Dude u only picked up the a7iii bcuz of the hype and so u can get more views 95% of your subs probably a sony a7iii fan boy just saying. Love all the camera brand but use them to make a good story. -sean tucker
Lately Canon is bashed as soon as their new offerings come out. What happens as time goes on, some discover that even though Canon does not have all of the bells and whistles, what it does have works well. Remember the 6D MK II. Panned at the start, but as time went on some vloggers discovered it worked pretty well for that purpose. I believe there is a trend where buying a camera with all of the features is not as important as having a camera that does what you need well. Other brands have nice things that Canon doesn't, but in my opinion at the end of the day, what Canon has fits the needs of most of what we need to do.
I think people just hate monopolies, which is natural. Yes there's Nikon, but even they aren't even close to an equal market share. Canon has always been established as the Mount Olympus with all the others being mere mortals. But in Canon's case, what you say really is true. There are just some things they've never been touchable on, the biggest being lenses which is arguably the most important element in photography. Color science can be corrected by using a ColorChecker passport. Ergonomics can be sucked up. But you can't sharpen a less sharp lens. You can't use a filter that makes a lesser lens render better color and contrast before the light even hits the sensor. Canon's lenses were already top, and with the RF lenses, they're now far exceeding the EF L lenses. Other companies have lenses that are constantly improving, but they're always many steps behind Canon.
Agreed. People just talk based on the specs and the trend. Then they switch up to get new views on a video that said opposite of what they did a yr ago video. Not specifically speaking on the content creator of this video, but in general this is what Im seeing.
Oh boy, there’s nothing quite like spending $$$$$ for an amateur camera body. But you get SICK TH-cam likes though, so that must get you... 2, maybe 3 extra amateur points? Collect 5 and you can almost pretend you’re professional! It would be really great if amateur youtubers could stop telling people the EOSR is a pro camera.
I can almost tell the same even when i haven't yet bought an EOS R. Too tired of getting everything extremely careful to get the final result right with Sony. Too mind consuming, too much worries.
Sitting here with the EOS R in my hands, deciding if I'm going to keep it. I've always been a Canon user and switched to Sony last year. Never got used to the colors and most of my time spent in grading is just fighting Sony's weird colors. Tried a couple of shots with the EOS R and am already sold. Going to try 10-bit today, but 8-bit in the EOS R is already awesome for grading.
Sony's color & contrast is extremely tricky & weird. I was happy when it came out, but over time now i realize too, it's way too tired trying to get it right everytime
I tried sony a73 and then a7r4 because people told that new sensor has good colors and they were wrong. Switching back to canon and will never look back.
For video, Canon's 1080 quality, DPAF and touchscreen EVERYTHING is still really hard to beat when it comes to 'in the field - under pressure to get the shoot' work.
Bought my R November of last year. Been using it in conjunction with my trusty 1D MK IV and an 80D when I want longer reach. More and more though, the R is taken out of the case over the other cams due to its absolutely fantastic image quality and focus speed and accuracy when taking pictures of the grand kids and all the activities we find ourselves on. I recently used the R combined with a Sigma 20mm f1.4 Art to shoot the Milky Way from Kauai. Love the images and its dead simple to use long exposure noise reduction as is with most Canon cameras these days.
Welcome to our Canon world. I've used Canon cameras since 1965. I'm terribly biased .. I have the Canon 5D Mk2, Mk3 & Mk4 .. Looking forward to the EOS R5 ..
I switched to Sony A7III for about 3 months from Canon 6D. I felt exactly how you described ... "Fighting with the camera" ... Too many post-production to make the picture looks nice. Now I switched to Canon EOS R.. no regrets.
I have experience using Olympus, Fuji, Sony, Nikon, canon and even Minolta before they bought over by sony. My experience with Canon is, it works. Even thought their spec may not be as attractive as other brand, but what ever is in the spec, works effectively. With Canon, you pick what you need, chose the right model, it will stay out of the way and let you shoot.
Regarding skin tone retention, canon is known to be the best. But lack of extra dynamic range kept me towards Nikon. Also the price range of nikon equivalent in canon is near double in case of still photography dslrs. For shooting videos, canon is the best among all.
Sounds like our needs are similar. I want a great photo camera that can handle video demands as well. I have an M50 and 6D. The R seems like the best of both of those cameras.
Did u get the eos r yet and how does it compare to the m50. Particularly when the m50 is paired with the viltrox. Iso quality of grain, 4k dpaf vs 1080 quality. And low light capabilities.
Bülent Babaoğlu sure for you it’s not for me out of digital I can only tolerate Canon , Fuji I still shoot fuji in Fuji film 🎞 and Sony for videos but for pictures none matches canon in digital world Again it’s to my liking that’s why there is milion different cameras because there is milion different taste right Arguing it it’s foolish So yep agree what’s best for you that is the best ✌🏼😂
Mars Channel bought the 5DM3 April 2012 brand new right at release. Still a monster today. One service after year 4 under warranty. Canon cameras are TANKS and great for heavy / daily use. (Daily wedding shooter) Love my M50 for travel and vlogging.
I had Canon DSLR for years, switched to A7Rii, awesome sensor, but the feel and effort to get what I wanted for stills was never as relatively effortless as my older bodies. An m50 I had on the side made me realise Canon mirrorless could work and I kept going back to the m50 over the Sony despite the massive difference in technical capabilities. Geez I wanted to love the Sony but it didn’t stick. I have now moved to the R (so glad I didn’t sell my EF L holy trinity) and a Fuji with small primes for grab and shoot on the street. Am shooting more often, having much more fun, getting great images with minimal effort. Can’t ask for more than that as a hobbyist.
same reason why i cant get rid of my 5dm4 - it takes excellent photos. While i love a7iii for video, sony takes a lot of post work getting the colors, tones right for the photos. Also, i find sony to be inconsistent for every shot -noticeable color shift with even small iso or lighting change.
Wesley Chapman honestly it’s kind of a situation type choice. If you want a camera that has everything you need for professional freelance work, the Sony a7iii will be your best friend. If you want to go the content creator route, the EOS R has been amazing to me. I just bought it a few days ago. Sony has relatively low bitrates so 1080p doesn’t looks great and sometimes I want only 1080. I always did pro work in 4K and proxy workflow isn’t fun sometimes. Also, I found myself VERY often fighting to get good colors when grading. Zombie skin tones too often. The EOS R literally feels so good in the hand. It makes me WANT to shoot. The ergonomics and menu usability is SO easy and fast. Straight out of camera with my profile dialed, canon colors truly are a thing. Footage looks so good off the bat. So less editing in post. I also really needed high bitrate 1080p and flip screen cause I’m quitting freelance and pursuing TH-cam next. TLDR: a7iii for pro work, eos r for content creating
@@korrze Thanks so much for such a thorough reply! I'm looking to upgrade to one or the other and keep going back and forth. I like the Sony for the Tamron 17-28 and 28-75mm lenses, but I already have a sigma 18-35mm for canon which would be a lot of fun on the EOS R. End of the day I'm really just looking to have a fun time photographing and maybe putting out some content, nothing professional any time soon. Also, Canon just feels a bit stingy to me as a brand these days and that sort of rubs me the wrong way, where as Sony I feel really gives people everything they're asking for. Although as you mentioned sometimes the quality isn't as good as it could be with bitrates and skin tones for Sony. Maybe I just wait for the Sony a7 iv or next version of the EOS R? Or nah it could be a while.
Wesley Chapman I think any which way, will just dictate how you do things. They’re all great. Canon does feel stingy with new stuff and Sony is awesome for sure
I also sold my A73 for an EOS R. I don't know why the EOS R got so much hate by the TH-cam community. It's a fantastic camera and an absolute joy to use. Great photo, solid video and oh man that new RF glass is so clean and sharp it's unbelievable. Hands down the best glass I have ever used with full frame cameras.
