Wild Court Moments #97 - Busted Karen!

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  • @tobychenier7105
    @tobychenier7105 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1036

    My Sons Father and I divorced 45 years ago. Our Son was 2. My X could call anytime for a visit or overnight. He was an equal as a parent. Once our Son learned to use the phone, he would call or Dad would call him. Next thing I knew, was Dad knocking on the door and my Son looking at me and said “oh yeah, my Dads coming.” My Son was free to move between both homes. Dad always made sure our Son was prepared and where he needed to be before school. We were always on the same page about his raising. We all share family events together. We decided very early on, that neither of us would ever want to be excluded. Much respect.

    • @cynthiatolman326
      @cynthiatolman326 ปีที่แล้ว +107

      You pick the right man to have a child with, and even when the relationship doesn't work out, your child still has great parents.

    • @soft_serve_666
      @soft_serve_666 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      I love hearing stories like this. It always amazes me when I see two parents with only their kid's best interests in mind. Setting aside their hurt feelings and focusing on what matters rather than petty grievances to get back at eachother. My parents divorced when I was still an infant and it was not at all amicable. What followed for the next 18 years was my parents playing tug-of-war with me. I can't begin to tell you the effect being the messenger between 2 angry adults had on my life up until now. People don't realize how their actions can profoundly effect their kids, for life. I have a hard time telling people "no" or setting boundaries. This people pleasing had led to being a doormat for men to take advantage of in almost all my romantic relationships. The mere thought of getting married and having children is so terrifying to me that it's never been close to being an option.
      Wow. Sorry for that rant. Thank you for being a good parent to your kid.

    • @gillowejr8393
      @gillowejr8393 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      As the child of divorce who was not able to have a relationship with my father until I was almost 30 due to my mother’s manipulation and interference, I have to say a heartfelt THANK YOU for what you and your ex did for your child. I can’t begin to tell you how much I would have valued that kind of co parenting so much rather than what I experienced. I hope your son appreciates how much his parents obviously love him to have been so willing to work together. It is scary how many people hate their ex more than they love their child. Thank you for making YOUR child the most important factor…not always easy I’m sure, but you clearly did an amazing job!

    • @rebeccatrenorden2914
      @rebeccatrenorden2914 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@soft_serve_666 5f

    • @suga1231
      @suga1231 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      That’s how it was for my ex husband and I. The kids was the priority!

  • @allrightspreserved4766
    @allrightspreserved4766 ปีที่แล้ว +503

    It’s Debbie Davis!! She’s the attorney that busted that dude in that viral video court zoom for being at the same house as the victim 🤣🤣 you’re a legend Debbie!!

    • @peggybaby0894
      @peggybaby0894 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      That’s one of the very first videos I saw that has sent me down the rabbit hole of court proceedings! That was insane!! ❤

    • @Macdiva216
      @Macdiva216 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      She’s a legend!

    • @SlimShaedyAlston
      @SlimShaedyAlston ปีที่แล้ว +6

      What video is that?

    • @mochs62512
      @mochs62512 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Oh man, thats her??? She was awesome!

    • @rachelpauley6843
      @rachelpauley6843 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Didn’t know that was her!!!! Loved that video

  • @jlandrum80able
    @jlandrum80able ปีที่แล้ว +163

    I want this judge to do an audiobook to help me sleep. He has me so mellow I’m not even that mad at my ex right now. 😂

    • @kourtneymelton1282
      @kourtneymelton1282 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I just love his demeanor

    • @JewelryNurse
      @JewelryNurse 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      lol

    • @lisaward60
      @lisaward60 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah so calming

    • @Grace-tc1lq
      @Grace-tc1lq 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@lisaward60I find it too calming. I keep zoning out. 😊

  • @guardianv5846
    @guardianv5846 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

    This judge is really good at talking without moving his mouth.

    • @lindalee1741
      @lindalee1741 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I went to comments to see if I was the only one who can't see the judge's mouth moving!😂

    • @KimJerome13
      @KimJerome13 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I bet his side hustle is ventriloquist 😅

  • @LegoAssassin098
    @LegoAssassin098 2 ปีที่แล้ว +265

    -After 8 years she still hasn't earned the access to unsupervised visits
    -Allegedly Major concerns by the supervisor about her conduct during those visits
    -Victim advocate involved
    -Lying to the court multiple times (in a way that is easily checked)
    -Complaining about time changes that she could have fixed
    -Failing to properly communicate
    -Asking for unsupervised visit in another state when she currently only have supervised visits
    -Allegedly skirting orders with grandma and calling incessantly
    -Baseless accusations of coaching and wanting unsupervised access (likely to coach him herself)
    She is painting a bad picture against her, and her own actions are the paintbrush.
    I'm happy that their son has one parent who seems down to earth and reasonable.
    She's likely going to be in for a rude awakening in a few years when the court starts deciding that the child is old enough to provide input into some of the courts decisions and puts more weight onto the child's own words.

    • @LawTalkWithMike
      @LawTalkWithMike  2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      👍

    • @andrewjvaughan
      @andrewjvaughan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      One thing about quiet, mild mannered judges... they listen and observe better than anyone. No way he's missing the signs.

