Jason Segel is Possibly the Worst Therapist Ever
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Shrinking is on Apple TV where Jason Segel and Harrison Ford are therapists. I love the idea of Han Solo as a therapist. This episode covers what cognitive behavioural therapy is, the importance of the professional relationship, Adderall and how it works, and that THERAPY IS NOT HARMLESS!!!
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Even though this show has some terrible therapy moments in it, I love it so much. My dad died two and a half months ago and this show is just so cathartic to watch. It gets how weird and hard life gets after someone you loved with your whole heart is now gone. It has made me feel less alone in my grief and less like nobody understands how grief effects you in so many ways.
Sorry about your loss, my uncle passed last week and he was my idol.
His family though turns out to hate me, and now I’m not even invited to the funeral
The main cause is we have the same first name and in our religion it was always some sort of bad luck to name someone after someone who is still alive.
So now I’m being punished for a name I never chose, and they make my dad pick which of his kids can come see his last brother off.
Again, sorry about your father
@@TikTacTow Gosh, that is very harsh. I have never heard of it before so I looked it up to understand, are you a Ashkenazi Jewish faith? When I can't attend a funeral I burn a memorial candle on the stove top so that it is in a safe place and can burn out by itself. When a dear friend's son committed suicide I did that and played Rodrigues, Cold Fact as I was in a very very dark mood. The right music and candle light might help a bit.
I'm so sorry for your loss; I hope, a year later, things are getting easier for you! I love this show too -- and while I appreciate a discussion about how TV shows treat therapy, I feel like this video perhaps misses that it's a COMEDY show?!
I really, really hope you continue with this series because many (most) of the concerns you bring up here start to get addressed. Some he is called out on, others get worse before they are checked, and others you simply start to see (as an audience) how problematic they are as the consequences play out. It's excellently done.
Yes, that’s the whole point of this series. Jimmy got issues. Watch the rest of it. Amazing story, amazing acting, amazing casts.
I think that self-disclosure by a therapist, if used strategically, can be used to build trust with a patient. For example, if a patient with addiction issues learns that their therapist once struggled with the same issues and has been in recovery for a long time, that could be used as a HUGE trust-building tool. It might even help overcome resistence. The same thing might go for a retired veteran-turned therapist who has a veteran for a patient who suffers from PTSD. Of course, it has to be done with care, and it all depends on the situation.
Too many addiction counselors I have worked with use their own recovery as their main treatment strategy. That’s what free 12 step and self-help groups are for, not paid professional therapy.
My first therapist spent at least half of every session talking about her or something from her life. I loved her, grew very attached to her, and it really did help me get over my terror around talking in the beginning. But I didn’t know what to expect from professional boundaries, she said she was sharing relevant information, and I should have never had to pay for sessions where she spent 20 minutes telling me the latest news about her battle with an insurance company, her supervisors, or professional board.
I spent 14 years with her was so attached that I couldn’t work with anyone else. When I couldn’t afford her prices I kept seeing her even as I was going through bankruptcy going to food pantries and borrowing money to pay my rent because I thought no one would ever understand me the way she did.
I ended up in the hospital and had never told her I was struggling with thoughts of ending myself for the 10 years I saw her because I was scared of never measuring up to her. I felt like my abuse could never be as bad as what she had been through, like my health issues would never be as grave as hers, like I would never measure up to her ability to triumph over everything.
The spell finally broke when I went back after a pause to address some pretty severe panic attacks. I mentioned that I had been hospitalized for diabetes and wanted to talk about my success in learning to manage it and my diet, all relevant to issues we had discussed for years. Instead of listening, she cut me off and spent the entire session telling me about how her friend cured his diabetes with a gluten free diet. My diabetes was life threatening, caused me to loose 50 pounds in 4 months, requires multiple daily insulin shots, constant blood sugar monitoring, and constant attention to everything I eat or drink and my level of exercise. I finally realized how absurd it all was and wondered how long I had been beating myself up for not succeeding with simplistic suggestions like a gluten free diet for very complex problems.
@@JHabc I’m sorry you went through that. I’m glad you got some crucial distance and clarity. That’s amazing.
If it helps anyone who stopped watching the show because of the representation of therapists being shown, I have watched up to the most recent episode and the show makes it VERY clear that what the main character is doing has a negative impact of his patients. All the “rewards” he initially experiences come back to bite him in the butt in his professional life and it becomes clear that he’s going rogue because he refuses to deal with his grief and how it has impacted his relationship with his daughter. The point of the show is to show therapists are messy and human just like the rest of us, that their education and training doesn’t make them immune to acting in maladaptive ways that hurt themselves and others.
