340BHP Alfaworks Modified Alfa Romeo 4C: Is It Worth Upgrading?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ค. 2024
- Today I'm asking a very simple question. If you own an Alfa Romeo 4C, should you modify it?
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Its funny that the owner seems to be sitting in the passenger seat, while Jay slates pretty much all the mods he's done to it :D
But that's journalism for you !
@@aljaliah6868
tH4t tEh jErN41lzM 4 y4!
The race ECU makes the gearbox a little jerky compared to normal ECU at slower speeds, but works best when you are pinning it... such as driving hard on road or on track. Stock, there is a little turbo lag but you learn to deal with it, use it to the best of the cars ability. The whole car is a something you come to absolutely love and enjoy learning, spending long drives and a lot of time learning how to drive it. When you get it right it is very rewarding, when you don't it bites back and your ego is knocked. But this car will continue to excite you. I'm sure the same is the case with this car + mods, it takes time to learn it and love it, and maybe not from just a 1 hour drive. If you want predictable, refined, a vehicle thay you can fully understand and appreciate and know everything about it from a 8 minute video by a car reviewer... You should likely get something like a Porsche...
Info Blast yeah I have to say I can see what Jay is getting at with some of his comments but I found it a bit irksome just how much he was desperate to hate this car. Things might have been different if he drove to its strengths.
How about the OEM clutch life with all these mods? Does it wear out if using Launch Control any more often than 1-2 times per year?
@@Gadne92.5 clutch will be fine, but as with anything it won't last forever especially if you are putting more power through the stock/oem clutch, which will reduce its life span. You can get reinforced clutch plates to help with this. Stock car you can do launch control all day every day.
Maybe if it had a decent manual transmission it would be better received.
@@inSUBout The clutch has proven to be durable and good for this hp and torque but at the limit. There is a Kevlar replacement clutch set available. There is no way you are going to do launch control all day every day....with a 4C or any car. You beat the living hell out of the trans and differential. I have a modded 4C but the car is NOT a drag car. I do have a friend that drag raced his highly modified 4C with similar power to this one...did a total of over 60 Launches before something finally went....think it was 3rd gear. He also tracked that car nearly every weekend in 3 seasons of the year. By the way.....the 4C even with ECU upgrade shifts fine....the race version from AW has been fine tuning the shifting....updates are done through the internet. And it was as mentioned in this video....a little bit too harsh which would not be good on track. That is not an issue with a 4C...only on this race ECU but it is being addressed by AW.
These were such a missed opportunity for Alfa to make a modern MR2. NSX or Elise.
Imagine it with a nice NA small displacement Alfa V6 and manual.
Better than a Mister2 thats for sure
Couldn't agree more, to look at it's such a pretty car
Na is just out of the question now a days and manuals just don't sell. As sad as it is and as much as I would love a manual 4c, they probabaly did what would sell best while meeting reqs
Edit: busso 3.2 manual mid engine though would have been dope even if it is a 40 y/o engine design
@@eskamobob8662 Yeah but you have to admit, no power steering and auto is a weird combo, you'd think if manual doesn't sell, then having no power steering wouldn't either.
@@bst857 that's a real fair point actualy. In fact, are there any other cars sold without PS at this point?
I own a 4C coupe’ black. And I tuned and making Lighter. 340 Hp and 964 kg with Fuel and all liquids. (I have all the original parts). This Car is Mega and Now is very good. Zero to 60 in 3.2 Sec, very stable and wirh and incredible sound. 4C has the best sound in World for a 4 Cylinders. People who are earing mine they saied what is this... my answer a 4 cylinders 1.7😁. And They are shocked! With manual gear boxes it woul be impossibile to drive, no power steering, no filters.. your hands has to stay on the steering always! The Car raving utra fast because is super lighter. It is like a motor sport bike. When You jump in you forget everything. Perfect a Super Anti stress for a big smile in your face!!
The Elise sounds better. The 4c sounds a bit flat especially with the auto box.
Mister Nobody 😂😂😂yeah right
no way...dudes,,,yo d manhole bro
What mods to get 340 hp?
