Correction @ 1:23: The ProRes Raw is not external. That was a slip of the tongue that I'm used to saying. Both flavors of raw are internal on this camera.
@@skymakai Far from it, I see the movement in the other direction: RED getting features that were not part of a cinema camera before. The dynamic range of RED cameras is outstanding.
Tho in all fairness this is not the „squeezing some more juice out“ kinda update, which are usually the result of an afterthought, but one that unlocked features which were intended to be in the camera from the very beginning and just weren‘t completed for the release
Just waiting (hoping) for Sony to step up their game when it comes to firmware updates and continuous improvements like we know from smartphones or similar. In all honesty I find Sony to fall behind Canon and Nikon when it comes to firmware updates. What do you think?
@@flashforum939 I do agree and that's more obvious recently when even top of the line cameras like A1, A7siii and either FX3 haven't got any level of a decent firmware update yet and a7siii is out for almost a couple of years now! Sony has turned from a good player to a very bad player recently and it seems they care more about influencer than their real customers! Nikon is doing exactly the opposite, even giving firmware updates to their old DSLR camera users. This trust making manner will lead to more major upgrades from loyal users, but what Sony is doing is rather persuading you to switch brand instead of upgrading your current model! They did the exact same shit with apsc lineup. No real improvement on a6500/a6300 and they only tried to convince you to buy the newer generation while the upgraded features were so marginal.
What can I say other than WOW. Nikon has delivered the holy grail of firmware updates for mirrorless video. Congrats to Nikon. The Z9 is now the bleeding edge for prosumer video. 👏
Ain't gonna trust Nikon even if they come with 15 true Arri levels stops of DR, LOL. They screwed their customers over with the introduction of Z6/Z7 that were put out on the shelves with horrible autofocus to a point where you'd think they were selling beta-stage bodies to early adopters. Yes, they brought a decent firmware update in that regard 2 YEARS LATER, but what about those who initially bought it as proud Nikon fans? It doesn't matter what Nikon does; I'll always take what they offer with a grain of salt. Also, their lens lineup isn't as special as Canons per se.
@@ramonarias1234 *facepalm*, stating actually googable facts means "hating" to you? There's a ton of videos showcasing how bad the AF is on the early Z6/Z7 models and that's about their so called eye-AF mode. Manny Ortiz, Jared Polin, etc. they all tested and stated the same outcomes. I also had my hands on them a lot of times and it just wasn't on Sony's level, not even on Canon's who joined the mirrorless world later. Staying objective isn't your thing i guess. Let me reverse your quote and make it more factual: "we found the authentical example of a fanboy here"
Exactly what I'v been saying all along : NIKON HAS NO HIGHER VIDEO CAMERAS MODELS TO PROTECT !!! AND THAT’S THEIR SECRET PATH TO LEAPFROG SONY & CANON. And I'm glad they figured it out. because now video features/price wise they are easily number ONE !!! BRAVO
@@davidcohendelara very well said. Both Sony and Canon got higher models to protect. Nikon has a huge opportunity to take their place back and to exceed
Best firmware I've ever installed was when the Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera updated from DNG raw to Blackmagic Raw. Everyone was worried but it turned out amazing. Blackmagic RAW is the best! They are still updating bit too
My exact thoughts. Love this update (and would love to see something similar for the other Zs as a soon to be Z6ii owner) but BRAW was the best update of all time. BMD are the indisputable GOATs of updates IMO
I mean there is the Z6 II, but yeah the video capabilities are not quite as good obiously! If they just added prores and better af that would already be fantastic, maybe on a future Z6 III !
They need a lot more than that. First of all, the Z9 is worse than the a1 in absolutely every way. Second, their sales numbers are awful, including the Z9, contrary to what their own marketing says. Third, they have by far the weakest lens line-up of all camera companies in the mirrorless space. Even if they made the perfect mirrorless D850 today, the Z system would still be crap because there's no glass.
@@youknowwho9247 well the Dpreview guys say its now the most complete camera they've ever tested. Jordan has also said he hasn't enjoyed using a camera so much in years
Just got my Z9 (2 weeks ago), my first flagship camera. Mind blown with its AF and photo capabilities. Now excited to explore the free built-in cinema camera.. Lol..
Favorite update was for the S1 that added Open Gate 6K to the previously 4K only camera. Most interesting recent Nikon announcement for the video style handgrip setup. Hopefully that does extremely well and they continue to aggressively pursue the video side of their camera development.
When they dropped firmware 2.0 for the original Z6/Z7 it was like getting a new camera as far as how much they improved the AF. Really, really cool to see things like this being something you can choose to download, rather than having to send the camera in.
In 2008 the 2nd generation iPod touch received a firmware update that unlocked Bluetooth. It was never advertised to have Bluetooth. Then an iOS update came out that just gave it Bluetooth. Incredible firmware update.
Lifelong Nikon shooter for pro and personal and everything between - but when I got into video production, they just weren't a player. Couple years ago, I gambled and stuck with Nikon for mirrorless (very seriously considered jumping to Sony because all my 'big' video gear is Sony). With the Z9 and the always world-class Nikkor glass, it is now no longer a gamble, but a sure thing. Nice to see, and I'm looking forward to applying this update as soon as released.
Seriously awesome. I can't wait for the 20th to add all this goodness to my Z9 (which I've only had for 3 weeks and still figuring out everything for my workflow). Disappointed that there's no N-RAW support from Apple/Final Cut, my NLE of choice. Maybe time to learn DaVinci? I'm not holding my breath for Apple to join the club. Glad to see one of my asks from Nikon, the waveform, and the video info screen is excellent. Best previous firmware? It was nice when Fuji added 4K to the X-Pro2 -- my first experience with UHD. Then, 3.40 for the Z6/Z7 which was transformational in that respect. Thanks for the review.
liked the video, especially after pre-ordering the Z9 back in November. Still no idea when it will arrive, but will be great to play around with 8k 60p
Detailed as always Gerald! Thank you! I love that you got into the debayer processing! As an aspiring colourist, it's so helpful to debayer into industry standard workflows like ARRI log C, ACES or the up and coming DWG.
The ability to develop RAW processing to Nlog is amazing. I've been developing my own Nlog LUTs for the last two years and didn't want to change my entire workflow if I choose to go RAW. Agreed about the Nikon LUTs, they're not good. Excellent video, as always.
