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I was in high school when the Ford Cobras were new on the market. Our class had to walk to the local pool as the school didn't have its own. On the way to the pool, we went past the local Ford dealership, and I remember seeing the Ford Cobras in the show room. Me and my mates used to drool over them.
Greetings from Boston , USA. That Falcon is absolutely super and well worth the time involved to fix it right. This shop does fine work, Thanks for the tour.
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No, he's having a lend of you guys. My shop would have the whole car restored for Les than the hours said on the rear quarter. This guy is one of the reasons why restoring cars are so expensive. Always do your homework shop about get quotes also speak to other customers, and ask to see work carried out to date.
Sure you would. Don’t you think people might’ve been coming to TTT for years for those very same reasons? Post the name of your shop so we can all be aware of where to avoid getting a cheap arsed job.
If your saying you can fully restore a car like this for 30-40k, your not fully restoring a car to any decent quality level 🤣 The main reason car restoration is so expensive is because by the time the cars have reached a quality resto shop like this one, they have already been fucked around by idiots like you that reckon they can do it cheap and end up fucking the car up even more!
300hr on the quater you must be joking , if you couldn't do it in 40hrs pack it in , 8hrs to remove , 8 to replace , leaving 3 days to massage the dents
Yes 300 hours for a professional is ridiculous. These guys just see dollars. The fender is pretty straightforward. The rest of the car however requires much more difficult fabrication.
@rosewood1 even replacing a roof if a good one is obtained isn't the biggest job for a professional restorer, I know people that would do this car in 6 weeks by themselves, body only including paint
It is for all intents and purposes, in 999 out of 1000 skilled tradesman's eyes, an absolute and utter write-off. That car is ready for the crushers. It is stuffed. Most people could never even make it close to good again, let alone make it right. Just to take it on, and do it properly, in metal, zero bog, to a quality that will absolutely be better than new, yes, absolutely. It will take years. Love all the YT panel beaters sitting there, saying how ridiculous it is, knowing better. When you're good enough to charge someone that money to take on that sort of a write off project, then we'll talk.
I actually worked in autobody years before I became a police officer, so I know what the repair entails and 300 hours for a 1/4 repair is ridiculous. Either he doesn't know what he's doing, or he's a crook.
I'm glad to see that Cobra is getting restored/repaired. It might not make much sense on some level, but I still think it's worth it, and I'm not strictly speaking a Ford guy.
Same here. Sounds a bit odd. “You’re not from this area so we can’t do it”? I know guys who send their classic cars interstate for work at specific shops that have a great reputation. Very weird.
@@TheWombat2012 They would rather service the local clientele that have kept them in work for nearly five decades. Still plenty of cars to do from Gippsland without taking on work from elsewhere.
@@code187_m.d.k5absolutely no way you could do that 1/4 panel in a day! If they are replacing it or removing it then reusing it then all the paint and seem sealer has to be ground away, all the spot welds have to be drilled out, the lead work on the sail panel has to be removed and that's just to get to the inner wheel tub that is all caved in and probably needs some rot and rust repair but before they can even start doing that they have to try to get most of the dents pulled. If they're going to repair it without removing it that is a ton of hours. I did a very simple 1/4 panel skin job with some trunk drop off rot repair about 2 years ago on my cobra and I probably had 125 hours into that and it was nowhere near this bad it also wasn't the first one I did so I knew what I was doing.
Strip to bare metal, place on jig, do roof, rear quarter and A/B pillars at the same time. A good month of solid work. Once the chassis is strait and windows fit, front rails replaced, aligned, then the real work begins. I'd expect, with a lot of enthusiasm, a solid year.
I’ve seen one in central Queensland on a farm. Guy has all the paperwork and proof of what it is. No idea why they didn’t do them from the factory alongside the coupe.
The Cobra build was done to run out the coupe bodies as they were going out of production. They probably didn't realise at the time that the Cobra style would become legendary
The four slot, shark gill-styled mudguards were fitted to the earlier Monaros - the HK through to the HT or HG (Holden model designations are quite illogical) - whereas the horizontal slots were fitted to the HQ. I THINK that from the HJ through to the HX and HZ, there were three squarer apertures. And, by the way, the HZ wasn’t a Monaro; it was just badged as the GTS. A great video. Thanks.
The Guard flutes Are GTS guards not just monaro as stated @11.41 And probably premier front twin headlight not just a 'monaro' front no such thing the bonnets with flutes are GTS again shared these the instrument cluster from a monaro is different with more gauges than standard dash Again GTS dash all top of the trim level
Nothing is better than restoring these old cars,my HT Monaro is similar wreck to that Cobra but rust has taken out alot of the floor. One of my club members has one of them Cobras bought it brand new,he be interested in having a captain cook at that one,his a few minutes from your shop. 😁😁
In the US the Falcon was a boxy short car. My first car was a 1964 Falcon 2 door hardtop with a 260 V8 and a T10 4 speed. It was blue on blue with bench seat. There was a Sprint tack in the heat gauge hole and a gauge cluster under the dash. To many have been converted into drag cars.
Australia had the same Falcon too in the 60s but then Ford Australia designed their own Falcon rather than adapting the US design. The Cobra is a late 70s model. Think Mad Max interceptor in white with blue stripes.
More on the Cobra repair, please. You could easily do a TH-cam series on it & it would rate big time. Mach 1 is the term used for the speed of sound so that Mustang would struggle a bit.
