The Truth About BCAAs and EAAs - Are They Worth It?
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This makes SOOO much sense. I’m a vegetarian and I kept seeing how bad or unnecessary BCAAs were and I was confused cus It’s helped me so much with recovery. I workout 6 days a week and I’m never sore when I drink my BCAAs during my workout. I’m not always consistent with my protein intake so now I understand why it’s been so beneficial for me. Thanks!
Facts!
yep same i noticed taking bcaas they been amazing
Yes! It’s crazy!! I started taking BCAA past 2 weeks, and noticed my body don’t feel beat! And that’s me working out 6 days a week as well
I don't take bcaa & I rarely get sore. Soreness is just lactic acid accumulation. The more & longer you exercise the more your body becomes acclimated to it & you thus become less sore overtime.
Why Bcaa and not Eaa?
went from 125 to 140 in 2-3 years without any supplement other then a protein shake 5 "3" with 7-10% body fat. Nothing beats real food.
Absolutely, if youre reading this you dont need to buy this stuff just eat
I needed this. Thank you!
100%, just like Rich Piana said back in the days. Real food is always better
were u in prison or wha
I went from 154.4 at 5.4%bf to 205.4 at 10.8 %bf in only 4.5 months using protein powders and N.O. precursors...it was all documented....eat what you need dependant on your fitness activities....I'm a genetic monster....I'm currently at 167 now at 12 cuz I haven't been at it
When I take Beverly BCAA’s I feel more clean energy and better over all. Busy mom and grandma here. I use it as needed and I’m telling you it was a game changer for my chronic fatigue
You should upgrade to e a a's. Branch chain amino acids are significantly inferior compared to essential amino acids. Is bca supplements are incomplete. Check out The brand body health.
Whey protein and BCAA are different. BCAA takes minimal processes of digestion to get absorbed. So it works best when your body needs a bulk of amino acids to maximize the synthesis of protein. You may argue the difference may not be significant. But the mechanism is there. You are free to choose what you believe.
I agree 👍
Well, if u eat protein every 3 hrs u always have AAs in the bloodstream. Protein synthesis from BCAAs?? Not enough come close to steroids.
Eaa makes more sense because you get a complete amino acids.
@@nattyboii4905100%!!
So , which is better?
I have stomach issues and this helps me get even more protein in my diet. I can't take a protein powder BEFORE working out or I feel nauseous. I can take regular protein at other times of the day, but BCAAs help me get more protein in my diet without sabotaging my workouts.
For someone with adequate protein intake, I totally understand, but they definitely help me.
Bcaa’s have protein in them?
Someone didn’t listen very well
@@rzfbgjy goober
Folic acid fixes most if not all problems with your stomach and all system
@@jdbrice6425do you know what an amino acid is?
I do agree with this but Ive been training 6 days a week consistently for years now and have been on a high protein diet the whole time. I also usually take bcaas to help me recover from my workouts, reduce fatigue while working out, etc. I definitely notice the difference in my size, strength and energy when I dont take bcaas from when I do have them. They help me a lot. My suggestion is, find out what works best for YOU. They work for me. I can usually get 2-3 more reps on each exercise when I throw bcaas into the mix.
Facts💯💯💯💯 i agree!
What brands do you recommend?
@@theerealatm I’d say my top 2 favorites are ryse bcaa/eaa and blackstone labs bcaas
Yes and no. Your body isn't doing anything with the aminos that it couldn't do with the protein.
Our bodies aren't different like that, you're just a consumer conditioned to believe what you're spending your money on is better than just getting protein in that window.
There's nothing you get from eaas that you don't get from cottage cheese.
@@theerealatmaminocore
BCAAs for me really just help with the recovery aspect, I take them to help with the muscle soreness combined with ZMA and that works like a charm.
All on your head if you eat protein. Placebo.
BCAAs and cold showers and make a ommlet after and cold fruit punch BCAA will fix any workout 😂💀
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In my opinion, EAAs intra workout have some benefits to it. Since you are actually breaking down muscles during your training, these can help with better recovery. But that's just my opinion. Results might be negligible, but it's still results.I myself on roids, so I think it would be more beneficial for me.
