How to Scrap an Air Conditioner AC Evaporator A Coil the best way and Make the MOST MONEY scrapping
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- How to Scrap an Air Conditioner AC Evaporator A Coil the best way and Make the MOST MONEY scrapping. This isn’t how to do it safely or even a how to do it properly video, this is just me explaining to you exactly you how I do it.
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Brandon, I’m 65 years old and I have been processing ACRs before you were born. You did a great job making this video. The only thing I would suggest doing differently is cutting on the outside of the steel plate instead of on the inside. I use a grinder with a 7” cut off wheel. It’s important to make a clean cut tight against the steel. If the grinder veers away slightly from the steel you simply run the cut off wheel over it to grind off any little bits of copper that may be remaining. After doing it a few times you’ll get quite good at it. Yes, grinding does reduce the weight of your copper, but only by a very slight margin. However, I always sweep up the floor and throw all of the copper dust back into my number two copper. I’m guessing it comes out about the same. Now take your ACR and hit the steel with a hammer. In most cases it will fly off with just one hit. Occasionally it will require a few extra hits, but if you’ve made a clean, cut. It almost always come off with one hit. This saves a huge amount of time. You don’t have to go back and worry about pulling off all of the little U-shaped loops of copper from the steel. I saw you struggling with that in your video. Give it a try!
Wow, that’s a good idea! Thank you!!! I always appreciate and gladly accept advice from more experienced wiser people than me. There’s usually always something to learn. And I’m glad to hear that you liked the video and thought it was good. I will definitely give your way a try, thanks again!
Great display mate, appreciated your clear explanations and advice! Cheers PJ
Happy to hear you liked it. Thanks for letting me know and commenting! - 🍻Brandon
Digging the song! Thanks for posting the beat!!!
Yeah, it’s a good tune! I don’t know him, but you should check out his channel. There’s some good stuff in there, he’s definitely underrated in my opinion.
Appreciate the video, very helpful.
Awesome, that’s great to hear. Your welcome and thanks commenting to let me know!!!!
Nice done buddy👍. Greetings from Greece😉
Thank you 🤘 Greetings from the States
I learned quite a bit from this video. It was fun watching you take the copper of the end of the steel with a screwdriver and a hammer.
The music was like rap music mixed with bluegrass.
That’s great to hear, glad to hear it helped and that you enjoyed it!
And your pretty much right on with the music. It’s from a song by Charlie Farley. It’s considered to be “ Country rap”
Thanks for the education!
You’re welcome, happy to help!
This is the first time I watch one of your TH-cam things and it was very helpful
That’s awesome! Great to hear, thanks for watching and commenting!!!
Thanx- I put the Core ( radiator) in a vice then use a hacksaw. It's quick, neater than a Sawzall and quiet. Won't wake anyone up in the morning. A good scrapper separates, cleans sort when Scrapyards are closed. There used to be a time there would be " Cleanup Day" for metal and I would drive to different neighborhoods and towns for metal. Some Scrapyards won't consider copper " #1"- for the fact there is corrosion / freon oil inside. It has to be bare inside. The price difference is only 10 cents anyway. Say one has 10 1/2 #s of #1 and 10 1/2#s of #2. We don't get paid for the halves. I'd rather get 21 pounds by combining it together.
Yeah, I think a bench vice is definitely the best option. Never try to hacksaw though. I do all my work in my pole barn on a big property, so I don’t really have any issues with the sound and don’t need to be quiet, but sometimes the sawzall will run run off on you towards the center causing you to lose some material at the edge. So I’ll have to give it a try with the hacksaw sometime.
The cleanup day sounds great. I rarely see anything worthwhile grabbing sitting outside any longer, but to have a day that you know, everybody would have it out would be pretty amazing
As far as the #1 & #2 copper goes… The scrap yards around me (at least the few I use) all accept it as #1 as long as there is no patina, corrosion, or contaminants, even if it’s had Freon in it or is darker in color they still give me #1. But I know there Will classify it as #2 unless it’s bright perfect and looking brand new.
