Chemex vs. Hario V60
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Waiting for the rinse water to be dumped was the most tense I've felt in years.
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you and I both brother :D
same here
Yes!
count me in, guys! :D
My grandmother was making coffee in a Chemex in the late 1970's and used Melita filters. Hands down, the very best coffee I ever had.
Melita filters are too damn thin. One time I ran out of Chemex filters, so I bought some Melita filters....result was NOT good.
@@mjjm6220 unless you use #6 filters, then you should be good.
@@mjjm6220Agree I find it filters too fast and you get a watery coffee compared to a French Press
Signs that you've been watching too many coffee videos on youtube: loudly saying "whoa what are you doing" out loud despite being alone in a room when you see she doesn't empty out the initial hot water.
hahahahahah
can I just say that your approach to making this video with the use of history and practical information gave off both a charismatic and calming feel to my beginners coffee making experience!
She seems like such a nice person to be around
I also really enjoy watching your videos, thank you.
I had a tough time deciding between the two of these as well. Ended up buying them both and go back and fourth between the two, can't settle on a favourite.
"come over to my house I give you coffee" ...Where did that come from? lol
That made the video for me lol
its a song from rosemary clooney.
It was 'Come on a my house, a my a house, I'm a gonna give you a candy!"
Reminds me of people of Rio de Janeiro when they tell you " come over to my house" or "give me a call" but they did not tell you where they live neither did they give you their phone number..ah ah
Some one please make a meme out of it
Not even into coffee that much, but love watching these videos!
Awesome video. Love the attention to detail and no bullshit approach.
As a total pourover newb (4 days into my first V60), and this is the best video I've found so far for information, technique and the differences to expect from the brewed coffee. Nicely done.
Have you watched James Hoffman or Scott Rao’s v60 videos? Pour over newb myself
Chemex will give smooth light taste compared to the V60 but it all depends on the type of coffee you are using some type of coffee will taste good in the Chemex & some will taste good using V60 I like that some cafes suggest you which coffee to use in the Chemex or v60 at the end it all depends on what you like try the same coffee in each tool & see which will give you the best flavor
I've been taught that with the Chemex you want to give it a swirl to mix the brewed coffee just prior to pouring into the cup. It is supposed to make for a more consistent coffee, especially if you make a bigger quantity.
Love both of these coffee makers! The only ones used in my house!
Thank you for this. I'm new to coffee and doing research on pour overs. This video was clear and enjoyable 🙌
I find, when I try a new coffee I'll do both and choose a favourite method for each particular coffee, usually if it's a lighter roast that I find too acidic I'll use the Chemex, and if it's darker and needs the acidity to be more prominent I'll use a Bialetti Moka pot, and the Hario sits somewhere in the middle. I have the gear acquisition disorder, my kitchen is littered with coffee making tools.
It would be interesting and informative if Seattle Coffee Gear would start doing blind tase comparisons.
@Norbert The Nark , it would be quite eye opening.
Nah that exposes too many self proclaimed experts...same applies to wine, tea, wiskey...
this
Please don't tase any blind people or try to tase anybody while blind
@@Markgangzta This comment is highly underrated.
I find that the recommended grind level for the Chemex is too coarse. I use the exact same level of grind for both the Chemex and the Hario, just one big click finer than they usually recommend for the Chemex, and the coffee comes out perfect every time. And I don't obsess over time, once I know I have the grind level right, I let it do it's thing and remove the filter when all the water has drained through. Lovely.
Very informative. Saw the Chemex on an old rerun of the Mary Tyler More show and wanted more information. Great video!
In love with manual brewing....mostly kenyan coffee amazing...but when it comes to grinding...I think coffee is best grinded when ready for use coz if you pre grind it....remember the enemies of coffee....oxygen being the main so it might interfere with the flavours of the coffee in the cup ...this how I find it best....but this was great...am coming to your house and get coffee 😊
I have a Chemex, and I actually use a fine grind and I like it !
It comes out nice and rich like yours in the Hario!
I've had my Chemex for 3 years and there's no comparison I may try the Hario sometime, but i'm loving the coffee coming out of the Chemex !
Thanks for entertaining us coffee nerds!!
I have always been so curious about comparing these two methods!!! Thanks Gail! ☕️💕
Glad you enjoyed it, Jaclyn!