Are you aware of the fact that digestion takes a while ? You can’t anything that fast...
@@sjevernivjetar1945 it's a lot quicker with liquid than solid foods. Heck you don't even have to chew.
You are incredibly stupid!
@@sjevernivjetar1945 The Master amino pattern amino acids are absorbed in 20-30 minutes. 99% absorption.
@@sjevernivjetar1945 That was the whole argument of bcaas, then they said its not complete, hence the eaas, then thats not enough hence protein from food. Its a circular argument
I think the greatest use of BCAA's is when you're in a calorie deficit and not quite getting enough protein.
I take it daily as well as creatine and a multivitamin to fill in the gaps. I notice a big difference in my recovery, brain fog, hunger, and energy levels.
Calling it a waste is a bit too far but for those who do get enough protein that's fair. If you're in a moderate to large deficit though they're a godsend.
this is the answer i came to the comments for. 🙏
There are studies showing increased protein synthesis after taking EAAs. This makes sense because you don't just need amino acids to build protein; you need specific ratios of amino acids. Protein has a recipe, and if you are left with excess amino acids those just get burned. EAAs can fill in gaps, let you complete a few more of those ratio sets.
For building muscle this may just have a small effect, but for recovery and for recycling older damaged proteins for new ones (a process that increases with protein intake) having EAAs is beneficial... for me, anyway. And that's really what it comes down to: if you can feel a noticeable benefit then it is worth it.
Yes, DeLauer says 4x the protein synthesis with EAAs added.
What’s a great brand?
@@lancer717 TC Nutrients
Yes,you are right,some proteins will wait,into the cels for the aminos,to link to them,then will build those comlete bloks of the protein.Analogy:the sand will ask for the cement to bond togeter then it results the concrete.👍🤚😃 hallo from Romania!
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I think which is why I take EAA’s that for older adults who’s ability to synthesis protein is compromised it may not be possible to take in enough protein to work alongside exercise in the fight against sarcopenia, all things that can help should be seriously considered.
As someone who doesn’t drink caffeine (and if I do it decaffeinate - I’m sensitive) BCAAs make a world of a difference on my energy levels. I don’t feel jittery and I feel well recovered. I even notice I’m able to wake up not feeling sluggish in the morning.
Lol😂 that doesn't even begin to make sense. Take casein protein at night you donut
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@@meagainandagain5756 what are you confused on?
@@meagainandagain5756 you got a problem?
As a plant based athlete BCAA’s are my go to. Without it I get very soar after heavy lifts. On run or hike days I sip on them I don’t burn out so fast. Love them!
I recently started going to the gym and I supplement with BCAA and isolate whey. My BCAA comes with electrolytes and has a nice taste so I have two scoops (two bottles) per day. I also eat around 200gr of protein. In one week of lifting I already noticed a great recovery and muscle gain! Believe it or not, I have a friend doing it with me and he’s not doing what I’m doing and he’s all sore while my recovery is much faster. I advise anyone here to try, have it post workout with a meal with good complex carbs and some good complete animal source protein and you’ll see results
Could you please share the brand od BCAA you use?
Im gonna start with the bcaa tomorrow .....hopefully i see results with the consistency
you've definitely not seen results in one week. That's placebo. BCAA can help some people, but in one week? nah.
You guys are ridiculous. If you just started it, getting enough protein is all that matters. Eaa is just a tasty drink.
You can use it all the time, but if you just eat protein throughout the day, the results would be exactly the same. Maybe the increased bioavailability helps out, but I'd just use hydrolyzed whey then. Which is nearly as fast, and a complete protein.
It's a way to get proteins with less calories and increase the percentage of protein that is synthesized per gram. Some even claim it's above the percentage synthesized from egg protein which is known to be one of the highest. At least those are the arguments which you don't seem to directly address here.
I'm on a high calorie diet (3500). So I am eating lots of peanut butter, almonds and bread which consist of incomplete proteins. Ever since I started taking Amino Stack supplements, my gains started going through the roof.
