@@arthurpressnall8744 Exactly. So if he left his wife and got sole custody, he'd have to either change jobs or just hire a nanny to raise the kid for him anyway! People pile on the mother so much in sad situations like this, with no regard whatsoever that she's just a human and not an automaton. :(
"I could never harm a child." Gave him to strangers who were beyond sketchy and ended up being horrible criminals who traumatized him worse than what that mom could ever imagine, she could have just taken him to therapy...
That’s what you got. The dude strong armed her into adopting a child with a lot of issues and then left his wife to deal with it while he traveled around the world whilst being hero of the year
@@SwaggerChiick1 never said she was the victim, but the husband sure as hell isn’t innocent. It was irresponsible of him to leave his, already overwhelmed, wife alone with his their child who had extreme behavioral and emotional issues for SIX WEEKS!
@@PrincessZaire100he offered to get her help there are countless fully qualified people out there that are good at helping mentally ill children adjust but she refused this is on her the solution was there and could be taken anytime during those 6 weeks and have help that same day but she refused this is on her
Not every person deserves to be a mother. Fact she gave her child away to such sketchy people would be worthy of lifetime incarceration. I work with kids with mental disabilities and no matter how difficult the kid acts, there’s always a better way.
The kid ends up being fine: he was so much of a handful that the molester actually abandoned him at the airport. They found him stowed away aboard a flight to Atlanta which the kid misunderstood as being in Georgia the country. He was unconscious by the time that Bensen found him, but he ended up being alright.
This is so sickening... giving up a kid to child molesters is one thing, but giving a diabetic severely autistic kid to child molesters is a whole nother level of evil!
@@francostevo9939 She shouldn't have given him up at all: she even lied to make sure the father didn't know about what she'd done. If she couldn't deal with it, she should've said something or hired someone. Instead, she wussed out and took the easy way out of the whole thing with no regard for the child. Not that the orphanage was any better...
@@codenamejinza If you saw the whole episode, the woman actually does explain all the ways she tried to get help, and was shut down every time. Humans can only take so much. :(
A wise hedgehog once said: "Kids, there's nothing more cool than being hugged by someone you like, but if someone tries to touch you in a place or in a way that makes you uncomfortable, that's no good! It's your body. No one has the right to touch you if you don't want them to so what do you do? First say NO! Then you get out of it. Most important you got to tell someone you trust like your parents, your teacher, a police officer."
Its frustrating to know that this mother didnt even get charged for what she did. Gave her child to pornographers and got off with a slap on the wrist.
@@TashaSewingTutorials well what she did was still messed up. At the very least they got her for filing a false police report. Letting everyone think the boy was kidnapped when she knew all along what she did with him.
@@arethaforde1976 Me too. I got so PO’ed after watching this. The acting and the show are good, but the fact that this is happening to innocent children in both my country and around the world upsets me. I know they were just acting, but I really wanted to give those kids a hug because no kid deserves this.
My dad was an abusive narcissist who used his anger and stress as a weapon. He hit us infrequently, but the verbal, financial, and psychological abuse was some of the worst you can imagine. Outside of the family? No one knew, not even his close friends or my godparents. He never showed anything that indicated he was like that.
Tbh i feel like the lady might have more to her story. Im imagining something like she was in the streets or grew up in the streets and got this job and it was like a gift from God and all blah blah blah and maybe that's why she's naive?- ik my reason might not make sense but ahe probably believed it or smth
They should charge both parents. You don't adopt a kid and hand them over to some shady person like a broken toy. You don't adopt a kid and after discovering severe mental and physical issues, abandon the kid and your wife. I don't want to have kids because I know I'm not selfless enough to give them the care they need. Not everyone deserves to be parents.
@@MrRepoman197no it’s not. He KNEW that he had those problems, and he left her to deal with that alone. He’s having violent outbursts and other issues that she’s not equipped to deal with and he knew that. He should’ve stayed home until Nikki was more adjusted and he should’ve arranged to get him some actual help
1:50 thats.... child abandonment. And they're saying they can't charge her for breaking any laws? Wtf? You can he arrested for not picking up your kid from the hospital or from school etc but she's allowed to just give him to a stranger without the dad's consent and not be charged with a crime????
Scary as it is the dad doesn't much factor into most family laws depending where in the world you are a mother can move cities hell countries while having joint custody with the father and the dad just has to deal but if he can't change addresses without permission of the court and if he needs to move for work usually it incurs an increase in child support payments and forgoing of custody rights
Happens everyday. There are Facebook groups for “rehoming” . The American adoption system was literally designed by a woman who sold 5000 babies on the black market and was a serial killer. She died of cancer days before her trial. Sometimes cancer gets it right!!!
Well, that's what I'm saying. Why is dumping your child to some random people who don't have any type of background checks or requirements not a prosecutable crime but puttingthem in foster care voluntarily (I mean as they get older not infants) @AnimatedBlast
It's so weird as someone who is not from the US how there are laws that are literally enabling things like this. Like how can you one day decide to give away your child to strangers and it's legal in some states? Are the people in charge apart of a ring exploiting children because who in their right mind thinks this will benefit the kids.
Well the long and short is that the intention is that you are dropping your kids off at a police station or a firehouse. The idea is that it is better for parents who realize they are unfit to give up custody. Things like this gray market adoption bullshit that happened aren't what's meant to happen And there are laws to prevent it. But unfortunately every system has it's flaws every system has its holes and sometimes it fails that people it's meant to protect in the case of this episode at least three times
@@johnleriger8730but we all know this happens in real life as well. In a country where they spend billions on military and police and God knows what else, why are children not protected? Sooo many children have been failed by this system, it’s sick
@@johnleriger8730 The shows have always taken directly from real life. Have you not heard of the Stauffers and their regifting of their own adopted Chinese child. He wasn't getting the same views a couple of years in - so he had to go - que crying video over how hard they had it how difficult he was how they weren't told all the details by the Chinese orphanage - and child disappears. Perfectly legal, apparently, just like that lawyer said. Filthy and repulsive and utterly immoral but certainly legal.
not from the US, but the feel that I get from the country is that there were a bunch of small nations united to form a great nation, that's why they are so parochial regarding the law state by state. They're not just autonomous from each other, they view it as independents and sovereigns regarding one state or another. That was even the base for racism in the deep south, the (in) famous Jim Crow laws. Google the Mississippi Sovereign Commission. Any other place this would be treated in the federal level, especially considering the kid crossed state lines. I know in my country the Feds would be on, because the crime is across state lines and, by our constitution, this is a crime of uniformed repression
I have high functioning Aspergers, my mom told me that they told her that she was offered to institutionalize me. She told them hell no, this was early 80’s. Kids were banging their heads against a wall wearing helmets. My mom spent over a decade working with me and bringing me to several types of therapies to help improve my work. This is inexcusable, there’s always an way.
A wise hedgehog once said: "Kids, there's nothing more cool than being hugged by someone you like, but if someone tries to touch you in a place or in a way that makes you uncomfortable, that's no good! It's your body. No one has the right to touch you if you don't want them to so what do you do? First say NO! Then you get out of it. Most important you got to tell someone you trust like your parents, your teacher, a police officer."
I’m sorry but she deserves to be in jail, divorced and nowhere near any child after this. She should have gotten help, not drop the child off like he was a bag of trash. She said she would never harm a child but she did the second she gave him away. The laws of cases like this need to be rewritten if nothing could be done against the women. Something should have been done. Thanks for uploading.
Child locks first came into use in 1949 and were required on every model and variant on all doors by 1985 there is no fucking way she had a car without them
@@michaelkeha Really? I guess that was only a thing in the U.S. because when I was a kid (around 1980 maybe?), I was in the car with my family but I failed to slam shut the car door properly and fully lock the door. It was an old car and you had to use a bit of force (not like modern cars) to get the door to fully close. It had one of those knobs you push down to lock the door after that. Anyway I had failed to fully close the door next to me but nobody noticed except for me. I didn't want to have to tell my father who was driving because I was probably afraid he'd blow up at me for making him pull over so I said nothing. Then at some point my father turned a corner and this caused the door to partially open and fortunately, my mother had the quick reflexes to grab me and the door so I wouldn't fall out onto the road. I don't have much recall of the event, only what I described. I don't think the danger of the situation really registered with me. I was worried that the door wasn't shut, but more worried about my father's reaction to having to stop.
@@michaelkeha No it was working. But it was an old, old car, and this was back in the early 80s at the latest. It was made in an era when cars were made of heavy steel - like tanks they were compared to later cars - and the door was heavy for a child to pull shut. It required some force to pull and latch into place (it wasn't that the door wasn't locked but that it wasn't properly latched closed). However, I had ridden in other peoples' newer cars and at that time, central automatic locking wasn't a thing. They all still operated by the same principle of the manual door lock, usually a knob set in the door next to the window that you pushed down.
