you should do Tigerland. I thought it was great at showing all the boot camp personalities you encounter amongst those that sign up. its an entire boot camp NTC film set for vietnam.
Fun fact: the contractor that came to help them, Glen "Bub" Doherty, was one of the Navy SEALs who helped save Captain Phillips during the Somali pirates hostage situation.
The Siege of Jadotville could be a cool one ! True story, An Irish commander and his battalion of 150 men withstand a siege by 3,000 Congolese troops led by French and Belgian mercenaries working for mining corporations.
The crying part was so good because you could tell he didnt believe it until that moment he made the call he had to say it out loud for it to sink in thats a good actor right there
Lost a friend back in January 2008 in Iraq. Ryan Maseth was with 5th group. Had the pleasure of meeting him when my M4 took a shit. Since he was the armorer, he took apart the trigger mechanism, and fixed it on the spot. Got to spend some good time with him, and got to know him, and his family. He was a very humble guy. One would never know he was in group. I will always think of him on this sacred day. You are missed my friend.
The way both of you drew breath when the mortar scene came on gave me chills! It could only come from real fighting men who have either been on the receiving end or have applied these deadly high-arching trajectory weapons. I salute you!
Them making a "decision" to go, is all about those people who CHOOSE to join. You guys are a different breed, and I'm honored you CHOSE to join to defend us.
"13 Hours" is quickly becoming one of my favorite movies. I served in the Marines with a man named John. John got fucked over by our command and left the Marines to go work with Black Water. His first day on contract he's walking through the team room and a guy looks over his shoulder and says "Holy shit, you look like your into lifting weights, my name is Kris Paranto but people call me Tanto" and now John makes all of Tatnto's kydex.
I work in one of the embassies overseas and David Urban was one of our RSO's. He's the black guy in the movie but he's white in real life. Nice guy but didn't get to know him to well to ask him about this. Kinda felt uncomfortable approaching him about it.
I was working alongside some British operator in Kandahar city back in 2009. For almost 3 hours I had no idea he was who he was because he blended in so well. Then finally he spoke up when a particular song came on and he said on a very obvious British voice "fockin luv this tune."
I'm pretty sure that if John Krasinski is in something, that viewing experience is going to be extremely memorable. That being said, 13 hours has become one of my all time favorite films.
I absolutely love this movie but it also does such a great job of getting my blood boiling at the complete and utter failure that could’ve been so easily avoided.
This role help John get the Jack Ryan lead. Which is why that series is so good. Finally an actor(and the writers) that remembers that Ryan was a Marine. This was a complete f@#$up by the State Department. It was the skill and bravery of the operators that kept this from being a massacre. We can only hope that station chief was given a useless desk job after that butt job.
Benghazi was a bees nest and the locals thought they could get some honey. State Department only hires ex operators which means someone got tailed back to base. It's not like the locals got a wild hair up their ass for no reason. Somebody stirred up some shit and that has to be one hell of a story to tell
Pretty sure he got some fancy medal and retired a few weeks later (he states in the movie that this outpost is his last op) likely with a hefty retirement and/or some huge ranch-like property. Like the four state at the end of the movie when they’re waiting for the plane home at the airport; the green berets who were there for two seconds and did next to nothing got medals, the chief got a med, everyone got a medal except for them as they’re hired guns and not technically military. Although I believe they had some private ceremony and received some stupid medal that means nothing - just so they shut up, basically. The system is fucked up. To put it extremely lightly.
@@DropBear_42 Part of Being a contractor/Merc is not getting medals. The point of using contractors is to not have a paper trail or admit you had anything to do with it. Yeah they did good but why should they get medals? If you want medals and glory stay in the military.
@@MorteFortuna89 They have a lot to do with Tactics. They are a gear company second, and a training company first. They teach federal, state, and local law enforcement CQB and Sniping.
@@ThunderTaco206 I agree. Looks like the previous comment is gone. It sounded like he was saying that GBRS was responsible for the ttps we saw in the movie but I can’t really remember.
