that decides winning is important enough to his self validation to warrant implementing a slight speech affectation and relaxing the joints in your wrists as you pause to sigh at the difficulties you suffer from all of those unreasonable and meta-verbally threatening bigots that want to deny you fair treatment as you deny the rights of females to obtain scholarships intended to promote the advancement of women and break records of women in categories that only include women supposedly and do it all as a man. Not to mention that you have to have the audacity to openly expose your male genitalia to females in locker rooms labeled and intended for women. This is of course a version of a “safe space” for them where they can take care of their personal business without being exposed to males or exposing their own female bodies to males. The audacity being primarily required because “safe spaces” are a key component of the fundamental representation of the ideology that supports your open hypocrisy. Let’s not forget that ANYWHERE else in this country and under any other scenario that a sane and honest would dare consider, your act of exposing your genitalia to a female without her consent and the clear expression thereof, you would be subject to criminal charges in severity ranging up to and including felony sexual assault with the tag of a hate crime, in cases where a minority is the offended party. This is a great example of the inherent faults in collectivism that result in contradictory outcomes. The effort to single out a collective characterized by males wanting to identify as female and force others to obey their orders in relation to this desire, is denying the civil liberties of one or more other collective groups, namely the one that requires you to be female to qualify for the rights originally granted to them. Ya know, the Bill of Rights already handled it. If we legislate and judge/prosecute according to individual rights that are not dependent on age, gender, race, fad, mental disorder, hypocrisy and narcissism combined with 0% self-awareness(a truly astonishing feat), etc. Those things are not the determining qualifiers. The ignorance of the people involved in this process, especially the politicians is staggering. Cracking open the US Constitution, with an eye out for the first 10 amendments to it, otherwise referred to as the Bill of Rights, would do much to clear the confusion surrounding the issues. Sexual harassment is sexual harassment. Your desire to identify as a female and your demand to be able to control the thoughts, opinions, and actions of those around you does not alter the Bill of Rights(an additional amendment or removal of an existing one which is actually equivalent is the process for that). It also doesn’t change sexual harassment. You are still a sex offender and a pervert either way peace sign swimmer man who competes against women while you flash your penis to them like a creep psycho. Yet, the failure of our elected leaders to consider the Constitution seems to have occurred again. I will let you in on a secret. They KNOW they are doing it. They are not ignorant. To the contrary, they just dont have the same objectives we do because they do not represent us. This is Mussolini Fascism they are operating under. Business and banking interests are the ones being represented. The same 3 ones have been the top 3 donors for BOTH parties for YEARS. When any of you wake up and want to attempt to restore our liberty, let me know. It is already too late to fix the issue with diplomacy. Well, at for the peaceful expression of it. They know and they have been preparing for years. If they succeed in disarming us before we decide to act, it is virtually an impossible task(as was the case in Nazi Germany and many other countries where politicians deliberately acted to defy the rules and regulations for their country and tyrannically gain and exercise power). They KNOW the listed, intended, and true reason for the 2nd amendment. Its to kill them for tyranny and treason. Yes I digressed and ranted. I could be accused of melting down. I am operating under a great deal of sleep deprivation at the moment so I wont dispute any of those things. But, I honestly just look for any excuse to remind or educate my brothers and sisters out there who are Americans, about what is happening here every day and how important it is to act to stop this coup that has been systematically dismantling the nation that has provided all of these opportunities, liberties, choices, the hope, the safety, the pride, fellowship, entertainment, influence, etc to soo many.
@@Tadicuslegion78 Lol! Yep, by the time I typed all of that, I didnt have the courage or conviction to “post” it OR “delete” it. I didnt want to stand there and risk the low probability that someone would notice me “statued” in such serious posture with such genuine concern being demonstrated and thus be asked ANYTHING that would cause me to have to account for it in a “real” face to face human interaction. It was around 3:30am, so the risk truly was low, but entirely too high for me, so I “posted” it and hoped that maybe no one would notice. I wake up 7 hours later and TA DA!!! I appreciate being dragged to the middle of the room and displayed for the whole world to see. This will most likely result in my body being donated to science and I pray humanity can prevent it from happening again. That makes you a hero, it appears. Show it all to females, or males, you want to impress romantically. This is clever enough to get you some skin to skin. ENJOY!
@@Abognvm Yep, this one is a legit candidate for digs. Get your shovel and work up a sweat, although baby Jesus might have something to say about kicking a guy when he is soo obviously at the mercy of the public. C’mon people! Let’s you and me go together and find some other, slightly higher hanging fruit TOGETHER and lets really let them have it! The bastards! Right!?!?!
One thing lost in this video is owner Al Davis and his son Mark Davis. Both men were and are extremely meddlesome owners, almost Dan Snyder like, signing over the hill talent with no direction whatsoever. You can clearly tell they prefer experienced players over youth, retreads for coaches, and they never seem to learn from their mistakes. Look at their coaching hires, Hue Jackson before his Browns stint disaster, Dennis Allen, retreads with Jack Del Rio and Gruden, Josh McDaniels of that dreaded Belicheck tree, hell they went 8-8 with Tom Cable showing signs of improvement and they still fired him. They brought back Art Shell for one year going 2-14. Lane Kiffin was their coach at one point. The Davis family has NO idea what they're doing. A perfect example of owners meddling too much in team affairs. It's one thing to demand a winning team, it's another on how you go about building the team.
@@fartberg Agreed. His team won 3 Super Bowls and there was a time (up until the late 1990s/early 2000s) when the Raiders had the highest win percentage of any team across all professional sports in the United States. Anyone who thinks he "had no idea what he was doing" clearly doesn't know anything about the league's history.
@@jacob9538 all true. Another truth: he went beyond his retirement date... No one in good conscience would draft JaMarcus Russell. Lane Kiffin wanted Megatron
@@otaviofrnazario Jamarcus was the consensus #1 that year. It's not like anyone was calling it a reach, not even the media (who usually would take any opportunity to criticize Al Davis). Lane Kiffin sucked though, after he got fired is when the team started to get back on track (until Al passed away and Reggie McKenzie came in as GM and gutted the team to start all over).
