Heartbreak With Judge Baker
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If they are telling other people what happened to them, it's because 1. They didn't trust you enough to tell you, or more likely, 2. They did tell you, but you wouldn't listen or didn't believe them. As for mom trying to break free, I don't judge her in that part. I know personally how hard, & scary, it can be. However, if your kids tell you SA is happening, you leave immediately & you call the police & file a report! Period!
You forgot 3. The perp convinced the kid that you will disown them or kill the perp, then blame it on the kid. Perps are very good at what they do.
Interesting he HASN'T abused his own biological daughter, only his step-daughters. That is complete consciousness of guilt!!!
That last mother is a piece of work. She can't stop lying. She isn't saying things to "screw with his mind" and be scared of him if he gets out. It's one or the other. Let's be honest, shes standing behind the monster that sexually abused her child(ren). WTF!?! She should never be allowed to see her children again. Just terminate rights, right now! She will never learn. Now that she knows her scheme to talk to without people knowing has been foiled she will play the game smarter. She already is talking about getting divorced for the appearance of it.
That mother - you KNOW she is standing by that monster rather than her own children. I don’t trust her at all. Seriously hoping these children can work through their trauma but I feel like the mother is going to retraumatize them all over again if they’re ever put back in her care 🥺
She didn't even bat an eye when the therapist was speaking.
It seems this mom needs to see her own worth to get away from him. He's the monster, he still has control over her from jail. She wouldn't dare speak up against him during those calls and release the dragon.
Classic Stockholm
@pattyconlon154 she has NO worth. None, whatsoever. She never will again, either. She should never be allowed to lay eyes on any of her kids ever again. Its not Stockholm and the vast majority of psychiatric specialists don't even believe that's a real syndrome, but trauma bonding is and it will still not make you sh*t all over your kids and praise your kids' abuser. Mom clearly fully supports the rapist and I'm positive she knew all along he was doing it and fully condones it. Even her own shrink stated she still doesn't believe those girls. She openly admits she loves passing him off. No one scared of their abuser would dare risk that. I don't buy she was battwred one single bit. F*ck her.
@@pattyconlon154She just shouldn't even talk to him. Refuse his calls and divorce his *ss.
Mom should have filed Protection orders and completed cut this "man" off. The way she laughs and says she pushes his buttons on purpose is an indication that she isn't even taking this seriously. This seems like a high school dramatic relationship, but she has two young girls to PROTECT. If the guy is acquitted, then they can try to work it out. The number one concern should be her children. Period.
This case breaks my heart. Mom is clearly insufficient in important ways, and yet not. Poor kiddos.
Bless the bio dad’s heart for being willing to have the youngest at his home whenever possible.
I think this is the most shocking of these I’ve seen. That mom’s response is appalling. I would not want anything to do with someone that did that
I can't wrap my head around a woman staying with a man that would raped her child. I don't care how controlling he was, she's foul being.
It’s mind-boggling. And he’s locked up and she is continually talking to him, and doesn’t believe her children therefore they got taken away from her. And the kids know she doesn’t believe them! Horrifying stuff, I cannot imagine. I hope she gets her sh!t together asap for those girls.
Mom (in pink shirt) can’t believe her girls and support them. She doesn’t understand she can’t play both sides. What a shame!
I have custody of my step daughter's younger half sister so the girls could be raised together after a CPS case.
The testimony of mom's therapist is very telling about the dynamics between mom and her husband/accused child SA offender. He talks about 'lifestyle choices' and 'perceived power' and 'family systems focused around se%ual behavior.' Along with mom's testimony, it appears that mom is in a se%ual dominance/submissive relationship with her husband by choice. Adults can choose to do their thing in the bedroom, but when that se%ualy submissive role comes to skew your perceptions regarding your _kid's_ rights to their physical autonomy and safety in your home, you need to seek help to uncover how you allowed a predator in their midst and why you're so invested in protecting your own interests with him over your children. Adults who can't wholeheartedly validate a child's abuse allegations only further traumatize their children, who have already been horribly betrayed.
