How to handle toxic fumes from 3D resin printing: featuring Anycubic M3 Premium and Photon Mono X2

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  • @abovewongart
    @abovewongart  ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Affiliate link to the specs: amzn.to/40Uvmv8

  • @Dtr146
    @Dtr146 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    Buddy of mine got a bunch of resin printers. He didn't ventilate the room that they were in well enough. He said he got the worst headache ever walking in there after a night of printing

    • @abovewongart
      @abovewongart  ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I could see that happening. I went through that at first. I used the printers in my bedroom and after the first print, I realized it's probably not safe for my breathing.

    • @ZFGFZDGDFG
      @ZFGFZDGDFG 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@abovewongart errrm i might be doing this rn

    • @SpaceSpuddd
      @SpaceSpuddd 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Learning that today after my first print 😅

  • @MATTW3R
    @MATTW3R 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +75

    Carbon filters don’t actually clean any of the toxicity of the toxic fumes. It just removes the smell which can lead to overall higher concentrations of toxic fumes

    • @user-ev6vs6bd9r
      @user-ev6vs6bd9r 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Exactly. There's tons of reviews saying to stay away from them and not to buy them and to just get a well ventilated area cause apparently the filters don't work for jack ish. I was going to buy them until I read all the reviews.

    • @Kanieos
      @Kanieos 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Carbon Filters can reduce VOCs (the toxic stuff) in the air, it just needs a lot more carbon than in these small filters.

  • @GlerpidyGlarson
    @GlerpidyGlarson ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Respirator added to shopping list for next payday. Also I'll be doing mine mostly in my garage.

    • @abovewongart
      @abovewongart  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That's a great space for the printers

    • @NAmeansNotAttendingfinals
      @NAmeansNotAttendingfinals 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      What Respirator did you get? I've been looking at so many have bad reviews, I'm not trying to go blind or die. lmao

    • @Gregowolves
      @Gregowolves 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Hello, I'm new. I have in my garage but I'm concerned about other people walking through. Is there a need to vent the space so people can walk through normally to do laundry?

    • @GlerpidyGlarson
      @GlerpidyGlarson 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Gregowolvesfan

    • @logangatlin
      @logangatlin 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@NAmeansNotAttendingfinals 3M 6006 is 3Ms cartridge that removes the most VOCs (the harmful gasses we are concerned about with resin printing) there is also a more expensive cartridge that also removes airborne dust as well (60926). As far as the actual mask goes you just need something that will fit you well and has a good seal. Personally I have the 3M 6200 and am happy with it.
      Edit: just realized this is a 3mo old post but I’m leaving this comment as it’s may still be helpful.

  • @rj7855
    @rj7855 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Much better is to use an extraction fan to the outside

  • @MrWylwy
    @MrWylwy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    Carbon filters don't remove the hurtful stuff, just the odor, be careful.

    • @CoFRTheGamerXxX
      @CoFRTheGamerXxX 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sure they do.
      Elegoo literally makes a giant filter to connects the the plastic hoods, it filters VOCs and it’s just a activated carbon filter. Nothing fancy.
      It’s just those small filters need to be on for a lot longer then the printer to do their job

    • @aartadventure
      @aartadventure 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Incorrect. People have used devices that measure VOCs (volatile organic compounds), and found the same amount of VOCs are present when using a carbon filter (your nose just can't smell it as much). You can search a bunch of examples on TH-cam of this.@@CoFRTheGamerXxX

    • @demijebus6831
      @demijebus6831 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      ​@CoFRTheGamerXxX this is false. There are several youtubers explaining why carbon filters are not enough.

    • @CoFRTheGamerXxX
      @CoFRTheGamerXxX 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@demijebus6831 Uh huh... you go ahead and Sue Elegoo for billions than :P

    • @spammerscammer
      @spammerscammer 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@CoFRTheGamerXxX the carbon filters only filter out the smell. The harmful VOCs are way smaller than the filters can filter out.

  • @envynemo4170
    @envynemo4170 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    having the printer in an enclosure that has an VAC system connected to it to vent outside is also an good idea too

  • @HighlineGuitars
    @HighlineGuitars 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I had to abandon resin printing as it was triggering respiratory issues and repeated migraine headaches. Masks, gloves, and industrial ventilation help, but those toxins still get into your body. I predict a major class action lawsuit against the resin printing industry and they know it because they are preparing for it.

