Derek, great video, before I rant 😊 I should say we are a two EV house my wife drives a small one 150km range max, mine is 300-350k. I live in Clare and am at least once if not twice visiting my mother who lives in your area so familiar with Tesco chargers. I use Ionity in Kill both on the way up and down to Clare. Last time after Christmas week I made it to Sth bound with 9km left. So why? Tesco chargers are perpetually busy. 22kw is a waste of time and 50kw is just not high power really, north of 100kw should be standard in many areas. PHEV Hybrids such as that what looks like 5 Series should not be using public chargers pure EVs should be priority to take some pressure off. Taxi drivers are starting to use EVs I have noticed quiet a lot parked and charging which is great, but if a car is being run by a Cosy then more pressure on system as more take up the EVs which makes sense but again not enough chargers now. There are no “wait” bays to allow some form of reasonable orderly queuing, most drivers are reasonable but I can see “charge-rage” becoming a problem. I could be wrong but I went to a Charger site in Cork, car and app said 4 chargers, yup 4 but two Parking Spaces? That is misleading. Every Petrol station should be required by law based on size of courtyard be required to provide 2 or more high power chargers. I am reminded of build it and they will come, Mr Ryan and the Greens are fixated on cycle lanes…shame not as fixated on charging network.
I have been 4 years using public network only. Drove 80k km. Mostly with easygo lidl 500 meters from my house. But sold car now. Opel corsa. Wrecked my back. But hope to get back into ev again afyer house is bought.
Good intro for newbies who cannot charge at home. Home charging makes BEV transition feasible, easy, low cost and convenient, a key to making it a successful transition. Unfortunately Ireland hasn’t yet provided infrastructure for apartment and terraced home dwellers. It’s the last gap.
Great info thanks! I’m hope to move into EV by the end of summer!I would love a very simple video on setting up for the 1st time; ie when to order your charger for at home! The most simple math for public charging, story with this ESB charge card? Is it needed! Etc just the basic stuff for setting up
Good video and hopefully food for thought for some people. It's definitely possible with a bit more effort/planning than if you have a home charge point. I did it for 3 years between 2018-2021 with a Renault Zoe. The 22kW onboard AC charger was a big help, as was the number of those AC charge points in my area at the time. I would say that a car with higher power onboard AC charger is a must (11kW+) as DC charging is not always possible and many are limited by overstay fees. You definitely need to be mindful that this is public/private infrastructure and isn't your own personal charge point - can't hog it or expect people to move as it's "yours". We all need to share. It helps to have a few known options in case your regular is busy or broken. After a while you'll notice the best times/days in your local area which helps. I found that Sunday evening/nights were busy in my area so would charge on Monday instead.
Excellent video Derek, I’ve survived owning an EV without home charging. I’ve charging at work so that is a great help. One thing, I wouldn’t recommend using ZapMap in Ireland as it isn’t updated with all the new charger sites and they are slow to update their map, whenever I put in a suggested new site.
Street lamp chargers are the way to go so people can charge overnight. Hope to see them appear around the country in the near future. They are easy to install and charging could be by credit card. Having a home charger spols me. Video makes me realise how spoiled I am. Also have the option of 3 pin charger if away from home and have a house supply available... might need to put an extension lead in the car though. See ESB are investing in more rapid chargers. With more ev's we need more chargers. It should be mandatory that all new builds are EV charging ready. Appartment blocks should have a dedicated area for the residents to use. Nice to see we are no longer talking about range anxiets, but the lack of chargers. This is cart and horse stuff. Goverment should have acted years ago to ensure there is a proper charging network in the country. Another good video. Thanks DES
Public rapid charging in Europe is around €0.9 / kWhr. I get a bit over 5 km/kWhr so I need about 20 kWhr to go 100 km = €18 / 100km. My ICE vehicle does 7 litres / 100 km. At €1.8 / litre, that's €12.6 / 100 km. So an ICE vehicle "fuel" cost per km is around 30% cheaper - and I can fill up anywhere, anytime in minutes - and I get even better performance on the freeway. No contest in my book. Oh, and my ICE vehicle was €10,000 cheaper than my ev - no contest again. Please explain why I should continue the ev experiment.
Well Night costs here in the spring last year were 9c per kwh now they are 21c. An i4 would be €16.80 ex vat or €20.66 for on average 400km. At home charging. Take a 2.2diesel, full tank 50 litres say at 1.75 a litre, thats €87.5 for 800km range. So 400 would be €43.75. Or double the ev. Blame the Electricity prices for going up but still its cheaper. Hes right though about the initial outlay. A 330e is €56~60k an i4 is €67~73k
Pretty much the only situation you would ever pay 0,9 euro is if you use ionity and have no subscription or account. I've never paid over 0,4 anywhere in europe, ionity or anything else. At least use real numbers for your argument.