Man i have the eos r and was thinking of trading it for the a7riii. Iam doing videos most of the time and iam really confused if keeping my eos r or trade it with the sony? Does the coloring on the Sony takes too much time like ppl say? And does canon eos r produce same cenematic picture quality like the sony a7riii? Plz advice
My main genre is street style/urban style portraits, doing it for living. For me, it is absolutely a must, to have a great starting point for post processing, without having to do lot of tweaking. I just apply some presets and it's pretty much good to go. For this, the R has been invaluable. It also has INCREDIBLE jpeg output, which is crucial, because I can immediately deliver the jpegs to my clents after the shoots, and they already look amazing. It has possibly increased the number of photos that they purchase from each shoot, so don't underestimate the power of great looking JPEGs. In the last 6 months I have taken more than 45.000 photos with my R and I can say, that the face detect is extremely reliable, there has been really really few misfocuses, maybe like 1% or even lower.
i have tons of camera from Phase one，sony，leica，pentax. However，when i picked up my EOS R. I quite love it best. It is so easy to use and i dont need actually fight with it. The most fight i need to do is when i use phase one. The EOS R is so relax to use，faster to edit and white balance is so accurate. It is amazing
Bought one a few days ago and it's the best decision I could have made. Same as you, I wanted something compact that shoots great photo and video. I don't really care about downsize 4k or the crop. I want superior color, color grading, lens ecosystem. After their new firmware came out with the eye tracking (I vlog) that was it for me. Immediately bought it. Something that you don't think about until you use it is that Canon's flip out screen offers touch menus, not just touch focus, (unlike Sony where the touch screen is just for focus). So when I film myself for my channel or vlogging, I don't have to get up and walk around the camera. Nor do I have to turn it around to hit actual buttons while walking around. This was a GAME-CHANGER for me.
I have also tried Canon EOS R but there are too many shortcomings so I keep my Sony A7III that just is better in so many areas! In a couple of years, Canon EOS R will be remembered as Canon's first not-so-good mirrorless camera and it also won't be remembered for much innovation, and the market also shows that people much more choose the Sony A7III for many good reasons!
Owning an A7RIII, A7III, and an EOS R, I can see definitely the merit and appeal of owning an EOS R. I initially was very critical of the video specs on it, but owning one now and Into my first month I definitely softened my critique of it, and have grown to really, really love it. For both photos and video, its a joy to shoot with, and can easily slot with other setups. Ultimately, I think there's a fair amount of tradeoffs for each system, and it does also depend on the work you do. Photography wise, I wouldn't trade the two card slots because I've had an SD card fail on me, and having that backup is invaluable. And at higher ISOs, I do think Canon's fall apart way faster, and thus value the Sony's ability to keep it clean. But the EOS R has a much nicer grip, a better EVF compared to the Mark III series of the all the A7 cameras, solid photography features akin to the 5D series, and underrated video specs (I'm eager to pair this with an Atomos), make it a keeper in my book, and I'm happy to own one. That said though, I still don't agree with a lot of people about Sony colors being so starkly different to the point of having to do hoops and hurdles, for photos. While the "Canon look" is nice, it's not the end-all, be-all for photography, and you can easily get fantastic skin tones on a Sony with very minor tweaking. From a filmmaking standpoint, however, I'd agree more that it's trouble to grade, especially when stretching out the colors in post; matching profiles sometimes is a straight-up pain in the ass. 4K full frame is great, but I would say for people who want to grade or match footage, the winner would be an EOS R over the Sony's, especially with its deeper megabit rate.
Man i have the eos r and was thinking of trading it for the a7riii. Iam doing videos most of the time and iam really confused if keeping my eos r or trade it with the sony? Does the coloring on the Sony takes too much time like ppl say? And does canon eos r produce same cenematic picture quality like the sony a7riii? Plz advice
@@DonGutierrez np at all with it. Its great camera. But I was thinking may be i benefit from the 4k full frame of the sony and the low light performance? But at the same moment iam afraid of its colors and color grading in post. and its complexity in menus. so i ask you coz you used both :D
@@ZaaM1 Gotcha! I'm happy to provide my opinions on it, based off personal use. So in terms of video, I'd say straight out of the box, without any tweaks with picture profiles, the Canon wins for video colors by a small margin. That's strictly if, and only if, you don't layout settings to adjust it. But nobody who takes their craft seriously uses base settings without personal touches. I've actually liked the EOSHD HDR for A7III/RIII cameras and have felt the tweaks have removed some of the weird color shifts I have in Sony's colors (for example, the base Sony had some orange midtones in a Red shirt that I felt were off versus the EOSHD profile that looked much more appealing). I've done some mild talking heads for documentaries and other fun projects and found this profile to be quite nice, and pretty on par if not better with the results I get on a Canon. But this is my opinion, others may not agree. I can show you some side by sides if you want to do your own analysis. In addition, I like the fact I have really solid low light performance on the Sony and no crop. The Sony suffers when you need to do much heavier grading because its limited to 100 mbps per second for 4K (while the EOS R has a robust 400 mbps in 4K), but, I'm also a firm believer if you shoot it right, combined with ND filters and quality lenses, you can get incredible results, with either system. There's a lot of back and forth between a Sony vs a Canon. It's really all a matter of preference, but I think the Sony's are a lot more manageable than what others are willing to let on. A person who does a really good analysis and dive into them is Gerald Undone in this video: th-cam.com/video/9E8doNzDymo/w-d-xo.html Quick note: The conversation gets a lot deeper when you start doing C-Log vs S-Log, 8bit vs 10bit, and using a recorder with the EOS R. Despite the crop factor, I will say the 10 bit C-Log recording on the Atomos does a really outstanding job in colors and texture. Hope this helps. Feel free to DM me if you have any more questions and/or want some side by side comparisons. I can also send you my settings on my A7RIII.
@@DonGutierrez Thx mate for yr great advises. and what if i want to trade the canon eos r with a7sii? is it better also like the a7riii or the canon better than the a7sii?? coz my budget is so limited and i think i cant offer the a7riii atm . someone offered me to trade my eos r with its adapter with his sony a7sii includes its EF adapter also. what do you think ? does it worth the trade? note: most of my work is with studio lights and iam not professional in color grading and i want to work with videos like interviews,events,commercials,etc
I love the part you shared about the amount of editing required just to bring the Sony picture to a good image quality. It’s the same reason I took my a7III back. When I got my EOS R I was SHOCKED how good it was, especially that 10bit 4.2.2 pro res HQ!
I have the BMPCC4K as well with the Canon 1Dx mark 2 and I am actually selling the 1dx to get the EOS R so totally understand why you are switching to it.
Still have my 6D after all these years. I am satisfied. Thinking about upgrade to Canon R or RP soon. You are just convincing me to stay Canon. It's true with Canon post process Raw file only need slightly touch up.
I would pull the trigger if it had 1080p 120fps, unfortunately... I'll have to wait for the next model. Until then, all of my EF lenses will collect dust for video.
Dude you can shot 720 120 and upscale it to 1080 with np or just if you want smooth slowmo you can shot 1080 60 and generate great slowmo in post like i do.
At the beginning of 2019 I was on a eos r and I sold it for a z6 and that didn’t last long, sent that camera back so fast.... then I some how ended up with a sony a7III and I am currently selling it to go back to the eos r... I miss that camera for its easy work flow for video/ photo work.
I thought I was crazy for my indecisive personality when I always regret my purchase. Reading your comment makes me things that's it doesn't matter, sometimes we have to go around to find out what we actually love.
Thank you for your video. I just subscribed. Recently I switched from Fuji X-T3 to Canon EOS R and I am not looking back. Fuji was great but I find the EOS R, not just a professional gear but really fun to shoot with. The images I get out of this camera are phenomenal.