I own Cobra 349. Nice to see my car is not the only one where the stripes are not straight. There was no mention of what number Cobra this was. Going by the power windows is an auto with A/C and power steering. We don’t know if a 302 or 351. There is a guy Jamie in Melbourne that makes rear 1/4’s they are in the 12k range. I have used his parts for a different project.
I love watching the restoration of classics cars on UTube. I am a true blue Holden man ( love my HQ vans) but make no mistake I love the old Fords, Mopars as we had the best era in cars from the 50s to the 80s. So happy they are all coming back to show this generation what they missed out on. Can’t compare the cars of today to those from our era. No comparison!
I very regrettably did the same to a xb falcon many many years ago over here in NZ, sent it to the scrappy. It was only a 500 sedan 6cyl. At the time it was worth nothing, needed bout 8k of rust repairs that weren't justifiable at the time. But now...... I completely stripped the car and it was just the bare shell that went, i still have every single other piece off it including plates and tags sitting in a garden shed out back. Picked up another shell a few years ago which needs more rust repairs than the original, but its just the way it goes and ya gotta take what ya can get.
@@Vikingxb Funnily enough I kinda regret NOT sending my Falcon to the wreckers. It ended up costing me six figures to get it driveable and rust free. It really wasn't worth it.
XC Falcon Ute with Cobra paint job,.... and a 460cube motor built by Allan Moffats engine guru and actual downforce making wing on the back with the rear quarters lead-filled for more grip on the rear tyres. Yes, there was one, back as far as the '80's, privately built. Was/Is owned by a bloke whose workshop did automatics and the like in Melbournes western suburbs. There were plenty of other Utes with the stripes, again, privately built.
It is for all intents and purposes, in 999 out of 1000 skilled tradesman's eyes, an absolute and utter write-off. That car is ready for the crushers. It is stuffed. Most people could never even make it close to good again, let alone make it right. Just to take it on, and do it properly, in metal, zero bog, to a quality that will absolutely be better than new, yes, absolutely. It will take years. Love all the YT panel beaters sitting there, saying how ridiculous it is, knowing better. When you're good enough to charge someone that money to take on that sort of a write off project, then you can talk.
@@dons1932 It's not really about that. It's one comment about one panel and the time it takes. Do the math's at that guys hourly rate which is likely $100 minimum and multiply through the rest of the build. I have worked with motor coach and body builders many times on strange projects. Seems exaggerated to me but good on you if you want to apt him on the back.
50 hours would all that quarter would need but better to make a new one and massage it through an english wheel. I think someone has been overcharged on this restore. No wonder the fella whose getting paid big $$$$$$ to do it can't stop laughing and can't stop smiling.......
As a Kid we had an Alan Moffat Special. It was a black & white 4 door. Dad sold it to a mate, I was a devastated 12 year old. Anyway that seems like a forgotten beauty.
Pinnacle,...? Not. Even. Close. Both the Cobra's and the John Goss, are Decal Specials by the Advertising Dept. Mechanically stock. There are four cars that can claim to be the "Pinnacle of Aussie Muscle Cars" - The XY GTHO Phase3, The Torana A9X, and the VH Charger E49,... with the fourth being the confusion of stories surrounding the XA Phase 4.
What a shame he wouldn't let you do the shell. I think it would be stronger than sections. My father was a heavy collision Man. He did sections, tops , quarters, floors. I can see the 300 hours easily. I remember it taking my father a year to fix one car before. It was actually an old corvair convertible. Another one I remember took a long time was a 58 Chevy. You guys that do that type of collisions work are true artists and skilled metal workers.
I had a mate with a HG ute. I loved it. He said it was the worst car he ever owned. It was a shit box I'll admit, but i saw its potential. Never attempted sadly.
That’s what it’s all about round here. Chance for the boys and girls who earn their crust making the owners look good at shows etc, to have their time in the limelight.
My HX 1 Tonner, i could take a pallet of 745ml crates of Beer on the back, made the old girl lean backward, thank goodness for the heavy duty 4 speed manual box, had to drink a few after unloading them, great ole wagon, face lifted to a HZ, new doors, new front guards, new nose cone, awesome
I had an early 69 Black Jade M code Mach 1 just like that from May '81 to Sept '20. It had the same hood with the 4 cutouts under the scoop that later changed to solid underneath, and the teak woodgrain instead of the later walnut. It also had the early fiberglass quarter panel extension caps. I right away bought a '69 B302 chinny from the dealer which was still available at that time, and added used louvers and wing. I bought a '70 wing since '69 wings were hens teeth and no good anyway because the roto moulded plastic deformed over time unlike the later fiberglass. I also cut my trunk bracing copied from '70 to fit the mounting brackets instead of drilling 4 simple bolt holes like in '69 for the wing. Thankfully I had no problem with my trunk lid staying up and didn't need the '70 prop rod setup because it wouldn't suit fiberglass extension caps.
I’m not jealous or anything The bloke freaked out about the hours in the quarter, lucky the $1500 gas cap is ok Needs mirrors there is another $400 but Nos ones are $800 Falcons Gt reps cost heaps let along a cobra Best of luck keen to watch Looks like a inspirational place to work at
@@davesclassicgaragetours oh, yes Sir, it’s done been did! I more do the mechanic stuff. My three brothers-in-law (one died 6 years ago) have been hammer slingers (panel beaters as y’all call them Down Under) all their lives from growing up in my late Daddy-in-law’s auto body shop.