In Ireland they don't have different prices for different times of day? Public charging around me charges 60 cents kw during bsuy times. After 10pm the rates drops to like 39 cents kw. On road trips I'll just charge then. The chargers are always empty at 11pm.
What i would like to see Derek is a staggered cost scheme for those lamp chargers. Say you're on disability or are long term unemployed so don't travel very far in your old Leaf because that's all you can afford. Select 16 amps instead of 32 and get a cheaper rate, select 10 amps and its even cheaper as you're not putting demand on the network. The material cost of creating a charge point would be much cheaper as no need for trenching cables or digging up pavements. You could sell small amounts of electricity without losing money and would be a social good for everyone including the poorest among us. Every supermarket carpark has these lights, GAA pitches, pubs etc. The pier where our boat ties up is in the middle of nowhere but has 3 lights so adding chargers everywhere and anywhere would be super easy and would make expensive DC charging largely an irrelevance for a lot of people. Something the IEVOA could talk to the ESB about trialling ?
04:50 "It hadn't charged" Derek did you not use the Peugeot app to check it was charging after you left the car? Thankfully free charging is largely gone, it was abused, ever since ESB introduced fees in November 2019 drivers stopped abusing it and stopped hogging EV charging bays. It was great to see providers over the past two years moving away from slow AC to DC rapid chargers upgrading many of their former AC points to proper DC charge points. AC at retail locations. Who parks at a shop for 4-6 hours. Two hours on AC is not even worth the bother of getting the cable out of the boot (ie add only 100km range, when CCS can add 260km range in only 15 mins at a motorway services). M7 now has 48 CCS rapid charging stalls, M6 pretty good too. M1 remains an electron famine area.
Honest account of the difficulties that are faced some are from people being idiots like taking free charging when they dont deserve it. It will all gradually get better as the infrastructure gets better because everyone will be eventually going EV
Think it important that your EV has an app that can allow you to check the car is charging when you have left it charging. Mine has that so wouldn’t have that issue Derek had thinking he was charging overnight only to return to the car in the morning to find that it wasn’t charged.
Agree on that. Mine has an app which is slow to update but at least you can see it's working. It also sends a text when it's finished charging. I found this very helpful.
Thanks both. Very true. Unfortunately with press cars we rarely get access to the app so appreciate it's not a true representation of living with an EV full-time
I’m owning an electric BMW for the last 3 years and I have no access to charger at my apartment block. When I bought my car, most of the chargers were free of charge and not many EV’s on the road. Now I find difficult to charge at public chargers because for the most of time they’re occupied and also it got more expensive. I’m currently paying around €.027 per kWh with subscription using slow charger.
Thanks Dann. Do you think that the management company in the apartment complex will add them or your place of work? Is your cat a fully electric vehicle or plug-in hybrid?
@@NevoEVReviewIreland I’m driving a BMW i3 Rex 60Ah. Technically it’s plug-in hybrid but I only use fuel on long journeys. I’ve been talking to management company last summer about charging points but since I was the only EV owner at this place they didn’t have any interest to do that. I think in some other countries like Denmark you only need permission from landlord to instal a charger which I believe is a lot better solution.
Maybe this is a newbie question but i was wondering if there is a way to choose your electicity provider at different EV charging places? Is each charging station tied to a different electricity provider or just a car specific model one like the tesla stations. thanks
@@NevoEVReviewIreland if they are legal in UK, they are probably legal here. And who is going to object if the installation is neat and does not inconvenience anyone?
I've been on public charging since getting my eC4 in august 2021 and prices have more than dramatically increased but I think it's important to know that it can be done, I've travelled to France with it and over Ireland only relying on public charging, at first you have the range stress, but then once you get to know your can and the public charging system you get used to it and it becomes an automatism. There are a lot of naysayers who don't recommend getting an EV when not being able to home charge but I would say, don't mind them and go for it.
What would be quite helpful would be a short video of pitfalls for newbies, mistakes others have made so that I don't have to. What the different type of cables look like and how tell which types of public chargers can be used for which type of car for instance. Or what to do if you're not sure that you have enough charge to get to the nearest charger, does turning off everything possible like the radio made any useful difference.
@@NevoEVReviewIreland Another newbie question for your potential extra-basic video. How much more should the published range be than the journey you're making to not get range anxiety. EG, I regularly go to East Clare which is the land that public charging forgot. My journey is 220km. If my car has a published range of 440k, will I definitely get there? Bear in mind that the last available charger on the M7 as far as I can tell is at Nenagh which is over 50km from my destination.