Heartbreaking is an apt title for the last case. The therapists testimony in particular; was tremendously crushing to listen to. The sick feeling it gave me was hard to shake. 😢
I was in tears editing. It took me forever from the point of the child's therapist. I kept imagining that poor little girl being left behind. Tore me up
Thank you for editing and uploading this video despite the subject matter. These cases need to be seen, not swept under the hypothetical carpet. It's real life, and it happens too often.
@ontropulous can you please insert the numbers for the domestic violence hotline and the Center for Child Abuse and Exploitation? Just a thought that might be helpful. Abuse is not okay. No one is immune from it.
If someone is experiencing abuse, help and safety are available. 😞
@@OnTropolis hugs… thank you for your work
I love the therapist. They are doing a great job.
Im completely baffled and disgusted by “mom”. There’s no words for the sadness I feel for the child. 😢
The mom in the last case needs some serious therapy. What a liar!
Is it just me or does mom seem annoyed, even bothered but nit like sad or upset or devastated, when listening to the others discuss the trauma separation from the siblings would cause? Like, really?!
Not a tear or a word for her daughters' suffering. This mother is gross.
Visits are not the same as being together. It breaks my heart that these children will be torn apart. 💔
That last one was incredibly sad. I hope they don't separate the girls. That would be even worse. What a choice to make. Heart breaking!
Come on Mr. Hinsley Step up and keep these girls together.
Bad news-- Mr. H is a [convicted] child SA-offender (which is why his attorney requested the stream to go offline when the judge began asking questions about why he said there are "hurdles" to allowing non-biological children in his home). This is one of the worst cases I've seen lately. Those kids are in a desperate & dangerous situation at every turn. SA'ed by stepfather, mother chooses to bury her head in the sand & remain with him & now they're close to being placed with ANOTHER offender!
@@bayshorelaw6970 oh, my gosh, thank you for letting everyone know. Just leave those girls where they are. Keep them together what a family of scumbags.
Can you just ask her straight out if she believes her daughter?
Finally, someone just asked the question. Never a straight answer out of this woman.
Mrs. Larsen here. They caught that mom read handed conversing with the monster husband. Pray he gets the book tossed at him. I can kinda understand mom being under monsters control. But to NOT trust a daughter's word has me wanting to shake that mom awake. But leads me to think mom is now using the tactics she had done to her to manipulate the court and little girls. Bio dad get over your hurdles and take all 3 girls. Monster Husband. . For you .. enjoy your cell. Mom Lindsey wake the hell up!
Bio dad is a sex offender as well
@@mackg468yurp! Gross
The mom on the big case needs some serious therapy! Omg.
To Ms. Hail: um, I feel like you could just stop talking to him.
She has what I call "Dead Eyes", meaning When she is talking about him, her eyes are open and she's sort of in control, However, when she is being spoken about or her husband is, her head drops, her eyes go down and you can tell it takes her back to feeling out of control. I've been there...However, I will never understand a mother not believing her children! I've been a victim of that too and the DAMAGE IS IRREVERSIBLE!😢
I will never understand a mother who chooses another person over her children. Specially one who has harmed them. And these fathers who do such disgusting things. SMH…
An Autistic child & Adult need stability every day, every hour & once this baby starts thriving it's not fair to disrupt her progress if a mother isn't trying to do better! I am a recovering addict I have suffered with mental health & I'm a Autism Mama SOOO I can def speak upon this.. I busted my ass to be where I am today..
Shame on any parent that chooses a spouse over a child.
Why cant the youngest go with her older sisters, if shes going to be in foster care what difference does it make.
😢 wow “mom” you can’t be a grown woman acting the way you do
This is about the most disgusting case I've watched. Those poor, poor, poor children!!!!!!
I want to shake this mom and scream in her face. Her kids dont have time to wait for her to "separate" or get herself together. Sometimes parents have to do really hard, painful things. My heart is broken for those babies. 💔
For me it is always so hard to watch cases like this. As an adult who was SAed who never had the chance to receive justice.
Knowing what it was like to have told what was happening and been ignored by parents. I pray these children can heal and grow into productive adults.