I bought the R the day it was released I knew the moment canon went mirrorless I was going that route.... I’ve shot with every companies mirrorless system but nikons but I always went back to canon now I don’t have to leave any more love my R
Hello I switched to EOS R from 5dmark3. At the beggining I was not really impressed, until I got the RF lenses - 24-105f4. Then my jaw went of the floor when I saw the sharpness. This is really a different galaxy comparing old 5dm3. Initially I planned to leave all my old lenses used with 5dmark3 and use adaptor, but after what I saw I am putting all of them on sale in order to purchase only new RF lenses. EOS R combined with those razor sharp lenses they produced is a total 5dmark killer. The old photos are not even close to this what I am doing with eos R now. My target RF lenses now would be the 50-200 , 24-105 and 85. Before buying the 85 I have to wait to sell a house :) I know it sounds crazy but I have a small house after my mother which will be sold in next weeks, and I decided to wait with the purchase until the house is sold :))))
The thing that really gets me with the Canon cameras is the image sensors. If I lift the shadows even just one stop the image starts to fall apart. With almost every other camera brand you can lift the shadows or exposure sometimes 6 or 7 stops without seeing any additional noise... It's absolutely crazy and so many people don't know about this. When in any high contrast lighting situation with a Canon you are screwed because if you under expose to preserve the highlights, there is no bringing it back up in post without a ridiculous amount of noise and colour shift. The Eos R would be comparable to the a7iii if Canon fixed the ISO in-variance on their sensors, removed the 1.8x Crop, and AT LEAST allowed auto focus with their 720p Slow Motion... Like jeez Canon what are you doing! Stop crippling your cameras... It's the photographer and not the camera that get the results. It's great that you as the photographer can make great use of this camera. This is the newer camera... Sony will be announcing 4 new bodies shortly. I hope Canon's pro body mirrorless will have some real specs to offer.
Got the RP. Definitely not the video workhorse the R is, but I have come to love it as well. Canon cameras piss me off but if you just use them they’re great cameras.
I used my Eos-R recently on a vlog I shot up in the mountains. Having used the GH5 previously, I found the R to be so nice to use with the autofocus and image. If this camera had 4k 60fps and some other bells and whistles the competitors have, it'd be the camera everyone wants. Instead all people do is whinge about it's negative points. I tried it with the Atomos Inferno with 4k output into ProRes and it looks fantastic.
First time viewer here. It was a bit hard to focus on your content because I was exerting too much energy being horrified at your uncapped cameras, lol. Had to keep rewinding to reprise what you said. :-O
True. I just have been a strong anti-dust proponent, even with my film cameras. Why have to clean something if you can avoid it by keeping them capped or lensed. Just a personal foible of mine, lol.
I've rented the EOS R twice now and... while there are problems with the EVF update speed with tracking... it is an insanely well thought-out camera. I wish it were as easy to use as the 5DMKIV, but in the mirrorless world it is insane.
I switched from Canon to Sony last year, a few month before the EOS r was released. If i had known that a Canon system camera will be announced, I probably would have brought the eos r instrad. But now I Love the Sony, i agree that it has a lot of isues. But i am very happy with it. its cool that we have So Many options nowadays
I guess this decision only makes sense because you already have EF glass you didn't want to switch away from. The greatest advantage you're getting here is the use of your lenses with full compatibility. I personally can't switch from the A7III to the EOS R. Lots of client work requires that I have dual SD card slots, I can't have a memory card crap out on me and ruining an entire shoot. However, I do get the appeal of using one set of lenses as well, it's very convenient.
@@highstyleproductions5112 I understand what you're saying but it's still a workaround, which doesn't work for video. I haven't had a card fail on me as well, but it only takes for it to happen one time to not be able to deliver and disappoint your client.
Gerardo Molina I get it I guess my mind was set at ease speaking to the people at my local camera shop they said they never seen a card fail but many card slots.... just gotta pray everything works lol
@@highstyleproductions5112 Hopefully the firmware updates have helped with stability too. I remember when the EOS R was first unveiled, Tony Northup had a card corrupted by the EOS R. He pretty much lost all the shots he took when reviewing the camera at Canon's event. If I had the EOS R for video at an event, I'd use an external recorder like the Ninja V. SSDs are much more reliable than SD cards. Plus you get the extra boost in image quality =)
Gerardo Molina I stopped listening to Tony I don’t trust his reviews much anymore... Kai is my go to he seems to give every camera a fair chance and a honest review... I’ve had no problem with mine from day 1 not even an error code I might have just gotten lucky though that happens lol... That’s good to know about the ssd I didn’t know that at all... I’m mainly a photography guy I’m starting to get into video though...... I’m thinking about buying a different camera just for that but I love the results from the R
Sony is like Android and all the great phones - you get something really good but you have to customize it the way you need - and Canon is like Apple - you take it, use it and it looks good right of the box and it is reliable
I absolutely love my EOS R. I wouldn't use anything else. Just small thoughtful touches that make usability a joy. The fact that the shutters close when you remove the lens. And of course - the images out of this camera are absolutely stunning. You made a good choice!
This is a great video. I’m a Sony user. Prior Canon user haha but I still really enjoyed this and understand where you are coming from. That built in ND in the EOS R is a really dope feature. Love that.
Ryan Nanca yeah I’m aware. it’s actually $400 and well worth it in my opinion. I’d rather spend that and adapt any EF glass to it without having screw a filter off and on
Chris Wheelington I get it, the convenience is pretty awesome. The only drawback (aside from the price) is if you don’t need the ND filter in there, there’s a huge hole in the side of your adapter. So you either gotta cover it with gaffers tape or buy one of the other expensive drop in filters to take its place. It’s a bit expensive IMO, especially for not also having a control ring.
Ryan Nanca yeah the clear filter is another $100 but the Polar Pro PM ND Filter set is is pretty much the same price lol so it all’s all the same. Just depends on your workflow and what you want you know?
Think about what 120fps is really useful for. It’s eye candy with no real storytelling element. It’s used as a stylistic element and not helping a story move forward. I see it on TH-cam as a style crutch.
I couldn’t be happier with my R. I was going to wait for the pro version but it packs quite a punch and seeing that I’ve been on 1DX and 5D cameras, I need to start to reprogram my mind on the new system. Even though I jumped right in and had little to no issues. The menu system and custom functions are so good. It’s like a mini Mark IV.
One mistake many Sony users make is adapting Canon glass to e-mount and expecting auto focus to perform as intended. I’ve heard a lot of people complain about autofocus capabilities of Sony cameras and then when I ask what glass they are using, find out they are using canon. The autofocus speed and reliability of Sony on Sony is unreal. I seriously considered the EOS R but after testing out the cameras auto focus I couldn’t move that direction. I also do shoot high action sport photography so take my opinion with a grain of salt. When canon drops a mirror less that shoots 10 FPS burst with reliable fast intelligent autofocus I’ll sell all my Sony equipment and come back to the Canon ecosystem.
Good video. First video of yours I’ve watched and I like what I heard / seen. I just bought the Eos R myself. I also have the RP which I plan on selling but they’re both amazing cameras. The image quality alone is cherry 🍒! Especially after post.
Your the first person with a similar experience to mine with Sony. I'm always fighting it in post.. I don't want to spend the rest of my life behind a computer screen so I have been looking at other options, apprecaite the video.
Appropriate that this follows your gear video 😉. Seriously tho, congrats. I shoot on an a7iii and love it, but if you can live with the crop and prefer the colors I totally get your choice. Keep creating!
@@st0n3ymontana same for Nikon dslrs. Now 10-20mm dx lens is available in $300 range, so we can stop worrying about crop factor and just go out and shoot. If we aren't much concerned about more bokeh and less noise, APSC sensor is more than enough.
