Because pros in all racing categories put sequentials nowadays because it's just superior in every way ;) To be clear, I would LOVE a pro line H pattern shifter, but I'm not too upset because it's a 2 In 1 which is awesome! They better bring an H pattern pro line, which they hinted they would.
@@5tig_I took a test drive for a few days on a fanatec 8nm and shipping to Puerto Rico was the same price has the 11nm Logitech went Logitech and for me it a better then the 8nm for the same price because of shipping to where I am and at the time I was looking to upgrade was when fanatec had crap service and crap delivery a buddy order the fanatec becuse of fan base and my Logitech got home in 8 days is fanatec he cancelled after 4 moth wait went logi and now he says he never going back
Would love 3d printed rims for the orginal wheel. The lack of paddles on the new rim, kind of killed the hype for me. They should also made the rims for people who got the orginal wheel 😢already
Finally....it took so long I literally took a circular saw to my D shaped rim and turned it into a track/gt wheel by slicing off the middle 10 or so inches....then wrapped the entire wheel a 1/8 inch neoprene layer with racket tape as the final layer thickening the rim and making it less rock hard....i actually love it now
Had the G-Pro set for 18 months now, use it between 8-20 hours a week and it’s held up perfectly fine. Happy to have some nice add on peripheral options available to pair with my Logitech edition Playseat Trophy. Thanks will for giving another great in depth review. lol at Fanatec and all its issues. Seeing this all go down now and my many friends horror stories has reaffirmed my choice going with Logitech
im so happy with the adapter and its price.. im not bothered about true force and on pc the only eco system i care about is wheels.. this adapter opens the door to the entire sim racing wheel market.. gonna have to try and not get carried away
i have fanatec and have had 0 issues. for the price of the logitech g pro, i would go simagic and have a way better wheelbase and way better ecosystem.
@@kartzzy6101 I was debating on that one but if I remember correctly I went with the simagic for the ease of switching. Haven’t heard much negative for the SHH so yes, another great option
@@kartzzy6101you're complaining because you think it's too cheap? Price wise??? Dude, this stuff doesn't need to be Motorsports grade stuff. At the end of the day it's a glorified game controller. Logitech stuff is foolproof. And I'm definitely NOT going balls deep like most of these nuts spending multiple thousands of dollars to post digital lap times.
Man, i do not know. Pricewise, fanatec, asetek or simagic are better choices. I know all the drama around fanatec but the new club Sport dd is miles away from the Logitech pro Wheel.
Many people are saying that Logitech’s Pro Wheel and Pedals are expensive. First you need to make sure you are comparing like products. What I mean is if you look at Fanatec and you were to compare GT DD pro (5NM) to Logitech Pro (11NM), the Fanatec is cheaper but also not as strong and lacks TrueForce. So it’s not a 1 to 1 comparison. The same would apply if you were to compare the GT DD pro (8NM) to the Logitech Pro, and that still doesn’t account for the difference in pedals (CSL vs Log Pro pedals). Now, if you were to compare more alike products like the Fanatec GT DD extreme or Clubsport Racing Wheel F1 (both DD+ wheelbase) to the Logitech Pro wheel base you would have a more fair comparison. Fanatec Extreme is 15Nm compared to the Logitech 11Nm, Extreme wheel is plastic, and flimsy compared to the Pro wheel, and Extreme is $1,300 compared to Log Pro $1,000. Well, that’s only the wheel and base, not pedals. If you were to factor pedals into the mix the Fanatec V3 pedals are slightly better than Logitech Pro Pedals, but are also $400, whereas Logi Pro pedals are $350. So now you have a complete setup compared to a complete setup, totaling Fantac $1,700 to Logitech $1350, now add in that Logitech often has a 15% discount code knocking theirs down to $1,150. You have fanatic at $1,700 for a wheelbase that’s 15NM, plastic wheel, FullForce (that’s doesn’t currently work), and V3 pedals (which are very nice). Compared to Logitech Pro wheelbase that’s 11Nm, extremely nice wheel (although more options earlier would have been nice), TrueForce (that works with 19 different titles), and Pro pedals (almost as good as V3s) for $1,150. Not sure if we compare apples to apples if Logitech is more expensive really. Add in Fanatec’s shifter at $260, to the Logitech’s shifter now at $150 and still a comparable setup is still cheaper with Logitech. I’m not sure if many people know they can use a 15% code to reduce the cost and make Logitech comparisons to other brands much better. I don’t know Moza’s lineup well enough to compare apples to apples to be fair. However, just looking at their lineup: Moza R9 V2 base 9NM $400, Moza R12 base12NM $500, R3 Bundle 3.9 NM $400 without loadcell brake (compatible w/Xbox), Moza R5 5.5NM $510, and their R9 and R12 bundles range from $700-$1,200 The important note here is that many bundles are cheaper, but that’s also most likely because they are not licensed with Xbox and PS5. If they were licensed with a security chip their bundles would be much more expensive. So, comparing apples to apples Logitech may not seem so expensive compared to the other brands, and performance is amazing.
Is the quality product in the room with us? We got a hub that is almost identical to the one that already came with the pro wheel and some metal cutouts that have some rubber grips. Moza and 3rd parties do the same thing for half the price in a quarter of the time.
People are complaining about the long wait and underwhelming offering, rightfully so, but there's just nothing that comes close to the pro wheel to the price, trueforce really is a game changer. I can't claim to have tried out all the high end wheelbases but the Moza r12 doesn't even come close to logitech. Hopefully they keep coming out with new stuff but even without it the pro wheel is so good, they've really got us by the balls.
As an old man that has been strictly PlayStation in Gran Turismo for 25 years.. it wasn't exactly what I was hoping for. I was hoping for a gated H pattern manual. Might pick up one of those wheels, even though that was the least of my interest. You're still the absolute best at this brother! Keep it up
Well done Will and team! Boosted Media got the gold sticker from Logi to be the first to drop the new ecosystem additions! This is why I’m subscribed. Fully detailed and completely unbiased.