Hey fellas. Great video. Former MARSOC dude here. I was dying laughing during the whole "grey man" discussion. So spot on! It's SO true! No matter how many classes you take on blending in to local environments, you ALWAYS still see dudes rocking tan/grey/green tactical pants with (fill in the blank outdoor clothing brand) hiking boots and some plaid button up and ball cap. You're not blending in to shit hahaha. Body of Lies with Leo and Russell Crowe where Leo plays a CIA dude was one of the best portrayals. He wasn't Mr. Tactical but not too tactical. He wore local garb without donning an actual man dress and hijab. Looked like a loser in goodwill clothing which is so much better than the dudes who wear the same cliché bland tactical clothing they would wear on the range out in country. Spot on. Love the stuff!
Yo Brother 0321 FORECON here, going native or being put in the position where that might be a mission requirement is one of the reasons I didn't opt for selection and indoc into the 0372 in 05, did it once in 98 with our Aussie counterparts in East Timour and it damn near got us all killed, I'd rather blend in with the terrain then the natives thank you very much besides we are a limited DA element we have you Raiders for the heavy lifting sure we can provide you some DA/overwatch/QRF if need be but as it goes you have your op profile we have ours you have the training and gear for a much broader scope of DA so drop your CCT/JTAC with us and go kick some ass devil dogs we'll watch the ingress and egress points and any froggy MFer's not in your LOS.
There's a scene in that show The Terminal List where an ex-marine contractor guy has been sent to kill Chris Pratt, but he notices him because he's wearing a plaid shirt, raggedy ball cap, wraparound shades, and has a big beard. I thought that was dumb because the guy knows he's going after a SEAL, and couldn't have been trying any harder to look like ex SOF. But I guess it was realistic. Still dumb as fuck to actually do that though.
I remember going into Iraq the first time as a contractor. My group and I flew into BIAP on the civilian side. One guy was dressed like a surf bum and the other 12 were dressed in the "tactical tuxedo" look, down to the combat boots and three day assault packs as carry on. One dude even had a Pork Eating Crusader morale patch on his shit. I was dressed in slacks, long sleeve white dress shirt, and decent shoes. My carry on luggage was a roller suitcase. If anyone had asked I would have told them I was working for a service and logistics company doing relief efforts. Long story short I got through immigration in 15 minutes and pulled security on everyone's checked luggage so the Iraqis couldn't rat fuck our shit and everyone else stayed in the holding area for 2 hours. You don't have to dress like a local, just don't dress like an off duty operator. All my tactical tuxedo stuff was in my luggage and I changed into that once I was on base so I could blend in with people there.
If you watch Oz speech at the air force academy, he gives a great overview of some of the little things they did ahead of time that helped them succeed that night. They constantly simulated attacks on the Anex and how they'd respond. They had barrels of ammo, water, etc. already positioned on the roofs at the places they would have to fight. So they used this to be able to move quickly and not have to worry so much about carrying ammo or supplies with them. And they used all that ammo to make themselves appear like they were a much greater force, cause of the amount of rounds they could put downrange. Highly recommend you guys check it out if you haven't. Amazing speech and story.
I'm surprised there was no mention of how well the movie showed the "fog of war", when they are in the senators base and there's just dudes everywhere and you've got no clue if there good guys or bad guys or even just spectators. Plus the comment John makes of "It's just another night in Bengozie" where the locals are just so used to war they don't even go inside the house. This is definitely one of my top 3 realistic war movies of all time.
You know it’s a realistic movie when the CIA and government did what they did to discredit it. As if we’re gonna believe some spook denying he said “don’t leave the compound”
Him giving props to TRex is really cool. I’ve seen a lot of SOF and SF guys get offended by guys like him because “he’s never been shot at”, so it’s super cool to see a guy who’s chill about it.
T-Rex is not an operative special forces but you can see from his videos his outstanding abilities with firearms! Good to have guys like him who can help with hints, suggestions or improvements whoever might have use of it.
God bless you all for your service. My stepdad is a former PJ from the Vietnam war fighting his seventh cancer in 12 years. This will probably be his last. The sacrifices made by military personnel doesn’t end with their service. It’s a lifetime.
My father was a Marine in the Korean War for the duration. He died when I was young but there are only two things I remember him saying to me. The first was his answer to me asking him if he’d ever killed anyone. The only thing he said was: “They were shooting at me, so I shot back.” The second thing was his advice to me should I one future day find myself in the military. It was: “Never volunteer!”