@@SeattleCoffeeGear How many seconds does it to pour the hot water into the coffee and how many seconds do you break before continuing? I also want to know how many minutes should I take in total to brew both v60 and chemix after the time starts ticking?
The biggest difference between the two is the filters and the fact that you can brew for 2-3 people with the chemex. Brew with the same filter and grind setting in both and you will not be able to tell the difference. The chemex filter adds increased resistance which allows you to use a coarser grind without underextracting. Also, as you mentioned, more of the oils are stripped from the end product resulting in a more tea like delicate cup that should be consumed black.
Double up the filter in the Hario if that is an issue for you.
V60 still has the bypass chemex doesn't.
Sander Schneider What bypass are you referring to?
It's not the same. The Chemex has a much tighter grain.@@raymondhill3
I just bought an OXO glass pour over set, much like these, but with three small holes at the bottom and a basket filter. I did learn how to pour better from you people, lol! And learned to use a gooseneck kettle, so there is cross-over. Btw, I love my coffee this way, it's by far the best coffee I've ever made or had. Thanks for the tips. ;)
Really cool idea to compare/contrast these two! Thanks!
This woman can be my grandma any day, would love to have a cup with her omg
at the acid part I would have loved to see her test that hypothesis out to see if the filters really did have an effect on the acid. Repeat the hario but with 2 or 3 filters to see if there was a difference.
You should create a coffee-talk podcast!
Just got my Chemex this week and it's like I've been drinking sludge for years hahahaha, I can actually taste the notes the roasters speak of very clearly, nice clean cuppa
I have the standard coffee maker drip
Is chemix or v60 any better?
@@Vergil1876 -- I think so. It's more work than an auto drip coffee maker but the added control makes for a more flavorful cup. (Unless you mean you have a cheaper pour-over manual coffee maker like a Melitta; I'm not sure an upgrade to a V60 or Chemex would make *that* much of a difference, although they're more beautiful to hold and look at.)
Vergil1876 standard drip coffee is the worse way to make and drink coffee.
@@rudyburgess8106 even prescion brewer breville?
Vergil1876 I have not had coffee from that Braville coffee maker, and it probably makes a good cup of coffee, but the process of poured over is tops.
Very pleasant to watch. Thanks for your efforts!
Love this video -- I drink black coffee, and I don't like acidity, so I feel like my choice of the Chemex was the right one!
Would love to see a filter comparison including the hemp washable, paper and metal ones.
Thank you so much Gail!!!
Always loved your videos!
I saw a video in which you reviewed the Melitta pour over. Which pour over method would you recommend to use for your everyday coffee, the Hario V60 or the Melitta pour over?
Excellent video. Thanks for taking the time to film and edit it and of course for positing it for our benefit. Keep up the good work! I guess they should tell you to buy a scale when you get the systems.-Migs
Perfect timing! I just got my first chemex yesterday, coming from aero and French Press the last few months
NICE! Enjoy the Chemex!
I would love to see Gail comparing Aeropress with the V60
TH-cam knows what you ordered.
Fantastic job, I enjoyed your informative video immensely 🙂
Interesting! Thanks gail. I started to do with kalita n v60. But I want to tru chemex too. Very informative!
yep, love Gail. She really educated me on the road to drinking pourovers and switching to drinking black coffee. Many thx!
This video is perfect, both on substantive and technical level. Thanks!
Is it better to have the oil or not? Is it bad for you the oils? Or is it just preference? I like smooth coffee but I also like a strong taste as well, just not too strong.
It's very relaxing watching your videos. Very ASMR. Your the Bob Ross of the Coffee world!
Happy beans and happy trees!
I was just thinking this! I didn't need to see a video on this, but I could just keep SCG on autoplay and watch Gail talk about different stuff.
No perky music in the background. Thank you.
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Funny. I was just gifted a Bob Ross Chia Pet.
I have used the chemex for years now and it’s by far my favorite method. Clean cup, no oils and sludge.
Thank you so much for using the metric System
you have answered a question I couldn't find for an annoying amount of time lol! It's basically the filter then that causes the brew to taste different!
Great! Thanks for that info... always wanted to know about what these vessels are all about.😉
Been trying to decide between the Chemex and the Hario, as I have been using my gf's Hario, I like that you pointed to the Hario as the option for 50/50. Still might try the Chemex, do you have to use different grinds for each.
