Insta360 Ace Pro... It's a whole different thing
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You can make the gopro footage better on manual settings with higher shutter speed. Action 4 does the same on very low light, also in that manually setting higher shutter speed resolves the issue. Though if the frame is too dark then the stabilization will break again. Still the Ace Pro on automode is doing superb job and definitely earns top stars for that performance.
@@kaltask1 you’re gonna get more noise if you raise the shutter speed. 1/1.3 inch sensors allow for less noise via less ISO if shutter and aperture are the same. You raise the shutter, you have to raise the ISO.
@@GnarlyBearMTB true and as stated if the image is too noisy or dark the stabilization will break again. But this footage could maybe had been fixed as in fix the stabilization with manual settings. You can denoise the footage after. not the best but I would do that if GH12 or OA4 had that issue while riding murky woods.
@@kaltask1 Gotcha you’re saying it would have been more “fair” stabilization-wise if the shutters were the same? That makes sense to me
@@GnarlyBearMTB well it's not very usable footage if the stabilization is not able to kick in. The shutter would not be the same on both camera, in Gopro manually setting faster shutter it could have more and better images to adjust the image stabilization. Now the shutter is too long and image is bouncing around and all it has to adjust the stabilization is blurry images. Like taking a long exposure image and kicking the camera while you are at it. This is also why if the image is too noisy, eventually that can also break the stabilization. If the whole thing was "auto mode" battle sure Ace wins hands down and I am not saying otherwise. Even if gopro was set to manual mode, Ace would win. But if you have GP12 or Action 4 and have footage like that, it's good to know that there are options to combat that and not always just trust "auto" mode.
I have the GoPro 12 Black and it’s way more stable than what was shown there. You have other videos saying how to set them up perfectly for biking. Perhaps auto mode is bad.
100% Agreed = this video made it look like the GoPro 12 is shit, definitly something wrong with this video, sorry 👎
Yes,it looks like stabilization is turned off lol .
I'll start by saying, I can't stand my fkn GoPro 10 black, it's fkn unreliable, over heats to damn quick and in cool weather to spite me. But the GoPros are the clearest and most stable of all action cams. The only time you get something as shotty as what was shown by this knuckle head is when you change some specific setting combined with stabilization. For the life of my I cannot remember what it was, if it was the frames per second or what have you, but the hardcore editors that work with GoPro know this as they all mention it. Given, low light sucks, but the settings here were modified.
@TechieTard go pro used to be, they had the action cam market closed off where as now I don't think they top it at all, these results are iffy but the insta is the better action cam atm. Gopro need this competition to actually up their game, specially their function in less light as its dog shit at that
The stability test was deliberately done in low light settings to show the difference between the two cameras. In order to compensate for the low light the cameras have to lower the shutter speed, which is impacting the stabilization quality of the GoPro. Since the Ace Pro has a bigger sensor, more light can be let in without having to drop the shutter speed, hence the stabilization also looks better. In daylight, you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference between the two cameras.
Finally something fresh and not a tiny incremental update over the competition. Just found out they even do Garmin overlays on your videos! No need to struggle with VIRB Editor. Would love to see that in action.
Garmin overlays?!?!?
Does their app allow to edit long videos or is it like GoPro where the only way to get overlays natively is to have stupidly short videos.
You have to buy their remote control to have GPS data with your videos. It's like the size of a watch face that you either wear around your wrist or attach to your bars. They can do low light video, but don't include a GPS radio? Guessing battery life will already be suspect enough with that processor and AI computation. Noticed NO ONE has mentioned ANYTHING about it. I'd stay away for now.
@@BIIIKESCan't you use data from your Garmin watches for the overlay?
Thanks for making these videos Ryan! They’re super informative. I just broke 2 of my ribs on a ride tonight. Hope your recovery is going well!
big upgrades like this are great for competition, Gopro will 100% respond and every year these cameras keep getting better. Cant wait to see where these things are in another 5 years.
Yeah GoPro will respond going bankrupt probably
All the cool stuff it can do means all the more stuff that can break, can cause you to miss a shot, I will wait for the 6-month reviews
Sad to say, GoPro is getting more irrelevant by the years...
The GoPro Hero 7 Black had a low light option which worked fairly well.
Did GoPro improve on this? Nah, because GoPro is no longer interested in creating an action camera, they want a vlogging camera that be can be on a nice, bright sunny day, but not too warm.
