New Triumph T100 - 1st Ride & Review Exclusive
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ต.ค. 2024
- Tally Bally Ho!
Here for your delectation, is my 1st ride and review of the new 900cc liquid cooled Triumph T100 which is based on the Street Twin 900 but in a T120 frame.
I hope you enjoy.
Please feel free to ask questions in the comments below as no doubt I have missed out things, got things a little awry, or just not given you satisfactory answers.
I was very lucky to be able to ride this before it is available to others to ride, so I hope that this is interesting to watch.
Thank you once again for watching!
Tally Bally Ho!
P.S. Thanks again to Herts Triumph for allowing me this opportunity.
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Ok, so today was the day: I rode a bonnie. My heart was set on the T120 over the T100 because of it's better brakes, those lovely fake carbs (so much better than the fake airfilter covers on the T100), the heated grips....just love it.
I went over to the dealership on my BMW F650GS. A 15 years old girl which is not the best for highway driving but an awful lot of fun everywhere else.
I took place on the T120. Nice comfy seating position. Buttery smooth gears, super stable ride, perhaps a bit heavy yet very easy to flick around once moving. But after half an hour of riding it, I was underwhelmed because, strange enough, I think it is simply too powerfull. I'd say that al least 60% of the power is absolutely and utterly useless in realistic daily driving. And there's no fun having it at your disposal either because you can basically do everything you need to do in the first two gears....! As soon as you open her up, you're speeding. Instantly. I love driving on 60 - 80km/h roads, wich I would do in 3rd to have nice and low exhaust notes. But open her up for a second and you're over a 100 already. Useless. Can't even enjoy that sound of the pipes for more than half a second.
Besides, I found the throttle to be very snappy (on/of feeling) that, combined with the tall first gear, driving through a 30km/h zone in town is pure horror. In first gear, which is very aggressive, you'd go over a bump, move your wrist a tiiiiiny bit because of the bump and off you go! So I put it in 2nd gear (where I think any bike should be when not driving away from a stand still). But 1st is so tall that driving so slow in 2nd basically means letting it idle without any throttle for not to go too fast again, which she doesn't like and starts stuttering a bit. So you add a liiiiiiitle bit of throttle, which is so freakin instantaneous, that you're speeding again. Hated it. Eventually I found myself slipping the clutch for a fair bit just to smoothen the ride. And I was in freaking rain mode!
This might have been me; maybe I'm simply a shit driver and not used to the ride-by-wire throttle respons (which, indeed, I'm not). I come from a 650cc single cil engine which has a completely different feel (yet often referred to as on/of throttle respons, ironically...). But pretty much in any given gear on the t120, you'll use the tiniest bit of the throttle because otherwise you're speeding. And because of that, you're only a fraction away from that on/of feeling.
Now, to get to your and @TheMissendenFlyer 's queston $1,000,000 question: T120 or T100?
I haven't ridden the T100 yet but I'm pretty sure that it is is the engine to go with. Yes, you'll loose the twin discs. The center stand. The heated grips. The handrail and the cool carbs. Yes, you'll have the 'baby bonnie' and thus not the 'manly 1200'. But I don't think I'll give a rats ass. Because when I sat down on my beaten-up 2002 F650GS (her name is Melissa, fyi), I remembered how much more fun it is to actually be able to use the power at your disposal sometimes. To pull her through a couple of gears, throw her into a corner and letting her rawr when you drag yourself out of that corner again. Hearing the engine work and give that throttle something to live for. Because on the T120, unless you're on the highway or love driving illegal speeds, all you can do is nibble at it, and perhaps brag about the potential power of your bike without ever, yes ever, using it.
I'll book myself a test drive on the T100 and see if I'm right.
What an immensely excellent read... You feel about the t120, the way that I feel about much faster sports bikes... 1st gear and you are doing 75mph, which is why I like these 'slower' bikes... A lot of fun but you can use 4th gear from 40mph and enjoy the surge...
Thanks again for your opinions, extremely well articulated and will certainly help other riders / watchers...
Good luck in your hunt!
TBH!
Thnx and a TBH to you ;-)
Very nice comment. I’m looking forward to hearing your opinion after you have ridden the T12o
You are absolutely right. I had the exact same feeling on the T120. Way too much power to enjoy in town and silly speeds in an instant without enjoying getting there. I rode the street twin, loved the handling but wanted the T120 looks. As it turned out, almost two years later, bought myself a T100 black (matt) and am looooving it. The Captain's emotions are real. Everything is on point. Especially the throttle is way more manageable. The looks, the feel, the rumble, the fun, it is all there. One of the best decisions of my life getting this bike, as it makes your heart happy. Hope you got the chance to ride one of those beauties. Ride safe, Chris
Get a Harley.
Mine is so slow, I can thrash it constantly without the possibility of a speeding ticket.