I am so glad I found this channel. It's nice having TH-cam premium I can get caught up on the videos while this plays in the background to get me through my day.
As a Raiders fan you can only have hope. That faith in your team allows you have wishful thinking that one day the Raiders will return to prominence and carry that success they used to own. One day Raiders will be back on the mountain top. One Day. 😭😭
@@KanyeTheGayFish69 Yeah, but they're also in contract-hell with wilson. Tough to get a good QB when you owe $40m+ to a bad one, even if baker mayfield is looking to have a massive market for "bottom feeding" teams.
@@mgloriousone9823 and that’s why they’re releasing him. If they had kept him they’d still be in cap hell, and it would get worse because they wouldn’t be able to move off him for another several years. They’re moving off him now when the cap hit is manageable, and people still shit on the broncos, as if their team was moving off of an outrageously overpriced player they would want any differently.
Im not sure if TB12 and Gronk wouldve won a Superbowl if Gruden didnt blow up the deal, the Bucs had a pretty good defense, it just didnt rank so highly in some stats because Jameis had 30 ints (he also had 33 tds and over 5000yds) those 30 int could make the '85 bears defense or the 2000 Ravens defense looks average
He should've played against the Broncos in '97. No guarantee of winning, but starting Grbac was a mistake, Gannon sustained the team after Grbac went down
The Raiders hangover was the players quitting on Callahan after he threw away the game plan 3 days before the SuperBowl and switching to one that favored Tampa Bay's defense. Everyone hated him after that sabotage
I was just about to ask that same exact question lol. But I think it IS Peppers because in the background, you can see the hall of fame symbol in the back. I think he probably used the wrong photo
5:40 The Raiders switching from running to passing for the Super Bowl is a myth. This narrative comes from like 2 angry players and is 100% contradicted by the evidence. The Raiders were a PASSING team that entire season. They were #1 in passing yards (#18 in rushing yards). They passed about as much in the Super Bowl as the AFC Championship. Furthermore, they averaged
The team got mad at him for wanting to cut the older players? Do they not want to get back to the SB?? And a lot of them ended up leaving or retiring anyways 😂
In fairness to Callahan, I actually think using the same plays Gruden called was actually a pretty smart idea. And remember, they scored 27 points against arguably one of the greatest defenses in NFL history. Obviously, it didn't work. But the last thing Gruden would ever suspect would be the same exact plays he used. If Gruden hears Spider Y Banana, the last thing he will think of is that it is the same play he put in place. They simply got beaten by a better team. On the offensive side, if you would tell the Raiders the night before the game that they would have 27 points in the game against the 02' Bucs, I think they would feel good about their chances.
That was hard to watch. The NFL is always better when the Raiders are relevant. And by 1999 they were finally back to being a real team again. And after SB XXXVII they completely fell off. And here we are over 20 years later. And they’ve had what, 2-3 seasons at or over .500 in that time? Their new stadium is dope. The stadium doesn’t make the team.
As a raiders fan I think that the tuck rule is one of the biggest butterfly effects in nfl history. If the raiders won they could of beat the Steelers and the rams they had a chance, but the patriots go onto a dynasty for 20 years but next year they miss the playoffs and what if belichick gets fired for not making playoffs and not winning that Super Bowl and Brady isn’t considered “the guy” and gets replaced drastically changing the patriots but the raiders then lose and go cold for the next 20 years but it could’ve been a lot different as a potential Super Bowl champ with gruden instead of Callahan. Gruden went on to replace hof coach Tony dungy who led Peyton manning to success which impacts the bucs as they could’ve been better with Tony dungy instead of gruden and Peyton could’ve been worse without him. Changing 4 teams drastically and 2 of the best players of all time and 2 hof coaches.
Never really believed in a hangover but more so teams not realizing that as a Super Bowl winner or loser teams are getting better and competitive and the teams belief that they’ll get back to the Super Bowl without much competition
I would argue that the University of Nebraska football program was also a victim of this as they hired Bill Callahan after the Raiders fired him. And then he went on to turn a powerhouse program into a fucking joke that has never recovered.
@@KanyeTheGayFish69 They never did anything significant under Pelini. Things stabilized slightly, but we haven’t won a conference championship since before Callahan. Under Solich, (The coach prior to Callahan) we played in a National Title game. Granted we were destroyed by a Miami team that was arguably one of the best college football teams ever assembled, but we got there. Then we fired Solich after a 9 win season and Callahan destroyed everything that Tom Osborne had built.
@@lamlam2750 I don’t think Callahan destroyed them. They were competitive after him almost immediately, and if pelini wasn’t fired people wouldn’t be talking about something that happened 20 years ago still being relevant now. That was a long time ago, and has nothing to do with Nebraskas more recent struggles, which come from 2 incompetent head coaching hires in a row.
Both Tim Brown AND Jerry Rice have made that contention. Not just Brown. Too eminently respected and revered football players throughout their careers. Not loud mouth jackasses like Owens, Moss or Johnson.
Im a broncos fan so i hate the raiders, but damn dude thats a brutal stretch. Makes me feel bad for them despite hating them. Guess its a relatable situation
The reward for winning a Super Bowl is a tougher schedule the next season. The Super Bowl will have a target on them. Everybody loves to beat the Super Bowl winner.
American Football has larger rosters than most sports, so teams change drastically from year to year. There are a lot of moving pieces which makes it easier for something to go wrong
I don’t understand why people attribute the Super Bowl hangover to the losers. I remember watching all throughout high school and college that 1 Super Bowl team didn’t make the playoffs the next year. Me and my buddies would always guess who would have the hangover. 2001-giants 2002-patriots and rams 2003 - bucs and raiders 2004-panthers 2005-eagles 2006-Steelers 2007-bears 2008-pats 2009-Steelers 2010 the streak was finally broken by the saints and colts.
