The thing that makes 2018 better than 2017, was he was essentially playing alone by that point, with Kai gone and KLove regressing, the mess that team was in the first half of the season with IT and Dwade, him reaching the finals while putting the no skill, not clutch and needs a superteam debates to rest all at the same time was special man
@@boubacardiallo5945but if we’re going strictly off of performance than 2018 is clearly better.Had a higher volume and was still almost as Efficient as he was in 2017.
@@LetMeEatDem fax what’s funny is those early teams he was carrying at 22, people don’t understand that each year those teams won 50 60+ games, they overachieved, that roster was not fit to compete in any form but one person was the reason why they were relevant, why they was in contention. All the times he lost I mean Jordan went through the exact same thing pre Pippen but one gets a pass and the other just gets bashed even though he made it farther with less help😂
2009 was peak athleticism Lebron 2013 was the most complete version of Lebron 2017 was a combination of 13 and 16 Lebron 2018 was genuinely God mode Lebron that proved even without a super team he was still Lebron mf James those was personally my favorite Lebron years, great video as always‼️
Bro LeBron went demon mode in 2018. I think he should have won MVP. The playoffs proved as much. Remember that ECF game against Boston on the road where he pretty much scored all of the Cavs points in the first quarter? Dude was in his bag. He hit like 3-4 fadeaway shots from the 3pt line that in the 1st quarter. I couldn’t believe what i was watching. Accurate depiction. He def went LeGoat mode that year! 🐐😈
2021 Bron in D Tier Is Total Disrespect he was #1 In the MVP Race and was getting DPOY consideration before he got hurt Lakers were #2 in the conference before AD and His injuries. Should be at least where 2019 is at
Some people just be letting the narratives get in their head especially with the recency bias. Also nostalgia is overshadowing that season as well cause all this “washed” talk started literally THAT YEAR when they lost in the 1st RD
@@beng5662 you cant try and be the smart guy and be objectively wrong. We won 59 games in 2017-2018. It was the winningest season we ever had, and still is. In 2018, the raps won 59 games, wich at the time was the best we have ever done. Obviously we won it all a year later but we werent talking about that.
@@DatBoiGloomy buddy u said it was our best season to date but the year they won the chip was our best season to date. They were clearly better with kawhi during regular season and of course the playoffs and it has been proven by the chip. I can’t believe I had to state the obvious
I don’t discredit the ring for the same reason you said but it was 1. Boring having no fans And 2. Not one of the two hardest championships ever like lebron said it was. His words make ppl haters. His game doesn’t.
it has to be contextualized if you're being objective. there was a 4 month break in the middle of the season then they came back for like 10 games and then went straight into the playoffs. if the nba had a full offseason and then announced the season was only going to be 10 games instead of 82 and then right into playoffs people wouldn't look at that the same as a regular championship, why is the bubble any different? i don't really care about there not being fans there and that nonsense but the break in the middle of the season and then the short amount of games for teams to get back in a rhythm definitely differentiates it from every other title in nba history.
@@ykg2393so did everyone else???? being young and getting more rest is BETTER. tf are you on? are you saying younger teams that beat older teams have a asterisk around it now?
@@ykg2393I would argue the team that hosts Kawhi Leonard the guy with degenerative knee issues benefited more. If you gonna try argue because they have injuries in later years then you can also look towards the shortened offseason that caused it. Again they were 21-7 pre ad injury and again one of the best in the league but the offseason was so short they barely got time to rest which you probably would choose to ignore when talking about their injuries
In all fairness the lakers in 2019 were a top 3 seed then Lebron got injured and they lost something like 17 games when he was gone and there was no shot to make the playoffs. Lebron was great that year
@@andrewlynch9586wrong go look at early season record. They were actually a projected like 5th seed and were on track to hit that until the Bron injury.
I’ve been watching the nba since 1981, going to games and seeing the greatest of all time play their careers out. I’ve had season tickets to laker games for years now. With that said, kobe is not better than lebron. I’m sorry.
if u still think kobe better than bron it’s just nostalgia or your bias, bron is statistically better only thing kobe got is mamba mentality and 5 rings
I will stand by 2013 as Bron's best season. Because of his defense, shooting efficiency and post up footwork. 56% from the field and 40 from 3 is some Jokic level efficiency.