DJI and Insta are creating action cameras with low light capabilities, their making GoPro look predestination.
Will GoPro respond to DJI and Insta?
Nah, they're too busy appealing to mom baking pizza in her backyard pizza oven.
Fantastic review.
I feel like this is the first time I've seen an action camera perform the way I expect. Time to sell the old stuff!
GoPro has a tough job next year especially lowlights 😹
Gopro sucks and is overpriced.
I bought the GoPro 12 with Max lens mod 2.0 yesterday anyway after days of watching comparisons since the field of view, especially vertically is still the best even without max lens… and that is important for POV with MTB … all the new insta360 Ace Pro „reviews“ are just focusing on 8k, lowlight, digital zoom …but that is only a part of the picture … I do not want to zoom in additionally when MTB POV especially not with the smaller FOV … just my opinion
This is for the better for the action camera market. Competition drives innovations. GoPro monopolized the market for a decade, and their cameras still heat up and freeze even when just recording on normal conditions.
they could have than that like since 10
they are overpriced too..
at this rate GP is gonna go the Nokia way or the Blackberry way, they did not innovate quick enough.
Really excited about this clarity zoom feature, finally can capture from time to time detailed close-ups with an action cam.
Love your vids. As a photographer myself, this is a huge leap in action cameras!
Your studio audio is crazy good. Any advice on getting better studio audio?
Man, this new 360 cam makes bumbling down the trails look so good! Im getting one.
DJI is still better than the Insta360…you can remove the lens and does a lot better in low light. The GoPro is 💩 and he knows it that’s why he chose the GoPro to compare against
I see what you did there 😂
Looking forward to seeing it ALL posted on TH-cam!
@@loamchasers removable lens is over-rated. Slap a protection glass on top of the lens and even if you hit it it will break the protection not the lens!
Are you saying the Gopro footage around 10:30 is all the best you know to do with a Gopro? Maybe you should have another 2-hour call, but this time with the Gopro team so they show you how to properly configure the camera.
The MTB test was very compelling. I evaluate all action cameras under their most challenging useage application. Low light, highlight recovery, auto ISO, exposure, color balance, stabilization, ease of use, reliability and how the video image holds up in color grading. As a pro videographer, I’ve had a number of different GoPros since Hero 2, currently using a Hero 10 (which I use infrequently). I swear I’ve always had so many issues using the GoPro’s. They’re always switching modes, recording/not recording unintentionally, constant issues connecting/reconnecting wireless remote, batteries not seating/charging properly in that stupid 2-battery charger, difficult touchscreen/menus, poor auto-ISO, exposure and color balance mgmt, etc, etc. Then there’s the super wide-angle lens I never really liked even though I often use wide angle lenses with other cameras. Only the most recent generation GoPro’s were of ANY use as an outward-facing camera (they were primarily selfie cameras until Hero 9). I’m usually only happy with GoPro footage when it’s on a gimbal. Contrastingly, my DJI drones and Pocket 2/3 always impress me and get WAY more use than GoPro’s, not to mention DJI’s constant innovation, variety in product lines, new releases, firmware upgrades, etc. The Mavic 2 Pro was so good, I got nearly 4 years out of it before upgrading. Now, this Insta360 Ace Pro looks considerably better than their other models, which, due to the poor image quality, I’ve never thought had a place in a professional edit, except maybe a D-camera novelty shot. Of course, it was more suited to some applications than most… i.e., a wingsuit or BASE jump. As I’ve never used an Insta360 product, I don’t know how easy and reliable they are to use, but the Leica lens, large sensor and superior image stabilization is very compelling. My more recent activities… WW kayaking, MTB and off-roading necessitates ease of use and reliability as I can’t be constantly f#
GP is in deep trouble if they don't start to innovate rather then rely on past glory.
@@monipenny408 You said it. Complacency always bites you in the end. Just ask Intel, Qualcomm, Hasselblad, etc.
I got an X3 after seeing Vancanmtb's videos look so good, and you can get a better idea of steepness. Instacam definitely taking over the action cam space with all these killer cameras
Cool. Video looks way better. Thanks for the technical explanation on the sensor
love the video and disclosure. very much enjoy hearing some of the tech under the hood. also stoked that Insta360 is stepping up as a huge player in this space!