Thanks for doing this, Gail. I just started making pour-over coffee last week with my Hario V60 and like the boldness, but would like to try the lighter aspects of coffee through a Chemex filter. I'm going to try the Chemex filter in my Hario V60 to see the difference for myself and will likely end up purchasing a Chemex system. I like experimenting with different coffees and different roasts.
Update?
Annikichan The Chemex just wasn’t for me. It was too tough to make the same cup of coffee twice, let alone every day. Also, the right filters were a bear to locate. Expensive, too! I am much happier with the Hario V 60.
@@kauaijohn Thank you so much for your reply!
I sometimes use a paper filter in a standard kitchen funnel...don’t hate, coffee purists!
I used a filter in a funnel over a wine bottle for a long time
Mom used to use toilet paper on filter coffee maker when she run out of coffee filters.
Never thought of that...
I used to use a bit of steel wool in a glass pipette. . .oh wait, that was for something else. . .
George Clinton hahaha im fucking dead laughing so hard im crying 😂
Very relaxing to watch
great, clean video thanks.
Thank ou. Very helpful!
i miss you..!!great teacher
Obviously playing with the grind would effect the outcome, I am curious, using the same grind, what's the outcome?
I don't have experience with any one of them but I was looking for how Chemex is good enough to buy it or not...but I think it's good Idea to get it...thank you for this video and thank you TH-cam to suggest it for me 😁
The grinds where different - that alone can make the taste differences you noted.
'were different', and yes, that's gonna make the difference. should be the same otherwise since the method is exactly the same.
@@overinvested What? We are comparing two different ways of making coffee - so the two are compared within the constraints of the correct method. Grind coarseness is part of the method. If you made it the same for both, one would have an advantage over the other. If you were testing the towing capacity of a diesel car vs. a petrol car, you'd use the correct fuel, not just the one fuel for both.
Jaidyn Weight Haha. Not even close to a reasonable or plausible explanation.
@@michaelbrathwaite7019 Jaidyn weight is correct. Grind size differs between these two methods. You might prefer one method over the other but the grind size should match the brew method.
@@michaelbrathwaite7019, Chemex papers have a higher resistance than the V60 papers, causing the water to drain slower through them. Slower water flow means there is a longer extraction time. Thus you need a coarser grind with the Chemex in order to not over-extract the coffee.
Thanx gail, great video..
Thankful for this fantastic. explanation
Again and again great products from Germany vs. Japan ... just came from a chef knive comparison video. Two engineering giants
Nice lady, Nice teaching. Thanks
Do you think the grind size mattered in the taste difference?
What boiler is that? Does it have temperature setting?
Thank you for the wonderful informative video. Where are the kettles from?
Those look like Bonavitas to me.
Awesome Video!
Great points made too Xx
Happy int Coffee Day from Melbourne!!!! 😃
Do you ever stir with first bloom?
With any paper filter, pour over or drip, I always taste some off flavor. I assume it's the filter or perhaps it's just me. Is there a metal screen you recommend?
would cutting the drip have made any difference?
I have a chemex but it's lost its flare in the past 2 years and iv been looking for another good pour over I feel that v60 would be nice
Because these are both drip coffee style brewers, to have a fair assessment of the taste they produced was to use the same grind setting.
The more acidic taste from the v60 could be very much due to being used in it a finer grind, not necessarily or entirely due to the different filter mesh.
It isn't reasonable to use an identical grind when one has nearly 3x as much paper mass. The fairest way to compare the two is to brew them both exactly as they both should be brewed. You don't make it a fair test by brewing one of them wrong.
If she was comparing an Americano to a long black filter, do you think the Espresso and the filter should use an identical grind, too?
This lady is the best
love this video!
Thanks for watching Julia!
What if you use two filters (double)?
Where have you been??? I agree the chemix has a smoother finish but less taste probably because of the oils. I use a vario-w grinder on the coarsest grind (per grinder instructions) but still leaves a very fine dust that slows the drip considerably so switched to the hario 60. I constantly experiment which is fun. We missed you!!
Keep on experimenting and happy brewing!
