Hey, Thanks for the video. I am just getting back into Magic after an almost 25 year break. This really helps a lot. I do have one question though. There is this other method that people have mentioned to me called the T test. Does this work on that counterfeit card as well?
I seen guys put Collector edition faces onto beta backs, and it passed the bend test. But I don’t think it would pass the pin light test. I grew up in Seattle in the 90s and started playing magic during “the dark” era
The way I believe this process works - is the customer reaches out to you first to say they believe its counterfeit - then you must reach out to TCGPlayer - and I think TCGPlayer will require the customer to send them the card. If the customer is scamming, they can probably only get away with this once.
Nothing to worry about. I'm not selling my collection. If you see me rocking a black lotus or chains of Mephistopheles at a tournament, feel free to call a judge for a card check. 🤷
PC, I am great with MTG. What I am not good on is SCR. Can you do one for this new game? We all been buying tons, but don't know when the scammers will start faking them in mass.
I would love to - if someone would send me a counterfeit Sorcery card - I can put this together. I personally haven't seen one yet in the wild, but doesn't mean its not happening!
@@PhilosopherCards Ya, I don't know if I have one or not. Have not really bought too many high dollar cards and I try to check them with a loop to make sure they look like the real ones...but only guessing on what I am looking for. And SCR cards are more "smoother" than the older MTG, you can't use that as a 1st test.
It's not a good fake, the circle around the green dot should be flat on the bottom then on the right and the left should have an almost fuzzy 4 black dot pattern on the left and a round top. If you didn't know this you shouldn't be selling, bc I buy on TCG. At least you're honest, though, but you still don't know what to easily look for. Not to mention, the cards information box is printed last and should really stand out from the background as seen with a jewelersloop. And finding vintage NM cards and assume they're legit bc who you bought them from is suspicious, if you don't know what to look for and they obviously don't, they arent reputable. 😂 I'd start with the guy you purchased from. And never trust them again.
the black information text is clearly printed last on the fake card - its ran through a professional print shop with many layers. The guy I purchased from has a massive collection, and he purchased this from an LGS - not sure what you mean by the rest... I clearly identified that its fake after looking at them. I have sold over 25,000 orders on TCG player. This is the first fake in my shop.
@@PhilosopherCards That you know of, that info is for people that want to know, that you didn't mention or didnt know, its incredibly hard to counterfeit the green dot to that extent. I've been collecting since 98, I just hate people who counterfeit cards, I came off as busting your balls I apologize, just stuff sellers should know. Difference between collecting and selling, maybe you do both idk. It's still a bad fake, vintage cards are never that glossy.
That trash!! Not like the super expensive cardboard made by our majesty WOTC. Or their official 30th anniversary proxies, those are indeed the real ones! 😡😡😡
I was able to see on the camera that the gloss on the wheel was off immediately.
It’s a damn shame people do that. It really does hurt the small shop owner and the end customer.
Thank you for sharing this, im glad TCG covered
Hey, Thanks for the video. I am just getting back into Magic after an almost 25 year break. This really helps a lot. I do have one question though. There is this other method that people have mentioned to me called the T test. Does this work on that counterfeit card as well?
Yes - that is a good one to check too - I recommend using multiple checks - some can pass 1 or 2 varying ones
I seen guys put Collector edition faces onto beta backs, and it passed the bend test.
But I don’t think it would pass the pin light test.
I grew up in Seattle in the 90s and started playing magic during “the dark” era
Yeah usually they split the card and glue them - the glue makes it hard to pass the test
What if you sent a real one and the customer that bought your card then disputes sending back a fake?
The way I believe this process works - is the customer reaches out to you first to say they believe its counterfeit - then you must reach out to TCGPlayer - and I think TCGPlayer will require the customer to send them the card. If the customer is scamming, they can probably only get away with this once.
Nothing to worry about. I'm not selling my collection. If you see me rocking a black lotus or chains of Mephistopheles at a tournament, feel free to call a judge for a card check. 🤷
PC, I am great with MTG. What I am not good on is SCR. Can you do one for this new game? We all been buying tons, but don't know when the scammers will start faking them in mass.
I would love to - if someone would send me a counterfeit Sorcery card - I can put this together. I personally haven't seen one yet in the wild, but doesn't mean its not happening!
@@PhilosopherCards Ya, I don't know if I have one or not. Have not really bought too many high dollar cards and I try to check them with a loop to make sure they look like the real ones...but only guessing on what I am looking for. And SCR cards are more "smoother" than the older MTG, you can't use that as a 1st test.
This is why I only shop tcg
It's not a good fake, the circle around the green dot should be flat on the bottom then on the right and the left should have an almost fuzzy 4 black dot pattern on the left and a round top. If you didn't know this you shouldn't be selling, bc I buy on TCG. At least you're honest, though, but you still don't know what to easily look for. Not to mention, the cards information box is printed last and should really stand out from the background as seen with a jewelersloop. And finding vintage NM cards and assume they're legit bc who you bought them from is suspicious, if you don't know what to look for and they obviously don't, they arent reputable. 😂 I'd start with the guy you purchased from. And never trust them again.
the black information text is clearly printed last on the fake card - its ran through a professional print shop with many layers. The guy I purchased from has a massive collection, and he purchased this from an LGS - not sure what you mean by the rest... I clearly identified that its fake after looking at them. I have sold over 25,000 orders on TCG player. This is the first fake in my shop.
@@PhilosopherCards That you know of, that info is for people that want to know, that you didn't mention or didnt know, its incredibly hard to counterfeit the green dot to that extent. I've been collecting since 98, I just hate people who counterfeit cards, I came off as busting your balls I apologize, just stuff sellers should know. Difference between collecting and selling, maybe you do both idk. It's still a bad fake, vintage cards are never that glossy.
Yeah I don’t do a ton of collection buys I mostly open newer product so some of those things weren’t too obvious for me
Start by writing fake with a sharpie so nobody ever gets that trash.
It will be marked and used for teaching purposes.
That trash!! Not like the super expensive cardboard made by our majesty WOTC. Or their official 30th anniversary proxies, those are indeed the real ones! 😡😡😡