I used to try to use canon glass on my Sony and didn’t like the experience. Getting Sony native glass cleared all that up for me. I prefer Sony’s more accurate colors to canons magenta shifted ones. I can always make it look like that in post or not.
As a Canon+Nikon to sony user i was having the colour issue for photos initially but was able to rectify it with picture profile Light and values +1 0 +1 to get canon colours...also was able to get nikon colours with deep pictr profile and some tweeks inside the value...
So why didn't you go to a Fujifilm X-T3? Has better focus, better video, is weather sealed, cheaper, really sharp lenses, can get adapters for other manufactures glass.
It seems he is more of a video shooter and seems a bit lazy or the little things drive him crazy . He will sacrifice quality for ease of use . If he thinks the EOSR is a better photography camera than the Sony cameras he named in his video it is obvious he is just interested in posting on social media because if he was pushing his photography to the limits he would see a big difference in the image quality of a Canon compared to a A7R3 . Even a 5 year old Nikon D810 is a much better photography camera than anything Canon makes .
we really do not care "why you are switching.." but to tell you the truth you really not a photographer that is why you are "switching..." You are a Utube personally that wants to build a base of followers to make easy money. There is nothing wrong with making money, good luck with that.
I've used a R briefly and really liked it - but occasionally I will need 120fps - I wish someone would compare the actual quality of its 120 with say the A73 or Z6.
Thank you for this excellent video. I am a longtime Canon owner. But lately I have become disillusioned with Canon's newer mid-range cameras. I want to begin making videos but the Canon cameras seems to be behind the other cameras when it comes to video. I have been seriously considering going over to Sony. However, I do have a considerable investment in Canon lenses. Two things I really like about Canon is the articulating screen and the menu system. Your video is very helpful. I will be renting a Canon R over the Thanksgiving weekend to try it out. Good job.
I am a Canon and a Sony user, I have both for photography, and to be honest if you put a photo side to side you cannot identify which one is for Sony or Canon. But what I really hate about Canon and is only for safe reasons, is because the R system doesn’t have dual card slots and the dynamic range is not that great like Sony. As a pro you need dual cards for any back up.
Excellent review Matt! can't wait to get my R quite like the idea of getting some Sigma Art lenses, a used 18-35 1.8 and the 35 1.4 to go with my canon glass
I couldn't imagine giving up the better human and animal eye af, better sports tracking, much faster FPS of 8 FPS with tracking vs 3.5 FPS, low light performance, shadow and highlight recovery from the dual gain sensor design and IBIS of the sony so you can shoot hand held much more than you can with the Canon. @Matt Gonzalez What profile and editing software were you making your decisions of better color on? I've not experienced skin tones that were off or difficult to work with? The only current advantages the Canon EOS R system has is a shutter curtain that closes when the lens is off so less dust if you are not careful, 1.2 lenses (albeit much bigger and heavier and more expensive)IF you need them for even blurrier backgrounds, but because the current EOS R sensor is inferior in light gathering and resolution they actually resolve less detail than an A7R III or IV with even a standard 24-105 lens. The canon EOS R does have better low light AF in very dim conditions. If you shoot jpeg in controlled lighting or only do very minor tweaks in raw I could see the EOS R being ok especially if you have Canon glass but not if you have the option to start fresh and go Sony. otherwise the EOS R feels like a very slow dated camera that feels very limited when you go to import the images into the RAW editor and even post firmware last month the eye AF was laggy and still missed compared to the Sony.
To each their own Matt- for a lot of things u mention, I agree with what u are saying, and I’m glad u found a system that work for u! But for me, there’s still just so many things that canon cripples with their cameras that make the EOS R such a difficult camera to choose for it’s price: no dual card slots, no 4K without a massive crop, and no USB C charging without a proprietary cable.
It charges without the proprietary charger. You just need something with power delivery, currently using Anker charger and I use aps-c lenses to address the crop. Coming 70d I have a few sitting around.
Question seeing that you also use BMPCC do you notice a big difference since the EOS R only shoots 8bit? How does that high bit rate on the EOS R help? Seems like the only thing it has over the Fuji is that it is Full Frame.
For stills, is there any reason why a given RAW processing application would produce wildly different colors between different cameras? I.e - it was my understanding that the raw software has profiles for each camera, which should in theory make all cameras look nearly the same. If not - why?
As a Sony user I picked up an EOS R awhile ago and to be honest I am loving it more than I thought I would.
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Dude u only picked up the a7iii bcuz of the hype and so u can get more views 95% of your subs probably a sony a7iii fan boy just saying. Love all the camera brand but use them to make a good story. -sean tucker
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Whoa, really?
moving from a 5d3 to an R
Lately Canon is bashed as soon as their new offerings come out. What happens as time goes on, some discover that even though Canon does not have all of the bells and whistles, what it does have works well. Remember the 6D MK II. Panned at the start, but as time went on some vloggers discovered it worked pretty well for that purpose. I believe there is a trend where buying a camera with all of the features is not as important as having a camera that does what you need well. Other brands have nice things that Canon doesn't, but in my opinion at the end of the day, what Canon has fits the needs of most of what we need to do.
Dont worry, bashing is marketing stragegy did by competitor to destroy their enemy.
1 word: Canon Lenses
I think people just hate monopolies, which is natural. Yes there's Nikon, but even they aren't even close to an equal market share. Canon has always been established as the Mount Olympus with all the others being mere mortals. But in Canon's case, what you say really is true. There are just some things they've never been touchable on, the biggest being lenses which is arguably the most important element in photography. Color science can be corrected by using a ColorChecker passport. Ergonomics can be sucked up. But you can't sharpen a less sharp lens. You can't use a filter that makes a lesser lens render better color and contrast before the light even hits the sensor. Canon's lenses were already top, and with the RF lenses, they're now far exceeding the EF L lenses. Other companies have lenses that are constantly improving, but they're always many steps behind Canon.
Agreed. People just talk based on the specs and the trend. Then they switch up to get new views on a video that said opposite of what they did a yr ago video. Not specifically speaking on the content creator of this video, but in general this is what Im seeing.
@@longliveclassicmusic Amen brotha!
I got my R last week, and I’m also really impressed with it. I had no idea what to expect, but it’s a killer camera.
Quick question, as a photographer that shoots festivals and gigs i am looking to either purchase a new eos r or do i buy 2 second hand 5dmk iii ?
I can fully relate to this lately
If you haven’t tried an R I definitely recommend it.
R I ???
@@markbravo6842 "If you haven’t tried an EOS R , I definitely recommend it."
Oh boy, there’s nothing quite like spending $$$$$ for an amateur camera body.
But you get SICK TH-cam likes though, so that must get you... 2, maybe 3 extra amateur points?
Collect 5 and you can almost pretend you’re professional!
It would be really great if amateur youtubers could stop telling people the EOSR is a pro camera.
I can almost tell the same even when i haven't yet bought an EOS R. Too tired of getting everything extremely careful to get the final result right with Sony. Too mind consuming, too much worries.
Sitting here with the EOS R in my hands, deciding if I'm going to keep it. I've always been a Canon user and switched to Sony last year. Never got used to the colors and most of my time spent in grading is just fighting Sony's weird colors. Tried a couple of shots with the EOS R and am already sold. Going to try 10-bit today, but 8-bit in the EOS R is already awesome for grading.
Sony's color & contrast is extremely tricky & weird. I was happy when it came out, but over time now i realize too, it's way too tired trying to get it right everytime
I tried sony a73 and then a7r4 because people told that new sensor has good colors and they were wrong. Switching back to canon and will never look back.
For video, Canon's 1080 quality, DPAF and touchscreen EVERYTHING is still really hard to beat when it comes to 'in the field - under pressure to get the shoot' work.