I believe Mach 1 was the project code assigned to development of the first Mustangs. The prototype of the first Mustang (aka, Mach 1 Project), is better known as a GT40.
I remember seeing one of these at Beaurepaires Rockhampton back in the early 90’s, I assumed the boss man owned it. Beautiful car, nearly as good as a HQ Monaro. 😉
Because locals have kept him in business for forty years and he gets enough work from them and has a sense of loyalty so that they’re not left waiting for their cars to be worked on.
The first Mach 1 arrived in 1969, named in a nod to Chuck Yeager's feat of breaking the sound barrier in 1947. The Mustang was on the market for five years by 1969; it had already started evolving into a much more capable sports car, compared to the debut model, and was ready to receive a variety of special editions
@@stigmata454 yes bud, i did. The video was about the Hard top, yes there is a clip about the pos mustang, yet, that is all you ranted about. Have an awesome day. :)
That 69 Mach 1 is a jewel. I have a 70 with the Windsor. as well as a 69 Grande Coupe 302.. And a 55 Chevy Cameo with a 1967 327 with factory forged internals (#2690 3.48 crank and flat tops) and 291 double humps w 2.02's and factory relief cuts. And 3 1956 F100 pickups. 1 with the M400/C6 and Aussie 2v's. Ford Freak for sure😉
@@davesclassicgaragetours everyone is CHOPPING on you about that 300 hour quarter panel.. I dont think they're thinking about the wheel bucket and the C pillar and possibly the trunk floor... that car is pretty twisted up. A CHALLENGE for sure... Do you use heat (propane torch) to "walk" the metal back?.. ive noticed it tries to move back on its own and makes it more pliable with a slow cool.. and only flash it with water to shrink stretched metal.. serious respect to anyone that can save that car!!!
Love my Fords I owned a 1968 XT Fairmont that I restored to look like a replica GT Falcon. I always regretted selling my beautiful Ford I now own a BA XT MKII 2004 Ford Falcon.
Mach numbers was proposed by Swiss engineer Jakob Ackeret in a 1929 lecture in Zurich. Ackeret named the number after the physicist Ernst Mach, who conducted an experiment photographing an object moving faster than the speed of sound in 1887. Ford had first used the Mach 1 badge on the futuristic Levacar concept, first shown in 1959. Gale Helderman, who also designed the Mustang, designed the Levacar Mach 1 it was seen as a hover car that floated on a cushion of air. Even if the radical Levacar came to nothing, the Mach 1 name clearly stuck with Ford executives for future use.
7.5 weeks full time on the LR guard… would not want to disrespect the guy, but…….I’ll change my mind if they video all the hours and prove that’s what it really takes…. Otherwise I’ll just assume he’s taking the P
If a clean sheet of metal takes 100 hours to form into a rear 3/4 filler side panel by the most respected supplier of hardtop panels in Australia, can you not see 300 hours in the process of stripping the car of paint, taking out every knock, lead wiping and filling, and all the techniques used today to epoxy, prime and paint not to mention the multiple sanding backs to get the perfect finish of a battered and bruised 45 year old car. Or do you think it’s just a matter of 20kgs of bog and a long weekend?
The Ford Mustang Mach 1 is a performance- oriented option package of the Ford Mustang muscle car, originally introduced in August 1968 for the 1969 model year. It was available until 1978, returned briefly in 2003, 2004, and most recently in 2021. Ford Mustang Mach 1.
How the hell do you say it going to take at least 300hrs to repair that Rear Quarter Panel, you'll have to break that down for me to understand that quote??? But I am glad that the Car is going back on the Road 👍
Well worth the restoration. Why scrap a numbers matching car. Not alot of them left. BUT you NEVER beat the originals. They CANNOT be replaced by anything. ( just my opinion that's all )
I bought one on behalf of a friend of mine in the mid to late nineties. I bought it from a broke uni student who just couldn't afford it any longer. $13500 was the number back then. How times have changed!
Couldn't agree more. Has all the hallmarks of the time-honored rip off artist sounding out gullibility & pocket depth of the client while taking on the mien of the 'expert.' Run, just run.
I think I can remember driving past this poor bloke in the crashed Cobra, between Lock and Bena on the sth gippy hwy many years ago, Ambos n Cops everywhere, wow flashbacks
300hrs on one quarter panel ? thats 37.5 days nearly 8 weeks at 5 day x 8hr days at a rough $110 an hour = $33'000 ' no wonder restorations are so expensive
300 hours. ROTFLMAO. Even bringing that panel back to dead straight with pulling and shrinking the metal to near perfect would take nothing near that and you might have a very fine half a mill of lead in a few places. It will have bog or spray bog in places to hide the gravel rash anyway so will not be 100% filler free anyway. Taking into account 300 hours would mean about 5 years to straighten just the panels.
Well Hokey Flingin Money POO!! I didn't know the the Aussies got a "Cobra" Version of the Falcon! I thought it was only on the Mustang seeing as we here in Canada didn't see much else except a few imports from Europe. COOL!!
