NK300 Speed and Range Test. It’s FAST!!!
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In this video I'm reviewing the latest kayak motor to hit the market. I'll be doing a speed test and battery consumption on the Newport NK300 kayak motor and giving you the expected range at different speeds.
My first time Kayaking and this Kayak held strong. th-cam.com/users/postUgkx4k5UrhC3v_Y4hIEaXLGvHcN5a5aBmZNB The water got pretty rough as a speed boat zipped by me, and the Kayak withstood it (I expected to be capsized). The Ores are very easy to put together, the pump worked beautifully. the seats are a bit hard to sit in after a while (I recommend sitting on the floor). after reading the reviews I was very scared it'd get a hole in it, the material is very strong and durable. The Air valve may need a small Phillips head screwdriver to adjust, other than that, it's well worth the money!(update)I've gone Kayaking in 3 Lakes and 2 rivers totaling about 40 miles. the kayak had two holes and they patched easily and no other problems can't wait for kayaking season this year!
I have definitely enjoyed it. Makes fishing much more enjoyable.
I appreciate how you pay close attention to detail. Thank you for the breakdown. Very informative! 🔥
Thanks for the feedback.
Thank you! I just bought an NK300 but was trying to figure out the size of battery for trolling ~2.4mph on Lake Michigan. I really appreciate the detail/analysis you put into the video. Best I found!
Thanks for the feedback. I’ve been using the Dakota Lithium 36v 60AH. Haven’t killed the batter yet.
Wow...nice job. One of the most detailed videos on the performance of the NK 300 on TH-cam.
Just giving the people what they really want
Awesome motor, I’ve been super happy with the 18OS performance on my PA 14. I’m getting 4.8-5.0 mph at 70% throttle and never came close to running out of juice fishing many 8 hour plus days on a 24 volt 50amp hour Amped Outdoors battery.
The 180 has been a beast. Looking forward to years of use with this one.
This motor is on my radar.
Thank you for the video 👍
Your welcome. It’s been a great motor.
Thanks for making this video with speed test. I’m planning to mount this motor on my nucanoe unlimited
Awesome. You’ll enjoy it.
i'm looking to put one of those on my bote rover aero which I'm sure is lighter and draws less water than that hobie. if you're getting 4.2mph at 30% draw, that's insane. there does seem to an inflection point around that 50% energy consumption. this is really great performance for 3hp equiv. for where I'm fishing, off the coast of southern california, I'm looking at a 3-4 mile radius from launch. i don't think I'd need to gas it past 40%. with my 55ah battery, 25 mile range is waaaaay more than I'd need. plus, once you get to the kelp beds, you go slow and stay there and maybe manuever around a bit. I'd probably run half that battery on a long day on the water.
this is one of the best videos for information on exactly what the motor can do. much thanks!!!
Thanks. Glad it helped
very detailed. great video breakdown! that motor is a killer!
It really is. Thanks for the feedback.
I love the NK-300. I think it's the best kayak motor out there. I think it's the trim, weight, and small adjustments. My NK is on my Oldtown 120 PDL, and i plug my deck. "Kayak USA" ran his NK-300 with that same boat, PA-14 360, And he had his XI3 up. He was hitting 7.2 mph. Definitely think you'll get a little more speed, with some adjustments. Took me a few trips, to figure mine out, plus moving accessories, and gear around. Awesome vid bro! 🛶 🌊 🎣
Thanks. 7.2 is insane. Was that with his xi3 installed at the time. Maybe the weight distribution helped
@@garrettwadefishing Yes he had the XI3 on the boat, but locked up on the bow. He did run both, but that doesn't give any extra speeds. And he had the boat rigged, as he would with all his gear. 💯 😎 " I'm positive he hit 7mph.
Super sweet but dang that price tag HURTS!
True. Everything is expensive these days.
Thanks for the vid man! Definitely upgrading soon👊🏻
Glad it helped
Excellent video! About time someone broke down the ratio between speed and energy consumption so a person knows at where you start getting diminished returns.
Obviously there are variables with different vessels as some will glide through the water and others are tanks.
Some units can get over 10MPH and that is really cool but if it drains your battery in 10 minutes then what’s the point.
It always helps to know the range
Great Video! Hope yoi're doing well. And hope to see some new vids soon.
Nice I’d really like to have one, but I don’t want to register the kayak here in Texas as another expense but thanks for sharing.
