How Good Is It? | Donner Arena 2000
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ม.ค. 2023
- We are looking at the Donner Arena 200 today which is an FX processor, and amp modeler. The question is how good is it? In my own experiences with amp modelers I've been disappointed, but I was truly blown away at the Donner Arena 2000. All of the different amps sound very different from one another, and they don't sound bad at all. Though I will say the IRs on the Donner Arena 2000 were not my favorite. I would probably choose a 3rd party IR instead, but even with the IRs on the Arena 2000 I can still get a great metal tone!
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Got one today from my wife as a early birthday present. Been using my sons. I love it, no more heavy lifting at gigs.
Thank you for reviewing/demoing this with metal tones!
Absolutely! I'm glad I can demonstrate the metal tones on this guy for you! 😁
You nailed it. I have owned many units and the Noise gate has never impressed me. I now own a dirt cheap Donner Noise Killer pedal and it is gold.
Great video, great playing!! It is kind of amazing to me how many things the arena2000 does and does well. For the value, its insane.
I think if it had a popular name stamped on it people would be buying it up. Love mine.
Hey thank you so much for enjoying my video! This thing has been awesome so far. I hope they fix their software so I can load my own IRs but the built in tones are great. Glad you're enjoying yours too! 😁
You pretty much have the best video on this unit. I thought it didn't sound like anything special from watching a few other vids, but this vid definitely piqued my interest. I just got a Valeton gp-200 delivered like 10 minutes ago though, so it might have to wait for a while haha.
Hey, thank you so much for watching and enjoying! 😁
I had a pretty good experience getting a good tone out of this processor. And I'm glad it sounded good to you as well.
And thats alright my friend enjoy the new piece of gear! The Arena will be waiting for ya.
Keep rocking on! 😎
Thank you. Good job...
My old digitech rp150 just died looking to upgrade. Thanks for the review 😅
Oh no!! Haha well I'm glad I could do this review for you! Thank you so much for watching! 😁
13:42 that was some Alpha Wolf vibe 🔥🔥
Like you, i haven't touched a multieffects pedal since 2000. They sounded horrible then, really turned me away. But now I'm really looking into trying one out again.
Great video
Yeah they weren't the best. That's for sure haha.
I'm so glad to see the processors doing alot better. I really enjoyed the Arena 2000. The Headrush processor pedals seem to be doing really well also!
Thank you so much for watching!! 😁
Can the 3 patches be moved between the banks? So for example, you can have a clean dirty and lead tone in the same bank?
Which sounds better? This device or Hotone Ampero Mini?
I have one as a beginner its great fun i did mess up a preset did a system reset all the wording changed on the presets durrrr lol
but still works i did get in touch with donner not much help really but considering i didnt buy it direct off them i was surprised they helped at all .
I'm so glad ypu enjoy yours as well! I think it's a great processor. So much better than what older processors used to be.
And yeah when I contacted support about their software for this pedal I didn't get very much help either. But it still works great!
Thank you so much for watching!! 😁
I own one .Not my go to but it's a great unit. You gotta get into the sounds and create your own tones. Some of the presets are good but mess around and get your own sounds.
Haha hey that was me! Appreciate ya bud. I had that same digitech when I was like 13 and even then it sounded bad lol. Apple rock = orange rockerverb. Did Donner send this to you? They've been sending them out to a bunch of TH-camrs recently.
Absolutely dude! I do everything I can to make special requests happen 😁.
What a small world that you had the same one haha. Amp modelers have come a really long way forsure.
And ah yes, and orange amp that makes sense. Apple, and Orange haha thank you!
@@HighImpaktAudio I was 13, 21 years ago . Idk if there were many other options back then haha. This thing don't sound too bad considering it's what $270? I'm thinking probably going HX stomp. It's tried n true and I know it sounds good. Modelers have come a LONG way though. It's amazing how good these cheap units are sounding.
Absolutely man! The HX Stomp is definitely a great way to go. 😁
is this the sound straight from the pedal with usb? those distortions sound freakin nasty if thats just the amp and cab from the device
I was running everything on the Arena 2000. Amp, cab, and everything else and using the balanced XLR out to my interface. I really enjoyed checking this piece of gear out!
Thank you so much for watching! 😁
How are the less gainy sounds?
Honestly I had pretty good luck with the clean and crunch tones. You have a whole catalog of different amps, and Cab IRs which will give you plenty of options.
I always like putting a compressor on my cleans with a nice reverb and I'm set.
