Doing my chain and sprockets now and rewatching this video 2 seasons later. This is a man who truly loves the 2 wheel community! Always a great video to watch and he provides the best walkthrough on youtube! Appreciate how you always point out things to look out for!
Good day sir I'm a 60 year old 45 years riding experience I think your content is educational I really enjoy your you can't make that s*** up it's f****** entertaining man thank you from all of us in Canada keep up the good work man
Ordered my first ever chain and sprocket kit from you all the other day, cant wait to install it! Your videos are always so helpful when installing. Keep up the good work :)
Hi I’ve been rebuilding a 05 cbr 1000 rr. From all of your videos from the ground up. Tires. Brake calipers pad. Chain both sprockets all the tools to do it Brakes lines. Levers. Spools. Frame sliders. PCV. Unit in 10 days it will be done . It’s a beast
Brother nice tight shirt. J/k. just ran into your videos. Especially the issues with the levers like mzs etc. THANK YOU. I’m happy to see people on this niche that does care about all Riders. I appreciate this a lot. Thank you
Thank you for sharing your knowledge. People like you make a big difference for people like me as a do it yourself person .we all need more people like yourself in this crazy world we live in now .thank you again
PBR is a tough tool. Cheaper breaker and riveter kits will require grinding or filing the pin down before breaking or risk breaking the threads. Nice guide.
So, for those wondering. My kit, with the Driven rear sprocket nuts, weighed 186 grams (.41 lbs) LESS than stock components. At 12,000 rpm.... I'm sure that's a big deal. 👍 And I can probably take another link out in a month or two when it breaks in.
When pressing the plate onto the pins i always measure a link that is already riveted in place using a vernier gauge. That way i can check the plate im pressing every now and then to make sure im not over pressing it.
Nice job you can also use a set of calipers to put on the plates as long as they’re the same thickness and so you’ll know you have the right press I should say on the O-rings. That’s a sweet bike you got there. What did you call those chain adjusters that’s new to me? Those are bad ass! That’s always been a pain in the ass to make sure you got the rear axle exactly right and then they never make the dang marks very accurate anyway and it’s always a pain in the ass to look at it. That’s a lot more precise way to do it. Those things are just handy-dandy. Thanks for the video.
Those are the Lightech Chain Adjusters. They offer them for most common sportbikes. Here is a link to them on our site: www.sportbiketrackgear.com/lightech/?_bc_fsnf=1&Product=Chain+Adjusters
My OEM 2016 R6 sprocket teeth ride directly center of sprocket, has two rubber bushings inboard and outboard. The new one from this kit doesn't line up either way like stock. Closest it gets is label in like you did but like 3mm off from flush. I am assuming go for the label in? Used calipers and yea stock measures 27.66 from crank, and logo in on new was 26.33 versus logo out 23ish. Figure I'd update this for anyone else. Newer Kits are different set up on rear sprocket too for anyone reading.
When you remove the OEM sprocket lay it on the bench with the side that the nut was on facing up. Now measure the distance from the bench to the inside of the groove closest to the bench. Now take the replacement sprocket and use this method to determine which side will give you the same spacing. It is very important the spacing from the motor to the start of the front sprocket is the same as it was with the OEM sprocket. - Van
Sportbike Track Gear Wouldnt that be offset with the rear sprocket? Going from 525 to 520 i measured from mating inner surface of the rear sprocket to the centre line of rear sprocket width and its smaller seeing as its narrower (525-520), matching the front 525 front sprocket to a 520 front sprocket and making them even would put the rear sprocket out of alignment. Also, in your other video where you installed the vortex kit, you laid the oem front front on the table to match the vortex front sprocket but the oem front sprocket has a rubber dampener on it which is higher than the actual mating surface on the spline. Just wanted your thoughts as i just bought a kit and wasnt sure which way it actually goes.
Did that Snap on ratchet belong to your grandfather? My Grandfather had a set of Plumb Sockets and my Father still has them. I suffer with mostly Craftsmen but they had the Patent on the lock on button system for a long time.
@@sportbiketrackgear The Snap on Guy stopped at my shop once and saw my Sears Master Mechanic set and Tool box he never came back. I used to go to a Matco Dealers house and got a 10% discount. I see a big Truck parked at my Neighbors house. I thought it was a Beer Truck turns out she sells Tools. I need to stop and meet her. Only lives a 1/2 mile from me. I know her Gender because I asked another neighbor who just sold 3 lots. He is a retired builder .. I said I suppose there will be three houses there soon. He said No he sold them to the Gal next door who has a couple of cows.. They are making it into a hay field
@@sportbiketrackgear thanks for the vids man! I got into riding street bikes some years back but just recently got more into the mechanic side of things. And all your videos helped me out big time! Just finished a engine swap, and this specific video helped me with the chain. 💪🔥📈
@@sportbiketrackgear ja ja ja .. can see you are fanatical about keeping your R-1 clean. I have never ridden on a track. One of your Employees told me about an upcoming track day at Gratten raceway. I have looked at off the shelf Leather suits, but I am so short and stocky that none of them fit plus I am working on loosing 20 more pounds. I had a washboard stomach for years but now. I plan to visit your store in person to try the suits on. I have a Yamaha FZ-07 Replaced the Original Brigstone Battle axe rear tire at 8,500 miles. It was down to the steel cords. The Michellene Road Pilot IV is much hard in the middle does not stop as well and spins in the wet more than the Brimstone did. My Original chain and sprockets are still in great shape @ 9,500 miles my black rear wheel is covered in chain grease however. I had the chain off the bike once when I changed the tire. I soaked it in mineral spirts. As I teen ager I soaked chains in diesel fuel them oiled them with #30 engine oil from an oil can. Bel-Ray chain oil has molly in it and seems to hold on longer or and give you some dry lube. I wanted to purchase a Pit Bull wheel wedge. Can't order online and forgot to ask the guy who helped me place an order if you had one in stock. I ordered the Pro Motion chain tool still not sure the difference between the two models you sell one for $94 and one for $97.00
The cup around the axle nut, is for what reason? I assume it is to protect the axle nut in case you go down. Forgive me for my ignorance but I have been out the motorcycle loop for almost 8 years. I’m back now and love your channel. Keep them videos coming.