In Texas, they just a Instated a new law called “Athena Alert” to broadcast on an regional alert for missing children, whether or not they have confirmation of a kidnapping. I think everyone needs to does this. Having to have confirmation that they were kidnapped to put out an alert for a missing kid kinda seems counterproductive
@@zenya9620Amber alert is for confirmed abductions. Athena alert, from the sound of it, is for a missing child. Kids could go missing because they ran away, and if they did that, there’s likely a reason behind it as well. Regardless, a more generalized alert for this situation does sound like it would be useful and effective
I've seen plenty of desperate parents in need of help badly, but usually they sought out help from any support they have. If they didn't have anyone to turn to for support, then to hospitals, social workers, or other legal channels. Certainly not to some rando on a website which is an obvious red flag of handing a child into a questionable situation.
More so when the father is willing to pay for her to hire all the help she needs while he's away she literally had every out to this situation and she chose the worst possible one
The problem with the death penalty is that there a plenty of people who were found innocent after they were executed. Are you willing to risk that. Or would you rather have molesters alive and able to suffer instead of just being killed and it being over with.
@@talkytabby2878that’s why they said Proven child molesters but unfortunately there’s so many gray areas in this world and we don’t always know for sure. If we could know for sure absolutely I agree with the death penalty but if it’s too much a risk for an innocent life to be charged then no I disagree. Personally I think child molesters just shouldn’t be able to get out of prison period no parole just life in prison.
@@stephaniemorrissey5114 These innocent people were determined innocent after being “proven” guilty in court, so… See “The Sun Does Shine” by Anthony Ray Hinton.
@@stephaniemorrissey5114the unfortunate thing is that certain investigators could be satisfied with very little as "proof" as long as it allows them to execute the person Human laws and justice systems aren't perfect and unfortunately some people use them to get rid of people they don't like, even if they're completely innocent
Technically any child who has gone missing will have an Amber Alert. It was actually made because the girl it’s named after wasn’t investigated cause she technically left her own home. She was found murdered (I think kidnapped as well idk)
That’s unfortunately not true there needs to be enough proof they were taken and meet a certain criteria of information about who it was, where, when, time and transportation before they can release an Amber alert
Amber Hagerman was kidnapped while riding her bike while she was 9 years old. Police realized that if they had alerted everyone around them to her kidnapping, they would have found her before she was murdered. So, the family lobbied to create the Amber Alert System which has saved hundreds of children since.
Adopted parents need to be prepared for children to have problems, these kids have trauma, alcohol exposure, drug exposure, etc. If you arent ready for it, dont do it. My adopted son has FASD he was adopted when was 3, you dont give up your kids.
Well, I just gave up on everybody here. Starting from the Mayor, to the orphanage, the adoptive mother, and these...subhuman species...(only ones exempt were the ones that actually fought for Nicky to be found).
@@dafg1119 yes in a later episode. Benson and the SVU were investigating a pedophile ring case that expanded to Chicago, which ended up having Hank Voight, Jay Halstead and Erin flying to New York to help out Benson. Come to find out the ring leader of the ring worked as a social worker for CPS.
And the fucked up thing about this, it happens irl too. Any gender, female or male, they do this for their disgusting desires. Its so.... God knows why they're not given a death penalty.
@@average-art3222 simple people and the law support monsters like this and demand everyone else pays for their food, healthcare, entertainment, and shelter instead of just executing them.
I can’t tell which is more impressive - that a couple of criminals would use Yankee Stadium as a fake address, or that somebody else would have it memorized. I mean if it’s that memorable, why would somebody be stupid enough to use it.
east river, central park are all used fake addresses. its actually smart since if it works than that means the person accepting it didn't do any background checking and hence are the perfect victims of scams
It's a long-running gag in all the law&order franchises that criminals use fake addresses that would be obvious to old hands, like yankee stadium or the middle of the hudson river. Cops are pros, these criminals are amateurs. The cops recognize the fake addresses because they've seen it all before but the criminals (and the other civilians interacting with them) have never seen fake addresses being used so it's all new to them.
I mean he was shown as caring about the child once he was gone. However he abandoned his wife and newly adopted child whilst going off for humanitarian work. So I wouldn't exactly say he's a good parent, he just didn't commit a crime. However, there are lots of great dads out there.
@@KateLate____he literally was willing to pay for assistance. What are we talking about here. I suffered post partum and my fiancée hired a nanny because he had to work since you need money to survive and all. The wife LIED that she could handle it and from my pov as a analyst more than likely she gave that poor child away to hurt the one she blamed for her incompetence (her husband) and that makes this so much worse 😣
Why not give your child to DCFS? If you can't raise your child yourself, At least they will make an effort to send the child to the most loving foster home or permanent adoptive parents❤
@BRUNETTECANARY A lot of the time DCFS won't take back a child its a very rare occurrence, so the adoptive parents will seek out other people to hand over a troubled child without the hassle of a background check or excessive paperwork.
@@MsWiccanpriestess That's a rare thing for sure🤔 So DCFS can come to your home and forcibly take your child from you if they decide you are an unfit parent and even bring the cops if they have to, but they won't take a child that you yourself bring to them? Sounds hypocritical of them🤨
@@murdahmammiez it is terrible yes. But what can anyone do to prevent someone's suffering? Take my case for example, all of my life, I've been bullied in school and by my own mother, I don't have the intelligence to live on my own and support myself financially, I am 34 years old, a single mother to my only child a daughter and I'm still living with my mother. My mother threatened to kick me out if I put my daughter up for adoption, which is what I was going to do. I have no job, nor do I have the intelligence to learn anymore, my self esteem is lower than zero and I live with false hope that my daughter's father will come back someday. I say someday because he hasn't responded to me ever since I told him I was pregnant with his child, and my daughter is 2 and a half years old now. My IQ is that of a 13 year old, and the only incone I have is food stamps and health insurance from the government, no child support. And nobody helps me because I have come to hate everyone around me. Do you really think that I am a better choice for my daughter than the possibility of an abusive foster home?🤨
I know this is just a television show, but I just could not watch the whole thing. It was just too sick. PLEASE someone tell me that they caught these monsters.
they did the wife turned on the husband when she saw he was faking his paralysis i don't remember what happened to the girls but the boy was found passed out in a bathroom and got medical help and the dad promised to be around more and the baby was eventually adopted by Olivia
What she did is still fully legal in the US, except for leaving the husband out of it. Adopted kids are regularly "rehomed" in Facebook groups. There is no one tracking those transactions, and it's not even against the terms of service. Rehoming pets is, but not children. People even hold shows where kids walk a runway in front of prospective "parents" who are considering adopting them. This is one of MANY reasons that so many people who've been adopted are against most adoption when they grow up. It's not impossible to take a child who needs a home in and love them, but the system we have for that currently is massively corrupt and not designed for the good of children. It's designed for people who want to buy a child, and even the ones you might consider good parents are often not coming from a healthy and respectful place. Hell, even when they are coming from the right place, the law itself around adoption usually automatically erases the child's former name and cultural identity. Adopted kids don't even have the legal right to their original birth certificates in the US. They're issued new birth certificates when they're adopted, so they can't even have their original last name or the names of their birth parents.
The situation was a total mess from the beginning. I remember this episode, but not all the details. The orphanage bear the responsibility for creating this mess in the first place by not informing the couple about all of Nikki's problems. They definitely deserved to know about that. The mother calling out on her husband on where was he when she needed him - I have to agree with her on that much. I don't know how long they had Nikki before he had to leave for those six weeks, but obviously not long enough for them to adjust to the problems that Nikki had besides his diabetes. I get the feeling those problems are the kind that needed the attention of both parents. And obviously, the mother couldn't handle it by herself. I know they found Nikki at the end. I also know that the father had begun to take steps to be in Nikki's life more. Either he began to make arrangements where he still worked at that company but no longer traveled like he had, or he was going to leave the company for a different job. As for the mother - I don't think she'll be in the picture any more. Was he planning for a divorce? Don't know about that, but at least a separation or something along those lines with arrangements for her not to be in Nikki's life any longer. I remember a segment from Oprah, where she's interviewing a couple who had adopted two children from an orphanage, and both of them had mental or emotional problems. The father sounded frustrated over the situation, but he wasn't thinking of returning the kids. He was angry with the orphanage for not telling him and his wife about their problems. I wonder if this episode isn't partially based on that interview.
