Good candid summary ! I have owned a 2007 ABS ST 1300 - it was my first really fast, really smooth, super comfortable touring bike ! I sold it because I had other bikes to ride and, well I had sellers remorse...so I bought another Honda ST, this time a really clean low miles 1100....this time a 2002 model, beautiful burgundy color...I actually like the lines and style more than the ST 1300, its a little lighter and just as fun, not as fast, but fast enough...with back rest, wife is very comfy too ! The V4 engine really is something special...at low RPM it produces all the necessary power, I am going to 64 yrs old soon, and I find that its really an incredible bike and if I were younger, I would still love it ! I really enjoy riding a friends Yamaha FJR 1300 which is another story because its very fast and get the RPMs above 6000, and it takes off like a rocket ! However, the comfort and reliability for long trips, where I am not exhausted at the end is what makes the Honda the best for me....keep up your good work ! I enjoy the accent and the talk about your mates (everybody needs mates !)
I'm 69...ride a Suzuki GS1000G raw UJM beast I restored (sooo many issues needed work) yet I yearn for a Honda ST1100 with its reliability and fairings. Almost pushed the button on 2, but too far to get.
I was riding my ST1100 today and was thinking, "What the hell is it about this bike that I enjoy so much?! Why does it seem to fill every one of my desires for a riding machine?". I've owned a TON of motorcycles in my days. I've had the Concours, the BMW R1150rt, the Harley Road King, and a BMW K1100rs. Each one of those had their sweet points... things that made you say, "Ohhhh yeah!". And the ST doesn't really outshine any of those other bikes in the best of what they do. But it's such a well rounded bike, it's scoring out does the others simply by getting a better average score at doing everything combined. For me personally, it's a lot about the ergonomics. I love the instrument cluster visuals. The status lights all at the top in a row, for example. No eye scanning for the particular indicator you need. One quick lowering of the eye and you see that turn signal you forgot to click off. The fuel and temp gauges can be assessed with one glance, not a glance from one side to the other. The clean crisp speedo and tach are so easy to read. I do wish they had cut the needles just shy of the numbers instead of overlapping them over the numbers. I also wish they had made a voltmeter standard like on the police models, as it's a really important thing to see, but I have fitted my own. I can ride this all day long due to the great riding comfort. I also like how they tucked the saddlebags in so tight, yet kept a really nice volume in them. It makes it a lot easier when swinging you leg over the bike. And, yes... it handles extremely well, much like a bike 200 pounds lighter. I think it's because of the low-sitting fuel tank. I'm absolutely in love with my 2001. I got it two months ago and paid $2400US. I did have to put $400 in tires on it. It only has 32K miles on the clock.
I agree with all your points, the tank under the seat provides low down centre of gravity,I think thats why the ST1300 possibly had the " Weave" problem, only my opinion, sadly one of our Merseyside Motorcycle Police Officer's lost his life due to the Weave.
After watching your video and a 20 year break from bikes, I bought a 1996 st1100 for €1250. She's brilliant, changed all filters and pads and she rocks. Great to be back in the saddle. Cheers!
Like the video. As I mentioned in another comment, I've owned a ST1100 for more than 20 years when I fell in love with my current VFR1200F. The Pan is an amazing bike. Driven also the ST1300, found the ST1300 a bit easier to handle on low(er) speeds but the stability on high(er) speeds was definitely won by the ST1100. It runs like it is on rails, so much confidence and a very efficient fuel consumption as well. I'm not surprised that like you the ST1100 that much :). Enjoy it for many, many more years :)
Fantastic video. Hated these bikes when I was in my 30’s & 40’s. Having maxed mileage on my 749 I picked one up for long trips as I reached 49! . They are unbelievable! Fantastic bike. The V4 engine is sublime. Thanks for posting video.
One reason it's easier to toss around is the lower center of gravity thanks to the under the seat gas tank which held over 7 gallons. Back in 2002 I owned both an ST11 (your Pan European) as well as a Ducati Monster 900. I also favored the ST over the Ducati and wound up selling the "sportier" 900. Rode the Tail of the Dragon several times on the ST and made better times through those 318 curves and elevation changes than buddies on sport bikes. Eventually traded it for a Yamaha FJR but I still remember so many trips on that great ST/Pan. And the sweet sounds of that V-4 in your video brought back some good memories. Funny how the sound carries through. I got the same flashback watching a video of my first bike, Honda 305 Scrambler, I bought used in 1970. Ride on!
A few years back i owned 2 pan ST 1100,s,one was 1996 and the other 1999 I loved them both,They took me to every corner of Ireland,a week in Scotland another week in Wales and 2 weeks touring France and Monte Carlo.A few years back I changed to a V-strom 650 because the Pan was getting too heavy for my ole joints (i,m coming 67).The chap who bought my Pan still has it and loves it as much as I did
Hi Johnny, this is Jan here from Holland. When I saw your video I immediately understood what you experienced with your Pan. I've been driving a Pan now for 7 years (my second now). I do not have a lot of experience on other bikes though, but I'm sure a newer bike will have trouble to match the Pan. It's cheap, excellent performance (abs, tcs, cbs) and even looks good. It was wat ahead of it's time back then. So have fun!
I'm 53 and have had a 5 year break from biking - had a blackbird last time and vfrs before that. Don't desire any of the latest new bikes. Inspired by your st1100 and great review. Fun can be had for little money.
I have an almost similar biking history to you. I’m 52, own a SORN Blackbird because I have more fun on, and find my Africa Twin easier to ride. But it’s not about age because in 2003 I had a CBR600Sport and a DRZ400 with a similar situation. That DRZ had me giggling like a school girl in twisty back lanes, and my mates on their 600 sports bikes could not keep up with me and even with seriousness accused me of riding like a tw*t. The problem came when we were on fast A roads as the 39hp was no match for a sportsbike. One day me and my mate swapped and I rode his R6. We were on the tighter twisties, he left me for dead on my DRZ. Bearing in mind I was a current 600 sportsbike owner. When we finally met up again he said, I now know why you ride like you do. None of my mates had ever ridden a bike like the DRZ and didn’t understand it’s all about the riding position, the less and more usable power with the low down grunt a single will give. (similar to a Pan) It was a similar situation in 2016 when I would ride with my mate on his relaunched Africa Twin and me on my Blackbird. But this was on faster roads. Admittedly he is a faster rider than me, but if there were no straights then he was gone. Roll onto 2018 when I got my Africa Twin I could then keep up and was having more fun. Don’t get me wrong I will never get rid of my BB but I don’t have much enthusiasm to get it back on the road because the AT is just so good and practical. My opinion of upright bikes is that you have so much more leverage on the bars and that your input much more at bar level. On a sportsbike you are steering with your arms at an angle of 45 degrees from above, which doesn’t inspire confidence if you’ve not got decent track experience. Who rides full tuck on public roads all of the time even if you are not speeding. Sportsbikeshop were great fun in their day but with speeding technology now it’s just not worth it.
Had my ST1100 for years and i have put 340000 Km on it, never had any problems. Now i have the ST1300 for 3 years and i got to tell you, its even better! Where the ST1100 in some short, slow corners (like in the mountains in Germany) felt a bit heavy, the ST1300 feels like a dream. Just tell her where to go and the Pan will do the rest, i love it.
I never had issues throwing around the corners ST1100, it's like bicycle depends on who is driving it. ST1300 for its shorter wheelbase needs less working on it. I'm coming back again to ST1100 only with abs. In this video I made in Serbian language I presented countersteer with ST and how light can it be driven. Stabilty of ST1100 just beats any bike in the same class on high speeds. No issues on stormy days driving for hours like a train on the tracks. Greetings from Switzerland. th-cam.com/video/__RCRX-ODNU/w-d-xo.html
Deeply impressed with my st1100. Mirror your comments 100%👍. Riding two up mostly and it’s effortless. In the mountain hairpins it’s easy squeegee. So well balanced and easy to hustle along. Comfort is good for about 2 hours though I use an air rider seat to extend the travel time. 61 years old and 180cms tall it fits me like a glove. Heavy when stationary but as soon as it’s moving it’s a big soft fluffy thing that makes long journeys a pleasure the v4 does have a hard edge to it when you want to get a shifty on. Another rider in our little group has the st1300 and agrees the 1100 is more stable. Otherwise we mirror each other with open ,mutual and monotonous appreciation of our pans. Other bits to mention I have noticed tyres are sensitive and go off at about 50% of wear, putting bike on side stand before using the handle for centre stand somehow makes it easier, the catches on the small Honda top box are fiddle, fiddle, wiggle wiggle to get the key in . Really trivial stuff compared to the overall capability of the thing. Honda got it right and for me it’s a better handling bike than the bmw k100/k1100’s I have owned. It’s miles of smiles for me. Like you I have owned all sorts of bikes and quite possibly the pan is the best all round bike for me. It’s just about my all time favourite of all time 🤓. Oh and ‘Father Christmas’ 😄. Ride and enjoy
Hey Jonny. Entertaining vlogs. Like most of the things in my life I bought my ST1100 because it was for sale! Ex-police bike. It's white. Confuses some motorists. Purchased on a Monday (Sep. 2014), left for Darwin the next Friday (from Adelaide). First bike I'd owned in 18 years and it got me there and back with no complaints (6,000km return). Another 3 trips to Darwin and back since then and all have been trouble free. 1,290km in 12 hours on one trip. 130km/h speed limit but I found 140km/h made it possible. Always followed the town speed limits otherwise. 72,000km when purchased, 116,000km now (June 2022). I've had replaced the cush drive and the secondary clutch cylinder. Never left me by the side of the road. Only my second bike (previously a BMW R65 for many years) but I'm hoping this will last me until I cannot ride anymore.