It’s funny you say this. My father was a World War II veteran. Whenever I asked him if he had ever killed anybody in combat. His response would be; I never looked back son. I find this to be true in a lot of cases. I have nothing but the utmost respect for anybody that has served this country. And the majority of them will say something of similar nature. They did what they had to do, to protect not only our country, but their fellow soldiers. My uncle was also a World War II veteran. He was part of the marine detachment aboard the USS Lexington in the coral sea. To which the Japanese attacked without us having any warning. My father was never able to let that go. He loved his brother, like I love my dog or my children or grandson. But what you said in your comment, it’s so very true in many cases. If I happen to run across somebody bragging about how many people they killed in the service. I just walk away. Because chances are they’re full of shit, and they are claiming false valor.
@@nordan00 Thank you! I am very proud of my heritage. My father taught me to love the flag and our country. Even in the state it’s in at the current moment. I have no patience for those who fake the funk of being in the military. There is a lot of us out there who either fought for our country, died fighting for it, or are still active duty. When ever I see somebody, that is active, inactive, retired or did their tour. I make it a point, to say; God bless you for your services to this country.
@@nordan00 I really enjoy watching these guys videos. Because they have done their time in the mud and shed blood. The Benghazi story, I cannot watch all the way through, still to this day. There is a certain lady in the White House, who could’ve prevented this tragedy. Because there were US Marines not that far away. That’s what the email scandal was about. Those men died fighting for what they believed in! Because generally, your contractors/operators are veterans. Generally spec ops as well. That whole nightmare could have been prevented. Those are true heroes, as in anybody that serves this country or is willing to die for it. We are losing track and focus just how important the US military is to our freedoms. Even on the local level. Local lawn Forsmann, I was once a bad boy and a troublemaker. Now I have nothing but the utmost respect for them as well. Because they protect us as well. But God bless you my friend and thank you for your input.
I met some Korean war vet and he told me how bad it was . I worked with him in a day job painting an apartment . Got the job from a homeless shelter . He sometimes had a little too much alcohol . Anyway he told me one day the Koreans came in waves . It was all he did : shoot his targets and reload ASAP to keep shooting . And they just kept coming and coming . He thought he was going to die .
Former reg army 11C here. I was in 1AD for my time as active, so I was on the 120mm. We were deadly accurate, and were able to get rounds on target in no time. I would wager most mortar teams were like mine, no matter the size of the mortar. As long as we have coordinates to fire on, we're getting real close to target with the first round.
I was 9th ID 4.2 in an Armor Batt before going to 502nd in Berlin on the 4.2 battalion Mortars. We were one of the first 2 units to get the 120's to try in the early 90's before it was decided to transition over all.
Thanks for the great reaction video. A couple of things to clarify and highlight; GBRS is a privately owned and run group of tier1 type contractors. GRS is an arm of the CIA. GRS might well contract companies like GBRS or Constellis to provide the personnel for CIA personnel and asset protection, but they are different things. Embassy protection is tasked by DSS/DS/State Department. Again, they might contract companies like GBRS etc to provide the personnel. The crux of the Benghazi incident and the thrust of the movie was to highlight the difference between the threat assessment and level of personnel provided by the State Department for the embassy vs the CIA for their base. The DSS failed in it's mission to protect the embassy and it fell to the CIA operatives to try and intervene even though it wasn't their mission or 'job' and it meant stretching their own resources to do so. So it's not just about going to save the ambassador at all costs. What does stepping off your mission mean for you and those who you're tasked with protecting?
This is one of my favorite "comfort" movies. I think the reason why is because it is an excellent demonstration of how a small group of people with similar training and mindset can work so powerfully together as a team where each person gets equal respect and does their job instinctively.
