How the Cleveland Cavaliers Failed LeBron James (2003-2010)

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    Chapters:
    00:00 - Backstory
    02:22 - Early Years
    09:43 - Competitive Years
    19:27 - Crimes Against Basketball

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  • @casualbanter6939
    @casualbanter6939 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +581

    I hope Wemby doesn't end up in the same situation

    • @gokuswanson2037
      @gokuswanson2037 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

      Wemby won't but for completely different reasons.

    • @timoehlers2265
      @timoehlers2265 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +59

      As a Mavs fan I hope Luka doesn't

    • @dusk6159
      @dusk6159 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      ​@@timoehlers2265 At least Luka has special, great and unique moments. Every Playoffs and RS with him it's great, especially with the past series with the Clippers and Suns

    • @theSafetyCar
      @theSafetyCar 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@timoehlers2265Luka has been in a similar situation but the Mavs are getting better

    • @jodlaa5142
      @jodlaa5142 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      Spurs will handle it don't worry

  • @entername9179
    @entername9179 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1667

    any cavs fan will tell you our team failed him but then non cavs fans will try and say that it was lebrons fault
    Edit: The comments under this prove my point😂

    • @frameddonut1056
      @frameddonut1056 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +128

      What do y'all think about the reaction people had when Lebron left nowadays?
      Because it was pretty ugly to see and it made the 2010 Cavs fans look like a bunch of immature adults crying about a player taking his career into his own hands.
      But then again, I'm not even American or a Cavs fan, so I don't know what it feels like to have the "Chosen One" in my team just to loose him for nothing in free agency lol

    • @entername9179
      @entername9179 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +182

      ​@@frameddonut1056 hes definitely loved here nowadays hes our biggest legend. the reaction was very bad at first because people didn't want to see him leave. after he won us a chip and people started thinking about it with less emotion they started to realize how much he did for our team

    • @leo_wentzel
      @leo_wentzel 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      @@frameddonut1056coming from a non Cavs fan, their reaction really wasn’t that bad lmao. Anytime a star player leaves a team the fans always take it personally, and we see it in every sport: jersey burnings, signs, social media posts etc.
      One would say Cavs fans are mature as they welcomed back Bron with open arms and didn’t just blindly hate him cus he left when the organization was sorry.

    • @johndebono1870
      @johndebono1870 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      @@frameddonut1056 I'm a Toronto fan, so have strong feelings about LeBron.
      Having the greatest comeback in finals history will get you a lot of goodwill.

    • @mhead1117
      @mhead1117 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      It was lebrons fault

  • @user-jw5qj8kv2y
    @user-jw5qj8kv2y 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +520

    LeBron left the Cavs because of their organizational failures. After drafting the 18 year old kid that was deemed ‘The Chosen One’ he lived up to and exceeded all expectations. LeBron James gave the Cavs 7 seasons of the best basketball an organization could ask for and they failed him. In those 7 seasons the cavs failed to hit on any draft picks and they also didn’t trade for another star. Still with no co-star LeBron managed to drag that cavs team to the finals in the 2006-2007 season where they got swept by Tim Duncan’s spurs despite LeBron having the most points and assists in the series. People like to bash LeBron for leaving the Cavs but they don’t know what they’re talking about, he gave them everything. It’s not LeBron’s fault for the cavs front office failures because given the situation, he was damn near perfect on the court.

    • @charles-cjbox4661
      @charles-cjbox4661 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Danny Ferry, Jim Paxson, Dan Gilbert going to hell for deplorable decision

    • @ricardolozano5356
      @ricardolozano5356 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      how does a bad team win 66 games

    • @amastargaming5156
      @amastargaming5156 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@ricardolozano5356lebron

    • @gokuswanson2037
      @gokuswanson2037 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +80

      ​@ricardolozano5356 when they have the greatest player in history bad teams can win games

    • @ricardolozano5356
      @ricardolozano5356 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @gokuswanson2037 who's fault is it when they lose?

  • @Joswag
    @Joswag 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +885

    I don’t blame him a bit for leaving
    It’s alarming when your best teammate is Mo Willams

    • @RarelyEvenn
      @RarelyEvenn 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +143

      I mean Mo Williams was a pretty good player. But if that's the BEST YOU CAN GIVE HIM? Thats pathetic.

    • @Betroid
      @Betroid 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@RarelyEvennyou taking mo Williams over Scottie pippen?

    • @user-wt5lm9kv1q
      @user-wt5lm9kv1q 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Mo williams , 2009 all star

    • @user-wt5lm9kv1q
      @user-wt5lm9kv1q 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@Betroidscottie pippen , THE ONLY ALL STAR JORDAN PLAYER WITH , when rodman joined he was aged
      LEBRON played with SIXTEEN 16!

    • @Betroid
      @Betroid 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@user-wt5lm9kv1q who!?