This one is pretty much for looks to be honest. In a racing application a cup like this will be used to help make the tire change faster and easier. This would be used in endurance racing like the Daytona 200. - Van
In the video I show that exact process. When you are initially running the nuts down to where they just start to touch the sprocket you can do that in any pattern you like. The criss cross pattern should be used when you apply final torque. - Van
+Brian.. Sir: just want to say your videos are Awesome. ! if anyone sees theses and can't do the work themselves.. they shouldn't be workin on a Motorcycle. ! you Explain everything so we'll, great tone in your voice.. and point out specific bullet points, for things to check. Well done. ! I just wish you were working on a ZX14R SE. LOL I want those chain adjusters for my cycle but can't get them. dang it all. ! they don't make them for my machine. !??
I know you broke the chain at the master but didn’t you shove that enlarged pin through the inner link that the master goes through making that inner link not usable?? Or am I missing something??
When you break the chain to set the length it does not damage the chain. You are forcing the head of the rivet against the outer plate which gets discarded. - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear I understand, is the inner of the link a larger diameter or something?? Just trying to fully understand. It’s been a while since I’ve had to do one but will be installing a new chain on my R1 soon.
Nice one idol!!.. keep it up.. im really excited to have this kind of machine that push u to the limit.. and i cant wait much longer ... Im really love this bike.. tnx for mods, lots of idea.. god bless idol.. ride safe..
Big fan of this Channel. I have a 2015 FJ-09. Went down one tooth (16-15) front sprocket, stock 110 link chain still worked. Went up 5 in the rear (45-50) and stock chain is too short now. I have a new 120 link chain I need to cut. My question is; is there a dead nuts algorithm/formula to figure how many links I need to match my new 15/50 setup that was 16/45? And where is the best place on the swing arm to put it? Shorter, middle or longer wheel base?
You can use chain length to set your wheelbase. Wheel base will affect handling of the bike. Shorter will transfer weight to the back easier (wheelie) and steer a little faster. Longer will keep the bike a little more balanced under acceleration and keep the bike a little more stable. When in doubt just put it in the middle. - Van
You need to lay the OEM sprocket on a flat surface with the side that was facing the engine down. Now take the aftermarket sprocket and find the side of the sprocket that will have the same size gap between the table and the inside of the sprocket. Install which ever side lines up facing the engine. - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear Good point thanks! Second question, how can you tell the sprocket is wrong once its on the bike lol Everything does seem to line up perfectly. Is it possible it could look and sound perfect but not be right?
I used the same front sprocket theory for my driven 520 kit on my 2006 Gsxr 1000. Put both sprockets on a socket and the teeth meshed perfectly so I put the sprocket exactly like that onto the counter shaft with the shoulder facing in for that case so both front sprockets had the same distance from the engine. When I got everything on, when I went to adjust the chain, the rear aduster block ticks were like 3 marks separate aiming the rear wheel way to the left. I read the forums and motomummy swears that the front sprocket shouldn't be the same distance as the original (should sit closer to the engine) because the rear is thinner and the front needs to compensate by being closer to the engine as well. I switched the front sprocket around so the white lettering and shoulder was facing out and then the rear wheel alignment seemed much more accurate. Any opinion on this? I only ask because what seemed to correct my problem goes against what you say here in the video. I'm trying to gather my facts before I hit the road.
You need to place that block in the position for the job you are doing. In this case it supports the rivet link while you are riveting it in place. - Van
has anyone here ever had a master link not want to rivet? Im using the stockton chain tool kit. Everything went smoothly, the link is pressed to the proper measurement...i just cant get the hollow ends to rivet
I have never had that happen. I have been using the Motion Pro PBR Chain Tool 08-0470 for several seasons now and it works great. Here is a link to it on our site: www.sportbiketrackgear.com/motion-pro-pbr-chain-tool-08-0470/ - Van
@sportbike track gear is there a set up for a 2001 r1 that will gain acceleration and top end speed current stock set up is 16/43 with a 114 chain link and 530 pitch
It is a one or the other thing. If you gear it for faster acceleration you will lose some top end. Gearing it for more top end you will lose a little acceleration. - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear yup thank you. ii had to really do my homework with this gearing stuff,first time gearing a bike so went with your advice in your video. my 2001 r1 is stock 16/43 and i went to your site and got the 16/45
Motion Pro PBR Chain Tool 08-0470 www.sportbiketrackgear.com/motion-pro-pbr-chain-tool-08-0470/ These are on backorder now but should be in very soon. - Van
2017 Yamaha R1 - Doing a 520 and quick acceleration conversion with Driven sprockets and EK 3D chain from STG. just a couple of things I am unsure off before I place my order. I am thinking -1/+1 or maybe -1/0 any suggestion's? I mainly was thinking +1 rear in order to get the alu sprocket.
These bikes have so much power I feel like +2 in the rear is plenty. We are using the EK 3D chain on our MotoAmerica Supersport bike and love it. - Van
I'm changing my drivetrain on my 450 sumo. Going up 2 teeth on the rear. 112 links on now. Do I need to add any links for that upgrade? Thanks in advance!
I have a 2014 Yamaha R1 that I bought used a couple of months ago. The place I purchased it from kept their bikes outside so I finally got around to ordering a RK gold chain with black steel sprocket and -1 tooth in the front. Im in Atlanta and went to Mountain Motorsports in Conyers. The guy that worked there said dont do aluminum for the street so I took his advice. I have a question though. Should I go ahead and remove the chain gaurd when I get the new kit installed? Some ppl say yes some say no I have one day to decide lol
great job explaining everything! i would just add one more step, when adjusting chain slack i start by rotating wheel and find the tightest spot in the chain and adjust slack from there so when it gets to the tightest spot it's not to tight. might be overkill it's just something that's made sense? thank's for vids
In a perfect world the chain slack should be the same through a full rotation. If it varies while rotating there is an issue with the chain or one of the sprockets. - Van
i guess every bike i own or owned or worked on in my nearly 60 years has a issue with the chain or sprocket, i have never seen one that did not have a clear variance in slack?
The Driven Sprocket Nuts are aluminum, the manual is assuming you are using the OEM nuts. Very important to use the torque spec Driven has on the nuts. - Van
Hey Brian. I can't get my counter sprocket nut to break loose. Have my breaker bar, and have my pry bar in the rear wheel. But I still cannot get it to break loose. Do you have any suggestions for a stubborn counter sprocket nut? I put almost my whole body weight on it and no go.