I took them when i first started and my strength was through the roof. Got off them because people said it was a waste of money
Why does your high calorie diet not have dairy meat eggs?
What the hell's going on here
EAA's can benefit people on a low protien diet, who are in CKD (Chronic Kidney Failure), because EAA's are already broken down so the kidney doesn't have to process the acids like eating animal or plant protein's
I don't feel it helps me speed up my recovery. I have tried several brands of BCAA and never have I felt that. The only reason I take them is because I exercise very early in the morning and I don't have time to eat anything beforehand. So, I take a scoop of BCAA to help get through my workout, which it does wonderfully. I feel as if I ate something and have more than enough energy
Can it be taken on empty stomach
I just take [ON] 100% Whey Protein once in the morning (mixed with 5g-creatine) with breakfast and once at night with dinner (or) 1-hr before I go to bed (without creatine).
My daily intake of food is 2,400-calories with 175-protein. with only (3) meals a day and a snack in-between meal. Like 3 Oreo's (or) 3-Chocolate chip cookies.
Snack is just something sweet so I have some kind of change of taste, it can also sometimes be Jello with (1) Mini-Milky-Way, usually at night when I'm chillin watching a movie.
If I miss my protein shake for any reason, that's when I take [ON] Amino-2222. The pill is like a horse pill, I have to crush it and mix it with Milk.
Wow. As a person who worked as a trainer 30 years ago and has been amazed at the BS in the industry, I’m impressed these guys are using basic sense and not schilling.
Appreciate that!
I went from 154.4 at 5.4%bf to 205.4 at 10.8 %bf in only 4.5 months using protein powders and N.O. precursors...it was all documented....eat what you need dependant on your fitness activities....I'm a genetic monster....I'm currently at 167 now at 12% bf cuz I haven't been at it
Thank you. I am one of those who has them handy because I don't get enough protein on certain days. I can't always afford to buy a lot of meat. Or sometimes I simply don't have the time to cook because I work two jobs. Whatever the case, it happens frequently and I'm thankful to have them. I don't always have protein powder either.
EAA is good for VLCD diets, when you really want to keep the calories low and protein as high as possible.
I'm training fasted and sometimes go on fasting for quite a while after training. That's where EAAs come in handy. I can take it before and after training and don't feel like I've consumed food that needs to be digested.
I just use them specifically for hydration purposes. Essentially to make sure I’m getting my two gallons of water in per day.
And intraworkout with Vitargo carbs for long ass workouts
damn, 2 gallons? ive heard that your body weight in ounces is a good measure which ends up being about a gallon a day for most people
@Miguel Padilla the flavoring makes the water go down faster... I drink a crap ton of water way faster when sweetened with tigers blood EAA.
@Miguel Padilla you quoted/replied to the wrong dude
@Miguel Padilla they do have electrolytes
This video did not age well. It's very outdated and newer.Studies show that essential amino acid supplements are highly affected for everybody, Especially athletic individuals who already consume a high protein diet. E a a's are very important for someone who wants to incorporate calorie restriction as well.
Could you refer to an updated video from any youtuber or the actual study itself?
Dr. Tyna recently had a podcast on this very point. I think she’s on TH-cam too.
But most people say otherwise, both eaa and bcaa have small effect on muscles building
@@Zahaaaaaaalmousawi ive been using eaas for 5 years now and its been a huge benefit to me. Especially when talking about recovery. It is super helpful if trying to eat less/fast because you can spare muscle loss and stay in a fasted state.
@@anupamkhosla2494 Here's one for you:
Effect of Aerobic Exercise Training and Essential Amino Acid Supplementation for 24 Weeks on Physical Function, Body Composition, and Muscle Metabolism in Healthy, Independent Older Adults: A Randomized Clinical Trial
Abstract
Background: Essential amino acids (EAA) and aerobic exercise (AE) acutely and independently stimulate skeletal muscle protein anabolism in older adults.