Down side ..it weighs as much as a small car
Yo Cap. I took the plunge and bought the new T100 about a month ago, in part based on this video and others. I couldn't be happier, it's my dream bike and with modern engineering. In reference to my previous comment, the foot positioning is much more comfortable than the Street Twin. Basically, the thing is perfect for what I want. Thanks for helping make the decision really easy for me.
Great to hear it! :-) Glad to have helped...
It's a lovely bike, and well done for not being drawn in on the heavier but more powerful T120... The T100 is such a good bike and a lot of power snobs overlook it...
Thanks for watching and for your comment. Nice to hear some good news! :-)
TBH!
What u think of the breaking on the t100? They say they not good
@@granto6738 It's only the front brake that could use more power. There's plenty of compatible upgrades and if you only do the front, it's relatively easy to do yourself. Run the stock ones in a bit to get a feel for them before making a decision to replace. Tbh I haven't done it yet, there's lots of other parts of the bike (aesthetic mostly) that I wanted to spend money on before a brake upgrade.
Don't stop the way you do your reviews. If people don't like it, let them turn it off. Thoroughly enjoy,
Thank you very much Bryan! That's kind of the way I thought it... Why complain when you can just stop watching! :-)
THank you for watching!
Tally Bally Ho!
Good advice. I did.
Thank you for posting this, Captain! All the info looking for. It's a beautiful bike but, damn your eyes now I'm even more torn between a new T100 or a new old T100! Love your reviews- keep up the good work and continue to be safe on the roads ~
Thank you for watching John and for taking the time to comment. :-)
Complete, technical and funny review !! I have a black T100 '17 and love it ! Works quite well in Milan parked outside models' bars = ))
I'm sure that it does! :-)
Thank you for watching! :-)
Very good Catptan. Most enjoyable as always. Latter part was most informative. But was enjoyable right through. Thanx from another Triumph lover.
You're welcome Phil! Thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment...
Timeless looks. I imagine non bikers would think it was 1950s. Not my bag but I can see the appeal.
The performance won't make anyone scream but to enjoy a leisurely ride absolutely.
The Thruxton with its performance and stopping power must be a hoot.
Cheers.
Absolutely! :-)
I enjoyed both the T 100 and the T1 20 but it was the horse power that won me over. Thanks again!
You're welcome... Some prefer the lightness of the T100 v power...
Glad you're happy and thank you for watching and taking the time to comment! :-)
Liked the look of this Motorcycle as soon as I set eyes on it...the colour scheme, classic looks and that general "Proud to be British" feeling you get when you stare at it.
Totally agree with what you were getting at though...
Would I want one as an only Motorcycle? No.
Would I want one for a sunny day out in the Peak District to show off? Absolutely YES!!
Great video again Captain.
Absolutely! :-) It was fantastic on the lovely autumn day I rode it, but not for commuting in bad weather! I'd be worrying about those spokes too much, like I already do with my Thruxton! :-)
Captain Rambunctious Why worry about spokes in bad weather?
Entertaining as always...thanks for another top notch video. Love the blue and white colour scheme on this new T100, looks sensational.
It's gorgeous! :-) Perfect for this bike in my opinion!
THank you and thank you for watching.
TBH!
It was quite apparent that the more you rode this T100 the more you liked it. Your vids are quite entertaining. I like the scenery of the english country side and all the quaint little towns you travel through. Would like to visit the UK some day. Rent a T100/T120 and travel through the country side and visit a few pubs along the way.
A very very good idea... I'll show you around if you like... I'm sure that a few of use would like to show off our countryside, especially on a bike... :-)
Thank you for watching and for the comment!
The blue looks great in the flesh too. I really would prefer a T120 but this blue just seems so cheerful.
It's a lovely colour... But don't forget that Triumph like to bring out new colours after a year or so...
Thank you for watching! :-0
Great review. I will get a T100 wich is just what I need to have some fun and be happy. Thank you
Excellent Eric. It's all you need!
Thanks for the video Captain, Fantastic as usual man :-)
You're welcome! THank you for watching...
I don't like cruisers or rice rockets around town, so I just saw this model and I love it! The spokes, classic styling, and color. Will this be smooth doing 65 mph in 5th when I need to hop on the hiway? I want a light yet torquey bike!
Yes, absolutely fine... I was pootling along at 80mph with no issues.... I'd say it's perfect for what you are after...
Captain. Another t100 question. Picking mine up in June. Would getting a center stand affect its handling? I’m thinking its worth adding. Also, do you do your own maintenance on service intervals or do you recommend having triumph do it?
Personally I wouldn’t get one in case it drags when leaning over but they are very useful… if doing lots of miles or touring then much easier to put lube on the chain. Otherwise I’d just use a paddock stand…
Enjoyed your review immensely. I'm sold.
Excellent. Thank you for watching!