525 will last longer for the street and 520 is a nice option for the track considering the reduced weight. If longevity is your desire for sure the 525 is the way to go. - Van
If you want to increase the top speed with a front sprocket change you will need to install a front that had a higher tooth count than the sprocket you currently have on the bike. Important to note that there are some physical limitations as to how big of a countershaft sprocket you can install which will vary from bike to bike. - Van
How freely should the rear wheel spin? If i spinn my wheel by hand it will almost turn 360. never reflect about that before but just put new sprockets and chain on it, just worry about if it is wrong. front wheel will spinn a lot easier
There is a lot more drag on the rear wheel than there is on the front. In between each link there are o rings that generate friction and resistance so it is normal for the rear wheel to not spin as freely as the front. Make sure your chain is properly aligned, slack is adjusted and the chain is lubricated. Doing this will minimize the drag created by the chain. - Brian Van
So I just ordered a chain and sprocket kit it says there are 120 links but I need 118 links 45 rear 17 front was it cut down to size before it was sent to me?
Also when I ordered it it said 98-14 r1 but when it was sent to me it changed to 09-14 r1 the bolts seem like they line up but why would it change to 09 are sprockets/chains interchangeable between 98-14 models?
Any chain you purchase will need to be cut to fit your bike and the gearing you are running. 120 links is the most common length for a sportbike chain. - Van
I know you ALWAYS say to check the chain after that first ride or session at the track, and my chain gained about 1/4 of a inch of slack with all bolts still tight. Is that really normal? I tried googling it, but not getting a straight forward answer
It is not uncommon for the chain to stretch right out of the gate. Adjust it and make sure you do not over tighten the chain. If there is not enough slack it is very hard on the chain, sprockets and trans. - Van
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i have 2018 r1 wanna do 520 kit on so i wanna do the 520 driven steel sprocket kit and then looking with 520 rk max z chain, will that chain be good enough, bike will be aroind 190 191 hp to the wheel
The chain will come in 120 links and you will need to trim it to the length that works best for you and the sprocket combo you are running. This will allow you to set the wheel base where you prefer it as well. - Van
Brian, what brand do you recommend the most? I have tried a few different brands, but sometimes quality changes over the years with certain manufacturers. I know you sell all the major brands and I value your opinion. Going to be purchasing a set soon. thanks
This chain kit came with the chain pre cut to proper length for this bike and sprockets. I do not remember how many links it had, just know I did not have to remove any links on it. The Driven/RK and Vortex Chain Kits typically come with the chain ready to go. Thanks for watching! - Van
I know he said if you want use a proper torque specs but I’d say anyone who is your average biker DIY kinda guy should absolutely be using a torque wrench and look up your bikes service manual to find proper torque specs ! I’ve found it crucial while doing work on my own bike to follow the service manual torque values and also whether or not to add thread locker or not some bolts require it some don’t and both decision are for a reason ! I’ve had a hell of a time stripping out small bolts I applied threadlocker to and also the opposite losing parts in the freeway for not applying threadlocker ! Follow your service manual it’ll save you money and time !
I do not use a torque wrench on items I do not feel it is necessary. If you are not comfortable working without a torque wrench Google the specs and use one. - Van
Hey Brian i have an fz 8. Standard sprocket ratio is 16 / 46. Id like to improve gas mileage so looking to add a tooth to the drive sprocket and drop one tooth on the rear. How can you calculate whether this will affect the amount of links you need in a new chain to fit the new ratio
I personally rarely count the links when I set the wheelbase on the bike. Depending on where you rear axle is now in the adjustment range you may be able to make this change without changing the chain. If you rear axle is towards the front of the adjustment range now you will most likely need a new chain. When installing a new chain you want to get the wheel base somewhere in the middle of the range on most bikes. The FX8 comes with a 122 link chain from the factory. If you plan to replace the chain you will need to order one that is longer than the 122 so you are able to set the wheelbase up correctly during the install. The most common length is 120 links. From there every brand seems to manage the longer length in different increments. Some have 130 where others jump right to 150. - Van
So when removing the master link you don’t have to grind the pins down ? I’ve seen several others grind/tell me I need to grind the pins down before pushing them out and with this tool do you have to do that or no ?
Sportbike Track Gear thanks for the reply! Bought a chain and sprocket kit and working on changing out the old stuff and didn’t know if I could just get the tool or if I needed to grind the pins too
Just get the Motion Pro PBR Chain Tool, this is the best one I have ever used. I have changed a ton of chains with the one I have in my box. Here is a link: www.sportbiketrackgear.com/motion-pro-pbr-chain-tool-08-0470/ - Van
You will need a new rivet style master link each time you need to break the chain on your sportbike as they are only able to be used one time. Once they have been riveted on they can not be reused. - Van
Please try to be a little more specific if you can. We have another video where we focus on the rivet link you can find on this page here: www.sportbiketrackgear.com/520-chain-and-sprocket-kit-guide/ Take a look at the Motion Pro Chain Tool Video, this should help get you dialed in. - Brian Van
Question.... Without checking myself anf just really being lazy... I'll ask you. I got the 520 conversion kot from vortex and om -1 +2.... I watched you just install this and made me think about when I put my front sproket on that i cany remember if I did my front sprocket on correct.... I heard you say the letters go (INWARD) made me look at mine and I can read the numbers and what not on my front sprocket. The factory sprocket is the exact same on both sides. I did not match yhe gears prior to install either.... The only gopd new is that i have been to the track woth it yet so just wonder if you know about the vortex sprockets and whoch way they are to be installed?? Also. On my link.... While mushrooming the rivets I took my digital caliper and ended up running the front side of the link on litterally .003 different from the rear rivet. In your opinion, shoupd I replace the rivet and get them EXACT same or whats your thoughts on both my concerns??? Thanks in advance for your help
That is a very minor difference in the rivet, you should be fine with that as long as they are both expanded enough. As for the front sprocket the letters are not intended to dictate sprocket installation. You need to install the front sprocket so the spacing from the end of the counter shaft on the new sprocket is the same as the OEM one that you removed. Look at it link an imaginary line from the end of the counter shaft to the surface of the cush drive the sprocket rests on. This line has to be straight for the drive train to function properly. - Van
Just ordered this kit and some other go fast stuff for my ZX10R. Damn, are those lightech chain tensioners that easy to adjust or big ass dude makes these look that easy? I'll probably be needing a set of those and that chain tool....