Have a look at the website or App ABRP (a better route planner). Add your car and state of charge on departure and the your start and end journey point and it will show you what you will land with.
@@NevoEVReviewIreland Thanks. I currently have a plug in hybrid but I'm thinking of going full electric on the next car. This particular journey is what puts me off at the moment. I find the range calculation in my current car is quite unreliable, it changes the range quite drastically even if I'm driving at a constant speed. That's fine when I have a petrol engine as backup but wouldn't be fine at all if I have just gone past the last charge point on my journey.
Thanks Derek I agree It seems that nowadays one has to justify everything only financially while this is important doing the right thing is more important Relevant to this conversation we have solar on our house and export twice as much as we use so an Electric van charged at home would not only be very cheap to run but be the right thing to do environmentally May I ask an off topic question here in New Zealand we finally have the choice of an electric maxus MIFA9 or an electric 75KWH Peugeot expert should we purchase the known brand Peugeot or the less known Maxus/LDV? They are the same price about € 42,000 We want to use the vehicle as a daily driver and occasionally as a camper car also needs to transport our tandem bicycles Cheers verne Pavreal
Thanks for the comment and question Verne. I've yet to drive the MAXUS but this will be happening in the coming months. Sorry I can't give a better answer but in Ireland the MIFA9 is going to be a good bit more expensive to the expert. Also, you're talking the passenger expert right? We call that the e-Traveller over here
@@NevoEVReviewIreland unfortunately not the Peugeot is probably going to be the cargo version they don’t even remove the freight barrier although can remove it locally so we have to fit windows linings etc I suspect that my for nine is the better choice given its price and rave reviews it’s had it over here unfortunately the local company is not very progressive and I haven’t even had opportunity to view it in over a month of repeated phone calls Cheers
Correction the company importing the Maxus/LDV vehicles is quite electric progressive That’s great lake motors their sales people are not customer focused or at least NOT the ones I’m forced to deal with Cheers
Supermarket chargers should be rapid chargers, not destination (AC) charging. Like you say, you’re only in a supermarket for 30/40 mins… Doesn’t make sense.
Why did Tesla only put 4 Superchargers in ? Having only 4 in the entire City of Dublin is ridiculous when you have 2 Tesla sites on the M1 in Louth at the same junction with 16 points (surely 1 would have done with the flyover connection there ?) while a population of over 1 million people are served by only 4 superchargers.
I drive a ev kia niro charging at home is fine. Public charging is way to expensive now plus the hassle waiting for other people to finish. STICK TO THE DIESEL LADS WAY CHEAPER
Derek, Why do you not use a 13a standard plug at home? While you don't have dedicated off street parking, you may have a virtually private space. It is only electric plugs? Eamon
I live in a first floor apartment and the management committee allowed me install a charger near my Leaf and neatly wire a cable to my fusebox. If we follow Norway and enshrine the "right to charge" in law, the management authorities would be obliged to allow a charger installation.,
@EV Review Ireland Thanks was thinking of getting a Nissan airya. Live in apartment with a lamppost beside my parking space on street parking. So would take a week too charge it lol
I use the lampost chargers when in work, I usually see 4kW, however DLRR are providing free charging and you don't have to pay the parking fee if charging, I checked this with one of the wardens. You need the Ubitricity app and the first time you use it they deduct €8 from your credit card as a confirmation and they return it shortly afterwards. The only problems are they're busy most days and can sometimes be difficult to get a connection. I find you need to have your car off and locked to get a connection.
EVs in production cost the same environmentally as ICEs in production. EV batteries contain rare earth minerals, often mined using children. They’re rare so what happens when they run out? When you plug in your EV, whether at home or public, you’re using, guess what? Fossil fuels to charge your car, unless your electric network is awash with energy produced by renewable sources, which mostly are a very small contributor to the network. Additionally, when everyone plugs in their electric cars to charge them, the electric network will not be able to cope. The batteries when they are at life’s end, will massively pollute the planet. Who wants to buy a 2nd hand EV with doubtful, battery life left? Leaving many 2nd hand EVs to be scrapped - more pollution. Charging network, as you pointed out is hugely problematic. Thieves are now targeting charging cables for the copper and cutting them off charging stations. As a woman, I would want to sit in an expensive car, at the back of a supermarket car park after dark, waiting for my car to charge. Sorry, but EVs are not the green solution we’re being told it is. Remember the lies we were told about diesel fuel and how much better it was for the environment?