Lemme guess before watching video. The usual cause of SB hangover is free agency and salary cap. Usual reason why some teams look so different following year. Am I right?
What’s even worse is that the same year the raiders returned to the playoffs they announced they were going to Las Vegas. And since then they had disaster after disaster. Hate to say it but I think the move cursed them more or pro longed it. I wouldn’t be surprised if they won’t win a Super Bowl until they return to nor cal.
what's remarkable about the patriots was how impervious they were for so long to ultimate defeat. losing to the Eagles should have been the climax of their Ultra-dynasty. Everyone thought they'd just wither away. then the playoffs start the following year and they destroy i mean absolutely annihilate the Chargers, then they march into arrow head and take the AFC title, and then they avenge their superbowl loss systematically dismantling the best offense in the country. This win would serve as the climactic conclusion to the Patriots dynasty
knowing how much a team dissect one another’s plays wouldn’t it make sense that the teams in the Super Bowl are more analysed making the path back that much harder? The only few teams that make to multiple Super Bowl appearances like the Patriots and Chiefs usually have HoF coach that can innovate different playstyles in order to keep the other teams guessing. I wouldn’t say it as being fatigued or regression, they were just figured out.
I hate when people act like brady would've won that superbowl during the covid year with the raiders. That years defense o line, and receiver corps was not gonna get his ass there. He went to the team that was going to make the most of what he had to offer
11:50 You can't really blame the Broncos for not doing quite as well as back to back Lombardi's considering John Elway rode off into the sunset after '97.
Crazy to think John Gruden gifted the Bucs both of their Super Bowls both directly and indirectly
😂😂😂😂😂😂
how did he give them the 2nd one?
@@insertnamehere9950yeah fr
@@insertnamehere9950At the end of the video he says that Brady and Gronk wanted to sign with the Raiders but Gruden blew up the trade and they went to Tampa instead.
@@SynRequiemtrue i commented that when i first started watching it in hindsight i should've waited
This is definitely the biggest Super Bowl hangover of all time, not only that the Radiers went 4-12 the previous year but the Raiders only made the playoffs only twice in the past 22 years now. This is a franchise that still hasn't recovered from this Super Bowl loss way back on 2003 against Tampa Bay
@yezzir8929 Yeah y'all deserve that Super Bowl
Not only did the Raiders not make playoffs, they didn’t have a winning season from 2003-2015
@@RaidersDnB Damn I forgot about that
It wasn't losing to the bucs that did it. It was the owner with dementia
As a Raiders fan it’s made even worse now with the emergence of the Chiefs dynasty
The 2003 Raiders are the perfect example of a team ready to win now with the oldest roster in the league all simultaneously hitting the wall.
should have won the tuck rule game
@@mike045742000-2002 was their window. They unfortunately fell victim to a questionable call, and ran into two great defenses. Like even if Rich Gannon doesn't get hurt against Ravens, I don't think the Raiders win. Maybe they score seven more points, but that still wouldn't have been enough.
Ya and romanowski and rice tim Brown rod woodson Lincoln Kennedy and so many good players just not recovering
Super bowl hangovers make sense when they are full of vets that get their ring and call it a career
And since a lot of teams build for a super bowl and afterwards can't afford to pay contracts and eventually fall apart
What about the runner ups? We all agree that the most important position in football is the quarterback. Fun fact: there has never been a quarterback to retire before the end of the next season after losing the Super Bowl
Also The coordinators get hired as a coach by other teams.
@@ethansprague2005Rams are a current example. They bounced back well though this year.
Like when John elway retired after Super Bowl and the broncos sucked.
The Washington Redskins/Football Team/Commanders while having the worst front office in the league, have had more playoff appearances than the Raiders have had since this Super Bowl loss.
We can put a big asterisk next to two of those appearances happening in a very weak NFC East. (2015 & 2020)
@@JCP405 There have been a couple weak AFC Wests that the Raiders didn't take advantage off. In 2008 and 2011, the winner of that division went 8-8.
Raiders and Redskins fans have experienced a similar kind of pain to each other. Decades since being truly relevant, but still being considered historic franchises.
@@KMC5240 well God was on Tim Tebow’s and the Broncos’ side in 2011
The Detroit Lions have had more playoff appearances than the Raiders in the last 30 years 😅
12:04 can’t forget the 2015 broncos currently at 8 years and counting. At their current pace those 2015 broncos might end up having the worst Super Bowl hangover ever
They have Sean Payton. They will definitely make the playoffs in the next 6 years.
@@KanyeTheGayFish69thank you, it’s not looking good right now but SP will build something in the coming seasons
They at least won that Super Bowl
@@KanyeTheGayFish69lol the same Sean Payton from nfc south he in the west now going against chiefs ,charger and raiders if he can get past the chiefs and raiders then maybe but I say he gets at least 5 guaranteed losses in the division and plus the rest
Another difference is that both Kubiak and Peyton left he league after that win, so it was expected for them to miss the playoffs (though eight is rather long at this point).
Such a super bowl hangover that they have yet to win a playoff game since they beat the Titans in the 2002 AFC championship. One of 4 current NFL teams yet to host a playoff game at their current stadium (raiders, chargers, jets, browns)
That 06 Bears team was insane and doesn't get talked about as much as they should. Imo that was the best defense of the last 20 years besides maybe the LOB at their peak. If you don't believe me go back and watch the "They are who we thought they were" game against AZ. Grossman threw 4 picks and finished the game with QBR of like 7. The Bears offense only scored 3 points all day but they still won 24-23 off 2 defensive TDs plus a Hester punt return.
Same, ive been preaching this for years:
Taking Rex Grossman to the superbowl was one of the biggest accomplishments of any nfl team in the 21st century
Sounds like you want to crown them. Then crown their asses.
@@robertlevine2827 Not at all. That 2000 Ravens team was much better in that regard. Taking Trent Dilfer to a superbowl victory was more impressive
The 2001 Bears team was pretty damn good too, that defense was also superb with a young Brian Urlacher, Safety Mike Brown, and a solid D Line. They had 2 old QBs start for that year and went 13-3.
