Atelier Ryza 3 Review (PS5, also on Switch, PS4, PC) | Backlog Battle
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ก.ค. 2024
- Is Ryza's final adventure worth the wait? Get an idea of how this story ends - spoiler-free - in my review of Atelier Ryza 3: Alchemist of the End & the Secret Key!
Thanks to Koei Tecmo for providing this game code!
0:00 - Introduction
1:40 - Gameplay Overview
6:33 - Some rough edges
9:28 - Should you play this game first, Story (spoiler-free), Soundtrack
13:25 - Closing
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Damn, this hits me too hard. Started this series back when I was in my late teens and now I'm in college and it's ending. My entry into adulthood has just been riddled with goodbyes to a lot of things in my life from major to minor. It really hurts every time. Inspite of that I wanna see this journey through to the end once I'm able to pick up the game. Gotta burn through some backlog.
Thank you for sharing this. I believe that the entire Secret trilogy is special because we've all grown with Ryza and her friends. It helps that she's the first one to ever have her own trilogy too, allowing us to really get to see the cast mature over time. Whenever you get to it, I hope that you enjoy Ryza 3's finale!
Me who has yet to finish ryza 1 🥹🙃
Same! I actually heard about this one coming out a while ago and heard great stuff so I bought the first 2 in hopes that I’d beat them in time to get this one on release. But between Pokémon S/V, Octopath 2, Harvestella, and my crippling addiction to Stardew Valley, I just haven’t had the time to get through them yet. I’m SO excited to be honest though. It’s nice to know that I already enjoy the gameplay and characters and that I still have 2 and a half more games to playthrough!
Me who has yet to buy ryza 1. I really should have bought it when it was on sale :/
I think I’m at the end of 1
@@KingK1421 the digital is still $60 on the Nintendo shop but I got the physical copy on Amazon for $30-35. There’s DLC season pass for an extra $60!! I bought it for the first 2 games and sincerely regret it. The story is short and not voiceacted. I just wanted the extra outfits and found out later that I could’ve bought them individually for like $2. I did like the separate character stories like Klaudia’s but the summer beach island DLC story was NOT worth the price of an entire other game. So if you do plan on getting the first one, I suggest looking into the DLC to see if it’s something you’d like and if not, you can always buy the extra clothes/weapons skins, and individual character extra stories all separately so you don’t have to spend more than $4 tops at a time. I’m only saying this in case it helps you or anyone else because I wish I had looked into it more before I bought it. Excellent game if you like jrpgs and crafting, terrible DLC lol. Best of luck ! I hope you’re able to find it on Amazon or elsewhere for cheap. It’s still $35 in my area but I don’t know where you live or anything. I hope you get to play this amazing series. And if you do- it’s great to know that you have all 3 games to loll forward to playing!
Keep at it! You can do it!
The blur effect looks like when I don't wear my glasses.
Oh well that's convenient, I was just looking for a review for this game like an hour ago and here you go and post one. Perfect. Thanks a lot!
You’re welcome! Hope you liked the video!
I still have catching up to do, but I am very excited to get to this game.
Gust has just been hitting so well with their recent work, and while I think a few people where a bit snarky toward Ryza getting a full trilogy to herself, I think the payoff was meaningful and deliberate.
This also feels like a big moment for your channel, as Ryza 1 gained you a lot of audience and traction, if I recall correctly :D
It did! Also, if you rewatch the first two reviews, you might’ve seen bits of them in the intro to this one!
For me personally, Mana Khemia 2 has the best alchemy crafting system with unforgiving Material requirements and specific quality numbers to unleash the last 'ultimate' weapon potential. Heck, the game theme is a school of alchemy lol. Can't wait to play this and the remake of the mother of all Atelier one
fuck yeah, dude! Mana Khemia is so good! i'm so sad that there are no announced plans to remaster the games. Long live emulators, tho'
I keep on hearing great things about Mana Khemia, I really wish there would be a remaster or a port 🥲
@@Anni_ka you can find the psp version of the first game, and PPSSPP runs on mostly anything and needs no advanced configurations
I was already planning to buy this game, but now I’m even more excited. I loved Ryza 1 and 2, and I’m sure this will be no different.
It’ll be a tear jerking finale, that’s for sure!
Awesome review, i love your writing with these types of review
That’s such a nice thing to say! Thank you so much for your kind words!