4c needs a Ferrari 458 engine.
I have one with alfaworks road geometry conversation. And their stage 1 280 bhp conversation. It is more than enough power and the handling is amazing, anymore is overkill on a 4c, and to say they are over priced on second hand market... well you are getting something very exotic for about 35k..
I am also considering the stage 1.. sometimes I feel it needs more (generally above 160 km/h) sometimes I feel it has more than enough. I fear that tuning it will make me do even more (potentially risky) overtakes :D
@@ontheroadalfaandi9418 Well, I would never go back. I gained 48HP with the stage 1 conversion (also did a bit about the air intake). Went from 248HP to 296HP. It made the 4C as how it should be. In my opinion, then it's already supercar fast. Maybe not about 200km/u, but untill 200km/u it's amazing.
Of course, you get used to everything in the end, but especially untill 150km/u it's a complete hooligan.
I got a stock one, with the Akra exhaust which sounds miles better than this one. I'm shocked of how bad it sounds :( such a great sounding little car :(
The stock race is better than the upgraded ones.
Love the comparative 4C videos, Jay ~ stock through two different levels of modification. Earned you another subscriber!
Seems better suited to a track day than a busy road review
Interesting... I had a 4C Spider for 3 years and really enjoyed it. Other people I know with the car have modded them- I agree that the stock suspension needs some tweaking, but coming from an NA Elise S2, it had plenty of power and the trans was as good as I could’ve hoped for (considering it wasn’t a manual). A CAI will make it “woosh” like this one, but I think that would get old before long. I like all the crazy noises it makes stock (had the optional race exhaust), is that so wrong???
100k+ subs?! Didn't notice sadly, but well done!
Can’t wait for the A110 review.
I'm thinking of one of these as a toy. Stunning thing
I highly recommend that you should buy one. driving it never gets old :)
Bought two last year. Finally gotten used to them and don’t bust out laughing on every launch. Two of them were half the price of one Ferrari.
Did you find out about the gearbox (remapped or otherwise)?
I agree about the fabric seats😀you do like you were having fun
Could you try get your hands on some form of MG TF? Would love a decent review on one!
I have the AW race ecu and it transformed the car for me but the gear changes did suffer slightly. I believe future firmware updates will address this.
Sounds awesome 👌
Never thought you'd bring it back
Mine is stock, daily driving. But I think it's more than enough power. But suspicion wise, I am open for a change lol.
Can somebody add a power steering kit on that car?
@@shravanav993 I am not sure. Sorry could not answer the question, but let me add.
I'm also not sure why people are hating the manual steering.
It's part of its soul.
it's difficult, I'm not the best with the it. Hard to go above certain speed on rough roads with it manual steer. But for sure it is worth a lot of fun and spirit. The car as a whole, making the fun factor with low to moderate speeds. With vague steering, people started to search for faster and high g-lateral numbers to have fun. With this car you don't need them. (Yet you still have raipd acceleration and carbon chassis leading to amazing g-lateral numbers)
I imagine it as the incarnation of 60s super cars with new mechanical technology.
@@shravanav993 I have one...why the hell would you want power steering or power brakes on this light car.....it is light and you would loose all the "feel". You can know the sex of the roadkill you drive over this one has so much feedback.
@@shravanav993
You could add an electric motor to the steering ,lots of classics have it you can turn it on or off at will.
@@iMANTlS very much agree :)
Totally disagree with the throwing you into the green. Had one fir a few days and threw it round b roads and was epic. Super quick and always knew what it was doing. Certainly an enthusiasts car as very hard core. My type of car
I think the cruiser drivers don’t really know how to drive. They copy other TH-camrs reviewer comments as they are not experienced.
Love this sound, what a great ride.
Always wondered how a modified version would drive being such a light car
i have one. Doing a lot: light pulleys, reinforced clutch, big brakes and pads, downpipe 200 cells cat, titanium exhaust, bigger intercooler (with carbon fiber "breech"), and all the pipes in aluminium, camshafts, new turbo, bigger injectors and obviously new maps on gcu and for engine, and some even for camber and caster.
this the kinda guy who applauds a Prius on its handling.