    • @tommyhaukedalhansson2797
      @tommyhaukedalhansson2797 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@andrewjvaughan my father allways said : be awear of the silent guy , he will read you like a open book, if you press a issue, he will tell you everything you don’t want to know about yourself, found that to be true 80 % not like a argument you forget in 10 min, but you really revaluate your life...

    • @JoeyTinkRN
      @JoeyTinkRN 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      All amazing points! This case has me sick. I have 8 year old twins and I cannot fathom not doing everything within my power to be with them. It seems like all of this “court stuff” takes up too much of her precious “me” time.
      I’d never put myself in this position but if for some absolutely insane reason I ended up here I would be answering every call, email, letter, telegram, and carrier pigeon message as soon as it hit my eyes and I’d do whatever was asked of me. She needs to grow up or just leave her child & his dad alone. In a few short years, her son will have his own say as to whether or not he meets with his mother at all!!! So sad!! 💔

    • @janesmith4h
      @janesmith4h 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      👏 👏 👏 YES! Thank you for this. I helped my brother get custody of his twins, because their mother was a similar 😈.
      I really hate people that use their kids, or the courts for this trash. 😒

  • @nicoleaustin5563
    @nicoleaustin5563 2 ปีที่แล้ว +179

    The way she smirks the whole time she talks about not seeing her son seems very psychotic.

    • @thirdprince4028
      @thirdprince4028 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's not what the word psychotic means and misusing the word psychotic harms people who have psychotic disorders, like schizophrenia, schizoaffective disorder, brief psychotic disorder, postpartum psychosis, or who otherwise experience psychosis or take anti-psychotics.
      Happy Disability Pride Month.

    • @nicoleaustin5563
      @nicoleaustin5563 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@thirdprince4028 I am not misusing the word. Smirking and smiling like that while saying what she was saying appeared that she was not in the same reality we are. She was saying something that was sad and upsetting but smiling and smirking. So in my opinion she appeared as if she was psychotic. I have a son that has schizophrenia and when he has his episodes he does the same thing. So please don’t speak to me in such a condescending way when you really had no idea what I meant by that. You interpreted it incorrectly.

    • @karenneill9109
      @karenneill9109 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I agree, her facial expressions, voice and words are all saying different things, it’s very odd. I read that as disguised anger, there certainly something off.

    • @thirdprince4028
      @thirdprince4028 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@nicoleaustin5563 No, you're still using it incorrectly. Nothing about her behavior indicates psychosis. I would know, being someone with schizoaffective disorder and someone who takes the misuse of the word psychotic as a derogatory word pretty seriously because it directly negatively impacts my life and the life of people like me.

    • @dalerimoller272
      @dalerimoller272 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Nicole Austin
      Right? Very scary to see her smiling while saying her child is not in danger! If the mother only has 2 hr. supervised visits every other weekend it makes me wonder what’s going on with her.

  • @barbaramatthews9863
    @barbaramatthews9863 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    This is so sad. My parents divorced after 17yrs in 1978. Up until my dad pasted away 2011, neither parent EVER said anything bad abt the other. They admitted they had their problems but never drew us kids into. They stood together to raise us. All 3 of us kids had a mother and father. We were the lucky ones.❤

  • @lannieg1323
    @lannieg1323 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    I’m so glad that this kid’s dad is involved and looking out for his best interest.

    • @bend3rbot
      @bend3rbot 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Everyone needs one sane parent, at least! 😅

  • @christiewright1457
    @christiewright1457 2 ปีที่แล้ว +281

    Oh man. I’m a former cps/foster care worker from Michigan…and this woman is 100^ using custody motions as means of control over her ex… and her poor son is suffering from it.

    • @YahuahsChosen
      @YahuahsChosen ปีที่แล้ว +49

      cps stole my newborn on a "co-sleeping" concern only to return my son 3 months later as "child taken im error". 3 months bc the state kept asking for more time for discovery and it was during the holidays. Even though it was a mistake on CPS, I still had to pay the state 3 months of child support. The system is broken and tried to traffic my son.

    • @lilpinksliplee7310
      @lilpinksliplee7310 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      This woman is bat sh!t crazy. The fact that she says "whenever he asks me about the court case I just tell him he's too young" NO KID ASKS YOU ABOUT YOUR COURT CASE UNLESS YOU ARE TALKING TO THEM ABOUT IT. My kids never knew a doggone thing about what was going on EVER. I didn't date a other man until they were almost adults and their needs always came first. This woman is petty as can be.

    • @amberg4131
      @amberg4131 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Cps is just one of those hard type it of situations. Damned if you do damned if you don't. Ive seen a few court cases where cps agents wernt on time, this one case where the case worker was shut out of the house on a supervised visit where the mother went missing and the youngest child was a witness based off what he told the caseworker and investigation team during his Interview or perhaps it was the school teacher. They have instances where they are notifications from family and friends with grudges which they can report unanimously,there's the parents who wernt reported who eventually the kids died from their abuse and bodies hidden, there were kid removed for no apparent reasons that the parent or care giver knows. In the news this week I've seen a mother who left her baby in the tub seat to read a book to her other child,called 911 gave her sister's name and got arrested aswell as a mother and father who clearly have a drug problem left their child in a cage a playpen with zip ties and a gate ontop ,mother saying she has some illness and a bug was going thru the home, so dirty that the kid died from lack of care.There was a case where a mother of two children was scared to death of her ex husband. She told her friends and family he is going to kill her. Do you know that she fled from their country to Sydney to be safe and did you know that he (even though he had a prior record of something) he was able to have CPS order her back to the country and he kept calling he kept violating the orders In place. Do u know what happened? He murdered her. I can't imagine having to live knowing that if you did something she would have been alive. It's a tough job breaking up families but sometimes for the sake of the child it needs to be done.