It’s definitely 2013. He was a sniper and an all time defender. Also he was LeBron the tank going to the rim, and really played great off ball too. Literally flawless and had clutch moments aswell.
The biggest change I saw in Lebron was his able to control his body over time. Those 07-12 years were phenomenal especially from a physicality standpoint but once he got under control things were just different
2013 bron clears. 2nd in DPOY voting. 56% from the floor and 40% from 3 Put up 27/8/7 on 64% true shooting when the league average was 53.5... Led the heat to a 66-16 record and the chip. Was 1 vote away from being the first unanimous MVP ever but some moron decided to give it to Carmelo
2009 is arguably LeBron's best season, that is clear of anything besides 2013, 2018, and 2016. 2016 is carried hard by the finals, 09 was better everywhere else.
I will die on this hill, but i've been trying to tell people that the 2017 cavs are one of the best teams to not win a championship. The greatness and dominance of that team is forgotten because they ran into the KD Warriors. At the very least, this team is MUCH better than 2016
2022 & 2023 LeBron is like overpowered with skill. His athleticism and speed hasn’t changed much, but he uses it sparingly. When it comes to his midrange, footwork, finishing ability, IQ, and even dunks still, he’s reached a point where he does what he wants. Not only that, he has turned himself into a pure scorer; hence why he’s averaging 30 PPG over his last two seasons. I would put 2022 in the B or A category, even though they missed the playoffs; but 2023 was unquestionably a B-grade season, which is crazy for a 38 year-old.
That 2018 raptors was a really good team, the only reason why nobody talks about them as a good team is bc lebron completely broke them. They were the best team in the east (bc the Celtics were injured) but lebron swept them so nobody thinks of them like that. A lot of the things that won them the chip the next year started in that season.
I really like the style of video from U2, with bringing in highlights in between your commentary. Your usual style is good too, but I hope to see more like this from you all in the future.
Yo, I would put 2023 in A. Just for the iconic stuff that happened. He passed Kareem during this season, he silenced Brooks and the Grizzlies (he never really had this kind of disrespect thrown at him, that's why I feel it's a great moment in his career) and he also beat Steph and the Warriors when they had kind of "even" rosters. Yeah they got beat by the Nuggets in 4, but still reached the WCF.
No bullshit. You could put 2023 there, too. 29 PPG, 8 REB, 7 AST. His three-point shot was off, but his defense was elite. He also lead them to the WCF & was Top 5 in about all Advanced Stats. Underrated season.
Ur argument on 2017 vs 18 is kinda dumb💀no we hype up that yea cuz he was just BETTER, had the memorable moments, still carried to the finals …..oh yea and HE DIDNT HAVE KYRIE💀💀💀
On god i would love a Tim Duncan Ranking every season video, thatd be so chill 40 mins of tim duncan talk, a player IMO who kinda doesnt get mentioned a lot these days (not bad since thats what he wants, but younger fans really forgetting how good Timmy was)
Do either mj or Kobe. I am a Jordan fan yes. And yes mj’s won’t be as interesting because all bulls seasons will be B minimum and the wizard years are the only ones you can put teir f Minus minus
God set out to create the perfect basketball player. He gave him all the physical tools necessary to dominate the game. His name was Lebron James. Once Lebron was born, God realized “oh sh*t, I forgot to give him a mid-range pull-up and a clutch gene” 😂😂
@@Ghost-rb6cw Lebron played more games than Jordan. STAYISTICALLY, Lebron is less efficient than Jordan in the last 30 seconds of an NBA game when each field goal they attempted during that time period is sampled. There is also Larry Bird who is significantly more clutch than Lebron. Yes, both Bird and Jordan played less total games than Lebron due to retirement. But there is no way you can unironically argue Lebron is more clutch than those players. With Lebron vs Kobe you have an argument
Tbf 2011 was a rough year for a lot of us. I cant hold that year against LeBron as if i wasnt crying in the car bc i didnt like the astetics of the uear changing.
That’s absolutely not how that logic works…why? Well Chris Bosh wasn’t there in 2012 that’s why they went 7 the other BOS-Heat series between the 2 weren’t really as close
@@ryanstyle8862 just such a weird argument to make. They never played together at younger ages. All 3 of them were already towards the end of their prime.