The Best 🛣🇧🇷
Thanks Captain! I appreciate your opinion. Keep up the great work!
You're welcome! Wilco sir!
The first bike I started touring on was a then new, 1969 Honda CL-175. Rode from Lansing, Michigan to Stratford, Ontario and from Lansing to Minneapolis, and a few times from Lansing to Chicago. "Cruising" at 60, 65, was somewhat straining the engine. and the seat felt like a 2x4 piece of lumber after 100 miles. We all start riding with a first bike and graduate to larger and more comfortable bikes over the years and as money permits. Right now, the ride is a 2012 Can Am Spyder RT-SE5. But there's always room in the garage for a Triumph Bonneville T120.
Yes, this would be fine for hours cruising at 75-80mph, so as a first bike it's very different... :-)
I look forward to you getting the T120 and asking me what bits you should get?! ;-)
how do you like this compared to the street twin? having ridden both, which would you prefer and why? are they both bikes you feel you could take on longer weekend rides?
Out of this and the street twin I would buy the T100 because it looks better in my opinion, but really that's all you can take from this... Although, spokes are harder to clean especially in the winter, so the street twin would be more impervious to corrosion as less bare metal...
I could easily take these on a long weekend, as I did with my thruxton R which is less practical... However, out of all the 900cc new bikes, I prefer the street scrambler. It's just so much more fun to ride, more direct and easier to control.. So if you like the looks of that, then go for the street scrambler instead...
Hope that this helps and thanks for the comment!
great review Captain, and another winner from Triumph
Thank you Vince! It helps that the bikes make it easy to review...
Thank you. Another great video Captain!
Thanks for the review!
I've been very pleased with my T120. Yes, you probably don't "need" the extra power over the T100, but it's always there, ready to be tapped, with no gas mileage penalty. The rider modes, center stand, heated grips, sixth gear, and low grab bar are nice to have, as well. I'd say they're worth the extra money.
Yes, all those 'extras' and standard accessories would sell it for most people, for the T120, but there's something about the character of this bike over the T120 which seems more fun... Like an eager puppy... Not sure... But excellent comment and well argued...
Thanks for watching!
Hey Cap, I think they put the point on the signal cancel, so u won't accidentally hit the opposite or even the same button to cancel. Basically to cancel without having to look at it. Thanks again Cap.
True, but the thruxton has a flattened one with angles either side which are more comfortable. I get your 'point' of course! :-)
@@CaptainRambunctious Ahhh, I see as well. They have different ways of making cancel push blind usable. Personally I do appreciate auto cancel. But guess its more costly. . My 2005 t100 is my first Triumph. So my lack of Triumph history is as new.
I always dig ur enthusiasm when u do ur reviews.
Happy, and safe travels.
@@peterford9369 thank you very much Peter! Yes, only the more expensive and extensively electric bikes have self cancelling like the tigers and trophys etc etc…
Thank you!
@@CaptainRambunctious 😂, Thanks for the 🕺. U r a pistol! Keep riding
My favourite is still the T120 Black in terms of looks, and eventually I'd like to get one, but have never riden a bike yet. Would you consider this a good beginner bike?
Captain R. The triumph dealership I’m dealing with has an ironstone 2020 blacked out t100 win vance&hines exhaust with 156 miles on it discounting it by $1700. Might have to jump on this over the street twin which is $900 more for 2022 model. Will test ride it next week. Quick thoughts on this oh captain?
At 75 - 80 MPH Is there any buzz or vibration In the handle bars, pegs or seat ?
I don't think so. If there had been, I'd have mentioned it in the video. There is a little vibration at that speed on the T120 and Thruxton, but again, I mentioned it at the time, so I will say that I don't think that there was...
Hope this helps.
Thank you for watching and for the comment!
The blue and white looks good. Enjoy your enthusiasm, can't wait till you review the bobber. Have my name on a green and silver one
Fantastic... I do like the Bobber... A few things I'd change, but will see how it rides. Should get on one by mid January apparently... :-)
Thank you for watching and for taking the time to comment...
TBH!
Loved the musical interlude in the selfie segment.
I have a 700 GS low that I plan I keeping until the 750 is released. I road and love the street scrambler but torn on the up pipe. I don't see myself going off road. I'm going to ride the T100 today. I also have a street triple. I'm 5'3 tall. I will be buying for leisure riding and that beautiful twin sound. What do you think?
Chuck Diego if you're not sure on the scrambler then the T100 is for you I'd have thought. It's lower as well but still a lot of fun!
Good luck!
So the $1,000,000 question is would you have this rather than a T120? Would like to have a go on one of these little beasties, I suspect my view may be the same as that I have for the Speed Triple v Street Triple (i.e. sometimes smaller/lighter is better)....personally I can live without riding modes on this type of bike....a bonus that you save a few quid over the T120 too! Thanks for posting as ever....TMF
You're most welcome TMF. It's a very nice little bike... Yes, this or the T120 or even the new Scrambler? Will see what that or the Street Cup are like when I get my hands on them!