Madden NFL 2004 [with Michael Vick on the cover] is about the 2003 season, with the roster based on thebresults of that 2002 season. When you simulate year one of franchise mode, the Raiders tend to consistently go 13-3 to 16-0, dog walk the AFC and typically win it all rather than being a super bowl hang over team.
Seen that in a video made by DYN-CHISE awhile back. He made a rebuild series on the Raiders in Madden 2004 and went 16-0 with a Super Bowl win in year 1.
@SkullGuzzo541 - Yup. I am a subscriber and commenter on his videos. On my channel, I play and simulate classic/retro Madden and 2k games as well.
Actually it would be based on the results of the 03 season brother
@@youngf.l.y.1467 - Wrong. The games are named for the next year, like with cars. You are correct that it is for the 2003 season, but that had not yet been played when the disc was made and sold. The ratings were based on the results of the 2002 season and what EA felt the pkayers should be rated going INTO the 2003 season.
@@PaulGaitheronly if those classic maddens incorporated the “extras” like NFL 2K with the halftime show, the presentation, ETC, it would have been so much better. (Madden is still an amazing game, 2002 is my favorite with Culpepper on the cover)
Tubfrog has got to see this!!!!!!
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7:27-7:29 why is Julius Peppers in the video? Lol
Lmao wth😂
Thank you for noticing
They drafted that LSU QB 1st overall tho right? so im sure everything worked out in the end
The Bengals are that way -->
This is about that _other_ LSU QB. The one who became a tub of lard once he got drafted.
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@@ZhangtheGreathe was a tub of lard before he got drafted
must you remind us, sir? fine, one can play the same game... lynch, brock etc. 😂
Al Davis's brain was on cruise control the last 10 years of his life
@@LordSnarff and you're being generous... more out of control. One bad decision after another, not listening to anybody... he was a senile old head
I’ll never forget when we won the Super Bowl then gave up 7 touchdown passes to Peyton manning on opening night the next season.
JOEEEEE FLACCCXOOOO
The fact that the Ravens didn't even open up in their own stadium due to the lowly O's
Callahan got fired, came to Nebraska and brought in Ndamukong Suh and now-Bengals HC Zac Taylor as his QB. What a legend.
If Nebraska didn’t fire him suh wouldn’t have played there
9:51 man Al Wilson was a monster
As a Raider fan since 2000, pain.
Since 1984 here. Talk to me about pain.
Random Julius Peppers lol
hes talking about marcus williams too so i think he just used the wrong photo lol
Thank you. Thought I was going crazy for a moment at 7:26
Thought I was trippin
Oh yeah. thank you for saying that👍🏻
As a Raiders fan, our 20 years of suffering is about to get an additional 15 years with the Chiefs dynasty. I pray to God it won’t be the case.
The chiefs winning the Super Bowl in your stadium as the home team has to be the gut wrenching feeling
Not if Antonio Pierce has anything to say about it
@@chasekozak7206 Raiders got their money. KC will never host a SB in that dump stadium and city.
@@tanneredge9774yeah ok lol
@@Hygelac1000 😂 you’re bum asses had to move outta Oakland to Vegas were you continue to be trash I see why you moved to Vegas you’re teams good at losing 😂😂
Why is there a pic of Julius Peppers for the Marcus Williams romo beef lmao
It was crazy to me that 72 dolphins were a SB loser the year prior. What do you call the opposite of a hangover. SB wake up call?
And they won the Super Bowl again in 73. And lost the Sea of Hands game against Oakland in 74 and were done winning Super Bowls. Only making it to the big game again in 82 and 84.
@@doesnotexist305still got a perfect season tho
@@seb100it5 and nobody can ever take it away. Sorry New England
@@doesnotexist305 fuck New England
@@doesnotexist305 don't be. we've got what we have 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆
Panthers and Raiders had losing records after Super Bowl so they were for sure.
Still crazy to me that the Raiders let go of Gruden twice.
They were kinda forced to the second time tbh
Yeah not really much of a choice when you're outed as a racist idiot
Al's ego was the reason for the 1st. Goodell's ego was the reason for the 2nd.
@kendallevans4079 not ego racism was that factor
@@JQUiK84 How so?
I think compared to other sports like the nba, superbowl teams are dismantled by the nfl so much more, coordinators getting hired, players retiring or costing too much to be resigned and the fact that its any given week affects so much more
That autumn wind has gone quiet. It'd be nice them winning again.
In the years just before the Super Bowl started a similar thing happened to the NY Giants. In 1963 they had an 11-3 record and lost a close game to the Chicago Bears in the NFL Championship game. They were an older team in '63 and got really old over the summer. In 1964 they finished 2-10-2 and wouldn't make the playoffs again for 18 years. Funny thing is the Bears, who won the '63 Championship, wouldn't make the playoffs for 14 years, so a long, long hangover for both teams in the 1963 Championship.
it makes me wonder if any of those teams would reach the championship knowing they wouldn't be back for a long time, and what the fans would think
@@otaviofrnazario That Bears team was a real fluke. Nothing they did the 10 years before or the 20 years after was anything close to a championship team. At least the Giants had been a good team for years. They were just at the end of the road and all got old at the same time.
Kto coming in clutch with a video 🙌🙌
Tampa vs Raiders was like Eagles v Chiefs in 57. Wish we won. I loved Andy as a kid. My uncle who recently passed in November, I remember he had a headset like he would talk to Andy 😂
Rest In Peace for your uncle brother, I’m glad he could experience that 2017 Super Bowl
It's similar in a sense, but not quite. By the time we faced Andy, he'd already been in KC for a decade, and we'd gotten our chip two years before he got his first.
@@ZhangtheGreat Ik but he was still an Eagle before he became a Chief
Not really. Bucs v s raiders was the immediate after. Chiefs and eagles the teams are completely unrecognizable from before, the teams also didnt trade a head coach.