Objective: In this Phase 1, double-blind, placebo-controlled, randomized clinical trial, we determined if chronic EAA supplementation, AE training, or a combination of the two interventions could improve muscle mass and function by stimulating muscle protein synthesis.
Methods: We phone-screened 971, enrolled 109, and randomized 50 independent, low-active, nonfrail, and nondiabetic older adults (age 72 ± 1 years). We used a 2 × 2 factorial design. The interventions were: daily nutritional supplementation (15 g EAA or placebo) and physical activity (supervised AE training 3 days/week or monitored habitual activity) for 24 weeks. Muscle strength, physical function, body composition, and muscle protein synthesis were measured before and after the 24-week intervention.
Results: Forty-five subjects completed the 24-week intervention. VO2peak and walking speed increased (p < .05) in both AE groups, irrespective of supplementation type, but muscle strength increased only in the EAA + AE group (p < .05). EAA supplementation acutely increased (p < .05) muscle protein synthesis from basal both before and after the intervention, with a larger increase in the EAA + AE group after the intervention. Total and regional lean body mass did not change significantly with any intervention.
Conclusions: In nonfrail, independent, healthy older adults AE training increased walking speed and aerobic fitness, and, when combined with EAA supplementation, it also increased muscle strength and EAA-stimulated muscle protein synthesis. These increases occurred without improvements in muscle mass.
I eat high protein and taking EAAs have been a complete game changer for me. I barely feel sore since taking them and they have completely changed my recovery speed. Believe me or not, I don't really care.
i tried an EAA supplement and it’s about to run out and honestly it doesn’t do much for me not even recovery will not be buying again honestly
Thank you for posting this. Just saved me a bunch of money
Supposedly BCAA supplements benefit is they are faster bioavailable right when your blood flow to the muscles is at pick -- during workout. Turns out EAA sups already contain all the BCAAs, so looking to see if switching to EAA sups before, during workout will be better.
As a gymnast I like EAA's for the digestibility and I get some that has electrolytes added in. Makes it easier for me to hydrate during practice where I'm flipping around a ton or doing lots of intense strength positions. Don't want to be sick from eating too much before haha. Plus I'm one of those people that try to maximize protein intake at my body size but find it hard sometimes because of some sources interrupting my sleep or bloating me because of my poor digestion of it. For most people I can see how it's probably a waste of money. Ben Greenfield has also brought up some studies before about sipping EAA's throughout a workout but I'd be curious to know if those in the study were in a calorie deficit/max protein consumption and other factors.
I'm going to give eea's a try for intra, mpmd finally had them in stock, because i'm kinda here with you on this one. I do rings and other body weight movements with statics and I can't eat for like two hours before I exercise. I usually do full body every other day anywhere between 1-1/2 to 2hrs at a clip.
As long as you know you are getting some type of benefits from EAA supplementation , hydration, digestion ect ect, but just know that if you are already eating 0.6 - 1 gram of protein per lb of bodyweight, those extra aminos are literally worthless for the muscle fibers
@@earlcoles5215 it's not worthless, benefits are just very small and that's assuming you don't have a deficit of protein
@@lolerie no disrespect but it may be the fact that you are just one of those individuals that made your self believe that bullsh*t..... supplementation with eaas is unecessary if a serious bodybuilder is eating the right amount of protein from whole foods and protein shakes... if he or she is doing that then his or her body has more than what he needs with bcaas, eaas, L- glutamine ect ect ... you must be a rookie to the game, if not then you should know better
@@earlcoles5215no I agree with what this person is saying. Basically the convenience of an EAA and electrolyte mix for an athlete that may be working out for longer than 90 minutes makes a ton of sense.
Especially if it's a female, since in general they don't ingest as much protein as they need to for muscle gain and adequate recovery.
I know quite a few mixed martial artists that feel way better after using that kind of mix. We make it with various raw powders for cheaper and just put some zero sugar lemonade or orange mix fruit mix of some kind in it.
Keep in mind if the aminos aren't used in the muscles they end up just getting used as fuel for your gut if you're active.