Did it occur to that man (in real life) that maybe the orphanage didn't KNOW? The man in the SVU episode says that no one held him as an infant, but that doesn't automatically mean that the orphanage were negligent monsters! Same in the real life interview - orphanages are run by humans, and are usually understaffed... so the staff really can't give each unwanted baby everything they need to thrive. That's why human couples start with having ONE baby (or twins/triplets some of the time, but one pregnancy). They want to give that baby ALL the attention they have, and help them develop in the early years. Orphanages have hundreds of babies and far less staff. When do they have TIME to give them all the attention they need? They barely have time to give them food and nappy changes! :(
@@dmf1301I was going to leave it alone but whatever I'll say it: Why are you up and down this entire comment section justifying child abuse and neglect? There are so many of these comment chains where, every time someone remarks how terrible the situation and the people involved are, you come to the rescue with "ThEy'rE JUsT HuMAns, GUyS". Yes, they're humans. That doesn't mean anything. Humans can be wonderful, they can also be absolutely horrific and evil individuals who need to be locked away or even eliminated for the good of wider society. Your comments honestly prove my point on how willing society is to justify abuse if the people responsible hit all the right buttons.
He literally offered to get her help while he was gone and Nikki was doing well with the father who gave the child order and routines she refused to follow while he was away she had 6 weeks to freely hire a trained professional to help her but she didn't nah this is all on her
Reminds me also of the Myka Stauffer case a few years back -mommy vlogger who adopted a Chinese orphan with learning difficulties but then got tired of his behaviours and needs despite knowing before adopting he had them and then gave him away to another family like he was a pet - put a sob story video out when people noticed the child wasn't appearing in the videos anymore and the Internet was rightfully horrified - she never got any punishment though for literally giving away her adopted child through Facebook groups and the horrifying thing is these groups are still up and running.
Giving a kid back to a sketchy place shouldn’t be allowed. Giving a kid back to a legit organization should be allowed. As heartbreaking as it is, the kid would not thrive
@ChristianRaines4946 Sadly, it happens more than we think, just because we don't hear about it on TV or hear it on the radio doesn't mean it doesn't happen. And yet only 20-30 states don't have any sort of federal laws or protections against rehoming or reunification.
@@CharlesRaines4946 Utah is just one of many states that allow abused children to be reunified with their abusers. The governor, Mayor of Utah have been trying to get the laws of rehoming and reunification changed and make it illegal for children to go back to their abusive homes.
Here’s is just another example of how adoption is not always the best option! This episode should serve as a reason why all prospective adopting parents should be properly screened before they can be eligible to adopt!
This mother is disgusting. Jesus chirst...there's no telling how much damage has already been done. She deserves infinite jail time and/or a death sentence depending on the abuse or damage has been done to the child.
Okay what irritated me to no end is that they got the child back after this ordeal. Look what she did was disgusting and irresponsible. There's no question that the child wasn't safe with her, that being said the husband isn't blameless either. It was clear his wife was becoming overwhelmed. Taking care of disabled people in general, much less a child, is not for the emotionally weak or people who lack patience. It's not for everyone, and that's okay, doesn't give you license to just give your kid away to strangers there are many way better options. This whole episode was a rollercoaster.
How is it that to blame when he had their child on a routine that the mother refuses to do she did not want him it's a 3 days after he left for her to make up a story give it to the cops about how she lost her child and someone kidnapped him how she gave someone her child by searching the internet that takes time and dedication if he is working to find ways to take care of that child and he is also going to work and maintaining the household and told her that if you need extra help then he will get nannies and extra help for you including when as a woman as I am we get more help than men do so if she would have just went to a hospital went back to the agency went to a social worker went to somewhere to get help she would have gotten help instead she took the easiest and quickest explanation hoping that he was never going to be found and lied and said that there was no father so she could give that child up she didn't want him then she should have stated that in the beginning instead she brought him home because if she would have told the social services the social worker the agency that she adopted him from that she didn't want him and she don't feel like that was a good fix for him because apparently he doesn't act like that when the father is around only with the mother is around which means that either the mother is doing something to trigger him or she doesn't do anything to really help until it was literally the last seconds of when the father was really about to leave for her to try and quotations I should say to properly so called raise that child by herself and it was only 3 days he was even gone for the whole 6 weeks and when he found out that boy was missing he went and made a police report right away went straight there to see how he can help how to find out his first words when he found out it was his wife was why didn't you ask for help when I told you I could give you the help she said how by getting armed guards that is not a response that any real mother would say no matter how difficult their kid is in as a person who is a mom I would have loved to have that child with me but yeah I have the audacity to blame the father even partially when they are together that little boy is doing well he is fine he is carrying he is showing love when he goes That's when apparently he acts out so either he had a woman in his life that didn't take care of him correctly so he's not comfortable with females like that or she's doing something or he could sense something in her that says she is not it but we are not going to put that blame on that man who did nothing but love his son and come back home to find out that his wife has said that not only did he not have a father but also lied to the police saying that he was kidnapped Not only was he kidnapped but he also has medical health issues real medical health issues that could have killed him and she didn't even give them the medicine for him to even be well taken care of it shows more about her character then his her character leads up to her going on the internet searching up agencies that's not legit because she could have just went back to the agency that she got him from and gave them to people who wouldn't give her their name or have a real location to even see if they wanted to get back and let's be real like if she would have got away with it how was she really explain to her husband who would have came home with the next 6 weeks to know son like let's be real how was she going to be like oh he ran off he got kidnapped I went to the cops and we just can't find him safe status like it makes no sense in as a person who been in the system themselves and been hurt as a kid I refuse to have a person say that that man did anything wrong when he didn't as a woman I'm not going to let you put the blame on no man there he was loving he was caring he was everything a father should have been he was hard-working going to do his business even with his tiresome life and we could tell if this was a real life because let's be real working on us hours and then coming home with an autistic child who also has health problems could really make you tired and stressing that's for normal parenting but when you don't have no blood connection and you have to build that connection from scratch it's even harder how is it that this man could do it this man who goes to work all day just to come back home to be with his wife and his child could be able to connect the bond with his son and the person who's with him supposedly all day couldn't how is it that the woman who we supposed to have that motherly bond that connection of no harm in anyone which blows my mind when I hear how females who could even carry their kid could kill their own children how is it that we ladies could have this emotional connection with everyone else but when it comes down to a child who really needs that love they can't do it but everyone wants to say men don't have no emotions when in reality they have way more emotions than females do it's sad that men have to go through all this pressure in his pain and females don't and I mean when it comes down to show me emotions cuz then it's becomes gay supposedly that when you see a female being the way this mother was being that people want to go but she's only human or well she's not fully to blame it was also her husband's fault too because he should have helped her when he told her if you needed help we could get help she chose not to so she could do what she wanted to do which was get rid of that little boy because she's not with him she deserves to be locked with everybody who hurts a child she deserves to be greenlit
@@mahailiabrown3972 umm so? The dad's guilt or innocence is irrelevant. If a wife neglects or abuses her child while dad is at work or away, the kid runs away, is found by police, and then tells them what his mom did and they just let him go home because the dad wasn't involved how does that benefit the child? The person who neglected/abused the kid in the first place is still there and therefore that child is not safe. This situation is no different. That woman clearly cannot handle a child with severe special needs. So unless the father is going to quit his job and care for him full time there's no guarantee something like this wouldn't happen again. This all happened because mom couldn't handle it, and dad was in denial about how bad it was getting because he's not around as much. Literally nothing had changed and he was just sent back with them like nothing even happened...so how is this kid magically safe now?
Gee, if only she had an option to terminate the pregnancy after pre-natal testing showed the disability, so this child didn't have to suffer those awful things... Good thing politicians were on the case!!🙄
This is a similar situation in "I Spit on Your Grave 3". There's a young Girl who is being sexually abused by her step-dad. Her Mother chooses to turn a blind eye to it!
Wa! Wa! Wa! Cry me a River lady. Why wasn’t she arrest for child endangerment and since there was money exchange and she stupidly handed him to child predator she should be charged for child exploitation.
That’s why adoption is one of those things, you need to be prepared both emotionally and financially with who you get. You don’t know what kinds of issues they may have later in life both emotional and physical that may not be present when you adopt them. I remember the true story about the couple that adopted a 4 year old from the Ukrainian or Russia believe and sent her back. They said she tried to kill her baby brother who was also adopted from there.
I’m gonna say this. I know for a fact I don’t have the ability to take care of someone with autism. I wouldn’t give a kid away to strangers like this woman.
@@ganeevgill5286 Where are you thinking those unwanted kids are gonna go if their mothers are unable to access abortions? Foster care is gonna rise and we already have a shortage/abusive foster parents
@@deusexmachina9776 Maybe just maybe women AND men ought to use birth control. Very often women just dont have access to birth control and guys don't like the"feel" of using a condom...