I was still at my Marine Comm School when this attack happened. Both Generation Kill and The Pacific are very realistic series about being in combat. Tig, Oz and Tanto served at advisors for this is film
He's like John Wayne, who "Played John Wayne In Every Movie he made....Except that Genghis Khan Abomination.....and that character never let him down. John Krasinski, Plays The Self Same Character(Himself) in every movie he has made, that I've seen, which is most of them, if not all, and like John Wayne, Krasinski has parlayed that into Fame and Fortune, and I'm Glad he has. I always enjoy Actors who come across as "Real People", making me a fan of both "The Duke, and John Krasinski..........."The Office", I've Never seen, On Purpose. No way something like that is gonna "fit my pistol". What Blurbs I did see, did nothing to change my opinion....Weak Men Simping Thru Life and dealing with other Weak Men, has never interested me.....I Blame Alan Alda in MASH for the weakening of the American Male of the species, but I came to this conclusion years after I had Loyally seen every MASH episode Multiple Times, but Mercifully I was not infected, by the Dreaded Simp Virus, that Destroys All Testosterone in the Infected. :)
@@GypsyEncounters Very True, if that's all he got. I enjoyed the story enough to buy both the book and the film. All this talk is gonna make me watch it again & lose sleep tonight, but being 74 and Firmly Retired, all I Really Must Do is Feed My 9 Horses, and set up my new Desk Top, because Lightning Killed My Previous Setup, last weekend, and I didn't even get Rain on my pasture, just a Fried Laptop, Monitor, Modem, Phone....Not To Mention, my Water Well Controls from the Pole to the water tank, were Fried Like KFC Extra Krispy, but not a drop of Rain......What I did get was a quick lesson in how to drop $1000+ in a small Part of an afternoon, and have no Fun doing it. All a part of living this Rural Lifestyle, and being born on this place, I'm used to shit like that happening every year or so. I don't enjoy it, but I don't freak out about it either. Since it was built in 1949, this old Farm House has been Hit more times than George Foreman........We Duck Dodge, and Jump, all the while, Knowing that None of my "Gymnastics" will do one bit of good, but I'm kinda Jumpy as a General Rule, where Sudden Loud Noises are concerned. Old Habits, I guess
I’ve got the Blu-Ray and there’s some good behind the scenes. Tig, Tanto, Oz, Jack, and Boon were all involved with making the movie. They said it was the perfect mix of realism and M Bayed out. But they were happy with it.
I went into it expecting a typical Michael Bay CGI and explosion fest. I got that but the movie went beyond that. I'm 100% against US operations (and the operators that participated) in Libya since the illegal invasion and subsequent regime change, but that doesn't mean I can't like a criminally underrated movie.
Shawn Ryan just published his interview with Mark "OZ" Geist. He said that they had just received a shipment of ammo days before. So they had plenty of ammo already loaded in mags in 50cal ammo cans on each rooftop.
Had the pleasure of meeting “Rone” Woods at the bar he and a few other Seals opened up in Imperial Beach ,CA, before all this went down. Dude was super humble and down to earth. I was heartbroken to learn he was one of the guys who didn’t make it. Fuck the administration ten ways to Sunday that didn’t send them help
Thank the Republicans . Obama wanted to increase the budget BUT Republicans still think everyone loves America . They need to quit thinking that way . They voted against the increase .
In all genuineness, that first scene of engagement on the street was one of the most tense scenes I've ever seen filmed. Amazing job by the director, the cinematographer, the writer...the tension here was beyond simply "palpable". It was breathtaking!
I just wanna say as a fan of T-Rex arms myself, it's nice to hear someone with serious military background back him as a shooter that you can learn from, so many people dump on him as a "poser milsim loser that just shoots and doesn't have any real training" but his shooting ability is seriously amazing just through repetition and perfecting practice
I love when people say"real treaining" sime of the best training ive done was with me an friends, the army stifness makes things suck and you cant always actually get anything out of it
My question is what stopped TREX arms from serving?!? Others went to protect his freedom to make a few million dollars? That was his excuse?!? Wish I could’ve stayed behind to protect the BEER, PUSSY & WATCH NFL SUNDAY TICKET TARGET SHOOTING WITHOUT THE THREAT OF DEATH COMING BACK AT YOU IS NOT ANYWHERE NEAR COMPARISON OF COMBAT EXPERIENCE
@sparkybarkopolis6747 I'm just throwing my two cents in there. I served with great senior enlisted who had much experience. One of them makes top 10 shooters in the state. He had 3 combat deployments and such a chill guy. Ridiculous chill. I asked him tips when I left the army and wanted tips when I was in the Police academy trying to get expert in shooting quality. He gave me tips pointed me to t-Rex arms. Know a few TAC guys who took some things from T-Rex arms and implemented them into there methods. Help can come in different ways
Love the channel guys, thank you for your service. My father has always said that to me in work and in life don’t leave any man behind. He’s a Vietnam Veteran went in 69. He was in the big red one division during his time in country.