An ev produced and run on an average eu grid is lower on co² than an equivalent ICE car in about 3 years of standard use According to most studies. Even an ev run on electricity from a coal plant is much better co² wise than an ICE car because the coal plant gets more than twice as much energy out of the fuel than an inefficient car engine wasting 70% or more of the energy as heat. It is true that a lot of batteries use cobalt, and a lot of that comes from places where child Labour does exist. But we are actively working to get away from that with things like lfp batteries that don't use cobalt, and a big cobalt mine being planned in sweden. If you don't want any child mined cobalt in things you use i would recommend avoiding any electronics, or gas for that matter as cobalt is used in the refining process. There's nothing rare about "rare earth minerals". Lithium is the 17th most common element on earth. It's just spread thin all over the world, and we haven't had much use for many of them before so we haven't mined them much. But we're currently improving on that all over the world. The electric network will cope fine. If all cars were EVs tomorrow it would on average increase grid demand by 7-10%, but the switch is going to take decades. Heat pumps being installed in uninsulated homes are a much bigger impact on the grid than EVs. The expected lifespan of current batteries is longer than the rest of the car. They will not need any replacing before the car is scrapped in 20-30 years. And when that happens they can either be reused in other applications where it doesn't matter that they have lost 20-30% capacity (like house batteries where weight is not an issue) or they can be fully recycled like lead acid batteries are today. An old lithium battery is essentially thousands of euros worth of minerals waiting to be extracted. Current recycling extracts over 95% of the minerals and the result is indistinguishable from newly mined minerals. The charging network will improve, the best option is ofc always home charging. I've never sat anywhere and waited for my car to charge except on long trips, and that's mostly been highway rest stops in the middle of the day. As for copper thieves, that's more of a social issue than an ev one. If they're poor enough that they're willing to risk their lives cutting live high voltage lines they'll find something to survive on. If this isn't it then maybe they'll go for mugging people instead. The solution is helping people out of that desperate poverty, not banning the use of copper in public spaces. I understand you've heard all of these concerns you're voicing. But you've been misinformed on all accounts. EVs are the better option, and they are here to stay, and will be replacing gas cars entirely over the next 20-30 years. Personally i love it. My electric van is much nicer and quieter to drive than my diesel was. I always have a "full tank" in the morning because it charges over night. It's so much cheaper that my brand new electric van costs me less per month than my old diesel van did, because the electricity is so much cheaper than diesel.
Derek I love ure channel but I disagree with Ure comment life can’t always be convenient, I never let me car go below 3/4 s of a tank of fuel. I can get in it anytime of the week travel the length of the country in any weather conditions with my heated seats on and air con and not spare a thought other than having to refill in under 5 minutes
Derek, great video, before I rant 😊 I should say we are a two EV house my wife drives a small one 150km range max, mine is 300-350k. I live in Clare and am at least once if not twice visiting my mother who lives in your area so familiar with Tesco chargers. I use Ionity in Kill both on the way up and down to Clare. Last time after Christmas week I made it to Sth bound with 9km left. So why?
Tesco chargers are perpetually busy.
22kw is a waste of time and 50kw is just not high power really, north of 100kw should be standard in many areas.
PHEV Hybrids such as that what looks like 5 Series should not be using public chargers pure EVs should be priority to take some pressure off.
Taxi drivers are starting to use EVs I have noticed quiet a lot parked and charging which is great, but if a car is being run by a Cosy then more pressure on system as more take up the EVs which makes sense but again not enough chargers now.
There are no “wait” bays to allow some form of reasonable orderly queuing, most drivers are reasonable but I can see “charge-rage” becoming a problem.
I could be wrong but I went to a Charger site in Cork, car and app said 4 chargers, yup 4 but two Parking Spaces? That is misleading.
Every Petrol station should be required by law based on size of courtyard be required to provide 2 or more high power chargers.
I am reminded of build it and they will come, Mr Ryan and the Greens are fixated on cycle lanes…shame not as fixated on charging network.
Great points and thanks for the comment!
I have been 4 years using public network only. Drove 80k km. Mostly with easygo lidl 500 meters from my house. But sold car now. Opel corsa. Wrecked my back. But hope to get back into ev again afyer house is bought.
The biggest downside to electric cars there is not enough public charger stations
Sorry to hear about your back. For sure it can be done. Thanks for the comment
At the moment yes but it will come
@@paulscallan1490 it still didnt put me off buying one. There are loads when you go looking. But it needs bit of planning
Good intro for newbies who cannot charge at home. Home charging makes BEV transition feasible, easy, low cost and convenient, a key to making it a successful transition. Unfortunately Ireland hasn’t yet provided infrastructure for apartment and terraced home dwellers. It’s the last gap.