@@seraphiccandy21 if women dont have acess to birth control how do guys have access to it then? that doesnt make sense. women are far more in control over getting pregnant
Yea kids are difficult but if she didn’t want her child so badly she should’ve just signed off custody to the child’s father not this.. this kind of person is clearly unstable..
That prosecutor or whatever she is, would drive me insane. She was trying to block any action to find the boy. Caring more about the mother who gave him away, or the bs red tape. Than the child possibly in danger. Despite the fact she should have known the father had rights.
I don't remember all the details but they eventually find Nikki along with some other children, including a baby who we later learn is Noah. The people holding them are arrested.
You can usually find summaries on the 'net - there's a couple of sites out there for the various L&O episodes, but the summary I found was on Huffpost. . . . . . They find Alexa first, who was getting additonal insulin, then most of the other children at a motel, but Alexa clams up. Eventually they get an alert of Roger at the Airport, but just miss him. But they did get a vid of Roger out of his wheelchair walking on his own, which they show to Alexa - she immediately turns on him, as he'd used his disability to get her to do everything for him. Roger is arrested at a Chinese restaurant, but he'd left Nicky at the airport. They find him in the bathroom of a plane headed for Atlanta, which Nicky thought was headed for Georgia the country (his original home). BTW - Roger is played by Mark Boone Jr, who you might recognise from Sons of Anarchy and Batman Begins.
Everyone’s talking about the mother (and rightly so) but Mrs ‘But-They-Seemed-So-Nice’ was just completely stupid! No background check, not even looking at the address and not stopping to wonder why him being in a wheelchair meant they couldn’t go through the regular channels. How can someone honestly be that naive?
Imagine whining about a kid opening the door in a moving car when there are such things as child-locks in existence. If the kid was that unstable, he should have been in the back seat.
soooo easy to point fingers on the mother. BuT they haven't experienced taking care of a special child. the father kept saying solutions BUT did he take care of the child even for one whole week? then he would have known first hand how hard it would have been
@@Arixanna13Oh, I know. And I don't care. I get that they never had kids of their own, and being left alone with him must've been a real tole on her mentally, but it's like Olivia said, "You call someone. You ask for help. You don't just discard a child."
@@leeammorris1268 • Children adopted from overseas can have mental health issues. It's been some time since I've seen a report but it evidently has to do with the conditions in the orphanages. Obviously, each country is different but it is a problem.
I think this was inspired by an event that happened. A vlogging family adopted a special needs little boy from Asia. They purposefully wanted a special needs kid. They thought it would be something light and simple to deal with. But he was nonverbal, temperamental and more. Viewers noticed odd things like his hands were taped (mind you he's nonverbal and hand motions were his way of communicating) then one day the boy wasn't in their vlogs anymore. Fans asked where he was, over and over until the mother admitted that they couldn't handle him and "rehomed him" with another family like he was a pet they could no longer keep (which technically was what he was to them, a new accessory for the channel). People were pissed because it was legal and there was no telling what kind of people actually took him (hopefully they were good and a better suit), so the internet did what the Internet does and just wrecked them for treating that child that way.
it's true in a lot of states parents "rehome" their adopted child like they're a dog they're tired of and it has little oversight the youtube family vlogger Myka Stauffer got a lot of hate for it a few years ago
The husband buggering off for 6 weeks immediately after adopting a special needs kid that his wife clearly didn't want, should not be allowed to have that back. Hell when my brother got his cat as a kitten he buggered off for a month and i told him he wasn't getting him back.
The worst part about this episode was how the "mother" wasn't charged with anything or arrested for what she did.
Not in the episode anyway
No, but I have a feeling that the dad would leave his wife for this. I think that would be worse than jail or charges.
To be fair the father wasn't even a father to the kid just a father on paper, as soon as they got the kid he left for 6 weeks
@@arthurpressnall8744 Exactly. So if he left his wife and got sole custody, he'd have to either change jobs or just hire a nanny to raise the kid for him anyway!
People pile on the mother so much in sad situations like this, with no regard whatsoever that she's just a human and not an automaton. :(
@@dmf1301 "she's just human", please be serious. A lot of mothers go through this, but they would never do what she did. she's evil
"I could never harm a child." Gave him to strangers who were beyond sketchy and ended up being horrible criminals who traumatized him worse than what that mom could ever imagine, she could have just taken him to therapy...
Technically she didn’t hurt him, just gave him to people who were able to convince her they would look after him.
She didn't give the kid to them. That overworked lady at the center did.
No money = minimum to no access to help
The opening the car door doing 70mph bit was more HER fault than the kids...child safety locks are standard
That’s what you got. The dude strong armed her into adopting a child with a lot of issues and then left his wife to deal with it while he traveled around the world whilst being hero of the year
@@PrincessZaire100 oh of course she's the victim 🙄😒
@@SwaggerChiick1 never said she was the victim, but the husband sure as hell isn’t innocent. It was irresponsible of him to leave his, already overwhelmed, wife alone with his their child who had extreme behavioral and emotional issues for SIX WEEKS!
@@PrincessZaire100Did you miss the part where he offered to hire care workers and the wife said no?
The wife refused help. That’s on her.
@@PrincessZaire100he offered to get her help there are countless fully qualified people out there that are good at helping mentally ill children adjust but she refused this is on her the solution was there and could be taken anytime during those 6 weeks and have help that same day but she refused this is on her
Not every person deserves to be a mother. Fact she gave her child away to such sketchy people would be worthy of lifetime incarceration. I work with kids with mental disabilities and no matter how difficult the kid acts, there’s always a better way.
@@veedocaponeit’s still a good thing to hear. Don’t be rude
@@veedocapone shut your room temp IQ up
@@veedocapone Problem is these events happen in really life.
she would totally be charged with child endangerment if this happened irl
@@veedocapone All of the cases in Law & Order are based off of real cases in the real world. So yes. It is real. Sit down and shut it.
The kid ends up being fine: he was so much of a handful that the molester actually abandoned him at the airport. They found him stowed away aboard a flight to Atlanta which the kid misunderstood as being in Georgia the country. He was unconscious by the time that Bensen found him, but he ended up being alright.
do you remember what happened to those two girls?
@@destinee6594 I don't
@@destinee6594 They find the girls in a hotel room and they're taken into foster care.
Thank you, there’s always someone in the comments who gives us the rundown of how these episodes end.
Guess theirs a huge advantage of being handful
This is so sickening... giving up a kid to child molesters is one thing, but giving a diabetic severely autistic kid to child molesters is a whole nother level of evil!
He has reactivate attachment disorder, not autism
But the mother didn’t know they were molesters.
@@francostevo9939 She shouldn't have given him up at all: she even lied to make sure the father didn't know about what she'd done. If she couldn't deal with it, she should've said something or hired someone. Instead, she wussed out and took the easy way out of the whole thing with no regard for the child. Not that the orphanage was any better...
@@codenamejinza good point.
@@codenamejinza If you saw the whole episode, the woman actually does explain all the ways she tried to get help, and was shut down every time.
Humans can only take so much. :(
A wise hedgehog once said:
"Kids, there's nothing more cool than being hugged by someone you like, but if someone tries to touch you in a place or in a way that makes you uncomfortable, that's no good! It's your body. No one has the right to touch you if you don't want them to so what do you do? First say NO! Then you get out of it. Most important you got to tell someone you trust like your parents, your teacher, a police officer."
A hedgehog?
Where do you get your other safety tips? Porcupines?
@@TheBatugan77
The quote above is from Sonic The Hedgehog in the Sonic Says segment in the 1990's cartoon called:
The Adventures Of Sonic The Hedgehog
I'm not even a Sonic fan, and I immediately got the reference.
Its frustrating to know that this mother didnt even get charged for what she did. Gave her child to pornographers and got off with a slap on the wrist.
she gave her child to an independent adoption broker. the broker is the one who gave the kid to pedophiles because she didn't run a background check.
She didn't give her child to them. She gave him to an agency. The agency gave him to them.
@@TashaSewingTutorials well what she did was still messed up. At the very least they got her for filing a false police report. Letting everyone think the boy was kidnapped when she knew all along what she did with him.
The fact that things like this really happen is wild
Indeed, I had to binge on a comedy show after binging on this.
@@arethaforde1976same. I can only watch so many episodes before I have to watch some real dumb or comedic stuff to remember there's good in the world
@@joshuahiltpold248a show literally based on real case files. So you don’t have a point
@@rosebud040686 huh? What are you talking about?
@@arethaforde1976 Me too. I got so PO’ed after watching this. The acting and the show are good, but the fact that this is happening to innocent children in both my country and around the world upsets me. I know they were just acting, but I really wanted to give those kids a hug because no kid deserves this.