The Lightech Chain adjusters are pretty bad ass for sure. I have run them on the last 2 bikes I have owned and feel they are worth the money and then some. The Motion Pro PBR chain tool is the best one I have used, have had the same one for the last few years, zero issues. - Van
Thanks for the video mate! Just wondering if the threads on the countershaft are threaded when you put the nut back on, then how hard is it to replace the countershaft?!
Cheers Van, turns out it wasn't cross threaded...it was just a little sticky going on. After a few turns she went on smoothly! Whew! Looking forward to seeing your new R6 project bike, should be heaps of fun for everyone!
That was what was included in the kit we were showcasing. End of the day the 520 steel sprockets are a nice option as they will last longer than aluminum and are lighter than the OEM steel sprockets to save a little weight. - Van
You're welcome and thanks for watching. I just checked the site and they are available to order today in gold. Here is a link to them on our site: www.sportbiketrackgear.com/lightech-chain-adjusters-yamaha-yzf-r1-15-17/
Sorry,. realized you were looking at the chain kit in gold. This should be available around the 15th of May. I would recommend going with the RK MAX-X Chain in gold with the same sprockets in this kit. Here is a link to the custom Driven 520 chain kits on our site where you can order this: www.sportbiketrackgear.com/driven-520-chain-and-sprocket-kit-yamaha-yzf-r1-15-17/ This kit will end up being a little cheaper in the end and the chain is rated a touch higher. - Van
was just on site and i see you are selling the brocks alien head for my bike for 985 and just tried to call to see how long will that sell last? I have a 2001 gsxr 1000 and will be a few weeks till i can buy it
Doing my chain and sprockets now and rewatching this video 2 seasons later. This is a man who truly loves the 2 wheel community! Always a great video to watch and he provides the best walkthrough on youtube! Appreciate how you always point out things to look out for!
Happy to hear this was helpful and thank you for watching! - Van
Good day sir I'm a 60 year old 45 years riding experience I think your content is educational I really enjoy your you can't make that s*** up it's f****** entertaining man thank you from all of us in Canada keep up the good work man
Thank you for watching and the kind words. - Van
Ordered my first ever chain and sprocket kit from you all the other day, cant wait to install it! Your videos are always so helpful when installing. Keep up the good work :)
Thank you for watching and for your business! - Van
Hi I’ve been rebuilding a 05 cbr 1000 rr. From all of your videos from the ground up. Tires. Brake calipers pad. Chain both sprockets all the tools to do it Brakes lines. Levers. Spools. Frame sliders. PCV. Unit in 10 days it will be done . It’s a beast
Happy to help out. - Van
this dudes videos are the best. very informative and well explained for the average joes out here. thanks
Thank you for watching and the kind words. - Van
Brother nice tight shirt. J/k. just ran into your videos. Especially the issues with the levers like mzs etc. THANK YOU. I’m happy to see people on this niche that does care about all Riders. I appreciate this a lot. Thank you
You are welcome and thank you for watching! - Van
Thank you for sharing your knowledge. People like you make a big difference for people like me as a do it yourself person .we all need more people like yourself in this crazy world we live in now .thank you again
Your reviews are on point. Straight forward and no bs and good info.
Thank you for watching! - Van
Just received my chain and sprocket kit from you guys! Fast shipping.
Thank you for the business! - Van
That Pitbull rear wheel chock thing looks really handy, i had a hell of a time getting my rear wheel back on by myself when i replaced my chain
Old ish video but step by step clear and precise brilliant. Thanks.
You are welcome and thank you for watching! - Van
PBR is a tough tool. Cheaper breaker and riveter kits will require grinding or filing the pin down before breaking or risk breaking the threads. Nice guide.
The PBR is my all time favorite chain tool. - Van
Thanks coach!
Your videos are the best! Thanks for everything you do 🙏
You are welcome and thank you for watching! - Van
So, for those wondering. My kit, with the Driven rear sprocket nuts, weighed 186 grams (.41 lbs) LESS than stock components. At 12,000 rpm.... I'm sure that's a big deal. 👍 And I can probably take another link out in a month or two when it breaks in.
Is that steel or aluminum?
I wish LightTech made those chain adjusters for more applications. Really nifty time-savers.
This is for sure a cool part but as you have said it is not available for every model. - Van
When pressing the plate onto the pins i always measure a link that is already riveted in place using a vernier gauge. That way i can check the plate im pressing every now and then to make sure im not over pressing it.
If you have a dial caliper you can do this. - Van
Nice job you can also use a set of calipers to put on the plates as long as they’re the same thickness and so you’ll know you have the right press I should say on the O-rings. That’s a sweet bike you got there. What did you call those chain adjusters that’s new to me? Those are bad ass! That’s always been a pain in the ass to make sure you got the rear axle exactly right and then they never make the dang marks very accurate anyway and it’s always a pain in the ass to look at it. That’s a lot more precise way to do it. Those things are just handy-dandy. Thanks for the video.
Those are the Lightech Chain Adjusters. They offer them for most common sportbikes. Here is a link to them on our site: www.sportbiketrackgear.com/lightech/?_bc_fsnf=1&Product=Chain+Adjusters
Just want to say thanks Brian you have helped me tremendously with my R1M in doing all those replacement parts... cheers big ears
No worries and thanks for watching! - Van
My OEM 2016 R6 sprocket teeth ride directly center of sprocket, has two rubber bushings inboard and outboard. The new one from this kit doesn't line up either way like stock. Closest it gets is label in like you did but like 3mm off from flush. I am assuming go for the label in?
Used calipers and yea stock measures 27.66 from crank, and logo in on new was 26.33 versus logo out 23ish. Figure I'd update this for anyone else. Newer Kits are different set up on rear sprocket too for anyone reading.
When you remove the OEM sprocket lay it on the bench with the side that the nut was on facing up. Now measure the distance from the bench to the inside of the groove closest to the bench. Now take the replacement sprocket and use this method to determine which side will give you the same spacing. It is very important the spacing from the motor to the start of the front sprocket is the same as it was with the OEM sprocket. - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear Yep I did exactly that after watching a few of your videos. Rides straight and true.
