Nerubian Slavemaker wont be going to melee until your ~2 hunters have it. I would think of an alternative, because chances are slim if the drop rate is anything like the xbow from BWL that many no one but hunters will get it.
@@pedropierre9594 Based on xbow drop rate, that could mean a few months before hunters get them. Strikers/Larvae are realistic options. Considering attrition might be a problem post Naxx I wouldn't get my hopes up on getting a slavemaker.
going for Soulsting so i can moonlight as Arms inbetween raid nights that sweet 18 atk pwr 1% crit and 6 stamina. while having no loot competition as hunters/rogues will be dumping dkp on tier. That is the curse and blessing on warriors having so little Naxx gear pieces to upgrade too if your BiS in AQ40 the only upgrade in Naxx armor wise is Ghoulskin tunic/Aboms ribcage, Carnage leggings, Vengeance bracers and Dominion cape. you basically will be swimming in DKP (if your guild uses it) to buy up weapons/trinks.
Hey Sarthe, Love your videos and guides. I was wondering, I am mixed P4/P5 BiS, using earthstrike and DFT and I'm wondering which one you would replace with kiss of the spider, knowing that slayers mark is a very long way off. I main daggers but I do have swords as well. Thanks!
I really hope we have a couple more months of P5. My dwarf only RP guild, finally downed C'Thun last night. Still havent attempted Ouro/Visc because of time constraints.
I canceled my subscription today. I’m done with wow classic for a long while. Gonna miss your videos sarthe. They have been so very helpful to me. Take care traveler! Thanks for all your hard work.
I've been a fist rogue since phase 2, so the main weapon I'm gunning for in Naxx is the Claw of the Frost Wyrm, so I can pair it with my Claw of the Black Drake :D
got a question, Dagger rogue I hear and think that 2.5 chest + twins bracers + belt of never ever + t3 ring + bad of accur (cloak im unsure aq40 1. boss or sapp cloak) is better than these t3 items you show on dagger bis list here, you got any guide or anything i can work around these items ? and how can salvemaker be bis when a dagger rogue wants around 21-or22%hit i guess ?
what do you think about a human rogue taking castigator or MSA for main hand, my guild has consistently prioritized swords to human warriors so ive been sitting on a viskag MH for almost a year
hey Sarthe great video. My guild is moving towards a 4 Wishlist loot system for naxx so i have 4 things to add to my Wishlist including tier. What would you recommend for a dagger rogue that also wants full tier 3? So hard picking just 4 items i was thinking kingsfall kiss of the spider(i have DFT) nerubian slavemaker since i probably wont get it for awhile and 1 piece of tier?
why havent you gone significantly over soft hit cap especially for Sword Rogue horde side with Windfury? Im fairly certain Executioner bracer + Concentrated Hatred + Strikers Mark is better value for that hit
Please please make a Horde (orc) dps warrior phase 6 BiS list. I know you mostly do rouge content but mostly all warrior content creators are alliance favored. I think a lot of people would enjoy the information. Keep up the good work!
It is basicly identical to Alliance Warrior. Try get Maladath or CTS/AQR, and if you get either of the KT weps you swap to swords. Either Gressil + Maladath, or CTS + THC. In less ideal worlds, just go fetch the axe.
@@Olvedn lol yeah I know. It’s just the harsh reality that I won’t prob get any KT weapons until right before TBC if at all😂 just was trying to figure out the axe situation whether Hatchet of sundered bone + qiragi axe or crul
The only time any seal fate spec outperforms combat in sims is if you have Misplaced Servo Arm + Anubisath Warhammer as a Human Rogue on fights 3-5 min long and you don't have any other MH Naxx weapons. Even then Human Rogues shouldn't be getting those weapons because they should be going to Human Fury Wars.
Hey Sarthe. For a dagger rogue, how long do you think Aged core hound glove should be held, and replaced with what ? Also, is the + to dagger skills the same as hit? So if I have 16 hit, everything over 11 hit is wasted ?
why are you going with movement speed enchant with your full world buff gear, it makes no sense as it gives 0 with zg buff on. Also something you dont talk about is alliance side differences with bok. Beside this, great work, love you content.