    • @Jewelkraftscookies
      @Jewelkraftscookies ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@YahuahsChosen my daughter was taken for 6 months from a co sleeping accident.... I went through emotional hell.... Thankfully my daughter was so young she didn't remember.. How ever she's showing signs of abandonment issues. So I'm pretty sure it's effected her. Unbeknownst to her.

    • @neidhawk
      @neidhawk ปีที่แล้ว

      Fuck cps and fuck you if you worked for them. Such a broken system, you take kids from good parents and ignore the kids they actually need help! Nothing more than child traffickers

  • @SakkaraKirax
    @SakkaraKirax ปีที่แล้ว +58

    If she's doing things that are concerning during supervised visits, imagine how concerning her behaviour would be if allowed to visit unsupervised!

  • @andrewc.2952
    @andrewc.2952 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I think Karen is living her own Legally Blonde moment, if you ask her. Lol

  • @jamesrice4072
    @jamesrice4072 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I NEVER spoke one negative word about my childrens mother to them or in front of them. I always said "this is your mom, she loves you and you love her. And our divorce had nothing to do with you".

  • @littlescott6162
    @littlescott6162 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    You find this type of thing in family courts all across the country where one parent is trying to raise their child and co-parent while the other parent is only trying to fight and doesn’t seem to care about what’s in the child’s best interest.

    • @avathemis9878
      @avathemis9878 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’m in this situation now. 😥

    • @littlescott6162
      @littlescott6162 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@avathemis9878 if I could offer some advice I would say “keep doing what’s best for your child”. I know that’s not a new idea but even the best parents can get a little/lot tired of constantly losing to someone who we know isn’t doing what’s best for their child.

    • @EMILYHERRERA
      @EMILYHERRERA ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@avathemis9878 sorry you're going through this. This is a racket, and the children usually never win.

  • @Justaskme781
    @Justaskme781 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    I would definitely be afraid that she was not going to bring my child home. Being in another state that would be a big fight to get him back

    • @gleefulme9617
      @gleefulme9617 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The judge is NOT about to let the kid leave the state with her. Supervised visits are required of hed.

    • @brimarie256
      @brimarie256 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      She doesn’t want to be a mother for real or she would have done everything she could to get her child back without supervision. She wanted to parade the kid around as if she’s a good mother on the trip . It was more about not wanting dirty looks and questioning for still not having her kid.

  • @princesssmileyface91
    @princesssmileyface91 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    I love that the Ex husband, is staying silent, and letting this Karen dig her own grave, by not interrupting her lmao 😂

    • @shoosh222
      @shoosh222 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’m impressed that he doesn’t immediately answer questions directed to him, he lets his lawyer answer most everything.

    • @jrs329
      @jrs329 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He’s getting his monies worth!

    • @EagerFluffedcuck-wz2ro
      @EagerFluffedcuck-wz2ro ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He knows what kind of a nut he’s dealing with and seems in control of himself unlike his ex who could probably laugh at how she can cry on command. Psychotic 😮

    • @girlloveshemp642
      @girlloveshemp642 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He’s silent bc he has his attorney there speaking for him. She doesn’t have an attorney, so she has to be the one speaking.

    • @zerieth6620
      @zerieth6620 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I love that her actual name is Karen. Parents saw the future.

  • @gizmoenterprises3467
    @gizmoenterprises3467 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Carol up there is having a great conversation. I hope she's called up her bestie to spill the tea on this great case.

    • @notever_everytime5074
      @notever_everytime5074 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      For real! Carol with her fly nails 💅 and her gossip is all of us.

    • @mariamwalters8326
      @mariamwalters8326 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I was laughing at this 🤣🤣🤣

  • @lynnecamp3268
    @lynnecamp3268 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    It doesn't matter how hard he tries to be reasonable, she'll make sure nothing works.

    • @gracemckelvey5904
      @gracemckelvey5904 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Yup and blame him for not trying to work it out ..

  • @TheUluxian
    @TheUluxian 2 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    "But there's good things in the report, too."
    That's like the murderer saying "Yeah, I stabbed the guy 37 times, but it should be noted how well I washed my hands after."

    • @LawTalkWithMike
      @LawTalkWithMike  2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yes😂

    • @hannahreed2451
      @hannahreed2451 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lol 😆

    • @andrewphillips470
      @andrewphillips470 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I ask the court to recognise the excellent work I did removing my fingerprints from the crime scene

  • @angelacarter6593
    @angelacarter6593 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I love watching this mellow judge. He handles their garbage with such grace.

  • @mariyaa111
    @mariyaa111 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    She is SO used to being able to manipulate people into giving her what she wants, she finally found someone who she can’t control and doesn’t know what to do with herself!!!
    This Judge has the calmest temperament.. hearing him say, “What’s false is what you told me,” was hilarious!😂😂😂
    The most comical part of this entire case is that this delusional woman GENUINELY believed that she was going to represent herself… and have everything go her way!! She wanted to play attorney and she lost!😂😂😂

    • @bend3rbot
      @bend3rbot 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Yeah totally. Major MH issues around control, imposed thinking, fantastical thinking, and clearly behavioural issues. THE ONLY way to overcome a situation like this is consistent compliance and cooperative behaviours one would think!