  • @ktkeef8494
    @ktkeef8494 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +125

    I always said this , “LeGm” Bron only became a thing because of those 7 years in Cleveland! He most likely got ptsd from organizations thanks to those Cleveland years 😂

    • @razkable
      @razkable 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah but miami got him bosh wade chalmers haslem miller jones joel battier cole ray lewis andersen plus turiaf bibby big z house juwan pittman harris beasley over 4 years and he still left ...can't do better than that with the money draft and trade restrictions they were facing....thats a great run of players they added that contributed to titles and finals runs ...not a single wasted player there....

    • @yvngxsensai
      @yvngxsensai 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      @@razkableMiami didn’t get him wade and bosh, the players agreed amongst themselves all to sign to the same place at the same time

    • @Aextra101
      @Aextra101 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@razkablewell he left Miami for 2 reasons. 1. Wade and Bosh’s health were uncertain, especially Wade’s at the time. So it wasn’t clear if they could run it back and contend for another title. 2. He has unfinished business in Cleveland, now that they had Kyrie, Thompson, and Dion who only missed the playoffs by 2-3 games that year, all they needed was Lebron to be contenders. Kevin Love was just a sweetener.

    • @yc99official95
      @yc99official95 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      i think the pressure on the front office stems from not wanting to repeat the same mistakes the cavs organization did in his 1st stint, but since his 2nd stint, especially when it was winding down, there was mounting pressure to make moves to build a team around lebron, that's why the cavs blew up their team twice in a span of around 5-6 months
      lebron not getting enough help during his 1st stint with the cavs, inadvertently did result in him having a very large influence in the front office decision-making where they had to acquire pieces that would help him, thus the "LeGM" thing

    • @captaincurt396
      @captaincurt396 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Acting like the East wasn’t absolutely Putrid during that time. The West was filled with juggernauts

  • @Sai4651
    @Sai4651 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +90

    4:49 - The instant I heard mental health I knew that a Better Help Ad was coming

  • @bballtotal
    @bballtotal 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1343

    It’s still crazy to me that LeBron led that awful 2007 Squad to the FINALS 🤯

    • @manzac112
      @manzac112 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +167

      Okay, they weren't that bad. They had a really good defense and good coaching. They couldn't get any offensive to help LeBron ever since Carlos Boozer walked in free agency.

    • @hhtptai
      @hhtptai 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +80

      All time carry job.

    • @juniorgonzalez3900
      @juniorgonzalez3900 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Quit discrediting him. They were AWFUL. @@manzac112

    • @jumpman2326
      @jumpman2326 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

      Lebron carried them to the finals that year.

    • @transcribeded
      @transcribeded 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +91

      ​@@manzac112they were the 4th ranked defense in the league. Really not a bad team.

  • @PER578
    @PER578 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +81

    I am huge lebron fan, but i wasn't around with his first stint with the cavs and this documentary helps me understand him much better

    • @razkable
      @razkable 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No it doesn't....lebron choked a bunch back then...fact is he had enough to make many finals with the cavs and win the 2010 title

    • @ineveryuniverse3953
      @ineveryuniverse3953 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      @@razkableI really hope your joking…because it doesn’t take a genius to know he had FAR from enough to win a finals in that first stint

    • @lolomo5787
      @lolomo5787 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      ⁠@@razkablehe had enough to make the finals? The moment he left cleaveland started getting number 1 picks lol. He is carrying scrubs his first stint and cleaveland. Im not even a lebron or cavs fan

    • @BooBooDaFoo330
      @BooBooDaFoo330 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@razkable LMAO he led this shit franchise to the finals in 2007 and had back to back win 60 seasons in 2009 and 2010 and averaged 30 in the playoffs. Yeah he definitely choked

    • @bmbrowns1778
      @bmbrowns1778 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @le Jordan wouldn't have done sh*t with that cavs team either. Jordan is nothing without Pippen. top 5 player of his time and Jordan had him his whole career
      edit. Not whole career but for all of his rings

  • @not_marxus7458
    @not_marxus7458 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    congrats on the first sponsorship man, glad to see your hard work paying off 🎉🎉

    • @theshooterman3
      @theshooterman3 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      his first sponsorship is with a shady company :(

    • @jacobporter419
      @jacobporter419 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      His first sponsor was a god awful company

  • @DeadPlayin
    @DeadPlayin 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    holy smokes, these videos are so well made bro 🙏 it’s always a great time watching them. great music choices too 🫡

    • @solemagus4761
      @solemagus4761 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      * Shot for 22ppg, .395fg, .200 3pt, .69 FT% and commited 23 of the Cavs 44 turnovers in 07 Finals while Media and Bronsexuals blamed teammates

  • @aappaapp6627
    @aappaapp6627 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I love the editing and memes you've been including recently!

    • @Courtside3661
      @Courtside3661 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I made a video on how incrediable Lebron James was during his tenure with the Miami Heat, If you could check it out it would be much appreciated.