Can you point me in the right direction for me to learn everything you just said? A book, youtube channel/video, or where can I learn what RAW processing is and how to use it as a tool for someone new?
Sony has a lot to learn from this. I've got a A7r4 and a A1. A7r4, a 4000 euros camera has not recieved any update since about 2 years... Sony A1, "the flagship", still no major update (except rumors about a A1 markII...). A74, the entry level, has focus breathing compensation, A1 don't.... Sony doesn t update there products, they just throw a lot of new hardware waiting for pigeons to rush on it. I'm really disapointed and I hope "influencers" (although I now they need new products;) will talk more about this kind of issue.
@@aboynamedjamil comming from Nikon there are too many things I'm waiting from sony to be stated here. If you own and use an A7r4, you shurely know how many strange features are locked in the menu for absolutly stupid reasons. For exemple, eye AF in video is locked if you have... IR remote engaged (good luck to find the reason the first time it appens to you)... There are a lot of funky stuff like that, that could be "solved" with a simple firmware uptdate. Adding lossless compression for RAW is a must on a 60Mpix camera (for this one, that might be hardware-incompatible) About the A1, it is a wonderfull camera but there is room for improvement, especialy in video. Desqueeze, better levels management. I was talking about focus breathing as a symbolic. A lot of people have bought this camera for video, it s very strange Sony don t keep up with ehancement. As a final note, I hope your curiosity was fullfieled, I've bought this 2 camera with my own money for work. It s a lot of money. I'm not a youtuber that's keep trying new stuff every month. I will keep those 2 camera for a long time. My initial comment was not meant to "cry", I didn't wait for this video to be worried about the lack of follow-up of Sony with there Cameras. Sorry for my bad english and spelling ;)
I use sony A7RIV. I don’t think that it’s a cheap camera but the exposure dial stops during shoot sometime and some risky angle shoot I want to shoot from mobile app but sony imaging app is total garbage
Actually the Firmware update for the FS700 to support RAW output with Odyssey or Atomos recorders was the reason I took the leap to become a freelancer. Being able to buy this piece of kit second hand opened a whole world for me.
Suprised no one is talking about the 5.4k crop ProRes RAW modes (without pixel binning of course) which I think are awesome and a great solution for those looking to incorporate PRR into their workflow without having to deal with pixel binning or get stuck with a maximum resolution of 4.1k
The C70 getting Cinema Raw Lite is the greatest firmware update. It basically made this little $5500 cinema camera feel like the C300 MkIII. Obviously it's not the same, but that was my biggest gripe with the C70 and now with RAW it's such an incredible deal for a cinema camera.
@@nordfresse Not really. It's all dependent on what you want it for. Z9 is a hybrid camera that shoots 8K which is cool but also not really practical. I also don't want full frame and want Super 35, and if I do want full frame I have the full frame adapter. Also I don't like pulling audio from a 3.5mm mic jack where with the C70 I have 2 mini XLR ports and a mic jack. Not to mention insane battery life by using the BP-A60 or A30 batteries. Then top it off with Canon color and lens choices. Majority of people who shoot video are already in the Canon or Sony ecosystem since Nikon is sports photography focused. I was already in the Canon ecosystem with L glass lenses so there was no way I'm switching to inferior Nikon glass.
@@CinemaSteve Canon and Sony will have an increasingly hard time to justify the high prices for their cine lineups with such capable options from Nikon, Fuji or BMD. But then again ARRI is asking a rediculous 80k$ for their new s35(!) 4k(!) camera...
@@nordfresse oh for sure and honestly I think that’s why Canon even has the C70. Canon before NEVER would’ve made a $5500 cinema camera with RAW which basically butchers C300 sales for people like me who don’t want to carry around a C300. I feel like it was a response to BMD having incredible sales with the release of the pocket 4K and 6K. I think it’s hard for others besides BMD to get adoption since BMD can come in EF mount compared to having to buy into the Nikon or Fuji lens lines. But I know Nikon and Fuji do have people starting to shift to video now as well.
Best Firmware Upgrade:? The Lumix S1 has been the sneakiest most inexpensive little trojan horse camera. Just gets all the same upgrades as the S1h and S5. It absolutely lowers the entry cost to full frame 10bit 6k raw to almost nothing... (and the autofocus is actually usable now)
@@VadimOm to amateurs that use autofocus? Lol, yes. But nobody worth their salt behind a camera doesn't throw their own focus;-) nice troll though... Also, nah. It's been updated to be quite reliable, if you're an af pleb.
I have been NPS since the late 90s and Sony Brodacast customer since the early 90s for video Betam Sp, Digital Betacam, HD cam, XD cam, etc ... but today with the Z9 Nikon it is better than very expensive video cameras bringing the typical quality of Nikon photos in the video, clearly this is just my opinion.
Gerald -- amazing as usual. This one I really will watch again at half speed :) Better yet, as a lifelong Nikon raw photo shooter, now eager to milk some of that same goodness out of my Z9's raw video, I would *so appreciate* a more detailed look at your Davinci workflow for this.
Wow! I don't even care about Nikon and watched this whole thing. Not only for the Undone goodness, but it's clear that Nikon wants to really throw some weight into the game! Kudos to them at swinging for Sony! And I think overall this will be good for all of us. Sony and Canon aren't going to be able to ignore this.
My favorite firmware update in my life was when fujifilm unlocked 120p on the xt2. I remember getting the notification and rushing home from college to install it, and playing with it in the back yard all night.
Thanks for the update. Well even though i use the FX3 i love watching your videos. Regardless of the manufacture. :-) One Question though: Why aren't you using any macs? Kinda hard to understand. Im not judging, just very curious on why that is. :-) greetings from Berlin. Love You! 🖤
@@fahdmoh8424 updates like this when Sony won’t even give us small upgrades like breathing comp makes me want to switch camera systems all together. I get that I bought it for what it was back then, but if I’m going to invest in a company line I’d rather own a camera who’s company philosophy is a gift that keeps on giving. When every other company is doing it, Sony feels like scam.