    • @doctortimm3245
      @doctortimm3245 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      She's not used to being told no, and is very much a "do as I say, not as I do" person

    • @Grace-tc1lq
      @Grace-tc1lq 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think she’s also a pathological liar and they usually get away with it quite often. Some can’t believe that others lie so quickly and about things that can be proven wrong if they’re checked into but they do, they gamble and have no shame when they’re caught.

  • @Sirek6
    @Sirek6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    It’s kind of hilarious that the problem mother in this case is named Karen. 😂

    • @pigpink1971
      @pigpink1971 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Definitely would change my name.

    • @ChillHills
      @ChillHills 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@pigpink1971 I think the name matches her personality.
      If the shoe fits wear it.

  • @logy650
    @logy650 2 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    What a great way for her to prove that she’s an unfit mother without even involving the kids lmao

  • @MmeFlourBomb
    @MmeFlourBomb ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I'm only 26 minutes in but that judge is the most super chill guy I've ever seen.

  • @tracyd693
    @tracyd693 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I love the judge's demeanor. I'd love to be that relaxed.

  • @judeiz2203
    @judeiz2203 2 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    WOW 😳 this woman is 50 shades of Amber Heard 😂

  • @KuddlzH
    @KuddlzH 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I've watched this one 4 times now. I just keep hearing Debbie say "she's got 16 pieces of EVIDENCE, Mike!" So I have to watch it again! 🤣🤣🤣

  • @Vanessacurry84
    @Vanessacurry84 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Omg my parents put us through this crazy crap for YEARS it was so traumatic!!!

  • @whistleblower1826
    @whistleblower1826 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    AAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!! Karen said the word "supervisor" THAT COUNTS! 😂😂😂😂😂 I'm dying!!!!

  • @pricklypear218
    @pricklypear218 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I really am enjoying watching these videos. My parents had an 8 year custody battle and it was so toxic and stressful for us kids. These are so fascinating to me.

  • @goforthbmerry
    @goforthbmerry 2 ปีที่แล้ว +155

    Honestly never expect the sentence "the sheep knocked over my machiotto" to ever be spoken in my life time. Scratching it off the bucket list.

    • @mynx6969
      @mynx6969 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      😂🤣

    • @purplpen
      @purplpen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Inquiring minds want to know!

    • @jmh8697
      @jmh8697 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Objection! Hearsay! “My dog stepped on a bee.”

    • @donnarupert4926
      @donnarupert4926 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The cat 🐈 ate my homework 📄!!!!

    • @DebbieDavissaid
      @DebbieDavissaid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Glad to oblige! Speaking of which…time to go grab a Carmel macchiato from Steph’s Flour Shop. They only have a “pop up” shop every once in a while, so I need to take advantage when I can!

  • @stacys8729
    @stacys8729 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

    Holy cow - she must be a compulsive liar. She lied about so many things they could prove she was lying!! And she kept it going. She only gets 2 hours of supervised visits at a time and she wants to fly him to New Mexico!! Wow. Can't imagine what she is like when she isn't in court - what a horror to deal with. She is toxic - sending people to the kids school, talk about the case, harrass him - I 100% believe she did this.

  • @abesunderbite8218
    @abesunderbite8218 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I worked in the child welfare field for many years. Supervising agencies all have different policies regarding how they schedule and confirm visitation appointments. They tend to be even more defined and restricted if there's a history of lack of compliance and/or participation. So the agency requesting a written confirmation of intention to keep the visit, or else the visit is cancelled, is not uncommon - especially if she has a history of no-show. I have seen cases where the supervisor will not even retrieve the child until the visiting parent shows up, to avoid putting the child through the process of going into the agency for the visit, only to be disappointed.

  • @cakes_alot5782
    @cakes_alot5782 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I was a daycare provider for 18 yrs. I went through this with one of my clients parent and grandparent showing up at the school with a phone . It’s a mirror case . It was awful on the child .

  • @dkoch2
    @dkoch2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I feel like I'm watching an epic sequel to the Herd/Depp trial lol

  • @brooke6286
    @brooke6286 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The tone of this judge's voice is so chill that it reminds me of how you talk when you're trying to not wake up a sleeping baby. 😂

  • @24x7locks5
    @24x7locks5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    A child should never have a job, especially playing mediator between parents, or mom's spy!!!

  • @LeannSerao
    @LeannSerao 2 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    How bad does it have to be for a court to give a mother only 2 hours visitation..geez have a happy 4th, Mike ❤️

    • @fayezentner2244
      @fayezentner2244 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Supervised on top of that

    • @myjoyy4207
      @myjoyy4207 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Pretty bad

    • @jackiemarini3203
      @jackiemarini3203 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I keep thinking maybe drugs and abuse .It has to be very bad .Poor child 😢

    • @codygooch510
      @codygooch510 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Drug use history or currently most likely but even with that I’ve had family that has been proved to be a drug user and still got full custody.

    • @ellendickey4769
      @ellendickey4769 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Very bad. The worst.

  • @thudthud5423
    @thudthud5423 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I think the reason for the separation and his custody might be due to abusive behavior on her part. The clue is "Emily Victim Advocate" being present during the hearing.