I’ve done exactly the same after buying a shagged, old, high mileage CBF1000. I’ve mended it and now I love it, so easy to ride, smooth, comfortable and plenty fast enough. My other bikes aren’t even getting a look in at the minute
I’ve got a st 1100, I’m 73 years of age and I’ve had loads of bikes over the years, and like you, I nearly bought another bike down at the Nec, but so pleased I’ve come to my senses, I’m keeping the pan !
Amazing video Jonny, love your personality with simplesity and honesty.. and definitely agree with you 💯 % on the comfort and reliability of the ST 1100. I am a proud owner of the Police modle my self and almost diched my wife for loving her more 😂 you ride safe my friend and hope to ride with you some day!
never owned a Honda Pan European ST1100 but I do love them there is something about I don't know what it is but would to own one after watching this Great video Review 👍 I want one even more lol Thanks Jonny Lee 😁👍
Good vid👍 I’ve got my dream cbr650, the one with the gold engine cases,,,,,But I just like looking at it! I ride my ST1300 everywhere, love it, what else is there???? It handles, plenty of grunt, superb weather protection, just put cruise control on it, thinking about some bar risers too!! The cbr just sits in the garage and comes out on a sunny day for about 5 miles 😂😂😂😂😂 you’re are in good company my friend✌️
Hi from across the pond mate like yourself I've been on the bikes since 16 I'm 60 this year and think it's an age thing I've had a D1 zzr 11 a vfr and GS thou I'm now thinking of getting an old pan I'm lanky bollix and feel cramped on sporty yokes keep riding safe for a long time bud cheers 🇮🇪👍
I’ve owned motorcycles since I was 16. I’m turning 65 this summer. I had a lot of different bikes, mostly Hondas should I admit. Among others, I’ve had a 1983 Silverwing and a 1984 Goldwing that I owned for over 30 years. But came a time where I had too much money to put on to keep it reliable and time had done its work. I always had the ST1100 In my mind, thinking I’ll never will have one. But 3 years ago, I ended-up putting my hands on a 2000 ST1100 having only 18000 real KM on it. I have to admit this is for sure the best motorcycle I’ve ever had. Yes It’s a bit an heavy beast and a tall one. I’m not very tall at 5’-7’’ so I have to stand on my toes at stop, but I’m used to. It gives me a smooth ride, enough power for what I need. The V4 motor is really something. It surprises with remarkable agility in traffic and low speed maneuvers nevertheless. I feel very confident on it and the bike is largely predictable. Here where I live, in eastern Canada, the motorcycle season is quite short due to the hard winters we have. So we enjoy each minutes not to say each seconds we can ride. The season will begin soon. The bike is ready , and so am I.
Got my son a ST1100 as back up as he was having issues with his modern bike and taking time to get parts. Cost £870. Needed the supplied neutral switch fitting. Got it home and found it needed a new battery. He's been riding it since spring 22. Been around Wales on it. Toured the Yorkshire Dales and Forest of Bowland area. Needed steering head bearings for the MOT. And that's it. I had a go on it yesterday and also used the word swooshy. It's ridiculously heavy, hard to get in and out of our garage due to a short steep ramp and tight turn, but it's frankly great. He's taken it down some totally unsuitable tiny broken up roads and it's coped fine.
My best friend back in the days bought a new ST1100 in 1994, same color as yours, when he was just 21 years old. He only had a bike licence in that time and he used it every day as others use a car. We have been on a road trip from Germany to Portugal in 1995, he on his Pan and me on my fully customized '84 CB750C. We swapped the bikes a few times for the fun of it, but man, what a difference! I was used to get nearly blown off my bike at about 200 km/h cruising speed with my Ape Hanger steering and my forward footrests and I loved it. On the Pan on the other hand, I could and did roll and smoke cigarettes while driving 200 km/h. It was a bit boring for me back then, felt more like a car to me, but I have to agree that it's actually a great bike. He drove it for 3 years only and had about 150.000 km on it and never had a single problem with it. Than he changed it for a new Susuki racer, he wanted more power and speed for the german motor ways, so instead of 250 km/h max with the Pan he drove then 300-320 km/h every day... ;-) I stayed with my self created never really finished CB till 2013 when I sadly needed to sell it. At the end I even changed the clutch on foot use and a hand shifter on the side, single seat, drop tank from my old crashed CB450, ... Actually apart from the engine, wheels and frame, nothing was original anymore. Things you wouldn't think about to do with a Pan... ;-) Haven't been in a saddle since, no bike nor horse. About time to change both of that again! But I still prefer open naked classic bikes, or if I would go for a ship, I would love to have a good ol' GL1100 again... I see this video is about 1 year old. Hope for you, you still have your Pan and have still fun with it. If you don't crash it, it's about impossible to break them! And you're right, you're not too old for a bike. There's nothing like that! I'm turning 52 soon. Cheers from London...
Well Jonny, at last a review that doesn't go on and on about boring Hondas! I loved my ST1100 but convinced myself that I was getting too old for all that weight (dead weight that is - on the go almost weightless such is the balance). Swapped it for a Deauville....same old crap from so called bikers, shopping trolley etc. Had tours all over Europe solo, no probs. Then joined two organised tours - big mistake full of know-alls and zombies, yes the GS brigade and all the must have latest bike/gear lads and lasses, (yes I was there too when I had more money than sense). Had a bad incident in the Alps and lost all confidence ...after a year missed biking so much I bought a Silverwing - again it thumbed its nose at the anti Honda lemmings, and the anti Scooter mob - if its got 2 wheels and a motor its a motorbike!. Confidence returned and wanted a middleweight - loving my Kawa Vulcan S 650. Just returned from Galicia, Cantabria and Portugal on a solo tour - brill. Lessons learned, stay solo if you are ok with your own company and by all means buy a lighter bike as you age BUT never sell your ST1100, you'll regret it. I'm in my mid 70s but still hanker for the Pan. Have fun.
Low COG and Torque range is probably why you find it pleasing. The fact it's NOT a Race Bike is why you love it. Race bikes need to be raced. This just needs to be enjoyed :D I don't have one, but always wanted one. There's a 2001 for sale in my area with only 53k on it and he's only asking £1800. It probably won't stick around long.
Bought one last year, (2000 with 30,000 miles)and I fell back in love with motorcycles, after 49 years of street bikes. If I had to decide that one of my bikes had to go, it would be heart-breaking, but my Harley would go. (not in my plans in forseeable future, love them both)
Totally agree with you in every point, I used to ride a triumph daytona 955, the wife hated being on the back, can't blame her, who designed the seating position on sports bikes has obviously never sat on one, I was hesitant to buy the pan at first, as I thought it had fell from the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down, but the more I looked at them, the more attractive they seemed, so I bought one, and just like you, I've fallen in love with it, what a great all round bike,........ Enjoy 👍🏻
@@JonnyLeeguitarist may very well be a age thing, I'm 50 as well 😂, got mine June 2020, 29,210miles on it, it's been of the road since Oct last year as mine was nicked too, but its just rolled over to 40,000miles, that how much I love riding it👍🏻😁
Bought one 1995 with 25k miles in Vermont State, put inside a van and now its in my garage here in Massachusetts. Wonderful bike! Only in need of tires and that's all
Nice. Like you I love my old, not too expensive Pan. I also tend to use it more than my other bikes. Honda did a splendid job with the ST1100. I'm less certain of the ST1300. Bear in mind the easy with which you can ride a ST1100 has to do with the low center of gravity. Part of this can be attributed to the fuel tank design. The ST1300 lost this to a certain extent. I have never ridden a ST1300, it would be nice to get comments from folk who have actually ridden both the ST1100 and the ST1300.
I had a chance to extensively ride a 1992 ST1100 as a friend was laid up due to illness for a long time...and the bike came to me for care/ riding, cleaning, and maintenance. All you say here is true. So many strongpoints...smooth, powerful, sporty enough, and very well engineered and built. I've had 22 motorcycles and this is the best of the lot, including Yamahas, Suzukis, Kawasakis, and BMWs. It's powerful enough, handles well enough, does everything well enough. Smooth cream of an engine. The low center of gravity due to engine design and location of gas tank low in the bike makes handling very easy, and yes, the Honda is much easier to handle than Suzuki ZX. Not so easy to push around the garage- just be sure to keep them absolutely upright, but once moving, all is well. People know these bikes and often honk or wave to acknowledge the vintage machine. Score...10/10. Keep the tires to correct inflation, or you may get cupping. I came away thinking Honda is the way to go in older bikes, and maybe all bikes...definitely.