Thanks Noel. I had to give both the ups and downs
Great info thanks! I’m hope to move into EV by the end of summer!I would love a very simple video on setting up for the 1st time; ie when to order your charger for at home! The most simple math for public charging, story with this ESB charge card? Is it needed! Etc just the basic stuff for setting up
Great idea!
Thanks Derek, great review as usual.
You're right easygo DC charging is faster & cheaper than the ESB DC ...
Thanks for watching!
Good video and hopefully food for thought for some people.
It's definitely possible with a bit more effort/planning than if you have a home charge point. I did it for 3 years between 2018-2021 with a Renault Zoe. The 22kW onboard AC charger was a big help, as was the number of those AC charge points in my area at the time.
I would say that a car with higher power onboard AC charger is a must (11kW+) as DC charging is not always possible and many are limited by overstay fees.
You definitely need to be mindful that this is public/private infrastructure and isn't your own personal charge point - can't hog it or expect people to move as it's "yours". We all need to share.
It helps to have a few known options in case your regular is busy or broken. After a while you'll notice the best times/days in your local area which helps. I found that Sunday evening/nights were busy in my area so would charge on Monday instead.
Thanks Brian, I was thinking of you when recording it. Thanks for the comment and great to hear from those who have actually done this
Excellent video Derek, I’ve survived owning an EV without home charging. I’ve charging at work so that is a great help. One thing, I wouldn’t recommend using ZapMap in Ireland as it isn’t updated with all the new charger sites and they are slow to update their map, whenever I put in a suggested new site.
Thanks for the comment and feedback
What about Sharepoint?
Street lamp chargers are the way to go so people can charge overnight. Hope to see them appear around the country in the near future. They are easy to install and charging could be by credit card.
Having a home charger spols me. Video makes me realise how spoiled I am.
Also have the option of 3 pin charger if away from home and have a house supply available... might need to put an extension lead in the car though.
See ESB are investing in more rapid chargers. With more ev's we need more chargers.
It should be mandatory that all new builds are EV charging ready. Appartment blocks should have a dedicated area for the residents to use.
Nice to see we are no longer talking about range anxiets, but the lack of chargers.
This is cart and horse stuff. Goverment should have acted years ago to ensure there is a proper charging network in the country.
Another good video. Thanks
DES
Thanks for the comment Des and all valid points as usual. We're definitely on a journey and will look back and laugh at the early days of EV driving.
The street light charger is a great idea 💡
Agree! I think a mix of charging types is what we need
See this in London , seem be great option.
Public rapid charging in Europe is around €0.9 / kWhr. I get a bit over 5 km/kWhr so I need about 20 kWhr to go 100 km = €18 / 100km. My ICE vehicle does 7 litres / 100 km. At €1.8 / litre, that's €12.6 / 100 km. So an ICE vehicle "fuel" cost per km is around 30% cheaper - and I can fill up anywhere, anytime in minutes - and I get even better performance on the freeway. No contest in my book. Oh, and my ICE vehicle was €10,000 cheaper than my ev - no contest again. Please explain why I should continue the ev experiment.
Because you're able to charge at home? If not, and cost is your driving factor and not zero tailpipe emissions then driving an EV may not be for you.
@balkan Leopard with home charging on night rate electricity BEV still costs 1/5th of the cost of petrol or diesel.
Well Night costs here in the spring last year were 9c per kwh now they are 21c. An i4 would be €16.80 ex vat or €20.66 for on average 400km. At home charging. Take a 2.2diesel, full tank 50 litres say at 1.75 a litre, thats €87.5 for 800km range. So 400 would be €43.75. Or double the ev. Blame the Electricity prices for going up but still its cheaper. Hes right though about the initial outlay. A 330e is €56~60k an i4 is €67~73k
Pretty much the only situation you would ever pay 0,9 euro is if you use ionity and have no subscription or account. I've never paid over 0,4 anywhere in europe, ionity or anything else.
At least use real numbers for your argument.
Your prices are wrong that's why your calculations work in favor of the ice
In Ireland they don't have different prices for different times of day? Public charging around me charges 60 cents kw during bsuy times. After 10pm the rates drops to like 39 cents kw.
On road trips I'll just charge then. The chargers are always empty at 11pm.
Dynamic pricing is the future for sure
What i would like to see Derek is a staggered cost scheme for those lamp chargers. Say you're on disability or are long term unemployed so don't travel very far in your old Leaf because that's all you can afford. Select 16 amps instead of 32 and get a cheaper rate, select 10 amps and its even cheaper as you're not putting demand on the network. The material cost of creating a charge point would be much cheaper as no need for trenching cables or digging up pavements. You could sell small amounts of electricity without losing money and would be a social good for everyone including the poorest among us. Every supermarket carpark has these lights, GAA pitches, pubs etc. The pier where our boat ties up is in the middle of nowhere but has 3 lights so adding chargers everywhere and anywhere would be super easy and would make expensive DC charging largely an irrelevance for a lot of people. Something the IEVOA could talk to the ESB about trialling ?