Bought my R November of last year. Been using it in conjunction with my trusty 1D MK IV and an 80D when I want longer reach. More and more though, the R is taken out of the case over the other cams due to its absolutely fantastic image quality and focus speed and accuracy when taking pictures of the grand kids and all the activities we find ourselves on. I recently used the R combined with a Sigma 20mm f1.4 Art to shoot the Milky Way from Kauai. Love the images and its dead simple to use long exposure noise reduction as is with most Canon cameras these days.
I’ve been thinking about doing the same thing
Dude this was so refreshing to see a sony user break the EOS R down for their needs! Good for you dude! Also, so glad I found your page dude!
I love my Eos R as well. It’s an outstanding camera for TH-cam creations especially.
Welcome to our Canon world. I've used Canon cameras since 1965. I'm terribly biased .. I have the Canon 5D Mk2, Mk3 & Mk4 .. Looking forward to the EOS R5 ..
I switched to Sony A7III for about 3 months from Canon 6D. I felt exactly how you described ... "Fighting with the camera" ... Too many post-production to make the picture looks nice. Now I switched to Canon EOS R.. no regrets.
I have experience using Olympus, Fuji, Sony, Nikon, canon and even Minolta before they bought over by sony.
My experience with Canon is, it works. Even thought their spec may not be as attractive as other brand, but what ever is in the spec, works effectively.
With Canon, you pick what you need, chose the right model, it will stay out of the way and let you shoot.
been thinking about doing the same. Canons skin tones are just way better than my a7iii
Regarding skin tone retention, canon is known to be the best. But lack of extra dynamic range kept me towards Nikon. Also the price range of nikon equivalent in canon is near double in case of still photography dslrs. For shooting videos, canon is the best among all.
@@Dave_en Color amazing on the Canon but the AF is better on the Sony A7III ! :-) (I have both the Sony A7III and The Canon 5DmkIV)
@@lemon58421 yeah heard about that. Every year one brand gets ahead of other in some way or other. Agree, Sony is doing better nowadays.
Welcome aboard! The EOS R is an awesome camera.
Sounds like our needs are similar. I want a great photo camera that can handle video demands as well. I have an M50 and 6D. The R seems like the best of both of those cameras.
Did u get the eos r yet and how does it compare to the m50. Particularly when the m50 is paired with the viltrox. Iso quality of grain, 4k dpaf vs 1080 quality. And low light capabilities.
I got a 5D mk IV but since I purshaded the eos r, it became my main camera, I love it so much! the electronic VF is a game changer
Good choice. Still loving my Canon 5D Mark III.
Have you ever used sony or any fuji?
Bülent Babaoğlu canon is better
@@MarsKvaratskhelia no it is not.
Bülent Babaoğlu sure for you it’s not for me out of digital I can only tolerate Canon , Fuji I still shoot fuji in Fuji film 🎞 and Sony for videos but for pictures none matches canon in digital world
Again it’s to my liking that’s why there is milion different cameras because there is milion different taste right
Arguing it it’s foolish
So yep agree what’s best for you that is the best ✌🏼😂
Mars Channel bought the 5DM3 April 2012 brand new right at release. Still a monster today. One service after year 4 under warranty.
Canon cameras are TANKS and great for heavy / daily use. (Daily wedding shooter)
Love my M50 for travel and vlogging.
i'm still using my 6D mk 1, with its wifi and New Zealand landscape...its just perfect..
I had Canon DSLR for years, switched to A7Rii, awesome sensor, but the feel and effort to get what I wanted for stills was never as relatively effortless as my older bodies. An m50 I had on the side made me realise Canon mirrorless could work and I kept going back to the m50 over the Sony despite the massive difference in technical capabilities. Geez I wanted to love the Sony but it didn’t stick. I have now moved to the R (so glad I didn’t sell my EF L holy trinity) and a Fuji with small primes for grab and shoot on the street. Am shooting more often, having much more fun, getting great images with minimal effort. Can’t ask for more than that as a hobbyist.
I agree, even I still love my Canon PSA because it's so simple and 7x zoom (35-210) is so fun & versatile.
same reason why i cant get rid of my 5dm4 - it takes excellent photos. While i love a7iii for video, sony takes a lot of post work getting the colors, tones right for the photos. Also, i find sony to be inconsistent for every shot -noticeable color shift with even small iso or lighting change.
I’ve been using an a7iii for the past year. I’m about to make the switch soon to the EOS R!
not digging the a7iii much? Curious to know why, as I'm keen to get that or the R
Wesley Chapman honestly it’s kind of a situation type choice. If you want a camera that has everything you need for professional freelance work, the Sony a7iii will be your best friend. If you want to go the content creator route, the EOS R has been amazing to me. I just bought it a few days ago.
Sony has relatively low bitrates so 1080p doesn’t looks great and sometimes I want only 1080. I always did pro work in 4K and proxy workflow isn’t fun sometimes. Also, I found myself VERY often fighting to get good colors when grading. Zombie skin tones too often.
The EOS R literally feels so good in the hand. It makes me WANT to shoot. The ergonomics and menu usability is SO easy and fast. Straight out of camera with my profile dialed, canon colors truly are a thing. Footage looks so good off the bat. So less editing in post. I also really needed high bitrate 1080p and flip screen cause I’m quitting freelance and pursuing TH-cam next.
TLDR: a7iii for pro work, eos r for content creating
@@korrze Thanks so much for such a thorough reply! I'm looking to upgrade to one or the other and keep going back and forth. I like the Sony for the Tamron 17-28 and 28-75mm lenses, but I already have a sigma 18-35mm for canon which would be a lot of fun on the EOS R. End of the day I'm really just looking to have a fun time photographing and maybe putting out some content, nothing professional any time soon. Also, Canon just feels a bit stingy to me as a brand these days and that sort of rubs me the wrong way, where as Sony I feel really gives people everything they're asking for. Although as you mentioned sometimes the quality isn't as good as it could be with bitrates and skin tones for Sony. Maybe I just wait for the Sony a7 iv or next version of the EOS R? Or nah it could be a while.
Wesley Chapman I think any which way, will just dictate how you do things. They’re all great. Canon does feel stingy with new stuff and Sony is awesome for sure
Sold my a9 for Canon R and never regretted it.
I also sold my A73 for an EOS R. I don't know why the EOS R got so much hate by the TH-cam community. It's a fantastic camera and an absolute joy to use. Great photo, solid video and oh man that new RF glass is so clean and sharp it's unbelievable. Hands down the best glass I have ever used with full frame cameras.
Man i have the eos r and was thinking of trading it for the a7riii. Iam doing videos most of the time and iam really confused if keeping my eos r or trade it with the sony?
Does the coloring on the Sony takes too much time like ppl say? And does canon eos r produce same cenematic picture quality like the sony a7riii?
Plz advice
Love the simplicity of the video and your content!! Here since the day you used to make Vlogs which I still miss a lot!
Canon is like ADOBE or APPLE, too many haters, but at the end they know it just WORKS!
Don't bring Apple into this. Yes it just works, expensively.
@@melomaniakjm Canon a
Adobe yes
Apple no...
I have both the BMPCC4K and Canon EOS R as well, great combination!
Filmkit
Its a dream combination lol I went from Canon 5D2 to Sony a7rii and got a fuji xt-1 then sold both and got the EOS R
Interesting. Can you match these too well? I'm having problems matching my a7iii with my bmpcc4k, especially if my grade is heavy.
My main genre is street style/urban style portraits, doing it for living. For me, it is absolutely a must, to have a great starting point for post processing, without having to do lot of tweaking. I just apply some presets and it's pretty much good to go. For this, the R has been invaluable.
It also has INCREDIBLE jpeg output, which is crucial, because I can immediately deliver the jpegs to my clents after the shoots, and they already look amazing. It has possibly increased the number of photos that they purchase from each shoot, so don't underestimate the power of great looking JPEGs.