So I do the opposite and separate everything. For example, if there was a 6” piece of #1 soldered to a copper connector, I would cut it off right above the solder and put the connector with a solder on it in my number two bucket and the remaining 5 inches or so in my number one bucket of clean copper.
But to each their own. We’re all a community of similar people doing a similar thing, just slightly different ways. Good luck with it and happy scrapping!
@@BrandonStunts Yes - I agree and do all that. 20 years ago Scrapyards took: vac cleaners, tv sets AND Tread Mills( alot of wood rubber). Then they started getting strict. But yet one can bring in a BUS ( glass and leather). Regarding #2 COP- I've cleaned the outside with Comet on a wet rag! There goes my time. On the window ACs I cut the elbow copper off then flip it over on rags standing up for a day or 2. This prevents a mess from the demo area to ( in my case a car trunk or van and eventually the Scrapyard.) I respect all Laws about Enviroment. Thanx for writing!
Cut on the noodle side then pull the steel. If lip/flange is in the way hammer it back. Lot easier than pulling noodles by hand.
Thanks, that’s a good idea! I think I tried that in the past, but from what I remember it was easier to cut this way because the blade stays in place and just runs through it easier. From what I remember the blade kept bouncing / pushing out place doing it that way, but I’ll have to give it another try. Thanks for the tip!!!
I like the charly farley tune playing in the background
Yeah man! So do I. It’s real a chill beat , a good song, and goes really well with the video.
I don’t actually know Charlie Farley, but i think his genre for the most part isn’t as well known as others and doesn’t get a lot of publicity. I think him and a lot of others in it are underrated. So I was hoping this video would help get it out there because he’s got some pretty good stuff.
Yessir!!!!! He is one of my favorites...i listen to country rap all the time when im tearing shit apart in the garage...just to let u know that im a scraper too...lookin forward to ur next video.
Thanks man, that’s awesome! Me too, I do the same thing! Happy to hear you like the videos. I have a couple more scrap video ideas, but I’m going to be putting out a lot of other similar style videos about garage / shop stuff like set ups, storage, tools & equipment..ect. As well as motorcycle / dirtbike / 4 wheeler stuff, and some sandblasting and powder coating in the future as well.
I’m hoping it’s not too broad of a spectrum, but either way there’s definitely gonna be some good stuff coming in the future for that stuff
Good
Glad you liked it!!! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment
Love it is there any freon in that
Thanks! No, the Freon was already properly evacuated
But how do you get the copper tubing out? Is what I'm trying to figure out
Most people don’t think it’s worth it. You normally get paid pretty decent for the aluminum copper, compared to the time that it would take to separate them. Although I haven’t seen anyone successfully do that efficiently.
Does your yard downgrade the copper if it had the oil in/on it? Wondering if it's worth the time cutting it up
No, but i have heard of some doing that. The scrap yards I go to all consider it #1 clean copper even with oil, most discoloration, and maybe even with a little bit of real light patina, but anything more than that as well as solder, corrosion, or any other kind of build up would make it #2 copper.
Yes I’m New York you get less way less
Very nice series of videos, my young friend!
One question..., what does your scrap yard say about chromed brass?
Besides the protective gear that you are wearing, please consider always wearing hearing protection. This is sound advice from a hard of hearing, 66yo guy who was never given this advice 55 years ago when I started working around loud machines.
The only up side to having defective hearing now, is that I have a valid excuse for "not hearing " my wife! Just kidding.
Stay safe, stay well, and keep posting!
Thank you very much Water, I appreciate that!!! As far as chromed brass goes, they’re usually treated the same as unchromed brass, but it’s generally almost always classified as yellow brass.