This Mom is a sad excuse of a human. Horrible. So sad for these kiddos.
Honestly, she can k*ll two birds with one stone. She can separate from her hubbie and get retribution if she cuts contact. If she thinks "pressing his buttons" will be satisfying, imagine his ire if she ignores him. That'll drive him mad. If he is a narcissist and she avoids him, his "supply" will be cut. That's the goal in dealing with a narc.
Hello Mom!!! Please listen to your children. I was molested by a step dad. Told my Mom and she slapped me across my face and told me to get out of her house. Men always come first in her life To this date, I do not talk to her
Good Lord - Felt surging hope at the end, hearing bio-dad of the oldest 2 treats the youngest girl kindly & was including her. Just as I thought "Well why is there no suggestion of him taking in all 3?" they moved off YT for private discussion & my heart sank. Records check confirmed my fear - he's a [child] SA-offender. These poor kids. Pulled out of their home due to stepfather's SA & are close to being placed with a bio-dad convicted of the exact same crime. I understand the offender holds the blame, but a mom who not only willingly chooses to disbelieve their little girl's cries AND willingly chooses MULTIPLE partners who are S--Offenders is......well, I can't find a strong enough word for it, so I'll say 'beyond despicable to put it nicely.
No - there’s NO way he’s a SA - I promise
@40 mum is just lost cause instead of getting herself away from this POS she is continuously hanging on and then hanging out with other man FFS grow a spine and stand on your own feet. He is in jail this is your time to get away. I know its hard but so frustrating.
I hope Judge Baker will take the mental health of all 3 children since these parents aren’t capable of doing what’s in the best interest of these kids.
Judge Baker please don’t split these kids up! They need you to be there for them.
The fact that mom seems to have no emotion .. I would be a mess.
Good Grief! The number of people invovled and expense in all these cases, because people are so messed up they can't raise a child or children, is incredible. Think how many children never get into the system and suffer. I'm thinking of immigrant children that just go off into the country with no tracking at all. And please don't tell my they are in the system and registered; they are not.
Always want to ask What efforts & searches the alleged father attorneys have done to track down their clients.
Why couldn't the other girls dad take all 3 girls in temporarily? Good lord mom, do you see what your willful ignorance has caused these kids? This is so tragic. As 1 of 3 girls born close in age, I can imagine seeing my two sisters walking off together and leaving me behind and the trauma that would follow, and the resentment that may build between the siblings as an inadvertent and unfortunate result as well. Ugh. Why do people have to suck so bad?!?!?!
I think he would have but there must be something in his history that precludes placement of a child that isn't his :(
@@OnTropolis because he's a registered SO too!!!
Keaton Lane Hinsley (Aliases: Hinsley,Keaton)
Crime: SEXUAL ASSAULT OF A CHILD, Conviction date: 2019-03-25, Statute: TEXAS PENAL CODE 22.011(a)(2),
Victim's age: 15,
Victim's sex: Female
Address: 1417 Hodges St
Risk level: Moderate
City: Amarillo, TX
Sex: Male
Date of birth: 1991-02-09
Eye color: Blue
Hair color: Blond
Height: 5'08"
Weight: 215 lbs.
Race: White Ethnicity: Non-Hispanic Registration date: 2019-04-01
I would be afraid of the 3rd girl being treated differently simply because she isn't his and is the daughter of the man that harmed his children.
This mother needs heavy therapy withOUT the girls around. The girls need the strength to be successful even at this young age. When mom is around not believing them could hinder that successfulness. The girls need each other and as many men around who are kind and helpful in making them successful.
Bio dad is a sex offender as well
Oh 💔 i hope those hurdles are that the bio dad of the older siblings can get overnights or 🤞 look at taking J in too ... Cant wait for the update on this one..i am emotionally invested now
As a DV survivor my level of empathy for the children as well as the mom is so high its breaking my heart. People don't understand the emeshment and trauma bond that is created with an abuser. That's why women don't leave they've been trained that leaving is harder than staying and the world doesn't make it seem better sometimes because often your abusers has surrounded you with people who make you feel like he's not abusive. Your reality is so incredibly skewed.