In the last 6 months I have taken more than 45.000 photos with my R and I can say, that the face detect is extremely reliable, there has been really really few misfocuses, maybe like 1% or even lower.
i have tons of camera from Phase one，sony，leica，pentax. However，when i picked up my EOS R. I quite love it best. It is so easy to use and i dont need actually fight with it. The most fight i need to do is when i use phase one. The EOS R is so relax to use，faster to edit and white balance is so accurate. It is amazing
Quite expensive.
Always interesting to hear about camera choices, glad you've found something that works well for you!
Thanks so much for making this man. This confirmed my decision of switching from the a7iii to the 1DXii and getting the EOS R as my B cam
Just watched your video before i found this one!
Hafidh Turmuji haha that’s awesome!
Bought one a few days ago and it's the best decision I could have made. Same as you, I wanted something compact that shoots great photo and video. I don't really care about downsize 4k or the crop. I want superior color, color grading, lens ecosystem. After their new firmware came out with the eye tracking (I vlog) that was it for me. Immediately bought it. Something that you don't think about until you use it is that Canon's flip out screen offers touch menus, not just touch focus, (unlike Sony where the touch screen is just for focus). So when I film myself for my channel or vlogging, I don't have to get up and walk around the camera. Nor do I have to turn it around to hit actual buttons while walking around. This was a GAME-CHANGER for me.
I have also tried Canon EOS R but there are too many shortcomings so I keep my Sony A7III that just is better in so many areas! In a couple of years, Canon EOS R will be remembered as Canon's first not-so-good mirrorless camera and it also won't be remembered for much innovation, and the market also shows that people much more choose the Sony A7III for many good reasons!
Owning an A7RIII, A7III, and an EOS R, I can see definitely the merit and appeal of owning an EOS R. I initially was very critical of the video specs on it, but owning one now and Into my first month I definitely softened my critique of it, and have grown to really, really love it. For both photos and video, its a joy to shoot with, and can easily slot with other setups.
Ultimately, I think there's a fair amount of tradeoffs for each system, and it does also depend on the work you do. Photography wise, I wouldn't trade the two card slots because I've had an SD card fail on me, and having that backup is invaluable. And at higher ISOs, I do think Canon's fall apart way faster, and thus value the Sony's ability to keep it clean. But the EOS R has a much nicer grip, a better EVF compared to the Mark III series of the all the A7 cameras, solid photography features akin to the 5D series, and underrated video specs (I'm eager to pair this with an Atomos), make it a keeper in my book, and I'm happy to own one.
That said though, I still don't agree with a lot of people about Sony colors being so starkly different to the point of having to do hoops and hurdles, for photos. While the "Canon look" is nice, it's not the end-all, be-all for photography, and you can easily get fantastic skin tones on a Sony with very minor tweaking. From a filmmaking standpoint, however, I'd agree more that it's trouble to grade, especially when stretching out the colors in post; matching profiles sometimes is a straight-up pain in the ass.
4K full frame is great, but I would say for people who want to grade or match footage, the winner would be an EOS R over the Sony's, especially with its deeper megabit rate.
Man i have the eos r and was thinking of trading it for the a7riii. Iam doing videos most of the time and iam really confused if keeping my eos r or trade it with the sony?
Does the coloring on the Sony takes too much time like ppl say? And does canon eos r produce same cenematic picture quality like the sony a7riii?
Plz advice
@@ZaaM1 What problems do you have with the EOS R, if I may ask?
@@DonGutierrez np at all with it. Its great camera. But I was thinking may be i benefit from the 4k full frame of the sony and the low light performance?
But at the same moment iam afraid of its colors and color grading in post. and its complexity in menus.
so i ask you coz you used both :D
@@ZaaM1 Gotcha! I'm happy to provide my opinions on it, based off personal use.
So in terms of video, I'd say straight out of the box, without any tweaks with picture profiles, the Canon wins for video colors by a small margin. That's strictly if, and only if, you don't layout settings to adjust it.
But nobody who takes their craft seriously uses base settings without personal touches. I've actually liked the EOSHD HDR for A7III/RIII cameras and have felt the tweaks have removed some of the weird color shifts I have in Sony's colors (for example, the base Sony had some orange midtones in a Red shirt that I felt were off versus the EOSHD profile that looked much more appealing). I've done some mild talking heads for documentaries and other fun projects and found this profile to be quite nice, and pretty on par if not better with the results I get on a Canon. But this is my opinion, others may not agree. I can show you some side by sides if you want to do your own analysis.
In addition, I like the fact I have really solid low light performance on the Sony and no crop. The Sony suffers when you need to do much heavier grading because its limited to 100 mbps per second for 4K (while the EOS R has a robust 400 mbps in 4K), but, I'm also a firm believer if you shoot it right, combined with ND filters and quality lenses, you can get incredible results, with either system.
There's a lot of back and forth between a Sony vs a Canon. It's really all a matter of preference, but I think the Sony's are a lot more manageable than what others are willing to let on. A person who does a really good analysis and dive into them is Gerald Undone in this video: th-cam.com/video/9E8doNzDymo/w-d-xo.html
Quick note: The conversation gets a lot deeper when you start doing C-Log vs S-Log, 8bit vs 10bit, and using a recorder with the EOS R. Despite the crop factor, I will say the 10 bit C-Log recording on the Atomos does a really outstanding job in colors and texture.
Hope this helps. Feel free to DM me if you have any more questions and/or want some side by side comparisons. I can also send you my settings on my A7RIII.
@@DonGutierrez Thx mate for yr great advises. and what if i want to trade the canon eos r with a7sii? is it better also like the a7riii or the canon better than the a7sii?? coz my budget is so limited and i think i cant offer the a7riii atm . someone offered me to trade my eos r with its adapter with his sony a7sii includes its EF adapter also. what do you think ? does it worth the trade?
note: most of my work is with studio lights and iam not professional in color grading and i want to work with videos like interviews,events,commercials,etc
I love the part you shared about the amount of editing required just to bring the Sony picture to a good image quality. It’s the same reason I took my a7III back. When I got my EOS R I was SHOCKED how good it was, especially that 10bit 4.2.2 pro res HQ!
I have the BMPCC4K as well with the Canon 1Dx mark 2 and I am actually selling the 1dx to get the EOS R so totally understand why you are switching to it.
Still have my 6D after all these years. I am satisfied. Thinking about upgrade to Canon R or RP soon. You are just convincing me to stay Canon. It's true with Canon post process Raw file only need slightly touch up.
I love my EOS-R...When I need more 4k stuff then I use my X-T3 to balance what I don't have in the EOS-R :)
Well, when all my fiends move to sony, i ensist to stay with canon because all the reason you said above.
I would pull the trigger if it had 1080p 120fps, unfortunately... I'll have to wait for the next model. Until then, all of my EF lenses will collect dust for video.
Dude you can shot 720 120 and upscale it to 1080 with np or just if you want smooth slowmo you can shot 1080 60 and generate great slowmo in post like i do.
@@ZaaM1 how is the upscale quality?
At the beginning of 2019 I was on a eos r and I sold it for a z6 and that didn’t last long, sent that camera back so fast.... then I some how ended up with a sony a7III and I am currently selling it to go back to the eos r... I miss that camera for its easy work flow for video/ photo work.
We Are The James's What made you return the Z6?
I thought I was crazy for my indecisive personality when I always regret my purchase. Reading your comment makes me things that's it doesn't matter, sometimes we have to go around to find out what we actually love.
Wait till you get your hands on those RF lenses. The 50, 85 and those zooms.
The 35 is unrated. Especially at it's price-point. Beautiful little lens.