I've been using a fine mesh sieve to remove the fine coffee particles from my grinds. Makes it much more uniform
As someone else noted, beside the filter paper used, the other variation is the grind size, and I think the taste variance would also be more distinct had you cleansed your palette in between. Nice little video overall, thanks! :)
I've had both and prefer the Hario, hands down. I found the Chemex filters took out too much of the flavour.
Depends on the roast. Light roasts aren't as great in a Chemex because you need a finer grind with a light roast and finer grinds do not work well with the chemex filter. With medium - dark roasts the chemex produces a notable smoother and cleaner more balanced cup of coffee. I'm guessing you prefer light roasts, in which your comment makes perfect sense.
@@jacobpetersen5662 I like dark roasts but my wife can only drink light roasts, so we brew up both. All round, I just like the Hario better. We had a Chemex for years (until a mug fell out of the cupboard and broke it) and thought it was the best until we replaced it with the Hario. We wouldn't go back, though I love the Chemex design.
The Hario looks like a Melitta filter funnel which I have used for years and love it.
Only difference, Melitta has a flat bottom where the coffee pools and falls out of small holes. V60 is a open bottom, a rather large hole. Controlling the drip-down happens by manipulating the amount of water poured in at one time.
Cheers!
I use a ceramic Hario V60, their #2 filters and their 2L thermal carafe. I bloom my coffee, but I don’t rinse my filter. Great cup, and easy clean
This randomly popped into my feed, but this is the video that got me to buy my first chemex and electric kettle 5 years ago. Oh the nostalgia.
Side note, I miss the old Chemex design. Woodless is easier to clean but jeez.
Anyway, thanks for eventually turning me into a espresso nerd for a few years.
Another very nice video! Next time try a Brazilian coffee bean, it is soooooo wonderful and tasty 😁👍☕
Your videos are awesome!
what type of paper used in the Chemex ?
How funny, I stumbled upon this video with a very good Ethiopian natural process here. So, I figured I'd try and replicate your recipe with my Chemex! My draw down time was a bit quicker, but maybe my water was hotter, or something. Anyway, it makes a pretty nice cup!
I think I fund the healthier way to drink coffee, thank You
with lots of heavy cream of course
Are there any cloth filters that can be washed and reused?
Just got the Chemex and love it
Would that be the 6 or 8-cup Chemex?
nice video...thnak you...
I use chemex filters and cut the into 4 squares for my Hario v60. 400 filters out of one box! I use a Schott Duran glass kettle because I don’t like the taste of stainless steel in my mouth. Like having a gun barrel.
I am old school... still have my melitta pour over from 40 years ago.
You should review the Phoenix 70x by Saint Anthony Industry. Really impressed with what they have put together and it fits right in with the pour over conversation
I’m curious about pour overs but love my French press. I can’t imagine a fuller, bolder cup of coffee from a pour over. Guess I’ll have to give one a try. I like the bowl design of the first pour over. I think I’ll try it.
I like them both. If you do a fine grind and a metal mesh filter with the Chemex its pretty close to French press because of the longer extraction time and probably more particulate matter getting through. It makes a pretty rich cup. Right now I think I like the pour over best but it may just be the new toy thing. Get one they are pretty cheap
have you looked at those "clever coffee drippers"? it seems they are a combination of pour over and french press
Use both, like both. Like V60 better.
I used to use a Malita coffee craff w/ filter like those. We were able to put it on the stove to keep it warm. Used drip coffee.
... carafe.
I love my Chemex coffee brewing system. Very smooth and much easier to drink compared to my Mellita "cup of joe" pour over brewer which was starting to get a bit of after taste to it and the Mellita version was much harder on my stomach than the chemex brewing system is. I will not go back to any other form of brewing after using Chemex.
Arnt the oils the good part??
Can one use Chemex filter on Hario?
A teaspoon of activated carbon has the surface area of an American football field. Or so I’m told. A gram has upwards of 3000 meters squared. So grind size difference should account for something I do believe. I’m not aware of surface area studies of difference coffee bean grinds. So I’m obviously crossing over. It’s interesting to contemplate.
Just ordered a V60 from SCG! Couldn't decide between white and red. Kind of wish I went with red now. But maybe that's just because it matches your wall. :)
I wish I wasn't on vacation so I could play with my expreso machine again. Life is never easy :)
i believe the prettiest part of pourovers is the bloom
No final stir or swirl? No well in the grounds before bloom phase?