I don't know anything about Nikon. It seems that this thing doesn't have a fan at all, right? And is able to shoot 8K raw at 60 FPS for an hour without overheating? ... mind blown. 10 years ago everyone was hyped about the 5D mark II shooting video. But I think in 2022 the cameras more and more gets to "Arri" level. Sure, Arri, RED, and so on got 14, 15 stops. But it is just amazing how close you can get with an URSA Mini, Kinefinity, C-Series or a Nikon. I like that there is a lot of competition going on. No more "bottleneck" BS from the companies.
I don't understand half of what you are saying, but what I do know is that Nikon trailed in the video department the past few years. It looks like they have completely wiped the floor with the their competition with this camera and the updates. It is amazing, encouraging and exciting to see what this company is capable of if they put their minds to it. Thanks for the video.
I'm just a regular pro photographer. I bought the Z9 for its pro usability and photo functionality and I got a free cine camera with my purchase! Thanks Nikon! I'll have to learn some more about video now.
Blackmagic probably gets the award for largest amount of useful updates that I can remember. Data rates, overlays, RAW additions, etc etc. The BMPCC probably had the most epic updates or maybe its just because I owned one but their whole line has been great at actually adding features and improving the camera and listening to customers intently. It doesn't so much feel like they held features back like a lot of larger companies do so much as continued to develop the camera as it expanded its username and ran into more and more issues. Bravo for Nikon doing what I feel like is very much in the same vein.
I really thought hard about this. And the result is not an official update, but jailbreaking my iPod touch 1gen with ios 1.0. The added functionality was mind blowing on this already mind-blowing device when I was 14.
Just waiting (hoping) for Sony to step up their game when it comes to firmware updates and continuous improvements like we know from smartphones or similar. In all honesty I find that Sony is falling behind Canon and Nikon when it comes to firmware updates. What do you think?
@@visceraljourney Because Sony doesn't seem to rush to market with their gear. Seems to be the case lately...a pattern of quick release from competitors...tighten it up later on after the sale.
@@epicurusepicurus This could wing out of control, so I'll be brief. IMO...Nikon was locked solely onto Canon. Sony...Who dat? Oly, Pan, Fuji...plz...only on Canon. Canon was watching it all...still killing it in dslr. Sony was allowed to get an unconscionable amount of steam up. Canon being the bigger corp and leader could afford the late start. Nikon...couldn't. That and some missteps...which get everyone now and again. Nikon wasn't caught flat footed...they just followed Canon too far...blinders on.
For the exposure compensation and the exposure slider behaving weird, you could most likely bypass this issue by moving to the HDR wheels, setting up the input gamma and colorspace to nikon log and use the global adjustement to adjust with proper exposure stops. 1 stop will be 1 stop and so on!
Thanks for all your info on the Z9 and this firmware update. Really helpful. Now let’s find out why the Ninja V is only recording HD59.95 with both card slots empty and the camera set to 8k 30.
ThanksGerald - as a stills shooter I understood little of your explanation, but if it means the level of whining from videographers reduces then I will be happy. From a stills perspective v2.0 bring lots as well. We all have to wait to see what improvements in low light AF actually means.
personally i don't care about dslr style cameras having a resolution higher than 4k, not to mention 8k raw. just make your sensor with a native 4k resolution, so i can get 4k raw without crop. or if i want normal 4k, there doesn't need to be an oversampling step to take up my camera's resources. it's silly for pro-sumer cameras to have 8k when the hugest imax screen is still in 4k. even the most pro doesn't need 8k, why should pro-sumer need it?
I look forward to Sony feeling the pressure from this and giving us a major feature firmware update to the A1. Specifically, having the sensor cover be able to close when you're using the electronic shutter and also 8k 60p over sampled from 8.6k.
Agreed. The Z9 has a lot of useful features over the a1 now. The only thing the a1 has over the z9 I can think of is raw continuous shooting of 30fps… Nice for wildlife photography, but that’s a niche feature. I’d much prefer to trade that for 60fps @ 25MP or Nikons 120 at 11MP. Without updates, the a1 is starting to feel like a scam.
Wow, this might be the most exciting camera update I've seen in ages; however, I'm quite curious how Nikon is able to offer two RAW compression levels without being in violation of RED's patent. My personal opinion is if Nikon can prove that they have been using this compressed RAW on other stills cameras prior to 2008, then RED's patent could come into question, because a frame rate can not be the only thing holding together ones patent as increased speed is inevitable and clearly and obviously predictable, and something being obvious like this can invalidate a previous patent if the core tech existed before the patent in question, but it's hard to say and up to the courts if RED does attempt to get this removed like they did with every other company that has attempted to implement an in camera compressed RAW.
@No Espam I've been checking since the announcement, but it's not publicly available to download yet from what I can tell. I have a feeling that RED's lawyers have already contacted Nikon, and just like with the DJI Ronin 4D and the Kinefinity Mavo Edge, which both had ProresRAW in their pre-release versions, had to remove it before they went public. There are a few potential ways that Nikon could make a deal with RED. If Nikon has some tech that would benefit RED in a positive way, like maybe say a 16 stop high speed low price sensor, then it's possible RED might trade the use of it in exchange for use of the patent; however, at this point that's just unknown speculation, and RED has been very, very tight handed about the letting any potential competition have access to compressed mosaic RAW. I just don't see RED making an exception when this would be direct competition with their Komodo.
@No Espam I checked early this morning, and the 2.0 update is out now. So anyone with a z9 or planning to get one should probably grab the update now if they want it.
Thanks for your review. Always in-depth. Quick question: Ricci noted that the frame rate refresh rate in the EVF dropped notably when using the pre-capture mode making it's usefulness somewhat limited (I assume this is even when the 120 fps EVF refresh rate is enabled - dropping it even below the 60 fps by a significant amount. Did you see that?
Would this finally challenge the hegemony of Sony and Canon? If I remember correctly, Nikon was the first company to put video features in a DSLR. It has taken them more than two decades to produce a camera which the Sony and Canon couldn't and didn't want to do. Cost is a factor. But, this is a game changer to say the least. I wonder whether Nikon while sitting on the sidelines got so frustrated with the games played by both Sony and Canon that they finally decided to give us what we have speculated and begged all these years. But, cost is a serious factor.
BTW, the Resolve 17.4.6 update has supposedly added support for N-RAW on M1 Max processors (running natively). Not sure about other Apple silicon processors
Canon C70 firmware update is pretty badass adding 3 flavors of raw internal to SD cards. obviously it ain't doing 8k 60, but I don't really want that much
Wondering why setting white balance in camera matters when shooting Nikon RAW video. It's not the case for regular RAW still images. It's supposed to be the raw sensor data. I suspect it's not so raw after all.