You should watch Peter Attia episode 217 with Mike Joyner. Leucine should be had in good amounts in the morning to stop the night's catabolism, and in the evening to keep body less catabolic during the night's fast. Yes you can eat protein to get enough leucine, which is the signal amino acid that starts the anabolic process. However, I prefer to kick-start anabolism by taking BCAA before a meal, and I really do note an effect. I recommed taking BCAAs at least in the morning, and post-workout. If you want to be hard-core, take with all meals.
Also, why not just leucine? Well, my logic is that when that protein synthesis process kicks in, you have the need for all the aminos, and for a muscle building intention, having the full BCAA stack in the basic ratio 2:1:1 is obvious.
I’m vegan so they work for me but it’s also like he said because the flavor just works better with water than most protein works. I’ve been considering trying something different though because it definitely is expensive in comparison
Condolences…
Vegan personal trainer here, i reccomend just overshooting your protein and getting diverse protein sources
EAA supplements aren’t just for protein though, this guy is missing that sometimes they have pink Himalayan salt in them for electrolytes throughout your workout because that’s when most people take their eaa’s and protein powders mess with your stomach a lot more mid workout. EAA supplements can also have potassium to keep your muscles from cramping during the workout and magnesium and other ingredients so it’s not just to get in the protein you need, it’s to help you sustain your energy longer during your workout and recover faster.
Pink Himalayan salt is a waste of money just use salt. Trace amounts of the extra blah blah blah is a selling feature
A local supplement supplier did buyOne-GetOne on BCAA drink, I bought it for 3 reasons:
- it’s got caffeine and Gaurana in it, for fat boosting and increase of fat loss.
- for muscle recovery, as it has electrolytes and salts
- for when I’m not eating meat heavy meal, like pasta, to add the aminos
So then why is creatine effective when you’re getting adequate protein? It’s just three amino acids, so how is it different than BCAAs?
EAAs are amazing for recovery. I swear by them.
😊 Same here. I've been using them for 5 years and they've worked wonders.
BCAA surely help me recover from post workout fatigue much better. As I take animal protein I don’t take any whey rather some Bcaa capsules to fight fatigue and recover until next workout. I also add some glutamine to improve it.
I love supplementing with BCAA's or EAA's for the fact that I end up drinking significantly more water as I tend to not drink adequate amounts without them. I have found that I get the duel benefit of ensuring I am ingesting enough "protein" or aminos and the benefit of hydration. Similar to multi vit, it's like an insurance policy. I assume from my diet i'm getting enough nutrients, but if i'm not, I can trust the multi's are there. Although I could eat more eggs or slam another protein shake, sometimes the variety is better for sustainability. Those are my reasons for BCAA products. Obviously, if cost is an issue then bang for your buck would be to eat more cheap eggs
Honestly y’all, figure out what works for you by paying attention to how you feel in the gym. For my body, I take pill BCAA’s in the morning with powder form G-Fuel 😂 the BCAA’s give me a type of fuel for my body to use while lifting, sorta like eating a quick meal so my stomach isn’t on empty nor my muscles and the g fuel gives me focus with no crash.
No one’s recommended this to me it just works, especially for sustainment in the gym and recovery after
The dosages you get with powders is quite high though, Like what, 3-5 Grams a scoop ?
I can feel a difference off the big bottle of capsules from Nutricost :)
I only take half a dose per meal though cuz it makes me feel thirstier if I take the full two caps for some reason...
yeah but its not about what you eat its about what you break down and are able to assimilate right?
The way I understand it is technically BCAAS are only useless if you don't get enough protein, and only beneficial for performance and recovery if protein is sufficient. The three amino acids found in BCAAS are the three mainly responsible for stimulating protein synthesis. If your protein intake is down and you are taking bcaas well then you don't have enough of the other essential amino acids so you are telling your body to rapidly draw from old protein sources(breaking down old muscles) which can actually be harmful to muscle gain. The goal is to take bcaas right before a workout, and with adequate protein your protein synthesis will speed up and you will recover faster. If your goal is supporting muscle building directly, then you would need take all nine essential amino acids. Bcaas are only for performance, you need all EAA to build muscle. May as well stick to whey protein unless you are calorie restricted, then you can use EAAs.