They are aren’t they? Second only in livery spec to the XB John Goss Special ..in my humble opinion. Check out this little historical video I made KNOWN IN 60 SECONDS first video & it’s the iconic Falcon XC Cobra from Ford’s Australian arm th-cam.com/users/shortsdEsMpYl6Mho?feature=share
The John Goss special had 302 Cleveland,s ( yes US people I said 302 Cleveland) and a D20 Borg Warner four speed mated to a Borg Warner 78 limited slip diff .
From the internet: The Mach 1 name is taken from the term used to denote when something is travelling at the speed of sound. Ford had first used the Mach 1 badge on the futuristic Levacar concept, first shown in 1959. I have a 69 and 70 Mach 1, my 69 is also green, from the factory, love the color !!
Dependent upon the availability of parts, how often the owner can add to the coffers and in this case, it’s a crash repair operation, so insurance jobs take precedence. The owners that come to TTT understand that.
Those gill flutes are correct for the HK HT and HG GTS monaro. The horizontal were in the HQ GTS monaro MACH 1 was attributed to the speed of sound and I think ford first brought it out on their experimental levacar I think in 1959
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what number is the cobra matw
Mate can you make another video clarifying the 300 hours on that panel?
300 hrs 🤔 😂
dave looks sounds like benny hill's bother
Always interesting to see the cars that never made it to the states. Keep up the good work.
I was in high school when the Ford Cobras were new on the market. Our class had to walk to the local pool as the school didn't have its own.
On the way to the pool, we went past the local Ford dealership, and I remember seeing the Ford Cobras in the show room.
Me and my mates used to drool over them.
Great memories
@@lyleroberson9857 what school had its own pool???
Greetings from Boston , USA. That Falcon is absolutely super and well worth the time involved to fix it right. This shop does fine work, Thanks for the tour.
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No, he's having a lend of you guys. My shop would have the whole car restored for Les than the hours said on the rear quarter.
This guy is one of the reasons why restoring cars are so expensive.
Always do your homework shop about get quotes also speak to other customers, and ask to see work carried out to date.
Does that include time to film, edit, and stream the restoration? ;)
Sure you would.
Don’t you think people might’ve been coming to TTT for years for those very same reasons?
Post the name of your shop so we can all be aware of where to avoid getting a cheap arsed job.
I've got a framing hammer and a socket set. I'll restore that car for $1,000 USD. You'll have it back by Monday.
If your saying you can fully restore a car like this for 30-40k, your not fully restoring a car to any decent quality level 🤣
The main reason car restoration is so expensive is because by the time the cars have reached a quality resto shop like this one, they have already been fucked around by idiots like you that reckon they can do it cheap and end up fucking the car up even more!
I agree when i heard that bs! I know blokes who do this in their backyard n sheds. this guy is taking a him for a ride!
300hr on the quater you must be joking , if you couldn't do it in 40hrs pack it in , 8hrs to remove , 8 to replace , leaving 3 days to massage the dents
Would rather someone that takes their time to be honest
Except they aren't replacing it, they are restoring it in order to retain the most original sheet metal as possible
Yes 300 hours for a professional is ridiculous. These guys just see dollars. The fender is pretty straightforward. The rest of the car however requires much more difficult fabrication.
@rosewood1 even replacing a roof if a good one is obtained isn't the biggest job for a professional restorer, I know people that would do this car in 6 weeks by themselves, body only including paint
300 hours is ok if he only charges $7 an hour..
It's criminal that cars like this aren't and can't be still manufactured IN AUSTRALIA.
Well done the custodians of these motoring treasures.
At least you had them the U.S. stoped alot of cars ya'll steel were makeing .
300 hours for a 1/4 repair is outrageous!
@TyaxComp No, but anyone who has any autobody experience knows 300 hours is outrageous.
The old man has lost his mind
It is for all intents and purposes, in 999 out of 1000 skilled tradesman's eyes, an absolute and utter write-off. That car is ready for the crushers. It is stuffed. Most people could never even make it close to good again, let alone make it right. Just to take it on, and do it properly, in metal, zero bog, to a quality that will absolutely be better than new, yes, absolutely. It will take years. Love all the YT panel beaters sitting there, saying how ridiculous it is, knowing better. When you're good enough to charge someone that money to take on that sort of a write off project, then we'll talk.
@@dons1932 $30000 to fix one 1/4 panel would want too be better than new
I actually worked in autobody years before I became a police officer, so I know what the repair entails and 300 hours for a 1/4 repair is ridiculous. Either he doesn't know what he's doing, or he's a crook.
I'm glad to see that Cobra is getting restored/repaired. It might not make much sense on some level, but I still think it's worth it, and I'm not strictly speaking a Ford guy.
Didn’t understand what was the reasoning for them denying the XC Ute tribute build?
Same here. Sounds a bit odd. “You’re not from this area so we can’t do it”? I know guys who send their classic cars interstate for work at specific shops that have a great reputation. Very weird.
@@TheWombat2012 They would rather service the local clientele that have kept them in work for nearly five decades. Still plenty of cars to do from Gippsland without taking on work from elsewhere.
He said the rejected the job because Ford never built an XC Cobra ute.