Sportbike Track Gear Wouldnt that be offset with the rear sprocket? Going from 525 to 520 i measured from mating inner surface of the rear sprocket to the centre line of rear sprocket width and its smaller seeing as its narrower (525-520), matching the front 525 front sprocket to a 520 front sprocket and making them even would put the rear sprocket out of alignment. Also, in your other video where you installed the vortex kit, you laid the oem front front on the table to match the vortex front sprocket but the oem front sprocket has a rubber dampener on it which is higher than the actual mating surface on the spline.
Just wanted your thoughts as i just bought a kit and wasnt sure which way it actually goes.
Good upclose look at a racing tire. Looks a lot different than a street tire.
Did that Snap on ratchet belong to your grandfather? My Grandfather had a set of Plumb Sockets and my Father still has them. I suffer with mostly Craftsmen but they had the Patent on the lock on button system for a long time.
These are tools I have purchased over the years myself. - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear The Snap on Guy stopped at my shop once and saw my Sears Master Mechanic set and Tool box he never came back.
I used to go to a Matco Dealers house and got a 10% discount. I see a big Truck parked at my Neighbors house. I thought it was a Beer Truck turns out she sells Tools. I need to stop and meet her. Only lives a 1/2 mile from me. I know her Gender because I asked another neighbor who just sold 3 lots. He is a retired builder .. I said I suppose there will be three houses there soon. He said No he sold them to the Gal next door who has a couple of cows.. They are making it into a hay field
I'm think about getting the RK 520 OEM version for my ninja 300. I'll have to get it done at the shop, I don't have the rivet gun.
This is the type of project you should take to a licensed technician if you are not comfortable doing it yourself. - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear I'm fine, just didn't have the tool lol
No joke that stand for the wheel is god tier 💪📈. Makes it so much damn easier
The Pit Bull Pit Crew Tire Wedge is one of my favorite tools for sure. - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear thanks for the vids man! I got into riding street bikes some years back but just recently got more into the mechanic side of things. And all your videos helped me out big time! Just finished a engine swap, and this specific video helped me with the chain. 💪🔥📈
You are the man. I wish shipping to Sweden vas duty free🥺 then I would definitely purchase my stuff from you.much love
Thank you for watching and the kind words! - Van
Great tutorial, and advise as always, thanks Brian.
Thanks for watching. Video Steve does an awesome job of making me look like I know what I am doing! - Van
I'm still fighting to get the counter spocket off my 2019 zx10r they must have used lock tight or hulk to tighten it down from the factory 🤷♂️
Use an impact if you have one available to you. - Van
If you want to go faster on the Track would you not use a "non O-Ring" chain as all those little rubber o-rings create friction?
You should use an o-ring chain on the track for sure. - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear ja ja ja .. can see you are fanatical about keeping your R-1 clean. I have never ridden on a track. One of your Employees told me about an upcoming track day at Gratten raceway. I have looked at off the shelf Leather suits, but I am so short and stocky that none of them fit plus I am working on loosing 20 more pounds. I had a washboard stomach for years but now. I plan to visit your store in person to try the suits on.
I have a Yamaha FZ-07 Replaced the Original Brigstone Battle axe rear tire at 8,500 miles. It was down to the steel cords. The Michellene Road Pilot IV is much hard in the middle does not stop as well and spins in the wet more than the Brimstone did.
My Original chain and sprockets are still in great shape @ 9,500 miles my black rear wheel is covered in chain grease however.
I had the chain off the bike once when I changed the tire. I soaked it in mineral spirts. As I teen ager I soaked chains in diesel fuel them oiled them with #30 engine oil from an oil can. Bel-Ray chain oil has molly in it and seems to hold on longer or and give you some dry lube.
I wanted to purchase a Pit Bull wheel wedge. Can't order online and forgot to ask the guy who helped me place an order if you had one in stock. I ordered the Pro Motion chain tool still not sure the difference between the two models you sell one for $94 and one for $97.00
The cup around the axle nut, is for what reason? I assume it is to protect the axle nut in case you go down. Forgive me for my ignorance but I have been out the motorcycle loop for almost 8 years. I’m back now and love your channel. Keep them videos coming.
This one is pretty much for looks to be honest. In a racing application a cup like this will be used to help make the tire change faster and easier. This would be used in endurance racing like the Daytona 200. - Van
Great step by step video Brian. I can do now the same with my bike.... ) Thanks again
You are welcome and thanks for watching! - Van
Hey brother! Perfect video, but how would you recommend taking that fromt sprocket off if the wheel is already off?
Use an impact gun if the wheel is already off. - Van
Man love the information you give on installation and products. Cant wait to visit store have a huge wish list lol
Thanks for watching! Look forward to having you come out and see us. - Van
10:43 Safety tip when tightening your sprocket you should always tighten with a crisscross pattern otherwise it will be attached uneven
In the video I show that exact process. When you are initially running the nuts down to where they just start to touch the sprocket you can do that in any pattern you like. The criss cross pattern should be used when you apply final torque. - Van
+Brian..
Sir: just want to say your videos are Awesome. ! if anyone sees theses and can't do the work themselves.. they shouldn't be workin on a Motorcycle. ! you Explain everything so we'll, great tone in your voice.. and point out specific bullet points, for things to check. Well done. ! I just wish you were working on a ZX14R SE. LOL I want those chain adjusters for my cycle but can't get them. dang it all. ! they don't make them for my machine. !??
Such a awesome channel !!!!!!!!!! thank you for all the great videos man
Appreciate that and thank you for watching! - Brian Van
Do you really have to take off the axle adjuster bracket to avoid the wheel speed sensor getting damaged?
I know you broke the chain at the master but didn’t you shove that enlarged pin through the inner link that the master goes through making that inner link not usable?? Or am I missing something??
When you break the chain to set the length it does not damage the chain. You are forcing the head of the rivet against the outer plate which gets discarded. - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear I understand, is the inner of the link a larger diameter or something?? Just trying to fully understand. It’s been a while since I’ve had to do one but will be installing a new chain on my R1 soon.
Nice one idol!!.. keep it up.. im really excited to have this kind of machine that push u to the limit.. and i cant wait much longer ... Im really love this bike.. tnx for mods, lots of idea.. god bless idol.. ride safe..