As a Huskers fan I was like oh really that Callahan? He was the Raiders coach? Sure enough it's him lol
Yeah when I learned about Callahan's past for the first time it made Nebraska hiring him so confusing
@@blainekennedy fr. The guy whose team imploded, toxic locker room and called them the dumbest team on national tv. 😅
So basically, the 2003 Raiders are the Over The Hill Gang gone wrong. :P
I love being a Raiders fan 🙃
There were other things that worked against the 2003 Raiders than this.
I recall hearing that Bill Callahan going into the year had basically trashed the Raider offensive playbook from the previous year. The super bowl loss got to his head so much that he overcorrected things. No more no-huddle, for example, was one of the changes. There were also a ridiculous amount of false starts that happened as a result of these changes. If you watch that Broncos MNF game that year, it's clear that Callahan had lost the team, and many people say the Super Bowl "sabotage" was a catalyst for that. I recall hearing a story that Rich Gannon burst into Al's office after that game and demanded they fire Callahan immediately, that he'd destroyed everything they'd built before, etc.
They also didn't have Jerry Porter going into the year which took away what little "speed" element that offense had. Injuries to the entire starting offense... I recall the final game of the year seeing that they had like 14 or so different starters on both sides of the ball on IR, which is insane.
You add in the fact that there were depth problems leading up to that, and were massively exaggerated by Al's notoriously poor handling of the salary cap. That team was ripe to lose.
Kto Sacramento alumi representing like usual
I think if we picked QB from that 2004 class to replace an injured and old Rich Gannon that may have saved us from falling as far as we did. Man to see 8 HOF’s from that group go to everyone but us hurts.
If it's any consolation, your guys probably would have drag whoever you would have chosen down.
@@iamhungey12345 the biggest need was at QB. Our defense those years was our only saving grace since everything on Offense was a complete mess. Would’ve been fun to see one of those QB’s throw to Randy Moss when he came over
It's mind-boggling as to why the Raiders didn't draft a decent QB immediately after Rich Gannon
"you know anything about Metallica? Pretty good band." Has to be the best Gruden quote ever.
The thing I never understood was the suggestion that Callahan threw the game, or that the only reason the Bucs won was because Gruden knew the Raiders so well that he coached his players on how to beat them because he "knew what they were going to do." For the latter, It doesn't make sense to me for anyone to throw the Superbowl. For the former, it's an edge for sure. But people do realize that the 2002 Buccaneers defense is a top 5 defense all time, right? That defense dominated week after week all season long. Maybe it could have been closer if Gruden didn't know the Raiders so well, but I still think the Bucs would have had the edge given their defense.
7:27 isnt that Julius Peppers? Lol
Yes that's him
KTOOOOOOOOO is clutch! Needed this today so much appreciated!
The ending was crazy!!!
The 2022 Los Angeles Rams had the biggest hangover from a winning team. 16 wins (12 regular, and 4 playoffs including SB) to only 5-12 the next year.
Nah Broncos. They still haven’t made the playoffs since the won SB50 😂
For as bad as my Rams' Super Bowl hangover was, at least the Rams found a way to make the playoffs the year after said hangover, albeit thanks to a weak conference.
Love some good raiders lore. I’m now 25. Derek Carr just had been drafted to the Raiders when I first really started to follow football more seriously. Through all the ups and downs since I had been a fan, Carr was always the common dominator in the team. Love or hate him Carr will go down as one of the best raider qb’s all time for the organization. Regardless of the team’s performance the past 20 years, I will always support the Raiders and the players that carry on the tradition of what it means to be one. I hope Antonio pierce can turn this team around. Let’s go Raider Nation.
Raiders in 02 were older I believe.
Love the video, KTO - you have a picture of Julius Peppers instead of Marcus Williams (who was injured by Romo)
Yeah, his quality doesn’t seem to be quite up to snuff. I’ve noticed he’s also started reading verbatim right off of Wikipedia pages different times as well.
The only conclusion I can come to is that the 2002 realignment messed up our feng shui. No other team has been this consistently bad. Even the Lions and Browns had some sparks of life in the two decades since.
My other cope is that this nightmare all started with the Patriots walking over our corpse on the way to a back to back. Now that one of our rivals have gotten a back to back the bad mojo may finally be over.
i don’t think its over with patrick mahomes running the show. more pain
@@UserName-ts3sp I don't need us winning the Superbowl, but getting a playoff win shouldn't be too much to ask for.
@@dannyboy1200 we’ll see. anyways more pain i mean id be salty as hell as a steeler fan if cincinnati started winning super bowls
At 1:41 or so I believe that’s Daryl Lamonica. He was maybe the first NFL quarterback who really had an arm, maybe he and Joe Namath perhaps. Johnny Unitas was an excellent passer too. But I think Daryl was called “The Mad Bomber.” He could launch it.
As a raider fan, im still holdin it down 😭😂 my whole life has been this hangover lol
Lol Amen
What’s crazy is most of the Raiders critical mistakes made sense at the time.
Why not try to run it back with ageless wonders Timmy and Jerry?
Why not hire Norv Turner the Cowboys OC who took them to multiple SB and made Gilman a HOF QB?
Why not get prime Randy Moss and pair him with strong armed Kerry Collins
Why not draft Jamarcus over Megatron?
Crabtree avg height and avg speed why not get a guy with size and speed and coach him up?
Why not trade for Carson Palmer franchise QB with 5-6 good seasons left?
Why take a chance on old busted 44 year old Brady when you’ve got young upcoming Carr?
Why not poke a little fun at DeMaurice Smith with your good buddy on team emails 🐸
From a certain perspective, Gruden not agreeing to Brady makes sense in the case of I think those two on the same team would have lead to some ugly situations because they’re both too hot headed and controlling and (not to say Bruce Arians was a pushover) I don’t think Gruden would have let Tom walk in and act like he can suddenly do whatever he wants.