300hrs on a quarter wat a scammer cars gunna cost 5 million to restore with this gronk. SMH
Thats what i instantly thought could have the rear quarter done in a day easy
@@code187_m.d.k5absolutely no way you could do that 1/4 panel in a day! If they are replacing it or removing it then reusing it then all the paint and seem sealer has to be ground away, all the spot welds have to be drilled out, the lead work on the sail panel has to be removed and that's just to get to the inner wheel tub that is all caved in and probably needs some rot and rust repair but before they can even start doing that they have to try to get most of the dents pulled. If they're going to repair it without removing it that is a ton of hours. I did a very simple 1/4 panel skin job with some trunk drop off rot repair about 2 years ago on my cobra and I probably had 125 hours into that and it was nowhere near this bad it also wasn't the first one I did so I knew what I was doing.
Hi - great to see that you can repair the Cobra. I have Falcon Cobra 032 (fortunately has not been rolled).
The guy is clearly passionate about the cars he’s restoring
Strip to bare metal, place on jig, do roof, rear quarter and A/B pillars at the same time. A good month of solid work. Once the chassis is strait and windows fit, front rails replaced, aligned, then the real work begins. I'd expect, with a lot of enthusiasm, a solid year.
Remember being in that cobra some 35 years ago good to see it being restored
Ford did paint up falcon utes in the cobra livery they were used as marshal cars at the 1978 Bathurst
I’ve seen one in central Queensland on a farm. Guy has all the paperwork and proof of what it is. No idea why they didn’t do them from the factory alongside the coupe.
The Cobra build was done to run out the coupe bodies as they were going out of production. They probably didn't realise at the time that the Cobra style would become legendary
Not trying to be a smarty pants but its plenum not plellum.
The four slot, shark gill-styled mudguards were fitted to the earlier Monaros - the HK through to the HT or HG (Holden model designations are quite illogical) - whereas the horizontal slots were fitted to the HQ. I THINK that from the HJ through to the HX and HZ, there were three squarer apertures. And, by the way, the HZ wasn’t a Monaro; it was just badged as the GTS. A great video. Thanks.
Thank you Alastair. As you can tell, this Pom’s red and blue knowledge is a little lacking.
Been on Aussie muscle cars since the 70s so easy answer, what scares me is a panel guy that’s the same age as me that doesn’t
Upper Middle petrol head??!
That's what I thought exactly. Xu1 also had the shark gill type guards only 3 gills though
The Guard flutes Are GTS guards not just monaro as stated @11.41 And probably premier front twin headlight not just a 'monaro' front no such thing the bonnets with flutes are GTS again shared these the instrument cluster from a monaro is different with more gauges than standard dash Again GTS dash all top of the trim level
300 hours on that rear quarter 🤨🤨🤣🤣
yeah that is ridiculous it should be 300 hrs for the entire body shell!
Interesting little shop, i enjoy what these guys are doing, thanks Dave.
Glad you enjoyed it
Really interesting & informative. Thanks Dave & TTT A & R (great work saving the classics).
You are most welcome
Nothing is better than restoring these old cars,my HT Monaro is similar wreck to that Cobra but rust has taken out alot of the floor. One of my club members has one of them Cobras bought it brand new,he be interested in having a captain cook at that one,his a few minutes from your shop. 😁😁
In the US the Falcon was a boxy short car. My first car was a 1964 Falcon 2 door hardtop with a 260 V8 and a T10 4 speed. It was blue on blue with bench seat. There was a Sprint tack in the heat gauge hole and a gauge cluster under the dash. To many have been converted into drag cars.
Yes Aus South America had same Falcon.
Australia had the same Falcon too in the 60s but then Ford Australia designed their own Falcon rather than adapting the US design. The Cobra is a late 70s model. Think Mad Max interceptor in white with blue stripes.
Squint hard at a Ford Torino gran sport sport roof and a falcon xB hard top jumps out at you
More on the Cobra repair, please. You could easily do a TH-cam series on it & it would rate big time. Mach 1 is the term used for the speed of sound so that Mustang would struggle a bit.
That’s the plan.
@@davesclassicgaragetours yes please show the metal work being done..maybe time-lapse of the dent repair.
The HKTG panels are made in Lismore NSW by Deano's Restorations. 100% quality parts made to order!
I own Cobra 349. Nice to see my car is not the only one where the stripes are not straight.
There was no mention of what number Cobra this was.
Going by the power windows is an auto with A/C and power steering. We don’t know if a 302 or 351.
There is a guy Jamie in Melbourne that makes rear 1/4’s they are in the 12k range. I have used his parts for a different project.
All in good time 😊
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I love watching the restoration of classics cars on UTube. I am a true blue Holden man ( love my HQ vans) but make no mistake I love the old Fords, Mopars as we had the best era in cars from the 50s to the 80s. So happy they are all coming back to show this generation what they missed out on. Can’t compare the cars of today to those from our era. No comparison!
that's a hell of a restoration job on that cobra. i still regret sending my coupe to the scrap yard my years ago.
I suspect that’s a common theme amongst former owners.
That hurts just hearing it.
@@hisheroship
I regret it every day.. I still have the compliance plates as a token and pictures. If I ever have the money I'll get another one.
I very regrettably did the same to a xb falcon many many years ago over here in NZ, sent it to the scrappy. It was only a 500 sedan 6cyl. At the time it was worth nothing, needed bout 8k of rust repairs that weren't justifiable at the time. But now......
I completely stripped the car and it was just the bare shell that went, i still have every single other piece off it including plates and tags sitting in a garden shed out back. Picked up another shell a few years ago which needs more rust repairs than the original, but its just the way it goes and ya gotta take what ya can get.