Great review.
This is one of the few games. Where I feel like, by the end of this game I'm gonna be a freaking mess lol. I've gotten very attached to these characters. And soon as 3 was announced I knew this was a buy regardless if it was good or not.
It’s one heck of a finale!
So looking forward to this! Still prefer Klaudia with her instrument weapon over bow
I’ve come around liking the bow! I do miss the flute sometimes!
This is exactly the review I needed to see for this game. Touching, dare I say, beautiful.
Thank you so much! I’ve placed Easter eggs in the beginning for folks who’ve watched my previous two Ryza reviews. I don’t think anyone noticed, but I felt it helped highlight how far the series has grown!
Can't wait to finish the trilogy. Btw Ryza 1 was the game which led me to your channel as I was looking for an alchemy walktrough. Follower since then!
That's amazing! I feel like we've gone on to have a full circle moment right now! I hope you enjoy the finale!
The same for me
Great review. Very excited to play Ryza 3. Loved the Atelier series since Ayesha and this sounds like the most ambitious title yet.
It really is! Such a huge world to explore!
Still playing the first game and already have Ryza 2 on the backlog. I am going to take my time and enjoy this trilogy.
Awesome review! 😊
Good to know that the battles go by quickly, the battle camera gives me small tinges of nausea.
Is there perhaps an option in the settings that keep it more stable?
If not, hopefully there will be an update.
There doesn’t seem to be one at this time 🙁
I've enjoyed all Atelier games I've played but when I played the Ryza games I just instantly fell in love. It's such a cozy game that delivers a great experience that other RPG's just don't deliver. They always seem just long enough to respect my time and don't overstay their welcome. Can't wait for this one :D
It's definitely very chill and cozy as you said!
So looking forward to play this, Ryza 1 and 2 were amazing, the combat system and the alchemy system both need to be in the next Atelier game.
It will be sad to see this series end but that's what I like about the Atelier series, unique stories with diverse characters and a new world to discover with each new trilogy
The finale is worth the wait, for sure! I hope you enjoy it!
Great review! I'm playing Ryza 2 at the moment, I'll play 3 eventually.
Hope you’re having fun with it!
I was honestly thinking to play this one without having played the other two, mainly for the improvements and world exploration. I’d totally miss out on the character development, which is one of my favorite aspects of RPGs. For months I’ve been telling myself I’d start the series but so many games have came out I was looking forward too more, the ever growing backlog 😂
There’s a particular story point near the beginning that addresses a story from the first game that leads to one of the characters to act downtrodden and douchey in the second that gets lost if you don’t play the first game. Just one example of how crazy the progression is for some of the characters!
i started Ryza 1 a week ago and having a blast!
ill play 2 right after, then ill jump into this.. i already bought the ultimate edition as well (only ryza 3 tho)..
cant wait to play this game!
That’s awesome! Take your time and make sure you check the guides I made if you need more help with crafting and combat!
@@BacklogBattle thamks! ill take a look for that!
The tactic level system is my favourite rpg system, it's a super clever way to balance the game. It makes the boss encounters more intense by building up your skills possibilities while not making fight with regular monster boring by not allowing the use of the most powerful skills on such short fights. (You don't have time to build up your tactical level on low level enemies)
It does add an element of suspense to things, like trying to get that tactical level up to be ready for more powerful attacks!
@@BacklogBattle my only problem with tactics level is trying to build it up to utilize fatal drives lmfaoooo. normally it should be no problem, but me who loves to keep synthesizing and building up my weapons and arsenal, I was only able to fatal drive like a grand total of 3 times in each games main story.
@@CheddarDarth having the same problem 🤣🤣🤣
Your words touched me 😥Thanks for the review💕 I need to get back to Gust and play more Atelier adventures! My next one is Firis, can you share any tips for it, if you have some, please?
Thank you so much! It truly was an emotional journey for me! ❤️
Only good tip I can give you for Firis I’d be mindful of the deadlines! There are two, so make sure you meet them on time!
@@BacklogBattle tq Alex-san🤗
Nossa! Realmente gostei. Espero poder jogá-lo em breve no meu Switch. A parte do combate me animou. Achei como se fosse a cereja de um bolo.
I will get the physical version as soon as possible !
