How to install a dump hoist: Premium Supply ph520 8 ton Dump hoist
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AS OF 2019 WE NO LONGER INSTALL OR RECOMMEND THE PURCHASE OF PREMIUM SUPPLY HOISTS. UNFORTUNATELY, THE EQUIPMENT HAS ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS SHOWN THE TENDENCY TO FAIL UNDER AN EVEN OR UNEVEN LOAD. THE MANUFACTURER HAS REFUSED TO COVER THE EQUIPMENT UNDER WARRANTY INCLUDING THE POWER UNIT AND HOIST. WE ONLY INSTALL RUGBY DUMP HOISTS WHICH ARE LARGER, HEAVIER DUTY, AND ARE BACKED BY A CUSTOMER SERVICE TEAM THAT HONORS THEIR WARRANTY.
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Questions?
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YOU WILL NEED
A quality welder: do not try to do this install with your tiny flux core welder it won’t work
Steel cutting equipment to cut raw material
Many people or a forklift for safety and loading
Tape measure and squares for checking fitment
Tarps for protecting your vehicle
COMMON SENSE! Or fabricators common sense!
This is a super Simple install a lot of people think they’re capable of it but unfortunately fall short
If you think you can’t do it on your own PAY SOMEONE GOOD MONEY TO DO IT!
It’s your own fault if you pay someone poorly and they do a poor job
Good luck out there! - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
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Great video!!! Looks built to last. Wish you were in Florida. I need 3 trucks re done
For the extra $8 everyone should pony up for a set of Grade 8 Bolts, because... trucks have wheels and can find themselves relocated to different climates. Please don't encourage anyone to use a soft bolt for no real reason, even if they live in Vegas or Albuquerque. Thanks for the excellent vid.
You’re right! Although grade 5 is fine we actually almost exclusively use grade 8 bolts at this time. This video is so old so I haven’t watched it in years. But hey everyone is trying to save a buck
I got my truck done here. They really did a good job. I recommended. Got an f550.
how much did this run you for parts & labor all together?
@@cws0228 at least 5000 hydralic unit can cost around 3000 and he charges around 2000
Thank you! Remember you can always transfer your equipment in the event of an accident or your truck needs to be replaced.
Great video I found this information so helpful i start my small landscaping business and I work hard to buy a 2007 chevy 2500hd with 29,000 k miles rust free i buy a nice aluminum flat bed and a hoist and hydraulic pump everything to turn it to a dump .. i bring it to a guy that said that can do the work he is supposed to do the sides and back gate for 5,000 k he was supposed to finish last week i call and texted him didn't answer today he finally answered is not done he sent me one 1 pictures of what he had done and is not looking good 😕 like you said back yard welder very disappointed 😞
I’m sorry to hear that! But I hope you got it fixed and are back making money. Good luck!
Great video, I have a f450 with a 9ft bed but the bed is rusted out. I can get a 10ft aluminum bed for a good price. Do you know if I can mount the 10ft bed on the truck without any issues as far as overhang or anything like that. Thanks.
Quick question: at what angle does the hoist has to be to install it and where exactly on the chassis frame got be ? Great video by the way
There are different locations: further forward more capacity higher angle or farther back lower angle lower capacity. Every hoist comes with a manual that will explain how to calculate this value. Good luck!
What type of wood did you use for the frame?
Pine
Very nice video. I have a 95 Chevy Cheyenne that I need to install that hydraulic lift. I will drop by your shop so we can do some business. Thanks.
@@CompleteTruckBody I need this done to a early 2000's izuzu work truck. it currently has a flat bed. It would need to be removed then fabricate a new bed on top of the ram like shown in this video. How much would that cost after parts & labor? I would like the same Premium supply 8 ton hoist as well. thanks.
@@cws0228 feel free to contact us direct anytime 323-218-4994
Feel free to contact us anytime
Would it be possible to go in to more detail about how to figure out exactly where to mount it to the frame of the truck? You talked about how you had to put the spacers in to prevent the top of the hoist from protruding through the top of the frame. But how do you figure out how high those spacers need to be?
www.rugbymfg.com/service-support/manuals/truck-hoists/223-lr26c-lr623-lr28a-lr2355-non-subframe/file
Here’s the link from Rugby concerning the location of where to mount the hoist from back of cab.
As for the height you would measure the entire height of the hoist you have and then measure your space between frame and floor of truck. So if your hoist height is 10” and you current height between frame and bottom of floor is 5” you’ll need to add in a 5” mount tube as a spacer. You’ll need to trim a crossmmeber or two to fit the hoist in since it slopes.