  • @EricTheActor805
    @EricTheActor805 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Do a video on The 2004 Charlotte Bobcats Expansion Team
    They tried to do the smart thing and tried to build a team for the future, it didnt work, all of their picks were busts. They sucked.
    How do you think they would have done if they built a win now team?
    In the expansion draft they could have taken veterans like Antoine Walker from Dallas, Jerry Stackhouse from Washington, Chucky Atkins from Boston, Eddie Jones from Miami, Ruben Patterson from Portland and some younger guys like Matt Barnes from LAC, Jason Kapono from Cleveland, Zaza Pachulia from Orlando, Gerald Wallace from Sacramento
    In the draft they would have had the 4th pick and their choice of Shaun Livingston, Devin Harris, Josh Childress or Luol Deng. None are franchise cornerstones but all had better careers than Emeka Okafor
    I think that would have been a year 1 playoff team with a 29 year old Jerry Stackhouse getting 15/3/2 in 30mpg at SG/SF and a 27 year old Antoine Walker giving 20/9 at PF,
    I think that Bobcats team, with the sake of hindsight knowing how bad they were at drafting and developing talent and knowing how leadless they were. They definitely would have benefited from having a more veteran roster and they would have benefited from having later picks in the draft, assuming that's a playoff team the first 2 or 3 years.
    The Bobcats expansion draft is a super intetesting topic thats never talked about. Looking back with the benefit of hindsight, what do you think was the best possible team they could have built with the expansion draft and their 2004 draft picks?

  • @jamesultranba
    @jamesultranba 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

    Yessir it’s always a good day when Dylan uploads

  • @stringfalafel7692
    @stringfalafel7692 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    Respect for the pokemon music 💯

  • @mobilebosco
    @mobilebosco 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love to see you getting a sponsor man!! Your content is always so entertaining you deserve all the success

  • @jimmytheenlightenedcentrist
    @jimmytheenlightenedcentrist 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Dylan I love the P5 soundtrack choices. You use that shit real well.

  • @zaidkidwai7831
    @zaidkidwai7831 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Love your videos man. Great storytelling and editing.

    • @AlanBaller10
      @AlanBaller10 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      His vids are ass lol he's a nobody talking about NBA players how they failed lol bro don't talk about how he's falling in his life rn lol tf this guy do huh

    • @Courtside3661
      @Courtside3661 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I made a video on how incrediable Lebron James was during his tenure with the Miami Heat, If you could check it out it would be much appreciated.

  • @RomnysGonzalez
    @RomnysGonzalez 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +151

    The 2009 finals... The Kobe vs LeBron final is forever gonna be one of the biggest "what if" in sport history

    • @wavoe368
      @wavoe368 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      As a kid I was so excited for this matchup

    • @jamalwalker
      @jamalwalker 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Lakers win in 5

    • @hsfazal00
      @hsfazal00 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@jamalwalkerbron & the cavs winning in 6

    • @darnellwilliams8783
      @darnellwilliams8783 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@hsfazal00Lebron choked against the Magic in 09 yall gotta stop lying lebron had help he had Big Z mo willaims boobie Gibson and Ben Wallace and drew Gooden

    • @williamtoad8040
      @williamtoad8040 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Unfortunately Dwight happened to choke the shit out of those finals who went from 25.8ppg on 65% FG in the 2009 ECF to 15.5ppg on 48% FG in the Finals

  • @jalen4945
    @jalen4945 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Your videos are great man keep it up!!

  • @gunprojects5398
    @gunprojects5398 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    love the subtle nod to the Corneria theme from SSBM lol

  • @OsyrisCorleone
    @OsyrisCorleone 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

    Bro’s a JRPG fan, I love it lol

    • @sfzndo
      @sfzndo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      facts, when the persona 5 mementos music hit I was vibing

    • @JJ23
      @JJ23 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Dog ever since playing persona 5 I swear I can’t do anything without hearing at least one song off the sound track (it’s so good I love it)

    • @OsyrisCorleone
      @OsyrisCorleone 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JJ23 ahahaha I peeped the xenosaga too

    • @jacobswerbensky662
      @jacobswerbensky662 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I thought my playlist was playing over the video for a second when freedom and peace came on 😂

    • @syts77
      @syts77 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Ok nerds

  • @raavenzen6100
    @raavenzen6100 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    The super mario 64 music in the background is just 👌

  • @brokenglass0642
    @brokenglass0642 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is a great part 1, cant wait to see what part 2 looks like!

    • @Courtside3661
      @Courtside3661 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I made a video on how incrediable Lebron James was during his tenure with the Miami Heat, If you could check it out it would be much appreciated.

  • @cl5rys
    @cl5rys 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    couldnt have said it better, ive thought of this for a long time but recently it really hit me then i see this

  • @kawhileonardsburner6792
    @kawhileonardsburner6792 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +372

    The title should really be “How the Cleveland Cavaliers failed LeBron James”
    Edit: w title change

    • @MadGunny
      @MadGunny 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

      That’s what the title is now, what was it before?

    • @SnuggieMaple
      @SnuggieMaple 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MadGunnyidk

    • @kawhileonardsburner6792
      @kawhileonardsburner6792 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      @@MadGunnyit was “how lebron james failed the Cleveland Cavaliers”

    • @sparkyfister
      @sparkyfister 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@kawhileonardsburner6792 that's what it should be

    • @slinkybeans2442
      @slinkybeans2442 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@sparkyfisternuh uh

  • @Westlander857_FKA_Zephyr
    @Westlander857_FKA_Zephyr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    15:30 I had foot surgery the day LBJ hit that buzzer beater, and I remember springing up from my chair right onto my wounded foot. Thankfully I didn’t mess it up any more, but that’s one his top career highlights for sure.