This is in no way to defend what she has done but to explain maybe for those reading how incredibly hard it can be.
A quick suggestion: it is pretty difficult to keep track of follow up cases. Maybe you could put the links and/or parties' names in the description? Maybe clip down the ones that you follow up on and make playlists for them?
I've made playlists for various judges to make it easier. When I'm able to easily find the prior cases, like multi part or when I'm following a case I do link them together. The problem is that sometimes I'm editing a docket and a case I previously featured comes back to court, and while I know we've seen it before I don't always know exactly where it was. These two were quite some time back and I'll be completely honest I can't remember what video. There's just too many to track unless they're on my calendar as continued or specific cases I'm intentionally following.
@@OnTropolisyou do a wonderful job and I'll take them however they come 👏🏽👏🏽
Thank you so much, this must be really taxing on your heart covering these types of cases ❤️
If Dad wants his kid’s out of foster care because it’s what is best for them then he should be made aware that splitting the children up is not best interest and he should fight for all three kids. It sounds as if all the girls need each other even if the not his kid would be the most hurt. She may not be his kid but she is his children’s sister. The harm that comes from splitting children up is permanent and can cause lifetime attachment issue great than just being removed from offending parents. The negligent/abusive parent(s) can be more easily overcome with maturity alone than being ripped away from a sibling who did nothing wrong and can cause greater issues later in life if the “left behind” (for simple phasing) child fairs worse in life in the system than they did back with a parent.
He was willing (I believe) to take juniper.. he's not allowed due to a history that disqualified him from being a placement for a non biological child
From what was said it sounds like he wasn't allowed to
I hate that Lindsay doesn’t not choose her children over everything and everybody! I guess I don’t understand battered woman syndrome! My personal opinion is of this MY CHILDREN ABOVE ALL ELSE! Is she being pressured by her moth in law????
I don’t understand how Mom can sit there texting others while an entire group of professionals discuss how to keep her daughters safe. Mom should really just loose access now and let them be adopted by people who will choose to protect them. I don’t know how mom isn’t covering her face in shame. How does she just sit there?
Poor jodi Goodman looks as though she was born without collar bones, that's actually a thing....
It's her virtual background making her look like that. I've seen her numerous times and she had a regular proportioned body shape
This mom’s hesitation is too much for me. It’s her JOB to believe her daughters! Mom is last line of defense for a child. If Mom can’t protect her girls, then she has no business having her girls!
Mom is being honest! She shouldn’t be penalized for being honest!
Well I’ve googled Keaton and in my opinion his bio daughters shouldn’t go to him let alone the non-bio child.
Keep these girls together now that the bit about the bio father should be a non issue (in my opinion anyway)
Lindsey hail is word salad on a mid morning sunday brunch menu Jesus Christ
She could still be fearful but it feels good having the upper hand for a change.
As someone who has dealt with years of gaslighting and had to fight to sort reality from the lies I understand why she is saying she wants to hear from her kids. When you aren't sure what is real and what isn't one of the first steps is wanting 1st hand accounts only and proof for everything. Now, I don't think that the kids should have to tell anyone anything that they don't want to, but I think that the therapist should have understood her desire to hear directly from the kids, but explained to her that she needs to start figuring out who she can trust and who she can't and learn better practices for figuring out what you are going to believe going forward.
I’ve been okay watching this until they started talking about Juniper. Now my heart is breaking and making me so angry at this Mother. These kids saying Mom is confused is only because they don’t have the vocabulary to use a more significant word to explain their feelings.
SHAME SHAME SHAME ON THIS MOTHER AT THIS POINT!
1st case That poor child! 2nd case Linsey sounds like a liar!
Why hasn't the Dad of the 2 older girls offered to take all 3 girls? 🤔
I suspect that they went off YT because of his recent criminal history. He is a registered SA offender (kid under 15).
so, mom has a predilection for S.O.s ????
@@sarahmaki6740 WAAAIT a minute.....so, kids who were SA'd by step dad are OK to go live with father who has a criminal past of SA?!?! NO!!!!!!! All 3 girls need to stay together then in placement!!