Great review, just found your channel.......New Sub, well done, many thanks for your effort
Thanks for the sub! And you're welcome!
i'm glad they let us relive the first game's areas again, stripped down as they were. maple forest is still my favorite aesthetic and favorite music in the series.
I might just start and finish this whole trilogy this year!
Thanks for the review.
Between Resident Evil 4 Remake's release and Ryza 3.
I was already thinking Ryza 3. This review just sold it for me more. :)
I hope they patch a graphical stuff to make it more optimize for those who have better hardware.
Also the text as well
The crazy thing is I looked at Ryza 2 and they didn’t have the cutscene legibility issue. They had black bars where they displayed the text
@@BacklogBattle
Hopefully they can patch it soon.
Im more concern a about the sales of this given it will compete with Resident Evil 4 Remake.
@@LucaLukaszPascua I wouldn't worry too much about the sales! If people want it, people will get it. That's why we get backlogs, after all ;)
@@LucaLukaszPascua I don't think you'll have to worry as the demographics for both games are vastly different. One's a laid back JRPG you can play at your leisure and the other is a remake of the biggest action horror game of all time.
YOU CAN RIDE A DOLPHIN?!?!?!! Ah I’m so excited! This looks awesome! I heard about this game recently and thought it looked great so I bought the first 2 in hopes I’d finished before this one released. I haven’t finished the first one but I absolutely lovelovelove this game! It’s low stress but it’s not AFK… there’s thought and strategy, beautiful characters with great stories and the combat is so much fun! I love turned based, but there’s a lot you can do with the turn based combat here. I really enjoy the different aspects they’ve brought to turn based combat. I enjoy the challenge of figuring out the alchemy. I just really love these games, this is one of my favorite series. It’s almost a cozy game but it’s absolutely not boring if you enjoy turned based combat. I love it and your reviews are always so great and in-depth without spoilers and I appreciate the hard work you put in and sharing it with us.
Edited to add that in all of your Ryza reviews and guides you don’t incessantly point out the fact that the characters are “hot waifu babes, thicc thighs” etc. I genuinely appreciate that you don’t even point it out. Every single other review has it in the thumbnail and all over the script and footage. Like, we get it, they’d cute anime babes with impossible proportions thank you. I don’t want a review to get information that I can glean from my own eyesight. So thank you for always respecting women, from these reviews, to the way you talk about your wife and get her to choose the characters featured in your badass video game women videos. It might seem like that doesn’t have much to do with gaming, but as a woman, I for one sincerely appreciate your attention to the actual content and not the visuals. Thank you!
Wow, thank you for this wonderful comment! I really appreciate it! I hope you enjoy the rest of the series though - the finale will be one worth experiencing!
Sad that Ryza's story is ending but still can't wait to play it.
I literally started the Ryza games in the past month thanks to the last steam sale and now that I'm halfway thru Ryza 2 I am super excited for 3 even though I may not be able to get it for a while and with there being *another* big release today it feels like the universe is taunting me lol
It’s not just you! This season has been absolutely busy as heck!
Same! I played Ryza 1 in February and Ryza 2 this month and it's been a lovely journey with this cast of characters. I'm now enjoying Octopath 2 before jumping into Ryza 3!
The passage of time is so weird. It feels like such a short time ago that I was thanking you for your Ryza 1 alchemy guides. And now here we are, with the first ever Atelier trilogy.
The first was Iris Trilogy.
But I get the sentiment all the same. It has come full circle. Ryza is a special trilogy.
@@IDONTreadreplies Oh! I thought Ryza was the first character to get her own trilogy? Guess I was misinformed!
@Xleaselife Nope. First, it was Iris, but the first two games she isn't a protag. She is a major character figure, but the third game is where she shines the most since that is where she becomes playable. Overall, character Trilogy is Iris. But if we talk about a general trilogy, the first three games are the first because they are centered around the same place which is called Salburg. Different protags, but same area.
It's a bit confusing. Doesn't take away how special and revolutionary Ryza is to the series.
It’s been quite some time, hasn’t it? I wanted to acknowledge that passage of time with the introduction! I’ve mentioned it in another comment, but the intro has elements of the previous two Ryza reviews in it!
@@BacklogBattle It's definitely kind of a time capsule. I can see myself getting really emotional with this one, like you said.