I picked up a 4C coupe this past weekend with an Alfaworks Stage 1 tune; I already want more power, but I don't want the existing fun turbo noises to change!
U think it makes it more fun to drive than 718 cayman s? Since it weights 500 pounds less
@@shelbyhaiketic4212 I have not driven a 718 Cayman S but I will say I traded my 997.1 911 Carrera S for the 4C and have barely looked back! The Cayman S will be a far more usable car than the 4C but the 4C will feel more special!
Absolutely. This car will be worth over $100K in the years to come. It can to the Nurburgring in the low 7's. This car can easily make short work of a 911 all day.
Probably not a gt3rs
I wonder if you can do a Busso conversion in one of these, surely this would make this the perfect car??
o wow, only if you own 5 :d I wouldn't there for the first 4, maybe I would do it to the 5th. They are still so special, even in stock form :)
I have never seen such a basic 4C. No spoiler, fabric seats, no cruise control, etc.
I can't get past the gearbox's influence on the exhaust note. I'm definitely going to have to ween myself of car as all this auto and DCT gearbox usage in my mind turns nice cars into appliances.
Yeah, and they're great for a daily driver, maybe great for drag runs, fast 0-60 etc... or just making driving fast easier. But for a back road blast it takes the fun out of it for me.
Any question of choosing between DCT or a traditional stick.....just drive a current car with a good DCT. You will quickly see the advantage. Have had many cars with stick shift including a SCCA race car. DCT is amazing. There are some nice things about old technology.....but there are good reasons why people like technology...otherwise you would still have crank start, mechanical drum brakes, etc.
@@RobertKarlBerta I have had a current car with DCT and there was nothing wrong with its operation, its lightning quick. No doubt it has the advantage. But I'm talking about fun, and I just think DCTs are less fun. You mentioned brakes - there is no skill or interactive difference with drum vs disc brakes, you press the pedal, and discs are better at stopping, end of story. But with DCT vs manual, there is a satisfaction to be had from it which is almost completely lost in a DCT, in my opinion. If you take your reasoning to its conclusion, you'll be happiest with a self driving car that can drive faster and better than any human, and you can just sit there as a passenger. When it comes to fun, there is a sweet spot between the old technology and the new, and I think DCT brings cars outside of that sweet spot. Manual involves you in the process, DCT removes you from it. Its why tennis rackets aren't huge, it'd be boring to play if the size of the racket meant you didn't have to concentrate, it'd be pointless to play.
@@bst857 Peoples are always arguing about DCT -boxes being fast and easy. Everyone seems to forget the connection and pure driving pleasure which only comes with manual gear changes, heel 'n toeing by YOURSELF. During day-to-day driving or even track days the factory claimed acceleration or any other performance numbers doesn't mean *shite* as 99,9% of the drivers, regardless the car, aren't gonna achieve similar laptimes than professional factory test drivers. Thus, for the sheer pleasure of it, manual is always better.
True enthusiasts will know - ppls who think more speed and more power = better, ever wont...
@@bst857 Can't agree with you.....I raced for years in SCCA and can do a mean heel and toe but I would be the last one to say a DCT can't be just as fun and it is certainly faster. And on track you still shift the gears manually....just no clutch involved. There is a reason why all F1 cars, LeMans prototypes, etc. use DCT. Even those that use old style manuals in racing now use sequential shifters.
The interior is no worse than a Lotus Evora and that costs 90k.....it's still gopping though
The North American versions of the 4C came with a full leather interior with contrast stitching plus an optional carbon fibre package which makes the interior feel as special as the rest of the car. It's too bad the Brit/Euro versions didn't get the same treatment.
The howl during acceleration is indeed terrifying.
Merc A classes (W176) with DCT's will do that Slap in the back on each change if you engage the secret mode. (Sport mode, stop start off, ESP off), all in that precise order. Even the Diesels will do it. My A200d 2.2 would spin up the tyres engaging 2nd. Rather snappy.