Too little, too late. They took so long that they lost me as a nearly 20-year Logitech Fanboy. I had logitech everything. Just bought a moza base 2 months ago, after nearly 15 years with my g27, it finally gave up on me. I wanted to stay with Logitech, as my g27 treated me very well for a loooooong time. but they were just too slow moving. I have zero interest in flat bottom wheels. In the time that it took them to put out a shifter, a wheel plate and some wheels. Moza has put out half a dozen different bases countless peripherals and have even gotten into flight sim. My moneys gone to the company that is putting in effort
I'm no Logitech fanboy (currently on an older Thrustmaster belt-driven, considering DD options and honestly leaning towards Moza) but I will say Logitech has so many other products they need to attend to, like 100's of models of mice, keyboards, headsets, webcams, etc. Their attention is already spread too thin, while Moza has the time to put all these sim racing/flight options out because its the only market they're in. That being said, which Moza base did you end up with? I'm definitely ready for the DD upgrade 😆
@@duquetteroxxI grabbed the r9 and a Logitech hub to reuse my old modded pedals and shifter for now. As the SRP pedals seem terrible and the CRPS were overpriced to me if I'm being honest. Contemplating if I another company's pedals, or do a hydraulic upgrade to my Logitech pedals. I was excited for the crp2s, but the inverted option with a clutch pedal is $1,000 Canadian before taxes 😣 But being as large of a company as Logitech is, there's no reason that they cannot dedicate a team solely to the Sim racing division.
I've had my dd pro for two years and it is excellent. Still perfect feel, strength, no clipping, and looks brand new. My first wheel base had a grindy roller button when I got it, complained about it in logitech help chat and they literally overnighted a new hub and just let me keep the original. My fanatec shitshifter has been RMA'd three times and twice they didn't even open the box (with literal months between getting it back) I shipped it in and just sent it back. I've had better customer service from pimps than fanatec.
In what circumstances do you need a handbrake but not also a sequential shifter at the same time? I don’t see how this being a handbrake would ever be useful unless you bought two of them, but at that point they may as well be separate products.
Not what I was expecting I thought they were going to take their time and then release some sharp peripherals to build their ecosystem. That wheel looks almost identical to the original wheel but with a couple extra buttons. No H-pattern shifter only an e- break that can also be used as a sequential shifter. It’s like they’re selling people the same stuff twice and in the case of the shifter/E brake literally. I like Logitech, my first wheel was a G923, which was their first wheel with true force and even though it’s not as pronounced as it is on the Gpro, it definitely adds something. When I upgraded, I went with the R12 because of the ecosystem. and after this release, I don’t regret it.
Ive had my gpro base for over a year now and love it. Came from an Accuforce v2. So glad they made this adapter so we can run larger diameter wheels for nascar/rally. Appreciate the review!
Gotta thank MOZA for shaking shit up and not letting off the gas, they've pretty much made the old guards lifting and coasting a financially terrible decision even on the entry level side.
too little too late on Logitech when i purchased my gpro pedals i fell in love with the product and was desperate for more ,i ran those pedals with my g920 for a year hoping new wheels and a shifter would come to market for the pro line ...... now i have a full moza kit and even though i am extremely happy with my R9 i would of preferred to stay in the logitech eco system
Really excited about this, still waiting to pull the trigger on this wheel until my financial situation allows it but definitely kick starting the excitement again 😁
The funniest slap in the face about Logitech's DD wheelbase... If you think about it. They are using a quick release that seems to be a well designed version of Fanatec's QR1. And there is absolutely no talk of the quick release being sub standard. 😂😂😂
@@CrazyChiefXxXMoza took the spotlight because they copied all of Fanatec’s technology using questionable business practices. If you have to support a Chinese company, at least pick the one playing fair, Simagic.
@@CrazyChiefXxXI would say Logitech already lost, it took them way too long, everybody picked Fanatec, or Moza meanwhile and when Logitech finally released something Fanatec already sorted out the insolvency and with Corsair it probably be stronger than ever.
@@CrazyChiefXxX with the announcement of the acquisition by corsair, I'm pretty sure consumers will buy their products again. I myself am just waiting to see how it goes while I try to decide between the moza r12 and simagic alpha mini. The clubsport DD is back on the map for me
U do a absolutely great job on these review videos. Second to none. Long and super detailed as a review should be. I run a DD plus Extreme, and v3s, on gt7. Awesome logitech has joined they rest of the crowd finally.
As a Logitech pro owner… this basically just finally makes me feel confident that i might just own this wheel for the next 20 years or so as long as it works… and with it being Logitech, I really think it will
I am still hoping that they will have more impressive items to show off at ADAC (USE THE MCLAREN PARTNERSHIP!!! LOGITECH HAS BEEN PARTNERED WITH MCLAREN FOR FORZA CHALLENGE FOR HOW LONG?!!). The RS hub seems like its supposed to be an "accessible" way to get a new rim and the better rims will be more expensive.
Having owned a Logitech G Pro wheel and pedals for a few months now, I'm happy to say that I'm very confident in recommending this wheel if you are on a desk setup like me. Very few complaints, overall an amazing wheel and pedal combo. Very happy with my purchase!
So the RS Hub seems to lack the clutch paddles. Seems like a major oversight to either not include a version with them for more cash or make the rims compatible with orginal wheel. Now I wheel like the original wheel is useless, I would prefer clutch paddles for GT or F1 racing. Meanwhile the orginal wheel is better suited for Rally and less suited than Track Wheel with GT racing. Also there is no F1 rim! People would still buy the Hub, if they plan to use more than 1 rim, just for convenience. I know that I did, I do play a lot of Rally, GT, F1 and some drifting, so not going to be fiddling with screws everytime I swap from Rally to F1. So new Hub was mandatory anyway for new rim. But now I don’t get clutch paddles for F1 or GT games… I would suggest Logitech to make another proper hub just with paddles. Make it 50-100€ more and people would still buy it. Also make a F1 rim for it.