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The thing that makes 2018 better than 2017, was he was essentially playing alone by that point, with Kai gone and KLove regressing, the mess that team was in the first half of the season with IT and Dwade, him reaching the finals while putting the no skill, not clutch and needs a superteam debates to rest all at the same time was special man
Crazy if anyone was thinking he needed a super team to compete considering he carried the Cavs to the finals when he was 22 years old Lmao.
Strictly speaking on the basketball performance level though, 2017 is a better and more all around season for LeBron.
@@boubacardiallo5945but if we’re going strictly off of performance than 2018 is clearly better.Had a higher volume and was still almost as Efficient as he was in 2017.
@@LetMeEatDem”weak east”
@@LetMeEatDem fax what’s funny is those early teams he was carrying at 22, people don’t understand that each year those teams won 50 60+ games, they overachieved, that roster was not fit to compete in any form but one person was the reason why they were relevant, why they was in contention. All the times he lost I mean Jordan went through the exact same thing pre Pippen but one gets a pass and the other just gets bashed even though he made it farther with less help😂
2009 was peak athleticism Lebron
2013 was the most complete version of Lebron
2017 was a combination of 13 and 16 Lebron
2018 was genuinely God mode Lebron that proved even without a super team he was still Lebron mf James those was personally my favorite Lebron years, great video as always‼️
Ong 2018 LeBron was that roach that just wouldn't fucking die no matter what 😂
@@ThisDude234LeRoach 🪳
@@ThisDude234boi went t-1000 that playoff run
We were calling this man LeThanos in 2018 😭
Bro LeBron went demon mode in 2018. I think he should have won MVP. The playoffs proved as much. Remember that ECF game against Boston on the road where he pretty much scored all of the Cavs points in the first quarter? Dude was in his bag. He hit like 3-4 fadeaway shots from the 3pt line that in the 1st quarter. I couldn’t believe what i was watching.
Accurate depiction. He def went LeGoat mode that year! 🐐😈
2021 Bron in D Tier Is Total Disrespect he was #1 In the MVP Race and was getting DPOY consideration before he got hurt Lakers were #2 in the conference before AD and His injuries. Should be at least where 2019 is at
Facts 😂
Some people just be letting the narratives get in their head especially with the recency bias. Also nostalgia is overshadowing that season as well cause all this “washed” talk started literally THAT YEAR when they lost in the 1st RD
Dpoy my ass. Watch the games and tell me he deserved that consideration.
As a raptors fan, 2018 bron was scary good. 2018 was our best season to date and he single handedly dismantled our team in 4. It was rough.😅
Did u forget about the next year (2019)
Bro i’m a Canadian and i honestly didn’t even give af lol. LeBron was too entertaining to watch that year. I wanted the Cavs to win 😂
@@beng5662 you cant try and be the smart guy and be objectively wrong. We won 59 games in 2017-2018. It was the winningest season we ever had, and still is. In 2018, the raps won 59 games, wich at the time was the best we have ever done. Obviously we won it all a year later but we werent talking about that.
@@DatBoiGloomy buddy u said it was our best season to date but the year they won the chip was our best season to date. They were clearly better with kawhi during regular season and of course the playoffs and it has been proven by the chip. I can’t believe I had to state the obvious
@@DatBoiGloomywho cares about regular season wins in 2018 when you literally won the chip in 2019…
People like to discredit the Bubble ring but everyone was there and they all had the same advantages and disadvantages
I don’t discredit the ring for the same reason you said but it was
1. Boring having no fans
And
2. Not one of the two hardest championships ever like lebron said it was. His words make ppl haters. His game doesn’t.
it has to be contextualized if you're being objective. there was a 4 month break in the middle of the season then they came back for like 10 games and then went straight into the playoffs. if the nba had a full offseason and then announced the season was only going to be 10 games instead of 82 and then right into playoffs people wouldn't look at that the same as a regular championship, why is the bubble any different? i don't really care about there not being fans there and that nonsense but the break in the middle of the season and then the short amount of games for teams to get back in a rhythm definitely differentiates it from every other title in nba history.
Lmao the lakers the oldest team in the league definitely benefited from a long break period for their bodies . Don’t be dumb
@@ykg2393so did everyone else???? being young and getting more rest is BETTER. tf are you on? are you saying younger teams that beat older teams have a asterisk around it now?