Interestingly, a lot of reviewers keep saying that you absolutely do not have to play the first two games. You're the only one who made a point to emphasize the importance of the trilogy as a whole. As always, thank you for your insightful, thoughtful reviews!
Very solid review of the final game in the Ryza trilogy, definitely will be sad by the fact that this will be the last time we see Ryza aside from her anime adaptation coming soon and while there are some issues in this final game and my personal issue being how LONG it takes to get better weapons, armour and all of that for the final dungeon is a pain in these games, still will miss Ryza dearly. Again great job Alex!
I forgot about the anime already! That's crazy that they announced that!
@@BacklogBattle Yeah when I found out about it from a random trailer I'm like wait this is getting an anime too like 1st NIER automata is getting an anime which it already has at this point of me writing this then Genshin Impact got the ok and now Ryza? To this day I'm still mad that none of the Yakuza games had an anime adaptation but for some reason SHENMUE got one. So to find out that Ryza is getting one was a huge wait what lol.
@@MrDarksol A Yakuza anime would be cool as shit to see. And speaking of the Shenmue anime was it even any good? I remember it being announced and then the next thing I heard was that it's cancelled.
As for Ryza's anime I wonder if they'll eventually animate her 2nd and 3rd games as well in later seasons. Still kind of wierd that the only other Atelier that got an anime was Escha & Logy given how old the series is and how well they would all work as a laid back slice of life anime.
@@slashinghades7347 I may have to go back to watch the Shenmue anime as honestly, it bored me within 3 episodes. My only guess the reason why we never get any of the other games in the series in terms of anime is because they're not overly popular, meaning there would be no reason to have a slice of life type of anime involving alchemists, when by that point, those types of anime already exist. We already know the reason why Ryza got an anime is because her games are popular really popular and for obvious reasons, however whether we will get a season 2 or 3 depends on if the demand for them is really high.
Great review, Alex. Im still at Ryza 1 and very excited to play Ryza 2. However, Ive noticed from gameplay videos that Ryza 2 seems to look more detailed and graphically impressive than Ryza 3. Can you confirm this based on what you've played? I know Ryza 3 has larger maps and more open areas but considering Ryza 3 is the finale, its kinda jaring if the previous game looks way better.
Great question! I think the texturing work in Ryza 3 is a lot better, but I think the colors can be a bit less saturated in some respects, whereas in Ryza 2, the palette is a lot brighter and more vibrant. I chalk it up to compromises with lighting and shader development in 3!
@@BacklogBattleThanks Alex. Do you think there's a chance they'll patch these graphical issues in the future? I don't know if Gust has a good track record when it comes to fixing tech issues.
@@magnainsomnia unfortunately they’re quick to move on, though they’ve been known to issue patches after release! We shall see!
@Magna Insomnia Good news! th-cam.com/video/816mN-5TqD8/w-d-xo.html
Playing it right now and Switch : they have to do something for the dialogue font size !
I have to use the Switch's accessibility features to zoom in for the skit on the map when on portable mode. I just finished Sophie 2 and did a lot of ateliers, non of them gave me that hard time (except Ryza 2)
I wish they'll do a patch for the switch, but I have little hope ..
It seems like they're currently working on performance. I do hope there's word on text sizes.
i preorderd it and just came a week ago im sure to play it i loved and platinumed both and sure i will do a 3rd time :D
It’s going to be a tearful last adventure!
I have to pay around 300€ to get Ryza 1 and 2 physical :O Its so expensive. But I want them 🥵
Atelier is one of those series you gotta buy physically on day one, or else you’re going to be playing a ton for them!
@@BacklogBattle my plan is to at least buy and play all three Ryza. I just bought the switch a few days ago and already payed like 800€ in total for games, memory expansion, pro controller and a lot of games.
I really need to finish ryza 2 but I made the mistake of playing the entire kiseki series in JP (started CS1 a week ago) for study and a personal challenge and now I can’t stop lol. But once I get to kuro no kiseki 1 or 2 I’m nosediving back into atelier for sure
Ah oh no! That’s going to be a while! Hope you’re having fun though!