Thank you for watching as ever!!
Awesome to meet you the other week finally as well! :-)
TBH!
@@CaptainRambunctious. Cap, you and the fellow Brit bike reviewers should do a shootout with your favorites. That'd make a good vid.
@@peterford9369 a very fine idea!!
In terms of weight and handling, would you say it is closer to the Twin or the T120?
Closer to the street twin in handling... The T120 is slightly more 'ponderous' but I use that word carefull as the T120 can hardly be described as ponderous itself... Just using it as a comparison... :-)
thanks for the excellent review captain! what your opinion about painting both fenders and side covers with that sweet Aegean blue color?
Andrianos Gkionis do it!!! Gorgeous!
@@CaptainRambunctious thank you Captain! will do!!!
Thanks captain.... As you say a good second bike if something for the weekend or A2 if you like the classics look..Along with the street twin these are great but I prefer spokes look to mag, even though I have mags myself but not for long.. good to see it on the dual carriage way.. did you say it had heated grips?
Certainly a lot to choose from maybe to many? It can get a little overwhelming in the bonnie range but I suppose when you break it down - Scrambler , Bonneville and Thruxton
Captain,
Love that blue & white Bonneville. It's perfect.
I like your style of reports.
I like the music you chose.
I heard from Red. She said she always values my comments.
I was talking back & forth, with an attractive Lady biker who lives in Paris. Of course, I told her about You + Red.
I'm going to have eye surgery, 12/11. I have cataracts.(+Parkinson's).
I guess I'm just getting a little bit OLD.
No more bikes for me. I can't even ride a bicycle !
(No balance.)
See ya.
Nice fun and energy filled review. Give me a T120 any day though! I think it would be very sensible to also have a sticker on the tank reminding riders to breathe whilst travelling........................! OMG the world has gone mad!!!! Regards, Jon.
Ha ha! Yes, breathing is surprisingly difficult these days... Maybe we've evolved to not know how to do it?? ;-)
Yes, the T120 is of course a better bike, but this is lighter, more nimble, and cheaper to insure and run, and also available to younger riders... Horses for courses! :-)
Thank you for watching and for the comment!
TBH!
Your reviews are very entertaining.
You’re welcome Mark! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment!
...positively delightful bike. I've always thought that John Bloor should have acquired the rights to the BSA and Norton badges too, once he'd made a few quid selling Triumphs, and produced similarly retro styled bikes using those old brands too !
Yes, tat would work... But I quite like the exclusivity of the Nortons. And they've kept true to the past... I prefer the modern Triumphs as they are less vibey and less likely to leak oil, but there is still something extremely evocative and romantic to me about the BSAs and Nortons...
Thank you for watching and for the excellent comment...
TBH!
Jolly good review Captain. Has this release made the older air cooled T100's more desirable or less do you think and has that influenced their resale value?
I can't see why I'd buy the older 865 over this, unless it were the Scrambler with baffle out Arrow...
The older ones are top heavy and a lot less versatile. Fun to ride and tinker with, but these seem to be of much better build quality...
Thanks for this. I really enjoyed your Street Twin video also. I tested it myself last year and thought "I'd buy this, but what I really want is a T100 with this new 900cc engine" because I love the pea shooter pipes, the chrome spoked wheels, and the knee pads. And they've done it! Question though, are the foot pegs further forward than the Street Twin or the same? I felt like they were too far back for my comfort on the ST and hope they're even a little bit more forward on the T100.
These are more forward on this but also a little lower so my knees weren't so high up. It's because this is the T120 frame, not the street twin frame, so everything is a little bigger... Houses my frame better... :-)
Should be perfect for you then!
Thank you for watching and for the comment! :-)
Hi Cap, so close to pulling the trigger on getting a T100. Can you remember if it had any death wobble if you take both hands off the bars? I have a tendency to ride no handed a lot when slowing down towards lights etc when no traffic is about. Had a Yam Bolt 950 cruiser, lovely bike but they would all wobble like crazy when riding no handed so sadly had to sell it.
Not advocating riding no handed, just something I like to do. So, does she wobble Cap?
I'd chime in with a "nope" there, no wobble with hands off the bars, no matter the speed really.
CR,
I am a new rider, but an older fellow. I am considering the T100 as a first bike. I was, at one time, leaning towards the street twin because it is lighter but everyone tells me the T100 is as easy to ride. I prefer the classic style of the 100 to the ST. I have taken all the safety classes and am ready to make that purchase.
Your thoughts since you have rode them both?
Gary Gordon if you prefer the looks of the T100 then that's the one to get. Not much difference at all in the bike excerpt it's a little longer than the Street Twin...
Hope this helps and thank you for watching!