All of these automotive "journalists" whinging about the tramlining are wusses. If they would actually fully load the suspension in a corner they would see the brilliance in it.
So you fully load the suspension every corner then?
@@JayEmmOnCars nah, just most corners ;) Let me know if you ever come to Texas. Would love to take you on one of the "Britalia" drives we have. Alfas and Lotus tearing up the B roads, as you'd call them.
@@JayEmmOnCars 😉 th-cam.com/video/or-8Ghvt3ys/w-d-xo.html
Can you get a manual aftermarket conversion🤔 that would be good.
I was so upset that I couldn’t get a manual with mine. But after having it for 6 months or so I can say I’d have no interest in a manual with this car. The DCT is what it needs.
@@mitchellkohrmann Agreed. A manual trans would be a very poor match indeed to the 4C's feisty turbo-four, "a wop engine", Sergio Marchionne called it.
It's really hard to understand how those people running FCA think. They'll approve a project to build a whole new sports car with a bespoke carbon fiber chassis, take two years to set it all up before production starts, and then when it's time to put some interior trim on it and tune up the suspension and whatnot they just go "eh, it's good enough".
Great honest review as always.
Nice in black...!!!
I do like these, am a sucker for an Alfa. Did play with the idea of one but too pricey as just a toy for me.
Prices in UK for RHD are stupid compared to the LHD ones. 20k difference...you are lucky if you live in the uk to have these for 30k
I might be an idiot but I am considering to daily this car 😂
@@tootalltodrive Get an original evora instead; much better for that. I do 12K per year in mine.
@@tootalltodrive it already is my dream car no matter what anybody says. Probably goes better in european roads than on bumpy british ones...I would daily it too no doubt or at least drive it everyday as a therapy...
Francisco Cabrera Brito by the way I am also 2m 😂
You’ve been watching too much Jeremy Clarkson 🤪
Now sir, i Will admit i have not seen, the video per writing this down, please hear me out. Imagine now that alfa had gone too Honda and put that k24 engine in it. That would have been amazing
I would have mine in the Alfa red please.
I would only change the steering geometry, interior design, seats and lights. Thats the only thing that needs changing for road use. Its perfect for the track though
Looks like its a tight squeeze 😂
Exactly! it's a sports car with no creature comforts. Its HARDCORE. Not for Bitches and Hoe, get it if you looking for an affordable italian sports car. This 4 cylinder engine puts out HP
The car sounds broken. Not normal noises to be coming from a turbo.
Very critical review, perhaps shortsighted in the fact the owner has one of the most magnificent modifies machines ever created… great video, if only there was less talking more of the stunning 4C 😆 In all seriousness good video, however I feel you needed more time with the car 🚘
He's a Lotus Laddie, not an Alfista.
I wish it came with a 6spd manual :(
never understand why people run road cars with a race set up in Britain. we have very uneven roads and the lack of suspension travel just makes your car handle worse for the road surfaces. we dont have enough smooth big roads to enjoy that type of setup. that's why a subaru sti is faster than most cars down a British b road..... suspension travel......
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I often wonder what people who do those own as a car and what are their driving qualifications - former F-1 I don;t think !
Two feet, two hands, two eyes, one brain. All you need.
Wonderful in many ways, but too much of an automotive hair-shirt for me. Good review!
I recommend Alfa to sell the 4c as a kit car, leave buyers to choose their own engine and gearbox.
good one. although this engine has a lot of character too :)
The real question, this or an exige/evora?
How about someone who had both Exige and 4C both modded....my neighbor and fellow 4C owner.....the 4C is the better car.
this :D
Of all the diabolically bad youtube car reviewers, this must be the worst.
So this or the ALPINE 110 ??? And or same question in relation to the standard stock 4C ?
Rigged game of Buckaroo......Fantastic!