This reminds me SO MUCH of my abusive therapy experience (ex therapist has lost his license). A lot of people really really don't grasp the damage that can be done in unethical therapy relationships. It's one of the most traumatic experiences of my life, and I already had a heavy trauma history going INTO the therapy.
I'm waiting for this show to have some consequences for the main hero. Otherwise it's just... harmful show
Wow. You did not deserve that. It angers me when there are crappy psychologists who do harm. Hope they never return to trying to “help” anyone.
@@xencmo4346 I don't intend to spoil too much but there are consequences for this kind of therapy
in show
@@RohanKumar-ci9sl I watched like 6 or 7 episodes and haven't seen any
But I still have hope))
I think, i might be on the wrong side of the internet, when my mind went to the other CBT.
😂
What other CBT?
@@tonyburton419 You don't want to know.
10 minutes in and I want to send this video to the new meds doctor I just got assigned to (my previous one, who was excellent, left). Among other things, he took a phone call from another patient in the middle of my appointment, talked over me, did the "why don't you just do x" thing (if I could "just do x" I wouldn't be here, it's called executive DYSfunction for a reason), etc.
I am now on the hunt for a new doctor because the clinic told me I couldn't switch to a different one even though I had massive issues with this guy.
It's honestly helpful seeing you react to the fictional dude doing similar things. Reassures me that I wasn't over-reacting.
This show reminds me a lot of In Treatment, which stars Gabriel Byrne (for the first 3 seasons) as a psychotherapist and each episode revolves around one of his patient's sessions. It's like a what not to do as a therapist.
Thank you so much for doing this reaction! I love this series and I'm so excited to see your full take on it.
My Nan died after suffering for years with Parkinson's, and my Mum has lived the larger part of her life with a similar neurological disease with dystonia. Seeing it portrayed on screen leaves me conflicted. I like that the struggles are getting visibility, but it feels very raw too. I don't know if I will give it a watch myself, but please give more commentary. I truly appreciate your insights ❤️
5:11 Elliott's face 🤣
Your concerns about the therapy are actually the premise of this part of the show. He's making it about himself. This does come out in a later episode. However, he has already integrated the one patient into his life, and his family's life. Movies and TV shows are all about "what if". It is not about how we replicate real life. .
I had a therapist who literally fell asleep while I was talking to him, he nearly fell off his chair! He apologized, said he had been on call. I made an effort to vary the cadence in my voice after that so I would be less boring.
I have had many a bad therapist. One ultimatum I got was to keep trying to adress things I saw in her behavior I found concerning, and, in her words, give up on ever getting better. Or try therapy without trust and do everything she said without ever questioning her...
I started with her already having past provider trauma and massive trust issues.
I didn't see any option but to do what she wanted. She destroyed me and I ended up,in a state where she had convinced me I was harming every person I came into contact regardless of my action or intention. I ended up attempting to self delete.
Loooved this! More, please.
When I talked about my cats with my last therapist- she tried in a couple of sessions to convince me to feed my cats a specific diet.
As a therapist, this show is simultaneously hilarious and infuriating.
I’m more of an MI, DBT, somatic experience therapist, but as far as og CBT…
1. Thought logs and journaling
2. Replacing automatic negative thoughts
3. Exposure therapy
4. Progressive muscle relaxation and breath work
5. Identifying coping mechanisms and replacing them with healthy coping mechanisms
Thanks for the reflection
1. Cognitive Restructuring: Mood disorders, GAD, PTSD, panic disorder
2. Exposure Therapy: specific phobias, PTSD, OCD
3. Behavioral Activation: MDD, GAD
4. Relaxation Techniques (progressive muscle relaxation, deep breathing, etc..): Anxiety, insomnia, day-to-day stress
5. Problem-Solving Skills Training: Mood disorders, anxiety disorders
I can think of three CBT skills/techniques which I use regularly off the top of my head, though I know many more exist. 1) self talk for anxiety, stress, and overthinking. 2) ABC worksheets for trauma, stress, and depression management. 3) reframing for anxiety, and bpd symptom management.
I really hope you continue with this show.
I'd just want to say that it seems to me that real friends can help people suffering from some form of mental issues just by being there (within a healthy limit). So, where this show seems interesting to me is when they as a therapist know that their patient has no friends and then they, as someone who wants (needs?) to help people, forget the important boundaries because they know the science and just want to prevent a bad outcome.
And, this being a show, of course has to reflect the protagonist through his patients and in that way say something about him and his problems dealing with his own mental issues.