Sadly for your zzr you have now discovered a touring bike. You thought the st1100 was going to be boring but the fact is, its blown you away. People don't understand that that adv and touring bikes are very capable. They are also very forgiving and inspire confidence. I rode a 70k miles st1100 and it rode like brand new. I was expecting it to be dog shit but it blew me away. The gearbox was slick to. The maroon one like yours is the best colour in my opinion. Cool vid by the way.
Haha, this makes my smile. I bought the same bike(yr 2000, 71.000km) 3 weeks ago and I am super happy with it! When I did my testdrive, I fell in love instantly 🙂. Driving it makes me feel like having a great secret, because the bike doesn't directly make a "cool or sexy" impression, but secretly she is a sexy beast in cognito, and maybe they don't know it, but I do know! :-)
Just bought a Pan yesterday 😁 It is a '92 model with 96.000 km experience. Hopefully it will bring me lots of fun. It needs a service though...first things first
I've driven 1000 km with it now. It has been checked and serviced. And I love it! Pleasant and comfortable all-rounder with lots of storage space! Even my daughters and wife went on the back for a ride! Getting a little carried away with it now. 😁👍🏼 Just have to order a set of fresh tires, these are now 14 years old..
You are not old. You are wise. You have tried lots of bikes and you know what's good. I am looking for one here in Boston. A good friend owns the pan 1100 and a pan 1300. More grunt from latter but prefers the 1100. Honda got it right first time. Still relevant in 2022. Great video and talk along. Cheers bro.
Yeah I actually prefer the 1100 , thanks for the kind words . Let me know when you get one and how it is for you . Thanks for watching I appreciate it.
I have a st1100 from 1992. And i fel in love with it its not the most good looking not the most fancy but its the best of sport and touring. I realy feel the same at my bike like you do
I bought an immaculate 2002 ST 1300 a few weeks ago, with incredibly low mileage, i traded my Goldwing 1500 for it. The ST is a serious mile eater, a very capable machine, i love it.
@@JonnyLeeguitarist Goldwings are fantastic bikes, i’ve had Two GL1500’s, and i will always miss them, nothing compares to them in my opinion, but i had to give my last one up as parts we’re becoming scarce and expensive, if you buy one it’s essential to check the exhaust is in system is in good condition because it’s not easy to replace,, and obviously new cam belts. Engines are bulletproof, alternators can fail but easy fix and plenty available. My Goldwing’s handled better than my ST1300, and the long distance comfort is incredible.
I had an ST1100 beautiful bike deeply regretted selling it but I replaced it with an ST1300. Both are great bikes the ST1300 had lower miles but the ST1100 will always have a spot in my heart.
Had my ST1100 for ooh, lets see... nearly 15 years now I think. Absolutely love it to bits. Its getting cosmetically a bit shabby now, but nothing a bit of tlc and a respray wont cure (well after 24yrs and 493,000+ miles thats hardly surprising!) but mechanically sweet as a nut. Gets me where I wanna be when I wanna be there, including a haul ass ride from home (west lancs) to Ukraine n back last year. Ive had loads of bikes, mostly big ones but this is the only one I fell in love with.
I have had both the st1100 and st1300 and loved them both. The 1100 was absolutely brilliant. Beautiful handling with plenty of power. I don’t know what made me do it but traded it in for the 1300 which I did my IAM and ROSPA advanced training on. The 1300 is a lovely, reliable bike. Heavy to push around but once on the move, the weight disappears and it becomes very agile with lots of low down torque. A real mile muncher with a turn of acceleration and speed which surprises a lot of people. Sadly advancing arthritis in my hands brought my riding days to an end. Broke my heart to part with my Pan. In summary I would highly recommend either or both the Pan Europeans. Get one, you won’t go wrong.
Had both, the Pan won for me too. It's hard to say exactly why but I just got more pleasure from riding the Pan, it's so well balanced that it almost disappears underneath you. The riding position is natural with no pressure points. The ZZR growls and needs riding, fantastic bike though.
TH-cam said "We think you'd like this video." And I said "Why are you suggesting a motorcycle video to me?" and TH-cam said "It's Jonny Lee" and I said "Ok, I'll bite." And, the moral of this story is... apparently TH-cam *does* know what videos I'd like, even when I don't. Favorite moment @ 2:43 ("Father Christmas"). But anyway, glad you're enjoying the bike. And glad you changed up my day.
Haaa haa that’s awesome! Thanks for watching mate i appreciate it. Bike videos are rare for me but hey it’s not everyday you pull up next to Father Christmas 🎅
Great review! really funny! I've read great things about the ST, and how great they handle despite looking a bit conservative. My sport bikes kill me with little wind protection, I have a 1987 Ninja750 I totally rebuild and the facebook group is great for that too, no Gixxer bros or anything like that. Been dreaming of a FJR1300 or ST or Concours 1000 to be more comfortable then my ninja and Honda 919.
Jonny your patter is bloody great and down to earth, and yep i can also relate to the "head in the clocks/arse in the air" bikes and riding lol then quite sore when you get off. I had an ST11 a few years ago, i swapped it with a VTRthou, to me it was riding a bloody HGV 😁 and got rid. I'm now hankering after another for some reason now that i'm "older" 😊😂
Good honest review of the Honda ST1100. I've owened a couple of ST1100 and a ST1300. 100% the 1100 is a better bike. High speed stability, weight, smoother.
I've been riding for more then 40 years. VFR750F, CBR1000F, Varadero even a BMW but the day I bought the ST1100... I came home. What a bike! Will I buy another one? Oh yes, an other ST1100 to have as a spare 🙂 If I have to say something negative about this bike then it is the amount of time it takes to do the maintenance or change a lightbulb. It takes for ever to remove the plastic to get to something. Keep on riding!
Just about to receive my Pan tomorrow, Tried a Triumph speed triple T509 after a few years without a bike but tbf I just found it an uncomfortable ride,all be it a powerful machine (And I've had many over the years) I guess Im at the age now where I just prefer comfort and after remembering my old pan from many years ago and finding this 2002 with just 29k on the clock it was a no-brainer! Happy days😁👍
Ive just bought one. im 61 and im taking the misses on the back more n more since she was ill and finds it hard to ride her own bike far. it just seems like the perfect bike for it. where we are both comfortable on long rides. My other bike is a mental streetfighter Blackbird.
Own a 97' with 107K miles..love it. Most comfortable bike I've ever had. Don't get me wrong, I loved my Triumph triples, I've had Great Yamaha's and Kawasaki's, but the ST just fits all my needs. I'm 55 so, yeah, a little old..
just found one low mileage st1100 only 30k miles for 2k with abs and tcs.Had st1100 without abs and after ST1300 and now I'm taking again st1100. I can work on this bike by myself and it is most stabile bike at high speeds than any I tried before.
Hi I own a pan st 1100 now for a year I also have a outstanding bandit 1250 ov had for 6 years riding bandit to coast and back kills me with multiple stops started using pan for day trips out and not one bit of aching body whatsoever I love the bike just servicing it for better weather now and bandit can stay in workshop or might sell it best bike I’ve ever owned pan is she’s so beautiful and effortless to ride love it
I’ve bought an st1100 a few months ago. As a first bike. Plan be, I wanted a bike for two. Me and my wife to cruise and tour around. After some technical difficulties that got repaired. I’m absolutely enjoying this bike. It’s not a little lesson sports bike. But when I come the learn to trust the bike more and more I’ve been going farther and farther. It’s not a scary bike to start on. But be advised this is not a lightweight bike as you mentioned. But I sure have fun with it.
That's the bike Im thinking of...to buy as a second yoke for long journeys...have cb1300sa and I love it but it is to small for 2 persons....Greetings from Poland and see ya on the road..... if I get st1100 I'm gonna do Poland-Ireland trip where I lived for over 12 yrs...
I rode mine from Dunedin to Picton two up fully loaded in a day....got off and went to the pub for dinner. One of the keys to it's handling is that the fuel is under the seat, it handles better with a full tank of fuel not worse....
I spent 170k miles on my 1999. Crisscrossing countries. Couldn’t fault it. The most user-serviceable touring bagger, while not needing almost any service. What a beast.
Heard the same about the 1300, thus I was going to stick with my 1997 1100. the best bike I've ever owned, works well for my riding style. At 65+ it's getting a bit heavy at times but it's like a bicycle on the road. 👍💪✌
Hi I’m 50 to I’ve had my st1100 5 years now. It’s 1991 H reg with 164k still goes well. You like you pan as it balancesed planted. After watching you video you ride well but do your IAM course you will get even more out of the pan. Ride it to the limit you will go out after your course and piss all over your mates and yes that’s on a winter hack pan. Got to love them. Ride safe my friend and enjoy. Steve Scarborough IAM observer plus pan rider
I hope you are still enjoying your ST1100, I have had 2 in the same colour "Wineberry" the first one, I P/X for a Harley, it wasn't for me within a short space of time I bought another Pan ST 1100, I had also bought a new CBF600 SA-8 in 2009 and the plan was maybe to step down to the CBF as I was getting older, however just like your comment the Pan suited me better and 5 years later I sold the CBF with only 1300 miles on the clock from new, sadly my lovely Pan has gone now. I dream about returning to biking all the time. Enjoy and ride Safe.