@@riboflavin7221 You need all Warriors to tank on 4 Horseman and have 100% reliable taunts or you're most likely going to wipe. They can also use the reel from ZG Hydra Boss, but that's only a 1 time use. And you need to kill 4 Horseman in order to progress to Saphiron and KT.
@@riboflavin7221 ah, I didn't realize it was only a minute CD. I wonder if with that being the case, that's all they would need. I haven't done the fight since Wrath. Don't remember if that would suffice or not.
Good lists for muh streamer loot council greedy boi. Kinda garbage list for regular raiders that are part of a 40 man team In addition you're not addressing dagger crit cap issues?
Nerubian Slavemaker wont be going to melee until your ~2 hunters have it. I would think of an alternative, because chances are slim if the drop rate is anything like the xbow from BWL that many no one but hunters will get it.
ez strikers mark/ ouro gun
Good thing speedrunning guilds run one or two
@@pedropierre9594 Based on xbow drop rate, that could mean a few months before hunters get them. Strikers/Larvae are realistic options. Considering attrition might be a problem post Naxx I wouldn't get my hopes up on getting a slavemaker.
going for Soulsting so i can moonlight as Arms inbetween raid nights that sweet 18 atk pwr 1% crit and 6 stamina. while having no loot competition as hunters/rogues will be dumping dkp on tier.
That is the curse and blessing on warriors having so little Naxx gear pieces to upgrade too if your BiS in AQ40 the only upgrade in Naxx armor wise is Ghoulskin tunic/Aboms ribcage, Carnage leggings, Vengeance bracers and Dominion cape. you basically will be swimming in DKP (if your guild uses it) to buy up weapons/trinks.
@@jasonu3741 Yea, we dont run DKP thank christ
Hey Sarthe, Love your videos and guides. I was wondering, I am mixed P4/P5 BiS, using earthstrike and DFT and I'm wondering which one you would replace with kiss of the spider, knowing that slayers mark is a very long way off. I main daggers but I do have swords as well. Thanks!
I really hope we have a couple more months of P5. My dwarf only RP guild, finally downed C'Thun last night. Still havent attempted Ouro/Visc because of time constraints.
Yeah my guild hasnt downed cthuun or visc yet because we have to pug a lot because of inconsistent guild members
I canceled my subscription today. I’m done with wow classic for a long while. Gonna miss your videos sarthe. They have been so very helpful to me. Take care traveler! Thanks for all your hard work.
MSA, MSA, MSA.
I have wanted maces for so long and now is my time!!
I've been a fist rogue since phase 2, so the main weapon I'm gunning for in Naxx is the Claw of the Frost Wyrm, so I can pair it with my Claw of the Black Drake :D
got a question,
Dagger rogue
I hear and think that 2.5 chest + twins bracers + belt of never ever + t3 ring + bad of accur (cloak im unsure aq40 1. boss or sapp cloak) is better than these t3 items you show on dagger bis list here, you got any guide or anything i can work around these items ?
and how can salvemaker be bis when a dagger rogue wants around 21-or22%hit i guess ?
Thanks for the awesome content as always. Will sword spec a lot stronger than dagger in P6？
what do you think about a human rogue taking castigator or MSA for main hand, my guild has consistently prioritized swords to human warriors so ive been sitting on a viskag MH for almost a year
hey Sarthe great video. My guild is moving towards a 4 Wishlist loot system for naxx so i have 4 things to add to my Wishlist including tier. What would you recommend for a dagger rogue that also wants full tier 3? So hard picking just 4 items i was thinking kingsfall kiss of the spider(i have DFT) nerubian slavemaker since i probably wont get it for awhile and 1 piece of tier?
Fire content as always !
Hey sarthe, if you could zoom in for future videos that would be sweet. Great video tho
CTRL+ !!!
I second this
Yeah it’s a killer on a cell phone. A zoom would be welcome
Hey! On your Loot Prio Sheet which you linked, for BiS weapons, you have Kingsfall (dagger) plus Iblis (OH sword). That's a silly combo, hmm?
why havent you gone significantly over soft hit cap especially for Sword Rogue horde side with Windfury?