Registration is pretty simple here in Alabama. It cost me about $20 a year
like your chiiiannel, Buhcause you just spinn time on the wadar!! always gib it a hunder n' ten pecent!!!
Looks good! Dope setup! Looks basically exactly like mine haha!
I wouldn’t have it any other way
At what percent level is at 1.8 and 2 mph that’s my trolling speed targeting striped bass. Is 11% the slowest ? Thanks for showing us the video.
It’s infinite speed control. You can get it all the way down to 4% or so. That’s probably right around 1 mile an hour
If you're not short on time it seems like the sweet spot is between 20% and 30%. That offers the most range with the least amount of battery consumption. That said, if you're only going on a few miles then you may as well just crank it on up.
You get used to the speed very quickly. I almost never run under 5mph
Getting ready to put this on my Native Slayer 12.5. There battery is only 40ah but it should be enough. By the way, gators can swim 20 mph😮
40ah will run all day if you don’t run it hard. I’ve had some friends kill a 50ah with the nk180 trying to keep up with me. That was after 13-15 miles
It's great to see real-life stats for speed and watt consumption. How did you determine the depth to put your motor? I see yours is a lot higher than how it's shipped.
Thanks. I just eyeballed the height sitting below the kayak. I may play with it some to see if it helps with performance.
Over 6 mph is pretty good speed in a kayak!
Yes it is.
Great video! Thanks bud
Yes sir
Thank you
Your very welcome
Thanks for the video. What were your main decisions in going with Newport over the torqeedo?
Mainly having the option to pick my own battery and not being stuck without options if the torqueedo battery failed.
Sweet video! What kinda battery setup are you running with the new motor?
The motor came in last minute so I haven’t upgraded the battery yet. I’m using my Dakota Lithium 24volt 60ah and my 12volt 60ah in series to get 36volts.
How do you find out the efficiency speed on any given boat?
Only way I know of is either by testing it yourself or finding people that have.
not bad.. Im thinking of getting a custom motor from china.. kinda built the same as the nk300 but im going to get a 120lb thrust..the custom one vs the nk300 at the same thrust which would be 80lb is that the nk300 is halved in efficancy.. not sure why they would do that, but the efficancy is only 40% compared to the real one or custom one is 90%.. in terms of what that means the custom one could push a 2204lb boat at 6mph but the nk300 is only pushing your kayak which id say is around the 440lb mark or something like that at 6mph at max speed and that is because the efficancy is halved. The 120lb thrust is same as a 5hp, it does use 60ah per hour on 24v but im going with a 24v 200ah battery which should get me 3.5 hours on max though I wouldn't go max because based on the effciancy and the speed it would max go 43mph.. which is way to fast for a kayak rated at 200-250kg load but on low speed which would be 14 hours use it woudl go 10mph..which would be sick.. tho if you drop down to the 100lb thrust it would be around the 9mph for 18 hours use on low
I’m not sure where this math is coming from but a 120lb thrust motor will never go 40mph. And as far a efficiency 24 volt motors are not at efficient at 36volt. What kind of kayak are you putting it on.
@@garrettwadefishingnot only is your math flawed but so is your premise. Kayaks are displacement hulls not cleaning hulls. That is why you reach the point of diminishing returns so quickly. Adding more power even much more power will not increase a kayak speed appreciably. Power consumption will grow exponentially to a very small increase in speed.
Is there a rock guard for that prop??? Thanks...great video!!!
I’m not aware of one made specifically for the Newport. Someone may have one out by now though.
Have you encountered aquatic weeds with this motor, and how well did it do? Some of the best fishing is where there is pretty thick growth, so it is good to know if the motor just cut through them, or started to excessively vibrate or quite when fouled?
I’ve used it in the grass at Guntersville, Chick, and central Florida. It does really good but will get fouled up in thick grass at times. Typically pulling the motor up with the trim rope and throttling up will sling them off. I have found the innovative sportsman rock guard does help with the weeds. Hope that helps. If you decide to go that route you can use Garrett10 as your discount code and save 10%. I’ll also get a small commission off of it. If you have any other questions feel free to ask. I use that motor in all my videos and have two video showing how I install steering for it.
@@garrettwadefishing Thanks for your direct experience and a device for fending off weeds and rocks. Your response has influenced my decision as to what electric outboard to purchase.