Vertical grips were for marines and airborne that were "door kickin' all day. To extend your arm with a C Clamp grip and hold it for 10-12 hours was too hard on arms and shoulders so they used vertical grips so they could rest thier elbows on their vest while clearsing rooms.
The first place I saw this movie was while I was in the waiting room at meps. This was the only movie that literally captivated everyone in the waiting room it was dead quiet while usually it’s pretty loud since everyone will be talking. I didn’t get to finish it and when I got home I was trying to figure out what I was watching and when I finally found it I rewatched it. Such a great movie!
Happy memorial day, i´m swedish so i dont know how important this is for you all, but i respect it i donate as much i can and i always pay respect to people who risk the life to help others...big big respect and love that you guys watch this movie...i really love it, yes and i do cry and feel for people, just take it haha. Love from sweden
At 34:35 when Tyrone is giving each person instructions on which roof to be on, I think it is very accurate for him to pull out the site plan, so that there is no confusion as to who is on which building. Keep in mind that everyone is running on adrinaline right now, so reinforcing the plan with a map ensures that there is no mixup. Also there are only 6 GRS guys so the others may not know the building names.
@@mongoose4117 unbeatable together. When I was in Afghanistan, Helmand province we were fighting for our lives every day because we took a building in a Taliban area, we called them platoon houses. Anyway we know next day as part of the surge we got nearly 1500 marines coming to help us but mainly to take the town and allow the locals to start the market again. I always think what was the Taliban reaction to seeing all these choppers coming in and the leathernecks getting off. Now we had the capability to send out patrols and go after the local Taliban. Took us and those marines 2-3 weeks to get garmsir nearly back to normal. I wonder what happens to those people who took money from ISAF to help in getting garmsir up and running again. I loved those marines, great lads, warriors and we fitted nicely. We decided no Taliban could beat marines, 3 para and the royal Irish rangers. Sidenote, America does war properly. The royal Irish lads had only a few pairs of nvgs so the marines outfitted them with their night vision. The rangers were excellent as well but those marines man, hard chargers
This movie right here is by far one of my favorite movies ever! I can’t stop watching it.. I could watch it over and over and over again! I love this breakdown of the movie and I love you man! Keep it up your doing amazing
I remember when I got the call one of my buddies from KAF killed himself, it really is one of the hardest calls you’ll ever get. You boys are right, John nailed that scene. Awesome content fellas!
Sean I just watched you on the Cleared Hot podcast. Your childhood and mine are very similar. I was once a Rakkasan 101st Airborne Medic. Your words really helped me to realize how much power I have to continue to change that trauma for the better. Thank you so much for sharing your stories with the world!
I love getting the real low down on these movies from you guys. I only have competition experience but admire your knowledge and skill set on these topics.
Great movie, one of my favorite combat movies! Great explanation from someone that had to make a speech when they back from Afghanistan to the hospital, it was tough to look at the fear in their eyes and to let them know they where safe at home!
This is one of my top favorite movies. In no order, 13 hours, Lone Survivor and American Sniper. Y’all killed it as usual! Keep it going I always look forward to these!
I love 13 hours but everytime I watch it I'm reminded of while I was walking out of the theater and i overheard some dude and his girl saying "I can't wait for the sequel" 😵💫
Something I'm sad they left out is the story of the interpreter that was 50 years old and when they went to the compound he was in the vehicles and ready to leave with them and he ended up helping out a lot
Tanto covered why he ask “you don’t have to go, but we promised them”. In the insurance red tape it specifically had a clause that said if you disobey orders your family gets no benefits or life insurance payouts . Or the insurance doesn’t have to pay should you get killed And the base chief told them to stand down. So they would be bucking orders by going. So he explained that was the reasoning for asking or one of the reasons.