Ravencroft the RF 50mm f1.2 L is like no other 🙌🏻. I thought the RF 35mm f1.8 was good, the RF 50 is the best lens ever!!!!
I got my Canon EOS R yesterday... I have older cameras of every brand (olympus, pentax, panasonic, canon, nikon), and I already love my EOS R!
Thank you for your video. I just subscribed. Recently I switched from Fuji X-T3 to Canon EOS R and I am not looking back. Fuji was great but I find the EOS R, not just a professional gear but really fun to shoot with. The images I get out of this camera are phenomenal.
I am also running a Pocket 4K and EOS R setup and love both so much. Came from an a7iii!
Got a pocket and an a7iii and im having a hard time matching footage. Whats your experience with the pocket and eos r?
Welcome to the EOS R family! Love that camera and I think you will really enjoy using it. Great video.
I bought the R the day it was released I knew the moment canon went mirrorless I was going that route.... I’ve shot with every companies mirrorless system but nikons but I always went back to canon now I don’t have to leave any more love my R
Hello I switched to EOS R from 5dmark3. At the beggining I was not really impressed, until I got the RF lenses - 24-105f4. Then my jaw went of the floor when I saw the sharpness. This is really a different galaxy comparing old 5dm3. Initially I planned to leave all my old lenses used with 5dmark3 and use adaptor, but after what I saw I am putting all of them on sale in order to purchase only new RF lenses. EOS R combined with those razor sharp lenses they produced is a total 5dmark killer. The old photos are not even close to this what I am doing with eos R now. My target RF lenses now would be the 50-200 , 24-105 and 85. Before buying the 85 I have to wait to sell a house :) I know it sounds crazy but I have a small house after my mother which will be sold in next weeks, and I decided to wait with the purchase until the house is sold :))))
The thing that really gets me with the Canon cameras is the image sensors. If I lift the shadows even just one stop the image starts to fall apart. With almost every other camera brand you can lift the shadows or exposure sometimes 6 or 7 stops without seeing any additional noise... It's absolutely crazy and so many people don't know about this. When in any high contrast lighting situation with a Canon you are screwed because if you under expose to preserve the highlights, there is no bringing it back up in post without a ridiculous amount of noise and colour shift. The Eos R would be comparable to the a7iii if Canon fixed the ISO in-variance on their sensors, removed the 1.8x Crop, and AT LEAST allowed auto focus with their 720p Slow Motion... Like jeez Canon what are you doing! Stop crippling your cameras... It's the photographer and not the camera that get the results. It's great that you as the photographer can make great use of this camera. This is the newer camera... Sony will be announcing 4 new bodies shortly. I hope Canon's pro body mirrorless will have some real specs to offer.
I’ve been thinking about the portability factor of the EOS R rather then lugging the 5dsr everywhere.
Yep. I lug a 5ds and a 1dx markii around 5 days a week....free workout though!
Got the RP. Definitely not the video workhorse the R is, but I have come to love it as well. Canon cameras piss me off but if you just use them they’re great cameras.
Bro
U said everything I was feeling
I used my Eos-R recently on a vlog I shot up in the mountains. Having used the GH5 previously, I found the R to be so nice to use with the autofocus and image. If this camera had 4k 60fps and some other bells and whistles the competitors have, it'd be the camera everyone wants. Instead all people do is whinge about it's negative points. I tried it with the Atomos Inferno with 4k output into ProRes and it looks fantastic.
Can't go wrong with the R. That dual auto focus is solid 👌
Victorfilm dual auto focus doesn’t work on LR tho, only Canons software.
First time viewer here. It was a bit hard to focus on your content because I was exerting too much energy being horrified at your uncapped cameras, lol.
Had to keep rewinding to reprise what you said. :-O
True. I just have been a strong anti-dust proponent, even with my film cameras. Why have to clean something if you can avoid it by keeping them capped or lensed.
Just a personal foible of mine, lol.
I have the EOS R and loving it very much! Great video!
I've rented the EOS R twice now and... while there are problems with the EVF update speed with tracking... it is an insanely well thought-out camera. I wish it were as easy to use as the 5DMKIV, but in the mirrorless world it is insane.
I switched from Canon to Sony last year, a few month before the EOS r was released. If i had known that a Canon system camera will be announced, I probably would have brought the eos r instrad. But now I Love the Sony, i agree that it has a lot of isues. But i am very happy with it. its cool that we have So Many options nowadays
Sony is great! Still use them a lot at work.
I guess this decision only makes sense because you already have EF glass you didn't want to switch away from.
The greatest advantage you're getting here is the use of your lenses with full compatibility.
I personally can't switch from the A7III to the EOS R. Lots of client work requires that I have dual SD card slots, I can't have a memory card crap out on me and ruining an entire shoot.
However, I do get the appeal of using one set of lenses as well, it's very convenient.
I haven’t had a memory card fail on me yet plus you can shoot raw and shoot jpeg directly to your phone or tablet
@@highstyleproductions5112 I understand what you're saying but it's still a workaround, which doesn't work for video. I haven't had a card fail on me as well, but it only takes for it to happen one time to not be able to deliver and disappoint your client.
Gerardo Molina I get it I guess my mind was set at ease speaking to the people at my local camera shop they said they never seen a card fail but many card slots.... just gotta pray everything works lol
@@highstyleproductions5112 Hopefully the firmware updates have helped with stability too. I remember when the EOS R was first unveiled, Tony Northup had a card corrupted by the EOS R. He pretty much lost all the shots he took when reviewing the camera at Canon's event. If I had the EOS R for video at an event, I'd use an external recorder like the Ninja V. SSDs are much more reliable than SD cards. Plus you get the extra boost in image quality =)
Gerardo Molina I stopped listening to Tony I don’t trust his reviews much anymore... Kai is my go to he seems to give every camera a fair chance and a honest review... I’ve had no problem with mine from day 1 not even an error code I might have just gotten lucky though that happens lol... That’s good to know about the ssd I didn’t know that at all... I’m mainly a photography guy I’m starting to get into video though...... I’m thinking about buying a different camera just for that but I love the results from the R
Sony is like Android and all the great phones - you get something really good but you have to customize it the way you need - and Canon is like Apple - you take it, use it and it looks good right of the box and it is reliable
just got the EOS R yesterday :D
how do you like it so far? im waiting on mine to come in
I absolutely love my EOS R. I wouldn't use anything else. Just small thoughtful touches that make usability a joy. The fact that the shutters close when you remove the lens. And of course - the images out of this camera are absolutely stunning. You made a good choice!
This is a great video. I’m a Sony user. Prior Canon user haha but I still really enjoyed this and understand where you are coming from. That built in ND in the EOS R is a really dope feature. Love that.
tho works only with adapted lenses. for native glass still have to buy extra.
Chris Wheelington It’s not a built in feature. It’s a $500 EF lens adapter.
Ryan Nanca yeah I’m aware. it’s actually $400 and well worth it in my opinion. I’d rather spend that and adapt any EF glass to it without having screw a filter off and on
Chris Wheelington I get it, the convenience is pretty awesome. The only drawback (aside from the price) is if you don’t need the ND filter in there, there’s a huge hole in the side of your adapter. So you either gotta cover it with gaffers tape or buy one of the other expensive drop in filters to take its place.
It’s a bit expensive IMO, especially for not also having a control ring.
Ryan Nanca yeah the clear filter is another $100 but the Polar Pro PM ND Filter set is is pretty much the same price lol so it all’s all the same. Just depends on your workflow and what you want you know?
Been here since your Pencil by Fifty Three review back in the day, still love your amazing content!
It's no 120fps that killed it for me. Everything.else I like about the R.
Think about what 120fps is really useful for. It’s eye candy with no real storytelling element. It’s used as a stylistic element and not helping a story move forward. I see it on TH-cam as a style crutch.