It's kind of wild that after two years, these are the only accessories that we're getting. The G Pro wheel and pedals are a tremendous bit of kit, but the Logitech ecosystem is being held back by sheer incompetence from the company itself. If you're a predominantly console user, then there's zero reason to opt for Logitech over Fanatec. Obviously if you're a PC user then you're probably looking at any number of better options already.
I disagree. Takes time to make quality products and I’m glad Logitech isn’t just throwing stuff out there as fast as possible like some other companies.
I think this is the first video on this. I've been holding out on taking the G PRO plunge but after a year on my first wheel, a G923 I'm feeling anxious now. Thanks for this
When I use a sequential, I also use my handbrake. This seems an expensive way to have both. Fanatec having a sequential and H pattern combined seems the more sensible decision.
they could simply add console support to the universal hub by having you wire a controller to one of the USB ports then allows you to use the controller in wired mode via the wheel base, that way you have acsess to the buttons needed to activate it on console, like one of the Universal USB wheel adapters you can buy to add console compatibility to any wheel base.
I mean, the Moza R3 is probably cheapest DD you can get right now... but that's not Logitech & I doubt they will come out with something this low power, not anytime soon at least
I’ve had a G25 for many years. It held up well. Still is working with windows 11 with some work. Nice to see Logitech is finally stepping up their sim racing setups. Might have to finally upgrade my setup 😂.
I’ve just ordered the Xbox wheel hub and the round wheel and the formula wheel from the UK store. This is great as I have the PlayStation wheelbase and will now be able to use it on my Xbox as well. The Handbrake/shifter is up for preorder and is due on the 30th September so I’ll be ordering that nearer the time. Thank you Logitech for finally providing this support…better late than never. 🙏
Really like the looks of it. But the RS Hub is a downgrade compared to original wheel. So I decided to cancel the Hub after initial hype in my mind settled down. Until we get more Rims for it, would like a 300-320mm round wheel and 280-290 F1 wheel.
we wanted a pro shifter, and logitech delivering a sequential shifter is just a slap to all the people waiting for a pro H-pattern shifter. I mean, Fanatec did a clever thing (RIP) but come on... I'm beginning to think that the H pattern will never come to fruition...
So happy to see this , still somewhat new into the sim world, absolutely love the G Pro setup onto Next Level rig , just purchased 2 shifters to start just sad have to wait till mid October for shipment. Really enjoy the original wheel but imagine I'll snag the new one strictly for GT7 with the VR. Glad I came across your videos, just wish it was a few weeks back definitely would have used your codes in support but started today with the shifters🍻
People try to defend Logitech by saying it takes time to bring forth new products. Logitech have had sim racing, and flight peripherals, for many moons, and they've had many moons to stay up to date, and release up to date sim equipment. But they chose not to because sim racing, and obviously flight, is not a priority to them. In the grand scheme of things, it's a small market and they don't care about the noise simmers make. Their attitude is one of, we make what we want, when we want, and if you don't like it, don't buy it. Those people that try to defend Logitech need to realize something, we age forwards, not backwards. People should not buy a wheel base, and then have to wait two years for proper steering wheels to come out. Not from a company that has been in the business a long time. And no matter how good the new shifter may be, it's still not what most people asked for, and of course, Logitech didn't listen. Why wait years for products to come out when other manufacturers already have it out. Like I said, we age forwards, not backwards. It will probably be another two years before an H shifter appears, and if it comes out much sooner, it will be a miracle. I would suggest that people who are already sim racing, look elsewhere for sim products, as it's not a priority for Logitech. Waiting years for products to come out, that should've been come out, is a waste of your time, and life. With that said, the new Logitech sim racing products seem good, but the wait times are horrendous.
If you want to know something is going to last 5 plus years you need to test it for at least one year if not more. I think they released as soon as they could while still ensuring quality.
I'm guess Logitech will later come out with a more expensive universal hub with buttons that has the same QR as the original wheel as the one shown it looks like they have made a cost cut version to get the price lower but it was nice how the original wheel QR worked as its so smooth and easy to take on and off.
Regarding the Fanatec QR1, I might have won the tolerance lottery, but my DD Pro shaft and 2 different QR1s have perfect fit. All 3 products have been purchased about 6-9 months apart, so definitely different batches.
@@bfstudios9163 I’ve waited a long time for an ecosystem from Logitech, but I’m not disappointed with the rally wheel and sequential shifter and handbrake product because I mostly do a lot of rally driving greetings from Canada by the way
As late as it might be, with Corsair(their direct competitor in peripherals) now owning Fanatec, this might actually be perfect timing for them to put some new competing products out.
I'm beginning to think I was right. Logitech likely saw what was about to happen to fanatec a long time ago, and we're waiting for the dust to settle before they did this. I joked about it dozens of times and people laughed at me. Here it is
you need a little metal plate to bring the handbrake more to the left so it will be offset compared to the shifter and then your are golden. Bringin it over just 2 inches would be enough
My problem with Logitech is the software not the hardware. They are great for getting in games as standard but I had an update to GHuB render my G920 useless for months which put me off their wheels. Went Asetek Forte in the end.
The one thing I don't see helpful on the new lay out having the push buttons on the knobs is that it is hard to push the center button. In comparison with the original layout, the knob on the right side facing straight to the front of you is actually easier to push than the one on the left that is in the way with the wheel. So the new wheels have both knobs pointing to the sides which will not be something I would buy because of the orientation of the knobs.
For me the launch wheel was perfect so wasn't as desperate as some for more options but have to say they look really good and dripping with quality just like the original .Shame about the analog paddles but tbh I've never used mine [tho I like having the choice ]....Shifter/hand brake looks like a real winner too and £159 is an amazing... price Hats off to Logitech.!