  • @1farin
    @1farin 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    These video qualities are getting better and better

  • @IliasKoureas
    @IliasKoureas 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Congrats on your first Sponsor brother!

  • @Gator656
    @Gator656 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Bro PLEASE POST MORE

  • @tzwen70
    @tzwen70 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Love the videos

  • @thehomiejonathan3720
    @thehomiejonathan3720 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    DYLAN UPLOADED AND ON A FRIDAY TOO 💯🎉

  • @euro51116
    @euro51116 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +97

    I've always thought that Lebron being drafted by his hometown Cavs, and thus having his legacy be attached to them forever, was the worst thing that could have happened for his career.

    • @dusk6159
      @dusk6159 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      It's the best to me, in abstract and substantially, the challenge, the connection, the ride, the downs, the thriving, the adversities.
      The 2016 comeback though, it's mainly because of that of course. Perfect.
      Thank god that he left and went to another eastern team though. And then returned ready and with some great moments like the 2012 series vs the Celtics and the 2012 Finals.
      If he was a Zion instead, of course It would've been already a ruined situation from the start and without anything to show for.

    • @ericejoaquin
      @ericejoaquin 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      In retrospect him leaving taught him how to win at the highest level. When he came back to the Cavs he knew what was necessary from himself and his teammates.

    • @jonathank786
      @jonathank786 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Honestly it’s not a bad case but his career still went a good direction does make you think how dominant he’d be on any decent team in that era

    • @euro51116
      @euro51116 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      @@dusk6159 2016 alone would put anyone else in the HOF, First ballot. I agree when Chuck says he is the greatest sports story of all time, but still i feel like had he drafted to a even remotely competent team, like Curry, KD, DWade, or MJ he would be the undisputed goat (and im a bulls fan lol)
      People give him shit calling him "LeGM" but its always been a compliment to me. It's because of the content in this video that he had to build that mindset because he couldnt trust his own front office to do any moves. Curry nor MJ ever had to lead and manage to magnitude of LeBron because they had organically built culture and elite coaching to rely on, Lebron never got to have that luxury outside of maayybe Miami (even then it wasnt to the level of the warriors or bulls).
      I still can't believe the Cavs owner publicly shitting on Lebron while he was already being shit on, the hate is uncomparable lol

    • @dusk6159
      @dusk6159 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@euro51116 You're right on, that's the main point (plus wondering the if "everything was easier, set up and conducive to rack up things and greatness", he might even wonder and want that more than the ideal unanimous support for his boatload of hard and harsh adversities and accomplishments, which who knows if he would do and accept all over again, but I and we are for sure thankful that he doesn't have a magical choice of that kind). But, although I am more talking from a specific viewer perspective, not the majority of viewer's one, instead of if I were him, I would still stick with that story, past (not intending and meaning to necessarily mention the life stuff, although the struggle of not having a father contributes to the magic, hope and battle - despite being always blessed and talented in skills and body of course - , and ultimate success), rise and comeback. It is just special and also outside of the standard things (MJ's doing being for example superior to any other, even over Kareem and his own titles, besides the evaluation with Lebron who holds up).
      After all, rightfully so obviously, there are still loads of sectors calling him the goat.

  • @demonreacts7816
    @demonreacts7816 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +109

    Those Cavs were 60+ win teams sometimes, but what’s sad about em is that most of it was cuz of LeBron. It’s also sad that revisionists use those Cavs teams to criticize him, as if Mo Williams, Larry Huges, an old Shaq and Big Z was apparently more than enough help for him.

    • @volkarach0293
      @volkarach0293 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      excuses for lebron. big z was one of the best centers in the nba at this time...kids today didnt witness the time and lebron fan goofballs from back in the days forgott the reality

    • @kolovikon2118
      @kolovikon2118 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Well let me get it clear: if it's 60+ wins team it's because of LbJ if they fail it's because teammates suck? How about "LBJ makes his teammates better" or it only works with the all-stars?

    • @jadencedras6878
      @jadencedras6878 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Like at no point did anyone think they were actually gonna get a series on the lakers spurs and later the celtics while they were good defensively they were a horrible offensive team relying on lebron to carry and those spurs magic and celtic series show it

    • @demonreacts7816
      @demonreacts7816 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

      @@volkarach0293 I grew up in the 2000s, at no point was Big Z up there with guys like Shaq, Ben Wallace, Dwight Howard, Yao Ming or even Marcus Camby. Hell, even if u count PFs that played center, like Dirk, Timmy D, KG or Amar’e, Big Z wasn’t even in the top 10. “Kids these days.” All the comments I see from u is complaining about LeBron LIKE a kid, ur point literally has no meaning.