Hopefully this helps. Thank you so much for watching! 😁
donner arena 2000 or nux mg 30?someone answer me please
Same question
Does it have Whammy effect? I can't find it😢
I don't believe it has a whammy effect. I will double check though and get back to you! 😁
I was curious as to the pick dynamics?? Volume roll-off? I play blues with usually single pickup guitars and those kind of things mean a lot to my playing. It is rare for me to use my tube amps up to volumes for practice and recording levels. Stay well and thanks for the video!!
Hello! And thank you so much for watching!
As far as pick dynamics go this pedal does actually pretty good. When I pick harder it reacts how I'd expect, and same for when I pick softer.
When you talk about the volume roll off are you referring to the expression pedal that is built into the Donner? If so the pedal seems pretty smooth to me. I can back off the pedal, and fade in the amp in the Donner.
One thing to also take into mind is that they've had some issues with their software for this pedal which allows you to load in your own IRs. Which is a huge bummer. So if you're looking to do that I wanted to give you a quick warning, but everything else seems to work great for me.
I hope this helps! I had a great time with this FX processing pedal.
@@HighImpaktAudio
Hey thank you so much for the info!! Yeah you hit the pickup attack question right on. I use soft and dig in dynamics in much of my playing, so your answer really helps.
Bummer on the IR issue. I was kinda hoping that worked well.
By volume roll off I meant responding to volume knob on guitar. Sorry, I wasn't very clear on that. :)
Again thanks so much for your response!! 👍
@matthewmanes1 not a problem! With the volume roll off I haven't had any issues.
The only this is the software issue.
Really glad I could help!
Thank you again 😄
Ive been trying to make a good tone for a couple weeks but i have had no luck, all of my tones just sound bad. Can you help me out?
I can absolutely help out as best I can!
If you're looking for a great high gain tones I recommend the 5150 III amp I forget the exact name that they have for it, but it will be a variation of "5150 III"
I usually start my eq around twelve o'clock and make slight adjustments to taste.
Most likely I'll end up with the treble around 1 o'clock, the bass around 11 o'clock and the mids somewhere around 12 o'clock depending on how much mids you want.
Then I always recommend putting a boost in front of the amp sim like a tubescreamer type Overdrive. I'll usually put the tone, and level all the way up with the gain down all the way. If it's too much distortion you can always back off the gain on the amp, or dial back the tone on the tubescreamer boost to like 12 o'clock.
Also with as much gain as we have here make sure to activate a noise gate as well to cut down on the noise from the gain.
And final for the high gain tone the Cab IR is super important for your tone. It will have the biggest impact. I always like a Mesa 4 x 12 IR it'll have the vintage 30 drivers most likely which I'm sure you know is kinda the industry standard.
If you are running the arena through a cabinet that you own you won't need an IR. Doubling cabinet sounds will give you some weird sounds haha. So if you are using an actual cabinet that you own I'd turn off the cab IR section of the arena 2000.
Clean tones are pretty straight forward. A good compressor, and reverb will always help smooth out the tone while giving you space to breath in between notes. And I typically leave my treble around 11 o'clock, mids around 11 as well, and bass around 1 o'clock.
I really hope this helps! I was definitely able to get some pretty sweet tones out of this processor that I enjoyed. I hope your able to find a great tone for yourself.
@HighImpaktAudio I appreciate your help! Bit unfortunately I'm still unable to make the tone I want. The only combos I've been able to get are very shitty chugs and terrible sounding highs
@user-ow2cm8lo4b I'm sorry to hear that my friend! No gear is a one size fits all unfortunately. You can look into some other processors. Headrush has some really cool ones that have been coming out. And if you're sticking to the budget side, I've heard Flamma makes some decent stuff as well!
How did you get one that works? Mine never worked. Still can't get ahold of donner.
Really? I'm sorry to hear that dude! Keep trying to get a hold of them.
I just ordered mine from their website, and it came with no issues.
But their control software is having major issues. I hope they get it together.
@@HighImpaktAudio Yeah their software sucks, they claim the newer version of the software works, but 3 different PCs no luck. Returning and getting something else.
@@jjbrog79 sorry to hear about that! I don't know why they haven't been able to fix it. You might be able to check out the FX processor from Flamma. They have one like the arena 2000
Arena 2000 or the flammer 200 wich best for distortion
Hey thank you so much for watching!
Unfortunately I haven't played on the Flamma 200 but from looking at it it seems actually really really close to the Donner 2000.