Im fairly certain Executioner bracer + Concentrated Hatred + Strikers Mark is better value for that hit
yes, i don't think he knows about crit cap.
Please please make a Horde (orc) dps warrior phase 6 BiS list. I know you mostly do rouge content but mostly all warrior content creators are alliance favored. I think a lot of people would enjoy the information. Keep up the good work!
It is basicly identical to Alliance Warrior. Try get Maladath or CTS/AQR, and if you get either of the KT weps you swap to swords. Either Gressil + Maladath, or CTS + THC.
In less ideal worlds, just go fetch the axe.
@@Olvedn lol yeah I know. It’s just the harsh reality that I won’t prob get any KT weapons until right before TBC if at all😂 just was trying to figure out the axe situation whether Hatchet of sundered bone + qiragi axe or crul
@@asapjerg7181 AQWA and Crul is basicly equal, but Crul is very slightly ahead.
Thanks for detailed analyse, what would be the best rogue talent in P6? How about seal fate + Hemo for swords?
The only time any seal fate spec outperforms combat in sims is if you have Misplaced Servo Arm + Anubisath Warhammer as a Human Rogue on fights 3-5 min long and you don't have any other MH Naxx weapons. Even then Human Rogues shouldn't be getting those weapons because they should be going to Human Fury Wars.
Play what you like. These meta chasers will all swap to lock and hunter anyway
Hey Sarthe. For a dagger rogue, how long do you think Aged core hound glove should be held, and replaced with what ? Also, is the + to dagger skills the same as hit? So if I have 16 hit, everything over 11 hit is wasted ?
If you have over 11% hit yes there is no real point in having the weapon skill, the increase in hit will be so minimal.
what is that face that pops up at 3:02? WHAT IS THAT FACE?! i've seen it in games, in forums,.... WHAT IS IT? I NEED ANSWERS!
Are you going to cover other classes bis gear?
What to enchant on Kingsfall MH and DS OH?
dagger enchants are always "Wep damage 5+" on Mainhand / "15 Agility" on Offhand
what about MSA? is it good for combat rogue
Love it! Mage and Warrior next pls :)
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Druids: Am I a joke to you?
GET HYPED!
Feels good 2 already have 1 of the bis items
Wait Zatar made that site? Damn everything that guy makes is gold.
Giving a slavemaker to a rogue over a hunter is the biggest middle finger to your puller
wouldve liked to see MSA on here compared to the swords, Farmed MSA forever, got lucky with anubisath
why are you going with movement speed enchant with your full world buff gear, it makes no sense as it gives 0 with zg buff on. Also something you dont talk about is alliance side differences with bok. Beside this, great work, love you content.
All this BiS-game talk. I’m still trying to get a main-hand Pugio over here.
Anybody know of anybody talking tank-loot for naxx, in a similar vein to this? Skarm's out of the picture.
Skarm is back as of a few hours ago, go check it out
To the OP, Band of Unnatural Forces is only BiS for PvE.
Naxx annouced, so quickly! 1 month away.
Kiss of the spider TROLL PRIO
It just sucks for rogues for tier because guilds are going to want to drop their tanks with tier and all their furys with at least the 4pc first.
What do the furys need the 4pc for lol
@@riboflavin7221 horsemen fight
@@riboflavin7221 You need all Warriors to tank on 4 Horseman and have 100% reliable taunts or you're most likely going to wipe. They can also use the reel from ZG Hydra Boss, but that's only a 1 time use. And you need to kill 4 Horseman in order to progress to Saphiron and KT.
@@Karasike 1 min cd. Seems stupid to take tier away from those whod use it for everything to give to warriors for one fight when the reel is fine
@@riboflavin7221 ah, I didn't realize it was only a minute CD. I wonder if with that being the case, that's all they would need. I haven't done the fight since Wrath. Don't remember if that would suffice or not.
Like a rogue would get any of these before warriors lol
Clearly Warrior items
Good lists for muh streamer loot council greedy boi.
Kinda garbage list for regular raiders that are part of a 40 man team
In addition you're not addressing dagger crit cap issues?
first!