@@BacklogBattle loads of fun and tons of hype from beating azure a few weeks ago. Warming up to class 7
I don’t really mind the blurriness of the background environment but the textbox-less dialogue is bothersome 😪 i’ll be playing on my Steam Deck though so hopefully the texts won’t be TOO small on a portable screen or too illegible
The ones during cutscenes are very infrequent, but you’ll encounter the party banter a lot more frequently. That’s fine though, given that it’s mostly flavor text.
I really wanna start the Ryza trilogy sometime. I’ve just had such a hard time sticking with Atelier Sophie that I wonder if I’ll have the same trouble with Ryza.
I found that the older Atelier games are hit or miss when it comes to how attention grabbing they are. With Ryza, the systems and chill story really drew me in fast! And for the record, I think Sophie 2 is a better way to get into Atelier games!
@@BacklogBattle Interesting, I really appreciate that!
I wonder with Ryza's story over if they'll do a 4th Dusk game like they did with the Arland and Mysterious trilogies.
Sophie 2’s success proved to Gust that this can be hugely profitable for them, so it’s highly likely now!
@@BacklogBattle True and Sophie is still my favorite Atelier protagonist. So I'm glad she got another game.
I'm not interested in the game (I was not a fan of active turn based combat in the first), but I'm glad to see (apart from the technical aspects) it's a great finale to the Ryza series. I do want to note that the blurry filter actually feels more immersive, considering I'm near-sighted 😂 All jokes aside, small fonts are a big nope, I hope it's possible to fix this.
At one point I had a line that talked about seeing an optometrist but removed it to tighten the script lol
@@BacklogBattle It would've definitely been fitting!;D
So I've never played any game from this series and most my jrpg experience is from Final Fantasy, but this game looks interesting to me, would you recommend it for me based on that?
It’s less story and more slice of life and more chill and tons of crafting! I do recommend playing the first game though!
I guess its a good thing I have this entire series on Switch already. It is strange they didn't improve graphics on PS5 version. I am worried about reading the text on screen on my switch lite. It would be ok if they had a dub but they don't. Hopefully they patch it by the time I get to the game.
No dub. I don’t think that’s changing anytime soon unfortunately
@@BacklogBattle I agree it is unfortunate. I'll probably taking a break from the Atelier series for a while after the Ryza trilogy.
Gorgeous game!
Can you turn off the blurry background on pc? My eyes hurt just seeing it in the video
Unfortunately KT didn't send me a PC build, so I can't speak for that platform.
@Zlare Z Here's an update to your question! th-cam.com/video/816mN-5TqD8/w-d-xo.html
@@BacklogBattle Thanks! I got it on pc and you can turn it off completely there, that suits me fine
Me who bought ryza 3 and i havent got the ryza 2 yet. Guess ill wait and finish 2 first
The journey will be worth the wait! And things happen in 2 that are a result of your experience with 1!
@@BacklogBattle thanks for replying. :) appreciate it. Ill hold onto the 3 until i get the 2 (which i hope would be on sale soon). But for now ill play re4 remake:)
I know ima be ugly sobbing once I finish the game 😭❤
I'm patiently (not really) waiting for my copy to come in, lol.
I don't think that I will play any Atelier game after Ryaz trilogy and it is really sad knowing its the last one :(
I love the characters and their adventures
I have high hopes for the next Atelier series! I think it’s going to be incredible!
Godddd I want to play this series so bad but I have multiple problems.
1. A huge backlog
1.5. inability to finish games so doing a whole trilogy doesn't seem possible
2. Ryza 3 looks like the best game in the trilogy for me and my Playstyle and what I want from this series... But sounds like I'd miss out on a looot if I just jump into that one.
3. Ryza 2 seems like an ok starting spot, but then... See point 1.5 😭
So when Wario posted this earlier this week with the $10 best buy gift card I figured I'd go ahead and order with the $20 of giftcards I already had since these always seem be limited disc wise lol... but I did not realize it was coming out this week. I am in octopath epilogue and the plan was the play Engage next but now I kinda wanna finish up Ryza. Always have a good time playing Ryza.
Yea, it’s a pretty busy week! That’s why I keep making the monthly update vids so people can prepare themselves for the month lol
@@BacklogBattle Time just flies by now. Like I knew it was MArch but it still felt like first week of March haha. Takes me over a month to play these JRPGs nowadays with work and life. So many good games I can't get to :(
I'm late to the party and I just finished the game. I'm a mess, I love Ryza and her friends and I'm sad to see them go. Despite its flaws I think this is my favourite Atelier game so far.