Anyway, I found this show because I was looking for a comedy so I'm not taking it very seriously but I am happy to see Dr. Carthy talk about it.
No comment on his use of Catharsis with a probable PTSD patient? The evidence is pretty bad on that Freudian idea. For a CBT therapist, he sure seems into Freudian perspectives.
As an LMFT when he made that ultimatum to his patient, I also couldn’t breath. Yikes 😮😅
@10:20 It could have been a google number for work that goes through his phone. My practice does that.
This is maybe just me but if I yawn to express disinterest I am usually making a conscious decision to do it. it is usually only involuntary if I am tried.
Hello! Will we see an explanation of other episodes? :)
The greatest show, I’m so happy each week when it’s on again.
The cast is perfect, in todays Bs scripts this kills!
As a father, husband, son, this hits home everytime
Motivational Interviewing, cognitive restructuring, Socratic dialogue, Behavioral activation, Exposure,
Rubber band snap or switch on the wrist. Practicing for an interaction. Counting and breathing. Mantra. Affirmations?
This show looks really interesting. I hope you do more episodes.
I have unfortunately had some therapists and psychiatrists lose their objectivity over time and act like we're friends hanging out 😕 Luckily found some good ones now 🙂
Can you review You season 4 part 2? It’s got some AMAZING mental health disorders to cover and was AMAZING
The way the show REWARDED HIM for bad therapy had me almost dropping the show after just the first episode. I don't like bad therapy representation, but I usually ignore it since it tends to be just a few scenes in a show, but a show abou therapy with bad therapy? I watched two episodes and I liked better the second one (definitely a show about imperfect people trying to do their best when they can't), but I don't want his bad therapy to be rewarded, I don't want those boundaries broken... so I don't think this show is for me. Feeling very validated after this video, ahahaha.
Socratic questioning, disputing questions, rational responses, exposure, tracking mood, activity.
I've been hoping you'd react to this show!
identifying and challenging negative self-talk - useful for anxiety, depression, trauma
trauma narratives for TF-CBT, but it's similar to journaling - helpful for anxiety, depression, and trauma
Mindfulness/meditation/grounding exercises - helpful for anxiety
pleasant activity scheduling - great for depression
setting up a 'worry time' to use constructive worry and not let anxiety creep into every moment - anxiety and depression
I have Essential Tremors. It's not Parkinson's, but there are definitely times where I avoid drinking because I don't want to deal with the embarrassment of not being able to keep the liquid in the glass. I never drink hot drinks for that reason, unless it's in a cafe at a table with someone I trust.
gognitive rehearsal
cognitive restructuring
systematic desensitisation
flooding
exposure and response prevention
relaxation training (bonus)
CBT Techniques (written at timestamp 1:12 and not looking up the answers)
1. Freudian psychoanalysis
2. Moreno psychodrama
3. Sandtray therapy
4. Rogers (mutual positive regard)
5. Literary therapy
6. Art therapy
7. Hypnotherapy
Please do My Mad Fat Diary if you haven't seen it!!
I just did a CBT IOP so I should be able to name 5.... 0_0; 54321, Act oposite..journaling?... I think I just failed my IOP
Now that Im done I got a new therapist that is a transgender specialist. Im very happy, hope it goes well.
MORE PLEASEEEE
Now I 'm wondering what your reaction to Being Erica could be 🤔
Distraction, checking the evidence, step back before reacting realise that some of your thoughts are intrusive but look at them and let them go don't try not to think that thought it'll make it worse, grounding, square breathing. Depression, Bipolar, BPD, Schizophrenia complex PTSD
Can you react to the therapy scenes in Ted lasso?
He has 😊
okay, summoning all of 1 psych course I took over 30 years ago...I don't think we went over techniques so these are probably wrong but:
Mirroring - repeating back to the patient what they've said
The Silent Start - I ripped that off from a Good Will Hunting review
Well, I tried
I had to add this th-cam.com/video/WrjwaqZfjIY/w-d-xo.html
he would irritate me now, harrison ford is another matter🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I love this show but oh my god the things he does are SO bad. And it gets so much worse the farther you go. Definitely you should review more
It's a funny show :)
The problem for him he’s grieving for his dead wife😊
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Next try reacting to Gypsy” you think he’s messing with people at least he sucks at it….he’s a sledgehammer she’s a scalpel…
Getting told that I don't have anxiety, because I can't identify any physical symptoms, by a therapist is always helpful. 🙃
Buddhist therapy is much more inclined to reveal the self of the therapist.
I would have loved to hear your opinion but I cannot watch your eyes as I find being able to see your ring right reflect right where your pupils are extremely distracting.