Dude you could use 1080 60 and slow it in post. No body can tell the difference tbh
@@ZaaM1 I'd have to go 50fps as I'm PAL with 25fps timeline.
Reliability and customer service is better on Canon as i experienced it.
I couldn’t be happier with my R. I was going to wait for the pro version but it packs quite a punch and seeing that I’ve been on 1DX and 5D cameras, I need to start to reprogram my mind on the new system. Even though I jumped right in and had little to no issues. The menu system and custom functions are so good. It’s like a mini Mark IV.
Canon is definitely a great company for cameras and their color grading is incredible too
The best
One mistake many Sony users make is adapting Canon glass to e-mount and expecting auto focus to perform as intended. I’ve heard a lot of people complain about autofocus capabilities of Sony cameras and then when I ask what glass they are using, find out they are using canon. The autofocus speed and reliability of Sony on Sony is unreal. I seriously considered the EOS R but after testing out the cameras auto focus I couldn’t move that direction. I also do shoot high action sport photography so take my opinion with a grain of salt. When canon drops a mirror less that shoots 10 FPS burst with reliable fast intelligent autofocus I’ll sell all my Sony equipment and come back to the Canon ecosystem.
Good video. First video of yours I’ve watched and I like what I heard / seen. I just bought the Eos R myself. I also have the RP which I plan on selling but they’re both amazing cameras. The image quality alone is cherry 🍒! Especially after post.
Should have gotten the Nikon Z6, soon 12 bit raw, no crop video, easy menu, 120 fps.
Your the first person with a similar experience to mine with Sony. I'm always fighting it in post.. I don't want to spend the rest of my life behind a computer screen so I have been looking at other options, apprecaite the video.
Appropriate that this follows your gear video 😉.
Seriously tho, congrats. I shoot on an a7iii and love it, but if you can live with the crop and prefer the colors I totally get your choice. Keep creating!
Not everyone buys cameras to shoot video. Not to mention you just put on the 10-18mm Canon lens & your crop factor is gone.
This response is far too polite and sensible. Please remember that this is the comments section. You suck.
@@st0n3ymontana same for Nikon dslrs. Now 10-20mm dx lens is available in $300 range, so we can stop worrying about crop factor and just go out and shoot. If we aren't much concerned about more bokeh and less noise, APSC sensor is more than enough.
Only some are smart enough to get beyond the specs and feel the usability of the Eos R system, well done.
I have the these two cameras and it’s true they’re a great duo ! Love them both you have a new subscriber !
EOS R is a great camera, especially after the last 1.4 firmware update. Good choice.
I used to try to use canon glass on my Sony and didn’t like the experience. Getting Sony native glass cleared all that up for me. I prefer Sony’s more accurate colors to canons magenta shifted ones. I can always make it look like that in post or not.
The EOSR is a great, all-around camera. It is not about the specs, it is the usability that shines on the EOS R.
That's why multiple companies and competitions exist. Every product must at least suit a person more than the other.
As a Canon+Nikon to sony user i was having the colour issue for photos initially but was able to rectify it with picture profile Light and values +1 0 +1 to get canon colours...also was able to get nikon colours with deep pictr profile and some tweeks inside the value...
Love my EOS R! Great video!!
I am doing just as you did now🙂 the color is impossible to recover without damaging the picture
So why didn't you go to a Fujifilm X-T3? Has better focus, better video, is weather sealed, cheaper, really sharp lenses, can get adapters for other manufactures glass.
It seems he is more of a video shooter and seems a bit lazy or the little things drive him crazy . He will sacrifice quality for ease of use . If he thinks the EOSR is a better photography camera than the Sony cameras he named in his video it is obvious he is just interested in posting on social media because if he was pushing his photography to the limits he would see a big difference in the image quality of a Canon compared to a A7R3 . Even a 5 year old Nikon D810 is a much better photography camera than anything Canon makes .
we really do not care "why you are switching.." but to tell you the truth you really not a photographer that is why you are "switching..." You are a Utube personally that wants to build a base of followers to make easy money.
There is nothing wrong with making money, good luck with that.
Thanks for watching!
I've used a R briefly and really liked it - but occasionally I will need 120fps - I wish someone would compare the actual quality of its 120 with say the A73 or Z6.
Thank you for this excellent video. I am a longtime Canon owner. But lately I have become disillusioned with Canon's newer mid-range cameras. I want to begin making videos but the Canon cameras seems to be behind the other cameras when it comes to video. I have been seriously considering going over to Sony. However, I do have a considerable investment in Canon lenses. Two things I really like about Canon is the articulating screen and the menu system. Your video is very helpful. I will be renting a Canon R over the Thanksgiving weekend to try it out. Good job.
I switched over from Sony (a6500) to Canon (6D Mark II) about a year ago and haven’t looked back ... it’s been a great camera 😁!
It’s such a great camera 👍
I am a Canon and a Sony user, I have both for photography, and to be honest if you put a photo side to side you cannot identify which one is for Sony or Canon. But what I really hate about Canon and is only for safe reasons, is because the R system doesn’t have dual card slots and the dynamic range is not that great like Sony. As a pro you need dual cards for any back up.
Why ddnt you try a Nikon Z6?!!!!!
I want a mirrorless canon but this is their first one, isnt it?
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How long till the 2nd one, at least.
Great review! I have a 5D MK2, and I'm looking to replace it with this one. I appreciate your insight!
Excellent review Matt! can't wait to get my R quite like the idea of getting some Sigma Art lenses, a used 18-35 1.8 and the 35 1.4 to go with my canon glass
I bought EOS R and I am lovin it.
I couldn't imagine giving up the better human and animal eye af, better sports tracking, much faster FPS of 8 FPS with tracking vs 3.5 FPS, low light performance, shadow and highlight recovery from the dual gain sensor design and IBIS of the sony so you can shoot hand held much more than you can with the Canon. @Matt Gonzalez What profile and editing software were you making your decisions of better color on? I've not experienced skin tones that were off or difficult to work with? The only current advantages the Canon EOS R system has is a shutter curtain that closes when the lens is off so less dust if you are not careful, 1.2 lenses (albeit much bigger and heavier and more expensive)IF you need them for even blurrier backgrounds, but because the current EOS R sensor is inferior in light gathering and resolution they actually resolve less detail than an A7R III or IV with even a standard 24-105 lens. The canon EOS R does have better low light AF in very dim conditions. If you shoot jpeg in controlled lighting or only do very minor tweaks in raw I could see the EOS R being ok especially if you have Canon glass but not if you have the option to start fresh and go Sony. otherwise the EOS R feels like a very slow dated camera that feels very limited when you go to import the images into the RAW editor and even post firmware last month the eye AF was laggy and still missed compared to the Sony.
To each their own Matt- for a lot of things u mention, I agree with what u are saying, and I’m glad u found a system that work for u! But for me, there’s still just so many things that canon cripples with their cameras that make the EOS R such a difficult camera to choose for it’s price: no dual card slots, no 4K without a massive crop, and no USB C charging without a proprietary cable.
It charges without the proprietary charger. You just need something with power delivery, currently using Anker charger and I use aps-c lenses to address the crop. Coming 70d I have a few sitting around.
Question seeing that you also use BMPCC do you notice a big difference since the EOS R only shoots 8bit? How does that high bit rate on the EOS R help? Seems like the only thing it has over the Fuji is that it is Full Frame.
Love the review man thanks
Been a Canon shooter for many years. It's the only brand I will use. Very satisfied.
For stills, is there any reason why a given RAW processing application would produce wildly different colors between different cameras? I.e - it was my understanding that the raw software has profiles for each camera, which should in theory make all cameras look nearly the same. If not - why?
Great video! I’m seriously contemplating getting this. Currently shooting with an SL2 and I’m not over the moon about it.