Hope this helps!
Is there a distributed you’d recommend to order from? There are 0 within 500 miles of me
@@perfectenough6620 when it comes to Rugby they only sell to distributors who usually only sell and install they don’t sell loose. You can opt for a premium supply which ships from texas but my only issue has been quality over time. Other brands you can get online are usually very low quality and I wouldn’t recommend
Great video!!!! How come you use the wood? Is it better than steel?
It avoids metal to metal contact when not necessary
We purchased a grain truck and it will not lift haft of the 600 bushel load it was supposed to be rated for. After looking at it more closely, they might have swapped the hoses. When you say, "here is the side (the port that is closest to the chromed ram), does that mean that this port is supposed to be connected directly to the pump? This truck has the pump connected directly to the low side.
The two ports act on the two sides of the piston in the cylinder. (It's fairly common to use double acting cylinders in single acting applications, the other side of the cylinder should be plumbed back to the reservoir to keep it dry, personally I put some fluid in there to lube the seals). Hooking the hose on the wrong side of the cylinder would make it retract....... Your setup is just not strong enough for the load. Swapping a larger bore cylinder will increase the lift capacity BUT the rest of the bed and the scissors assembly needs to be able to handle it, or something will just break, with possible injury to property or life. This is something that needs to be addressed by someone with knowledge of dump beds, systems etc.
I had previously replaced to this but my comments disappeared. The other commenter replied with a thorough explanation!
@@jasonsprouse2803 good write up!
it will be ok to put the hinges like 4 chinches away from suspention to make bed smaller like 11 feet to install dump bed in an npr hd?
It’s possible to put the hinges closer but you want to avoid being too close to the suspension. Keep the frame sturdy
I have an Isuzu npr, that has a 14’ dump bed, but it currently is only lifting to about 20 degrees, it is a dual cylinder underbody lift, can anything or the lift be relocated to get closer to a 45 degree dump angle?
@@CompleteTruckBody Thank you, I was looking at it closer today, and figured out the pump is actually running out of fluid, they had just put a new pump on it before I purchased it, apparently the capacity of the reservoir is too small, the scissor hoist is 10 ton, and it has twin cylinders, the stroke was 10" and I added a little more fluid and got it to 11", and the hoist still isn't fully extended, the current pumps reservoir is 7"x7"x13" not sure of the capacity, but researching it seems to be about 10 quart, would you know how many quart it would take for this hoist? I wish I could just bring it by and let you check it out, unfortunately I am in KY. I would truly appreciate any help and info you could give me, your video is awesome with great detail, I watched several, and almost everyone else welds to the frame lol, and unfortunately mine is welded also, so now I need to find someone to fix it and bolt it down, should I cut off the welds or can I just add plates to bolt it down?
I got the measurements today, the outside of the 2 cylinders measure 5 1/2" and 28" long, the center ram measures about 2". Thanks for any help you can give,
@@TheMrcHilton you got the write idea. I’ve seen people use fuel tanks as hydraulic tanks when huge volume is needed
Question: i see that you use 2 batteries, what was the system you use for the hydraulic pump on the batteries??? The electric connection , the wires connection?
@@CompleteTruckBody I'm thinking of upgrading my power steering pump and using that to drive the hydraulic cylinder. Is that a bad idea?
The hydraulic pump is connected to the trucks OE battery. The dual batteries is because most diesel trucks in the US need two 12vs.
@@kevincorapi137 I don’t think it’s a great idea because it’s not rated for this application. You can get a clutch pump to perform this application.
Have any of these been inspected by the dmv?
The dmv in California does not inspect dump truck installs. The DOT and CHP have inspected and cleared the installs as sufficient.
Have you ever mounted one of these backwards? In other words spun 180 degrees from how these in the video are.
Yes we have when the issue is componentes blocking regular mounting backward mounting is totally valid
Although it was my only options at times, i have done some gnarley shit with a millermatic 140 😂
Yeah!!
Hey what's up I would like u to help me .? with the dump where u buy it from
You can buy these cheaper Chinese hoists on eBay or Amazon
Nice I have a 24 ft gmc c5500 that I need a dump on
Hopefully it's going well and you got the dump you needed! Sorry about the late reply
Little 110 welders wont penetrate safely if using those I'd preheat the thicker material till light shade of blue before welding or at the very least clean down to bare metal tripple pass if you see what looks like a hairline crack along the weld it didn't equally penetrate
@@CompleteTruckBody I used to work for Wheeler/Viking building DOT trucks I had a Lincoln 140 that would do it but I've seen cheaper welders that no matter what wasn't up to the task in those situations stick welding is the best option I still use my old Airco 220 AC welder 6011 for heavy rust when I don't have access to grinding equipment. Another tip if you have a wire feed welder with feeding issues get a serrated wheel my Hobart 185 had constant problems till that was suggested to me
Good technique! A lot of people only have access to 110V welders so anything helps
@@a-75n5lee4 serrated wheels are totally worth the money
What the typical cost of install on a ford f550 2007 5 to 8 ton hoist.