Thanks.
Hey captain do you feel the t100 has enough power for a passenger on the highway?
ruben42655 yes it’s would but it wouldn’t have much instant push when over about 75mph with a passenger on. But you could rev it well and it would be more than manageable. I suppose it depends what you are used to, but it would do it fine, yes... after all, the specs aren’t bad!
Thanks cap for replying much appreciated and keep up the vids and dont tone down ur personality luv the excitement lol!
ruben42655 thank you Ruben! Have a good 2020!
Great review! Cheeky little bike! Ha...Ha.... Thanks for the comprehensive review. Like the way you enjoyed the ride.
Thank you Hans! Thank you for watching and for your kind words! :-)
Tally Bally Ho!
Loved the selfie section. They didn't cover that on my advanced riding course. A bit upsetting, I wil have to have a word.
Owen Radwell ah, it’s the super advanced section...
Hello captain well now you have really done it ,i liked the street twin but was partial to the bonneville as i remember them as a young rider so now what do i get the twin or the bonneville ? what was your top speed 100mph? aghhh do i go for the look or peg scraping ?
It should do 112mph...
Agghhh well the LEGAl top speed in the colonies is 60mph however .
I love watching the country side in your vids.
Thank you! I can't claim credit for the countryside... :-)
Excellent review old chap, keep em coming.
Thank you very much Rapha Rider! :-) Thank you for watching!
Nice review! Had to put my 2010 Triumph STR to bed for the winter here in Eastern Canada, but we have some nice back-roads around here that would be fun on that T100. Pity that people get so hung up on big horsepower when in fact 50-60hp and tons of torque are all you need for real-world riding. I once had a Suzuki VX800 that had around 55 hp to the rear wheel and there was never any shortage of power; it would easily pass a line of cars on the highway in top gear and it would top out at 115-120 mph. The only problem with my STR is keeping my driver's license cos it is so much fun to go fast on.
I know how you feel! That's why I got rid of my STR, but now have the Thruxton R so back to square one! ;-) It's so hard being legal... ;-)
Rambunctious a British "pheasant plucker" In a nut shell, me like! T100, Cheers
Ha ha! Thanks Derrick! ;-) And thank you for watching! :-)
Whats it like for blipping the throttle when you are putting it through its paces and going down through the box quickly, smooth engine braking? PS liked your Vid.
Very smooth and light. As I mentioned, the clutch is feather light and the gears snick into place beautifully and almost seamlessly... It was a little hesitant at first, but don't forget that it only had 7 miles on the clock at the start of the review. It was fine almost immediately though...
Thanks for watching and liking!
TBH!
Thanks Captain. Enjoyable watch as ever... I'll stick with my T120 and it's taller seat, oomph + 6th... BUT, the Memsahib should be passing her test early in the new year...*ponders* Could be two 'T's in my garage...
Now THAT would be a perfect garage (apart from no Thruxton R of course!) ;-)
Thank you for watching and for the comment! :-)
Captain another great video from you. Do not change your style of reviews. That's what makes your videos unique. This also goes to other reviewers. It's individuality.If not, every reviewers will look and sound the same. Now where's the fun in that. Anyway don't mind the haters, they're just love living a miserable life. Keep up the great vids sir.
Thank you for the kind words! Glad you liked it!
Thank you for watching as well. :-) Oh don't worry, I'm not changing any time soon... ;-)
Captain Rambunctious you're most welcome sir.As you always says..tally bally ho.
I have the same feeling about my MX5 Miata. I enjoy hearing and feeling it wind up to 7000 revs in two or three gears without being a public Hazzard. My SV 1000 red lines first grear at about 85 mph, a moment in 2rd and its 100 mph. Too fast for old guys like me on public streets. I think I'd find the T100 a great choice.
I would choose the Street Twin over the T100 bc I like cast wheels. However the T120 has cruise control for extended rides. The T120 wins!....👍😺
Same engine as the Street twin and scrambler as per 900cc...but the Street Twin and the Street Scrambler gives 64BHP the Bonnie Version only gives 54BHP....all gove 80nm of torque.
Got my brand new T100 1 week ago love it....love to know why the other 2 bikes with the 900cc engine both have 10BHP more than the T100 Bonnie version???
Figs from Triumphs own website.
Right, but check at what rpm is the max torque and horse power is achieved
They should invite this guy to call the F1 races. It would be a lot less droll than what you have now.
Anyhow, regarding Triumphs I had a 650 Tiger 5 speed back in the day. It was a great bike for a teenager ! A friend of mine recently bought a 1200 Triumph and really likes it. It would be fun to ride motorcycles again. This basic Triumph might prove to be the ticket. Too bad that I'm getting into old man territory and lots of things hurt now. I'm not keen on new toad hazards like SUV's with texting drivers, maniacs in big pickups and huge trucks, etc.