Sounds awesome!! Just recently researched the Angelbird CF Express 4Tb after i purchased one a month or so ago and in red letters this card is only compatable w the Z9 !So the card can prob keep up. I have been using this card in my GH6 flawlessly in highest codecs and frame rates! Yestarday i upgraded to the 2.0 and when i did i now receive a prompt warning this card exceeds 2Tb! I would had sent it back if it didnot work initially but it worked without any problems . Like Atomos i assumed trial and error such as a card would not work then would work after an update. That is not the case. Totally backwards! There is no original firmware to download to bypass just the 2.0 new one. Would a factory reset do just that? Thanks
I was an early adopter of both the original BM Pocket and the Samsung NX1. Both were woefully incomplete on release. I hesitated calling the BMPCC a “camera” because it barely did camera things - it was more like a sensor back. BM got a pass for some reason, but the NX1 was evicerated and never recovered. Both became amazing cameras with early FW updates. The BMPCC was a huge success and went from strength to strength. The NX1 croaked. I dislike this tendency to ship hardware that’s not quite ready, expecting a “second chance” through firmware updates. I love having additional surprise features unlocked down the road, but when you buy a new camera it should at least do what’s expected of it on day 1.
Here me out, the best firmware update I ever installed was I believe V1.9 for the BM Production 4K. That firmware update greatly reduced the fixed-pattern noise to a point where the camera was actually usable. A very frustrating camera indeed, amazing images in the right conditions though. (also a close second was the BM RAW firmware update for the Pocket 4K)
Excellent video as usual !!! I upgraded the Z9 today and I Can't read the NRaw files with Resolve ? did you have any special tips ? I only have audio files ?! MBP M1 Pro Max 64go Ram Mac OS 12.3.1 Resolve 17.4.6 or 18 beta nothing ?!
Any chance you could provide a bit more detail regarding the Data Rate for N-RAW video? Specifically am looking to find out what the Data Rate is for N-RAW at 8.3K at 60fps in both the Normal and High quality settings. Any chance you guys could post a couple sample files via Google Drive or Dropbox for prospective buyers to download and test out in our post workflows?
Now I'm extra confused as to why the Panasonic GH6 lacks prores raw (and why Ronin dji 4d dropped it, I thought it was a red patent). Either way It would be great to see a more affordable aps-c Nikon camera with all these video features (like $2500). or maybe the constantly rumored fuji xh2 can shoot raw video (doubtful).
Gerald, how do you get the n-log lut onto the z9. I can see it in the user interface on the back of the camera in your video. I've downloaded it from the nikon firmware site. but I cant find anywhere on how to instal in=t onto the camera?
Correction @ 1:23: The ProRes Raw is not external. That was a slip of the tongue that I'm used to saying. Both flavors of raw are internal on this camera.
Interesting... with Canon and Nikon now doing internal RAW, what's to keep everyone from doing it. Seems like RED's evil grip is loosening.
Why for Nikon and Sony you are so forgiving looking for workarounds instead of criticizing the issues as you do with Canon? BTW I'm a Sony user.
So, are you selling the A1 now or what’s going on(:
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@@skymakai Far from it, I see the movement in the other direction: RED getting features that were not part of a cinema camera before. The dynamic range of RED cameras is outstanding.
Thank you Nikon! And I'm a Sony user! This will remind to other companies what a real firmware update can do and must do!
Tho in all fairness this is not the „squeezing some more juice out“ kinda update, which are usually the result of an afterthought, but one that unlocked features which were intended to be in the camera from the very beginning and just weren‘t completed for the release
Same here, I am also a Sony shooter and happy that Canon and Nikon forced Sony to implement f.e. 10bit etc.
Just waiting (hoping) for Sony to step up their game when it comes to firmware updates and continuous improvements like we know from smartphones or similar.
In all honesty I find Sony to fall behind Canon and Nikon when it comes to firmware updates.
What do you think?
@@flashforum939 I do agree and that's more obvious recently when even top of the line cameras like A1, A7siii and either FX3 haven't got any level of a decent firmware update yet and a7siii is out for almost a couple of years now! Sony has turned from a good player to a very bad player recently and it seems they care more about influencer than their real customers! Nikon is doing exactly the opposite, even giving firmware updates to their old DSLR camera users. This trust making manner will lead to more major upgrades from loyal users, but what Sony is doing is rather persuading you to switch brand instead of upgrading your current model! They did the exact same shit with apsc lineup. No real improvement on a6500/a6300 and they only tried to convince you to buy the newer generation while the upgraded features were so marginal.
@@romanpul how do you know? Besides the 8k 60p.
What can I say other than WOW. Nikon has delivered the holy grail of firmware updates for mirrorless video.
Congrats to Nikon. The Z9 is now the bleeding edge for prosumer video. 👏
Ain't gonna trust Nikon even if they come with 15 true Arri levels stops of DR, LOL. They screwed their customers over with the introduction of Z6/Z7 that were put out on the shelves with horrible autofocus to a point where you'd think they were selling beta-stage bodies to early adopters. Yes, they brought a decent firmware update in that regard 2 YEARS LATER, but what about those who initially bought it as proud Nikon fans? It doesn't matter what Nikon does; I'll always take what they offer with a grain of salt. Also, their lens lineup isn't as special as Canons per se.
@@costinvaly1 lol... seems that we found the authentical example of hater here
@@ramonarias1234 *facepalm*, stating actually googable facts means "hating" to you? There's a ton of videos showcasing how bad the AF is on the early Z6/Z7 models and that's about their so called eye-AF mode. Manny Ortiz, Jared Polin, etc. they all tested and stated the same outcomes. I also had my hands on them a lot of times and it just wasn't on Sony's level, not even on Canon's who joined the mirrorless world later. Staying objective isn't your thing i guess. Let me reverse your quote and make it more factual: "we found the authentical example of a fanboy here"
@@costinvaly1 LMAO
@@costinvaly1 you need to try harder. LOL
Not a camera guy, but all of this is absolutely fascinating. Now I gotta figure out what 4k raw clipping with oversampling is ... 👍
Exactly what I'v been saying all along : NIKON HAS NO HIGHER VIDEO CAMERAS MODELS TO PROTECT !!! AND THAT’S THEIR SECRET PATH TO LEAPFROG SONY & CANON.