Hello! Please send us an email for pricing inquiries
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Lincoln tombstone for heavy fab!
Yeah!
How much was the pump and everything?
Complete Truck Body Repair Inc to
Thanks brotha!
I need a 3 tons truck with the dump system;any available? Thanks
Hello yes feel free to reach out to our office 323-218-0989
Do you have a video of that "tow package" installed
Not a video, but we have photos on our instagram @completetruck
Why is it you guys can't weld frame flanges but. Allows custom hot rod frames that are Fab out of different frames put together and welded?
*but DOT allows
The DOT doesn’t restrict who what when how can weld and cut into frames. The DOT can slap you with a hefty fine for operating your vehicle with a cracked frame due to overheating or poor workmanship which in turns leads to a lawsuit where you customer wants restitution for damaging their vehicle.
So it’s kinda like you’re “not allowed” to work on electrical or construction at your own home when it’s really about safety and liability.
@@CompleteTruckBody okay, so you guys are just not welding the flanges to protect your liability. It can be done safely that requires professionals and the proper equipment. I don't know the laws in California for construction or electrical but in other states you actually are allowed to work on your own house and you can disclose that to at the sale of that house but it does need to be permitted which means it gets an inspection. I know you guys are pretty strict over there so maybe that's not allowed. Thanks!
@@danielbuckner2167 welding onto flanges most of the time is avoidable anyway. We fab whole new frames and crossmembers for trucks all the time but in the video we discourage DIYers from getting involved in a more technical aspect as we often see people weld anything and everything to their trucks weakening it over time. Check out Instagram for photos of the various repairs that come in! @completetruck
The construction bit is just an example some people work on their own home, but in many instances we recommend leaving it to professionals lest it turn your home into a “buyers special”
@@CompleteTruckBody I definitely agree with you on hiring a professional for your home. It's one of the biggest purchases people ever making their entire life! Good to know you guys are safety conscious on your truck builds.
Do you have a shop were are you can you do it to my truck
@@CompleteTruckBody how can i get in touch withyou
Yes
Compton California
323-218-4994
Sales@completetruckbody.com
Hello how are you guys- I have a 2000 GMC/ISUZU 4500 NPR 5.7engine- 16ft boxI live in the Chicago Illinois area- I'm interested in having my box converted into a dump- does anyone no or recommend any shops that does this type of work within a 100 mile radius of Chicago??????
Hello Jonathan
Thank you for reaching out. Unfortunately we are not familiar with anyone in the area who can perform this work
Jonathan, try Illinois Truck Center in Elk Grove. I worked there a long time ago and they put bodies on quite often. They might still be an Isuzu dealer to boot.
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why not go with trunnion mount
It’s just not common here in Los Angeles
Can you tell us the price of the Kit ?
Premium supply sells them online and on Amazon. We no longer install premium supply hoists as the quality control has been less than ideal.
We strictly distribute and install Rugby Hoists now
Buen trabajo👍
Gracias señor!
how do u measure overhang?
Just measure from the frame to where the bed is. 12”, 18”, 24” that’s your overhang
You just measure how long beyond the subframe of body is from the chassis.
Y cómo te puedo contactar.?
Me puedes marcar o mandar un email
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323-218-4994 Roberto
Chevy 3500 12 x8 price dump hoist price
Contact us direct for pricing 323-218-4994 sales@completetruckbody.com
What’s you think about a 24v pump instead of 12v ?
The benefits don't outweigh to unconventional use.
It looks like the hoist is to way back close to the cab, it may not go over 40 degrees to dump debris easily,
The hoist it’s a 10 ton
The 8 ton it’s the 516 hoist
Complete Truck Body Repair Inc I just got my ph520 today. I would like your opinion since you are more familiar with this power hoist. I think it was built wrong. I could be wrong too but I will post some pictures and let you know my concerns.
We have since installed over 500 hoists and have had no issues with install location
@@JLFLC24 you’re welcome to send us photos anytime robert@completetruckbody.com
But it's electric. ... why no pto
Electric is better
Overkill in most applications. Much higher cost.
@@rigocarranza2617 it can be
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Can u build me a NRP dump truck ?
Yes we can