I literally was just shopping for a GoPro for myself but, after seeing this clip I am now purchasing this Insta360 without hesitation! Thanks for the video! HUGE help!
Do some more research don't base your decision on this video, is super biased and just an advert for this camera which you've fallen for. It could very well be the right camera for you but don't use this video as a decision maker.
Your low light side by side comparisons are SO amazing. I'm sold on this for my planned MTB trip through the Colorado Trail in 2024.
I gotta call bullshit on this. I have never seen a go pro shake as bad as this footage. I shoot with a chest mount on a go pro and I have never never seen a video that looks that bad. All I want to know is does it reduce the go pro effect.
Best opening 8 second sof any YT videos I’ve seen lately. 😂😂 spot on mate!
Great review! Seems like a great camera! Hope this pushes future action cameras to improve!
This looks super adaptable for diverse shooting conditions to about my outdoor activities. Can't wait to get one!!
Holy shit! Finally someone who knows technical stuff doing review of action cam! You explaining sensor readout, dynamic range and pixel binning in such a way that makes it very easy to follow is amazing! Liked and subscribed!
Nice! Maybe in a few months I will "spring" for this camera! Keep up the great videos!
I just bought the Hero 12. I'm still happy with my purchase even after seeing what this new Ace Pro can do, but damn...that low light footage looks amazing. Also, the menu speed is amazing...finally an action cam that feels as responsive as a phone! I always thought GoPro painted themselves into a corner designing an using their own chip. It was good when the G1 first came out but now it kind of feels like they've run out of energy/money to keep developing their own silicon. They've had the G2 in their cams for YEARS and it shows...just navigating the menu is like using a smart phone from 10 years ago!
Hero 12 looks better on actual use on the trails. you made a good decision! The Ace Pro looks too digital and choppy.
Yeah, exactly! That low light GoPro footage was really shaky but I still preferred it over Ace Pro cause it looked so artificial and the contrast was way too high.
This is awesome! I’ve been experimenting a little with using lights to help my 360 one r in lower light. It seems to help but this is way better
Man this was such a good review. Easy to watch the entire thing. No fluff just value
Well dang... wish I'd known abuot this. I bought the 12 the day it came out. Hmm. That stabilization comparison was pretty amazing, and I love the way it does HDR. Wow. Thanks!
This is good. Gopro in the dark reminds me of my first cameras, the early gopros and various knock- offs. They would suck like that even in good conditions. I am happy for the competition and the tech, it got a loooong way!
Action cams in the dark don't make as much sense anyway, Insta is better but still sucks.
Every camera sucks in the dark even my PRO camera that cost more then you bike, gear and action camera combined…sucks in the dark. It’s just that some suck more then others and some people are sponsored by those whose footage looks better 😂
@@MD-gk4uh I am not talking about pitch dark, but my overcast forests turned into blurry mess on my gopros and I really welcome companies taking those scenarios into consideration. Might wake one more generation, just in case ;)
James, the hero we did not know we needed! During your side to side comparisons outside, the sound seemed much better with the Insta over the GP, were you using a Mic with the insta or were they both just the native mics?
Those were the built-in mics for both cameras. I was quite impressed with the Ace Pro's audio!
Agree with this, the Ace audio seems better than the Gopro
The dynamic range and vibrant colors make the footage come alive, truly impressed by the level of innovation that insta360 brings with the ace pro.
Sure is clearer but I think the GoPro had considerably better colors in all these tests. The AcePro seems to have quite bad white balance and it had a noticeable blue/green tint which kinda ruins the other improvements.
Great review! Insta have brought some nice features to the party!
Cheers, mate.... I'm about to buy a new action camera and this video has come at precisely the right time.
Super impressive spec and results, great review bud !!
insane!!! I don't do extreme sports but I hike regularly and this would be awesome for me!
Show the stabilization settings used for the GoPro in the side-by-side comparo.
Wondering the same!
No that is not good looking for insta then. Unfair comparison is he doing.
PureVideo killing it!! Low light shooting looks waaaay better than my old Gopro 😬
Loved the video. Will probably purchase the Ace Pro soon. I haven't been able to find the video though that you said you were going to make at the end of this video about best settings and all. As I will be new to action camera, I was hoping that I might get some good pointers to get my started with having a bit of fun with the Ace Pro. Hope to see it soon.