And I'm glad they figured it out. because now video features/price wise they are easily number ONE !!! BRAVO
Home their beer, though... I would make sense for them to make the jump sometime soon. Let's enjoy ths situatoon meanwhile!
That’s a good point. No need to cripple anything. They knew they could go balls to the wall with this one and they did.
@@davidcohendelara very well said. Both Sony and Canon got higher models to protect. Nikon has a huge opportunity to take their place back and to exceed
Best firmware I've ever installed was when the Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera updated from DNG raw to Blackmagic Raw.
Everyone was worried but it turned out amazing. Blackmagic RAW is the best!
They are still updating bit too
My exact thoughts. Love this update (and would love to see something similar for the other Zs as a soon to be Z6ii owner) but BRAW was the best update of all time. BMD are the indisputable GOATs of updates IMO
From original bmpcc?
The Panasonic S1 going from 8 bit 4k only, to 10 bit open gate 6k has to be up there as well.
Pocket 4k going from CDNG to Braw opened it up to a useable camera to many.
N-Raw sounds similar to B-Raw but they need to add options to use different compression ratio just like BM.
Nikon needs a mid market camera with the same impact as the Z9 had at flagship level. It'll truly be back then
i am sure they are working on mid range bodies.
I mean there is the Z6 II, but yeah the video capabilities are not quite as good obiously! If they just added prores and better af that would already be fantastic, maybe on a future Z6 III !
They need a lot more than that. First of all, the Z9 is worse than the a1 in absolutely every way. Second, their sales numbers are awful, including the Z9, contrary to what their own marketing says. Third, they have by far the weakest lens line-up of all camera companies in the mirrorless space. Even if they made the perfect mirrorless D850 today, the Z system would still be crap because there's no glass.
@you kno who.... what's missing? Sounds like you've used the Z9?
@@youknowwho9247 well the Dpreview guys say its now the most complete camera they've ever tested. Jordan has also said he hasn't enjoyed using a camera so much in years
Just got my Z9 (2 weeks ago), my first flagship camera. Mind blown with its AF and photo capabilities. Now excited to explore the free built-in cinema camera.. Lol..
Favorite update was for the S1 that added Open Gate 6K to the previously 4K only camera. Most interesting recent Nikon announcement for the video style handgrip setup. Hopefully that does extremely well and they continue to aggressively pursue the video side of their camera development.
“Video style handgrip”
What is this?
YES dude, I can't believe how much i'm gettting out of my S1 now. 6k 10bit raw was SO out of my expectations when i purchased it.
@@Triforcefilms "10-bit RAW"?
@@TechnoBabble yup. Atomos ninja v. External recorder that supports raw recording formats up to 6k 12 bit on the S1
When they dropped firmware 2.0 for the original Z6/Z7 it was like getting a new camera as far as how much they improved the AF. Really, really cool to see things like this being something you can choose to download, rather than having to send the camera in.
In 2008 the 2nd generation iPod touch received a firmware update that unlocked Bluetooth. It was never advertised to have Bluetooth. Then an iOS update came out that just gave it Bluetooth. Incredible firmware update.
Remember when they added microwave charging on the iPhone via software update? /s
I’m sony a1 user, but I had to say Nikon is king on video, wait to see any update firmware on sony to fight back
Lifelong Nikon shooter for pro and personal and everything between - but when I got into video production, they just weren't a player. Couple years ago, I gambled and stuck with Nikon for mirrorless (very seriously considered jumping to Sony because all my 'big' video gear is Sony). With the Z9 and the always world-class Nikkor glass, it is now no longer a gamble, but a sure thing. Nice to see, and I'm looking forward to applying this update as soon as released.
using GOAT in regards to firmware is amazing, and I love it
Seriously awesome. I can't wait for the 20th to add all this goodness to my Z9 (which I've only had for 3 weeks and still figuring out everything for my workflow). Disappointed that there's no N-RAW support from Apple/Final Cut, my NLE of choice. Maybe time to learn DaVinci? I'm not holding my breath for Apple to join the club.
Glad to see one of my asks from Nikon, the waveform, and the video info screen is excellent.
Best previous firmware? It was nice when Fuji added 4K to the X-Pro2 -- my first experience with UHD. Then, 3.40 for the Z6/Z7 which was transformational in that respect. Thanks for the review.
My favorite most be when magic lantern released for 5DmkII. It’s also some other milestone. When that added raw recording and when they added 4K raw.
liked the video, especially after pre-ordering the Z9 back in November. Still no idea when it will arrive, but will be great to play around with 8k 60p
Detailed as always Gerald! Thank you! I love that you got into the debayer processing! As an aspiring colourist, it's so helpful to debayer into industry standard workflows like ARRI log C, ACES or the up and coming DWG.
5:57 That 3090 flex tho 🤣🤣
The ability to develop RAW processing to Nlog is amazing.
I've been developing my own Nlog LUTs for the last two years and didn't want to change my entire workflow if I choose to go RAW. Agreed about the Nikon LUTs, they're not good.
Excellent video, as always.
Can you point me in the right direction for me to learn everything you just said?
A book, youtube channel/video, or where can I learn what RAW processing is and how to use it as a tool for someone new?
Sony has a lot to learn from this. I've got a A7r4 and a A1. A7r4, a 4000 euros camera has not recieved any update since about 2 years... Sony A1, "the flagship", still no major update (except rumors about a A1 markII...). A74, the entry level, has focus breathing compensation, A1 don't.... Sony doesn t update there products, they just throw a lot of new hardware waiting for pigeons to rush on it.
I'm really disapointed and I hope "influencers" (although I now they need new products;) will talk more about this kind of issue.
I'm curious. Other than focus breathing compensation, what would you like to see in an A1 update? In an A7R4 update?