Not saying Gruden made the right decision, just pointing out this observation
Its a fair point, if assume all applicable variables are equal. It could be possible that a need might not have existed for Tom to do what he did in Tampa Bay. I think even if it did, Tom might have dealt with it differently with Gruden. From what I have heard and read, although he could be hot headed, it is too nuanced of a scenario to simply say Tom thought he could do whatever he wanted. Tom seems to adapt and deal with people and situations according to their nature and disposition. For example, he was a role model in New England for listening to and respecting Bill under the expectation that it leads to success/winning. That buffer he created between Bill and the other players(particularly vulnerable and/or proud(arrogant) ones. In Tampa Bay, he acted a bit differently based on that situation and those involved. Tampa Bay had expressed the role they visualized for him there. I dont think he went rogue and developed an authoritarian complex abruptly. Tom and Edelman practiced different styles of methods for planning and living a successful life. They appear to have been focused on differing ones over time and this too could be a confirmation of my suggestion. Anyway, the last one I remember was a quote by Bruce Lee which is “be like water”. That is a figuratively worded statement that suggests what I have been saying. And then again, he could have just all of a sudden decided he wanted to do whatever he wanted and to be un-challenged. He might have expressed/demanded that of Gruden and in that case, Gruden would be adequately protected from criticism of his decision. I would say no. That gives me 0% more probability of being correct than the next guy, gal, confused underperforming male athlete that decides winning is important enough to his self validation to warrant implementing a slight speech affectation and relaxing the joints in your wrists as you pause to sigh at the difficulties you suffer from all of those unreasonable and meta-verbally threatening bigots that want to deny you fair treatment as you deny the rights of females to obtain scholarships intended to promote the advancement of women and break records of women in categories that only include women supposedly and do it all as a man. Not to mention that you have to have the audacity to openly expose your male genitalia to females in locker rooms labeled and intended for women. This is of course a version of a “safe space” for them where they can take care of their personal business without being exposed to males or exposing their own female bodies to males. The audacity being primarily required because “safe spaces” are a key component of the fundamental representation of the ideology that supports your open hypocrisy. Let’s not forget that ANYWHERE else in this country and under any other scenario that a sane and honest would dare consider, your act of exposing your genitalia to a female without her consent and the clear expression thereof, you would be subject to criminal charges in severity ranging up to and including felony sexual assault with the tag of a hate crime, in cases where a minority is the offended party. This is a great example of the inherent faults in collectivism that result in contradictory outcomes. The effort to single out a collective characterized by males wanting to identify as female and force others to obey their orders in relation to this desire, is denying the civil liberties of one or more other collective groups, namely the one that requires you to be female to qualify for the rights originally granted to them. Ya know, the Bill of Rights already handled it. If we legislate and judge/prosecute according to individual rights that are not dependent on age, gender, race, fad, mental disorder, hypocrisy and narcissism combined with 0% self-awareness(a truly astonishing feat), etc. Those things are not the determining qualifiers. The ignorance of the people involved in this process, especially the politicians is staggering. Cracking open the US Constitution, with an eye out for the first 10 amendments to it, otherwise referred to as the Bill of Rights, would do much to clear the confusion surrounding the issues. Sexual harassment is sexual harassment. Your desire to identify as a female and your demand to be able to control the thoughts, opinions, and actions of those around you does not alter the Bill of Rights(an additional amendment or removal of an existing one which is actually equivalent is the process for that). It also doesn’t change sexual harassment. You are still a sex offender and a pervert either way peace sign swimmer man who competes against women while you flash your penis to them like a creep psycho. Yet, the failure of our elected leaders to consider the Constitution seems to have occurred again. I will let you in on a secret. They KNOW they are doing it. They are not ignorant. To the contrary, they just dont have the same objectives we do because they do not represent us. This is Mussolini Fascism they are operating under. Business and banking interests are the ones being represented. The same 3 ones have been the top 3 donors for BOTH parties for YEARS. When any of you wake up and want to attempt to restore our liberty, let me know. It is already too late to fix the issue with diplomacy. Well, at for the peaceful expression of it. They know and they have been preparing for years. If they succeed in disarming us before we decide to act, it is virtually an impossible task(as was the case in Nazi Germany and many other countries where politicians deliberately acted to defy the rules and regulations for their country and tyrannically gain and exercise power). They KNOW the listed, intended, and true reason for the 2nd amendment. Its to kill them for tyranny and treason. Yes I digressed and ranted. I could be accused of melting down. I am operating under a great deal of sleep deprivation at the moment so I wont dispute any of those things. But, I honestly just look for any excuse to remind or educate my brothers and sisters out there who are Americans, about what is happening here every day and how important it is to act to stop this coup that has been systematically dismantling the nation that has provided all of these opportunities, liberties, choices, the hope, the safety, the pride, fellowship, entertainment, influence, etc to soo many.
@@chargree sir….this is a Wendy’s
@@Tadicuslegion78 Lol! Yep, by the time I typed all of that, I didnt have the courage or conviction to “post” it OR “delete” it. I didnt want to stand there and risk the low probability that someone would notice me “statued” in such serious posture with such genuine concern being demonstrated and thus be asked ANYTHING that would cause me to have to account for it in a “real” face to face human interaction. It was around 3:30am, so the risk truly was low, but entirely too high for me, so I “posted” it and hoped that maybe no one would notice. I wake up 7 hours later and TA DA!!! I appreciate being dragged to the middle of the room and displayed for the whole world to see. This will most likely result in my body being donated to science and I pray humanity can prevent it from happening again. That makes you a hero, it appears. Show it all to females, or males, you want to impress romantically. This is clever enough to get you some skin to skin. ENJOY!
@@chargreethere you go at it again 😂 haha
@@Abognvm Yep, this one is a legit candidate for digs. Get your shovel and work up a sweat, although baby Jesus might have something to say about kicking a guy when he is soo obviously at the mercy of the public. C’mon people! Let’s you and me go together and find some other, slightly higher hanging fruit TOGETHER and lets really let them have it! The bastards! Right!?!?!
Hey dad wake up kto dropped a video!