@@ykg2393I would argue the team that hosts Kawhi Leonard the guy with degenerative knee issues benefited more. If you gonna try argue because they have injuries in later years then you can also look towards the shortened offseason that caused it. Again they were 21-7 pre ad injury and again one of the best in the league but the offseason was so short they barely got time to rest which you probably would choose to ignore when talking about their injuries
In all fairness the lakers in 2019 were a top 3 seed then Lebron got injured and they lost something like 17 games when he was gone and there was no shot to make the playoffs. Lebron was great that year
wasn't their record in games he played like 28-27? that team wasn't going anywhere that season
@@andrewlynch9586wrong go look at early season record. They were actually a projected like 5th seed and were on track to hit that until the Bron injury.
@@whosemfnpodcastisthis9398 they were 5th but were like 2 games above 8th it was like this year in the west where teams were bunched together
@@whosemfnpodcastisthis9398 the team wasn’t going anywhere you can ignore reality all you want
@@andrewlynch9586no shit they weren’t winning the chip but would’ve easily made the playoffs if he never got injured
Y’all should do this for other goats like Kobe, Jordan, Shaq etc. the takes on Lebron seasons were on point btw
Yes
The shift in quality these past videos has been great
2013 Bron should have been Unanimous MVP. 'Nuff said.
6’8” 😩
260 🤭
Darkskin 🫣
Brown eyes 👀
From the Midwest 😋
Able to come back from a 3-1 deficit 😫😫😫😫
All of my glorious King Lepookie Bear James' seasons in the NBA are the best 😡
LePookie is crazy
I’ve been watching the nba since 1981, going to games and seeing the greatest of all time play their careers out. I’ve had season tickets to laker games for years now. With that said, kobe is not better than lebron. I’m sorry.
Nah fr, the debate is between Jordan and LeBron, Kobe was surpassed by LeBron a long time ago
Bro lying
if u still think kobe better than bron it’s just nostalgia or your bias, bron is statistically better only thing kobe got is mamba mentality and 5 rings
@@kike6359no one’s lying but you when you tell yourself kobe is better 😂
Kobe fans just have an idea of him that just isn’t true. He’s a top 10 player, but he’s not on brons level at this point all time
I will stand by 2013 as Bron's best season. Because of his defense, shooting efficiency and post up footwork. 56% from the field and 40 from 3 is some Jokic level efficiency.
It’s definitely 2013. He was a sniper and an all time defender. Also he was LeBron the tank going to the rim, and really played great off ball too. Literally flawless and had clutch moments aswell.
I don’t care what you meant ion like how it sound lebron> jokic
Comparing Lebrons peak season to Jokic is crazy 😂😂😂 Lebron demolishes Jokic any point in his career
@@akaliotp6766 not in terms of shooting, which was the point being made. Jokic was shooting 60% from the mid-range this past season, bro. 😭
It’s not Jokic level efficiency but it was his best season
Man the cavs lowkey had some raw ass jerseys throughout the first LBJ years
The dark blue ones were fire
The hood needs a 2008 Finals drinking game with Dom ngl.
That game 4 comeback for sure
I already know this is going to be a good video when it's about my king
Pause
@alieucamara8525 There ia no pause when talking about the glorious king
@@SilkyLew I’m a LeBron fan too but ayoooo 😭
Calling another nigga your king is wild. Calling him A king is one thing but YOUR king is pushing it.
My beautiful sweet hung generous lord
No superstar besides Lebron was taking that 2007 Cavs team to the Championship let alone the playoffs lol.
You already know Solz is talking about the Celtics beating Bron
Lol you were right
People forgot all about 2017 bron cuz he lost but that’s arguably the best playoffs he’s ever had
Swept everybody in the East except the Celtics which they beat in 5
nope, i stand that 2009 and 2018 were better
personally, i think 2018 was his best playoffs ever
The biggest change I saw in Lebron was his able to control his body over time. Those 07-12 years were phenomenal especially from a physicality standpoint but once he got under control things were just different
That 2018 dunk again Yusuf was just tooooo crazy. 🤣🔥
2018 Lebron is still the best Lebron I've ever seen
Did you not see 2013 Bron.?
To think that vince carter was a role player and team hopper in his 22nd season and then to insist that lebron be the number 1 option in his os crazy
Ngl lakers would’ve prolly repeated had ad and lebron not gotten hurt. Cuz they were toying with the suns and then got injured🤷🏾♂️
2013 bron clears.
2nd in DPOY voting.
56% from the floor and 40% from 3
Put up 27/8/7 on 64% true shooting when the league average was 53.5...