I love how Fin has this almost supernatural ability to know every address in NYC.
Anybody from the Bronx would know 161st St by Jerome is Yankee Stadium; Courthouse buildings off Concourse - not that brilliant
When you’re on the streets all day in New York you always get to learn the place.
The time he said "that would put 'em in the middle of the Hudson River" I cracked up.
Old time Yankees fan here. Picked up on that immediately. 161st & River Ave. Knew that better than my school address.
@@LilStitchy1 I remember that, in one of his first apperances, he still had a ponytail. The most street savvy cop of SVU.
2:04 "ShE wAs VeRy nIcE"
😒 Lady. Plenty of evil people know how to pretend to be nice
My dad was an abusive narcissist who used his anger and stress as a weapon.
He hit us infrequently, but the verbal, financial, and psychological abuse was some of the worst you can imagine.
Outside of the family? No one knew, not even his close friends or my godparents. He never showed anything that indicated he was like that.
Can't blame her for being naive. People are who they are and think what they think.
Tbh i feel like the lady might have more to her story. Im imagining something like she was in the streets or grew up in the streets and got this job and it was like a gift from God and all blah blah blah and maybe that's why she's naive?- ik my reason might not make sense but ahe probably believed it or smth
@@molotochnik.ithere’s being naive and there’s being a f*cking idiot 😒😒😒
@@SaraNightfire1I'm sorry. 🥺
They should charge both parents. You don't adopt a kid and hand them over to some shady person like a broken toy. You don't adopt a kid and after discovering severe mental and physical issues, abandon the kid and your wife. I don't want to have kids because I know I'm not selfless enough to give them the care they need. Not everyone deserves to be parents.
Font blame dad
It's completely the mother's fault.
You sound crcrazy, it's not illegal to be a bad husband. Being away at work does not fall under neglect..
@@MrRepoman197no it’s not. He KNEW that he had those problems, and he left her to deal with that alone. He’s having violent outbursts and other issues that she’s not equipped to deal with and he knew that. He should’ve stayed home until Nikki was more adjusted and he should’ve arranged to get him some actual help
@@birusshe deserves blame
1:50 thats.... child abandonment. And they're saying they can't charge her for breaking any laws? Wtf? You can he arrested for not picking up your kid from the hospital or from school etc but she's allowed to just give him to a stranger without the dad's consent and not be charged with a crime????
Scary as it is the dad doesn't much factor into most family laws depending where in the world you are a mother can move cities hell countries while having joint custody with the father and the dad just has to deal but if he can't change addresses without permission of the court and if he needs to move for work usually it incurs an increase in child support payments and forgoing of custody rights
What do you call giving up kids to the foster system?
Happens everyday. There are Facebook groups for “rehoming” . The American adoption system was literally designed by a woman who sold 5000 babies on the black market and was a serial killer. She died of cancer days before her trial. Sometimes cancer gets it right!!!
@@AnimatedBlast Without the coparent's permission? I call it illegal.
Well, that's what I'm saying. Why is dumping your child to some random people who don't have any type of background checks or requirements not a prosecutable crime but puttingthem in foster care voluntarily (I mean as they get older not infants) @AnimatedBlast
It's so weird as someone who is not from the US how there are laws that are literally enabling things like this. Like how can you one day decide to give away your child to strangers and it's legal in some states? Are the people in charge apart of a ring exploiting children because who in their right mind thinks this will benefit the kids.
Well the long and short is that the intention is that you are dropping your kids off at a police station or a firehouse.
The idea is that it is better for parents who realize they are unfit to give up custody.
Things like this gray market adoption bullshit that happened aren't what's meant to happen And there are laws to prevent it.
But unfortunately every system has it's flaws every system has its holes and sometimes it fails that people it's meant to protect in the case of this episode at least three times
The answer is quite simple. It’s a fictional drama made for TV
@@johnleriger8730but we all know this happens in real life as well. In a country where they spend billions on military and police and God knows what else, why are children not protected? Sooo many children have been failed by this system, it’s sick
@@johnleriger8730 The shows have always taken directly from real life. Have you not heard of the Stauffers and their regifting of their own adopted Chinese child. He wasn't getting the same views a couple of years in - so he had to go - que crying video over how hard they had it how difficult he was how they weren't told all the details by the Chinese orphanage - and child disappears. Perfectly legal, apparently, just like that lawyer said. Filthy and repulsive and utterly immoral but certainly legal.
not from the US, but the feel that I get from the country is that there were a bunch of small nations united to form a great nation, that's why they are so parochial regarding the law state by state.
They're not just autonomous from each other, they view it as independents and sovereigns regarding one state or another.
That was even the base for racism in the deep south, the (in) famous Jim Crow laws. Google the Mississippi Sovereign Commission.
Any other place this would be treated in the federal level, especially considering the kid crossed state lines. I know in my country the Feds would be on, because the crime is across state lines and, by our constitution, this is a crime of uniformed repression
I have high functioning Aspergers, my mom told me that they told her that she was offered to institutionalize me.
She told them hell no, this was early 80’s. Kids were banging their heads against a wall wearing helmets.
My mom spent over a decade working with me and bringing me to several types of therapies to help improve my work.
This is inexcusable, there’s always an way.
I'm so glad that your mother never gave up on you, that's a true parent
Your mom sounds like she is a wonderful woman
🩷🩷🩷
And see you had a real mother.
What that mother did was absolutely detestable
A wise hedgehog once said:
"Kids, there's nothing more cool than being hugged by someone you like, but if someone tries to touch you in a place or in a way that makes you uncomfortable, that's no good! It's your body. No one has the right to touch you if you don't want them to so what do you do? First say NO! Then you get out of it. Most important you got to tell someone you trust like your parents, your teacher, a police officer."
And she had one child and couldn’t take care of her. Just lazy and sick!
I’m sorry but she deserves to be in jail, divorced and nowhere near any child after this. She should have gotten help, not drop the child off like he was a bag of trash. She said she would never harm a child but she did the second she gave him away. The laws of cases like this need to be rewritten if nothing could be done against the women. Something should have been done. Thanks for uploading.
I have a feeling the mother sensed all the red flags and did it anyway. Probably out of spite for Nikki, probably almost punishing him.
This is like what happened with Myka Stauffer. Re-homing adopted kids with disabilities, it's sick. Hope that real life situation turned out better.
And sadly Huxley Stuaffer as well😢
He opened the car open? Where are the child safety locks!? You're at fault lady!
Child locks first came into use in 1949 and were required on every model and variant on all doors by 1985 there is no fucking way she had a car without them
@@michaelkeha Really? I guess that was only a thing in the U.S. because when I was a kid (around 1980 maybe?), I was in the car with my family but I failed to slam shut the car door properly and fully lock the door. It was an old car and you had to use a bit of force (not like modern cars) to get the door to fully close. It had one of those knobs you push down to lock the door after that. Anyway I had failed to fully close the door next to me but nobody noticed except for me. I didn't want to have to tell my father who was driving because I was probably afraid he'd blow up at me for making him pull over so I said nothing. Then at some point my father turned a corner and this caused the door to partially open and fortunately, my mother had the quick reflexes to grab me and the door so I wouldn't fall out onto the road. I don't have much recall of the event, only what I described. I don't think the danger of the situation really registered with me. I was worried that the door wasn't shut, but more worried about my father's reaction to having to stop.
@@SY-ok2dq that sounds more like the car was fucked and wasn't properly working
@@michaelkeha No it was working. But it was an old, old car, and this was back in the early 80s at the latest. It was made in an era when cars were made of heavy steel - like tanks they were compared to later cars - and the door was heavy for a child to pull shut. It required some force to pull and latch into place (it wasn't that the door wasn't locked but that it wasn't properly latched closed).
However, I had ridden in other peoples' newer cars and at that time, central automatic locking wasn't a thing. They all still operated by the same principle of the manual door lock, usually a knob set in the door next to the window that you pushed down.
@@SY-ok2dq yeah something like that happened to me once too
In Texas, they just a
Instated a new law called “Athena Alert” to broadcast on an regional alert for missing children, whether or not they have confirmation of a kidnapping. I think everyone needs to does this. Having to have confirmation that they were kidnapped to put out an alert for a missing kid kinda seems counterproductive
Athena alert or amber alert? I thought it was amber?
@@zenya9620it's two different alerts
@@zenya9620Amber alert is for confirmed abductions. Athena alert, from the sound of it, is for a missing child. Kids could go missing because they ran away, and if they did that, there’s likely a reason behind it as well. Regardless, a more generalized alert for this situation does sound like it would be useful and effective
@@michaelkeha oh thanks.. I didn't know
@@raymondfisheriii791 yep probably will save a lot of lives
I've seen plenty of desperate parents in need of help badly, but usually they sought out help from any support they have. If they didn't have anyone to turn to for support, then to hospitals, social workers, or other legal channels. Certainly not to some rando on a website which is an obvious red flag of handing a child into a questionable situation.