If you're considering TV shows for Beers and Breakdowns, then I would really recommend the Mayor of Kingstown. The show it self is pretty good, imo, but there's some scenes intermixed in the season with some SWAT taking action and even the National Guard. Love the videos!
Thought Mayor of Kingston was a good show. The SWAT team leader is awesome. Takes care of business by any means possible, doesnt matter if it's by the book or not.
Also the part where the CAG guys toss his buddy over and that dude loses gets angry. I thought that was cool how the other said “now is not the time! The enemy is still out there!”
The 100% realization that the person, your friend is dead, not coming back. If u want to extract the body for his family and live, this is how it gets done. Very powerful part of movie.
Gentlemen, your review and breakdown of 13 Hours was truly informative and memorable to me. Look forward to viewing your other reviews. Much respect and appreciation for your guys' service.
I’ve been under siege three times. Twice in Vietnam and once in a foreign country as a private security contractor. In Nam we had air and pre set arty. We had rules of engagement. In a civilian situation you have nothing but what you bring with you. For civilian security work: Chinese Claymores cost $200 each back then. A box of hand grenades cost $500. In private civilian security work there were no rules of engagement. Anybody that showed up was an enemy… kids, sheep, women, cars… anything that moved was a target. Never trust the locals but always make friends with locals and give presents. Best way to dress locally is to go to a local used clothing store and get several changes. Most important… get local shoes. They can tell American made shoes. The guys in 13 hours really messed up. No claymores, no preset fields of fire, no shooting those sent to get their grids, no shooting the animals used to cover enemy movements.
YES!!! So glad y'all did this one finally. One of the greatest/ most important films of the last 20 years. (The acronym is GRS (Global Response Staff, part of the Agency's Special Activities Division (SAD)-- NOT GBRS) btw. Also, there was another program much like Ground Branch and GRS called Task Force Scorpion, same kind of work but under the NSA instead of the CIA.) There's also Global Resource Solutions, a Private Shell Contracting Company that works for the Agency/ State Dept. The interviews with Tanto/ Kris and Oz/ Mark and all the other guys willing to talk since the movie came out have been wild, especially since they know where AQ and the other players were, and the baddies knew exactly where they were even with the Clandestine designation/ framework and nature of the details (apart from what y'all said about standing out and not being "gray man", regional/ traditional or common wear for the area is absolutely important for proper low-pro operations). Mike Glover has also talked about the Benghazi incident and his involvement/ connection. The book(s) about this whole ordeal and series of Operations and other subsequent happenings are insane, and yeah the bureaucracy is just stupid (one of the big reasons I left Federal/ Defense Contracting). RIP Ambassador Stevens, Sean Smith, Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty. (Btw, I still use a Drop-Leg for an overt rig, and many Contractors and Federal requirements require such in various capacities (like overt PSD's, ERT's that i've been on, etc.), I've never had an issue with them.) Also hope you guys and everyone have a good Memorial Day. RIP to my brothers Elwell, Johnson, Johnson, Walker, and all the rest having given the ultimate sacrifice for freedom both in Military Action and Contracting in the safeguard of our Nation. Never Forgotten.
It was a much better movie than I had though it would be. They could have made it more didactical, more weeping, more wrapped in the flag (like Black Hawk Down). They kept it low-key and let the story speak for itself. That made it a much better movie.
Love your content gentleman. Appreciate you for reviewing the movie because the thoughts of veterans were on the forefront of our minds when the script came together.
The drop leg holster, which many of my coworkers still foolishly use, is a result of the Han Solo rig in Star Wars. It just is much cooler. Useless, but cooler. I think they used the building plans so that the audience gets an idea of where everyone is. It wasn’t done as a true tactical consideration, but for the audience to get an idea of what’s going on.
Some people use them because it is a little easier to draw your weapon while seated. I don't use one but a lot of guys do plus they get that Tacticool points.
I wore one when I served. But I served as a tanker, not infantry. For me it was more about keeping my side arm out of the way than "quick draw" ability. If I was dismounted I wore it on the lower right of my chest, as recommended by an SAS I met. Like me he fired rifles left handed and pistols right.
@@jodyhannah5931 Small world. I could fire rifle left handed when I went to basic, but they ran out of left handed holsters when they got to my name so I had to learn pistol right handed. So I shoot rifle left handed and pistol right handed.