Worrrrrdddd😭😭😭
You still have a dad😢
Thanks for telling me, son. Me and your mom will watch it shortly.
Kto please bring back the MUFS series, It needs to return
Btw if anyone would like to know Cahallan is now the offensive line coach for the Titans
I think my great grandma might have actually cursed the raiders💀
Brooo I heard this story before so happy u finally added it to ur collection tho. U just now how to present videos 🤷🏽♂️
One thing lost in this video is owner Al Davis and his son Mark Davis. Both men were and are extremely meddlesome owners, almost Dan Snyder like, signing over the hill talent with no direction whatsoever. You can clearly tell they prefer experienced players over youth, retreads for coaches, and they never seem to learn from their mistakes.
Look at their coaching hires, Hue Jackson before his Browns stint disaster, Dennis Allen, retreads with Jack Del Rio and Gruden, Josh McDaniels of that dreaded Belicheck tree, hell they went 8-8 with Tom Cable showing signs of improvement and they still fired him. They brought back Art Shell for one year going 2-14. Lane Kiffin was their coach at one point.
The Davis family has NO idea what they're doing. A perfect example of owners meddling too much in team affairs. It's one thing to demand a winning team, it's another on how you go about building the team.
Al Davis was the man
@@fartberg Agreed. His team won 3 Super Bowls and there was a time (up until the late 1990s/early 2000s) when the Raiders had the highest win percentage of any team across all professional sports in the United States. Anyone who thinks he "had no idea what he was doing" clearly doesn't know anything about the league's history.
It would be more accurate to say the game passed him by in the 2000's.@@jacob9538
@@jacob9538 all true.
Another truth: he went beyond his retirement date... No one in good conscience would draft JaMarcus Russell. Lane Kiffin wanted Megatron
@@otaviofrnazario Jamarcus was the consensus #1 that year. It's not like anyone was calling it a reach, not even the media (who usually would take any opportunity to criticize Al Davis). Lane Kiffin sucked though, after he got fired is when the team started to get back on track (until Al passed away and Reggie McKenzie came in as GM and gutted the team to start all over).
I am so glad I found this channel. It's nice having TH-cam premium I can get caught up on the videos while this plays in the background to get me through my day.
As a Raiders fan you can only have hope. That faith in your team allows you have wishful thinking that one day the Raiders will return to prominence and carry that success they used to own. One day Raiders will be back on the mountain top. One Day. 😭😭
I feel like the Broncos are gonna have a worse hangover with how the franchise is going right now
Don't remind me I want to enjoy the off-season before dealing with the broncos again 😂
They have Sean Payton and better ownership than the raiders. Basically impossible for them to not make the playoffs in the next 6 years.
As a fan, we've had an 8 year Super Bowl hangover.
@@KanyeTheGayFish69 Yeah, but they're also in contract-hell with wilson. Tough to get a good QB when you owe $40m+ to a bad one, even if baker mayfield is looking to have a massive market for "bottom feeding" teams.
@@mgloriousone9823 and that’s why they’re releasing him. If they had kept him they’d still be in cap hell, and it would get worse because they wouldn’t be able to move off him for another several years. They’re moving off him now when the cap hit is manageable, and people still shit on the broncos, as if their team was moving off of an outrageously overpriced player they would want any differently.
Nooooo KTO you gotta make the outdo longer pleaseeeeee I need that melody to play
I have a feeling that the 49ers are going to perform significantly worse next season.
Its been a tough life as a raiders fan but we're still here! 😂
This game, and the tuck rule will never be forgotten!
We will be back Raider Nation! 🏴☠️
Im not sure if TB12 and Gronk wouldve won a Superbowl if Gruden didnt blow up the deal, the Bucs had a pretty good defense, it just didnt rank so highly in some stats because Jameis had 30 ints (he also had 33 tds and over 5000yds) those 30 int could make the '85 bears defense or the 2000 Ravens defense looks average
One of my biggest regrets is that the Chiefs let Gannon go after he did so great for us. Dumb move.
He should've played against the Broncos in '97. No guarantee of winning, but starting Grbac was a mistake, Gannon sustained the team after Grbac went down
Raider Faithful till the end 😭
The Raiders hangover was the players quitting on Callahan after he threw away the game plan 3 days before the SuperBowl and switching to one that favored Tampa Bay's defense. Everyone hated him after that sabotage
7:27 that's Julius Peppers my guy.
Was that Julius Peppers?
Lol thats what I was thinking.
I was just about to ask that same exact question lol. But I think it IS Peppers because in the background, you can see the hall of fame symbol in the back. I think he probably used the wrong photo
The Bucs always will have that pirate's curse, for better and for worse!
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We won two super bowls weirdo
I really wish as a Raiders fan I could watch a video not shitting on my team
5:40 The Raiders switching from running to passing for the Super Bowl is a myth. This narrative comes from like 2 angry players and is 100% contradicted by the evidence. The Raiders were a PASSING team that entire season.
They were #1 in passing yards (#18 in rushing yards). They passed about as much in the Super Bowl as the AFC Championship. Furthermore, they averaged
The team got mad at him for wanting to cut the older players? Do they not want to get back to the SB?? And a lot of them ended up leaving or retiring anyways 😂
The biggest crossover in sports history would be KTO and Baseball Doesn't Exist.
In fairness to Callahan, I actually think using the same plays Gruden called was actually a pretty smart idea. And remember, they scored 27 points against arguably one of the greatest defenses in NFL history.
Obviously, it didn't work. But the last thing Gruden would ever suspect would be the same exact plays he used. If Gruden hears Spider Y Banana, the last thing he will think of is that it is the same play he put in place.
They simply got beaten by a better team. On the offensive side, if you would tell the Raiders the night before the game that they would have 27 points in the game against the 02' Bucs, I think they would feel good about their chances.
That was hard to watch. The NFL is always better when the Raiders are relevant. And by 1999 they were finally back to being a real team again. And after SB XXXVII they completely fell off. And here we are over 20 years later. And they’ve had what, 2-3 seasons at or over .500 in that time? Their new stadium is dope. The stadium doesn’t make the team.