Hope Ace Pro's Active HDR fixes stabilization issues I've had on other action cameras, but keeps that image quality. Time will tell!
I'm gopro hero 7 black user, and I'm pretty happy with it. If something is newer I believe it exceed my expectations.
Finally a really good review from someone who knows about videography and photography
Two questions:
1. Did you look into heating issues at 4k30FPS? Comparison between HERO12/Action 4?
2. Do you think the production units will eventually go back to replaceable lens covers? I'm reading that some of the pre-production units have replaceable lens covers and some do not.
Appreciate the video and I think those two things will be a show stopper for some.
saw other reviewer few days ago said no overheating issue even for 4K30fps
I've never had overheating issues with the Gopro as long as you're moving (I ride motorbikes) and not stationary then there are no issues even on hot summer days.
@@NCER999nah that’s not accurate I ride as well and it’s not that simple. I’ve had the 9 10 & 11 overheat. 10 was the worst offender in the 6 months after launch. But all still do it. 9 is the best about it.
@@Fee.1 only time I ever notice heat is if I leave the gopro on by accident when not moving, only hot to touch, never had a shutdown from heat. 10 was more noticeable as I jumped from the 8. I've had the 11 and now 12 and don't really notice heat at all. I'm in QLD in Australia, so we get some hot days!
I have a couple of the insta360 cameras and one thing no one mentions is support after you buy it. If you need to have the camera replaced it will take about a month as it needs to be sent in and then they ship you a replacement from China. I have had to have a my camera replaced a couple of times and waiting a month to get it, was pretty disappointing. Also support is based out of China so it takes a day or two of back in forth to just get the process going.
For me, who usually rides an electric bike in the city at night, I doubt how good the ace pro will be. To secure shutter speed that does not cause warbling during vibration correction, a very fluffy suspension seat post needed. However, it also offers footage without motion blur. it is questionable that ace does not support 10bit.
Thank you and great to see the features of the Insta360 Ace Pro and I would like to see a true comparison with the GoPro Hero 12 & DJI Osmo Action 4 cameras when you have a chance. One thing that wasn't mentioned was the GoPro 11 8:7 sensor. This sensor will allow for better cropping for all 3 video platforms: TH-cam 16:9, Instagram 4:3 and TikTok 9:16 aspect ratios. I think the DJI and Insta360 are only good for 16:9 videos, so depending on what platform you are going to upload your videos there is are choices for the best cameras. Also, there is a trade-off with the 8:7 GoPro aspect ratio and that is low-light sensitivity, so if you record in low light then the DJI or Inta360 will be better.
I usually shoot in daytime for mountain biking and skiing so i bought the GoPro Hero 11 for being able to adjust the aspect ratio upon export. One last thing about the 8:7 GoPro sensor is that if you have shot in 16:9 and either had the camera pointed to low or too high missing the correct POV, the 8:7 captures more vertically. So you can adjust the export either up or down to compensate for an imperfect camera recording position.
you nailed it Loam Ranger! My NoPro 12 feels like a NoPro 9 on steroids. The Action 4 is impressive and still love it, but this AcePro is something else. Great vid and excellent review with facts.
Best review so far. Thanks!!!
Great camera, love the competition.
Great video. `did notice quite a lot of poor video compression on those mountain bike clips , see it on the sky at around 7mins, what caused that do you think? or is it TH-cam?
I just got served an ad for this on IG, so I came here to search for a review. And guess what greeted me? Ha! Algo FTW. Anyway, thanks for doing a nerdier dive with the scopes and pixel binning. And the fact they can basically run Neat Video in real time pre-encoding is simply amazing.
looks like the gopro has far more motion blur frame by frame during this test indicating it could have been maybe set to an automatically lower iso or shutter speed by default in which case the stabilization would have been inferior to the insta in the comparison. If you look frame by frame at 1/4 playback its very evident. It would be useful to see both cameras manually set to the same iso and shutter speed and ran on the trail in the same light condition.
When you have Leica involved you know it’s going to be good 👌🏼
Superb - and really well produced.