Cheers Jonny,I am an Ex Huyton lad in Warrington 46 years who misses his Pans, stop posting you are pissing me off 😂👍passed on your vids to my mates.Keep it coming, Chans Chippy for me.
Sold my 99 vfr800 last year because i didnt use it much then found a Pan close to me so i decided to take a look,i had always known about how good riders had said they were but had never ridden one.A year later and i absolutely love the Pan,ive already done more miles this year than i did in a year on the vfr,every thing you say about your Pan is exactly what I have experienced with mine,just at the point i think i will head home i think of another way to go just spend more time on it.Only downside is even though it is good condition it doesn't look has good in garage has the black 99 vfr did.
I'm 63, I still ride my 2000 st1100 and wouldn't change it for a 1300. I love my bike and if this one has to go I try to get another one, still st1100.
@@JonnyLeeguitarist only problem, I'm searching for a solution, I need a rear spring and schockbreaker that can hold a 50 kg more weight than the original and I can't find something what to take
Thank you for sharing !! I do not have a pan but i am becoming more curious about trying out such a type of a motorcycle. I had a similar experience with my current motorcycle which is a 20 yr old aprilia rsv mille (gen1.5) it handles like a 2 stroke in terms of steering, which gave me instant confidence when riding it even after not driving it for along time, i would definetly recomend it if you enjoy Italian styling. Based on what you shared i decided to put the pan on my list for trying / evaluation. - 07:11 i heard you talk about the 1100 and 1300, i remember a talk with a driving instructor who also sweared by the 1100, which according to him was because the rear setup of the 1300 is inferior to that of the 1100.
@@poucxs9246 for me the engine was better , carbs are really smooth when setup right , comfort was better on the 1100 by a long way , more in it than on it . Reliability was better , the 1300 was not comfortable, was way too heavy , and did not have the handling feel of the 1100 . Again just my opinion.
The death wobble kind of begins, or better said I realise when I need to slow down at 130 miles per hour..... I have a 2006 with 60k and I dearly love her !!!!!!
I've owned both the 1100 and 1300, I still have the 1100. I found the 13 to be, as someone has said top heavy, uncomfortable on long trips with numb right hand and sore arse even with an air hawk seat. Consequently I don't own it any longer. The 1100 has just had it's second timing belt and at about 210000 mom's ( I'm in Australia) and that is the only work apart from servicing that she has needed. And like you say they handle due to low centre of gravity. It's just fucking great
Hello Johnny, I watched it again. It is true, we all need a Honda Pan. Last weekend I did a Valve job to it and set the carb's just right. And it feels fantastic. Drive safe.
Mate I’m a young lad with a gang of super bike mates who were all laffin when I got the pan! They still laff for 20 mins after that they beggin to swap pan is a different league
I own a 1998 ST1100 that bought 5 years ago with only 10,000 miles on it. It now shows about 13,000 miles on the odo. I put new tires on it and changes the oil & filter and that’s all it needed. I took the advice of someone here and painted the exhaust pipes with POR15 rust proofing and extended the inner fender to protect the swing arm from getting sand blasted by road debris.
Tested one yesterday. ‘98 model with only 70,000km on the clock. Fabulous ride. One owner from new. Full service history plus bills and docs! Will try it out over the Winter and decide whether it’s a keeper or whether I sell my 2018 ATAS…..
@@JonnyLeeguitarist Tested it for a good half an hour. Such a nice bike to ride. Love my Africa Twin but it's very top-heavy and has a twitchy electronic throttle. That Pan was just a joy to ride. And similar to you, the previous (well current as I haven't picked it up yet!) owner is now 66 and finding it a bit heavy to lug around. I'll let you know in the Spring what I decide. P.S. have watched your clip on the 1300! Cracking find!
Very interesting. Never too late to fall in love with an old bike, even though you already own the top of the line sport gt. Keep the st1100, buy bitcoin now with the 6000 quids. :-)
I have owned my 1992 ST1100 ABS/TCS since 2005 and most likely never sell it. I'm 72 so riding time doesn't include many long trips, but I love l every minute of riding it. It's been bullet proof with fork rebuilds timing belt and valve cover gaskets and not much else. The guy I bought it from bought the 1300, loved the power but missed the stability of the 1100.
Enjoyed the video 😎 I've never been into bikes, but I'm very much the same way about jet skis. Last year I sold my modded 2 stroke stand up ski for a nice big, plush kawi 3 seater. And I love it! It has a kawi 1.5l 4 stroke that was adapted from one of their bikes, don't remember which one, but it is reliable and has great power for a big ski. Nice and comfortable and makes me want to ride again, versus the torture machine my stand up became once I hit my 40's 😉 I guess we're getting old mate 😂
I’m 71 , had my 1990 ST1100 since new. Over 100 years between us. Vin number 0000024
That’s amazing !
wow, how many miles are on the clock now?
Good candid summary ! I have owned a 2007 ABS ST 1300 - it was my first really fast, really smooth, super comfortable touring bike ! I sold it because I had other bikes to ride and, well I had sellers remorse...so I bought another Honda ST, this time a really clean low miles 1100....this time a 2002 model, beautiful burgundy color...I actually like the lines and style more than the ST 1300, its a little lighter and just as fun, not as fast, but fast enough...with back rest, wife is very comfy too ! The V4 engine really is something special...at low RPM it produces all the necessary power, I am going to 64 yrs old soon, and I find that its really an incredible bike and if I were younger, I would still love it ! I really enjoy riding a friends Yamaha FJR 1300 which is another story because its very fast and get the RPMs above 6000, and it takes off like a rocket ! However, the comfort and reliability for long trips, where I am not exhausted at the end is what makes the Honda the best for me....keep up your good work ! I enjoy the accent and the talk about your mates (everybody needs mates !)
Cheers mate . I appreciate you watching
Accent is Scouse😜
I'm 69...ride a Suzuki GS1000G raw UJM beast I restored (sooo many issues needed work) yet I yearn for a Honda ST1100 with its reliability and fairings. Almost pushed the button on 2, but too far to get.
I was riding my ST1100 today and was thinking, "What the hell is it about this bike that I enjoy so much?! Why does it seem to fill every one of my desires for a riding machine?". I've owned a TON of motorcycles in my days. I've had the Concours, the BMW R1150rt, the Harley Road King, and a BMW K1100rs. Each one of those had their sweet points... things that made you say, "Ohhhh yeah!". And the ST doesn't really outshine any of those other bikes in the best of what they do. But it's such a well rounded bike, it's scoring out does the others simply by getting a better average score at doing everything combined. For me personally, it's a lot about the ergonomics. I love the instrument cluster visuals. The status lights all at the top in a row, for example. No eye scanning for the particular indicator you need. One quick lowering of the eye and you see that turn signal you forgot to click off. The fuel and temp gauges can be assessed with one glance, not a glance from one side to the other. The clean crisp speedo and tach are so easy to read. I do wish they had cut the needles just shy of the numbers instead of overlapping them over the numbers. I also wish they had made a voltmeter standard like on the police models, as it's a really important thing to see, but I have fitted my own. I can ride this all day long due to the great riding comfort. I also like how they tucked the saddlebags in so tight, yet kept a really nice volume in them. It makes it a lot easier when swinging you leg over the bike. And, yes... it handles extremely well, much like a bike 200 pounds lighter. I think it's because of the low-sitting fuel tank. I'm absolutely in love with my 2001. I got it two months ago and paid $2400US. I did have to put $400 in tires on it. It only has 32K miles on the clock.
Great points ! . Thanks for watching I appreciate it.
I agree with all your points, the tank under the seat provides low down centre of gravity,I think thats why the ST1300 possibly had the " Weave" problem, only my opinion, sadly one of our Merseyside Motorcycle Police Officer's lost his life due to the Weave.
max how many miles on clock can the 1100 get to, im thinking of getting 1 it has 50k on the clock
@@Haris-ti It’ll go to 100k before any major issues. 150k if well maintained. 200K for many has been possible.
@SinnerSince1962 yep pretty amazing
After watching your video and a 20 year break from bikes, I bought a 1996 st1100 for €1250. She's brilliant, changed all filters and pads and she rocks. Great to be back in the saddle. Cheers!
Nice one! That’s brilliant mate . Thanks for watching. Good luck out there and stay safe .
Lad, you meet the nicest people on a Honda. Remember?
Yes you do 😎
Like the video. As I mentioned in another comment, I've owned a ST1100 for more than 20 years when I fell in love with my current VFR1200F. The Pan is an amazing bike. Driven also the ST1300, found the ST1300 a bit easier to handle on low(er) speeds but the stability on high(er) speeds was definitely won by the ST1100. It runs like it is on rails, so much confidence and a very efficient fuel consumption as well. I'm not surprised that like you the ST1100 that much :).