    • @mcjr1989
      @mcjr1989 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Iverson had more trash teammates but he still won games against laker in finals

  • @redriot3008
    @redriot3008 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Whenever I watch Dylan’s video I always sit down and grab something to eat it’s like a mini movie 🍿 ❤

  • @TomSports._
    @TomSports._ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    DYLAN WITH ANOTHER VIDEOOOO

  • @87alock
    @87alock 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    9:17. Man that roster made me physically cringe

    • @Joswag
      @Joswag 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Look at the 2001 Sixers to be disgusted as well

    • @Bigedub101
      @Bigedub101 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Exactly and they act like that's a Finals roster to go up against. Prime Dùncan,Parker and Ginobli

    • @Mrballerize
      @Mrballerize 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Tripping. That was a solid defensive roster, with all star help in Zydrunas Ilgaskus; and all nba 1st team defensive help in Larry Hughes.

    • @razkable
      @razkable 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@Bigedub101I mean 9 of those 10 that played were the core of the next year finals team plus they kept newble as well and he played so that makes 10...just add rookie gibson replace murray with him plus play more sasha less snow and damon and you have the main 11 playoff rotation guys on a finals team...the 12th man played like a few minutes total in the playoffs that year so....

    • @razkable
      @razkable 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Joswagsnow is on both teams what a coniciendence

  • @ForzasPanda
    @ForzasPanda 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Never thought I’d hear “Respect Your Elders” from Smash Melee on an NBA video 😭😭

  • @watershed6092
    @watershed6092 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    6:15 The Cavs didn’t trade two unprotected first round picks for him.
    They traded their own 2007 pick - which was top-10 protected.
    They already owed their 2005 playoff-protected pick to Charlotte, and in order to complete the Jiri Welsch deal they chose to unprotected.
    I know this is a mouthful, but you really should clarify this when you are making a video.

    • @JWex-jy7sk
      @JWex-jy7sk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That and when he talks about Larry Hughes and Michael Redd he says “They chose the wrong guy”
      Well they didn’t choose Hughes. I’m a Bucks fan and can tell you Redd has gone out and said it was loyalty that had him re-sign with Milwaukee. They were kind of left with no choice but to chose Hughes cause Redd rejected them

  • @hlb_thegoat272
    @hlb_thegoat272 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i love your vids brooooo they so good

    • @Jxmybuckets
      @Jxmybuckets 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yooooo its me jxmy

    • @hlb_thegoat272
      @hlb_thegoat272 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      hello jxmy !!
      @@Jxmybuckets

  • @ReeverN21
    @ReeverN21 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That Mario 64 music at 13:20 🔥🔥

  • @ricardojurado5544
    @ricardojurado5544 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Let’s gooo new video

  • @SnuggieMaple
    @SnuggieMaple 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    It will always make me angry how the Cavaliers fans reacted to Lebron leaving when he carried the franchise so much even that bum team to the finals!
    And then when he finally was done with it and left they burned the home town hero’s jerseys

    • @Courtside3661
      @Courtside3661 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I made a video on how incrediable Lebron James was during his tenure with the Miami Heat, If you could check it out it would be much appreciated.

  • @richborn6700
    @richborn6700 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Secret Base also has a really in depth two part documentary about the Cavaliers. Part one is the formation and early struggles, part two is an hour long video on LeBrons first stint in Cleveland. I recommend watching both

  • @newpancakeman
    @newpancakeman 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    AYY MY BOY GETTING SPONSORSHIPS NOW!!

  • @vladleon2307
    @vladleon2307 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    The 21 years of seeking help. This guy took "stop it, get some help" to literally

    • @Betroid
      @Betroid 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Mj didn’t have to look his legendary gm sat hall of fame players on his lap

  • @carlpacquing2575
    @carlpacquing2575 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    14:00 - Love the Persona 5 music!

  • @courtneymitchell5940
    @courtneymitchell5940 หลายเดือนก่อน

    11:44 Boston with the bowser music???! Yes! 🙌🏾 😂

  • @BBallGOAT
    @BBallGOAT 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +62

    Thanks for this Dylan. A lot of MJ and Kobe fans blame LeBron for leaving Cleveland, but Cleveland never really built a solid supporting cast around LeBron. MJ threatened to leave in his earlier years as mentioned in Sam Smith's 1991 Jordan Rules book, and Kobe threatened to leave the Lakers for the Bulls I believe in 2007 after losing 4-1 in the Western Conference First Round vs the Phoenix Suns. I'm ok if you think MJ is the GOAT, I think the whole GOAT Debate is really subjective at the end of the day, but LeBron left Cleveland because they were not building around him and also there are rumours of personal issues with teammates.