Seen a fair few videos on this new camera, enjoyed your informative talk about the specs, I love my insta 360 x3 for the framing aspect in Water-sports and it’s been rock solid with no crashes or overheating and I use in a protective dive case and will not use without any protection as the lens are very vulnerable. so this new camera looks fantastic and beats Go pro and DJI for the quality coming out of and the low light performance is going to make this camera a huge winner, finally might be tempted to upgrade from my go pro 7 which I have to say has always worked perfectly, and love the flip out screen. I hope they bring out a replaceable camera lens like go pro or can add a protective lens cover or case 🤔🤔🤔🤔 Does this have gps, can not believe go pro took it away on 12 model as should have made an option to just turn it on or off, enjoyed watching and new subscriber 🙃🙃🙃😎😎😎😎
Wow the reduced motion blur on the insta 360 is amazing.
Nice Oso :) - broke a few ribs riding mine as well !
This new camera looks insane...Just ordered mine!
Seriously impressive
Great review, nice to see some honest points. How are you like this a week later?
Great video as always!
wow that new camera is sweet also about pink bike i would rather watch anything you produce keep it up but your new camera review is so informative i want one so bad now take care and thanks
what settings did you have for the go pro during that downhlll section? I've watched tons of GP biking footage that pretty much locked down when using the higher end stabilizer settings...
You had me at "when you go to the scopes".
Seems like a game changer, I'm quite a bit worry than a chin mount with the Ace would give the same FOV as the Gopro with Boost mode on (which is too narrow imo) Thanks for the video brother
Have you seen the osmo action 4 FOV, that will work perfectly for you
Yeah it seems good but audio and video quality is still not on par with Gopro except in low light situation, I have no inventive to change if it's the case, I'll wait to see what people can do with the Ace Pro @@MxEdits101
I actually prefer the colors of the GoPro in the dark trees comparison way more.. Curious if you shot on GoPro in 10-bit High Bitrate or just stock settings? Great comparison and cool to see the camera pushed in adverse scenarios
Probly not
That's what I'm saying too, it clearly has better color/white balance.
Now, would that mode still be better to use in a night ride(complete dark) with your bike lights, or normal mode and bike lights
I specifically run amber 4x4 pods
ok, perfect timing -WOW
Never had such bad quality from my GoPro. I am really happy with my camera. This is not a criticism, but I understood about 15% of what you were saying. As you can surmise, I am not an ex-video pro. Seemed you were making a sales pitch. Frankly I liked some of there GoPro video you took better than the Ace Pro video. Also, if you are riding at times of bad lighting without a headlight, i.e., in the evening or later, you ought to rethink what you are doing and why. Don’t see the need for a camera that records well in bad lighting. I just don’t ride in those areas or at those times.
100% Agreed = this video made it look like the GoPro 12 is shit, definitly something wrong with this video, sorry 👎
It’s a sales pitch. That’s the problem with sponsored TH-camrs. Not an unbiased opinion.
Dude definitely made the GoPro look bad on purpose 🤦🏻♂️ that said the Ace is still an amazing camera.
@@RichardERTZuh…, it’s because the GoPro 12 IS inferior, and this is coming from a guy who has used GoPros for more than 10 years. Competition is good. Maybe GoPro will come out with a killer upgrade this year, but I’m not holding my breath.
Insta360 raising the bar!
I was on the fence before this video. Pretty sure I'm going to get it
Great video Ryan. This camera looks amazing though I do have a few reservations: do you feel the flip screen will be problematic in time? I mean, for mtb and gravel, how much grit is going to get into the hinge and bugger it up? I always feel things like this are bound to be the weak point of the product. Next -- I understand the gps overlays are compatible with Apple watches and Garmin ... I wonder if they are approaching Wahoo and Hammerhead to get them compatible, too. Most riders I know moved away from Garmin to others when their customer service and product quality dropped.
Definitely interested on settings and how too. As have just purchased the GoPro 11 and still tinkering for best mtb results
Thanks very much. Very good!
Great review
I hope this action cam is a sneak preview on the next 360° cam (X4 most likely). I'm still using the X2 and I'm waiting for the next big step.
Agreed! That would be incredible.
Great video! I just got the hero 12...kinda wish i waited lol. But the hero 12 has been a good camera for me so far.
So tempted to buy one, however I rarely use the GoPro I have now!
lol opening cut was gold
loooool i randomly see that in my feed an immediately feel like oh wait this guy is in Canmore! we are basically neighbors! i'm keeping eyes open for back country ski sesh in Roger's pass this winter thoughts ?
Would love to see an update vid once u have used it a while... What are the issues & downsides.... Like any overheating, battery life, glitching etc... GoPro has all these on later models... With such a powerful chip this camera must surely have...