Led the heat to a 66-16 record and the chip.
Was 1 vote away from being the first unanimous MVP ever but some moron decided to give it to Carmelo
2009 is arguably LeBron's best season, that is clear of anything besides 2013, 2018, and 2016. 2016 is carried hard by the finals, 09 was better everywhere else.
LeBron seasons starting from 2009 was crazy 😂
I will die on this hill, but i've been trying to tell people that the 2017 cavs are one of the best teams to not win a championship. The greatness and dominance of that team is forgotten because they ran into the KD Warriors. At the very least, this team is MUCH better than 2016
2022 & 2023 LeBron is like overpowered with skill. His athleticism and speed hasn’t changed much, but he uses it sparingly. When it comes to his midrange, footwork, finishing ability, IQ, and even dunks still, he’s reached a point where he does what he wants. Not only that, he has turned himself into a pure scorer; hence why he’s averaging 30 PPG over his last two seasons. I would put 2022 in the B or A category, even though they missed the playoffs; but 2023 was unquestionably a B-grade season, which is crazy for a 38 year-old.
Can we just talk about the fact that the celtics made a super team, and lebron basically was playing against then by himself. Wild
Imma have to disagree with yall. 2009 is s tier. What he did during the playoffs was disgusting. Has to be s tier im sorry.
And was second in dploy like 2013 btw
The fact his worst season (2004) was a near all-NBA level year (21/6/6) 🥶🥶👑
Imagine having your worst season is a 21/5/6 statline. Majority of good players cant even consistently get those numbers.
and thats coming outta high school
And he was a teenager in that season
Fact: KOBE GOT SWEPT IN 2011
sage got me cryin from da thumbnail😭😭
Y’all underrating 2011. the finals are the finals, understandably. BUT everything leading up to June was A tier.
Love the vid I’m ngl y’all cooked and y’all should do a Kobe ranking next
Fr 😂
That 2018 raptors was a really good team, the only reason why nobody talks about them as a good team is bc lebron completely broke them. They were the best team in the east (bc the Celtics were injured) but lebron swept them so nobody thinks of them like that. A lot of the things that won them the chip the next year started in that season.
I really like the style of video from U2, with bringing in highlights in between your commentary. Your usual style is good too, but I hope to see more like this from you all in the future.
After getting this recap of Bron's career... WTH IS BRON ON. DUDE THIS MAN IS TOO GOOD
Yo, I would put 2023 in A. Just for the iconic stuff that happened. He passed Kareem during this season, he silenced Brooks and the Grizzlies (he never really had this kind of disrespect thrown at him, that's why I feel it's a great moment in his career) and he also beat Steph and the Warriors when they had kind of "even" rosters. Yeah they got beat by the Nuggets in 4, but still reached the WCF.
28:08-28:28 peak TSO stg 😭👌
How is 2009 not S? that should be above everything besides maybe 12 and 13
Finally we’re going back to talking about my LeHoney Bun
Putting the Lakers years anywhere under B is straight hating
13:21 91 Magic was on the same level as Curry.
Someone gotta find every time solz says cut that out and it's not cut 😂
2009, 2018, 2022 were the best scoring brons fssss
No bullshit. You could put 2023 there, too. 29 PPG, 8 REB, 7 AST. His three-point shot was off, but his defense was elite. He also lead them to the WCF & was Top 5 in about all Advanced Stats. Underrated season.
4:39 that was utterly disrespectful🔥
28:04 W comeback from Sage 😂
I'm going to have to watch a Heatles mixtape. Those teams really mean a lot to me as a Heat Lifer
This really puts into perspective how crazy Lebron’s career as a whole has been. Immaculate consistency and just straight up dominance.
30:12 Robert Pelinka 😂
Thank you guys for making it, I love it 😂😂😂
You Guys should be reacting to the highlights. Would make the vid even better/funnier bc y’all are hilarious reactors.