    • @The3Dprintinggeek448
      @The3Dprintinggeek448 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Make sure that your sucking air through the mask not air coming from the gaps that might help pretend it is Covid again

    • @mr.finkle4677
      @mr.finkle4677 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah ok buddy

  • @CowliCreations
    @CowliCreations 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Ideally you want a hepa filter that filters down to 0.01 microns as the particles are this small. You can also build a simple ventilation system. I have a video on my channel for anyone interested!

  • @jbabs4801
    @jbabs4801 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Theres a Eco UV resin I use by Anycubic which is low odor and combine with the carbon filters leaves little odor to worry about. I am also a person whose sensitive to smell and getting headaches from it so this stuff helps me out

    • @waveril5167
      @waveril5167 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      btw it's not the odor that is bad, it's the micro particles that are still there, also in odor less

    • @toddkuznitz3629
      @toddkuznitz3629 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@waveril5167yeah if anything I’d rather have the odor so I know if i need to crack open another window

  • @quashmonkey
    @quashmonkey 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    You aren't doing enough to remove the fumes, you need very good ventilation such as a vacuum hood at a minimum

    • @yesnobutyes
      @yesnobutyes 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I dont think he cares

  • @kristenransom6963
    @kristenransom6963 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love how clean our uv cover is. The photon m3 was my first printer and its a little grub now haha

    • @abovewongart
      @abovewongart  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Omg yes for filming I spray and clean it often with FRESH IPA and a micofiber cloth

  • @wilurbean
    @wilurbean ปีที่แล้ว +5

    HEPA filters are for particles
    Resin printers make VOCs
    You're not filtering anything with the cylinder filter

    • @abovewongart
      @abovewongart  ปีที่แล้ว

      How do you know?

    • @meatsmell8639
      @meatsmell8639 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What filters do you recommend for VOCs?

    • @ivannikolic6738
      @ivannikolic6738 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@meatsmell8639hepa

    • @demijebus6831
      @demijebus6831 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@meatsmell8639none, you need proper ventilation and ppe.

    • @CowliCreations
      @CowliCreations 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You want a HEPA filter that filters Vocs down to 0.001 microns since this is how small the particles get from our printers... Check out my ventilation system also on my channel which is a great way to remove the fumes...

  • @Toonio-mk5ou
    @Toonio-mk5ou 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    For anyone starting out. I have a photon mono 4k printer with 2 charcoal filters in there (similair to in the vid but i bought them extra) do not AND I REPEAT do not skip on ventilation an open window is not enough. U might get away with puting it in the garage but even then ventilation is important. I do not have much space so it sits behind me in my working area where i am every day for extended periods of time. And the only thing keeping me remotely safe is those filters.
    I advice you to invest in some filters and if u got the space make some kind of filtration system where the fumes are vented outside. And wear gloves and a respirator. I know i am saying commong things but i have known people to not have any filters and have it next to animal enclosures etc. Resin is a toxic material so treat it as such

    • @abovewongart
      @abovewongart  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      noice

    • @user-ev7id5bu2w
      @user-ev7id5bu2w 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I have a resin 3d printer in my bedroom. It's locked up in a hydroponic grow tent with a small air filter system going from inside the tent, through some industrial plastic piping and out the window. I have 1 AYCUBIC carbon filter inside the 3d printer and 1 LARGE air purifier next to my bed with carbon filters and a hepa filter inside it. My question is, is that going to be enough protection from toxic fumes, for when I actually start 3d printing? I don't have any other space to move my 3d printer into, just my bedroom.

    • @aartadventure
      @aartadventure 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The filters only remove the smell. The VOCs (the toxic volatile organic compounds) are still present. Sorry.

    • @Toonio-mk5ou
      @Toonio-mk5ou 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@aartadventuregenuine question tho are you sure about that since it does use a charcoal filter. Air filters that use a hepa filter are used to remove Tiny particles from the air. If u do have more info on this could you redirect me.

    • @RocktracksSC
      @RocktracksSC 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Toonio-mk5ou th-cam.com/video/fjhmXzvbyfA/w-d-xo.html
      This video goes into it. It appears so, although VOC meters aren't perfect either. Best to actively vent out a window rather than relying on filtration.