I have a g pro wheel I purchased not too long ago, I race 1-3 times a week mostly on PlayStation but a bit on pc. Pretty happy so far, would like to add a gt style wheel at some point, wish these hubs had the clutch paddles as I pulled the clutch pedal off my pedals because the clutch on the wheel worked so well for me in ACC. I'll wait until the momo wheel comes out to decide which get style wheel to get.
I love my GPro. I play on my pc Acc, iRacing and the TrueForce is amazing! I stopped playing AM2 because there’s no TF. It’s so boring without it. I just got the new next level formula lite pro so I was hoping Logitech to release a Gt wheel 🎉 🙌🏽
I kinda want their new shifter, but it just feels like there are still better-priced options. As someone who uses Logitech peripherals often, and quite like them, I'm glad to see them putting more "effort" perhaps into their sim racing ecosystem. IDK though; I'd like their software to be a bit better too. 😂
Thought is was April fools joke, nice to see. Although, looking at the Australian pricing compared to US makes me feel it still is a joke - for anyone unsure of conversion rates, US$129 is about AU$200 not the $300 we’re being charged.
I understand they took a long time but the complaints are unreal . Yes they took a long time but the rims are only $70 USD that’s insane !!! $70 for premium rims and then the hub is only $130 usd . I mean wow bravo .
At least it's momo quality. But after this much time these wheels should be much better new interesting designs but they are the same as 7 year old wheels. But luckily still a nice classic style I wouldn't mind using lol. Also luckily the wheelbase has such a fantastic feel. What's really funny and I don't get why but I swear everyone who uses logitech is faster haha.
What a shame that TS Track wheel would be a perfect stand alone rim for a Pokornyi button plate if the rim didn't have those cut outs which weaken's it structurally "as a stand alone rim" $69 is a fantastic price and a hard to find rim shape.
Logitech is a sponsor of McLaren F1 team. Why, why, why we didn't get a branded formula style wheel? It's a no brainer for me.
Maybe soon?
@@Frost-ux8jxit’s been two fucking years😂😂
@@DoubleKlutchRacing thats the joke😂😂😂😂
@@Frost-ux8jx I take it you’ve ran into LogiRich on Reddit?😂
@@DoubleKlutchRacing dude logi rich is the goat. Almost made me believe a year ago that stuff was coming soon indeed
I was surprised to find out that they don't have H-shifter at all at this time.
The only thing I waited for 😭
They have one
@@ChongolioPRnot a good one
@@ChongolioPR Yea, but it's not a part of their Pro line.
Because pros in all racing categories put sequentials nowadays because it's just superior in every way ;)
To be clear, I would LOVE a pro line H pattern shifter, but I'm not too upset because it's a 2 In 1 which is awesome! They better bring an H pattern pro line, which they hinted they would.
Got my orders in with Boosted discount. Lets goooo!
glad to see logitech is paying more attention to us
wanted a gt wheel so im more than happy with the adapter at good price.. i can actully get a GT NEO NOW YEAH
😂😂😂 awesome sarcasm man😂😂
see you again in 2 more years when they announce an h pattern
@@antjones2281 😂😂😂😂
It’s nice to see Logitech take sim racing more seriously. More competition the better.
Logitech need to step up their game, this took way too long
True, but if it sells for a long time like the previous models they are going to be fine
@@marc-andrehogue114 bold to assume people are even buying their overpriced base
@@5tig_I took a test drive for a few days on a fanatec 8nm and shipping to Puerto Rico was the same price has the 11nm Logitech went Logitech and for me it a better then the 8nm for the same price because of shipping to where I am and at the time I was looking to upgrade was when fanatec had crap service and crap delivery a buddy order the fanatec becuse of fan base and my Logitech got home in 8 days is fanatec he cancelled after 4 moth wait went logi and now he says he never going back
@@5tig_ Plenty of console players buying it.
@@5tig_lmao definitely not overpriced
Those hubs are not going to be a problem for those 3d printers out there .
Have been saying that with my guys by this time next year 3D printers will have at least a dozen models
Too bad the hub is garbage though. Two new buttons on the hub in two years.
Would love 3d printed rims for the orginal wheel.
The lack of paddles on the new rim, kind of killed the hype for me.
They should also made the rims for people who got the orginal wheel 😢already
@@DoubleKlutchRacing It's not even more buttons, it's just from analog shifters to just push buttons.
Finally....it took so long I literally took a circular saw to my D shaped rim and turned it into a track/gt wheel by slicing off the middle 10 or so inches....then wrapped the entire wheel a 1/8 inch neoprene layer with racket tape as the final layer thickening the rim and making it less rock hard....i actually love it now
you have any pics of it ?
@@TeinakiPalu yeah
We need proof
@@snoopy_peanuts_77post pics and do a tutorial on sim racing subreddit
Had the G-Pro set for 18 months now, use it between 8-20 hours a week and it’s held up perfectly fine. Happy to have some nice add on peripheral options available to pair with my Logitech edition Playseat Trophy.
Thanks will for giving another great in depth review.
lol at Fanatec and all its issues. Seeing this all go down now and my many friends horror stories has reaffirmed my choice going with Logitech
I’m with you. I got the same seat and love that this shifter was made to attach to the Trophy. Good times
im so happy with the adapter and its price.. im not bothered about true force and on pc the only eco system i care about is wheels.. this adapter opens the door to the entire sim racing wheel market.. gonna have to try and not get carried away
Same boat as you. Happy to see this add ons
Lol at Fanatec? Hmmm might have to get a CS DD now
i have fanatec and have had 0 issues. for the price of the logitech g pro, i would go simagic and have a way better wheelbase and way better ecosystem.
No H pattern? I swear that’s 80% of what I saw requested on Reddit.