@@Vikingxb Funnily enough I kinda regret NOT sending my Falcon to the wreckers. It ended up costing me six figures to get it driveable and rust free. It really wasn't worth it.
XC Falcon Ute with Cobra paint job,.... and a 460cube motor built by Allan Moffats engine guru and actual downforce making wing on the back with the rear quarters lead-filled for more grip on the rear tyres.
Yes, there was one, back as far as the '80's, privately built. Was/Is owned by a bloke whose workshop did automatics and the like in Melbournes western suburbs. There were plenty of other Utes with the stripes, again, privately built.
300 hours is 38 days at 8 hours a day on one panel Tell him he's dreamin'
It is for all intents and purposes, in 999 out of 1000 skilled tradesman's eyes, an absolute and utter write-off. That car is ready for the crushers. It is stuffed. Most people could never even make it close to good again, let alone make it right. Just to take it on, and do it properly, in metal, zero bog, to a quality that will absolutely be better than new, yes, absolutely. It will take years. Love all the YT panel beaters sitting there, saying how ridiculous it is, knowing better. When you're good enough to charge someone that money to take on that sort of a write off project, then you can talk.
@@dons1932 It's not really about that. It's one comment about one panel and the time it takes. Do the math's at that guys hourly rate which is likely $100 minimum and multiply through the rest of the build. I have worked with motor coach and body builders many times on strange projects. Seems exaggerated to me but good on you if you want to apt him on the back.
50 hours would all that quarter would need but better to make a new one and massage it through an english wheel. I think someone has been overcharged on this restore. No wonder the fella whose getting paid big $$$$$$ to do it can't stop laughing and can't stop smiling.......
100%
That's a lot of cars in 1 workshop, they've obviously got a good reputation. That Cobra is a massive job, credit to whoever repairs it.
They are a talented bunch that’s for sure.
So at $100 an hour that rear quarter alone is going to be $30,000. Convict culture alive and well in Oz!
As a Kid we had an Alan Moffat Special. It was a black & white 4 door. Dad sold it to a mate, I was a devastated 12 year old.
Anyway that seems like a forgotten beauty.
Not many people know the AM specials I remember one of our teachers owned one....god that is a long time ago.
Time to resurrect the last of the V8 Interceptors...will be worth watching this series. Will have to subscribe.
I believe this was the pinnacle of Aussie muscle. Greatest looking car we've ever built for me.
Great call but I’m going for the John Goss Special. Something about that green and low swags line in the decal
@@davesclassicgaragetours
There was a blue JGS produced as well.
Pinnacle,...? Not. Even. Close.
Both the Cobra's and the John Goss, are Decal Specials by the Advertising Dept. Mechanically stock.
There are four cars that can claim to be the "Pinnacle of Aussie Muscle Cars" - The XY GTHO Phase3, The Torana A9X, and the VH Charger E49,... with the fourth being the confusion of stories surrounding the XA Phase 4.
@@PiDsPagePrototypes Yep. Mind you, I'm a HQ Monaro fan.
@@ZoomStranger Nothing wrong with HQ Monaro with a 350, or a HG with a 327.
And I'm a VC Valiant owner.
Well done on saving the old girl.
Still some way to go.
Great Channel, good commentary and questions, really interesting builds.
Much appreciated! And glad you're enjoying the channel.
To get it where you use hardly any filler,
I can see it taking long.
Labour of love
300 hrs for the whole body maybe but one quarter panel?
Gidday mate 🤠🦘 most of that will polish out ✌️✌️🤣
You know it
What a shame he wouldn't let you do the shell. I think it would be stronger than sections. My father was a heavy collision Man. He did sections, tops , quarters, floors. I can see the 300 hours easily. I remember it taking my father a year to fix one car before. It was actually an old corvair convertible. Another one I remember took a long time was a 58 Chevy. You guys that do that type of collisions work are true artists and skilled metal workers.
I had a mate with a HG ute. I loved it. He said it was the worst car he ever owned. It was a shit box I'll admit, but i saw its potential. Never attempted sadly.
Another great walk around , nice to see behind the scenes
That’s what it’s all about round here. Chance for the boys and girls who earn their crust making the owners look good at shows etc, to have their time in the limelight.
My HX 1 Tonner, i could take a pallet of 745ml crates of Beer on the back, made the old girl lean backward, thank goodness for the heavy duty 4 speed manual box, had to drink a few after unloading them, great ole wagon, face lifted to a HZ, new doors, new front guards, new nose cone, awesome
7 weeks for the 3/4 panel repair??
Definitely looking forward to seeing this restoration project glad it's being saved thumbs up 👍👍👍👍👍
You and me both!
I had an early 69 Black Jade M code Mach 1 just like that from May '81 to Sept '20. It had the same hood with the 4 cutouts under the scoop that later changed to solid underneath, and the teak woodgrain instead of the later walnut. It also had the early fiberglass quarter panel extension caps. I right away bought a '69 B302 chinny from the dealer which was still available at that time, and added used louvers and wing. I bought a '70 wing since '69 wings were hens teeth and no good anyway because the roto moulded plastic deformed over time unlike the later fiberglass. I also cut my trunk bracing copied from '70 to fit the mounting brackets instead of drilling 4 simple bolt holes like in '69 for the wing. Thankfully I had no problem with my trunk lid staying up and didn't need the '70 prop rod setup because it wouldn't suit fiberglass extension caps.