  • @jtm6186
    @jtm6186 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I just hold my breath.

    • @wodansam75
      @wodansam75 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      i usually just hold my crotch while saying "you cant hurt me"

  • @redmask1356
    @redmask1356 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    tbh, the ravioli made the whole video for me

  • @jasminelove2550
    @jasminelove2550 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Glad to know my Levoilt will be good enough. 👍🏾

  • @MotoMUSEUM
    @MotoMUSEUM 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this is not close to good enough for safety. These filters actually have 0 effect! the fumes from these resins are extremely toxic and carcerogenous. I've invested almost 3x times as much in ventilation than in printed and other hardware.

  • @demijebus6831
    @demijebus6831 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Go into any shop and you will not find carbon air scrubbers. You will find ventilation units cycling the entire volume of the buildings air every few minutes or hour. I recommend having your resin printer in a place that is capable or can be made capable of doing that.

  • @SLA3DPrints
    @SLA3DPrints 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’d suggest something different. Get an inline activated charcoal filter used for grow houses. Hook up the suction part to the back of your resin printer. My VOC’s went to practically zero when I did this

  • @joshuagarza7884
    @joshuagarza7884 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yoooo the x2 has a spot for them inside?

  • @prankmastereight
    @prankmastereight 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh that's why I get tear gassed whenever I print lol

  • @DarkNeko9989
    @DarkNeko9989 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    peel that darn manufactures sticker off the top of that fan\filter.

  • @ghguyrur7
    @ghguyrur7 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I made an exhaust that vents outside

  • @svenjones4371
    @svenjones4371 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Carbon filters only filter the odor. As far as an air purifier, I don't know., would seem they wouldn't because it produces a gas and I don't know if filters can absorb fumes. I have a Ventilation system that draws it out my window directly out of the back of the printer. The smell still comes from the cleaning. But I am outfitting the shed for 3d printing because of fume concerns and my family.

  • @SpaceGringos3D
    @SpaceGringos3D 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Smells bad, but tastes amazing 👻

  • @Felixst4
    @Felixst4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does the filter come with the printer? And how is the smell after printing a model? I hope it significantly reduces it

    • @emackenzie
      @emackenzie ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Some printers come with a carbon filter, but not all. I have a Saturn 2 and don't really smell the resin at all if the case is on it

  • @Masterofnone808
    @Masterofnone808 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just purchased the same printer you do. I’m just curious because I’ve been getting a lotta miss prints can you share with me your settings just so I can have a starting point and adjust from there. Thanks

    • @abovewongart
      @abovewongart  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Check out my slicing tutorials on my channel

    • @jonkendrick89
      @jonkendrick89 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's probably temps. Not only does it need to be warm, it needs to stay warm. You may be experiencing heat loss in many ways. Your resin, vat, platform, screen, base, and z arm all have different temps. Also the air inside your printer may be too great in variety from your resin and when the platform breaks the surface and the air touches the print and buildplate for the first time, your resin and plate may be contracting too quickly.

  • @bananogamer6972
    @bananogamer6972 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Don't mean to be annoying or what, but "ravioli" it's the plural form. If it's a singular one it's called "raviolo"

    • @abovewongart
      @abovewongart  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      For reals? Ty for telling me

  • @derpcoco623
    @derpcoco623 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    still has a strong fume with all those filters. best to go outside or build yourself another encloser

  • @elsmokoloko3597
    @elsmokoloko3597 ปีที่แล้ว

    But how toxic is it really? I don't get lung irritation, but I can't find any information about long-term health consequences. Currently I just wear gloves and glasses but if you know of any long term affects breathing these fumes I might change my approach.

    • @abovewongart
      @abovewongart  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      smoking cigarettes was healthy activity till 30 years later people started dying. Maybe in a couple more years we will find out more of the effects. Till then I'm taking my chances. It's either 3d printing or meth to kill boredom for me.

    • @meatsmell8639
      @meatsmell8639 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@abovewongart Funnily enough, the safety equipment for both, is rather similar, and so is the potential clientele! 🤣

  • @jack0cat
    @jack0cat ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There are hardly any fumes I don’t know what resin you are using but I have three in my print room and I tell you that there are zero fumes you can smell a little bit but it’s almost nonexistent.
    Your exaggerations potentially will make someone not get a resin printer.