Thank you! Would love to commentate! 😂
Yea, this would be lighter and easier to ride than the 1200s and also easier to push around and ride slowly…
You’re completely right about the hazards these days! Really have to keep your eyes peeled!
Thanks for watching and for the comment!
The looks are way better then the Street Twin, no doubt. I'm still waiting to ride the T120 and of course the Bobber, for myself B-) Always in the market for another blat-around-town bike.
+Arizona RE you can't have too many Triumphs! 😉
Agreed!
Good review again ! I' ve yet a question: On the website of triumph the width of the handlebars of the t100 is given with 715 mm. But the t120 has 785 mm. This would be a huge difference, I could hardly believe. Is that difference true, can you feel it when driving - or is it a mistake on the website of triumph? - Thank you very much for posting!
Hmm... a difference of 6 cms? I can believe that but I didn't notice the difference... Therefore to me, it can't matter too much if it IS true and not just a typo?
Worth asking the question though... I'll email the chaps at Triumph... It certainly wasn't noticeable though...
Better look at your R's rear brake again. Pretty sure it's the same thing they put on everything else. Brake pads just need a few miles to bed in on this T100. I'm sure it'll be fine.
Fair enough. Maybe it is the bedding in... But my Thruxton has twin pot Brembo rear brakes whereas these are single nissin ones...
Per the website's spec page:
Thruxton R
Brakes Rear Single 220mm disc, Nissin 2-piston floating caliper, ABS
T100
Brakes Rear Single 255 mm disc, Nissin 2-piston floating caliper, ABS
You're absolutely right! I bow to your greater knowledge! Yes, could just be the pads need bedding in, or maybe a larger disc doesn't 'bite' quite so well? THat doesn't make sense, but that's an option maybe?!
Yeah, physics can be a tricky thing. Believe it or not, friction doesn't depend on surface area. What the surface area provides is means to dissipate heat. Overheating will cause changes to the materials under friction that lead to materials losing their friction. Think heat induced brake fade or tire slip.
So being larger, the T100 should actually perform better under duress, all other things being equal i.e. materials & design.
I think what may prevent the bike from having as good an initial bite is the fact that the T100 heavier bias ply tires, heavier steel wheels, and heavier brakes lead to more rotational inertia.
When it's all said and done, the brakes still have to shed the energy from X lbs moving at Y mph, but that extra rotational inertia may be harder to overcome immediately.
Think of why engine flywheels are weighted. It slows the speed at which the engine can speed up and slow down making the ride less herky jerky.
On my Versys, I use the rear brake a lot in cornering, because it's bigger and has less engine braking. On my Thruxton, I mostly just roll off the gas to set my corner entry speeds. It behaves much more like bikes I've owned in the past. The Versys was something that took me some time to get used to.
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Very very nice, even the flies approved
Indeed they did! :-)
Honoured by your watching as ever dear lady!
TBH! X
Captain! I need help I’m from across the pond in the colony. I can’t decide between the T100 black or a street scrambler. I’m dying here, I cannot decide.
Street Scrambler... For fun and for the ride, the scrambler wins hands down... More effortless to ride and same engine and more comfortable... The T100 for looks though... Your call...
Thank you, I ended up going with the T100 black. The price difference wasn’t worth it for me and the back seat of the scrambler wasn’t up to snuff for a passenger, it’s cheaper to put different handle bars on the T100 than it is to buy a new seat for the scrambler. Still in the run in period on my engine but it’s a fun little bike and it has some poke, and sounds fantastic.
Appreciate your input and excellent reviews of bikes, really helped me to know the Bonneville series was my next bike
Excellent review.👍🏽
Thank you very much and thank you for watching!
Hi Capn' That was a great review old boy ! Just a couple of questions what weight are you and how tall are you ? Tally Ho .
Thanks for watching Adrian.
I am 13.5 stone / 86kgs and 6'1 / 185cms... Inside leg is 32" if that is anything to go by...
TBH!
Thanks for the info l'm about the same stamp as you (just a tad more "rounded" In the midriff ) like the look of that T100 ........but l thought the scramblers ergo's would suit my frame better (taller seat height) great videos Captain keep em' coming 👍
Captain,
Love that BLUE&WHITE
paint!
The knee pads are TOO LOW on all the new Bonnevilles.
You neglected to say, is there a CENTER STAND.
Proper chain maintenance REQUIRES a center stand.
Ah, you just put on paddock stand bobbins for a paddock stand like I do with my Thruxton... But it didn't have one but you can get one.
Goodpoint... Knee pads are fine for me, depends on leg length I think...
Looking forward to your new Triumph Scrambler review old boy!
As soon as I can mount one, I'll let you all know! ;-)
Probably in the new year with the Bobber...
very nice! what's the difference in the t100 and t120? fancy accessories? love the classic looks tho!