    • @LawTalkWithMike
      @LawTalkWithMike  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      👍

    • @mynx6969
      @mynx6969 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I 👍

    • @ADKEMT
      @ADKEMT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And look at Emily’s face through the whole thing. It tells you everything you need to know.

    • @daphneorebaugh4015
      @daphneorebaugh4015 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ADKEMT her name actually isn't Emily. For some reason all the victim's advocates in this court have that. Maybe a protection/confidentiality thing? I have seen it a few times.

    • @angieroxx1006
      @angieroxx1006 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@daphneorebaugh4015 so “Emily” is working on behalf of the child?

  • @Carolyn-ff3fu
    @Carolyn-ff3fu 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I have said it before: Do you hate your ex more Han you love your children? 🤦‍♀️

  • @SuperCelliott
    @SuperCelliott ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I love how calm the judge is.

  • @MelanaC
    @MelanaC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I would literally walk over hot coals to abide by the courts visitation!
    I would be waiting OUTSIDE the building where I’m seeing my child ahead of time so as to not waste a SINGLE MOMENT with them!
    I am so glad that I’ve never ever had to deal with anything like this!

  • @michellemoreland3783
    @michellemoreland3783 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    So item to ALWAYS remember.... NEVER LIE TO A JUDGE.

    • @thehotmomprenuer
      @thehotmomprenuer 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Never lie on affidavits either😂😂

  • @troyonline688
    @troyonline688 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    And don't accept a ride from a stranger unless they offer you candy😂

  • @jburnett7071
    @jburnett7071 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    He is the most calming judge. The way he speaks would make me forget I was in court 😮

  • @JonniD
    @JonniD 2 ปีที่แล้ว +178

    Always love when Debbie provides insight. And, she'd make a very fair family court judge. 👍

    • @LawTalkWithMike
      @LawTalkWithMike  2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      She would be great but who would want the job😂

    • @1HonestAbe
      @1HonestAbe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@LawTalkWithMike I picked up on or made 2 points that I picked up on from Karens appearance. Description or details in the comments. One being I think Grandma was here in Court. Top right corner.

    • @LawTalkWithMike
      @LawTalkWithMike  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      👍

    • @pinktights747
      @pinktights747 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@LawTalkWithMike wow, just wow

    • @ifellicantgetup
      @ifellicantgetup ปีที่แล้ว +6

      What I like about Debbie is she would ALWAYS put the kids first and not put up with nonsense.

  • @hobbithubby5076
    @hobbithubby5076 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    11:01 Total Dad move by the judge. This man had kids that liked to play the “but mom said I could” card one too many times.

  • @deeprollingriver52
    @deeprollingriver52 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I wish Judge Ten Eyck could make a million dollars as a sleep therapist by reading War and Peace to patients

  • @susanengel-ix8bl
    @susanengel-ix8bl ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This lady, the mom?, She's just making stuff up and thinking the judge is going to fall for it!!hahaha

  • @kathiemitchell8586
    @kathiemitchell8586 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    In Texas he won’t be ordered to pay her if he has the kid. It’s ridiculous for her to even ask. And I work in family court in Texas

    • @Zoot_of_Anthrax
      @Zoot_of_Anthrax ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Confirmed. In texas only the NCPs income is considered and ncp will be ordered to pay 20% for one kid, all of insurance, and half of uncovered medical

  • @james-bryannaadams6928
    @james-bryannaadams6928 2 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    WOW! This case has been going on for EIGHT years!? She’s trying to bankrupt him in attorney fees or something. Shane is doing a great job keeping his cool…who wouldn’t want to smack her at this point.

    • @LegoAssassin098
      @LegoAssassin098 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      And the fact that after eight year, she still only has supervised visits is wild.
      Between that and having a victim advocate involved suggests that there was abuse on her part...and that she hasn't improved in any meaningful way.

    • @angelmercy5261
      @angelmercy5261 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shane is the attorney so what does he care? He’s getting money! Cameron is the father

    • @victoriadeyot9321
      @victoriadeyot9321 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I heard someone say once that the only person who profits from any legal action is the attorney.

    • @hannahreed2451
      @hannahreed2451 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@angelmercy5261 if he’s been the attorney for a while it’s possible he has negative emotions about her at this point. There are lawyers who will help you out depending on the situation. If the lawyer is a father himself that could be enough reason to hate this woman. He might be getting paid but after a while it’s not about the paycheck…it’s about this woman genuinely being a horrible person and putting the father..his client, through hell just because she can. Even the scummiest of lawyers would have an emotional reaction to this. Shane does an amazing job keeping this professional but you can still tell he can’t stand her lol. And he’s totally justified in that

    • @Sirek6
      @Sirek6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Sadly my divorce/custody stuff has dragged on for 12 YEARS with my ex taking me in and out of court periodically since 2011. Because my kids are now adults that have disabilities, it could drag on literally forever. I’ve done so much to try to keep the peace & mediate out of court. We also went through 7 YEARS of reunification therapy where my ex was finally dismissed from therapy without ever seeing the children once in 7 yrs for noncompliance. I feel for people who have crazy exs!