    • @MigIgg
      @MigIgg 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Yeah, and if it wasn’t for Scottie Pippen stepping up at the time and the Lakers acquiring Pau Gasol, then things would have been alot different today

    • @kurtcometa4818
      @kurtcometa4818 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      The difference is the competence of their respective teams. The Bulls and the Lakers handle their stars' frustrations by making smart moves by drafting or trading great players to complement their stars and it paid off. I once hate Lebron because of this move but I'm still young back then and don't know shit so looking back I'm thinking right now that shit I'm glad Bron left that sorry ass organization

    • @orbit5311
      @orbit5311 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      for the record i think Kobe is the goat and i don’t blame lebron for leaving

    • @juliuscaesar6994
      @juliuscaesar6994 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bruh, lebron won in CLE😂.. Thanks kyrie lmfao.. But beside the fact, it's not like he's had trouble finding help, so why leave???.. Because he was losing?? Nobody else have 6Ls but bron

    • @bmbrowns1778
      @bmbrowns1778 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@juliuscaesar6994 nobody else has 6 Ls in the finals because they aren’t good enough to go to the finals 10 times. What a stupid argument

  • @monkeymoo87
    @monkeymoo87 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    Lmao Cavs didn’t want to trade JJ Hickson and Igauskas 😂

    • @dusk6159
      @dusk6159 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Just shameful

    • @bfns23
      @bfns23 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Pathetic. LeBron should've left way sooner. Then the owner had the nerve to write that abysmal letter slandering LeBron. What a punk

    • @IcePhoen1x694
      @IcePhoen1x694 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Yeah wtf was he thinking? Originally I knew the cavs office was incompentent, but I didn't know they passed up on Stoudemire to keep a 2k generated player JJ Hickson. And then lebron left and he said cavs would win before lebron. Like what?

    • @razkable
      @razkable 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They didn't want to risk losing young cheap trade asset hickson for just a few months of amare without lebron committing to stay...they could of lost amare and lebron that summer and it didn't guarantee a title...jamison made more spacing sense with varejao shaq big z on the roster...

    • @YGacs
      @YGacs หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@razkable nah. the cavs DEFINITELY would've reached or even won the finals if they had amare that season. If the cavs were close to beating the celtics WITHOUT amare, imagine what they could've done if he WAS there.

  • @theycallmekobi
    @theycallmekobi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I haven't watched the video and i know this is banger

  • @Noifsnobutsnococonuts-rj4kk
    @Noifsnobutsnococonuts-rj4kk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The legend is back

  • @schmidtytime
    @schmidtytime 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    babe wake up, dylandoesbasketball dropped a new video

  • @JamRap
    @JamRap 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Persona music goes crazy

  • @flynch4358
    @flynch4358 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    love the vid as well as the persona 5 bg music❤

  • @jotelesmash8566
    @jotelesmash8566 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No way you used persona 5 music for this vid, damm man love this video.

  • @sychobones3788
    @sychobones3788 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Michael redd has gone on record saying he chose the bucks. Larry hughes was the 3rd option they wanted, first 2 being ray allen, then michael redd. Get ya facts straight bro

    • @DMalltheway
      @DMalltheway 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He chose the $$$$

    • @sychobones3788
      @sychobones3788 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@DMalltheway from the interview, I saw it sounded like it was more a comfort thing since he started his career in Milwaukee, and they took a chance on him with him being a second rounder. I believe he stated that on all the smoke, but I may be wrong. He also said that he regrets not going to Cleveland because he feels like if he was on the Cavs when they played the Spurs they could’ve won.

    • @DMalltheway
      @DMalltheway 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@sychobones3788 Cavs didn’t offer as much as MIL, that’s what it came down to and honestly it wouldn’t have made the Cavs much better.

  • @paulusrumanouw3176
    @paulusrumanouw3176 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Cleveland in 2009 & 2010 was actually seeded no.1 in the league with 66w and 61w, so they did have a strong team to win it all or at least expected to be in the Finals with home court advantage through out.

    • @razkable
      @razkable 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The 2010 cavs were built to make the finals and challenge bryant....lebron had already decided the summer before that he was leaving...that 10 cavs team after the jamison trade was nice af...they had delonte varejao gibson hickson big z off the bench with shaq jamison bron mo will and parker starting...in 2010 that's a finals roster

    • @paulusrumanouw3176
      @paulusrumanouw3176 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@razkable yeah so the notion that the Cavs organization failed LBJ by surrounding him with bums is not entirely true!

    • @TheForkOnTheLeftist
      @TheForkOnTheLeftist หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@paulusrumanouw3176of course it isn't. someone should make a video comparing that Magic/Cavs series to Nuggets/Lakers last year. The team is good enough, but is Lebron good enough in the big moments?

    • @Jacob-zf3zs
      @Jacob-zf3zs หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@TheForkOnTheLeftistexpecting LeBron to carry this team at 39 is the biggest reach typical Michael Jorgamble fanboy 😭🙏

    • @TheForkOnTheLeftist
      @TheForkOnTheLeftist หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Jacob-zf3zs first off Kobe is my goat so great job assuming and being wrong lol. Secondly, who said anything about carrying? The team got him into the big moment and he gagged. Game one he missed an idiotic early shot clock 3, game 2 he missed a practically wide open layup, and game four he missed two straight clutch shots in a row when he had wide open teammates. You can't even make the dumb excuse that he "made the right play" lol he choked just like many other years. Keep slurping though

  • @jasonvelasco90
    @jasonvelasco90 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Dylan you always cook bro

  • @quanttg3
    @quanttg3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That “huh” at 18:15 killed me 😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @nathanlong1908
    @nathanlong1908 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    1st team all cardio is hilarious 🤣

  • @0AEROPLANES0
    @0AEROPLANES0 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    KEEP THE GOAT VID COMING

  • @SCSAsJorts
    @SCSAsJorts 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The more and more as time went the Cavs Org and fan bases reaction to him using his well, free agent ability was so wild, they never needed to “break the bank” but literally never seemed to try and make savvy moves

  • @jacobswerbensky662
    @jacobswerbensky662 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hearing Freedom and Peace come on made me a happy NBA/Persona fan 😂

  • @alfasiger4178
    @alfasiger4178 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Nuggets got the same problem regarding reliance. When Jokic goes off the floor, they dont know what to do. Too much reliance on one player increases losing chances.