Thanks for watching! - Van
Big fan of this Channel. I have a 2015 FJ-09. Went down one tooth (16-15) front sprocket, stock 110 link chain still worked.
Went up 5 in the rear (45-50) and stock chain is too short now.
I have a new 120 link chain I need to cut.
My question is; is there a dead nuts algorithm/formula to figure how many links I need to match my new 15/50 setup that was 16/45?
And where is the best place on the swing arm to put it? Shorter, middle or longer wheel base?
You can use chain length to set your wheelbase. Wheel base will affect handling of the bike. Shorter will transfer weight to the back easier (wheelie) and steer a little faster. Longer will keep the bike a little more balanced under acceleration and keep the bike a little more stable. When in doubt just put it in the middle. - Van
Awesome video! From start to finish! It´s a shame i live in Argentina and can´t buy so many tools you show that are not available here...
Thank you for watching! - Van
Can you really tell a difference on the direction of the front sprocket? I couldn't tell which way to install it.
You need to lay the OEM sprocket on a flat surface with the side that was facing the engine down. Now take the aftermarket sprocket and find the side of the sprocket that will have the same size gap between the table and the inside of the sprocket. Install which ever side lines up facing the engine. - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear Good point thanks! Second question, how can you tell the sprocket is wrong once its on the bike lol Everything does seem to line up perfectly. Is it possible it could look and sound perfect but not be right?
I’ve read so many people torquing to spec and end up stripping or breaking the bolts/nuts.
I used the same front sprocket theory for my driven 520 kit on my 2006 Gsxr 1000. Put both sprockets on a socket and the teeth meshed perfectly so I put the sprocket exactly like that onto the counter shaft with the shoulder facing in for that case so both front sprockets had the same distance from the engine. When I got everything on, when I went to adjust the chain, the rear aduster block ticks were like 3 marks separate aiming the rear wheel way to the left. I read the forums and motomummy swears that the front sprocket shouldn't be the same distance as the original (should sit closer to the engine) because the rear is thinner and the front needs to compensate by being closer to the engine as well. I switched the front sprocket around so the white lettering and shoulder was facing out and then the rear wheel alignment seemed much more accurate. Any opinion on this? I only ask because what seemed to correct my problem goes against what you say here in the video. I'm trying to gather my facts before I hit the road.
being that the rivet tool has such a small handle would it be wise to use an adjustable wrench to give you more leverage?
If you feel you need to use that to get a good result then go for it. Lot's of tool combos that will work with this tool. - Van
Awesome video! Hey why did you leave the smaller piece in the back of the riveting tool on there and never used it? I think it’s for pushing pins out.
You need to place that block in the position for the job you are doing. In this case it supports the rivet link while you are riveting it in place. - Van
Awesome video, Van , you the man!! love it
Appreciate that and thank you for watching! - Van
what about Yamalube Molybdenum grease on the splines of the output shaft?
I have changed a lot of countershaft sprockets and never applied any grease to the splines. - Van
has anyone here ever had a master link not want to rivet? Im using the stockton chain tool kit. Everything went smoothly, the link is pressed to the proper measurement...i just cant get the hollow ends to rivet
I have never had that happen. I have been using the Motion Pro PBR Chain Tool 08-0470 for several seasons now and it works great. Here is a link to it on our site: www.sportbiketrackgear.com/motion-pro-pbr-chain-tool-08-0470/ - Van
@sportbike track gear is there a set up for a 2001 r1 that will gain acceleration and top end speed current stock set up is 16/43 with a 114 chain link and 530 pitch
It is a one or the other thing. If you gear it for faster acceleration you will lose some top end. Gearing it for more top end you will lose a little acceleration. - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear yup thank you. ii had to really do my homework with this gearing stuff,first time gearing a bike so went with your advice in your video. my 2001 r1 is stock 16/43 and i went to your site and got the 16/45
I just bought the chain in this video for my sport bikes my question some scenarios i would need the Motion Pro Quad-Stake Rivet Kit for?
Motion Pro PBR Chain Tool 08-0470
www.sportbiketrackgear.com/motion-pro-pbr-chain-tool-08-0470/
These are on backorder now but should be in very soon. - Van
2017 Yamaha R1 - Doing a 520 and quick acceleration conversion with Driven sprockets and EK 3D chain from STG. just a couple of things I am unsure off before I place my order. I am thinking -1/+1 or maybe -1/0 any suggestion's?
I mainly was thinking +1 rear in order to get the alu sprocket.
These bikes have so much power I feel like +2 in the rear is plenty. We are using the EK 3D chain on our MotoAmerica Supersport bike and love it. - Van
What Handy lift do you have?
I am not sure, this is an older model we bought from a shop that was closing down. - Van
Should have used a mic on an alread pressed link then press the master to the same depth
and you use the micrometer to measure the rivet mushroom process to others
I'm changing my drivetrain on my 450 sumo. Going up 2 teeth on the rear. 112 links on now. Do I need to add any links for that upgrade? Thanks in advance!
I have never installed a chain kit on a 450 supermoto so I am not familiar with how many links. - Van
Great video! Something every newbie will want to know how to do! Keep'em coming!
A hammock strap thats wrapped to the swingarm. its my method to keep the rear in place.
Not a bad idea. - Van
What Handy lift is that?
I am not sure, this is an older model we bought from a shop that was closing down. - Van
Great video just ordered one for my R1 🤙🏾
Thanks for the business! - Van
I have a 2014 Yamaha R1 that I bought used a couple of months ago. The place I purchased it from kept their bikes outside so I finally got around to ordering a RK gold chain with black steel sprocket and -1 tooth in the front. Im in Atlanta and went to Mountain Motorsports in Conyers. The guy that worked there said dont do aluminum for the street so I took his advice. I have a question though. Should I go ahead and remove the chain gaurd when I get the new kit installed? Some ppl say yes some say no I have one day to decide lol
Damn I want that tire wedge. such a good idea from pitbull!
Over the years they have introduced some kick ass products for sure. - Van
I need 1!!
great job explaining everything! i would just add one more step, when adjusting chain slack i start by rotating wheel and find the tightest spot in the chain and adjust slack from there so when it gets to the tightest spot it's not to tight. might be overkill it's just something that's made sense? thank's for vids
In a perfect world the chain slack should be the same through a full rotation. If it varies while rotating there is an issue with the chain or one of the sprockets. - Van
i guess every bike i own or owned or worked on in my nearly 60 years has a issue with the chain or sprocket, i have never seen one that did not have a clear variance in slack?