  • @invisible.fatman
    @invisible.fatman 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That's more effort than I put into painting my walls - good gravy. 💅

  • @deeb81
    @deeb81 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I love Shane Landers laughing everytime she opens her mouth 😂

  • @scottamo
    @scottamo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    This judge's demeanor is perfect for Family Court. I once worked in child protection/child welfare and this judge's personality is built for this type of court. Now, re: the Karen's case, I'd be interested to know the details of this case...back from initial divorce/custody circumstances. I wonder what her issues are that she has such limited custody. Also, who are these other people who didn't say anything the whole time?

    • @MHLegacy
      @MHLegacy ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My thoughts exactly. Family court can be very emotionally heated and one method of verbal de-escalation is to soften one's voice and lower your volume, which causes others to mirror your tone. This method is especially effective if you're in a position of authority, such as the judge.

    • @jaykay1053
      @jaykay1053 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MHLegacy As an elementary school teacher, if I noticed lots of energy when the kids returned from recess, I’d start whispering the lesson as they were coming in. It was like magic! And the kids got a huge kick out of it. They all automatically whispered when it was their turn to speak. It’s one of my favourite memories of ‘my kids’. They’re all still in my heart, deeply embedded, forever. I would have done the job for free (but don’t tell anyone). 🤫

  • @Tker1970
    @Tker1970 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    These fights are unreal. A guy I used to work with went through a divorce. His ex moved about three hours away so their settlement had an agreed child visitation handoff-they each had to drive 90 mins. She ended up moving back to the same town-but STILL made him drive to that pick up spot out of spite. He worked. She didn't. so it was much harder on him.

    • @LawTalkWithMike
      @LawTalkWithMike  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That is so petty

    • @kourtneymelton1282
      @kourtneymelton1282 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ew that's so gross. People that do that kind of nonsense are also hurting their kids.

  • @beckyd712
    @beckyd712 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    *I don't care how awful your ex is/was, Be Kind when speaking of them to your child; that is your child's other parent.*

  • @the1only467
    @the1only467 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I don’t know who irritated me more, the Karen lying constantly or this ladies phone cutting out every 5 minutes and Mike having stop and get her to fix the phone.

    • @BabyKush420
      @BabyKush420 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I was super annoyed by the phone cutting out and her constantly picking it up and putting it down very distracting lol

    • @megmeyer7563
      @megmeyer7563 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Yes, I agree and the host interrupting the flow of the case to talk is annoying. I skip over when the host start talking

  • @genroc2005
    @genroc2005 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The visitation schedule is set, but, each visit she MUST confirm she will be there, that is what she is refusing to accept..

  • @kcindc5539
    @kcindc5539 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    It amazes me how people think that notarizing a document somehow guarantees the veracity of the content and therefore admissible as irrefutable evidence…WRONG. The only Thant that notarizing does is indicate the identity of the person either central to or submitting the document has been cross-checked, and that the document was signed by that confirmed individual in the presence of the Notary. That’s it. That’s all it does.

    • @cdrone4066
      @cdrone4066 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Notarizing just verifies the signature, not the contents. An affirmation or affidavit is verifying the contents.

    • @emma2370
      @emma2370 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Exactly. I’ve had to get things notarized after my spouse died and they made it very clear every time that they are validating only the signature.

  • @chuckydall9250
    @chuckydall9250 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I've never been into these longer videos but I have to say I'm really enjoying your channel you don't cut the video off everything two seconds with nonsense!! Very well done!!

  • @24x7locks5
    @24x7locks5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Debbie Davis, Ultimate Attorney...
    Mike, Would you do this voluntarily?
    Debbie, Well, for pay, obviously. Lol

  • @ann-retired
    @ann-retired ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thanks Mike! Hanging with you is awesome, fun, and educational. Love your clever wit and humor.

  • @Jennylouise87
    @Jennylouise87 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    The fact that she weirdly smi3kes and looks away from the screen everytime she lies is such a give away. And who does she think the judge is going to believe? Her, who's already lied to the judge about another JUDGE and has supervised visits only? Or the father who has custody of the kids, a lawyer and is not smiling weirdly at inappropriate times. Major Amber Heard vibes going on.

    • @OkayImLisa
      @OkayImLisa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's exactly what I was thinking. 👏

  • @TSchwanger
    @TSchwanger หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The judge moonlights as a ventriloquist.

    • @waitwhat1029
      @waitwhat1029 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That sounds painful. Oh wait, you mean as the human part of the act. Gotcha. He could pull off the wooden guy's part though. Just saying.

    • @TSchwanger
      @TSchwanger 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@waitwhat1029 lol

  • @gillianevans8291
    @gillianevans8291 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Why is she smiling all the time? She sees her kid for two supervised visits. She is a complete control freak, trying to bankrupt dad.

  • @alalmquist9423
    @alalmquist9423 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Mello? i think this judge is a advertisement for PROZAC.

  • @mellvee
    @mellvee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    If someone says "Affidavids", they should automatically lose. My favorite is "Afterdavids", but it's equally irritating.

  • @Jellyfish2022
    @Jellyfish2022 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This Judge 😂
    "The whispering Ventriloquist"

  • @rebeccabrown1951
    @rebeccabrown1951 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is why the case needs one judge that hears all proceedings until it actually is final or is appealed. Numerous judges hearing everything equals bizarre results.