    • @abovewongart
      @abovewongart  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ummm fumes be strong AF

    • @metalcokatoo6178
      @metalcokatoo6178 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Fumes doesn't have to stink in order to be toxic!

    • @jack0cat
      @jack0cat 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@metalcokatoo6178
      Otay 👍👌

    • @drewoftheinternet
      @drewoftheinternet 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      "Fumes/Smells" aren't the same thing as the cancer-causing VOCs. You're obviously not educated on this stuff, so before you print more, you may want to do some more research.

    • @CowliCreations
      @CowliCreations 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This isn't true! When working with any liquid resin or plastics they always give off fumes. Even if you can't smell anything you will be breathing in Vocs (Volatile organic compounds) it's very important you take this stuff seriously as it can seriously impact your health. Any less, is just naivety I'm afraid!
      Please take this stuff seriously guys, it is already proven to be potentially carcinogenic. This doesn't mean don't get into printing, just take the relevant precautions!

  • @mtb0519
    @mtb0519 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Open the windows 🤦‍♂️

  • @CRAIGYMAN64
    @CRAIGYMAN64 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please forgive my ignorance on this, but here's what I've done and I'd like to know if you think it's good enough.
    I have the AnyCubic M3 Premium I have an enclosure that this will be going into, and it'll be in my garage with the air duct running out the side vent near the floor. Of course I also have the charcoal filters. I got two toddlers, and I don't want to take any chance of getting them or my wife sick.
    Do you think this is enough or should I be taking more precaution? Hopefully I'm just being paranoid, I went with water washable resin only as well to keep from the living room reaping of IPA and hopefully any fumes since it's right near my garage.
    Anyways, thank you so much for you time in advance love your channel!

    • @abovewongart
      @abovewongart  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That sounds like a really great setup idea. I just use a carbon small filter in the room that I keep the printers

  • @the.other.ian.
    @the.other.ian. ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i want to eat that ravioli

  • @Ifsu666
    @Ifsu666 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Doing gods work

    • @drewoftheinternet
      @drewoftheinternet 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Misinformation is god's work? Lmao

  • @lordgrape5015
    @lordgrape5015 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hol up... any cubic has an 8k now?

    • @abovewongart
      @abovewongart  ปีที่แล้ว

      They have a 12 k now too. I'll printing with it soon

    • @lordgrape5015
      @lordgrape5015 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@abovewongart Just checked it out and WOW! I got my 6k for 700a and they are selling this that's faster and 12k for 499. Gonna have an upgrade soon.

  • @SeanSchwifty
    @SeanSchwifty ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Enjoy those fumes 😂
    Whether you’re inside or outside-the world we live in is full of harmful chemicals that we can’t avoid.
    You can thank the corporate model for it too 😅

  • @leodoctorcomputer415
    @leodoctorcomputer415 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fumes?? Its a fake story.. the uv process not result on a fumes dude.. the propose of the fan inside of enclosure its only to infest your room of bed smell.

    • @CowliCreations
      @CowliCreations 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is very naive. Please, please do your due diligence and research the subject...

  • @NibNa5ty
    @NibNa5ty ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Read the msds of the resins. They arent that bad for humans

  • @smokerdjoker2
    @smokerdjoker2 ปีที่แล้ว

    First

  • @quantummandavid
    @quantummandavid ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Those filters are crap. You need exhaust to outside and fresh inlet of airflow. Put outlet strong and near printers.

    • @abovewongart
      @abovewongart  ปีที่แล้ว

      How do you know? Carbon filter works great

    • @omegadeepblue1407
      @omegadeepblue1407 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​​@@abovewongarti think he saw a recent video from youtuber maker tales where he analyzes the quality of the air and that by itself the carbon filters does not work, you also need a way to heavy ventilate the space you are printing and guide the fumes to the outside.

  • @cesarleylim
    @cesarleylim ปีที่แล้ว

    I have being printing and I don’t use none of that I haven’t smell any fumes and I have the same anycubic photon 4k

    • @abovewongart
      @abovewongart  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Did you maybe get covid?

    • @omegadeepblue1407
      @omegadeepblue1407 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ese compa ya esta muertooooooooo, nomas no le han avisado.