Theyll probably get to that now
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@@snoopy_peanuts_77yep, here’s to another two year wait lol the simagic DX-8X is the shifter to go with
@DoubleKlutchRacing shh shifter is also awesome for those who have half that budget. All the same function, just with 3d printed body
@@kartzzy6101 I was debating on that one but if I remember correctly I went with the simagic for the ease of switching. Haven’t heard much negative for the SHH so yes, another great option
Logitech wasn't going to release anything half-ass. This stuff looks great. When I go DD, I'll be going back to Logitech.
Idk man, those button hubs looks pretty cheaply made and the price matches.
@@kartzzy6101you're complaining because you think it's too cheap? Price wise??? Dude, this stuff doesn't need to be Motorsports grade stuff. At the end of the day it's a glorified game controller. Logitech stuff is foolproof. And I'm definitely NOT going balls deep like most of these nuts spending multiple thousands of dollars to post digital lap times.
@@bobbyosborne2375 take it easy, that wheelbase is horribly overpriced.
Man, i do not know. Pricewise, fanatec, asetek or simagic are better choices. I know all the drama around fanatec but the new club Sport dd is miles away from the Logitech pro Wheel.
@@lucaslopes4257the clubsport dd looks like cheap plastic the G pro looks like it can be thrown off a building and dust it off
I'm actually quite impressed with what Logitech is doing here. Really bridging the gap between entry level and the high end. Credit to them.
the wheel base is $1000 dollars 😭 what bridge?
Many people are saying that Logitech’s Pro Wheel and Pedals are expensive. First you need to make sure you are comparing like products. What I mean is if you look at Fanatec and you were to compare GT DD pro (5NM) to Logitech Pro (11NM), the Fanatec is cheaper but also not as strong and lacks TrueForce. So it’s not a 1 to 1 comparison. The same would apply if you were to compare the GT DD pro (8NM) to the Logitech Pro, and that still doesn’t account for the difference in pedals (CSL vs Log Pro pedals). Now, if you were to compare more alike products like the Fanatec GT DD extreme or Clubsport Racing Wheel F1 (both DD+ wheelbase) to the Logitech Pro wheel base you would have a more fair comparison. Fanatec Extreme is 15Nm compared to the Logitech 11Nm, Extreme wheel is plastic, and flimsy compared to the Pro wheel, and Extreme is $1,300 compared to Log Pro $1,000. Well, that’s only the wheel and base, not pedals. If you were to factor pedals into the mix the Fanatec V3 pedals are slightly better than Logitech Pro Pedals, but are also $400, whereas Logi Pro pedals are $350. So now you have a complete setup compared to a complete setup, totaling Fantac $1,700 to Logitech $1350, now add in that Logitech often has a 15% discount code knocking theirs down to $1,150. You have fanatic at $1,700 for a wheelbase that’s 15NM, plastic wheel, FullForce (that’s doesn’t currently work), and V3 pedals (which are very nice). Compared to Logitech Pro wheelbase that’s 11Nm, extremely nice wheel (although more options earlier would have been nice), TrueForce (that works with 19 different titles), and Pro pedals (almost as good as V3s) for $1,150. Not sure if we compare apples to apples if Logitech is more expensive really. Add in Fanatec’s shifter at $260, to the Logitech’s shifter now at $150 and still a comparable setup is still cheaper with Logitech. I’m not sure if many people know they can use a 15% code to reduce the cost and make Logitech comparisons to other brands much better.
I don’t know Moza’s lineup well enough to compare apples to apples to be fair. However, just looking at their lineup: Moza R9 V2 base 9NM $400, Moza R12 base12NM $500, R3 Bundle 3.9 NM $400 without loadcell brake (compatible w/Xbox), Moza R5 5.5NM $510, and their R9 and R12 bundles range from $700-$1,200
The important note here is that many bundles are cheaper, but that’s also most likely because they are not licensed with Xbox and PS5. If they were licensed with a security chip their bundles would be much more expensive. So, comparing apples to apples Logitech may not seem so expensive compared to the other brands, and performance is amazing.
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Imagine living in a world where it doesn't matter what brand or device you buy they are ALL compatible on the PC, PS and XBOX. Ah, one can dream
I really hope people are finally starting to understand that it takes time to build quality products.
Lol def won't happen
Is the quality product in the room with us? We got a hub that is almost identical to the one that already came with the pro wheel and some metal cutouts that have some rubber grips. Moza and 3rd parties do the same thing for half the price in a quarter of the time.
People are complaining about the long wait and underwhelming offering, rightfully so, but there's just nothing that comes close to the pro wheel to the price, trueforce really is a game changer. I can't claim to have tried out all the high end wheelbases but the Moza r12 doesn't even come close to logitech. Hopefully they keep coming out with new stuff but even without it the pro wheel is so good, they've really got us by the balls.
Yea people sleep on the Pro...I've had mine almost two years now and it still impresses me
Already got my order in. Let's go!!
As an old man that has been strictly PlayStation in Gran Turismo for 25 years.. it wasn't exactly what I was hoping for. I was hoping for a gated H pattern manual. Might pick up one of those wheels, even though that was the least of my interest.
You're still the absolute best at this brother! Keep it up
I could see some small shop hobbyist making a machined new shifter rod to allow for standard aftermarket shift knobs.
Well done Will and team!
Boosted Media got the gold sticker from
Logi to be the first to drop the new ecosystem additions!
This is why I’m subscribed.
Fully detailed and completely unbiased.