  • @coladict
    @coladict 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Around the 20th minute I'm getting a very strong and repeatedly affirmed feeling that this "trip with grandma" is her actually planning to take the kid and run. I don't even think she's fully aware that's what she's planning. It's like the guy from Falling Down. He didn't know his plan is to find his family, kill them and kill himself, but that was his plan.

  • @Breezy-bv9te
    @Breezy-bv9te 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This case is just Shameful! I feel so bad for the kid who is in the middle of this. I can't believe a mother would make this situation so difficult. She is losing valuable time with her child by playing these games. No one is suffering more than the son in question. Just Shameful!! Mike, give Oscar a little "Pat" for me, please. 😃

  • @vincearini1191
    @vincearini1191 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    And then there was the macchiato incident, and they all turned against me 🤣

  • @troyonline688
    @troyonline688 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I would like to watch that judge read wrap lyrics...he would be hilarious😂

  • @SnuffitLabs
    @SnuffitLabs ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Everyone considering marriage needs to watch this video and get the "Are you really really sure?" lecture. Would cut divorce rates by half.

  • @seqranger1
    @seqranger1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Im an industrial engineer undergrad and i have a 25 min drive to my uni every day.. I spend every drive listening to zoom court, specifically judge middleton, its good to see debbie on here. I am always pleased to see how rational the judges orders are and how reasonable debbie is considering the defendents and peoples positions. Also enjoy your show mike but i sometimes have to skip episodes because ive already seen it. Thanks for the content!

    • @LawTalkWithMike
      @LawTalkWithMike  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank You

    • @cricketcrigler
      @cricketcrigler 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I hear you! I’m not an attorney (used to be a GAL) or anything, but I love watching/hearing the content of Mike’s Law Talk. The main point … hire an attorney!!! AND don’t lie to your attorney. More important … don’t lie to the Judge! Sigh

  • @user-zl7ec2lg6e
    @user-zl7ec2lg6e 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can you imagine Judge Drew at a pro football game? lol. I think not! !!!😂😂😂😂😂

  • @ktkat23
    @ktkat23 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This crazy lunatic .. straight up lied to a judge about what another judge ruled on! This woman is insane to think she can get away with HER crap! This father is trying so hard with a woman who is a complete narcissist! As an adult myself, the last thing I would do is try to pull one over on a judge! Definition of a narcissist! It's just sad to have kids in the middle of this drama! I'm glad this judge sees right through her!

  • @MR1964HJM
    @MR1964HJM 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My imaginary witnesses are on standby in my head and the voices in my head are ready to testify.😏

  • @Marnarose4433
    @Marnarose4433 2 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Damn I can’t imagine having to deal with her on a daily basis! I feel sorry for the dad and the child!

  • @rolanddensonjr2464
    @rolanddensonjr2464 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Your channel is amazing. I am binge watching these and I can't stop. Great job.

  • @lisaward60
    @lisaward60 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Her lawyer is on the phone whole time,lol

  • @1507421
    @1507421 2 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    Mike, you and Debbie together really make these entertaining + explaining a lot of things I would not Know. Thanks!

    • @LawTalkWithMike
      @LawTalkWithMike  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Awww thank you 😊

    • @atlasshrugged583
      @atlasshrugged583 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Debbie is a young girl's mentor-She is what we, as women, should aspire to. Family, Grace and Style. Hard trio to find

    • @janewaterfield648
      @janewaterfield648 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How is Mickey the 🐐 goat.
      My friend here in UK breeds miniature goats. So adorable.

    • @DebbieDavissaid
      @DebbieDavissaid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@atlasshrugged583 you are so sweet! Thank you!

    • @DebbieDavissaid
      @DebbieDavissaid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@janewaterfield648 he’s doing wonderful! Adorable as ever.

  • @hannahreed2451
    @hannahreed2451 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    She’s insane! I mean does she even process what is actually going on right now??
    It takes A LOT for a mother to lose custody and still 8 years later still stuck with supervised visits. She had to of done something horrible and really put her child in danger 😳
    Poor kid. Thank God his dad seems to actually be an adult. I hope their son is able to recover from all their trauma that his mother has put him through…

    • @xcrockery8080
      @xcrockery8080 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think she's depressed and backed into a corner.
      Her recent job history isn't stable.
      At a guess I'd say she recently crashed her car DUI with the child with her.
      I feel for her, actually.

    • @dreamingfool2
      @dreamingfool2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@xcrockery8080 I wouldn't. She's dragging her child into interviews, evaluations, etc over and over again not considering his feelings. Her current situation may not be ideal but she made her bed and needs to bite her tongue and just go with it, improve her career and mental health and do her scheduled visits, save up for her own lawyer. That will endear the court to her situation and she'd be able to finally get the visitation adjusted to a more reasonable time and unsupervised.

    • @farmerchick3040
      @farmerchick3040 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@X Crockery you feel for her but not the child she abused and endangered?

    • @oenrn
      @oenrn 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "she crashed her car DUI with her child with her"
      "I feel for her"
      How you can unironically write those 2 sentences back to back is beyond me!

    • @christinalovelace1792
      @christinalovelace1792 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@farmerchick3040l.😊

  • @davidvigeant7542
    @davidvigeant7542 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Waiting for Dana Carvey to pop out and yell , "Turtle!"