Great comparison, amazing Ace Pro
Amazing commercial! Very nicely done!! Thanks!!!
This is so much more than an incremental update. I'm still using my Hero 8 black - it is fine but low light has always been lame and I tried night riding which was a complete failure even with my normal helmet/bar combo that makes the trails as ridable as daytime. Might end up upgrading sooner than I planned since nothing else so far seemed like a compelling upgrade for my limited use.
At least my gopro is tough - just had a mount snap after a jump Sat and it went bouncing down the trail completely unharmed: th-cam.com/video/xjOljCRdrxs/w-d-xo.htmlsi=aPVfatlDgW_y2Gld
Also on a H8 and yeh trying to get non grainy footage without motion blur, on a chesty, is tough. Especially as I only shoot 1080p (file sizes, storage, Internet data use , laptop processing etc reasons)
I love this. Any idea on battery power when it’s cold? My GoPro is almost worthless during Utah winters.
I just won a X360 Ace pro, I can't wait for it to arrive.
Love the vids keep it uppp
Color looks so much better on the Insta360 too, the GoPro has such a strong yellow tinge to it
Thanks for the overview. Looks like a great camera for what it's intended. I have a couple questions if you don't mind. Are you saying other cameras apply denoise after encoding and then re-encode? When you demoed the zoom 4k feature are you zooming in with the GoPro itself or doing it in post? Just trying to understand what I'm looking at.
Great video! Am fascinated. BUT..... what about the audio quality? How many mics etc? Comparison on audio quality versus GoPro?
Excellent job friend
Damn that Insta 360 Ace Pro is giving a Hero 12 Black a run for its money? THANK YOU. I LOVE competition in the market. It drives innovation and demolishes either complacency or trickle releases.
great review thanks
Great features! But I'm more into 360s, so I'll hope all this is implemented on the X4.
I will never buy another an action camera...so boring compared to my my X2 and One R...even if the reframed quality of the 360 footage is barely HD is a lot more fun than 4k go pro...or similar...360 capture is a lot more fun even if I always reframe the video after-editing with my iphone 15 pro max is great....
Now that's a proper camera for mountain biking but what's the FOV and can this adjust the FOV in app or computer like X3? I own Go 2 and can adjust the FOV in computer(won't work in app) because the Go 2 FOV is too narrow for my liking.
My favorite thing about insta 360 is the software. Their app is so much better and can do some very cool tricks and transitions in the app. And this was just the one R 2-3 years ago they’ve kept getting better and better since then.
I think go pro is better now than it used to be but I remember their 360 camera needed a high end computer to stick their 360 cameras together where insta did the stitching for you and a lot faster
Have you had the chance to test it's auto-whitebalance on snow already?
Got to say: based on you're footage, it delivers really good quality!
@TheLoamRanger I currently have the GoPro hero 7, I am an ultra runner and want to start capturing my races and training, I want to upgrade for the stabilization my 7 dosent have. In your professional opinion after using the 12 would an upgrade to the 11 or 12 bed the best move? Just curious and looking for some guidance, I've followed your recommendations on setting for recording and you've always been spot on. So I can say I trust your opinion. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
just to say, if you want better image quality in low light on gopro, just use manual shutter settings and put shutter to 1/120 or 1/240. Sure the light is less but with a good light it is ok
Thanks for the comparison video. How would the GoPro Max stack up against these? Can you comment on which style of camera is best for capturing Onewheel or other skateboard rides? (Insta 360 Ace Pro vs. X3, or GoPro Hero 12 vs. Max)?
That looks pretty amazing in very low light, just not even a question overall that it looks like Insta360 has knocked it out of the park as long as someone wants to invest that much. Just started catching my own MTB footage for the first time with a used Hero 8 Black, do you use a basic chest rig or is there something better?
thanks for the info! question for you. i shoot with a chin mount for mtb footage and currently on a gopro 10 (shooting 4k), if i were to upgrade would you suggest the onex3 or the ace pro? seems like the ace pro isn’t wide enough? also, im probably the only guy in mammoth lakes, ca sporting nf gear, so dig your hoodie!
The Ace Pro doesn’t have a wide enough FOV to get both the bars and the trail in the shot. So the X3 would be the ticket for chin mounting. Hope that helps!