13 hours is my favorite movie of all time! I've lost count how many times I've watched it. I would guess 40 to 50 times. I watch it from time to time while I'm working out at home. I think my obsession with it is, this freaking happened, their selflessness, stone cold get the job done attitude, screw the consequences when doing the right thing, screw the odds, enemy numbers, and so much more.
I couldn't comment on your Top Gun video, so I thought I'd communicate here. Top Gun was a great movie, esp having brother being plane captain for F-4 fighter jet on Enterprise aircraft carrier during VN. In Oregon we grew up fishing. Imagine the rush catching 60lb salmon when you weigh 40lbs? All my dad's fishing partners were war heros in my eyes. One had a son year older than me. We only met while fishing because we went to different schools. This son always talks flying. After graduation he joined military academy and got his pilots license. Then he learned to fly jets. Then he started being a jet test pilot. Then he was nominated for space shuttle. His new wife said no to space, so he became commander of air National Guard. One day he flew jet too Miramar an participated in Top Gun, graduated from course. We meet in local Harley Davidson dealer. He asked me what I was doing over weekend? We're going sailing with Harry's sailboat on Timothy Lake. Cool, watch for me! While out in sailboat, we hear rumble of jet engines get louder. Then we see 4 jets in formation right above tree height. Jets even lower closer over lake where we see 4 rooster tails. The 4 group split into pairs ,now flying on each side of our sailboat. Harry's screaming jets are lower than his mainsail. I see my friend salute me while waving his wings at me. I can clearly see his eyes above his mask. He brought group together of 4 together, flying around Mt Hood and back too Portland. Everyone in boats an on shore are screaming, jumping up an down, pointing to the jets! I had a set of 4 jets find an wave too me, lead by a real Top Gun! I'll never forget the encounter!
I remember one time at a friends house in Mexico a guy goes walking past all the windows in the front yard , everybody goes out to look for him , and find nobody. Meanwhile the other guys in masks with guns are already in the house tying up everybody as they came back one at a time. Talk about falling for the oldest trick in the book, that's exactly what the comanches used to do. Have a good Memorial day everybody and be safe.
A great video. I totally agree with pretty much everything you said. Probably because I am a crappy runner, I hate drop leg holsters. Being from the PASGT era, I assumed that drop legs were to get around the armor being in the way. I love your take on Grey Man. My version is: Don't try to be something you obviously are not. Give people a stereotype story they are already inclined to believe. Additional: The scene with the locals griping about pay... yeah... That reminds so much of bureaucratic work and corporate work... People lose a quarter because they won't let go of a penny. Both bean counters and Captain America types often seem to forget that bribery is a very real and accepted thing in much of the world. And, often, it's not cash. I have bribed people with a pack of Marlboro or a carton of Budweiser or a Zippo lighter. In an event security situation, I have bribed people with Dixie cups of water. It's building rapport before stuff goes to crap. So that when it goes South... and it will, people go: This is the nice guy. Let me give him a head's up. We can't rely on it. But the cost of doing it is miniscule.
Now I gotta watch this movie because when I was in the Army, I went to the area where the airport scene was filmed for a few weeks. It’s in Morocco. That’s the same Base where the hangar scenes from Blackhawk Down were filmed.
Our qrt in ramadi was about 20 to 30 mins response. They had to leave from camp ramadi to us at thr APD or SHARKBASE, OR SOMETIMES BLUE DIAMOND. Depends where we're running missions to.
Also, one last thing. I too have had the unfortunate experience of the wrong end of a 81mm mortar. Was in Sader City back in 08 4 days after my birthday when our base got hit with multiple mortars. Guess it was a belated birthday present. It landed 9 feet to my right. Only thing the prevented me from being Swiss cheese was where it landed, next to a T wall. I guess, from witnesses, the molten metal went around me blowing me back several feet to my left. When I came to, it felt like the entire right side of my face and head was blown off. All I remember was, that I yelled out, “You Missed Me Mother Fuckers!!” Then passed out again. Until I woke up in the CCP at JSS UR. Guess God must have more for me to do in this world.