Thanks for the message. I'll bring it up at the next committee meeting but please also message the IEVOA website
04:50 "It hadn't charged" Derek did you not use the Peugeot app to check it was charging after you left the car?
Thankfully free charging is largely gone, it was abused, ever since ESB introduced fees in November 2019 drivers stopped abusing it and stopped hogging EV charging bays. It was great to see providers over the past two years moving away from slow AC to DC rapid chargers upgrading many of their former AC points to proper DC charge points. AC at retail locations. Who parks at a shop for 4-6 hours. Two hours on AC is not even worth the bother of getting the cable out of the boot (ie add only 100km range, when CCS can add 260km range in only 15 mins at a motorway services). M7 now has 48 CCS rapid charging stalls, M6 pretty good too. M1 remains an electron famine area.
Honest account of the difficulties that are faced some are from people being idiots like taking free charging when they dont deserve it.
It will all gradually get better as the infrastructure gets better because everyone will be eventually going EV
A journey for sure. Thanks for the comment John
Think it important that your EV has an app that can allow you to check the car is charging when you have left it charging. Mine has that so wouldn’t have that issue Derek had thinking he was charging overnight only to return to the car in the morning to find that it wasn’t charged.
Agree on that. Mine has an app which is slow to update but at least you can see it's working. It also sends a text when it's finished charging. I found this very helpful.
Thanks both. Very true. Unfortunately with press cars we rarely get access to the app so appreciate it's not a true representation of living with an EV full-time
I’m owning an electric BMW for the last 3 years and I have no access to charger at my apartment block. When I bought my car, most of the chargers were free of charge and not many EV’s on the road. Now I find difficult to charge at public chargers because for the most of time they’re occupied and also it got more expensive. I’m currently paying around €.027 per kWh with subscription using slow charger.
Thanks Dann. Do you think that the management company in the apartment complex will add them or your place of work? Is your cat a fully electric vehicle or plug-in hybrid?
@@NevoEVReviewIreland I’m driving a BMW i3 Rex 60Ah. Technically it’s plug-in hybrid but I only use fuel on long journeys. I’ve been talking to management company last summer about charging points but since I was the only EV owner at this place they didn’t have any interest to do that. I think in some other countries like Denmark you only need permission from landlord to instal a charger which I believe is a lot better solution.
Maybe this is a newbie question but i was wondering if there is a way to choose your electicity provider at different EV charging places? Is each charging station tied to a different electricity provider or just a car specific model one like the tesla stations. thanks
Great question. Each charging station already has the price locked in and supplier. Your idea is a good one!
Two UK solutions for kerb-side charging: Over head arm to pass cable to car and small footpath gully to route cable.
I like both but not sure on the legality and planning permission of both?
@@NevoEVReviewIreland if they are legal in UK, they are probably legal here. And who is going to object if the installation is neat and does not inconvenience anyone?
I've been on public charging since getting my eC4 in august 2021 and prices have more than dramatically increased but I think it's important to know that it can be done, I've travelled to France with it and over Ireland only relying on public charging, at first you have the range stress, but then once you get to know your can and the public charging system you get used to it and it becomes an automatism. There are a lot of naysayers who don't recommend getting an EV when not being able to home charge but I would say, don't mind them and go for it.
Thanks for the comment! Definitely a learning experience for all EV drivers
What are the apps? To have clips inserted on the video! I guess the top 5
In Ireland I'd say ESB eCars, EasyGo, PlugShare, Weev and ZapMap
What would be quite helpful would be a short video of pitfalls for newbies, mistakes others have made so that I don't have to. What the different type of cables look like and how tell which types of public chargers can be used for which type of car for instance. Or what to do if you're not sure that you have enough charge to get to the nearest charger, does turning off everything possible like the radio made any useful difference.
Thanks for the suggestion Nicola. Will work on something
@@NevoEVReviewIreland Another newbie question for your potential extra-basic video. How much more should the published range be than the journey you're making to not get range anxiety. EG, I regularly go to East Clare which is the land that public charging forgot. My journey is 220km. If my car has a published range of 440k, will I definitely get there? Bear in mind that the last available charger on the M7 as far as I can tell is at Nenagh which is over 50km from my destination.