@@knitswithdirtya makes no sense.
He's a registered sex offender too
Mom
Is the most has zero compassion for her children
I didn't have a problem with Mr. Trout's questioning. I thought he did a good job. I had a problem with how much she lied and skirted around the issues.
Oh mom you are destroying these babies by not supporting them. You are the biggest and most important Role Model in their lives. There will come a day, when these girls will resent and Hate you for not being there for them. MARK MY WORDS!
If Mom has other men spending the night, that would be bothersome! She may be one of those mothers that has no self esteem and needs a man in a man in their lives. Which truly puts her kids at serious risk!
I dearly hope that this Keaton Hinsley is not (I’m sure the court would know) the 30ish, white, 215lb Hinsley Keaton on Amarillo’s SO list online…
He's not allowed to have the non bio child placed or for visitation.. so probably
@@OnTropolis Just an unusual name to share let alone similar looks/age according to the file if it isn’t him eh?
@@OnTropolisfor me I side eye even allowing a bio child to be placed with him bc of the SO. Makes no sense. Even if the offense is maybe for older minor children (13+) doesn't matter to me. Disturbing and disgusting SO is SO period and he should be banned from any minor EVER.
He is
I am shocked they would even consider placing his bio kids with him, considering why they’re in care in the first place! I wonder what would be more damaging, being returned to a mom who didn’t believe you about being SA’d, or being sent to a dad who is a convicted SA’er who apparently only sought custody after his kids were [allegedly] victimized by step dad? Is it worse to not be believed, or to be believed but everyone collectively decides they don’t prioritize your safety or care about the trauma of being separated from your little sister who is counting on you? If they’re safe and happy with their current placement (as happy as one can be, under the circumstances), and can remain there together-for Pete’s sake, leave them be! Supervised contact would be one thing, but now does not seem like the time for RSO dad to decide to be a custodial parent. Yikes, yikes, yikes!
The visitation will be heart breaking seeing her siblings coming and going. That will break this younger child. I’m sure the other Dad will agree just to get his daughters but he won’t keep it up.
18:47 me: Nooo!
18:56 you: That’s not great.
Stop torturing kids into behaving like somebody they’re not.
Why not just ask the older girls' dad to take Juniper too?
Is there anymore vids with the “ split” siblings?
Are there any updates on the 3rd case?
If it were me, I would take all three of these girls. I would never separate them.
With you on the ABA😢
I don’t want my child institutionalized. I want them to make adjustments to their own behavior and have the skills to seek needed support to fill the gaps, not creating gaps with unnecessary supports.
My 3 year old is in ABA right now and he’s doing great! He’s an only child and we’re a military family so away from friends and other family. He’s learning how to play with toys, he’s vocalizing more, and they’re helping in ways we can’t as parents. Right now he just goes a few hours a day, but once he’s done with naps he can go up to whatever insurance approves (I thinks it’s 30-35ish hours). Not all are created equal but ABA has come a long way and is letting therapies be child led.
My daughter was getting older and already in school full time (30 hours a week) by the time we got through waitlists. They were offering 4 hours/4 days plus 8 on Saturdays (24 hours a week). The center was an hour away and I needed to provide all transportation (10 hours of travel time a week). That right there is 64 hours a week for my child that fully structured we were in a time where 9-10 hours of sleep was ideal for her age (so 63-70 hours a week) that is 127-134 hours of her week. That left her max 41 hours a week to spend time with her family, take care of herself and her space (things that took much longer than average at that point in her life), and find her own alone time to decompress because she is a child that needs her solitude. None of that takes into account that I’m a single mom with two other children, one an infant. This information is important because 4 days a week and 4 hours of time in center an hour from my home meant me and my other children had to figure out our after school evening routine (6hours) in a car nowhere near home. I was seeking in home support and that was an option except they said my home wasn’t a safe place to provide therapy because the worker would have had to park across the street in a parking lot because the provider would have to cross the street (insert eyeroll about adults unable to safely cross a street- ffs my 4yearold can handle it)- I even offered to park across the street so they could park in my driveway and they acted horrified I’d cross the street with my children. There attitude suggests I live on a highway😂 I live on a two lanes (total not each side) double yellow line road in a small, 3 traffic light, two small shopping plaza town. The speed limit is 25, you can see 2/10th of a mile each way. Sorry for the rant- what they wanted to ask of our family was too much when what would have actually supported our family was denied for that reason. My daughter needed family and to get support in family because family is ultimately the best support she’s going to have for the rest of her life. I’m sorry again but there’s so much to be said.