If you were to use driven aluminum sprocket nuts on a steel sprocket, the manual says 44ftlbs.. But driven is only 29ftlbs.. How Does that work?
The Driven Sprocket Nuts are aluminum, the manual is assuming you are using the OEM nuts. Very important to use the torque spec Driven has on the nuts. - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear so 29ftlbs is fine for a steel sprocket?
Can you tell us the torque spec for that and a 03 gsxr 750
If you need torque specs I would do a quick Google search. I do not remember these off the top of my head. - Van
How come there are two sensors on the shift rod for the quickshifter ? I don't think I've seen that before.
Great video. Very thorough and professional.
You guys should do a difficulty scale using beer. For example if its tedious itll would be a 5 beer lol. I just remembered the video with Van drinking
Dane A good idea
Hey Brian. I can't get my counter sprocket nut to break loose. Have my breaker bar, and have my pry bar in the rear wheel. But I still cannot get it to break loose. Do you have any suggestions for a stubborn counter sprocket nut? I put almost my whole body weight on it and no go.
You can also use an impact if you need to. Not the first choice but you can use that for sure. - Van
which would be a better kit, a 520 or a 525 for a 2018 BMW s1000rr. Cheers
525 will last longer for the street and 520 is a nice option for the track considering the reduced weight. If longevity is your desire for sure the 525 is the way to go. - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear thanks for the info
Do you have a link to those stands, please?
Here is a link to the Pit Bull Stands on our site: www.sportbiketrackgear.com/pit-bull/ - Van
Have a recommendation for a sprocket that increases top speed?
If you want to increase the top speed with a front sprocket change you will need to install a front that had a higher tooth count than the sprocket you currently have on the bike. Important to note that there are some physical limitations as to how big of a countershaft sprocket you can install which will vary from bike to bike. - Van
How freely should the rear wheel spin? If i spinn my wheel by hand it will almost turn 360. never reflect about that before but just put new sprockets and chain on it, just worry about if it is wrong. front wheel will spinn a lot easier
There is a lot more drag on the rear wheel than there is on the front. In between each link there are o rings that generate friction and resistance so it is normal for the rear wheel to not spin as freely as the front. Make sure your chain is properly aligned, slack is adjusted and the chain is lubricated. Doing this will minimize the drag created by the chain. - Brian Van
So I just ordered a chain and sprocket kit it says there are 120 links but I need 118 links 45 rear 17 front was it cut down to size before it was sent to me?
Also when I ordered it it said 98-14 r1 but when it was sent to me it changed to 09-14 r1 the bolts seem like they line up but why would it change to 09 are sprockets/chains interchangeable between 98-14 models?
Any chain you purchase will need to be cut to fit your bike and the gearing you are running. 120 links is the most common length for a sportbike chain. - Van
The Yamaha R1 uses the same front and rear sprockets from 1998-2014. - Van
I know you ALWAYS say to check the chain after that first ride or session at the track, and my chain gained about 1/4 of a inch of slack with all bolts still tight. Is that really normal? I tried googling it, but not getting a straight forward answer
It is not uncommon for the chain to stretch right out of the gate. Adjust it and make sure you do not over tighten the chain. If there is not enough slack it is very hard on the chain, sprockets and trans. - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear thank you !
Would you say there is no need to go up two in the back when you go down one on the front ?
Really depends on what you want. One down in the front and 2 up in the rear is pretty aggressive IMO. I would do one or the other myself. - Van
can someone point me in the direction of one of those adjustable tire wedges? Not finding anything on amazon
Pit Bull Pit Crew Tire Wedge
www.sportbiketrackgear.com/pit-bull-pit-crew-tire-wedge/
To order Pit Bull products please 1.888.784.4327 or email orders@sportbiketrackgear.com. At this time we are unable to sell Pit Bull online but we are able to sell it over the phone, email or in our local showroom.
@@sportbiketrackgear THank you
i have 2018 r1 wanna do 520 kit on so i wanna do the 520 driven steel sprocket kit and then looking with 520 rk max z chain, will that chain be good enough, bike will be aroind 190 191 hp to the wheel
The chain will come in 120 links and you will need to trim it to the length that works best for you and the sprocket combo you are running. This will allow you to set the wheel base where you prefer it as well. - Van
Brian, what brand do you recommend the most? I have tried a few different brands, but sometimes quality changes over the years with certain manufacturers. I know you sell all the major brands and I value your opinion. Going to be purchasing a set soon. thanks
I have the same chain kit but I went -1 +2 520 how many links do I need to take off lmk thanks geat video
This chain kit came with the chain pre cut to proper length for this bike and sprockets. I do not remember how many links it had, just know I did not have to remove any links on it. The Driven/RK and Vortex Chain Kits typically come with the chain ready to go. Thanks for watching! - Van
I ordered a kit for my Aprilia (from STG). I should have got this chain rivet tool with it. 🤦♂️.
Appreciate the order! - Van
I know he said if you want use a proper torque specs but I’d say anyone who is your average biker DIY kinda guy should absolutely be using a torque wrench and look up your bikes service manual to find proper torque specs ! I’ve found it crucial while doing work on my own bike to follow the service manual torque values and also whether or not to add thread locker or not some bolts require it some don’t and both decision are for a reason ! I’ve had a hell of a time stripping out small bolts I applied threadlocker to and also the opposite losing parts in the freeway for not applying threadlocker ! Follow your service manual it’ll save you money and time !
For sure if you do not feel comfortable or have the necessary experience you should buy a service manual and use a torque wrench. - Van
I'm sure there are torque specs for that new rear sprocket🤔
I do not use a torque wrench on items I do not feel it is necessary. If you are not comfortable working without a torque wrench Google the specs and use one. - Van
why not put it in 1st gear 4:10
Chance of bending shift forks
What brand paddock stand do you use?