It needs a manual
This guy: Accelertates
Tyres: Ok my job here has ended, I'm out
I love the look of the 4c and the idea of what they were trying to achieve but they missed it so badly. They should have put a standard 6 speed with the engine sitting the proper direction. I'm not sure what they did to the engine but it sounds worse than a Yugo. 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Manual with this kind of steering is impossibile to manage. You will kill yours self at the first hole. This car is very sensible. Dry dual clutch is good in manual. In automatic nope. But it is amazing going up and down with this baby after the tuning. About sound check the video of Scara with Titanium exhaust. Sound is really really good. And the microphone don’t keep it super well because is very deep.
I think what you are describing is a better looking Porsche. If you want a Porsche, buy a Porsche. The 4C is an Alfa. No other manufacturer has built a car quite like the 4C. It is a rather unique car, "a mini supercar for the masses", as one reviewer aptly called it.
Sounds like the car had a modified air intake too?
It did....I have a 4C but not a fan of that particular intake....too loud and irritating to the driver and passenger on a longer trip.
@@RobertKarlBerta EC V2?
It sounds horrible like metal on metal screeching like the turbo blades are scraping the housing on full boost.
Sooo you don't like it then?
Why isn't this a manual?
Alfa never offered the 4C with a manual.
Tragic it really should have had a manual option
All Alfa's should have manual transmission.
If you drive a real DCT you will see why that is pretty much the standard now. Ferrari was talked into having a manual option for the 458 and it cost them big bucks. They sold two cars with that manual. I have owned tons of manual shift cars including a SCCA race car. But my 4C is amazing.....those who think it is simply a 6 speed slush box haven't driven one. Perfect rpm matching up and down shifts, 130ms shifts, and perfect matching to engine torque shift points. The 4C is a hard core drivers car....not a GT. Only the Lotus Exige and Alpine 110 are of similar design. Sadly that type of car is going away as sports cars become more and more bloated rolling sofas with lots of cup holders. Have had my 4C LE for 5 years....bullet proof on track and reliable. I like the interior.....mine is the leather dash and door cards and other upscale options. The instruments and controls are well laid out for driving. Lots of fan boys of other brands who haven't driven one....or if they did they didn't use it in the environment where it excels....tight twisties. It is a completely impractical car...except for putting one hell of a smile on your face.
@@RobertKarlBerta you say 130ms shift like that makes a difference to 99% of people who drive. A true drivers car will always be a manual.
I get the sense you were forced to do this review against your will hahaha
Is it really that bad? like, it looks like it's actually pretty good 🤔
It is VERY good....5 years on mine and loving it still. They are very reliable and bullet proof on track....just a few simple mods take it to the next level.
@@RobertKarlBerta really reliable? You never been stranded in the middle of nowhere?
@@93mlo Nope...never been stranded not in the 5 years with the 4C or over 40 years in my 69 Spider. What do you own that is so reliable 😂
@@RobertKarlBerta ND mx5 2019 my only car since I'm single and don't want kids , wife etc
From a sexy car to a sexy supercar 😘
imagine an 8500rpm 2L V6 and manual gated box
Wow...
So I'm guessing that at 6'6" I'm not fitting in one of those!
I am 6ft 7 and about to test one on Thursday will probably post a video about it too!
I tested one the other day and I defo don’t fit! Very sad day, as it is my dream car, but no way could I drive it. Couldn’t get my keens below the dash or anything...
6’1” so I can’t really talk. But I have loads of head room in mine. Don’t forget that the seats are fixed. But if you remove them you can adjust them with the side screws and gain a few inches of room from factory. The steering wheel can also take shims to move it up.
@@mitchellkohrmann have you done this to yours? I would buy one in a heartbeat if I fit 🤞
@@tootalltodrive I have. It’s honestly a must do and it’s super simple. I went from barely being able to fit at my height to having about 4 inches of head room and 5 -6 inches of leg room. It’s also my favorite all around car out of many supercars I’ve owned. Super theatrical.
every car needs an offended witch following along behind .
Or two.