Enjoy it for many, many more years :)
Thanks for the ride. I understand your love for the Pan. Never missing a beat! Cheers man.
Cheers mate
Fantastic video. Hated these bikes when I was in my 30’s & 40’s. Having maxed mileage on my 749 I picked one up for long trips as I reached 49! . They are unbelievable! Fantastic bike. The V4 engine is sublime. Thanks for posting video.
Thanks for watching
I've seen riders criticize the ST's, then they eat their words a few years later when they actually ride one.
In more than 55 years of riding an't 60+ bikes owned my ST1100 still remains my favorite touring ride.
Yes 🙌
true dat
Best attitude towards an unexpected conversion. Cheers!
One reason it's easier to toss around is the lower center of gravity thanks to the under the seat gas tank which held over 7 gallons. Back in 2002 I owned both an ST11 (your Pan European) as well as a Ducati Monster 900. I also favored the ST over the Ducati and wound up selling the "sportier" 900. Rode the Tail of the Dragon several times on the ST and made better times through those 318 curves and elevation changes than buddies on sport bikes. Eventually traded it for a Yamaha FJR but I still remember so many trips on that great ST/Pan. And the sweet sounds of that V-4 in your video brought back some good memories. Funny how the sound carries through. I got the same flashback watching a video of my first bike, Honda 305 Scrambler, I bought used in 1970. Ride on!
Thanks for watching mate i appreciate it .
A few years back i owned 2 pan ST 1100,s,one was 1996 and the other 1999 I loved them both,They took me to every corner of Ireland,a week in Scotland another week in Wales and 2 weeks touring France and Monte Carlo.A few years back I changed to a V-strom 650 because the Pan was getting too heavy for my ole joints (i,m coming 67).The chap who bought my Pan still has it and loves it as much as I did
Yeah I quite fancy a V strom 1000.
Got a 95' Pan 4 yrs ago...love the sound & acceleration...proud to own it
Yeah they’re pretty amazing. Thanks for watching I appreciate it.
yea, mine is a 96. four times across the country. tit bike
Hi Johnny, this is Jan here from Holland. When I saw your video I immediately understood what you experienced with your Pan. I've been driving a Pan now for 7 years (my second now). I do not have a lot of experience on other bikes though, but I'm sure a newer bike will have trouble to match the Pan. It's cheap, excellent performance (abs, tcs, cbs) and even looks good. It was wat ahead of it's time back then. So have fun!
Thanks mate , yeah it’s definitely perfect . Thanks for watching i appreciate it .
I've travelled up and down the country on one. I'm in love with the model 😍
I'm 53 and have had a 5 year break from biking - had a blackbird last time and vfrs before that. Don't desire any of the latest new bikes. Inspired by your st1100 and great review. Fun can be had for little money.
Can’t fail with one of these . Great bike .
I have an almost similar biking history to you. I’m 52, own a SORN Blackbird because I have more fun on, and find my Africa Twin easier to ride. But it’s not about age because in 2003 I had a CBR600Sport and a DRZ400 with a similar situation. That DRZ had me giggling like a school girl in twisty back lanes, and my mates on their 600 sports bikes could not keep up with me and even with seriousness accused me of riding like a tw*t. The problem came when we were on fast A roads as the 39hp was no match for a sportsbike.
One day me and my mate swapped and I rode his R6. We were on the tighter twisties, he left me for dead on my DRZ. Bearing in mind I was a current 600 sportsbike owner. When we finally met up again he said, I now know why you ride like you do. None of my mates had ever ridden a bike like the DRZ and didn’t understand it’s all about the riding position, the less and more usable power with the low down grunt a single will give. (similar to a Pan)
It was a similar situation in 2016 when I would ride with my mate on his relaunched Africa Twin and me on my Blackbird. But this was on faster roads. Admittedly he is a faster rider than me, but if there were no straights then he was gone. Roll onto 2018 when I got my Africa Twin I could then keep up and was having more fun. Don’t get me wrong I will never get rid of my BB but I don’t have much enthusiasm to get it back on the road because the AT is just so good and practical.
My opinion of upright bikes is that you have so much more leverage on the bars and that your input much more at bar level. On a sportsbike you are steering with your arms at an angle of 45 degrees from above, which doesn’t inspire confidence if you’ve not got decent track experience. Who rides full tuck on public roads all of the time even if you are not speeding. Sportsbikeshop were great fun in their day but with speeding technology now it’s just not worth it.
DRZ is on my list 😎
Had my ST1100 for years and i have put 340000 Km on it, never had any problems. Now i have the ST1300 for 3 years and i got to tell you, its even better! Where the ST1100 in some short, slow corners (like in the mountains in Germany) felt a bit heavy, the ST1300 feels like a dream. Just tell her where to go and the Pan will do the rest, i love it.
Yeah you can definitely throw them about , no doubt .
I never had issues throwing around the corners ST1100, it's like bicycle depends on who is driving it. ST1300 for its shorter wheelbase needs less working on it. I'm coming back again to ST1100 only with abs. In this video I made in Serbian language I presented countersteer with ST and how light can it be driven. Stabilty of ST1100 just beats any bike in the same class on high speeds. No issues on stormy days driving for hours like a train on the tracks. Greetings from Switzerland.
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There's that shorter wheelbase coming into play
Deeply impressed with my st1100. Mirror your comments 100%👍. Riding two up mostly and it’s effortless. In the mountain hairpins it’s easy squeegee. So well balanced and easy to hustle along. Comfort is good for about 2 hours though I use an air rider seat to extend the travel time. 61 years old and 180cms tall it fits me like a glove. Heavy when stationary but as soon as it’s moving it’s a big soft fluffy thing that makes long journeys a pleasure the v4 does have a hard edge to it when you want to get a shifty on. Another rider in our little group has the st1300 and agrees the 1100 is more stable. Otherwise we mirror each other with open ,mutual and monotonous appreciation of our pans. Other bits to mention I have noticed tyres are sensitive and go off at about 50% of wear, putting bike on side stand before using the handle for centre stand somehow makes it easier, the catches on the small Honda top box are fiddle, fiddle, wiggle wiggle to get the key in . Really trivial stuff compared to the overall capability of the thing. Honda got it right and for me it’s a better handling bike than the bmw k100/k1100’s I have owned. It’s miles of smiles for me. Like you I have owned all sorts of bikes and quite possibly the pan is the best all round bike for me. It’s just about my all time favourite of all time 🤓. Oh and ‘Father Christmas’ 😄. Ride and enjoy
I agree mate . Thanks for watching I appreciate it. Everyone loves Father Christmas 🎅
Agree
Hey Jonny. Entertaining vlogs. Like most of the things in my life I bought my ST1100 because it was for sale! Ex-police bike. It's white. Confuses some motorists. Purchased on a Monday (Sep. 2014), left for Darwin the next Friday (from Adelaide). First bike I'd owned in 18 years and it got me there and back with no complaints (6,000km return). Another 3 trips to Darwin and back since then and all have been trouble free. 1,290km in 12 hours on one trip. 130km/h speed limit but I found 140km/h made it possible. Always followed the town speed limits otherwise. 72,000km when purchased, 116,000km now (June 2022). I've had replaced the cush drive and the secondary clutch cylinder. Never left me by the side of the road. Only my second bike (previously a BMW R65 for many years) but I'm hoping this will last me until I cannot ride anymore.
That’s awesome mate . Yeah it will definitely last . Ride safe buddy. Thanks for watching
I’ve done exactly the same after buying a shagged, old, high mileage CBF1000. I’ve mended it and now I love it, so easy to ride, smooth, comfortable and plenty fast enough. My other bikes aren’t even getting a look in at the minute
The CBF is a great bike!
@@JonnyLeeguitarist Took me by complete surprise I can tell you
old man here bought a st1100 on a lark and fell in love with the sport touring position who knew I understand your love for it have similar feelings
They definitely infect us
love your honest review.... lovely reflection on character. thanks for sharing mate
Thanks for watching mate
I’ve got a st 1100, I’m 73 years of age and I’ve had loads of bikes over the years, and like you, I nearly bought another bike down at the Nec, but so pleased I’ve come to my senses, I’m keeping the pan !
Yeah I didn’t even think about another bike at the NEC this year . Still love the pan
Pantastic!
Amazing video Jonny, love your personality with simplesity and honesty.. and definitely agree with you 💯 % on the comfort and reliability of the ST 1100. I am a proud owner of the Police modle my self and almost diched my wife for loving her more 😂 you ride safe my friend and hope to ride with you some day!
Cheers for watching mate ! . Who knows our paths may cross 😎
never owned a Honda Pan European ST1100 but I do love them there is something about I don't know what it is but would to own one after watching this Great video Review 👍 I want one even more lol Thanks Jonny Lee 😁👍
Thanks for watching mate . I appreciate it.