I'm waiting (as long it takes) for the ultimate edition trio bundle on switch... 50% off deal ✓_✓ for faraway dreary winter time to do enjoy this properly.
Whenever that will be, the warmth and wholesome storytelling will be sure to delight and surprise you! Though bundles like this typically don’t happen until many many many years later, if the Dusk and Mysterious DX releases are any indication! I don’t think I’ve seen those at 50% off either!
I'm playing Lulua right now because of some memes I saw, and I like the girly look of their character designs.
I'd love to try Ryza but I don't want to invest in three whole games. As well as get stuck with older mechanics and jank. Hopefully the next Atelier game next year builds off the improvements in Ryza but also features a new alchemist.
I'm happy for the fans that they are getting more of favorites, but we need a new girl to give people a place to start fresh.
I'm going to have to play all three of these aren't I.
At least it's just three games!
Should have stuck with switch version if I had know that blurry thing you mentioned.
I've yet to check reviews on the Switch, but from what I can tell, the PS4 version struggles in some parts. I wish I could've reported on the Switch version!
@xavi to Some news! th-cam.com/video/816mN-5TqD8/w-d-xo.html
Got all these games on ps4 and 5 becuase I wanted added performance and plus it’s expensive buying all of them on switch as well lol
Sometimes you just gotta pick a platform and stick with it!
i just started playing the atelier ryza trilogy last weekend , and , yes it got its flaws ( and strangely i like them :D) , i was hooked after 2 hours , and i stopped playing final fantasy rebirth for it ( oh boy🙀).
Is it fine if a new player like myself start playing Ryza 3 or will i have to play from 1?
9:28
I hope it’s playable in steam deck.
Should I jump straight into this one or should I play the other 2 first?
Other two first!
what did i get into?, i bought ryza 3 day one, but now im hesitant to unseal it until i havnt played ryza1&2 first...
Are you planning on getting the other games?
@@BacklogBattle probably going to buy them used on switch. ive found out they are rare now, especialy ryza1st. how do i unsee those thighs...
I've yet to finish Ryza 2😢
You can do it!
I can't watch this, cause I'm afraid of spoliers. I want to go in fresh, as Frank Costanza says. What's the score out of 10?
0. Review scores are too reductive
This game continues the trend of making the text way too small. I have my Switch screen 12" from my eyes and I can barely read much of the on screen text.
I've been in communication with their PR to see if they're doing anything about it. No word yet.
@@BacklogBattle Very cool and appreciated. Thanks for that.
Should I get it on switch or ps5?
You get bonuses if you get it on platforms where you’ve played the previous games on, so go with that
Disappointing to hear that they've basically ported the Switch version with its downgrades to PS5, since Sony's console is my main gaming system. At least it runs at 60 FPS. :)
They didn’t do that. If they did, the texture quality for all of the characters would be much lower.
@@BacklogBattle Ah, I see, thanks. Regarding the strong blur in the distance, I thought, nothing had been improved over the Switch version, besides framerate. Good to know, that also the character models look better on Sony's console. :)
9:20 ish I assure you, smaller Japanese is harder to read than smaller English. Its probably just poor space management.
Open world? But Ryza had the best squeeze throughs 😅
Oh it’s still there!
Maybe I'll wait when this patched up
I think It still won't beat mysterious trilogy & sophie2 for me
That may be true, but you can’t deny the effect that having a whole trilogy to herself has had on the overall storytelling! Even Iris didn’t have this sort of narrative progression! Different games, different approaches, and Ryza does something uniquely different than those!
@@BacklogBattle I enjoy more like a traditional turnbased more than what I experienced in Ryza1-2 so that led me to think 3 won't be that much different in terms of how much I enjoy the game. Sophie2 really nailed it for me, going from Sophie1 to big world exploration in Atelier firis really is refreshing experience too. I really love them.
But the biggest question still is: are the apples still horrendously low poly?
It’s certainly not at the level of Call of Duty’s apples 😂
No dub, no buy.
Shame, because this trilogy looks great. But I don't want to spend endless hours reading text from the bottom of a screen.
the bad of atelier 1 2 and 3 : no english dub.
Applies to every Atelier game released after Firis
Only problem I have with Atelier is there are no interesting villains and enemies.