Too little, too late. They took so long that they lost me as a nearly 20-year Logitech Fanboy. I had logitech everything. Just bought a moza base 2 months ago, after nearly 15 years with my g27, it finally gave up on me. I wanted to stay with Logitech, as my g27 treated me very well for a loooooong time. but they were just too slow moving. I have zero interest in flat bottom wheels. In the time that it took them to put out a shifter, a wheel plate and some wheels. Moza has put out half a dozen different bases countless peripherals and have even gotten into flight sim. My moneys gone to the company that is putting in effort
Yup I was strongly interested in Moza , but was waiting to upgrade my pc first , and now I'm going with logitech
I'm no Logitech fanboy (currently on an older Thrustmaster belt-driven, considering DD options and honestly leaning towards Moza) but I will say Logitech has so many other products they need to attend to, like 100's of models of mice, keyboards, headsets, webcams, etc. Their attention is already spread too thin, while Moza has the time to put all these sim racing/flight options out because its the only market they're in.
That being said, which Moza base did you end up with? I'm definitely ready for the DD upgrade 😆
@@michaelbolton7477Why? The Logitech stuff still looks crap. Moza, simagic, asetek are all better options
@@duquetteroxxI grabbed the r9 and a Logitech hub to reuse my old modded pedals and shifter for now. As the SRP pedals seem terrible and the CRPS were overpriced to me if I'm being honest. Contemplating if I another company's pedals, or do a hydraulic upgrade to my Logitech pedals. I was excited for the crp2s, but the inverted option with a clutch pedal is $1,000 Canadian before taxes 😣
But being as large of a company as Logitech is, there's no reason that they cannot dedicate a team solely to the Sim racing division.
@@michaelbolton7477don’t go to Logitech.
I literally bought a g pro wheel YESTERDAY and this comes out!
I KNEW YOU HAD A VIDEO READY. You never let me down, is my go to on simracing recommendations and content
Audio is this video / mix is really impressive. Great review Will
I've had my dd pro for two years and it is excellent. Still perfect feel, strength, no clipping, and looks brand new.
My first wheel base had a grindy roller button when I got it, complained about it in logitech help chat and they literally overnighted a new hub and just let me keep the original.
My fanatec shitshifter has been RMA'd three times and twice they didn't even open the box (with literal months between getting it back) I shipped it in and just sent it back.
I've had better customer service from pimps than fanatec.
In what circumstances do you need a handbrake but not also a sequential shifter at the same time? I don’t see how this being a handbrake would ever be useful unless you bought two of them, but at that point they may as well be separate products.
1 device to manufacture
Not what I was expecting I thought they were going to take their time and then release some sharp peripherals to build their ecosystem. That wheel looks almost identical to the original wheel but with a couple extra buttons. No H-pattern shifter only an e- break that can also be used as a sequential shifter. It’s like they’re selling people the same stuff twice and in the case of the shifter/E brake literally. I like Logitech, my first wheel was a G923, which was their first wheel with true force and even though it’s not as pronounced as it is on the Gpro, it definitely adds something. When I upgraded, I went with the R12 because of the ecosystem.
and after this release, I don’t regret it.
that Ascher racing mclaren wheel looks awesome. But sticker shock hit when I saw the price.
Ive had my gpro base for over a year now and love it. Came from an Accuforce v2. So glad they made this adapter so we can run larger diameter wheels for nascar/rally. Appreciate the review!
Sold my logitech DD. Swapped to simucube and waiting for my AMG F1 wheel. The only good thing about logitech is the pricepoint, but they took too long
we got new logitech hardware before GTA VI
That surely wasn’t on my bingo card
This is the gta6 comment I was looking for. Truly gta6 is taking way too long of Logitech released new products for the g pro first 🤣
Gotta thank MOZA for shaking shit up and not letting off the gas, they've pretty much made the old guards lifting and coasting a financially terrible decision even on the entry level side.
too little too late on Logitech when i purchased my gpro pedals i fell in love with the product and was desperate for more ,i ran those pedals with my g920 for a year hoping new wheels and a shifter would come to market for the pro line ...... now i have a full moza kit and even though i am extremely happy with my R9 i would of preferred to stay in the logitech eco system
Really excited about this, still waiting to pull the trigger on this wheel until my financial situation allows it but definitely kick starting the excitement again 😁
The funniest slap in the face about Logitech's DD wheelbase...
If you think about it. They are using a quick release that seems to be a well designed version of Fanatec's QR1. And there is absolutely no talk of the quick release being sub standard.
😂😂😂
What a week. Logitech and fanatec being back into the game!
fanatec has already lost. lost too many customers , and Moza took the spotlight. Price to quality.
@@CrazyChiefXxXMoza took the spotlight because they copied all of Fanatec’s technology using questionable business practices. If you have to support a Chinese company, at least pick the one playing fair, Simagic.
@@CrazyChiefXxXI would say Logitech already lost, it took them way too long, everybody picked Fanatec, or Moza meanwhile and when Logitech finally released something Fanatec already sorted out the insolvency and with Corsair it probably be stronger than ever.
@@CrazyChiefXxX with the announcement of the acquisition by corsair, I'm pretty sure consumers will buy their products again. I myself am just waiting to see how it goes while I try to decide between the moza r12 and simagic alpha mini. The clubsport DD is back on the map for me
Absolutely love seeing Logitech expanding. With Fanatec under new ownership, I’m excited for corsair to strike back!
I love the blue on this gear 💙
U do a absolutely great job on these review videos. Second to none. Long and super detailed as a review should be. I run a DD plus Extreme, and v3s, on gt7. Awesome logitech has joined they rest of the crowd finally.
Im impressed and happy for Logitech owners
As a Logitech pro owner… this basically just finally makes me feel confident that i might just own this wheel for the next 20 years or so as long as it works… and with it being Logitech, I really think it will
I am still hoping that they will have more impressive items to show off at ADAC (USE THE MCLAREN PARTNERSHIP!!! LOGITECH HAS BEEN PARTNERED WITH MCLAREN FOR FORZA CHALLENGE FOR HOW LONG?!!). The RS hub seems like its supposed to be an "accessible" way to get a new rim and the better rims will be more expensive.