We use Pit Bull and Woodcraft stands on all of our bikes. - Van
great video worth the time watching for sure keep up the good work
Hey Brian i have an fz 8. Standard sprocket ratio is 16 / 46. Id like to improve gas mileage so looking to add a tooth to the drive sprocket and drop one tooth on the rear. How can you calculate whether this will affect the amount of links you need in a new chain to fit the new ratio
I personally rarely count the links when I set the wheelbase on the bike. Depending on where you rear axle is now in the adjustment range you may be able to make this change without changing the chain. If you rear axle is towards the front of the adjustment range now you will most likely need a new chain. When installing a new chain you want to get the wheel base somewhere in the middle of the range on most bikes.
The FX8 comes with a 122 link chain from the factory. If you plan to replace the chain you will need to order one that is longer than the 122 so you are able to set the wheelbase up correctly during the install. The most common length is 120 links. From there every brand seems to manage the longer length in different increments. Some have 130 where others jump right to 150. - Van
So when removing the master link you don’t have to grind the pins down ? I’ve seen several others grind/tell me I need to grind the pins down before pushing them out and with this tool do you have to do that or no ?
I never grind the pins down, just use the Motion Pro PBR Chain Tool and break them. - Van
Sportbike Track Gear thanks for the reply! Bought a chain and sprocket kit and working on changing out the old stuff and didn’t know if I could just get the tool or if I needed to grind the pins too
Just get the Motion Pro PBR Chain Tool, this is the best one I have ever used. I have changed a ton of chains with the one I have in my box. Here is a link: www.sportbiketrackgear.com/motion-pro-pbr-chain-tool-08-0470/ - Van
Where can we buy that masterlink chain tool ???
Here is a link to the Motion Pro PBR Chain Tool on our site: www.sportbiketrackgear.com/motion-pro-pbr-chain-tool-08-0470/
Whats the red adjuster on the axle called and where can I get on
That is a Lightech Chain Adjuster. Here is a link to them on our site: www.sportbiketrackgear.com/lightech/?_bc_fsnf=1&Product=Chain+Adjusters - Van
What do you think about pre-stretched chains ?
Chain will stretch with use which is why you need to maintain the drive train on the bike. - Van
Can you reuse us master links or do you need to replace them
You will need a new rivet style master link each time you need to break the chain on your sportbike as they are only able to be used one time. Once they have been riveted on they can not be reused. - Van
What if there's a gap on the inside of the chain where it's already shroomed? Master link is the same width as the rest of the links though
Please try to be a little more specific if you can. We have another video where we focus on the rivet link you can find on this page here: www.sportbiketrackgear.com/520-chain-and-sprocket-kit-guide/
Take a look at the Motion Pro Chain Tool Video, this should help get you dialed in. - Brian Van
Question.... Without checking myself anf just really being lazy... I'll ask you.
I got the 520 conversion kot from vortex and om -1 +2.... I watched you just install this and made me think about when I put my front sproket on that i cany remember if I did my front sprocket on correct.... I heard you say the letters go (INWARD) made me look at mine and I can read the numbers and what not on my front sprocket. The factory sprocket is the exact same on both sides. I did not match yhe gears prior to install either.... The only gopd new is that i have been to the track woth it yet so just wonder if you know about the vortex sprockets and whoch way they are to be installed?? Also. On my link.... While mushrooming the rivets I took my digital caliper and ended up running the front side of the link on litterally .003 different from the rear rivet. In your opinion, shoupd I replace the rivet and get them EXACT same or whats your thoughts on both my concerns???
Thanks in advance for your help
That is a very minor difference in the rivet, you should be fine with that as long as they are both expanded enough. As for the front sprocket the letters are not intended to dictate sprocket installation. You need to install the front sprocket so the spacing from the end of the counter shaft on the new sprocket is the same as the OEM one that you removed. Look at it link an imaginary line from the end of the counter shaft to the surface of the cush drive the sprocket rests on. This line has to be straight for the drive train to function properly. - Van
Just ordered this kit and some other go fast stuff for my ZX10R. Damn, are those lightech chain tensioners that easy to adjust or big ass dude makes these look that easy? I'll probably be needing a set of those and that chain tool....
The Lightech Chain adjusters are pretty bad ass for sure. I have run them on the last 2 bikes I have owned and feel they are worth the money and then some. The Motion Pro PBR chain tool is the best one I have used, have had the same one for the last few years, zero issues. - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear thank you so much for the reply. 👍
Thanks for the video mate! Just wondering if the threads on the countershaft are threaded when you put the nut back on, then how hard is it to replace the countershaft?!
Replacing the counter shaft is no picnic. What it takes to get this done really depends on the bike in question. - Van
Cheers Van, turns out it wasn't cross threaded...it was just a little sticky going on. After a few turns she went on smoothly! Whew! Looking forward to seeing your new R6 project bike, should be heaps of fun for everyone!
I found a little motor oil on the counter shift could the seal be bad?
Why did you go from Aluminium to a steel sprocket STG??
That was what was included in the kit we were showcasing. End of the day the 520 steel sprockets are a nice option as they will last longer than aluminum and are lighter than the OEM steel sprockets to save a little weight. - Van
Another great video, thanks!
You are welcome and thanks for watching! - Van
Hello i have a 2003 kawasaki z1000 what would you recommend sprockets for quick acceleration. Thanks
What the hell happened to that rear tire? It looks like it melted.
This bike was being ridden only on the race track which is where the wear on the edges came from. The wear in the center was from a burnout. - Van
Thank you for the vid! When do you think will have the gold on stock again? ready to order now also the light techc adjusters as of 5.4.19
You're welcome and thanks for watching. I just checked the site and they are available to order today in gold. Here is a link to them on our site: www.sportbiketrackgear.com/lightech-chain-adjusters-yamaha-yzf-r1-15-17/
Sorry,. realized you were looking at the chain kit in gold. This should be available around the 15th of May. I would recommend going with the RK MAX-X Chain in gold with the same sprockets in this kit. Here is a link to the custom Driven 520 chain kits on our site where you can order this: www.sportbiketrackgear.com/driven-520-chain-and-sprocket-kit-yamaha-yzf-r1-15-17/
This kit will end up being a little cheaper in the end and the chain is rated a touch higher. - Van
Is the dash still be accurate after this kit is installed?
was just on site and i see you are selling the brocks alien head for my bike for 985 and just tried to call to see how long will that sell last? I have a 2001 gsxr 1000 and will be a few weeks till i can buy it