    • @Idontknowhoiamanymore
      @Idontknowhoiamanymore 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Difference Jokic won a ring

    • @Vyuel
      @Vyuel 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Nuggets still good tho, didn't they beat the clippers without Jamal Murray and Jokic by like 20 earlier this season? An actual WORLD of difference in supporting cast lmao

    • @alfasiger4178
      @alfasiger4178 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@VyuelYeah, but lost every other game with both teams having full rosters.

    • @gokuswanson2037
      @gokuswanson2037 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​@@Idontknowhoiamanymorethe difference is Joker had a solid team and great Robin

    • @Idontknowhoiamanymore
      @Idontknowhoiamanymore 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@gokuswanson2037 you guys love making excuses for lefraud

  • @fevers94
    @fevers94 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I love your vids but saying the Cavs chose Hughes over Redd is a straight up falsehood. The Cavs offered Redd the maximum amount of money they could and he chose to re-sign with the bucks. They obviously wanted him more but there is nothing more they could have done. Its easy to dunk on them for not getting the guy in hindsight but shitty to say they chose anyone over him when they offered him the max they could and he didnt want to sign regardless.

    • @watershed6092
      @watershed6092 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Exactly. I like his videos too but he’s missing many key aspects, including the Jiri Welsch trade, which I commented about. The Cavs did not trade two unprotected first round picks.

  • @arfaannoermahomed3443
    @arfaannoermahomed3443 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Can you make a video about the new orleans Hornets

  • @lukacostanza5793
    @lukacostanza5793 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yo I never heard about that Welsh deal before that shit is wild lol

  • @spjr99
    @spjr99 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    I am a LeBron fan. I am also a jordan fan. They accomplished different things. If LeBron for his first seven years had got proper help, or at the very least not completely incompetent front office, I would conservatively assume he would have another ring. It is just crazy to see them give up on amazing players for dogshit ones

    • @gokuswanson2037
      @gokuswanson2037 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Jordan was in a good situation. Not good enough to win but not bad enough to get great picks (very similar to lebron except Jordan's teams were a bit worse) I agree with your assessment. It's rare to see people make logical points like this, well done

    • @Dimesprodz
      @Dimesprodz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m a fan of both too 😂. I’m too young for the Jordan era but he’s my favorite all time and Bron’s my seconds favorite.

    • @PHXNKVHXLIC
      @PHXNKVHXLIC 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Would MJ have left Chicago for a better fit if Chicago never got Scottie? MJ fans don’t want to admit that acting like MJ was any good with mid rosters. The man has a negative W-L record in his career without Scottie and 1-9 in playoff series lol

    • @1stAmendmentorDie1776
      @1stAmendmentorDie1776 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@gokuswanson2037jordan came into s way worse situation.

    • @1stAmendmentorDie1776
      @1stAmendmentorDie1776 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@PHXNKVHXLICwould scottie have been who he wss without the goat next to him. No.
      Yall over hyping scottie so much.
      Meanwhile lebron has been outplayed by numerous guys in the finals.

  • @justlookingaround5476
    @justlookingaround5476 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Loved this video. Maybe video of Kobe’s legacy after Shaq left and his back to back?

  • @Torchim49
    @Torchim49 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Danny Granger video next pls

  • @alanboi9470
    @alanboi9470 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Finally a Cleveland LeBron video

  • @d444nnyy
    @d444nnyy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    babe wake up dylan posted

  • @babypluto1944
    @babypluto1944 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Am I tripping or is that Pokémon music in the background? I love it

  • @loudy12
    @loudy12 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    3:49 the way the cavs let boozer go was nasty worl

    • @razkable
      @razkable 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They replaced boozer money with gooden varejao more big z and marshall plus big ben...I think it worked personally....boozer wasn't worth it...they had more depth without him over those years after 04

  • @1peidu
    @1peidu 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    19:20 We just gonna gloss over this one?

  • @rjcarless
    @rjcarless 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Biggest mistake was not trading JJ Hickson for Amare Stoudemire.

  • @Delaretro_
    @Delaretro_ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Pokémon music in the background 👍

  • @chilidili
    @chilidili 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ummmmmm is Dylandoesbasketball a smash fan???!!! love this background music at 1:42 lol

    • @chilidili
      @chilidili 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ok I'm hearing more melee music at 9:00. Dylan, let's play on slippi

  • @uncleGravey5
    @uncleGravey5 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    This guy is the Emplemon of basketball, I love it 😂👍🏼💯

  • @christophermauro-barias7451
    @christophermauro-barias7451 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    im so glad players like Kobe and MJ didnt give up and People like Jerry Buss and Krause werent stupid

    • @razkable
      @razkable 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Kobe was given shaq ceballos elden van exel old scott and horry to start and then got jones and fox and then harper and a.c. shaw and rice...he was fine early on....