  • @sawyerthestarling
    @sawyerthestarling ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I bet that judge is a total freak in the sheets. There has to be something deviant about a person with that flat of a demeanor or personality. It's either that or he's a potential serial killer. Maybe both and he could get away with it too because who would ever suspect or believe it. I've heard of stranger things. He's so calm and soft spoken that he sets off an alarm within me. He has to burn it off somehow with something completely opposite. He probably trains falcons or something super cool 🤣

  • @Racingirl911
    @Racingirl911 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The stars are all aligned because we have an actual KAREN acting like a Karen!! LOL!!!

  • @cg3383
    @cg3383 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I thought Deb was calling her a “Karen “ then realized her name was Karen lol

  • @candypowell4334
    @candypowell4334 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    She sure is a vindictive person. He is lucky he dumped her. What a bad mother.

  • @SilverLadyTarot
    @SilverLadyTarot 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    After the fact watcher here and student of law. Love you Mike & love Debbie Davis! The two of you together with this Karen/“Karen” was magic! Keep up the great work!

    • @megmeyer7563
      @megmeyer7563 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      No, they drive me crazy and interrupt the case just to hear themselves talk.

  • @Richard-Freeman
    @Richard-Freeman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The narcissism is strong with this one. Perhaps even some APD. Especially if child abuse is involved.

  • @amberg4131
    @amberg4131 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Judge Drews calm voice always makes me so relaxed it's like the tingles you get from listening to ASMR

    • @pigpink1971
      @pigpink1971 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Judge reminds me of the HR guy from The Office.

    • @KittyKimono
      @KittyKimono 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He should read some books on audible

  • @amisoamboy
    @amisoamboy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The lady with the phone to her ear the whole time is driving me nuts lol

    • @Weslee262
      @Weslee262 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same! Who is she talking too???

  • @maryschierberl3017
    @maryschierberl3017 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    She seems like a pathological liar!! It's scary how calm she is as she tells her lies. 😏

  • @mish130
    @mish130 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    "I earn $3,000 a month before tax [and need an Attorney paid for by everyone else]"
    I love how Shane Landers just sits back chilling thinking "I just need to stay quiet, and I win". I love his laughter. Legend Lawyer.
    David Tros looks like a member of "The Cure" band in a suit :P

    • @CN45475
      @CN45475 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      MISH!! I miss seeing you in Judge Kim's stream!!!

    • @kimcrawford5247
      @kimcrawford5247 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi Mish! I miss seeing you too! Take care and see you around!

    • @mish130
      @mish130 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kimcrawford5247 G'day Kim. Drop me an email :)

    • @LoudLilDucky
      @LoudLilDucky 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Miss Judge Kim’s court crew as well

    • @hauntedshadowslegacy2826
      @hauntedshadowslegacy2826 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm thinkin' the Karen didn't expect this judge to call her bluff and check the record for himself. Meanwhile, the lawyer knew there was a record that would align with his recollection and expose the Karen's lies.

  • @andrewjvaughan
    @andrewjvaughan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love that every Pro Se litigant solidly on the Dunning-Krueger graph starts their argument with "I object." It's really nice, in a way, it tells me they're a moron from the first two words.

  • @judylinsky7852
    @judylinsky7852 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The judges lips don’t even move haha

  • @Cg-gu7kj
    @Cg-gu7kj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Gotta love Debbie. You go girl. I love that you wear regular ppl clothes on here and don’t have a need to be all gussied up.
    Mike, you’re so cute getting such a kick out of this.

    • @DebbieDavissaid
      @DebbieDavissaid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Didn’t get a chance to do hair or makeup or clothes…Mike sent me a text as I was getting to my friend’s to get my nails done. We had been out on the lake all day! I’ve gotten pretty lax about what I look like on the interwebs 🤣

    • @Cg-gu7kj
      @Cg-gu7kj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@DebbieDavissaid you’re a very busy woman with a lot on your plate. You looked beautiful, as always! You are a great role model for young women.

  • @bloodyneptune
    @bloodyneptune 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Its wild to me that she keeps lying about things she knows they can easily prove. She knows he can ask the other judge, she knows that email chain exists and what they say, she _definitely_ knows the judge remembers what he _just said._ But she keeps doubling down on her lies even after its proven _how_ does she think thats going to work??
    Maybe she's just so used to doing that and people giving in to make her shut up, and she can't figure out that that isn't going to work in court on a judge

    • @LawTalkWithMike
      @LawTalkWithMike  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yes

    • @Richard-Freeman
      @Richard-Freeman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's where narcissism and psychopathy come in. They often genuinely believe that they are smarter than everyone.

    • @craigtucker1290
      @craigtucker1290 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Sadly, this is becoming more common with people these days, they see facts and reality conforming to their beliefs and views rather than what they are.

    • @Bethany0420
      @Bethany0420 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      She's a pathological liar

    • @hythekent
      @hythekent 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Medicated. She must be with that demeanour. But yes also pathological

  • @lisasteigerwald6033
    @lisasteigerwald6033 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Interesting how she alleges that “he canceled all July visits” and then says “I had no idea this weekend was canceled” 🤔

  • @samueladams1775
    @samueladams1775 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had to stop the video and drink some strong coffee ☕️. The judge's calm voice was making me sleepy like I was being sedated. That is the most calm and mellow judge I have ever seen.

  • @andrewjvaughan
    @andrewjvaughan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Is it just me... or did she literally "misinterpret" literally every communication that was discussed in this call?