@@aboynamedjamil comming from Nikon there are too many things I'm waiting from sony to be stated here. If you own and use an A7r4, you shurely know how many strange features are locked in the menu for absolutly stupid reasons. For exemple, eye AF in video is locked if you have... IR remote engaged (good luck to find the reason the first time it appens to you)... There are a lot of funky stuff like that, that could be "solved" with a simple firmware uptdate. Adding lossless compression for RAW is a must on a 60Mpix camera (for this one, that might be hardware-incompatible)
About the A1, it is a wonderfull camera but there is room for improvement, especialy in video. Desqueeze, better levels management. I was talking about focus breathing as a symbolic. A lot of people have bought this camera for video, it s very strange Sony don t keep up with ehancement.
As a final note, I hope your curiosity was fullfieled, I've bought this 2 camera with my own money for work. It s a lot of money. I'm not a youtuber that's keep trying new stuff every month.
I will keep those 2 camera for a long time.
My initial comment was not meant to "cry", I didn't wait for this video to be worried about the lack of follow-up of Sony with there Cameras.
Sorry for my bad english and spelling ;)
I use sony A7RIV. I don’t think that it’s a cheap camera but the exposure dial stops during shoot sometime and some risky angle shoot I want to shoot from mobile app but sony imaging app is total garbage
Actually the Firmware update for the FS700 to support RAW output with Odyssey or Atomos recorders was the reason I took the leap to become a freelancer. Being able to buy this piece of kit second hand opened a whole world for me.
The best update of all time until this Z9 2.0 was Blackmagic adding BRAW to their cameras.
Never thought the Sonosonic a1H would've been topped for at least 2 years. Bravo Nikon!
Suprised no one is talking about the 5.4k crop ProRes RAW modes (without pixel binning of course) which I think are awesome and a great solution for those looking to incorporate PRR into their workflow without having to deal with pixel binning or get stuck with a maximum resolution of 4.1k
The C70 getting Cinema Raw Lite is the greatest firmware update. It basically made this little $5500 cinema camera feel like the C300 MkIII. Obviously it's not the same, but that was my biggest gripe with the C70 and now with RAW it's such an incredible deal for a cinema camera.
Isnt the Z9 at $5999 with a fullframe sensor the much better deal tho?
@@nordfresse Not really. It's all dependent on what you want it for. Z9 is a hybrid camera that shoots 8K which is cool but also not really practical. I also don't want full frame and want Super 35, and if I do want full frame I have the full frame adapter. Also I don't like pulling audio from a 3.5mm mic jack where with the C70 I have 2 mini XLR ports and a mic jack. Not to mention insane battery life by using the BP-A60 or A30 batteries. Then top it off with Canon color and lens choices. Majority of people who shoot video are already in the Canon or Sony ecosystem since Nikon is sports photography focused. I was already in the Canon ecosystem with L glass lenses so there was no way I'm switching to inferior Nikon glass.
@@CinemaSteve Canon and Sony will have an increasingly hard time to justify the high prices for their cine lineups with such capable options from Nikon, Fuji or BMD. But then again ARRI is asking a rediculous 80k$ for their new s35(!) 4k(!) camera...
@@nordfresse oh for sure and honestly I think that’s why Canon even has the C70. Canon before NEVER would’ve made a $5500 cinema camera with RAW which basically butchers C300 sales for people like me who don’t want to carry around a C300. I feel like it was a response to BMD having incredible sales with the release of the pocket 4K and 6K. I think it’s hard for others besides BMD to get adoption since BMD can come in EF mount compared to having to buy into the Nikon or Fuji lens lines. But I know Nikon and Fuji do have people starting to shift to video now as well.
Best Firmware Upgrade:? The Lumix S1 has been the sneakiest most inexpensive little trojan horse camera. Just gets all the same upgrades as the S1h and S5. It absolutely lowers the entry cost to full frame 10bit 6k raw to almost nothing... (and the autofocus is actually usable now)
@No Espam he's trading blows with some chonks though, (smaller than a black magic 6k)
With contrast af that camera is dead af
@@VadimOm to amateurs that use autofocus? Lol, yes. But nobody worth their salt behind a camera doesn't throw their own focus;-) nice troll though...
Also, nah. It's been updated to be quite reliable, if you're an af pleb.
Leaving my a7s3 in the dust.
They have killed it with this one! thanks for the video
The S1 6k Open Gate upgrade was insane
I have been NPS since the late 90s and Sony Brodacast customer since the early 90s for video Betam Sp, Digital Betacam, HD cam, XD cam, etc ... but today with the Z9 Nikon it is better than very expensive video cameras bringing the typical quality of Nikon photos in the video, clearly this is just my opinion.
Gerald -- amazing as usual. This one I really will watch again at half speed :) Better yet, as a lifelong Nikon raw photo shooter, now eager to milk some of that same goodness out of my Z9's raw video, I would *so appreciate* a more detailed look at your Davinci workflow for this.
Wow! I don't even care about Nikon and watched this whole thing. Not only for the Undone goodness, but it's clear that Nikon wants to really throw some weight into the game! Kudos to them at swinging for Sony! And I think overall this will be good for all of us. Sony and Canon aren't going to be able to ignore this.
Panasonic S1. Hands down. Already 3 years old and then gets 6k open gate among an absolute litany of other features.
So, did Nikon or Blackmagic ever get back to you about that 12-bit or 14-bit conundrum?
It was nice when Fuji updated X-T3 AF to X-T4 level. Unfortunately, they forgot to make it actually good.
My favorite firmware update in my life was when fujifilm unlocked 120p on the xt2. I remember getting the notification and rushing home from college to install it, and playing with it in the back yard all night.
Impressed with update. Thanks G!
Now if Nikon can make a small and light single grip version of the A9 I might consider switching back.
Super vidéo comme toujours, bravo et bravo à Nikon pour faire évoluer ainsi son matériel. Sony ferait bien de s'en inspirer ! Merci
Outstanding video Gerald. Thanks for making it buddy!
Can the Rtx 3080 handle the 8k video of the Z9?
Nikon isn't playing catch up anymore. I guess not having to worry about avoiding cannibalizing a cinema line sales made them go all in.
wow this is going to rock
Thanks for the update. Well even though i use the FX3 i love watching your videos. Regardless of the manufacture. :-) One Question though: Why aren't you using any macs? Kinda hard to understand. Im not judging, just very curious on why that is. :-) greetings from Berlin. Love You! 🖤
where is my firmware update for a1 sony?
Seriously… Sony, get your shit together and give us an update.