If u make the finals appearance that season deserves a A .... Smh mj fans r sick af
“I ain’t gone lie”
These lebron season are great but he ain’t ever averaged a triple double now did he?I think not
What’s ur point? 😭
@@jalencofer1891😂
it's a meme on th channel@@jalencofer1891
@@jalencofer1891Westbrook averaged a triple double… nuff said😤
@@ryangraves8874 yes
That nuggets series was a lot closer than people will remember
It was a close sweep fr
Ur argument on 2017 vs 18 is kinda dumb💀no we hype up that yea cuz he was just BETTER, had the memorable moments, still carried to the finals …..oh yea and HE DIDNT HAVE KYRIE💀💀💀
On god i would love a Tim Duncan Ranking every season video, thatd be so chill 40 mins of tim duncan talk, a player IMO who kinda doesnt get mentioned a lot these days (not bad since thats what he wants, but younger fans really forgetting how good Timmy was)
Shoutout sage! Dwight and Magee was the key to the lakers defense
2016-2018 is S+ made me consider is Lebron beating MJ?
And that GS buzzer beater has never been counted lol
Sage said a lil load management 😨 would’ve never thought I’ll see
Shoutout to Toxic Sage for his appearance in this video. Love to see it. 😂😂😂
Listen till this day I will always say 2018 was peak Lebron that guy was something else I’ll take him over anyone in history
Miami bron>>
Got sage looking crazy in the thumbnail lol
2006, 2017 2019 are his most underrated seasons imo
Tim Duncan vid gonna be the peak of the channel fr
Do either mj or Kobe.
I am a Jordan fan yes.
And yes mj’s won’t be as interesting because all bulls seasons will be B minimum and the wizard years are the only ones you can put teir f Minus minus
God set out to create the perfect basketball player. He gave him all the physical tools necessary to dominate the game. His name was Lebron James. Once Lebron was born, God realized “oh sh*t, I forgot to give him a mid-range pull-up and a clutch gene” 😂😂
Lol he was so unclutch that he manage to make more game winners in the playoffs then the one y'all say that has the "clutch gene".
@@Ghost-rb6cw Lebron played more games than Jordan. STAYISTICALLY, Lebron is less efficient than Jordan in the last 30 seconds of an NBA game when each field goal they attempted during that time period is sampled.
There is also Larry Bird who is significantly more clutch than Lebron. Yes, both Bird and Jordan played less total games than Lebron due to retirement. But there is no way you can unironically argue Lebron is more clutch than those players.
With Lebron vs Kobe you have an argument
@@amandadraws8682 sir lebron is shooting at a higher percentage on go ahead shots in the final 5 seconds in the 4th q/ot.
Keep this ranking videos going
4:40 why have I never seen that play?
I think yall should consider doing a drinking video to 2011 finals for a lil hate watching
Y'all should do one of these with Kobe's seasons
Nah 2009 was statistically his best season ever but not S tier? Cmon
nah celtics put dbook on the map 70 😏
I think that a Kobe Bryant vid would be cool too
different topic but we need another drinking game vid
Aye fuck all that do RAJON RONDO 🔥🔥🔥
Tbf 2011 was a rough year for a lot of us. I cant hold that year against LeBron as if i wasnt crying in the car bc i didnt like the astetics of the uear changing.
I wish the editor would’ve through playoff numbers in the graphics
could be my laker bias but sage was spitting with the lakers section, they were all S and the mickey years are A-B
Great video ! LBJ 💯💯🦁 👑
Not putting 09 or 10 in S is crazy. Give at least one of them A. Probably 09
tbhh i think the first year back in cleveland might be the only c tier other than thattt 🤣🤷🏾♂️
Lebron fan now! lets go!!!
61-21 is their record
great idea for a video
Do this same vid with steph that be dope then do kd
This is the true skip and Shannon
GOAT JAMES YESSIR
2018 Bron was like watching Jesus walk on water
Before I start watching, anything less than a B is hating 😂
Imagine 2018 bron wit kyrie still 🤯🤯
010 Benjamin? 😂😂
BLOCKED BY JAMES 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
Goat James
Bron 2017 is moving me so much
If the older celtics pushed brons heat to seven,then younger celtics would COOK
They were all already in advanced ages when they got traded there. You talking like KG and Ray were there since they were 25. KG was already 31!
That’s absolutely not how that logic works…why? Well Chris Bosh wasn’t there in 2012 that’s why they went 7 the other BOS-Heat series between the 2 weren’t really as close
@@LetMeEatDem In my opinion it would be at the least a lot harder for the heat to advance
@@ryanstyle8862 just such a weird argument to make. They never played together at younger ages. All 3 of them were already towards the end of their prime.
@@LetMeEatDemin 2008(I never specified how young they were) they were younger then 2012-2013