Ace vid as ever....been in one, looked nice, horrid interior and an utter dog to drive imho and I found it with a lack of grunt....and way too wide and impractical even as a two seater coupe... ...and driven in anger against one in my twenty year old fiat coupe and not only blitzed it but got way more looks with a better sound hahahaha....each to their own though as got to love Alfas....even when too flawed....better than a boring suv!✌️
These were beautiful looking cars and should have been a real hit. The high price and cheap interior put me off. I could live with the engine and I could accept the interior but paying that much for something that felt like a Fiat Punto inside was ridiculous regardless of the external style. For all this looked much nicer than a Boxster or Cayman it was nowhere near as good and wasn't cheap.
@Antonio Farina i think one of the problems for this car in the end was that it was neither a pared down track car nor a daily driver, being compromised in both respects. Porsche biased the Boxster to practical daily use, cars like the Lotus Exige make few compromises to daily use but are very performance focused, the 4C seemed to be somewhere in between. Even in a pared down track car people tend to have certain expectations for perceived quality at this price point. Basic and no frills is not the same as cheap feeling. Mazda can make a very pleasant interior for the much cheaper MX5.
The North American version of the 4C has a very nice interior indeed, with stitched leather dash and door panels, a digital instrument display, Alcantara and leather seats and lashings of carbon fibre everywhere. As to build quality, I can only say it is outstanding. I've owned Fiats before, and my 4C is in another league altogether. It's virtually hand assembled by Maserati, and the care taken in construction shows.
So not gonna be able to sell it now! Yikes
Before complaining about how the 4c drives, you should drive it how is supposed to be driven: Hard.
Driving this car as you are going to the grocery store and complaining about the noise and the gearbox, is well, a non sense. This is NOT what this car was built for.
Also complaining about the interior, who fu@@ing care so much about the interior in a car that is all driven focused?
Does the Elise or the Exige (or even the Evora) have a nice interior?
Absolutely no, and no one cares because it's not that the reason you buy these types of vehicles for.
Still that shirt.... Good review though
Yes, but just a bit...
Of course, one should mod one's 4C with a Lamborghini v10 and a pair of turbos.
Of course! [;>)
Can see why Stef got rid really. Not all cars are as good as the elise
Oh, please.
@@davidturgeon2087 thanks 😆
@@jasonboyle7203 The Elise is a kit car in comparison.
Sounds terrible.
That exhaust sound is unfortunate
Weight limit exceeded!
Danger to manifold
@@JayEmmOnCars just teasing, mate.
Or manifold dangers!@@JayEmmOnCars
The British will always hate the 4c for being a prettier and meaner Lotus. As a mater of fact all the American journalists that have negative reviews of the 4c are Lotus owners. Ironic
All that means is that they understand how a car like this SHOULD be executed. It's a prettier and WORSE Lotus, that simple
One man's opinion. There are many who own both and would disagree.@@JayEmmOnCars
Can't trust the opinion of a man who wears a shirt like that in public.
I'm not afraid to wear what I want, and I am not afraid to say what I want
@@JayEmmOnCars Take a joke, you idiot.
@@TAG247 LOL...
No one said you weren't.@@JayEmmOnCars
No one has asked the most important question. How long after having his car slated like this did it take for the owner to commit suicide?
sell it and buy an Ultima Gtr :)
Not the GTR, the new RS! Looks so much nicer. And I adored the GTR
@MunroM84 It is a road car
For the money 4C + Upgrading... buy a EXIGE V6 instead.
It´s just better.
Exactly. Why even bother doing the upgrades. Just get the better package all together.
Not available in the US.....and it is at least double the price over a 4C. I like the Exige Cup cars but they aren't price competitive with a Porsche and the Porsche is faster and a better car (and I am not a Porsche fan).
The V6 Exige is quicker than the Cayman GT4. The Elise handles a lot better than the 4c and its a manual (and cheaper).
Elise it's a true drivers car (chassis wise). The 4C never convince.
The 4C IS nice, but it needs work to fix the handling. But even then the stock Elise is better. It's much sturdier on the road and isn't at all twitchy like the 4C.