More so when the father is willing to pay for her to hire all the help she needs while he's away she literally had every out to this situation and she chose the worst possible one
Exactly.
She didn't wanted a help she wanted to get rid of him for good. That's why she lied to husband and everyone that boy was kidnapped.
“I could never harm a child”
Proceeds to give him to pedos. What a piece of work. 😒
We need the death penalty for proven child molesters.
The problem with the death penalty is that there a plenty of people who were found innocent after they were executed. Are you willing to risk that.
Or would you rather have molesters alive and able to suffer instead of just being killed and it being over with.
@@talkytabby2878that’s why they said Proven child molesters but unfortunately there’s so many gray areas in this world and we don’t always know for sure. If we could know for sure absolutely I agree with the death penalty but if it’s too much a risk for an innocent life to be charged then no I disagree. Personally I think child molesters just shouldn’t be able to get out of prison period no parole just life in prison.
@@talkytabby2878You must have missed the word "proven" in the post.
@@stephaniemorrissey5114
These innocent people were determined innocent after being “proven” guilty in court, so…
See “The Sun Does Shine” by Anthony Ray Hinton.
@@stephaniemorrissey5114the unfortunate thing is that certain investigators could be satisfied with very little as "proof" as long as it allows them to execute the person
Human laws and justice systems aren't perfect and unfortunately some people use them to get rid of people they don't like, even if they're completely innocent
Technically any child who has gone missing will have an Amber Alert. It was actually made because the girl it’s named after wasn’t investigated cause she technically left her own home. She was found murdered (I think kidnapped as well idk)
She was kidnapped while she was riding her bike
That’s unfortunately not true there needs to be enough proof they were taken and meet a certain criteria of information about who it was, where, when, time and transportation before they can release an Amber alert
Amber Hagerman was kidnapped while riding her bike while she was 9 years old. Police realized that if they had alerted everyone around them to her kidnapping, they would have found her before she was murdered. So, the family lobbied to create the Amber Alert System which has saved hundreds of children since.
@@TransformerspInk6517 I’m just going off what I’ve read online. I think it needs to be after a certain period idk. I’m not a cop
They have to know what vehicle the child is in (model, color, and plate)
Adopted parents need to be prepared for children to have problems, these kids have trauma, alcohol exposure, drug exposure, etc. If you arent ready for it, dont do it.
My adopted son has FASD he was adopted when was 3, you dont give up your kids.
There also should be background checks.
Well, I just gave up on everybody here. Starting from the Mayor, to the orphanage, the adoptive mother, and these...subhuman species...(only ones exempt were the ones that actually fought for Nicky to be found).
Wasn’t the mayor convicted of CP ?!
@@dafg1119 yes in a later episode. Benson and the SVU were investigating a pedophile ring case that expanded to Chicago, which ended up having Hank Voight, Jay Halstead and Erin flying to New York to help out Benson. Come to find out the ring leader of the ring worked as a social worker for CPS.
Divorce papers are on the way, sir
Adoption agencies should BY LAW disclose any and all problems to potential adoptive parents.
This is devasting I can't even imagine for these sweet kids must be going through.
And the fucked up thing about this, it happens irl too. Any gender, female or male, they do this for their disgusting desires. Its so.... God knows why they're not given a death penalty.
@@average-art3222 simple people and the law support monsters like this and demand everyone else pays for their food, healthcare, entertainment, and shelter instead of just executing them.
This episode shattered my heart into pieces. I was completely at a loss for words.
I can’t tell which is more impressive - that a couple of criminals would use Yankee Stadium as a fake address, or that somebody else would have it memorized. I mean if it’s that memorable, why would somebody be stupid enough to use it.
Wouldn’t any good Yankees fan know Yankee Stadium’s address?
Elwood Blues used Wrigley Field as a fake address.
east river, central park are all used fake addresses. its actually smart since if it works than that means the person accepting it didn't do any background checking and hence are the perfect victims of scams
Anyone else reminded of Munch remembering the fake address in the middle of the Hudson River?
It's a long-running gag in all the law&order franchises that criminals use fake addresses that would be obvious to old hands, like yankee stadium or the middle of the hudson river. Cops are pros, these criminals are amateurs. The cops recognize the fake addresses because they've seen it all before but the criminals (and the other civilians interacting with them) have never seen fake addresses being used so it's all new to them.
Should have hired some nanny's
This lady has no right to call herself a "mother". I'm glad Olivia found the boy at the end of the episode
All things considered, those were very accurate suspect sketches @5:25
Fun fact about this episode: Noah's first appearance
Nice
I love the scene where Olivia finds him, watching it you just know that this specific rescued child is going to have an effect on Olivia’s life ❤
The blonde woman they interview at the daycare center is ‘yoga jokes’ from
Orange is the new black and voiced patty mayonnaise from the cartoon doug
Actually? I never would’ve guessed that!
Constance Shulman is the actress' name.
@@NDW85thank you :) I couldn’t remember her name lol
Nice change for the father to be shown as the good parent.
I mean he was shown as caring about the child once he was gone. However he abandoned his wife and newly adopted child whilst going off for humanitarian work. So I wouldn't exactly say he's a good parent, he just didn't commit a crime.
However, there are lots of great dads out there.
@@KateLate____he literally was willing to pay for assistance. What are we talking about here. I suffered post partum and my fiancée hired a nanny because he had to work since you need money to survive and all. The wife LIED that she could handle it and from my pov as a analyst more than likely she gave that poor child away to hurt the one she blamed for her incompetence (her husband) and that makes this so much worse 😣
Why not give your child to DCFS? If you can't raise your child yourself, At least they will make an effort to send the child to the most loving foster home or permanent adoptive parents❤
@BRUNETTECANARY A lot of the time DCFS won't take back a child its a very rare occurrence, so the adoptive parents will seek out other people to hand over a troubled child without the hassle of a background check or excessive paperwork.
@@MsWiccanpriestess That's a rare thing for sure🤔 So DCFS can come to your home and forcibly take your child from you if they decide you are an unfit parent and even bring the cops if they have to, but they won't take a child that you yourself bring to them? Sounds hypocritical of them🤨
Good foster homes are 1 in a million..Most kids get abused in them
@@murdahmammiez it is terrible yes. But what can anyone do to prevent someone's suffering? Take my case for example, all of my life, I've been bullied in school and by my own mother, I don't have the intelligence to live on my own and support myself financially, I am 34 years old, a single mother to my only child a daughter and I'm still living with my mother. My mother threatened to kick me out if I put my daughter up for adoption, which is what I was going to do. I have no job, nor do I have the intelligence to learn anymore, my self esteem is lower than zero and I live with false hope that my daughter's father will come back someday. I say someday because he hasn't responded to me ever since I told him I was pregnant with his child, and my daughter is 2 and a half years old now. My IQ is that of a 13 year old, and the only incone I have is food stamps and health insurance from the government, no child support. And nobody helps me because I have come to hate everyone around me.
Do you really think that I am a better choice for my daughter than the possibility of an abusive foster home?🤨
They don't do returns
I know this is just a television show, but I just could not watch the whole thing. It was just too sick. PLEASE someone tell me that they caught these monsters.
they did the wife turned on the husband when she saw he was faking his paralysis i don't remember what happened to the girls but the boy was found passed out in a bathroom and got medical help and the dad promised to be around more and the baby was eventually adopted by Olivia
@@jessilynallendilla5014I think they found homes for the girls. It’s been a while since I’ve watched this episode
Yea they did and this is how they introduce baby Noah. He was in the home with the kids
She’s on their case for saving every child when she can’t even keep her own children safe
This is the episode where Olivia first meets and rescues baby Noah. ❤
What she did is still fully legal in the US, except for leaving the husband out of it. Adopted kids are regularly "rehomed" in Facebook groups. There is no one tracking those transactions, and it's not even against the terms of service. Rehoming pets is, but not children. People even hold shows where kids walk a runway in front of prospective "parents" who are considering adopting them.
This is one of MANY reasons that so many people who've been adopted are against most adoption when they grow up. It's not impossible to take a child who needs a home in and love them, but the system we have for that currently is massively corrupt and not designed for the good of children. It's designed for people who want to buy a child, and even the ones you might consider good parents are often not coming from a healthy and respectful place.