I also appreciate the advice, i’m not always the best on safety, but I just turned 39 last weekend and i am finally starting to realize how important and valuable advice is from those who are wiser and have more life experience. Although it would be a good excuse when my wife asks why I didn’t do something she asked, but i’d rather just have good hearing lol
Thanks again! I hope you also stay safe and well my friend. I have a lot of footage recorded, I’m just trying to find the to time between work and family to go through it all and edit it. Thats by far the most time consuming part, but there’s definitely more videos coming!
@@BrandonStunts Great to hear back from you!
Did you ever cast that eagle that you were teasing us with?
Also, what part of the country are you in?
I'm near Tampa, FL.
I've tried to video my projects, but quickly realized that I wasn't able to do that well enough to post. Keep after it!
@@walter2990 I think the eagle may have been from someone else's videos, but I have bought most of the materials and parts to build a metal foundry so I can try melting down some of my scrap into ingots and might possibly do some casting in the future.
I'm in Eastern PA, close to an hour and a half north of Philadelphia. Back around 07 or 08 my wife and I stayed near John's Pass in treasure island (outside of St. Petersburg) for one of our wedding anniversaries. We really enjoyed that area.
As far as the videos go... They're a challenge to say the least, but I plan on keeping after em. Thanks again and it's good talking to you!
How many cuts do you get with the battery powered sawzall?
From my experience using the better XR 18v dewalt batteries (25% more runtime than the standard 18v). I get about 10 minutes + or - of consistent run time depending on what I’m cutting. So one like this with 2 coils connected would require 4 cuts (1 cut for each side of each coil). Depending on the coil size and how easy it cuts through, i’d say should only take a minute or two with a good blade. So you should be able to get about 6-8 cuts give or take per battery.
The best option in my opinion (which i have and use) would be a 15 amp Milwaukee corded reciprocating saw / saw zaw, but cordless is a bit more convenient.
Very informative-thanks
I put one side of your cutters in a vice easier to handle
Good idea, thanks for the tip!
I turn in so many of the brass valves that the scrapyard pays me full price even with the steel valves on due to bringing in 400lb+ of clean ACR's
Wow, that’s nice. When you’re bringing in bulk scrap some places will give you special pricing (if they don’t it’s always with asking if they can do more for bulk).
I’m sure when you’re bringing bulk amounts a lot some places will try to hook you up or get the special treatment.
Asked them yesterday why they pay me the same on my brass being dirty,they said because I am polite and sort my stuff out before I get there is why.
So being polite to the employees is key,even in these trying times
The TXVs? (Expansion Valves)
Can you separate the cooper from the aluminum?
I haven’t found an easy efficient way to separate it. I think its better to turn in the coils as clean copper aluminum radiators like in the video. thats just based off the extra time and energy it would take compared to the increase in scrap value.
I have heard of people using razor knives to strip ir or a large flat blade screwdriver and prying the aluminum off the copper tube. There are also 2 machines out there for these copper aluminum coils that work the same as copper cable granulators and copper cable wire stripping machines.
@@BrandonStunts Thank you.
The the granulator crushes the material depending on whether it's a coil granulator or wire granulator, and then somehow vibrates and separates the metals as well as the contaminants. And the stripper Machine does exactly what it says. The wire stripper machine strips the sheathing off the wire, and the coil stripping machine stripped the copper tubes from the aluminum fins. That's pretty expensive though and more for scrap businesses
@@matthewadams9900 your welcome, happy to help!
I been scraping a bunch of these. Copper up the wazoo. How much you get per coil in your area? Yeah that piece of brass can make a dollar to.
Nice!!! Whenever I scrap anything I try to maximizer scrap value by getting pretty much everything other than the steel.
As far as money per coil, I don’t really know because everything i scrap goes into 5 gallon buckets or 50 gallon drums. I wait till I have enough for them to pay me top dollar for bulk / dealer pricing. So I’m not sure what an individual coil would get me here, but about 4-5 months ago I scrapped all the brass and copper I’ve been stashing and can give you prices for that below.