The main differences I saw were more feature wise being there are 200 preset slots on the Flamma, and 150 on the Donner.
Also there are 30 Cab Sims in the flamma, and 50 in the Donner with 50 extra to load your own IRs.
I couldn't find if you can upload your own IRs to the Flamma, but I assume you can because it has a USB connection on the back.
The Flamma also has 58 amp models, and the Donner has 80.
Other than that I'd say they are really really close to eachother. The Donner comes in at almost $100 bucks less so that's a big difference. I also really like the touch screen on the Flamma better than the Donner I think its laid out better.
If you do get the Donner I do want to warn you that if you want to upload your own IRs the software to do that is having some issues. Hopefully they get it fixed. It's not allowing anyone to do anything on it. So that's another factor to keep in mind.
Between both the Flamma, and Donner I'm not a huge fan of the Cab Sims already loaded on them. So I'd prefer using a 3rd party IR that has more warmth, and body to it.
They both have awesome amps! And are really close. Hopefully this helps you make your decision. Im happy with the Donner other than the software issue.
Thank you!
How to import my own IR on Donner??? Would you help me?
Great question! The only way to do import IRs at the moment is through the Donner control software that you can find on their website. Unfortunately they seem to be having some issues with their software, and isn't letting anyone do anything. So the next best way is if you have a studio setup when your Arena 2000 is going into your DAW turn off the cab on the actual Arena 2000. And use a 3rd party plugin like Two Notes Wall Of Sound, or ML Sound Lab has a free plugin called MIKKO. And these will load the IRs for you.
Thank you so much for watching! 😁
@@HighImpaktAudio oh, thanks Bro!
@alissonzakka not a problem! Sorry I couldn't help more. I really hope they fix the control software soon 😅
@@HighImpaktAudio me too, I received My donner yesterday... 😭
Can you use this as audio interface?.. How about the latency?
Hello, and thank you so much for watching!
As far as I've found you cannot use this as an audio interface, but you can go direct into an interface with this unit.
And for the latency I haven't had any issues with latency.
I hope this helps! 😁
@@HighImpaktAudio thank you for your response, i mean if you plug this into PC, can you use this to record track on DAW?
@joeysevilla8758 not a problem!
You can record into your DAW using the Direct Out on the back and going into a separate audio interface. That's the main way that I see.
That's how I did all of the sounds you hear in this video
@@HighImpaktAudio cannot use as audio interface using USB cable direct to PC then openong a DAW and record?.. Kinda confuse I'm sorry..
@joeysevilla8758 not a problem man!
So I looked further into this, and it looks like it can be used as an interface. Like you said just use the USB connection to the computer, and make sure ypur DAW has the correct interface selected.
Though if you also want to record vocals as well I probably recommend getting a cheaper interface that can do 48V phantom power like a 2i2 from focusrite.
Other than that the main use I see people using the USB for is to use the Donner software for loading IRs and such.
Thank you, I hope this helped!
apple rock = orange?
yup
The only way to really Demo something is having kick ass players.also who no how to program good sounds. But hay good video
I definitely don't claim to be a kick ass player, but I can hold my own forsure. And the biggest thing I look for is that if someone can find a sound that really makes them happy. Then that's a win in my book. Thank you for watching! 😁
The apple is 🍊
apple/orange?
Yeah I forget which model but yeah Orange haha I like their different plays on the amp names 😆
Apple rock?? Orange?
Yes as far as I know that is correct
These people are totally dishonest people.they sell what ever they can sell
Sorry you feel that way. You can think whatever you want, but in my videos I don't post process any of the sounds on my pieces of gear trying to show you what they can do. And if I process them a bit ill talk about it in my videos.
Also if there is something I'm not really liking I'll talk about that as well. Im not being paid by Donner, or really anyone in fact to show you these products. I bought this pedal with my own money that I work for in-between the youtube stuff.
There's a lot of cool pieces of gear out there. None of them are one size fits all. You just gotta find which ones work with your playing style, and feel.
Thank you for watching!
Cannot here nothing. Just a big noise
How do you hook it up, front of amp or in the power amp in on the back?
well since its a amp sim you can just run it straight to the PA
@@madeinjei ok great thank you very much for your help.
Yeah you can go to front of house no problem with the XLR.
Though if you really want to use your amp. There's an unbalanced output in the back that I'd use the left side which is mono. And either go to the front of the amp, or through the return in your effects loop to bypass the preamp. Also before you do that turn off the cab IR on the Arena 2000.
Thank you for watching!!