Hell, even when they are coming from the right place, the law itself around adoption usually automatically erases the child's former name and cultural identity. Adopted kids don't even have the legal right to their original birth certificates in the US. They're issued new birth certificates when they're adopted, so they can't even have their original last name or the names of their birth parents.
That 9 y.o looked dead behind the eyes, poor baby
I was an armful of autism for my parents and I am grateful.
What ever happens to the kid the mother should be arrested and charged with felonies against the kid
The situation was a total mess from the beginning. I remember this episode, but not all the details.
The orphanage bear the responsibility for creating this mess in the first place by not informing the couple about all of Nikki's problems. They definitely deserved to know about that.
The mother calling out on her husband on where was he when she needed him - I have to agree with her on that much. I don't know how long they had Nikki before he had to leave for those six weeks, but obviously not long enough for them to adjust to the problems that Nikki had besides his diabetes. I get the feeling those problems are the kind that needed the attention of both parents. And obviously, the mother couldn't handle it by herself.
I know they found Nikki at the end. I also know that the father had begun to take steps to be in Nikki's life more. Either he began to make arrangements where he still worked at that company but no longer traveled like he had, or he was going to leave the company for a different job. As for the mother - I don't think she'll be in the picture any more. Was he planning for a divorce? Don't know about that, but at least a separation or something along those lines with arrangements for her not to be in Nikki's life any longer.
I remember a segment from Oprah, where she's interviewing a couple who had adopted two children from an orphanage, and both of them had mental or emotional problems. The father sounded frustrated over the situation, but he wasn't thinking of returning the kids. He was angry with the orphanage for not telling him and his wife about their problems. I wonder if this episode isn't partially based on that interview.
Big truth and tough cases
Did it occur to that man (in real life) that maybe the orphanage didn't KNOW?
The man in the SVU episode says that no one held him as an infant, but that doesn't automatically mean that the orphanage were negligent monsters!
Same in the real life interview - orphanages are run by humans, and are usually understaffed... so the staff really can't give each unwanted baby everything they need to thrive.
That's why human couples start with having ONE baby (or twins/triplets some of the time, but one pregnancy). They want to give that baby ALL the attention they have, and help them develop in the early years.
Orphanages have hundreds of babies and far less staff. When do they have TIME to give them all the attention they need? They barely have time to give them food and nappy changes! :(
@@dmf1301I was going to leave it alone but whatever I'll say it:
Why are you up and down this entire comment section justifying child abuse and neglect?
There are so many of these comment chains where, every time someone remarks how terrible the situation and the people involved are, you come to the rescue with "ThEy'rE JUsT HuMAns, GUyS".
Yes, they're humans. That doesn't mean anything. Humans can be wonderful, they can also be absolutely horrific and evil individuals who need to be locked away or even eliminated for the good of wider society.
Your comments honestly prove my point on how willing society is to justify abuse if the people responsible hit all the right buttons.
He literally offered to get her help while he was gone and Nikki was doing well with the father who gave the child order and routines she refused to follow while he was away she had 6 weeks to freely hire a trained professional to help her but she didn't nah this is all on her
Reminds me also of the Myka Stauffer case a few years back -mommy vlogger who adopted a Chinese orphan with learning difficulties but then got tired of his behaviours and needs despite knowing before adopting he had them and then gave him away to another family like he was a pet - put a sob story video out when people noticed the child wasn't appearing in the videos anymore and the Internet was rightfully horrified - she never got any punishment though for literally giving away her adopted child through Facebook groups and the horrifying thing is these groups are still up and running.
Giving away the adopted child because they can't handle it or don't want it shouldn't be allowed.
then it would just be abused
Giving a kid back to a sketchy place shouldn’t be allowed. Giving a kid back to a legit organization should be allowed. As heartbreaking as it is, the kid would not thrive
@ChristianRaines4946 Sadly, it happens more than we think, just because we don't hear about it on TV or hear it on the radio doesn't mean it doesn't happen. And yet only 20-30 states don't have any sort of federal laws or protections against rehoming or reunification.
@@MsWiccanpriestess Doesn't surprise me at all
@@CharlesRaines4946 Utah is just one of many states that allow abused children to be reunified with their abusers. The governor, Mayor of Utah have been trying to get the laws of rehoming and reunification changed and make it illegal for children to go back to their abusive homes.
The Father should've divorced this woman and gotten full custody
i almost threw up
Couldn't they get a warrant to search her internet use and find whomever she looked up?
That is disgusting. I can’t believe this happens in real life
Here’s is just another example of how adoption is not always the best option! This episode should serve as a reason why all prospective adopting parents should be properly screened before they can be eligible to adopt!
3:39 - 5:34, every time I see and hear Constance Shulman, I'm always reminded of her VA role as Patti Mayonnaise from Nickelodeon's Doug.
The mom genuinely needed to be charged!
I had to go and watch the full episode because y'all can't leave me hanging!
What happened? 😨
That 'adoption centre' lady is why Adoptions and anything to do with children should be managed by the state at least
This mother is disgusting. Jesus chirst...there's no telling how much damage has already been done. She deserves infinite jail time and/or a death sentence depending on the abuse or damage has been done to the child.
Please don't use the Lord's Name like that
Facts are facts they never change. A leopard never changes it's spots
"It's a strict religious family"
Okay, charge her with accessory to child abuse and whatever else, just for that alone.
they weren't
Phew, I was scared for a minute there
my kids DRIVE ME NUTS I never even had a thought to give them away 😢
Okay what irritated me to no end is that they got the child back after this ordeal.
Look what she did was disgusting and irresponsible. There's no question that the child wasn't safe with her, that being said the husband isn't blameless either. It was clear his wife was becoming overwhelmed. Taking care of disabled people in general, much less a child, is not for the emotionally weak or people who lack patience. It's not for everyone, and that's okay, doesn't give you license to just give your kid away to strangers there are many way better options. This whole episode was a rollercoaster.
How is it that to blame when he had their child on a routine that the mother refuses to do she did not want him it's a 3 days after he left for her to make up a story give it to the cops about how she lost her child and someone kidnapped him how she gave someone her child by searching the internet that takes time and dedication if he is working to find ways to take care of that child and he is also going to work and maintaining the household and told her that if you need extra help then he will get nannies and extra help for you including when as a woman as I am we get more help than men do so if she would have just went to a hospital went back to the agency went to a social worker went to somewhere to get help she would have gotten help instead she took the easiest and quickest explanation hoping that he was never going to be found and lied and said that there was no father so she could give that child up she didn't want him then she should have stated that in the beginning instead she brought him home because if she would have told the social services the social worker the agency that she adopted him from that she didn't want him and she don't feel like that was a good fix for him because apparently he doesn't act like that when the father is around only with the mother is around which means that either the mother is doing something to trigger him or she doesn't do anything to really help until it was literally the last seconds of when the father was really about to leave for her to try and quotations I should say to properly so called raise that child by herself and it was only 3 days he was even gone for the whole 6 weeks and when he found out that boy was missing he went and made a police report right away went straight there to see how he can help how to find out his first words when he found out it was his wife was why didn't you ask for help when I told you I could give you the help she said how by getting armed guards that is not a response that any real mother would say no matter how difficult their kid is in as a person who is a mom I would have loved to have that child with me but yeah I have the audacity to blame the father even partially when they are together that little boy is doing well he is fine he is carrying he is showing love when he goes That's when apparently he acts out so either he had a woman in his life that didn't take care of him correctly so he's not comfortable with females like that or she's doing something or he could sense something in her that says she is not it but we are not going to put that blame on that man who did nothing but love his son and come back home to find out that his wife has said that not only did he not have a father but also lied to the police saying that he was kidnapped Not only was he kidnapped but he also has medical health issues real medical health issues that could have killed him and she didn't even give them the medicine for him to even be well taken care of it shows more about her character then his her character leads up to her going on the internet searching up agencies that's not legit because she could have just went back to the agency that she got him from and gave them to people who wouldn't give her their name or have a real location to even see if they wanted to get back and let's be real like if she would have got away with it how was she really explain to her husband who would have came home with the next 6 weeks to know son like let's be real how was she going to be like oh he ran off he got kidnapped I went to the cops and we just can't find him safe status like it makes no sense in as a person who been in the system themselves and been hurt as a kid I refuse to have a person say that that man did anything wrong when he didn't as a woman I'm not going to let you put the blame on no man there he was loving he was caring he was everything a father should have been he was hard-working going to do his business even with his tiresome life and we could tell if this was a real life because let's be real working on us hours and then coming home with an autistic child who also has health problems could really make you tired and stressing that's for normal parenting but when you don't have no blood connection and you have to build that connection from scratch it's even harder how is it that this man could do it this man who goes to work all day just to come back home to be with his wife and his child could be able to connect the bond with his son and the person who's with him supposedly all day couldn't how is it that the woman who we supposed to have that motherly bond that connection of no harm in anyone which blows my mind when I hear how females who could even carry their kid could kill their own children how is it that we ladies could have this emotional connection with everyone else but when it comes down to a child who really needs that love they can't do it but everyone wants to say men don't have no emotions when in reality they have way more emotions than females do it's sad that men have to go through all this pressure in his pain and females don't and I mean when it comes down to show me emotions cuz then it's becomes gay supposedly that when you see a female being the way this mother was being that people want to go but she's only human or well she's not fully to blame it was also her husband's fault too because he should have helped her when he told her if you needed help we could get help she chose not to so she could do what she wanted to do which was get rid of that little boy because she's not with him she deserves to be locked with everybody who hurts a child she deserves to be greenlit
@@mahailiabrown3972 umm so? The dad's guilt or innocence is irrelevant. If a wife neglects or abuses her child while dad is at work or away, the kid runs away, is found by police, and then tells them what his mom did and they just let him go home because the dad wasn't involved how does that benefit the child? The person who neglected/abused the kid in the first place is still there and therefore that child is not safe.