Good vid👍 I’ve got my dream cbr650, the one with the gold engine cases,,,,,But I just like looking at it! I ride my ST1300 everywhere, love it, what else is there???? It handles, plenty of grunt, superb weather protection, just put cruise control on it, thinking about some bar risers too!! The cbr just sits in the garage and comes out on a sunny day for about 5 miles 😂😂😂😂😂 you’re are in good company my friend✌️
Ticks all the boxes 😎
Love my 93 ST1100. 88,000 miles and still kicking hard
Yeah miles mean nothing to these bikes .
Love this bike to death.
It "fits" me like a glove.
The 1300 is also wonderful but just different.
Ride both and let us know ..
Yeah man it’s amazing
Hi from across the pond mate like yourself I've been on the bikes since 16 I'm 60 this year and think it's an age thing I've had a D1 zzr 11 a vfr and GS thou I'm now thinking of getting an old pan I'm lanky bollix and feel cramped on sporty yokes keep riding safe for a long time bud cheers 🇮🇪👍
Cheers mate , let me know if you get one , you’ll love it . Thanks for watching 🙏
I’ve owned motorcycles since I was 16. I’m turning 65 this summer. I had a lot of different bikes, mostly Hondas should I admit. Among others, I’ve had a 1983 Silverwing and a 1984 Goldwing that I owned for over 30 years. But came a time where I had too much money to put on to keep it reliable and time had done its work. I always had the ST1100 In my mind, thinking I’ll never will have one. But 3 years ago, I ended-up putting my hands on a 2000 ST1100 having only 18000 real KM on it. I have to admit this is for sure the best motorcycle I’ve ever had. Yes It’s a bit an heavy beast and a tall one. I’m not very tall at 5’-7’’ so I have to stand on my toes at stop, but I’m used to. It gives me a smooth ride, enough power for what I need. The V4 motor is really something. It surprises with remarkable agility in traffic and low speed maneuvers nevertheless. I feel very confident on it and the bike is largely predictable.
Here where I live, in eastern Canada, the motorcycle season is quite short due to the hard winters we have. So we enjoy each minutes not to say each seconds we can ride. The season will begin soon. The bike is ready , and so am I.
Stay safe buddy 😎
Garooovy
@vintagebikes4215 😎
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custom corbin saddle will drop bike height over an inch
Just bought one - freakin' love it! 👍
Enjoy!
Got my son a ST1100 as back up as he was having issues with his modern bike and taking time to get parts. Cost £870. Needed the supplied neutral switch fitting. Got it home and found it needed a new battery. He's been riding it since spring 22. Been around Wales on it. Toured the Yorkshire Dales and Forest of Bowland area. Needed steering head bearings for the MOT. And that's it. I had a go on it yesterday and also used the word swooshy. It's ridiculously heavy, hard to get in and out of our garage due to a short steep ramp and tight turn, but it's frankly great. He's taken it down some totally unsuitable tiny broken up roads and it's coped fine.
Cool dad points right there 😎
My best friend back in the days bought a new ST1100 in 1994, same color as yours, when he was just 21 years old. He only had a bike licence in that time and he used it every day as others use a car. We have been on a road trip from Germany to Portugal in 1995, he on his Pan and me on my fully customized '84 CB750C. We swapped the bikes a few times for the fun of it, but man, what a difference!
I was used to get nearly blown off my bike at about 200 km/h cruising speed with my Ape Hanger steering and my forward footrests and I loved it. On the Pan on the other hand, I could and did roll and smoke cigarettes while driving 200 km/h. It was a bit boring for me back then, felt more like a car to me, but I have to agree that it's actually a great bike. He drove it for 3 years only and had about 150.000 km on it and never had a single problem with it. Than he changed it for a new Susuki racer, he wanted more power and speed for the german motor ways, so instead of 250 km/h max with the Pan he drove then 300-320 km/h every day... ;-)
I stayed with my self created never really finished CB till 2013 when I sadly needed to sell it. At the end I even changed the clutch on foot use and a hand shifter on the side, single seat, drop tank from my old crashed CB450, ... Actually apart from the engine, wheels and frame, nothing was original anymore. Things you wouldn't think about to do with a Pan... ;-)
Haven't been in a saddle since, no bike nor horse. About time to change both of that again!
But I still prefer open naked classic bikes, or if I would go for a ship, I would love to have a good ol' GL1100 again...
I see this video is about 1 year old. Hope for you, you still have your Pan and have still fun with it. If you don't crash it, it's about impossible to break them!
And you're right, you're not too old for a bike. There's nothing like that! I'm turning 52 soon.
Cheers from London...
Yep she’s still with me 😎
@@JonnyLeeguitaristGood for you... ;-)
Well Jonny, at last a review that doesn't go on and on about boring Hondas! I loved my ST1100 but convinced myself that I was getting too old for all that weight (dead weight that is - on the go almost weightless such is the balance). Swapped it for a Deauville....same old crap from so called bikers, shopping trolley etc. Had tours all over Europe solo, no probs. Then joined two organised tours - big mistake full of know-alls and zombies, yes the GS brigade and all the must have latest bike/gear lads and lasses, (yes I was there too when I had more money than sense). Had a bad incident in the Alps and lost all confidence ...after a year missed biking so much I bought a Silverwing - again it thumbed its nose at the anti Honda lemmings, and the anti Scooter mob - if its got 2 wheels and a motor its a motorbike!. Confidence returned and wanted a middleweight - loving my Kawa Vulcan S 650. Just returned from Galicia, Cantabria and Portugal on a solo tour - brill. Lessons learned, stay solo if you are ok with your own company and by all means buy a lighter bike as you age BUT never sell your ST1100, you'll regret it. I'm in my mid 70s but still hanker for the Pan. Have fun.
Cheers mate , yes I’m all about the solo adventures , any bike is a good bike 😎
Zee be the wise one.
Low COG and Torque range is probably why you find it pleasing.
The fact it's NOT a Race Bike is why you love it.
Race bikes need to be raced. This just needs to be enjoyed :D
I don't have one, but always wanted one. There's a 2001 for sale in my area with only 53k on it and he's only asking £1800. It probably won't stick around long.
That’s all true and a great price for that bike ! Buy it !!!
Bought one last year, (2000 with 30,000 miles)and I fell back in love with motorcycles, after 49 years of street bikes. If I had to decide that one of my bikes had to go, it would be heart-breaking, but my Harley would go. (not in my plans in forseeable future, love them both)
Yeah I’ve got 2 of these now . The addiction is real .
Totally agree with you in every point, I used to ride a triumph daytona 955, the wife hated being on the back, can't blame her, who designed the seating position on sports bikes has obviously never sat on one, I was hesitant to buy the pan at first, as I thought it had fell from the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down, but the more I looked at them, the more attractive they seemed, so I bought one, and just like you, I've fallen in love with it, what a great all round bike,........ Enjoy 👍🏻
Yeah I love this thing … thanks for watching I appreciate it.
@@JonnyLeeguitarist may very well be a age thing, I'm 50 as well 😂, got mine June 2020, 29,210miles on it, it's been of the road since Oct last year as mine was nicked too, but its just rolled over to 40,000miles, that how much I love riding it👍🏻😁
Hilarious bits about “chicken strips” from the Fb groups. I enjoyed the video. Thank you!
Thanks for watching mate I appreciate it .
Love this! We would be instant friends! Sport bikes are beautiful but as you get older you just want to ride in comfort.
Yeah definitely mate , comfort is everything now .
Bought one 1995 with 25k miles in Vermont State, put inside a van and now its in my garage here in Massachusetts. Wonderful bike! Only in need of tires and that's all
Enjoy ! And thanks for watching, I appreciate it.
Nice. Like you I love my old, not too expensive Pan. I also tend to use it more than my other bikes. Honda did a splendid job with the ST1100. I'm less certain of the ST1300. Bear in mind the easy with which you can ride a ST1100 has to do with the low center of gravity. Part of this can be attributed to the fuel tank design. The ST1300 lost this to a certain extent. I have never ridden a ST1300, it would be nice to get comments from folk who have actually ridden both the ST1100 and the ST1300.
Yeah the 1100 is so much nicer to ride
I had a chance to extensively ride a 1992 ST1100 as a friend was laid up due to illness for a long time...and the bike came to me for care/ riding, cleaning, and maintenance. All you say here is true. So many strongpoints...smooth, powerful, sporty enough, and very well engineered and built. I've had 22 motorcycles and this is the best of the lot, including Yamahas, Suzukis, Kawasakis, and BMWs. It's powerful enough, handles well enough, does everything well enough. Smooth cream of an engine. The low center of gravity due to engine design and location of gas tank low in the bike makes handling very easy, and yes, the Honda is much easier to handle than Suzuki ZX. Not so easy to push around the garage- just be sure to keep them absolutely upright, but once moving, all is well. People know these bikes and often honk or wave to acknowledge the vintage machine. Score...10/10. Keep the tires to correct inflation, or you may get cupping. I came away thinking Honda is the way to go in older bikes, and maybe all bikes...definitely.
I agree
Sadly for your zzr you have now discovered a touring bike. You thought the st1100 was going to be boring but the fact is, its blown you away. People don't understand that that adv and touring bikes are very capable. They are also very forgiving and inspire confidence. I rode a 70k miles st1100 and it rode like brand new. I was expecting it to be dog shit but it blew me away. The gearbox was slick to. The maroon one like yours is the best colour in my opinion. Cool vid by the way.