You should have plenty. Just watch the speed on the motorway. 110km or 100km is loads
Have a look at the website or App ABRP (a better route planner). Add your car and state of charge on departure and the your start and end journey point and it will show you what you will land with.
@@NevoEVReviewIreland Thanks. I currently have a plug in hybrid but I'm thinking of going full electric on the next car. This particular journey is what puts me off at the moment. I find the range calculation in my current car is quite unreliable, it changes the range quite drastically even if I'm driving at a constant speed. That's fine when I have a petrol engine as backup but wouldn't be fine at all if I have just gone past the last charge point on my journey.
Great video mate
Glad you enjoyed
Thanks Derek
I agree
It seems that nowadays one has to justify everything only financially while this is important doing the right thing is more important
Relevant to this conversation we have solar on our house and export twice as much as we use so an Electric van charged at home would not only be very cheap to run but be the right thing to do environmentally
May I ask an off topic question here in New Zealand we finally have the choice of an electric maxus MIFA9 or an electric 75KWH Peugeot expert should we purchase the known brand Peugeot or the less known Maxus/LDV? They are the same price about € 42,000
We want to use the vehicle as a daily driver and occasionally as a camper car also needs to transport our tandem bicycles
Cheers verne Pavreal
Thanks for the comment and question Verne. I've yet to drive the MAXUS but this will be happening in the coming months. Sorry I can't give a better answer but in Ireland the MIFA9 is going to be a good bit more expensive to the expert. Also, you're talking the passenger expert right? We call that the e-Traveller over here
@@NevoEVReviewIreland unfortunately not the Peugeot is probably going to be the cargo version they don’t even remove the freight barrier although can remove it locally so we have to fit windows linings etc I suspect that my for nine is the better choice given its price and rave reviews it’s had it over here unfortunately the local company is not very progressive and I haven’t even had opportunity to view it in over a month of repeated phone calls
Cheers
Correction the company importing the Maxus/LDV vehicles is quite electric progressive
That’s great lake motors
their sales people are not customer focused or at least NOT the ones I’m forced to deal with
Cheers
Supermarket chargers should be rapid chargers, not destination (AC) charging. Like you say, you’re only in a supermarket for 30/40 mins… Doesn’t make sense.
I'm starting to see the change happening but there's a substantial difference in capital costs
Why did Tesla only put 4 Superchargers in ? Having only 4 in the entire City of Dublin is ridiculous when you have 2 Tesla sites on the M1 in Louth at the same junction with 16 points (surely 1 would have done with the flyover connection there ?) while a population of over 1 million people are served by only 4 superchargers.
Should be row of them
Thanks both for the comment. As it's a rent site I think it's more space limitations and potentially the power to the local grid. Only my opinion
@@NevoEVReviewIreland maybe, but surely there is a site to be found for the demand in the Dublin area with more than 4 chargers !
@@bmichael3580 agree . More reliable chargers required. Many DC fast chargers in row not 1 50 DC on trunk roads
Whats the ticking on the audio,sounds like Bluetooth interference.
No idea but apologies. It was connected to the car Bluetooth so I'll turn off Bluetooth the next time and see if it makes a difference.
I rely on public charging:) It's a hassle actually:-(
I wouldn't doubt it. Sorry to hear. Any improvement any time soon on the horizon?
I drive a ev kia niro charging at home is fine. Public charging is way to expensive now plus the hassle waiting for other people to finish. STICK TO THE DIESEL LADS WAY CHEAPER
Thanks for the comment. Not easy but it's getting better
Derek, Why do you not use a 13a standard plug at home? While you don't have dedicated off street parking, you may have a virtually private space. It is only electric plugs? Eamon
A granny charger uses 13a home socket but only at about 3kw an hour. It would take 26.7 hours to charge a car on that.
@@Badonicus26 hrs charge if the EV had a huge battery pack, was totally empty and the owner planned to lap Ireland next day - Unlikely!
Not usually possible if you're in an apartment. Maybe on ground floor near a space it would be easier.
I live in a first floor apartment and the management committee allowed me install a charger near my Leaf and neatly wire a cable to my fusebox. If we follow Norway and enshrine the "right to charge" in law, the management authorities would be obliged to allow a charger installation.,
@@eamonstack4139 I agree, it's the way to go. Sadly not all mgmt companies are as open. We need a bigger stick.
With the lamppost whats the speed with them ?
Thanks for the question Mark. Up to 5.5kW but usually 3kW as it's limited to the infrastructure of the public lighting
@EV Review Ireland Thanks was thinking of getting a Nissan airya. Live in apartment with a lamppost beside my parking space on street parking. So would take a week too charge it lol
Plug in every night you'd be surprised. Do you think you'll empty the ARIYA battery most days?