This is not a mustang !
If we only knew the value in these cars 40 odd years ago. I would have bought heaps of them!
They couldn’t give them away when new. How times have changed. Personally I always wanted one.
Good old hindsight. We’d all be multimillionaires!
Good stuff Dave.
Thanks Frank
1969 Mach 1 428SCJ is the best one!
Nah , the Aussie Ford Falcon John Goss Special with the 4.9 litre 302 ci Cleveland ( yes US people I said 302 Cleveland) was the best.
I’m not jealous or anything
The bloke freaked out about the hours in the quarter, lucky the $1500 gas cap is ok
Needs mirrors there is another $400 but Nos ones are $800
Falcons Gt reps cost heaps let along a cobra
Best of luck keen to watch
Looks like a inspirational place to work at
I can’t wait to see the Falcon and the two Holdens finished.
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@@davesclassicgaragetours oh, yes Sir, it’s done been did! I more do the mechanic stuff. My three brothers-in-law (one died 6 years ago) have been hammer slingers (panel beaters as y’all call them Down Under) all their lives from growing up in my late Daddy-in-law’s auto body shop.
I believe Mach 1 was the project code assigned to development of the first Mustangs. The prototype of the first Mustang (aka, Mach 1 Project), is better known as a GT40.
Actually, the code name for mustang development was Torino.
Mach I refers to speed of sound.
The GT40 was based on a Lola and had nothing to do with the Mustang.
I remember seeing one of these at Beaurepaires Rockhampton back in the early 90’s, I assumed the boss man owned it. Beautiful car, nearly as good as a HQ Monaro. 😉
Nice front guards, tribute to the Monaro! 😉
“You’re not from this area we can’t do your car”. Why not?
Because locals have kept him in business for forty years and he gets enough work from them and has a sense of loyalty so that they’re not left waiting for their cars to be worked on.
I’d be pulling it out of there and giving Howard Astill a buzz. Over 30k to repair one quarter is nothing but a rip off
Why don’t you send Howard Astill the link and ask him what he thinks
300 hours for that panel bull💩
I’ll make a Monaro hg ute but won’t do a cobra ute and Im a ford fan. lol. And 300 hours Righto
I remember Phill when he owner operator from Woods Mornington many years ago, what a great guy. :)
4:31 WTF, Youre not from this area we cant do your car? What horse shit is that all about... ( This guy enjoys listening to his own voice ) 😂
I know guys who have sent their Australian classic cars interstate for work at particular shops. This sounds really weird.
He’s got more than enough to do serving the area that has supported him throughout his career.
Understand?
Goss special is XB. Moffat/Bond 1-2 Bathurst win was XC in 77 so you were a model out with them facts JTLYK.
The Ford Cobra. Such a beautiful car. My favorite of all the Fords.
🤤 🤤🤤
Fine looking machine that’s for sure th-cam.com/users/shortsdEsMpYl6Mho?feature=share
The first Mach 1 arrived in 1969, named in a nod to Chuck Yeager's feat of breaking the sound barrier in 1947. The Mustang was on the market for five years by 1969; it had already started evolving into a much more capable sports car, compared to the debut model, and was ready to receive a variety of special editions
you are aware this is NOT a mustang, right?
@@stigmata454 yes bud, i did. The video was about the Hard top, yes there is a clip about the pos mustang, yet, that is all you ranted about. Have an awesome day. :)
The Mach 1 came into existence when Ford was splitting with Shelby at the time. It more or less replaced the GT350.
...ahh that'll buff out.
That 69 Mach 1 is a jewel. I have a 70 with the Windsor. as well as a 69 Grande Coupe 302.. And a 55 Chevy Cameo with a 1967 327 with factory forged internals (#2690 3.48 crank and flat tops) and 291 double humps w 2.02's and factory relief cuts.
And 3 1956 F100 pickups. 1 with the M400/C6 and Aussie 2v's.
Ford Freak for sure😉
Without a question
@@davesclassicgaragetours everyone is CHOPPING on you about that 300 hour quarter panel.. I dont think they're thinking about the wheel bucket and the C pillar and possibly the trunk floor... that car is pretty twisted up. A CHALLENGE for sure...
Do you use heat (propane torch) to "walk" the metal back?.. ive noticed it tries to move back on its own and makes it more pliable with a slow cool.. and only flash it with water to shrink stretched metal.. serious respect to anyone that can save that car!!!
@@nobiden3134 most just aren't thinking or know nothing about the work involved, including paint
Love my Fords I owned a 1968 XT Fairmont that I restored to look like a replica GT Falcon. I always regretted selling my beautiful Ford I now own a BA XT MKII 2004 Ford Falcon.
Mach numbers was proposed by Swiss engineer Jakob Ackeret in a 1929 lecture in Zurich. Ackeret named the number after the physicist Ernst Mach, who conducted an experiment photographing an object moving faster than the speed of sound in 1887.
Ford had first used the Mach 1 badge on the futuristic Levacar concept, first shown in 1959.
Gale Helderman, who also designed the Mustang, designed the Levacar Mach 1 it was seen as a hover car that floated on a cushion of air. Even if the radical Levacar came to nothing, the Mach 1 name clearly stuck with Ford executives for future use.