I kept waiting for it until I sold my A1 and bought Z9
@@fahdmoh8424 updates like this when Sony won’t even give us small upgrades like breathing comp makes me want to switch camera systems all together. I get that I bought it for what it was back then, but if I’m going to invest in a company line I’d rather own a camera who’s company philosophy is a gift that keeps on giving. When every other company is doing it, Sony feels like scam.
@@Zero-wj8ti Z9 is seriously good value, Even switching system to get into Nikon make sense
You already got it in version 1.2 they added active ftp-connection as the only fix. :)
I don't know anything about Nikon. It seems that this thing doesn't have a fan at all, right? And is able to shoot 8K raw at 60 FPS for an hour without overheating? ... mind blown. 10 years ago everyone was hyped about the 5D mark II shooting video. But I think in 2022 the cameras more and more gets to "Arri" level. Sure, Arri, RED, and so on got 14, 15 stops. But it is just amazing how close you can get with an URSA Mini, Kinefinity, C-Series or a Nikon. I like that there is a lot of competition going on. No more "bottleneck" BS from the companies.
I don't understand half of what you are saying, but what I do know is that Nikon trailed in the video department the past few years. It looks like they have completely wiped the floor with the their competition with this camera and the updates. It is amazing, encouraging and exciting to see what this company is capable of if they put their minds to it. Thanks for the video.
This camera was impressive to start with. This free firmware update makes it even more so.
Selling my A1 to get the Nikon.....
I'm just a regular pro photographer. I bought the Z9 for its pro usability and photo functionality and I got a free cine camera with my purchase! Thanks Nikon! I'll have to learn some more about video now.
Blackmagic probably gets the award for largest amount of useful updates that I can remember. Data rates, overlays, RAW additions, etc etc. The BMPCC probably had the most epic updates or maybe its just because I owned one but their whole line has been great at actually adding features and improving the camera and listening to customers intently. It doesn't so much feel like they held features back like a lot of larger companies do so much as continued to develop the camera as it expanded its username and ran into more and more issues. Bravo for Nikon doing what I feel like is very much in the same vein.
I really thought hard about this.
And the result is not an official update, but jailbreaking my iPod touch 1gen with ios 1.0. The added functionality was mind blowing on this already mind-blowing device when I was 14.
Hi Gerald, Thanks so much for the excellent reviews ! I've learned everything about video etc. from you, the video tutorials are superb!
Just waiting (hoping) for Sony to step up their game when it comes to firmware updates and continuous improvements like we know from smartphones or similar.
In all honesty I find that Sony is falling behind Canon and Nikon when it comes to firmware updates.
What do you think?
Sony is the worst in terms of firmware updates.
@@visceraljourney Because Sony doesn't seem to rush to market with their gear. Seems to be the case lately...a pattern of quick release from competitors...tighten it up later on after the sale.
As a Nikon user, I wish Nikon got their shit right in the first place instead of releasing beta products and patching it later.
@@epicurusepicurus This could wing out of control, so I'll be brief. IMO...Nikon was locked solely onto Canon. Sony...Who dat? Oly, Pan, Fuji...plz...only on Canon. Canon was watching it all...still killing it in dslr. Sony was allowed to get an unconscionable
amount of steam up. Canon being the bigger corp and leader could afford the late start. Nikon...couldn't. That and some missteps...which get everyone now and again. Nikon wasn't caught flat footed...they just followed Canon too far...blinders on.
Just get a Nikon...
As an Canon R6 owner, the addition of cLOG3 and redundant recording as a firmware update was invaluable!
For the exposure compensation and the exposure slider behaving weird, you could most likely bypass this issue by moving to the HDR wheels, setting up the input gamma and colorspace to nikon log and use the global adjustement to adjust with proper exposure stops. 1 stop will be 1 stop and so on!
Thanks for all your info on the Z9 and this firmware update. Really helpful. Now let’s find out why the Ninja V is only recording HD59.95 with both card slots empty and the camera set to 8k 30.
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ThanksGerald - as a stills shooter I understood little of your explanation, but if it means the level of whining from videographers reduces then I will be happy. From a stills perspective v2.0 bring lots as well. We all have to wait to see what improvements in low light AF actually means.
The best firmware update of all time is *next month* when GH6 fixes it's autofocus
Contrast base auto focus will never be as great. Hopefully gh6 is the last 3/4 camera from them
This comment was pulled from 2010...and is still running.
I hope so. 😆
And if they don't read it again
tried it and it's actually quite usable finally on the GH6.
personally i don't care about dslr style cameras having a resolution higher than 4k, not to mention 8k raw. just make your sensor with a native 4k resolution, so i can get 4k raw without crop. or if i want normal 4k, there doesn't need to be an oversampling step to take up my camera's resources. it's silly for pro-sumer cameras to have 8k when the hugest imax screen is still in 4k. even the most pro doesn't need 8k, why should pro-sumer need it?
I look forward to Sony feeling the pressure from this and giving us a major feature firmware update to the A1. Specifically, having the sensor cover be able to close when you're using the electronic shutter and also 8k 60p over sampled from 8.6k.
Future lookin real bright yall 😎
I’m a Sony fanboy but the A1 should be 1000 or even 2000 less.
Agreed. The Z9 has a lot of useful features over the a1 now. The only thing the a1 has over the z9 I can think of is raw continuous shooting of 30fps… Nice for wildlife photography, but that’s a niche feature. I’d much prefer to trade that for 60fps @ 25MP or Nikons 120 at 11MP. Without updates, the a1 is starting to feel like a scam.
Nikon is back.
Panasonic G9 has had some pretty epic firmware updates over its run.
Wow, this might be the most exciting camera update I've seen in ages; however, I'm quite curious how Nikon is able to offer two RAW compression levels without being in violation of RED's patent. My personal opinion is if Nikon can prove that they have been using this compressed RAW on other stills cameras prior to 2008, then RED's patent could come into question, because a frame rate can not be the only thing holding together ones patent as increased speed is inevitable and clearly and obviously predictable, and something being obvious like this can invalidate a previous patent if the core tech existed before the patent in question, but it's hard to say and up to the courts if RED does attempt to get this removed like they did with every other company that has attempted to implement an in camera compressed RAW.
It's factored into the price I'm sure.