@@markparkes8057 your never going be empty every night are you ?
I use the lampost chargers when in work, I usually see 4kW, however DLRR are providing free charging and you don't have to pay the parking fee if charging, I checked this with one of the wardens. You need the Ubitricity app and the first time you use it they deduct €8 from your credit card as a confirmation and they return it shortly afterwards. The only problems are they're busy most days and can sometimes be difficult to get a connection. I find you need to have your car off and locked to get a connection.
Do you watch RSymons RSEV he's a good EV guy
Really good guy. We both sponsors a podcast called EV News Daily and I met Richard at the Fully Charged show last Summer
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EVs in production cost the same environmentally as ICEs in production. EV batteries contain rare earth minerals, often mined using children. They’re rare so what happens when they run out? When you plug in your EV, whether at home or public, you’re using, guess what? Fossil fuels to charge your car, unless your electric network is awash with energy produced by renewable sources, which mostly are a very small contributor to the network. Additionally, when everyone plugs in their electric cars to charge them, the electric network will not be able to cope. The batteries when they are at life’s end, will massively pollute the planet. Who wants to buy a 2nd hand EV with doubtful, battery life left? Leaving many 2nd hand EVs to be scrapped - more pollution. Charging network, as you pointed out is hugely problematic. Thieves are now targeting charging cables for the copper and cutting them off charging stations. As a woman, I would want to sit in an expensive car, at the back of a supermarket car park after dark, waiting for my car to charge. Sorry, but EVs are not the green solution we’re being told it is. Remember the lies we were told about diesel fuel and how much better it was for the environment?
An ev produced and run on an average eu grid is lower on co² than an equivalent ICE car in about 3 years of standard use According to most studies.
Even an ev run on electricity from a coal plant is much better co² wise than an ICE car because the coal plant gets more than twice as much energy out of the fuel than an inefficient car engine wasting 70% or more of the energy as heat.
It is true that a lot of batteries use cobalt, and a lot of that comes from places where child Labour does exist. But we are actively working to get away from that with things like lfp batteries that don't use cobalt, and a big cobalt mine being planned in sweden. If you don't want any child mined cobalt in things you use i would recommend avoiding any electronics, or gas for that matter as cobalt is used in the refining process.
There's nothing rare about "rare earth minerals". Lithium is the 17th most common element on earth. It's just spread thin all over the world, and we haven't had much use for many of them before so we haven't mined them much. But we're currently improving on that all over the world.
The electric network will cope fine. If all cars were EVs tomorrow it would on average increase grid demand by 7-10%, but the switch is going to take decades. Heat pumps being installed in uninsulated homes are a much bigger impact on the grid than EVs.
The expected lifespan of current batteries is longer than the rest of the car. They will not need any replacing before the car is scrapped in 20-30 years. And when that happens they can either be reused in other applications where it doesn't matter that they have lost 20-30% capacity (like house batteries where weight is not an issue) or they can be fully recycled like lead acid batteries are today. An old lithium battery is essentially thousands of euros worth of minerals waiting to be extracted. Current recycling extracts over 95% of the minerals and the result is indistinguishable from newly mined minerals.
The charging network will improve, the best option is ofc always home charging. I've never sat anywhere and waited for my car to charge except on long trips, and that's mostly been highway rest stops in the middle of the day.
As for copper thieves, that's more of a social issue than an ev one. If they're poor enough that they're willing to risk their lives cutting live high voltage lines they'll find something to survive on. If this isn't it then maybe they'll go for mugging people instead. The solution is helping people out of that desperate poverty, not banning the use of copper in public spaces.
I understand you've heard all of these concerns you're voicing. But you've been misinformed on all accounts. EVs are the better option, and they are here to stay, and will be replacing gas cars entirely over the next 20-30 years.
Personally i love it. My electric van is much nicer and quieter to drive than my diesel was. I always have a "full tank" in the morning because it charges over night. It's so much cheaper that my brand new electric van costs me less per month than my old diesel van did, because the electricity is so much cheaper than diesel.
Thanks for the reply Matthias
Derek I love ure channel but I disagree with Ure comment life can’t always be convenient, I never let me car go below 3/4 s of a tank of fuel.
I can get in it anytime of the week travel the length of the country in any weather conditions with my heated seats on and air con and not spare a thought other than having to refill in under 5 minutes
Thanks for comment. I think we can't keep living the way we are otherwise we won't have a planet left to be conveniently on!
@@NevoEVReviewIreland I understand that argument but my point is these cars don’t match the outgoing cars
person made climets changes women pickick kids up from school usihd ice suv!
Lots of us to blame unfortunately. Thanks for the comment