7.5 weeks full time on the LR guard… would not want to disrespect the guy, but…….I’ll change my mind if they video all the hours and prove that’s what it really takes…. Otherwise I’ll just assume he’s taking the P
If a clean sheet of metal takes 100 hours to form into a rear 3/4 filler side panel by the most respected supplier of hardtop panels in Australia, can you not see 300 hours in the process of stripping the car of paint, taking out every knock, lead wiping and filling, and all the techniques used today to epoxy, prime and paint not to mention the multiple sanding backs to get the perfect finish of a battered and bruised 45 year old car. Or do you think it’s just a matter of 20kgs of bog and a long weekend?
300 hrs for one 1/4 panel, 300 hrs = $30K
Show me a resto shop charging $100/hr. - if they’re any good, they’re being mugs
@@davesclassicgaragetours you have to remember you have U.S. people watching so $100usd equals to $160aud.
The Ford Mustang Mach
1 is a performance- oriented option package of the Ford Mustang muscle car, originally introduced in August 1968 for the 1969 model year. It was available until 1978, returned briefly in 2003, 2004, and most recently in 2021. Ford Mustang Mach 1.
This is not a mustang !
what the hell is a plelum?
did you mean plenum?
How the hell do you say it going to take at least 300hrs to repair that Rear Quarter Panel, you'll have to break that down for me to understand that quote??? But I am glad that the Car is going back on the Road 👍
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Well worth the restoration. Why scrap a numbers matching car. Not alot of them left. BUT you NEVER beat the originals. They CANNOT be replaced by anything. ( just my opinion that's all )
I bought one on behalf of a friend of mine in the mid to late nineties. I bought it from a broke uni student who just couldn't afford it any longer. $13500 was the number back then. How times have changed!
Crikey. They certainly have
Monaro vents will be horizontal or vertical (diagonal) depending on the model.
300hours to repair that qtr panel, tell him he's dreamin. 40 hours more like
Couldn't agree more. Has all the hallmarks of the time-honored rip off artist sounding out gullibility & pocket depth of the client while taking on the mien of the 'expert.' Run, just run.
I think I can remember driving past this poor bloke in the crashed Cobra, between Lock and Bena on the sth gippy hwy many years ago, Ambos n Cops everywhere, wow flashbacks
2 door-anythings are pretty rare from what I understand. A cobra is incredibly rare nowadays.
Very interesting stuff
300hrs on one quarter panel ? thats 37.5 days nearly 8 weeks at 5 day x 8hr days at a rough $110 an hour = $33'000 ' no wonder restorations are so expensive
Definitely not for every pocket
Its to do with the 'jet age' and Shelby retired from car building and Ford wanted something that meant speed, and Mach 1 is the speed of sound .
300 hours. ROTFLMAO. Even bringing that panel back to dead straight with pulling and shrinking the metal to near perfect would take nothing near that and you might have a very fine half a mill of lead in a few places. It will have bog or spray bog in places to hide the gravel rash anyway so will not be 100% filler free anyway. Taking into account 300 hours would mean about 5 years to straighten just the panels.
Plus epoxy, primer, paint and multiple rounds of sanding.
Well Hokey Flingin Money POO!! I didn't know the the Aussies got a "Cobra" Version of the Falcon! I thought it was only on the Mustang seeing as we here in Canada didn't see much else except a few imports from Europe. COOL!!
They are aren’t they? Second only in livery spec to the XB John Goss Special ..in my humble opinion. Check out this little historical video I made KNOWN IN 60 SECONDS first video & it’s the iconic Falcon XC Cobra from Ford’s Australian arm
th-cam.com/users/shortsdEsMpYl6Mho?feature=share
The John Goss special had 302 Cleveland,s ( yes US people I said 302 Cleveland) and a D20 Borg Warner four speed mated to a Borg Warner 78 limited slip diff .
From the internet:
The Mach 1 name is taken from the term used to denote when something is travelling at the speed of sound. Ford had first used the Mach 1 badge on the futuristic Levacar concept, first shown in 1959.
I have a 69 and 70 Mach 1, my 69 is also green, from the factory, love the color !!
300hrs on that quarter tells me your a frigger
In the riggin?
@@davesclassicgaragetours sorry my bad he must of ment 300hrs of completed sheet metal work all over the body and chassis
he might charge 300 hours but the labour is about 40
The clue is in the name folks
They must have some cash!!!!!!
300 hours on one panel WTF
couple of dudes still got their 70's hairdo's lol. great cars!
So with so many cars being restored, how long would it take to get back to the owner?
Dependent upon the availability of parts, how often the owner can add to the coffers and in this case, it’s a crash repair operation, so insurance jobs take precedence. The owners that come to TTT understand that.
Wtf 300 hrs on a quarter??? That’s about 30k to fix a quarter panel. At that rate the car should cost about a million dollars to restore!
Not even close
Nice to see for any car fan, More so for us ford fans :D
More to come!
300 hours??? Must be some mistake here
300 hours for a panel. Interesting
WTF 300 hrs to repair that quarter panel, that's Ludacris
300 hours for just the quater panel. Must be about 19000 hours for the whole car. Need to shop arround. Respect quality work but that seems alot.
19000 might be pushing it. Make sure you subscribe and keep up to date with the progress.
Those gill flutes are correct for the HK HT and HG GTS monaro. The horizontal were in the HQ GTS monaro
MACH 1 was attributed to the speed of sound and I think ford first brought it out on their experimental levacar I think in 1959