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Currently drinking my first EAA shaker rn… as a vegan, post workout.
Probably suffering from IBS.
Will update
How did it go?
Thank you for this Info some days I don’t do well on my protein intake but I’m gonna stop taking bcaas I just came across your channel today and I’m glad I did
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Carbs and fats are protein sparing. Calories, proper training. You do not need 1 freaking supplement. It's a waste of money.
@@jasonneil101 thanks for your input 😁
If you're trying to just preserve muscle I found that casein protein helped a lot. It takes way longer to digest so you can do like casein protein and the day old oats I forget what they called those but that's what I used to do.
@@jasonneil101if you wanna get as strong and/or as muscular as possible protein powder is quite useful ..creatine helps too..there is no such thing as protein sparing ..there are only calories...
@@jasonneil101you should probably get on some supps… string bean
Personally I notice a big difference in my workouts if I don’t sip bcaa’s during my workouts. Especially towards the end of my workouts. I definitely fatigue less towards the end of my workouts if I sip them
Protein consumption doesn't conflate to protein absorption. When it comes to bioavailability, not all proteins are equal. This is where BCAAs/EAAs truly shine.
Damn, wish I watched this awhile ago, been buy BCAAs for years
He shouldn't just say High Protein diet because some people like myself who are vegetarians can eat more protein but the Amino Acid breakdown might not be as high so it still helps to add EAAs when getting enough of the Protein number to get a higher Amino count.
I sometimes just take them for the flavor. I enjoy regular water, but I like to have some taste every now and then.
A point was made that If you supplement with protein powder you don’t need bcaas. However, i wonder if the kind of protein you’re having makes a difference in the intake of those Bcaas. For instance, if you take pea protein?! Then again Can look at the formula on the bottle too
I use pea protein
Pea protein is very similar to whey in amino profile.
Say less 🙏 (Been trying to understand this for ages now)
I read EAAs will have you absorb 99 percent of the protein whereas protein from food or powders are half to a 3rd of that. You also get the protein without the calories or spiking insulin. What about that?
That was a wonderfully concise explanation.
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Sooooo no to BCAA if youre consuming normal doses of protein
FYI - avocados has 100% of the amino acids, and technically is 100% pure protein, more than a steak, which is i think 98% pure.
I went on an avocado a day diet long ago to bring my cholesterol down and it did by 20 points , I was back under 200
I got tired of drinking protein powder that’s why started with bcaa. Its easier to drink for me.
I like BCAA. Gives me something nice to drink during workout. I treat it as a reward for my body after a couple hard sets.
How? They taste like horsesht
I like this.
@@gonets7868 maybe get a better flavor?
They taste good and the one I buy is $15 for 30 servings. I feel like bcaa’s help me retain muscle. Maybe it’s just a placebo, but to me it’s not that expensive and it beats drinking plain water while workin out.
So if you eat at least 1g of protein per kg of body weight you don t need theese.
I take them during my workout with creatine. Tastes good and gets my creatine in. But am I just wasting money? I don’t like drinking just water during my workout
My first few yrs got to training I used to wasting a lot of money on BCAA/“pre workouts”, now 5 yrs later I realized I was so stupid😂, just like Rich Piana said real food is always better
RIP the GOAT
So what if a meal or a scoop of protein powder doesn't provide enough leucine to hit that leucine threshold, and decide to add in some BCAA's for that purpose?
What about the elderly who do eat protein? Is it beneficial?
That’s only 1.5g of aminos. You would typically take at least 5-15g.
So much truth here. Thanks for discussing this.
I mean $19 a month and I put the recommended serving into a gallon jug and it helps me stay hydrated that way
I agree with everything said in the video. Only thing i question. Isn’t better to get our protein from multiple sources? As long as you can offered it.