I got really good prices because i saved it up for many many years and had about 800-1000++ lbs of each. I had to call a lot of places to find a yard that would give me a decent amount extra for bulk scrap. They’ll give me special pricing if I have around 300-500+ lbs depending on the material. The lower priced material like aluminum, motors, or batteries need more weight to qualify. But higher priced material like brass and copper don’t need quite as much.
Red brass - 1.92
Yellow brass - 1.70
#1 copper - 2.70
#2 copper - 2.52
I can’t remember what their price for coils were.
How much money do you think you get on average per coil once broken down?
@@BrandonStunts here cleans coils are $1.00 a pound. I tried weighing one on a bathroom scale that I think don't work right. But they weigh around 10 to 15 pounds I say. Thing is you got to have someone with a busenises liscience to go with you the first time so I can get in the computer. It's just rules because of theives. I'll get that done. So I would say 10 to 15$ depending on size. I had over a dozzon big units gave to me. Why that person didn't scrap them I do not know. So far I made over $200 off of them. I been taking everything else other than the coils off them till I get in the computer for the coils.
@@BrandonStunts The prices are a little better where you at I see. It's going up here though.
How much will you get for 1 coil broken down like that
I’ve never scrapped just one, so i don’t know what the average weights would be, but if I had to guess based off of average weights and prices right now it could be around $35 + or -
That’s based on the average A coil probably weighs around 30 poundoff the top of my head I’d say there’s probably around 20-25 lbs in copper/alum coils ($25-30). Probably about 3-5 lbs of plastic, steel, screws (thrown out), and stuff and then 3-5 lbs of #1 / #2 copper and brass ($8-12), depending on the coil size.
Keep in mind prices right now are really high, like crazy high. Close to double what they were a couple years ago.
@@BrandonStunts appreciate the insight. I’m an hvac installer and guys were talking about scrapping the old coils, and they got me thinking. I might look into it and see how it is. See if the pay is worth it. Great video too btw.
No problem! It’s definitely worth it, especially if you work in the industry and can get them for free as part of your job.
How much cash they give for one A coil?
I’ve never scrapped just one, but if I had to guess, I’d say around $35 + or -, but keep in mind prices are really high right now, like crazy high. Close to double what they were a couple years ago.
Here’s a break down on how I came up with that number. I’m guessing an average A coil weighs around 30 pounds. So off the top of my head I’d say there’s probably around 20-25 lbs in copper/alum coils ($25-30) about 3-5 lbs of #1 copper, #2 copper, and brass ($8-12), and then about 3-5 lbs of plastic & steel (trash, unless you scrap the steal too for around 25-50 cents).
It's all #2 copper it has chemicals running thru it, freon.❤
Technically that may be true, but I did get paid #1 price for that pile.
The scrapyard I use pays #1 as long as there’s no contaminants on them, such as solder, paint, and obviously other metals or plastics (even if they have had Freon in them). Most of them I use will even pay #1 if it’s a little darker in color or slightly patinaed
@@BrandonStunts Correct, I'm just saying your video is misleading/misinformation telling people it's #1 copper, when in reality it's really #2 copper. 😂
5:32 that entire piece is #2 copper😂 Now if that was off of a waterline, you would be Correct. The entire piece is contaminated #2 copper plain and simple. Just correcting misleading info here. 90% of scraps will actually check and ask you what it came from. that's why you have to sign with your name when you scrap to get paid because you can get fined for scrapping certain things wrong, especially things with oil in them like motors and pipes with chemicals. But most scrap yard will check so that doesn't happen because they can get fined as well. And there is only a minimal difference of .10 cent per pound from #1 copper to #2 copper price so yeah.... scrap correctly❤
So much work for less than five dollars.how much less to just drop off the things whole
Most scrap yards pay whatever the lowest metal is that’s on it. In this case, it would be steel. So the ones around me only pay out $110 per gross ton (2240 lbs). Which breaks down to little less than five cents per pound. Probably only about 15 to 20 pounds. So probably a dollar or less. Some might give a little more have a separate price for coils, but not all.