Having owned a Logitech G Pro wheel and pedals for a few months now, I'm happy to say that I'm very confident in recommending this wheel if you are on a desk setup like me. Very few complaints, overall an amazing wheel and pedal combo. Very happy with my purchase!
You’re the man! On top of it!
So the RS Hub seems to lack the clutch paddles. Seems like a major oversight to either not include a version with them for more cash or make the rims compatible with orginal wheel.
Now I wheel like the original wheel is useless, I would prefer clutch paddles for GT or F1 racing. Meanwhile the orginal wheel is better suited for Rally and less suited than Track Wheel with GT racing.
Also there is no F1 rim!
People would still buy the Hub, if they plan to use more than 1 rim, just for convenience. I know that I did, I do play a lot of Rally, GT, F1 and some drifting, so not going to be fiddling with screws everytime I swap from Rally to F1. So new Hub was mandatory anyway for new rim. But now I don’t get clutch paddles for F1 or GT games…
I would suggest Logitech to make another proper hub just with paddles. Make it 50-100€ more and people would still buy it. Also make a F1 rim for it.
It's kind of wild that after two years, these are the only accessories that we're getting. The G Pro wheel and pedals are a tremendous bit of kit, but the Logitech ecosystem is being held back by sheer incompetence from the company itself. If you're a predominantly console user, then there's zero reason to opt for Logitech over Fanatec. Obviously if you're a PC user then you're probably looking at any number of better options already.
I disagree. Takes time to make quality products and I’m glad Logitech isn’t just throwing stuff out there as fast as possible like some other companies.
I think this is the first video on this. I've been holding out on taking the G PRO plunge but after a year on my first wheel, a G923 I'm feeling anxious now. Thanks for this
Those MOMO wheels look nice. Might grab some when they release. I really wished they made a H shifter aswell 😔
When I use a sequential, I also use my handbrake. This seems an expensive way to have both.
Fanatec having a sequential and H pattern combined seems the more sensible decision.
It about time.. Crazy to think Logitech where Nbr1 and now the left in the dust.. I guess this is a start
Just ordered 2 hubs and the rims..... Finally A start of there eco system
Why? So you can have a rim that's 10mm smaller than the stock rim....oh and 2 more buttons 😂
@@ravey1981I'm guessing cos it's completely round, unlike the original.
Round wheels for drifting and rally.
they could simply add console support to the universal hub by having you wire a controller to one of the USB ports then allows you to use the controller in wired mode via the wheel base, that way you have acsess to the buttons needed to activate it on console, like one of the Universal USB wheel adapters you can buy to add console compatibility to any wheel base.
Finally, something out of the Logitech camp.
Now all we need is some cheap entry level DD bases at 3,5 and 8 Nm
I mean, the Moza R3 is probably cheapest DD you can get right now... but that's not Logitech & I doubt they will come out with something this low power, not anytime soon at least
@@Sithhy it's a good option but the shipping kind of ruins the deal
I’ve had a G25 for many years. It held up well. Still is working with windows 11 with some work. Nice to see Logitech is finally stepping up their sim racing setups. Might have to finally upgrade my setup 😂.
I’ve just ordered the Xbox wheel hub and the round wheel and the formula wheel from the UK store. This is great as I have the PlayStation wheelbase and will now be able to use it on my Xbox as well. The Handbrake/shifter is up for preorder and is due on the 30th September so I’ll be ordering that nearer the time. Thank you Logitech for finally providing this support…better late than never. 🙏
This would've been fire in like 2022.
That rim is neither really Formula style nor GT. I find it very weird.
It suits both though
I really like it. Kinda subjective I guess
Really like the looks of it.
But the RS Hub is a downgrade compared to original wheel.
So I decided to cancel the Hub after initial hype in my mind settled down.
Until we get more Rims for it, would like a 300-320mm round wheel and 280-290 F1 wheel.
It’s about time. Almost dropped mine do to lack of support glad i can keep it for now
The updated Ghub and it BROKE EVERYTHING. My G923 doesn't even populate on it anymore. Nothing in registry editor. Works fine on Xbox.
Yup that's why I swore never to go with Logitech again. Rendered my G920 useless for 6 f**king months, they can't code software for s**t
Just got a G29 which i know id have to replace in 2 years and its great to know that i will be moving to something ill enjoy for a very long time
we wanted a pro shifter, and logitech delivering a sequential shifter is just a slap to all the people waiting for a pro H-pattern shifter. I mean, Fanatec did a clever thing (RIP) but come on... I'm beginning to think that the H pattern will never come to fruition...
It is good to see Logitech do this. I don’t even know why he even mentions Fanashit, Corsair can’t turn around a failed company overnight.
So happy to see this , still somewhat new into the sim world, absolutely love the G Pro setup onto Next Level rig , just purchased 2 shifters to start just sad have to wait till mid October for shipment. Really enjoy the original wheel but imagine I'll snag the new one strictly for GT7 with the VR.
Glad I came across your videos, just wish it was a few weeks back definitely would have used your codes in support but started today with the shifters🍻
People try to defend Logitech by saying it takes time to bring forth new products. Logitech have had sim racing, and flight peripherals, for many moons, and they've had many moons to stay up to date, and release up to date sim equipment. But they chose not to because sim racing, and obviously flight, is not a priority to them. In the grand scheme of things, it's a small market and they don't care about the noise simmers make. Their attitude is one of, we make what we want, when we want, and if you don't like it, don't buy it. Those people that try to defend Logitech need to realize something, we age forwards, not backwards. People should not buy a wheel base, and then have to wait two years for proper steering wheels to come out. Not from a company that has been in the business a long time. And no matter how good the new shifter may be, it's still not what most people asked for, and of course, Logitech didn't listen. Why wait years for products to come out when other manufacturers already have it out. Like I said, we age forwards, not backwards. It will probably be another two years before an H shifter appears, and if it comes out much sooner, it will be a miracle. I would suggest that people who are already sim racing, look elsewhere for sim products, as it's not a priority for Logitech. Waiting years for products to come out, that should've been come out, is a waste of your time, and life. With that said, the new Logitech sim racing products seem good, but the wait times are horrendous.