Glad I could help
Great video. What hole is your trim pin on the Newport bracket? Thank you
I usually run it in the middle hole. I fished a shallow river last week and had the motor as high as it would go and trimmed up an extra hole and it still worked well
I like your review.
I was thinking of installing this motor on my inflatable fishing paddle board.
Will the mount bolt onto a glue on scotty mount?
I am not familiar with the bolt pattern of a power pole mount, are the simular?
I am sure I will have to build a custom adapter out of some uhmw plastic.
Steering would be a push/ pull handle .
Or cable steering with seat mounted handle.
Man I couldn’t give you any advice on that one. I’m sure you could make some kind of adapter to make it work. I would probably look at the nk180 for a paddle board.
Hum?
50 Amp hour 12v battery is 600 watts. (Volts x amps). So you battery can provide 600 watts for one hour.
Base on your math, at 50% you were using 464 watts. So divide your 600 watts available by 464 used and thats 1.29 hours or roughly an hour and a half.
1.5 hours at 5 mph is 7.5 miles. No where close to 19.8
(Remember that you must convert amp hours, a measure of charge to watt hours a measure of current) For example 400 watts is about 33.33 Amp hours at 12v.....
What did I miss???
It’s a 36 volt motor so I’m using a 36volt battery. That should help your math
Thank you I saw that they have options for 12, 24 and 36 systems.
I'm gathering the higher voltage is basically equated into higher levels of thrust ?
@wiley0714 basically yes. Higher voltage can usually be more efficient also. I’ve run the 24volt NK180 and 36volt NK300. Both are great motors. I run 60 AH batteries on both setups and that has always been more than enough capacity for long tournament and prefish days.
I’ll buy you’re old one from you, been curious about trying a Newport
I’ll probably let Sam use it. Just what a 10 year old needs right?!
I think if you put a slightly bigger propeller with 2 blades on it may would go faster. Might want to research that to confirm...
It’s definitely got a big enough propeller
Hello, with the charge indicator on the controller at 0%, what voltage does the controller indicate?
The controller reads the voltage of the battery. That voltage would depend the battery. Not all manufacturers will have the exact same full charge but my Dakota Lithium is in the 39 volt range. I’m not sure at what low voltage the motor cuts off at if that’s what your asking. I’ve never ran it all the way down.
Insane technologies great vid how far could i go distance and time half power with a 100 amp lithium battery guesstimate
You could probably get 30 miles out of that size battery at half throttle. I can get about 20 miles out of my 60ah throttled back to 4-4.5 mph
go with lithum batery libger rabe
Are you using the P.A. steering?
Im using foot control steering with cables going directly to the motor
Is a salt water version available for the Newport?
There is only one version of the NK series motors. As far as I know that are fine to use in saltwater. I’ve had mine on a couple inshore trips and an offshore trip and haven’t had any issues. Just be sure to rinse it off when your done.
I want one. 😂 thanks 👍
Not gonna lie. It will spoil you.
How long does the battery last using it at 100%?
I run a 36v 60ah battery from Dakota Lithium. It will last right at 2 hours so just under 12 miles. Decreasing speed to 5mph the range goes up dramatically close to 18-20 miles
@@garrettwadefishing thank very much
No problem
Strange question here. I’m a weekend angler. If you weren’t doing tournament fishing to where you have to beat someone to a spot, would you choose a stern mount motor like this or go with spot lock Xi3? Something about having spot lock just keeps me leaning towards buying that. I’m trying to decide.
Me personally would still go with the stern mount motor. I still like to go fast. If you fish shallow rivers, or in a lot of grass, or like to continually move while fishing (aka beating the bank with moving baits) I would say go stern mount. If you fish slower or spend a lot of time off the bank spot lock would be a good choice. It really all depends on your fishing style. The both have there place
buy x ¹3 x3
How slow can you go? Can you use this motor to work the shore line, boat dock, lay downs etc. how is the motor noise?
I use it all the time fishing down the bank. 3%-5% will get you as slow as you want and it’s the same noice as a trolling motor.
I noticed with my NK 180 that if I ran it 60% and above for over 10 minutes that the terminals end cables of my battery would melt and make it difficult to detach the battery cables from the motor. On hot days, this issue became more apparent. Has anybody else experience this? If so, what is a solution to fix this problem? Thanks in advance.
Sounds like a loose connection causing extra resistance and causing it to get hot.