Johnathan Davis engine size as far as i can tell
Engine size, weight, handling... Price. Therefore insurance as well.
Mainly because of the upright seating position. I folded and bought a Harley Shovelhead.... memories
Is there any chance that you try a HD883? I would like to hear your opinion about it and how it performs.
Well I'm visiting HD on Wednesday, so maybe I'll have a go! :-)
The T 100 is based on the year 1959 Model. This is a decent bike. early 1960s looks.
Jolly good show, Cap’n! I own the air cooled T100, and my choice of bike is largely down to the same reasons you articulated: perfectly usable real- world power , silky torque in our heavy Indian traffic which doesn’t necessitate putting more stress on my poor clutch hand than strictly necessary , and looks. I love the classic look, and hope to participate in the DGR this year.
Keep up the rambunctiousness, Sir, you’re a breath of fresh air. Yo-ho -ho!!
Of all the T100 jin joints i have been :)
Great walkaround, cheers for the review.
Thank you sir! Thanks for watching as always. Honoured... :-)
TBH!
mirrors that light up the moob area perfectly :)
I loved that too! :-)
Very nice video - thanks! Some questions: Would you mind stating your height, weight and inseam? Were your speed references in KPH or MPH? Would you explain what "cheeky" means?
Speed references were in mph. I am 6'1", 15st / 93kgs / 210lbs, and my inseam is 32".
Cheeky just meant peppy, like a little puppy, and easy to ride and flickable, or at least it does in my own mind...
Hope this helps...
Thanks for taking the time to reply. I'm probably going to buy this wonderful bike, based in large part on your terrific video!
Thomas Fisher Sounds like a good plan! :-)
So, why did Triumph make these two very similar bikes (T100 and Street Twin)? MY17 versions of them seem to have the same horsepower and torque.
Totally for difference in looks, ride and style. The T100 has the street twin engine in the T120 frame, making it ride differently but look perfectly like a modern representation of the 1959 Bonneville. Whereas the Street Twin is a completely modern looking small city / town bike.
Hope this helps.
Brum brum! I love my 2022 Goldline T100 with more BHP …raunchy
Great vid. Thanks
C.Wong.TH you’re welcome! Glad to have been of help!
Excellent review as normal captain.........are you going to the event on Thursday at Herts?
I'm afraid that I am away in Dublin that night. I have already sent my apologies...
Thank you Steve! Hopefully bump into you there soon... :-)
It's gutless because Triumph installed a cam which drops off power dramatically after 4500 rpm.
Believe it or not, if you fit a normal cam, the 900 will be almost as powerful as the T120. To me, that would be the best option, with the addition of a 6 pot caliper upfront.
Absolutely! I saw a video of a chap changing the cams and all was well! I don't suppose they wanted their smaller engined and cheaper bikes competing against their 'thoroughbreds'...
I put one of those TEC cams on order for my T100 recently. I may have it installed immediately or later, I was just assuming a limited production run. Yes, I could be annoyed that I'm not getting the full value out of the 900HT for what I paid. However, it's good there's a clear solution and the cam wasn't expensive (~$500 US) so I'm cool with it. I mean, that's way better than $1500 for the V-H exhaust that does nothing but fart louder, yes?
@@RhombusLabs Much cheaper than the price differential with the 1200 and your bike looks much nicer and will handle better with the lower weight. Maybe you might want to upgrade the front brake too. That would make it purrrfect!
@@RhombusLabs The standard pipes sound good so not really sure if I'd bother with louder pipes. The cam is a much better upgrade dollar for dollar.
Just be yourself my friend and all will be well. If those wankers don't like you yelling, they can go wank off and watch someone that's monotone and uninteresting. Just keep doin what you're doin, it's great!!!
Thanks Matthew! I doubt they'll change me... My wife tried once... It didn't work... ;-)
Really enjoyed the review.... and would seriously consider trading up my 865 black 2014 Bonnie........ but can I just say... to many people 900cc is not quite a little bike ... but in context of your biking history makes sense. ...and 31 minutes before the filtering song.... had almost given up.
Ha ha! yes, I know. It took a while, but I like to leave little gifts at the end for those who have the stamina... :-)
Very true, but it rides like a small bike to me, and although it's a 900cc, it still feels quite light. I, like you, would consider trading up to this if I had the 865cc just because this handles so much lighter with lower down weight...
It's all about the money of course... I hope that you enjoy! Always ride the bike first though... :-)
It just feels little to me, when I am rather a large person. At least it didn't feel too small to me, like the Street Twin did... The T120 frame obviously helps... :-)
Thank you for watching and for the comment. :-)
That indicator button!! arrrgggh
Yummy stuff ! Thanks again sir !
Thank you.
Great review as usual, and got me thinking that the T100 might be on the top of my list as a long term replacement for my 865SE for riding sunny day B roads, instead of the too-small ST I recently picked up cheap. As I mentioned in the T120 comments, I was thinking T120 or Thruxton.