Thank you guys most informative peace
Ok so someone like me ,i am 300 pounds and about 35% body fat, i'm not drinking my body weight in protein everyday as much as i'd like to day dream i am, so its good for someone like me who's being realistic about their diet.
Some of these EAA'S companies report of 99% absorption in 20 minutes compared to whey, which takes a lot longer, is less than 20%, so you piss out most of the whey protein. Not to mention almost no calories from EAA's. You could also drink it as an intraworkout. So, MindPump made decent points here but they didn't cover everything.
Small correction but you wouldnt piss out the protein, you'd shit it out
Did you say just a company that sells a product, is saying it works better then not taking their product?
@@hardlygenuis no you would piss it out indeed. Nitrogenous waste (from the breakdown of amino acids in the blood) is excreted as urea in urine
At least on myself notice after workout a punch of help in recovery. It's been the best recovery product ever in my life.
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Thomas Delauder and Gabriel Lyons speak of new studies showing BCAAs increase protein synthesis 4X.after he’s been saying big waste of money for years.
Especially with a lower protein meal, less than 30 gr protein.
Its EAA not BCAA
I have 2 high protein meals a day (whey shake & porridge for breakfast) and a normal meat & 5 veg for dinner. I also run 5-10km (3-7mi) every day. Ive just started taking a BCAA&EAA as part of my after run recovery stack. Seems to work for me, my muscles dont feel as fatigued straight after the run. Yes I could have another whey shake, but then my stomach feels bloated for an hour or so while it digests.
So... Swings n roundabouts I guess.
Only 2 meals a day leaves WAY too big of a gap between protein meals. Your amino levels drop to zero about 5-6 hours after a meal.
@@Jimmy_Cavallo lunch is usually a smaller meal as I'm a school teacher, so it's usually whatever I can eat quickly. Couple of ham sandwiches etc.
A better question would be why do essential amino acids taste like a kangaroo’s but hole?
because you didn’t find one that tastes good lol, not all of them are yucky i promise :)
Are his notes on the ceiling?
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Two missing important facts about EAAs: a) they have much higher absorption rate than any other form of protein (with a high-quality EAA like MAP reporting up to 99% utilization compared to 20-30% for whey), and b) you can take a basically 0-calorie EAA supplement, thus allowing you to intake protein while remaining in a fasted state. The price per serving of EAAs is higher, as pointed in the video, but your body is able to utilize the amino acids far better than whey (at least with MAP EAAs).
Yeah, they completely ignore the main usage of AA's: taking them around workout for the faster absorption and better recovery. I guess they are following the more modern knowledge that workout timed protein supplementation is irrelevant.
They have the same calories as protein. It's basically a loop-hole that they can't count it as a calorie because FDA states you can't count individual amino acids as proteins for whatever reason, but this regulation doesn't bypass the rules of thermodynamics. All amino acids have calories
Looks like somebody fell for the marketing hype
How can you build muscle with zero calories? Hint: you can't. Eat protein.
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Different protein sources have different amino acid profiles. That being said I can't imagine they "do nothing" just because you eat a lot of a single type of protein. Perhaps if you eat a lot of a variety of proteins, then maybe they "do nothing."
So he said that if the protein intake is adequate which is 0.6-1 g per pound of body weight.l, for a 90kg person like me, that woukd be around 100-160 g of protein then bcaa is not required. But then he says that even in one scoop of 15g of whey protein you get enough BCAA in it. How does the both situation compares?
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if you think taking BCAAs are good (which I do and I push people to take BCAAs and Protein powder, but you wouldnt believe how many people push this off immediately and just take more Ls)
EAAs are top tier and when balanced right with leucine > 700mg and with a decent ratio between it and the other 8 AAs you get crazy more benefits!
EAAs are the #1 best way to get protein synthesis at its absolute max when taken right before workout/lifting and shows great benefits when taken during the workout as well, it is so substantial it is the single most effective and important time to make the most of your lifting. You have far far greater synthesis results when doing this (as in before and get even more when including during) compared to after your workout.