@No Espam I've been checking since the announcement, but it's not publicly available to download yet from what I can tell. I have a feeling that RED's lawyers have already contacted Nikon, and just like with the DJI Ronin 4D and the Kinefinity Mavo Edge, which both had ProresRAW in their pre-release versions, had to remove it before they went public. There are a few potential ways that Nikon could make a deal with RED. If Nikon has some tech that would benefit RED in a positive way, like maybe say a 16 stop high speed low price sensor, then it's possible RED might trade the use of it in exchange for use of the patent; however, at this point that's just unknown speculation, and RED has been very, very tight handed about the letting any potential competition have access to compressed mosaic RAW. I just don't see RED making an exception when this would be direct competition with their Komodo.
@@billyoung9538 This is almost in direct competition to their 8K Helium.
@No Espam I checked early this morning, and the 2.0 update is out now. So anyone with a z9 or planning to get one should probably grab the update now if they want it.
Thanks for your review. Always in-depth. Quick question: Ricci noted that the frame rate refresh rate in the EVF dropped notably when using the pre-capture mode making it's usefulness somewhat limited (I assume this is even when the 120 fps EVF refresh rate is enabled - dropping it even below the 60 fps by a significant amount. Did you see that?
Blackmagic RAW was a great update but the free Advance games on the Nintendo Ambassador's Program for the DS was better.
Still no firmware update for the Sony A1 in meantime... slack as hell
Don't worry, Sony will roll out a new camera as always
Holy s... undone!!! 8k 60 RAW!!! how much storage and CPU-GPU power do you need to move that?
might be the A7S3 s-cineton update, however I'm a Nikon z6ii shooter now LOL
Would this finally challenge the hegemony of Sony and Canon? If I remember correctly, Nikon was the first company to put video features in a DSLR. It has taken them more than two decades to produce a camera which the Sony and Canon couldn't and didn't want to do. Cost is a factor. But, this is a game changer to say the least. I wonder whether Nikon while sitting on the sidelines got so frustrated with the games played by both Sony and Canon that they finally decided to give us what we have speculated and begged all these years. But, cost is a serious factor.
Sooo dope!! Now i really have to get ten!!
BTW, the Resolve 17.4.6 update has supposedly added support for N-RAW on M1 Max processors (running natively). Not sure about other Apple silicon processors
I don't even own it anymore but the G9 v2.0! For us in the 1000 - 1500 CAD budget range, this was great for video.
So wait it's possible to convert Nlog to another profile like ArrilogC or Slog3 for example ?! marvelous !
Nikon just released Z9c
You should call yourself Professor Gerald Undone. You're on another level from the rest of the people who do what you do.
Did I just hear 25 minutes of recording on a 650gb!!! card. Thats like 3,500mbps. Dam!
Thank you for the great review!
Nikon should make a propper cinema camera :)
nar man not yet, they're only this good because they don't have cini cams to protect
Canon C70 firmware update is pretty badass adding 3 flavors of raw internal to SD cards. obviously it ain't doing 8k 60, but I don't really want that much
Wondering why setting white balance in camera matters when shooting Nikon RAW video. It's not the case for regular RAW still images. It's supposed to be the raw sensor data. I suspect it's not so raw after all.
Sounds awesome!! Just recently researched the Angelbird CF Express 4Tb after i purchased one a month or so ago and in red letters this card is only compatable w the Z9 !So the card can prob keep up. I have been using this card in my GH6 flawlessly in highest codecs and frame rates! Yestarday i upgraded to the 2.0 and when i did i now receive a prompt warning this card exceeds 2Tb! I would had sent it back if it didnot work initially but it worked without any problems . Like Atomos i assumed trial and error such as a card would not work then would work after an update. That is not the case. Totally backwards! There is no original firmware to download to bypass just the 2.0 new one. Would a factory reset do just that? Thanks
Love getting no sleep and watching gerald undone😂 its 6:30 in the Netherlands:’)
They need a z6 or z5 with a flip screen and 10 bit.
Oh, no no flippy screen please
I was an early adopter of both the original BM Pocket and the Samsung NX1. Both were woefully incomplete on release. I hesitated calling the BMPCC a “camera” because it barely did camera things - it was more like a sensor back.
BM got a pass for some reason, but the NX1 was evicerated and never recovered. Both became amazing cameras with early FW updates. The BMPCC was a huge success and went from strength to strength. The NX1 croaked.
I dislike this tendency to ship hardware that’s not quite ready, expecting a “second chance” through firmware updates. I love having additional surprise features unlocked down the road, but when you buy a new camera it should at least do what’s expected of it on day 1.
Is there any difference between doing a cst with NLOG > Arri Log C vs Linear > Arri Log C?
if I had the money right now, I'd be all over that camera!
Damn, Nikon is keeping up forefront
Here me out, the best firmware update I ever installed was I believe V1.9 for the BM Production 4K. That firmware update greatly reduced the fixed-pattern noise to a point where the camera was actually usable. A very frustrating camera indeed, amazing images in the right conditions though.
(also a close second was the BM RAW firmware update for the Pocket 4K)
Excellent video as usual !!! I upgraded the Z9 today and I Can't read the NRaw files with Resolve ? did you have any special tips ? I only have audio files ?! MBP M1 Pro Max 64go Ram Mac OS 12.3.1 Resolve 17.4.6 or 18 beta nothing ?!
Do you have a video where you go into detail about why you don't like prores raw? Thanks
Any chance you could provide a bit more detail regarding the Data Rate for N-RAW video?
Specifically am looking to find out what the Data Rate is for N-RAW at 8.3K at 60fps in both the Normal and High quality settings. Any chance you guys could post a couple sample files via Google Drive or Dropbox for prospective buyers to download and test out in our post workflows?
Now I'm extra confused as to why the Panasonic GH6 lacks prores raw (and why Ronin dji 4d dropped it, I thought it was a red patent). Either way It would be great to see a more affordable aps-c Nikon camera with all these video features (like $2500). or maybe the constantly rumored fuji xh2 can shoot raw video (doubtful).
This firmware update shows that the Z mount was geared towards cinema and video users. Might see a Nikon release a cinema line lenses?.
Gerald, how do you get the n-log lut onto the z9. I can see it in the user interface on the back of the camera in your video. I've downloaded it from the nikon firmware site. but I cant find anywhere on how to instal in=t onto the camera?
I've a Panasonic G9, so my favorite firmware update gave me 10-bit 422 internal