This guy is trying way too hard. 😏
It weighs about 850 kilos , isn’t it dangerous to have 340 hp on a light weight cutie
Btw love Alfa’s from child hood ;)
I'm still shook you can't get a manual 4C. Unforgivable
If you drove one you would probably see why. The TCT is well matched to the engine.
it looks like a baby Bugatti Veyron from the front,,,
Just get an Exige V6.
it sounds horrible, like a broken vacuum cleaner
It is the recording mike on the camera....they have a really good sound.
@@RobertKarlBerta you're telling me that the mic which works fine for every other car had an off day? come on buddy
@@Hali88 I think he's a 4C owner ;-)
Ross Tarran so he would know better right? the car displayed (very poorly) in this video has an aftermakrket exhaust and it does sound like shit compared to the original one
@@South4153 Hey I was agreeing with Hali, and you!
I am Not a fan of these and they are super expensive
„super expensive“ show me another car with a carbon monocoque for such a price🤡
Yet you are a fan of the Nissan 350Z? GTFO my face...
Then don't buy one! Easy.
Alfa 4C is a neat little car but quite expensive and unreliable. Few dealers to repair. I'm afraid they may fail in US as they did last time.
Nope. They are actually very reliable. But nice try. ;-) Stick with the BIMMER.
In several owner surveys of all makes, the 4C was the first non Japanese car for least issues and reliability in three years of ownership. In two of the them they beat out Honda and all of the Merc, Porsche, BMW, Jag, were far down the list. Mine is 5 years old and no issues and bullet proof on track.
Looks like the cars ma be better than I heard.
Unreliable? You own one? I do and haven't had a single issue in 3 years and I drive it hard.
I have to say I never liked the 4C or the 8C the stubby dimensions just didn't work. The 8C did sound pretty good but whatever has been done to this 4C sounds horrific. I think both were way over priced, like you for the kind of money you were asked for these I would have expected a much better interior.
The 8C was a masterpiece, one of the most timeless cars ever made. The 4C is just a pile of crap
Asif Noaman you drive an opel and call a 4c crap🤡🤡🤡🤡
@@South4153 yeah and its faster 😁 now Piss off and drive your Prius
Asif Noaman i‘d rather have a prius than an opel😂 but i‘m happy with my 4c and my other two cars🤣✌🏽
@@South4153 nah, you're just one of those badge haters. You look at a logo and think that they're shit just because they dont make premium cars. Opel and Vauxhall have made amazing cars that have had excellent reviews from well known car magazines and automotive journalists such as the Opel Omega EVO 500, Manta GTE, VX220, Vauxhall Lotus Carlton (Fastest saloon for 10 years in a row), Opel GT, Vectra VXR, Astra H/J VXR and many more. At least they are more reliable, Tuneable and more unique than any shitty Alfa. Only the 155, 156 GTA, 8C, 33 Stradale and Gulia GTAM take my heart
I have never got this car..It seems you are paying a lot for a carbon tub, and a tiny engine, and poor interior.If the car was not right as standard it defo wont be right modifying...Better cars at this price point
But you aren't getting a carbon tub anywhere else, and interior isn't as much poor as it is light.
I'm not saying you should change your opinion, if you don't like the car it's fine but there's something really cool about a lightweight sports car, 250hp~ is plenty when it weighs in at less than a tonne. You need to drive one to see 😊 Plus it helps that it makes silly noises and in most people's eyes it looks very pretty too.
@@owenwales4328 I have driven one on the public roads..and to be honest it scared the pants off me hahaha..You are right they do look cool and pretty,But i think if i wanted a lightweight car i would look for something else..But hey that is my humble opinion..If we were all the same,the world would be boring
@@TheLaXandro I bet even the carbon tub will rust now its on an Alpha hahaha
For the same cost in the UK (£35,000) what would you rather have that delivers a similar experience (but better)
Never liked the 4C
It never liked you either.
@@hankwilliams5622 let it be my biggest lost
I hear the 4C never liked you, so that's fair.
@@davidturgeon2087 who designed it actually didn't liked it
@@andreiarama8745 I guess there's a meaning in there somewhere, but darned if I can find it.
That car sounds as bad as it looks.
have you seen your face?
@@South4153 - Yes.
Ask me another stupid question.