As a raiders fan I think that the tuck rule is one of the biggest butterfly effects in nfl history. If the raiders won they could of beat the Steelers and the rams they had a chance, but the patriots go onto a dynasty for 20 years but next year they miss the playoffs and what if belichick gets fired for not making playoffs and not winning that Super Bowl and Brady isn’t considered “the guy” and gets replaced drastically changing the patriots but the raiders then lose and go cold for the next 20 years but it could’ve been a lot different as a potential Super Bowl champ with gruden instead of Callahan. Gruden went on to replace hof coach Tony dungy who led Peyton manning to success which impacts the bucs as they could’ve been better with Tony dungy instead of gruden and Peyton could’ve been worse without him. Changing 4 teams drastically and 2 of the best players of all time and 2 hof coaches.
Never really believed in a hangover but more so teams not realizing that as a Super Bowl winner or loser teams are getting better and competitive and the teams belief that they’ll get back to the Super Bowl without much competition
It’s honestly impressive that the 2002 Raiders squad did as well as they did considering how old they all were.
I would argue that the University of Nebraska football program was also a victim of this as they hired Bill Callahan after the Raiders fired him. And then he went on to turn a powerhouse program into a fucking joke that has never recovered.
I mean they recovered under Bo pelini, and then he got fired.
@@KanyeTheGayFish69 They never did anything significant under Pelini. Things stabilized slightly, but we haven’t won a conference championship since before Callahan. Under Solich, (The coach prior to Callahan) we played in a National Title game. Granted we were destroyed by a Miami team that was arguably one of the best college football teams ever assembled, but we got there. Then we fired Solich after a 9 win season and Callahan destroyed everything that Tom Osborne had built.
@@lamlam2750 I don’t think Callahan destroyed them. They were competitive after him almost immediately, and if pelini wasn’t fired people wouldn’t be talking about something that happened 20 years ago still being relevant now. That was a long time ago, and has nothing to do with Nebraskas more recent struggles, which come from 2 incompetent head coaching hires in a row.
Being a Bengals fan I really don’t understand stand what happend after 2021
Great content, as always
Broncos aren't too far behind at this point funny enough. They haven't been back to Playoffs since winning Super Bowl 50
Both Tim Brown AND Jerry Rice have made that contention. Not just Brown. Too eminently respected and revered football players throughout their careers. Not loud mouth jackasses like Owens, Moss or Johnson.
Im a broncos fan so i hate the raiders, but damn dude thats a brutal stretch. Makes me feel bad for them despite hating them. Guess its a relatable situation
The reward for winning a Super Bowl is a tougher schedule the next season. The Super Bowl will have a target on them. Everybody loves to beat the Super Bowl winner.
This is so strange because in non american sports title winners almost never finish out of the top 5 next season.
Repeat NHL teams stay at the top most often.
In non American sports (not American football) the players typically play longer. That’s why.
American Football has larger rosters than most sports, so teams change drastically from year to year. There are a lot of moving pieces which makes it easier for something to go wrong
@@bushydev2050most sports don’t have players over 40 making up a significant part of their roster. So no, that’s not why.
@@KanyeTheGayFish69 true mb
I don’t understand why people attribute the Super Bowl hangover to the losers. I remember watching all throughout high school and college that 1 Super Bowl team didn’t make the playoffs the next year. Me and my buddies would always guess who would have the hangover.
2001-giants
2002-patriots and rams
2003 - bucs and raiders
2004-panthers
2005-eagles
2006-Steelers
2007-bears
2008-pats
2009-Steelers
2010 the streak was finally broken by the saints and colts.
Julius Peppers makes an appearance as Marcus Williams🥴
i’m a lifelong Raiders fan from Oakland, thanks for the video. One Question, why did you use Julius Peppers picture during the Romo part 😂
It’s been nothing but misery for The Raiders since that Super Bowl Sunday, hope they can turn it around soon.
12:02 WRONG!!!!
It took the Buccaneers 3 years* to make it back to the playoffs (Like New York & Washington)
EDIT: replaced "seasons" with "years"
Lemme guess before watching video. The usual cause of SB hangover is free agency and salary cap. Usual reason why some teams look so different following year.
Am I right?
Conversely the absence of those two things are also part of why the teams before the mid 90’s stayed on top for longer in general.
@@fortynights1513 Yep! Mainly the Cowboys, 49ers, and Bills in the early half of the 90s.
What’s even worse is that the same year the raiders returned to the playoffs they announced they were going to Las Vegas. And since then they had disaster after disaster.
Hate to say it but I think the move cursed them more or pro longed it. I wouldn’t be surprised if they won’t win a Super Bowl until they return to nor cal.
Random picture of Julius peppers @7:27 lol
My dad's been saying this same thing g about how every SB loser gets worse the next year
what's remarkable about the patriots was how impervious they were for so long to ultimate defeat. losing to the Eagles should have been the climax of their Ultra-dynasty. Everyone thought they'd just wither away. then the playoffs start the following year and they destroy i mean absolutely annihilate the Chargers, then they march into arrow head and take the AFC title, and then they avenge their superbowl loss systematically dismantling the best offense in the country. This win would serve as the climactic conclusion to the Patriots dynasty
knowing how much a team dissect one another’s plays wouldn’t it make sense that the teams in the Super Bowl are more analysed making the path back that much harder? The only few teams that make to multiple Super Bowl appearances like the Patriots and Chiefs usually have HoF coach that can innovate different playstyles in order to keep the other teams guessing. I wouldn’t say it as being fatigued or regression, they were just figured out.
I never get sick of the song at the end.
I hate when people act like brady would've won that superbowl during the covid year with the raiders. That years defense o line, and receiver corps was not gonna get his ass there. He went to the team that was going to make the most of what he had to offer
I had a hangover this week
11:50 You can't really blame the Broncos for not doing quite as well as back to back Lombardi's considering John Elway rode off into the sunset after '97.