    • @christophermauro-barias7451
      @christophermauro-barias7451 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      given? no more like they were already there lol@@razkable

    • @BooBooDaFoo330
      @BooBooDaFoo330 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Bruh what are you talking about? Kobe was ready to walk outta LA in 2008 until Jerry West saved his ass with Pau Gasol

    • @christophermauro-barias7451
      @christophermauro-barias7451 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BooBooDaFoo330 you mean when he wanted a trade and said it publicly and rescinded it after he was talked to by the org?

    • @BooBooDaFoo330
      @BooBooDaFoo330 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@christophermauro-barias7451 do you remember when Kobe quitted in game 7 against the Suns in 2006 after blowing a 3-1 lead 😂

  • @aslangonen2899
    @aslangonen2899 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    would love to see a video like “how kobe won 2 championships without shaq” from you idk i’m just a big kobe fan and you make great videos keep it up 👍🏼

  • @lilyt..
    @lilyt.. 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I googled that Larry Hughes website. Weird times lol

  • @breonwilliams7
    @breonwilliams7 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I never understood why the Cavaliers couldn’t get LeBron the help he needed in his first stint with them, but in his 2nd stint he got a lot more help. I feel like it’s because in LeBron 2nd run with the Cavs he knew what it took to win a championship.

    • @TheForkOnTheLeftist
      @TheForkOnTheLeftist หลายเดือนก่อน

      LeBron Stans still make the same excuse no matter how much help he gets. No one wants to consider maybe he's just not that guy

  • @JuanTonSoupXP
    @JuanTonSoupXP 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Can we get an elbow reveal? The people wanna see bro

  • @robertgibson963
    @robertgibson963 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Who do u main in melee dylan

  • @jackspalding8468
    @jackspalding8468 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You should make a video on how Dwight Howard gave up on the Magic, what led to his trade request, etc. Think that would be interesting

  • @t-god2439
    @t-god2439 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Also lebron beating the pistons imo is the pistons own fault. If they kept Ben Wallace. I don’t think Lebron is scoring 25 straight. As you can see the bulls had the #1 defense. And who did they have? Ben Wallace

  • @Nahaintnoway
    @Nahaintnoway 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Babe wake up Dylan did more basketball

  • @calebwilliams6414
    @calebwilliams6414 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Man plz do one about the John wall wizards era

  • @JohnEmmanuel-sc9qu
    @JohnEmmanuel-sc9qu 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    First Team All-Cardio is crazy 💀💀

  • @bandzyolo
    @bandzyolo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Cavs should of pulled a spurs move and tank once they saw bron really was him imagine if they got a top 3 pick early in bron career

    • @gokuswanson2037
      @gokuswanson2037 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lebron was literally too good to tank lol. MJ was able to help his team more by being worse in his early years

    • @user-zy3kz1lw6b
      @user-zy3kz1lw6b 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That was the problem LeBron was Good that there was not tank and when they missed the playoffs the first two years they were draft busts

  • @ominoustranquillity
    @ominoustranquillity 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Needs more help.

  • @swiftcraft824
    @swiftcraft824 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Am I the only one to notice the song from Slam in the Monster Gauntlet in Geometry Dash at 6:35???

  • @razkable
    @razkable 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    By autumn 2009 they finally got him true help again for the first time really since his rookie year i guess they sorta got him help in 2006 with hughes but by then it was too late he had decided to leave and they were built for 1 title run anyways especially before the jamison trade....to be fair they did get him some help with delonte west and ben wallace as well but the celtics were stacked

  • @cloudvis383
    @cloudvis383 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    babe wake up, dylansoesbasketball posted (there is no babe i suffer from severe loneliness)

  • @_Paul_N
    @_Paul_N 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    LeBron should've toughed it out and stayed in Cleveland and probably would've won the city 1-3 more titles due to how garbage the Eastern Conference was at the time. One more decent role player would've taken the Cavs over the top since they cruised to the conference finals pretty much every year. Dude got impatient and took the easy way out when he joined the Heat. I don't care what anyone says 😄

  • @abcdlilbit11
    @abcdlilbit11 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    👍🏻

  • @SnuggieMaple
    @SnuggieMaple 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yep

  • @dejon18
    @dejon18 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That 07 run was very overrated. He didn't play a team with a winning record till the ecf 🤦🏿‍♂️

  • @Kbrwsg
    @Kbrwsg 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    does lebron not take any accountability?

    • @Disneymagic24
      @Disneymagic24 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      What did you want him to do? He literally did everything for this team and had only a few bad playoff series

    • @Angel_559_
      @Angel_559_ 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Accountability for what?

    • @retrictumrectus1010
      @retrictumrectus1010 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He did blame the officiating for losing a game, the game where he choked a three.