Casein or food with high amount of it like cottage cheese before bed seems to be the second best thing/time to get the most bang for your buck
so funny enough, EAAS are the same things as simply going for whey protein because protein is amino acids
you also only want to take 25mg to 40mg of a form of protein at a time, of course for synthesis purposes only, eating more like during meals with protein is absolutely okay, your body will only process that amount though so taking more than that in EAAS or whey will just be expensive pee
just like that, this guys saved me $$$ of dollars. was about to order a BCAA. i already have protein powder in the house...
Is seems this argument ignores the complete protein need and how not all proteins have enough of all 9 to be absorbed. Supplements help can help add some of the 9 that compete other chains. It makes what you are eating more bio available.
it is obvious things he talking the question is does bcaa help recover faster etc
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Not necessarily true. Whey protein has 30g per serving but only 20% actually gets utilized for protein synthesis and the extra nitrogen attached to amino acids gets lost in urine. Breast milk has the highest utilization rate of protein almost 50%, meat somewhere in middle of both.The body has to break down protein into individual amino acids and then rebuild those into different types of proteins throughout the body. You will only absorb as much protein as the lowest essential amino acid with whatever your consuming and the rest wil get burned off as caloric energy with nitrogen detaching and going to urine since body doesn’t have a protein storage bank like fats and carbs. BCAA or a waste of time. EEA are great if you find one of the few that actually have a balanced amount of EEA. It’s not the grams you digest it’s how much your body utilizes and doesn’t turn into a carb.
Wow dude. Great info! What brand do you recommend
Im a newbie to all this...so if i take 100% whey protein,i know it has BCAA in it,but i read it takes longer to process because they are mixed together..are you saying if i take a seperate BCAA before taking Whey powder its still a waste? I read taking BCAA before hand will help absorb the whey powder easier once i take the whey. Any help would be appreciated on this. Thank you.
I personally take advanced bionutrutials perfect amino 4 times a day. I use to take hemp protein powder but didn’t feel same recovery and muscle gain. I weigh 230 and squat and bench more now on a vegan diet than when I ate meat due to this supplement mixed with pine pollen for testosterone and vitamin d synthesis and stinging nettle nettle to block aromatase (fat storing). If you take a quality essential amino acidsupplement, which their are maybe only like 5, it will enchance the affect of anything you take it with by adding in more amino acids to it and helping in the building of each protein. Your body makes most amino acids it needs expect essential ones and it needs at least on of each to make a protein. You can have two foods with no protein and if they have amino acids that when eaten together they will build protein. The benefit of taking amino acids alone is that your body doesn’t have to do any breaking down of protein it saves energy and just easily absorbs to blood stream with no waste if supplement is balanced properly. When you take other sources which you should because they have other vitamin and mineral benefits it can be to much of one amino acid and not enough of another so it leads to no matching up to make protein and is discarded as waste. In a nutshell, your body breaks down protein to get amino acids to build new proteins it specifically needs. By taking essential amino acids not bcaa because that’s not all of them, you will skip that step and just build protein with know waste which is easier on your body.
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We don't need supplements in BCAAS We take enough in our food already. Supplement unless and waste of money
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Definitely needed this video, thank you 🙏🏾
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Isn’t combing EAAs and protein more anabolic than just consuming proteins alone? I wanna learn fellow gym-goers so fill me in
No. Just eat quality protein and you don't need EAAs.
I'm interested to know if there's any benefit of taking EAAs or BCAAs for a fasted workout? I train first thing in the morning and if i have a protein shake there's not enough time for it to digest and i start to feel uncomfortable towards the end of the workout. In this case would BCAAs or EAAs be a good alternative, or just a waste of time? I get plenty of protein throughout the rest of the day.
Yes there absolutely is for essential amino acids. Don't waste your time and money on branch chain Amino acids. One of the benefits of essential amino acids is that it prevents muscle loss while being in a cooler restriction a k a fasting. I take 122 scoops of e a's every morning before I go to the gym for my fasted workout. I use the brand body health. 2 Calories per scoop. Doesn't break the fastDoesn't break a fast.
Thanks! I'll just have my protein shake 💪
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