Need heavier cables………
Less resistance………
I would say that was a possibility but that motor isn’t drawing a ton of amps. As long as the cables are being used that came with the motor that shouldn’t be the problem.
Would you mind sharing your foot steering set-up?
Check out my foot steering video. I’ve got all the materials you need in the description
Did you figure out a mounting option that works with 300 and power pole? Thanks
Yes. I’m using the Tim Percy mounting plate and then have the Newport motor mount attached to it. It seems to be a good solution. www.dugoutfishing.com/product-page/tim-percy-motor-mount-w-dual-powerpole
I just got the NK300 with the Newport 50 AH battery, what box did you put the battery in?
I’ve got a toolbox from Lowe’s that I have my motor battery and electronics battery in.
What battery size were u using at the time of this video? 36v 30ah or 40ah?
This was before I got my Dakota Lithium 36v 60ah. I was using my 24v 60ah and 12v 60ah in series temporarily until my new battery came in.
This is the video that made me pull the trigger and ordered one for my native titan 13.5. Mini bass boat…. Now to keep the xi3 as well or sell it ?…
Tough call. They both have there pros.
Been thinking about running both the nk300 to get me to my spots then flip the xi3 down use the tracking or spot lock feature. I don’t think with a 60ah 12v up front and the 36v 30ah in rear I’ll be to unbalanced or weighed down
You can definitely do that fun fishing. Tournaments typically only allow one motor on a vessel.
Oh that makes sense why I never see y’all tournament fishing with two lol. I have thought about if I sell the xi3 I could invest in some power poles
Power poles are great for shallow water fishing. Especially in the spring. I use mine a lot to hold my spot while I’m measuring fish so I don’t float through an area I still need to fish.
speed test w/o the mirage drive inserted?
I doesn’t make very much difference
Is there a yak with a planing hull?
Not that I’m aware of. There are definitely some that have faster hulls though.
Hows the troll speeds? Can u hit the slower speeds too? .75-1.0
Yes you can slow it down to 5%-7% and crawl along.
So were you running 36 volt or 24 volt?
36 volts. I added a Dakota Lithium 12 volt 60ah battery to my 24/60 to get the 36 volts
Would this bolt right onto the Hobie outback?
You will need a power pole plate. Hobie makes one, one obejective, Tim Percy also makes one. The motor bracket will bolt directly to that.
@@garrettwadefishing thanks homie
Is this pa 14 ?
Yes. I’m running a PA14 with the 360 drive
Hiw are you steering?
I have foot pedals hooked up to my motor. It’s the only way in my opinion. I have a video on the install if your interested. It’s on my channel.
@@garrettwadefishing thanks man I'll check it out
Wow, 5.7 times more power consumption for only 45% more speed.
Yeah fishing kayaks were definitely not built for speed. That motor is pretty efficient up to about 5 mph. After that physics are working against you.
@@garrettwadefishing I think this is true in general of all boats. Every time you double the speed you cut efficiency in half.
So, basically, anything above 50% throttle is useless...... Way to go Newport! You designed something even crappier than the 180S!
I wouldn’t say useless. They needed something to keep up with the torqueedo 1103. There are definitely times I need that extra 1 mile per hour to get to a spot before someone else does. But if you don’t need the top end speed or the added range I would definitely go the nk180 route
180S crappie, I must be a lucky owner then. I’ve got over 500 hundred hours on the water in the last 4 months in Florida with mine and it’s been a beast. I run it through hydrilla that’s so thick you could about walk on it, Newport rocks.
@@robinsheltrafishing2634 tell me more!!! I'm getting the tiller shipped to Canada to run on a 17ft freight canoe! 900lb capacity. Replacing a 4hp johnson. The gas people say it can't be done!
Every boat will be different. Hobie is a tank. If you put it on a more narrow, sleek kayak, you'd see much better speed and efficiency. Not really the motor's fault.
100% Hobie PAs weren’t made for speed. I’m sure a sleeker kayak would do much better.
Crazy how someone can change the color of the prop and call it there own motor…
Snowflake
Seeing how it uses a completely different voltage I’m pretty sure it’s more than just the prop color. I mean a mercury and a Yamaha are basically the same concept.
@@garrettwadefishing at least Yamaha and mercury designs looks different…
Maybe. But did the 30 years ago
How do you up the voltage 24v to 36v on the same motor?