Today I sat on the Thruxton, feet on pegs, and you're right, the riding position would be too severe on my arthritis, so I demo'd only the T120. I loved the extra power and legroom, but missed the lightweight agility of the ST on those narrow potholed twisties. Not that the T120 wasn't capable enough, just the ST is sooo made for it. It's all about trade offs of course.
Now I'm thinking the T100 could be the best of both worlds, especially with some after market mods to shave off a few extra pounds. Do I need the whoomf of the T120 in the real world? Probably not. And I really don't need all those little extras - I'm not planning to ride it much in the rain or cold, that's the Tiger's job.
So I'll be demoing a T100 at Pure Triumph Woburn once Storm Doris has abated.
It does sound to me that the T100 will be perfect for you!
Good luck! :-)
Turning radius??
Captain,
Love that Blue & White T100. It's too bad that I won't be able to get one.
Have you seen "Red" &
PhilT's daughter yet ? Tell
them I asked. Imagine,
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I just watched a video on a
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off landing.
I saw it on Facebook. I don't know if it's on TH-cam, or not.
You know I named my 41yr
old son after Colin Chapman. I promised him I
wouldn't ride anymore.
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That was fun watching yet again, I must admit Im asking why Triumph decided on this? when the T120 as the edge in all departments I think, but yet I love Triumphs so the more the better.
Next time when you try that short rendition of Me and my shadow you may want to use a different key or a semitone higher!! All good fun , cheers
Ha ha! I'll bear that in mind! :-)
It handles differently to the T120, is lighter, more nimble and lower so suits novices and smaller people better... Also is A2 compliant (with a restrictor) so should fill a niche in the younger people who want a classic styled bike, and I know of a few on Twitter, who love it...
splendid review, it is an absolute joy to ride. it's so cool it offsets global warming....
Ha ha! Lovely simile...
Very nice bike, personally I quite like the fork gaiters, it's the sort of thing I'd be quite happy with as a second bike, don't think I could part with the cruiser, Cracking review old chap, RSM8.
I do too! :-)
Thanks Skeggy! :-)
TBH!
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i believe there is a 35kw variant?
They did great!
Agreed!
I like the boisterousness and bawdiness. It's fun.
What's you're opinion on the new triumph scrambler & street cup.
I'm afraid that I haven't tried to come to a decision on them yet... Not until I ride them, but I love the fact that there is an A2 licence compliant cafe racer bike...
I'm a bit annoyed about the 900 Scrambler because Triumph have hoodwinked those customers that bought the scrambler inspiration kit for the Street Twin, and this 900 comes out and should be better but for a few £100 less!
Will see how they ride... :-)
A2 license compliant? But these triumphs are not right? You have to buy a restrictor kit..well at least as fas as i know.
ripmax333 Triumph will supply and fit the restrictor kits for free if you need the A2 compliance and will remove when you are able... Best option for everyone I think...
is there a road test of the bobber in the works soon?
Not for a while. The press ride is in Spain this month some time. My dealer will be getting one in in January and hopefully I'll be able to ride it before an official launch.
I might contact Triumph to see if I can ride it even earlier, but there's normally an embargo on this sort of thing so that they actual press can get better exclusives. Luckily for me, in the instance of the T100, there is no official launch so I could publish this video as soon as I had edited it...
I'll keep people posted about the Bobber on Facebook and Twitter though, so keep watching!
THank you for watching and for the comment..
TBH!
LOL - this dude cracks me up. Great review!
thank you Troy!
Thanks for watching and for the comment.
TBH!
For sale: 2014 Bonne T100 like new. 125 miles. Extras. St Louis.
thank you nice one
Thanks for watching Colin!
I read that BSA maybe making a comeback soon. Have you heard anything on that over there? As to Triumph, I think I still prefer the old, classic look of the Bonneville.
I read that too... Depends on the rights and how much money they have to do it properly... Maybe ask Mr Bloor for a few tips?
The point of this T100 is that it DOES look like the original 1959 Bonnie but with a lot of modern bits all hidden and tucked away... :-)
Captain Rambunctious You may have heard that some years ago that someone attempted to resurrect Excelsior-Henderson. However due to financial mismanagement, the company fell through. However, Indian, has made a strong comeback. If you have an Indian dealership nearby, you might to try one of those as well.
Meant to ask you, have you seen many Can Am Spyder's over there? And if so, how popular do they seem to be? I'd recommend that you take one of those for a ride as well if you have any dealerships nearby.
Thomas Nessman There is an Indian dealer about an hour and a half away. I have seen some Can Am Spyders at a dealer but I've never seen any on the roads. Our roads are just too tight and twisty really to warrant something like this. There will be a few on the roads but I've never seen one.
Good looking bike ..