This situation is no different. That woman clearly cannot handle a child with severe special needs. So unless the father is going to quit his job and care for him full time there's no guarantee something like this wouldn't happen again. This all happened because mom couldn't handle it, and dad was in denial about how bad it was getting because he's not around as much. Literally nothing had changed and he was just sent back with them like nothing even happened...so how is this kid magically safe now?
The Deputy Commissioner or whatever he was later turned out to be a pedophile himself.
Gee, if only she had an option to terminate the pregnancy after pre-natal testing showed the disability, so this child didn't have to suffer those awful things... Good thing politicians were on the case!!🙄
"The term they use is rehoming."
I prefer the actual name for it, human trafficking.
Hire a nanny, lady! 😂
This is a similar situation in "I Spit on Your Grave 3". There's a young Girl who is being sexually abused by her step-dad. Her Mother chooses to turn a blind eye to it!
Wa! Wa! Wa! Cry me a River lady. Why wasn’t she arrest for child endangerment and since there was money exchange and she stupidly handed him to child predator she should be charged for child exploitation.
That’s why adoption is one of those things, you need to be prepared both emotionally and financially with who you get. You don’t know what kinds of issues they may have later in life both emotional and physical that may not be present when you adopt them. I remember the true story about the couple that adopted a 4 year old from the Ukrainian or Russia believe and sent her back. They said she tried to kill her baby brother who was also adopted from there.
The guy playing the molester with the beard always plays a bad guy. I have never not once seen him play somebody good in anything😂😂😂😂
I’m gonna say this. I know for a fact I don’t have the ability to take care of someone with autism. I wouldn’t give a kid away to strangers like this woman.
And yet we are forcing women like this all over the country to have children. Thousands of children will suffer like this.
this was adoption but i agree, some men and women shouldn’t have children at all
@@ganeevgill5286
Where are you thinking those unwanted kids are gonna go if their mothers are unable to access abortions?
Foster care is gonna rise and we already have a shortage/abusive foster parents
@@desireeloveros1055 maybe just maybe women ought to use birth control properly
@@deusexmachina9776 Maybe just maybe women AND men ought to use birth control. Very often women just dont have access to birth control and guys don't like the"feel" of using a condom...
@@seraphiccandy21 if women dont have acess to birth control how do guys have access to it then? that doesnt make sense.
women are far more in control over getting pregnant
Yoga Jones, from the tv show "Orange Is The New Black" is in this episode, that is so cool! ♥️
Yea kids are difficult but if she didn’t want her child so badly she should’ve just signed off custody to the child’s father not this.. this kind of person is clearly unstable..
I've gotta go back and watch these episodes. I don't remember this one.
Patty Mayonnaise! What are you doing here?!?!? 😮😮😮😂
0:03 you always have a choice
I dont get how the mom wasnt charged with child endangerment?
1:30 this woman must be colour blind, not seeing a red flag as bright as that :/
In case you see someone trolling for children on the internet, then call the FBI. And state police.
That prosecutor or whatever she is, would drive me insane. She was trying to block any action to find the boy. Caring more about the mother who gave him away, or the bs red tape. Than the child possibly in danger. Despite the fact she should have known the father had rights.
She's not stopping or blocking them. She's saying what the law would accept and allow. If they do it wrong, the perp walks.
OMG it's the YOGA LADY 😂😂😂
I remember this episode so vividly, it’s insane. I remember watching this YEARS ago at 1am on Cable and I still can’t forget it
“Excuse me counslor” 😂😭
No you didn't hurt him directly but you gave your son to people who would hurt him
this episodes reminds me why i think people NEED to be LICENSED to become parents. our species is capable of HORRORS beyond description
I yelled when I saw the adoptive father’s mugshot-Bobby from Sons Of Anarchy!
Shouldn’t the mother have been arrested?
Someone please put spoilers here I need answers
I don't remember all the details but they eventually find Nikki along with some other children, including a baby who we later learn is Noah. The people holding them are arrested.
You can usually find summaries on the 'net - there's a couple of sites out there for the various L&O episodes, but the summary I found was on Huffpost.
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They find Alexa first, who was getting additonal insulin, then most of the other children at a motel, but Alexa clams up. Eventually they get an alert of Roger at the Airport, but just miss him. But they did get a vid of Roger out of his wheelchair walking on his own, which they show to Alexa - she immediately turns on him, as he'd used his disability to get her to do everything for him.
Roger is arrested at a Chinese restaurant, but he'd left Nicky at the airport. They find him in the bathroom of a plane headed for Atlanta, which Nicky thought was headed for Georgia the country (his original home).
BTW - Roger is played by Mark Boone Jr, who you might recognise from Sons of Anarchy and Batman Begins.
My adopted parents put hidden cameras in my childhood bedroom and filmed me nude as a minor
6 weeks? not 6 months, not 6 years. What a horrible mother
Everyone’s talking about the mother (and rightly so) but Mrs ‘But-They-Seemed-So-Nice’ was just completely stupid! No background check, not even looking at the address and not stopping to wonder why him being in a wheelchair meant they couldn’t go through the regular channels. How can someone honestly be that naive?
Imagine whining about a kid opening the door in a moving car when there are such things as child-locks in existence. If the kid was that unstable, he should have been in the back seat.
soooo easy to point fingers on the mother. BuT they haven't experienced taking care of a special child. the father kept saying solutions BUT did he take care of the child even for one whole week? then he would have known first hand how hard it would have been
I love the actress playing the frazzled "social worker".
What kind of woman gives away her own child?? Some women really just don't deserve to be mothers.
@@Arixanna13Oh, I know. And I don't care. I get that they never had kids of their own, and being left alone with him must've been a real tole on her mentally, but it's like Olivia said, "You call someone. You ask for help. You don't just discard a child."
@@leeammorris1268 • Children adopted from overseas can have mental health issues. It's been some time since I've seen a report but it evidently has to do with the conditions in the orphanages. Obviously, each country is different but it is a problem.
I think this was inspired by an event that happened. A vlogging family adopted a special needs little boy from Asia. They purposefully wanted a special needs kid.
They thought it would be something light and simple to deal with. But he was nonverbal, temperamental and more.
Viewers noticed odd things like his hands were taped (mind you he's nonverbal and hand motions were his way of communicating) then one day the boy wasn't in their vlogs anymore. Fans asked where he was, over and over until the mother admitted that they couldn't handle him and "rehomed him" with another family like he was a pet they could no longer keep (which technically was what he was to them, a new accessory for the channel).
People were pissed because it was legal and there was no telling what kind of people actually took him (hopefully they were good and a better suit), so the internet did what the Internet does and just wrecked them for treating that child that way.
@@LadyBernthis episode predates that incident by at least a decade
Not every person deserves to be a mother but
All of this is not what you need to do is wrong
4:30 the fact he knew the exact address to the stadium
I sincerely hope this episode takes a lot of liberties with the laws. I swear, if the laws they talk about are real, someone needs a good beating.
it's true in a lot of states parents "rehome" their adopted child like they're a dog they're tired of and it has little oversight the youtube family vlogger Myka Stauffer got a lot of hate for it a few years ago
The husband buggering off for 6 weeks immediately after adopting a special needs kid that his wife clearly didn't want, should not be allowed to have that back. Hell when my brother got his cat as a kitten he buggered off for a month and i told him he wasn't getting him back.
3:25-3:33 - You can't argue with him on that.
Wilful ignorance on every level. The mother just wanted him gone, the woman didn’t check anything she was told to verify
She did WHAT!? She gave her son to a family of NARCISSISTS!!!!