Thanks mate , yeah I have 2 now 😎
Haha, this makes my smile. I bought the same bike(yr 2000, 71.000km) 3 weeks ago and I am super happy with it! When I did my testdrive, I fell in love instantly 🙂. Driving it makes me feel like having a great secret, because the bike doesn't directly make a "cool or sexy" impression, but secretly she is a sexy beast in cognito, and maybe they don't know it, but I do know! :-)
Yeah they do something to you 😎
You should do more bike videos, you have real talent and personality for it.
Thanks mate
Just bought a Pan yesterday 😁 It is a '92 model with 96.000 km experience. Hopefully it will bring me lots of fun.
It needs a service though...first things first
You’ll love it . Come back and tell me what it’s like 👍
I've driven 1000 km with it now. It has been checked and serviced. And I love it! Pleasant and comfortable all-rounder with lots of storage space! Even my daughters and wife went on the back for a ride! Getting a little carried away with it now. 😁👍🏼 Just have to order a set of fresh tires, these are now 14 years old..
You are not old. You are wise. You have tried lots of bikes and you know what's good. I am looking for one here in Boston. A good friend owns the pan 1100 and a pan 1300. More grunt from latter but prefers the 1100. Honda got it right first time. Still relevant in 2022. Great video and talk along. Cheers bro.
Yeah I actually prefer the 1100 , thanks for the kind words . Let me know when you get one and how it is for you . Thanks for watching I appreciate it.
@@JonnyLeeguitarist subbed..keep the bike stuff coming!!
@@Roger_Ramjet thanks dude !
@@JonnyLeeguitarist I picked one up last October....one owner 2001...it's been great 👍👍👍
I've had 3 of these. And now I'm about to buy my 4th.
Yeah they’re amazing .
Had a bunch of Hondas. Boringly dependable/reliable. 😊 Be Safe and Best Regards and Best Wishes!
Thanks, you too!
I have a st1100 from 1992. And i fel in love with it its not the most good looking not the most fancy but its the best of sport and touring. I realy feel the same at my bike like you do
They’re pretty amazing
I bought an immaculate 2002 ST 1300 a few weeks ago, with incredibly low mileage, i traded my Goldwing 1500 for it. The ST is a serious mile eater, a very capable machine, i love it.
Goldwing is next on my list 😎
@@JonnyLeeguitarist Goldwings are fantastic bikes, i’ve had Two GL1500’s, and i will always miss them, nothing compares to them in my opinion, but i had to give my last one up as parts we’re becoming scarce and expensive, if you buy one it’s essential to check the exhaust is in system is in good condition because it’s not easy to replace,, and obviously new cam belts. Engines are bulletproof, alternators can fail but easy fix and plenty available. My Goldwing’s handled better than my ST1300, and the long distance comfort is incredible.
Had a 1984 Goldwing, it was a pig...I let the piggy go.
I had an ST1100 beautiful bike deeply regretted selling it but I replaced it with an ST1300. Both are great bikes the ST1300 had lower miles but the ST1100 will always have a spot in my heart.
Yeah I prefer the 1100 it’s awesome .
Had my ST1100 for ooh, lets see... nearly 15 years now I think. Absolutely love it to bits. Its getting cosmetically a bit shabby now, but nothing a bit of tlc and a respray wont cure (well after 24yrs and 493,000+ miles thats hardly surprising!) but mechanically sweet as a nut. Gets me where I wanna be when I wanna be there, including a haul ass ride from home (west lancs) to Ukraine n back last year.
Ive had loads of bikes, mostly big ones but this is the only one I fell in love with.
Yes sir ! Ticks all the boxes
What a bike. Sooo smooth riding
Yes sir 😎
I have had both the st1100 and st1300 and loved them both. The 1100 was absolutely brilliant. Beautiful handling with plenty of power. I don’t know what made me do it but traded it in for the 1300 which I did my IAM and ROSPA advanced training on. The 1300 is a lovely, reliable bike. Heavy to push around but once on the move, the weight disappears and it becomes very agile with lots of low down torque. A real mile muncher with a turn of acceleration and speed which surprises a lot of people. Sadly advancing arthritis in my hands brought my riding days to an end. Broke my heart to part with my Pan. In summary I would highly recommend either or both the Pan Europeans. Get one, you won’t go wrong.
I agree ☝️
Had both, the Pan won for me too. It's hard to say exactly why but I just got more pleasure from riding the Pan, it's so well balanced that it almost disappears underneath you. The riding position is natural with no pressure points. The ZZR growls and needs riding, fantastic bike though.
I agree
TH-cam said "We think you'd like this video." And I said "Why are you suggesting a motorcycle video to me?" and TH-cam said "It's Jonny Lee" and I said "Ok, I'll bite." And, the moral of this story is... apparently TH-cam *does* know what videos I'd like, even when I don't.
Favorite moment @ 2:43 ("Father Christmas"). But anyway, glad you're enjoying the bike. And glad you changed up my day.
Haaa haa that’s awesome! Thanks for watching mate i appreciate it. Bike videos are rare for me but hey it’s not everyday you pull up next to Father Christmas 🎅
Thanks for the reminder of the Wirral area👍
No problem 😉
Great review! really funny! I've read great things about the ST, and how great they handle despite looking a bit conservative. My sport bikes kill me with little wind protection, I have a 1987 Ninja750 I totally rebuild and the facebook group is great for that too, no Gixxer bros or anything like that. Been dreaming of a FJR1300 or ST or Concours 1000 to be more comfortable then my ninja and Honda 919.
Yeah I have a 1997 ZX7r as a play thing , very uncomfortable 😣.. the st1100 is perfect .
@@JonnyLeeguitarist I can't handle the bend over sport bike, I wonder if even at 20 years old could I tolerate it! ZX7r is totally awesome!
Jonny your patter is bloody great and down to earth, and yep i can also relate to the "head in the clocks/arse in the air" bikes and riding lol then quite sore when you get off. I had an ST11 a few years ago, i swapped it with a VTRthou, to me it was riding a bloody HGV 😁 and got rid. I'm now hankering after another for some reason now that i'm "older" 😊😂
Yeah mate , it’s the gentlemans rocket ship . Thanks for watching I appreciate it.
Good honest review of the Honda ST1100. I've owened a couple of ST1100 and a ST1300. 100% the 1100 is a better bike. High speed stability, weight, smoother.
Cheers mate , yeah a lot of people think that . It’s a perfect bike. Thanks for watching.
Helpful for me to know...thx
I like the story in your vid.😎
Cheers mate
I've been riding for more then 40 years. VFR750F, CBR1000F, Varadero even a BMW but the day I bought the ST1100... I came home. What a bike! Will I buy another one? Oh yes, an other ST1100 to have as a spare 🙂 If I have to say something negative about this bike then it is the amount of time it takes to do the maintenance or change a lightbulb. It takes for ever to remove the plastic to get to something. Keep on riding!
I agree the maintenance is a pain 😂
Just about to receive my Pan tomorrow, Tried a Triumph speed triple T509 after a few years without a bike but tbf I just found it an uncomfortable ride,all be it a powerful machine (And I've had many over the years)
I guess Im at the age now where I just prefer comfort and after remembering my old pan from many years ago and finding this 2002 with just 29k on the clock it was a no-brainer! Happy days😁👍
That’s low mileage ! Sounds like a bargain . Come back and let me know what it’s like 👍
@@JonnyLeeguitarist will do bud👍
I’m on the st elite site and yes they’re a really great bunch they’ve helped me alot
Great bunch on there .
Ive just bought one. im 61 and im taking the misses on the back more n more since she was ill and finds it hard to ride her own bike far. it just seems like the perfect bike for it. where we are both comfortable on long rides. My other bike is a mental streetfighter Blackbird.
Yeah my wife is the same , she loves the Pan .
I'm 71 and still riding my Blackbird, not so often these days but I still do it.
That’s awesome!
Own a 97' with 107K miles..love it. Most comfortable bike I've ever had. Don't get me wrong, I loved my Triumph triples, I've had Great Yamaha's and Kawasaki's, but the ST just fits all my needs. I'm 55 so, yeah, a little old..
We need to be comfortable in our 50s mate 😂
just found one low mileage st1100 only 30k miles for 2k with abs and tcs.Had st1100 without abs and after ST1300 and now I'm taking again st1100. I can work on this bike by myself and it is most stabile bike at high speeds than any I tried before.
Johnny needs to get on the bike more often 😂.
Definitely mate . 😅
Hi I own a pan st 1100 now for a year I also have a outstanding bandit 1250 ov had for 6 years riding bandit to coast and back kills me with multiple stops started using pan for day trips out and not one bit of aching body whatsoever I love the bike just servicing it for better weather now and bandit can stay in workshop or might sell it best bike I’ve ever owned pan is she’s so beautiful and effortless to ride love it
Yeah they’re amazing .
I’ve bought an st1100 a few months ago. As a first bike. Plan be, I wanted a bike for two. Me and my wife to cruise and tour around.