They got us on console compatibility, and that’s really about it. I’d get rid of the G Pro in a heartbeat for a better ecosystem
If you want to know something is going to last 5 plus years you need to test it for at least one year if not more. I think they released as soon as they could while still ensuring quality.
I'm guess Logitech will later come out with a more expensive universal hub with buttons that has the same QR as the original wheel as the one shown it looks like they have made a cost cut version to get the price lower but it was nice how the original wheel QR worked as its so smooth and easy to take on and off.
Regarding the Fanatec QR1, I might have won the tolerance lottery, but my DD Pro shaft and 2 different QR1s have perfect fit. All 3 products have been purchased about 6-9 months apart, so definitely different batches.
No H pattern shifter ?
Same here maybe they’re working on one
@@GoingtrackSideWithCN but we waited two years for this 😭
Coming fall 2025.
@@bfstudios9163 I’ve waited a long time for an ecosystem from Logitech, but I’m not disappointed with the rally wheel and sequential shifter and handbrake product because I mostly do a lot of rally driving greetings from Canada by the way
@@mouseFPVWhere did you hear this?
As late as it might be, with Corsair(their direct competitor in peripherals) now owning Fanatec, this might actually be perfect timing for them to put some new competing products out.
Great, I need that round rim for rally and drifting!
I'm beginning to think I was right. Logitech likely saw what was about to happen to fanatec a long time ago, and we're waiting for the dust to settle before they did this. I joked about it dozens of times and people laughed at me. Here it is
NO WAY i thought they were gonna let it rot! I don’t own one but i’m glad for everyone who does because i bet most of them were super dissapointed
Would love to see a video of the QR with other wheels, including the shaft extenders from each brand 😢
Order placed for their track rim and hub with code BOOSTED . Thank you Will for the in-depth review.
you need a little metal plate to bring the handbrake more to the left so it will be offset compared to the shifter and then your are golden. Bringin it over just 2 inches would be enough
Excellent review, super in depth and knowledgeable.
Thanks mate :)
My problem with Logitech is the software not the hardware. They are great for getting in games as standard but I had an update to GHuB render my G920 useless for months which put me off their wheels. Went Asetek Forte in the end.
The one thing I don't see helpful on the new lay out having the push buttons on the knobs is that it is hard to push the center button. In comparison with the original layout, the knob on the right side facing straight to the front of you is actually easier to push than the one on the left that is in the way with the wheel. So the new wheels have both knobs pointing to the sides which will not be something I would buy because of the orientation of the knobs.
Amazing coverage thanks as always Will 😎
For me the launch wheel was perfect so wasn't as desperate as some for more options but have to say they look really good and dripping with quality just like the original .Shame about the analog paddles but tbh I've never used mine [tho I like having the choice ]....Shifter/hand brake looks like a real winner too and £159 is an amazing... price Hats off to Logitech.!
I have a g pro wheel I purchased not too long ago, I race 1-3 times a week mostly on PlayStation but a bit on pc. Pretty happy so far, would like to add a gt style wheel at some point, wish these hubs had the clutch paddles as I pulled the clutch pedal off my pedals because the clutch on the wheel worked so well for me in ACC. I'll wait until the momo wheel comes out to decide which get style wheel to get.
Very nice, good to see more there are more and more options coming to the market LOVE IT
Can't wait to get the og wheel/base
Was not really interested in different rims even when I had Fanatec but what the heck, for this price why not. Thanks for the discount Mr Will ✌🏽
I love my GPro. I play on my pc Acc, iRacing and the TrueForce is amazing! I stopped playing AM2 because there’s no TF. It’s so boring without it.
I just got the new next level formula lite pro so I was hoping Logitech to release a Gt wheel 🎉 🙌🏽
Excited to get these. The price is decent, and the quality looks above standard.
You cant imagine how happy this video made me 😂
I kinda want their new shifter, but it just feels like there are still better-priced options. As someone who uses Logitech peripherals often, and quite like them, I'm glad to see them putting more "effort" perhaps into their sim racing ecosystem. IDK though; I'd like their software to be a bit better too. 😂
Mean for adding new zealand price its much appreciated
Too late. Simagic and Moza already got my money. It's too bad too. I've always been a big Logitech fan, their FFB is fantastic.
What was the dealbreaker?
it's just like christmas 😮 I love my Pro Base and Pedals soo much
Just in time for me to upgrade from my G920! Great review as always.
Thought is was April fools joke, nice to see.
Although, looking at the Australian pricing compared to US makes me feel it still is a joke - for anyone unsure of conversion rates, US$129 is about AU$200 not the $300 we’re being charged.
Nice Video and thanks for sharing ! Meanwhile waiting for almost 6 Months for my Break Performance Kit from Fanatec
the first thing they should do its a new improved loadcell pedals
You could get a shorter shift nob for the shifter on the botttom!
Now let's wait for corsair to do some nice work with fanatec people.
I understand they took a long time but the complaints are unreal . Yes they took a long time but the rims are only $70 USD that’s insane !!! $70 for premium rims and then the hub is only $130 usd . I mean wow bravo .
At least it's momo quality. But after this much time these wheels should be much better new interesting designs but they are the same as 7 year old wheels. But luckily still a nice classic style I wouldn't mind using lol.
Also luckily the wheelbase has such a fantastic feel.
What's really funny and I don't get why but I swear everyone who uses logitech is faster haha.
Why the housing for the sequential/handbrake is so large? The Fanatec and others are too...
What a shame that TS Track wheel would be a perfect stand alone rim for a Pokornyi button plate if the rim didn't have those cut outs which weaken's it structurally "as a stand alone rim" $69 is a fantastic price and a hard to find rim shape.