I’m glad it has helped your family, I think that is a wonderful thing. That wasn’t my experience, it was going to separate our family and be harmful to my other children’s (and her’s honestly- that kid hates being in the car) well being.
Mom needs to look at the statistic of a non bio parent and sexual assault against those children.
Wow Mom was busted! If I was losing my kids or had them taken he would be the last person I would speak to.
I know this will sound crazy but wouldn't it be a great idea for the dad of the other two girls to take ALL THREE into their home? I know it's a lot to ask for the dad but that would be an advantageous solution.
All her children's fathers are registered sex offenders
He’s a sex offender also
Ugh! This world sucks sometimes. Wish the best for these girls
Why can't the 'good Dad have all of them> Has an option been explored to have him licsenced and become her caretaker? It makes no sense to me that they MUST be split.
Bio dad is a sex offender as well
@@mackg468 OH..... I had no idea, never mind. She sure picks them, huh. Termination all around is now my opinion. Sorry, not sorry.
So she sees red flags now but the SA of her children wasn’t a red flag 🙄
This mom……. she needs daily counseling/therapy. I go back and forth between despising her and feeling sorry for her.
If the Dad of the two girls was worth his weight in gold, he would take all three of these girls. If not, he would be a POS!
Has Mr.Henley not been asked to be the foster for Juniper.
Do you believe what the girls are saying her wellllll…. word salad 🥗
Ms. Hall, pink shirt mom, seems to not get that cps has the transcripts of the phone calls. Cps isnt asking questions they dont already know the answers too
So what if its summer. Mom is still talking to the abuser in her home. What if they overhear him or mo. Tries to get them to talk to him
Mom may be wrestling with it because if it’s true, how did SHE let this happen? Then the shame that goes along with the fact that it happened on her watch.
So if mr Huns key is so kind why doesn’t he offer to keep Juniper as well
He can't he's disqualified from any child that isn't his
He's a registered sex offender too
This mom just hasn’t been able to cut that apron string yet. That’s going to take some more time.
Ooooo, she is not believing them
When they can't find or figure out who the father is why don't they just do a 23and me on the child, t has to be much cheaper than all legal stuff they do to try to locate them
Won't help if he or any relatives haven't done the 23&me but that would be cool if they did. They use it to solve cold case murders all the time.
Why can’t the older girls dad take the younger sister
Wtf. Why are there entire schools that practice ABA? And why are there zero advocates speaking up?
Too many of the "advocates" are non autistic professionals who are not hearing the masses of actually autistic people who are expressing the damage of ABA principles
I don’t know what ABA is. Guess I’ll now found out.
best way to explain aba I'd say is not about helping autistic children cope with the world , but making them behave, via pretty bad negative reinforcement
@@cherveny that sounds dreadful. And definitely wouldn’t help.
@patscats2080 there's a reason many autistic people consider aba akin to torture
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I wonder if it’s an option for the older girls bio dad to also take in Juniper? A possible win-win? If not, it would be so unfair to all of the girls to be separated. I’d hate for the two abused girls to think they are being separated because of the abuse.
He’s a sex offender also. This woman is disgusting
Keaton, take Juniper please
I don't think he can.. there's something preventing visitation with her at his home.. he must have a history that disqualified him sadly because it seemed like he'd have been willing
He's a RSO
He's a registered sex offender also
Ok attorney - I understand the interrogation about her contact with her abuser, but don’t harass her about her sex life. As long as she doesn’t do it in front of the kids, all she needs to do is set boundaries with them. Judging her for spending the night with another man while the kids aren’t even in the house is just abusing her like her husband does. It’s over. Stop it.