After some technical difficulties that got repaired. I’m absolutely enjoying this bike.
It’s not a little lesson sports bike. But when I come the learn to trust the bike more and more I’ve been going farther and farther.
It’s not a scary bike to start on. But be advised this is not a lightweight bike as you mentioned. But I sure have fun with it.
Heavy but fun . Just like me ! 😉
@@JonnyLeeguitarist 😂 it’s not only you.
Be very careful when walking the bike, keep it absolutely upright and you'll have no problems, once under power it's a floating train with wings.
That's the bike Im thinking of...to buy as a second yoke for long journeys...have cb1300sa and I love it but it is to small for 2 persons....Greetings from Poland and see ya on the road..... if I get st1100 I'm gonna do Poland-Ireland trip where I lived for over 12 yrs...
Get one you’ll love it .
I rode mine from Dunedin to Picton two up fully loaded in a day....got off and went to the pub for dinner.
One of the keys to it's handling is that the fuel is under the seat, it handles better with a full tank of fuel not worse....
I agree
After 5 years on the ST13 and I’m still surprised never missed a beat
Yeah the ST13 I just got is pretty solid
@@JonnyLeeguitarist enjoy
Great video mate, thanks!
No problem, thanks for watching I appreciate it.
I spent 170k miles on my 1999. Crisscrossing countries. Couldn’t fault it. The most user-serviceable touring bagger, while not needing almost any service. What a beast.
They’re so good at doing that
Heard the same about the 1300, thus I was going to stick with my 1997 1100. the best bike I've ever owned, works well for my riding style. At 65+ it's getting a bit heavy at times but it's like a bicycle on the road.
👍💪✌
Hi I’m 50 to I’ve had my st1100 5 years now. It’s 1991 H reg with 164k still goes well.
You like you pan as it balancesed planted.
After watching you video you ride well but do your IAM course you will get even more out of the pan.
Ride it to the limit you will go out after your course and piss all over your mates and yes that’s on a winter hack pan. Got to love them.
Ride safe my friend and enjoy.
Steve Scarborough IAM observer plus pan rider
Cheers
I hope you are still enjoying your ST1100, I have had 2 in the same colour "Wineberry" the first one, I P/X for a Harley, it wasn't for me within a short space of time I bought another Pan ST 1100, I had also bought a new CBF600 SA-8 in 2009 and the plan was maybe to step down to the CBF as I was getting older, however just like your comment the Pan suited me better and 5 years later I sold the CBF with only 1300 miles on the clock from new, sadly my lovely Pan has gone now. I dream about returning to biking all the time. Enjoy and ride Safe.
Yeah I still love my 1100 , She’s perfect . Thanks for watching I appreciate it. 🙏
Cheers Jonny,I am an Ex Huyton lad in Warrington 46 years who misses his Pans, stop posting you are pissing me off 😂👍passed on your vids to my mates.Keep it coming, Chans Chippy for me.
@@Pan1man4 😅
love it. am on my 3rd st1100
Yes ! 😎
Sold my 99 vfr800 last year because i didnt use it much then found a Pan close to me so i decided to take a look,i had always known about how good riders had said they were but had never ridden one.A year later and i absolutely love the Pan,ive already done more miles this year than i did in a year on the vfr,every thing you say about your Pan is exactly what I have experienced with mine,just at the point i think i will head home i think of another way to go just spend more time on it.Only downside is even though it is good condition it doesn't look has good in garage has the black 99 vfr did.
Yeah they’re truly infectious! Thanks for watching I appreciate it.
I swear if Jonny Lee were here I'd get him another beer! Maybe a dark dunkel to mix things up.
Drunk jonny is another level 😂
I'm 63, I still ride my 2000 st1100 and wouldn't change it for a 1300.
I love my bike and if this one has to go I try to get another one, still st1100.
Yeah the 1100 is way better than the 1300 .
@@JonnyLeeguitarist only problem, I'm searching for a solution, I need a rear spring and schockbreaker that can hold a 50 kg more weight than the original and I can't find something what to take
Thank you for sharing !! I do not have a pan but i am becoming more curious about trying out such a type of a motorcycle. I had a similar experience with my current motorcycle which is a 20 yr old aprilia rsv mille (gen1.5) it handles like a 2 stroke in terms of steering, which gave me instant confidence when riding it even after not driving it for along time, i would definetly recomend it if you enjoy Italian styling. Based on what you shared i decided to put the pan on my list for trying / evaluation. - 07:11 i heard you talk about the 1100 and 1300, i remember a talk with a driving instructor who also sweared by the 1100, which according to him was because the rear setup of the 1300 is inferior to that of the 1100.
The 1100 is way better than the 1300 ., in my humble opinion. Thanks for watching.
@@JonnyLeeguitarist Do you want to share which things make it better in your opinion? I would like to know (if you have the time of course)
@@poucxs9246 for me the engine was better , carbs are really smooth when setup right , comfort was better on the 1100 by a long way , more in it than on it . Reliability was better , the 1300 was not comfortable, was way too heavy , and did not have the handling feel of the 1100 . Again just my opinion.
@@JonnyLeeguitarist thank you for sharing !
The death wobble kind of begins, or better said I realise when I need to slow down at 130 miles per hour..... I have a 2006 with 60k and I dearly love her !!!!!!
They run forever
Pans are surprisingly good.
Yeah they’re awesome
I've owned both the 1100 and 1300, I still have the 1100. I found the 13 to be, as someone has said top heavy, uncomfortable on long trips with numb right hand and sore arse even with an air hawk seat. Consequently I don't own it any longer. The 1100 has just had it's second timing belt and at about 210000 mom's ( I'm in Australia) and that is the only work apart from servicing that she has needed. And like you say they handle due to low centre of gravity. It's just fucking great
Yeah I definitely prefer my 1100 , it’s perfect .
Hello Johnny. I have them booth. The 1100 and 1300. They are great bikes. At slower speeds, the 1300 has a bit more balance. But only just.
Yeah they’re awesome. Thanks for watching I appreciate it.
Hello Johnny, I watched it again. It is true, we all need a Honda Pan. Last weekend I did a Valve job to it and set the carb's just right. And it feels fantastic. Drive safe.
Loved the Pan ST1100 had to give up on them due to lack of parts - ABS units etc, st1100 is a great bike just the no parts.
Yeah great bike but that is a pain .
Mate I’m a young lad with a gang of super bike mates who were all laffin when I got the pan! They still laff for 20 mins after that they beggin to swap pan is a different league
that was great chap thank you
Thanks for watching mate
Yea definitely happy with my ST1100, best bike
Yeah the 1100 is awesome
I own a 1998 ST1100 that bought 5 years ago with only 10,000 miles on it. It now shows about 13,000 miles on the odo. I put new tires on it and changes the oil & filter and that’s all it needed. I took the advice of someone here and painted the exhaust pipes with POR15 rust proofing and extended the inner fender to protect the swing arm from getting sand blasted by road debris.
That was good advice
Tested one yesterday. ‘98 model with only 70,000km on the clock. Fabulous ride. One owner from new. Full service history plus bills and docs! Will try it out over the Winter and decide whether it’s a keeper or whether I sell my 2018 ATAS…..
Trust me you’ll fall in love with it 😉
@@JonnyLeeguitarist Tested it for a good half an hour. Such a nice bike to ride. Love my Africa Twin but it's very top-heavy and has a twitchy electronic throttle. That Pan was just a joy to ride. And similar to you, the previous (well current as I haven't picked it up yet!) owner is now 66 and finding it a bit heavy to lug around. I'll let you know in the Spring what I decide. P.S. have watched your clip on the 1300! Cracking find!
@@simonthomas5367 sounds like a great bike you’ve found . Thanks for watching mate I appreciate it.
@@JonnyLeeguitarist I just like your no bullshit style!
@@simonthomas5367 thanks dude . Yeah I don’t like being a normal “ TH-camr “ 😂
Very interesting. Never too late to fall in love with an old bike, even though you already own the top of the line sport gt.
Keep the st1100, buy bitcoin now with the 6000 quids. :-)
Yeah is the 1100 is the best .
I have owned my 1992 ST1100 ABS/TCS since 2005 and most likely never sell it. I'm 72 so riding time doesn't include many long trips, but I love l every minute of riding it. It's been bullet proof with fork rebuilds timing belt and valve cover gaskets and not much else. The guy I bought it from bought the 1300, loved the power but missed the stability of the 1100.
That’s awesome!
Great Review, PILOTO !
Cheers mate
Every once in a while i love a good scouse.
Everyone does 😅
Enjoyed the video 😎
I've never been into bikes, but I'm very much the same way about jet skis.
Last year I sold my modded 2 stroke stand up ski for a nice big, plush kawi 3 seater. And I love it!
It has a kawi 1.5l 4 stroke that was adapted from one of their bikes, don't remember which one, but it is reliable and has great power for a big ski.
Nice and comfortable and makes me want to ride again, versus the torture machine my stand up became once I hit my 40's 😉
I guess we're getting old mate 😂
We’re definitely older my friend 😅