Reminds me of Zach Hazard's story during ine of his deployements. Basically their outpost was getting mortared so often, almost everday/night, that he and most dudes in the post were becoming more and more complacent about it since, according to him atleast, they only hit the basketball field or soccer field (can't remember what it was specifically tho, sorry). Anyway, he went out of the barracks building, or whatever it was called, and lazily walked his way to the shelter, all exasperated and exhausted and what not. While on the way, he calmly takes a cig out and was in the middle of lighting it when one landed 100 feet away from him. He shat his pants, panicked and just hauled ass towards the shelter.
"All the gods, all the heavens, all the hells, are within you." I love this movie. Those guys shouldn't have been abandoned. The cruel irony of it happening on 9/11 2012. There was a comment I saw from a guy who knew a US Marine who was serving in the QRF in Germany. Their CO was on the call for hours with some stooge from the State Department for who refused to give them clerance to go to Libya.
@@thomast8539 True, but it was Hillary who was the head of State Department at the time. Her people refused to allow boots on the ground to rescue stranded Americans under siege. US has huge millitary bases in Italy, it wouldn't have been a huge deal to send a fighter squadron to do a fly over...
The Team House podcast interviewed Sarah Carlson, a Middle East CIA analyst who was directly paired with the American ambassador in Libya before all this happened. She repeatedly tried to get the ambassador to abandon the post but he repeatedly refused more intense security measures, protection, etc. right up to his demise. I recommend it th-cam.com/video/It-Dc83uuRo/w-d-xo.html
Two war films that got me. 1) Saving Private Ryan. 2) 13 Hours. SPR was the first movie to make my stomach turn with that opening scene when I was a kid. 13 Hours pissed me off cuz I had just joined the Army and was old enough to understand what was happening.
I was a PFC with a TS clearance I carried over from Navy Indoc before a conditional release to Army Infantry. It was dumb. Had to go to briefings with Majors and Captains and i was just a TL (team leader on Brads)
what i love about this movie is Michael Bay had the actual operators on the ground (big fan of Tanto and follow him heavily) and he wanted to get the movie as accurate as possible from how fighting actually is, to the true emotion a solider/operator feels from start to the end of it
I love 5.11 and Vertx. My day to day useful clothes around the farm. They aren't for "blending in" (except at my home). They are for convenience, comfort, and usefulness.
Civilian and new to your channel. It's always better to learn from the people who lived what Hollywood takes license with. Tons of respect for the job you do and sharing your experience. I'm likely watching episodes out of order as I just subscribed. So coming off both Sicario reviews into 13 Hours had a moment of irony that I'm sure someone else has mentioned. The respect you pointed out for John Krasinski nailing the calling home scene and how moving it was. Almost immediately after that serious moment I laughed at how annoyed you were by Emily Blunt as the FBI agent who's character was out of her depth. She is married to John. I'd love to see them react to your breakdowns. lol Thank you for your service and explaining details of how things work in the real world vs Hollywood BS. Cheers!
Keep rolling in guys, I personally enjoy your videos and have learned a lot about combat cause u give the real prospective killing the Hollywood aspect. Nice video love form 🇮🇳
Where did the term "Grey Man" come from? Robert Jordan's "Wheel of Time?" (Grey man were assassins' for "The Dark One") I've never heard that term used in any military conversations I've had.
Had his back to the sun and kept his sunglasses on to prevent the white paint in the stairwell from glaring into his eyes too. Perfect placement and shot composition too.
OMG. This was an awesome movie. Good, bad, indifferent. What those guys went through was devastating. No help came when they called. Until the next day. Upper management did them wrong. From the bottom of my heart, "Thank you for your service".
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please do "Midway" and "Greyhound"
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It's from combat story, it's an interesting view with "Tanto" about 13 hours
Have either of you ever seen Hamburger Hill? It's probably my favorite movie set during the Vietnam War, top 3 with Platoon and We Were Soldiers
you should do Tigerland. I thought it was great at showing all the boot camp personalities you encounter amongst those that sign up. its an entire boot camp NTC film set for vietnam.
I think it was to show people the lay out. Using the map.
"If it looks fishy, if it smells fishy, there's f*cking fish around, its time to bang hammers!" Needs to be on a t-shirt, what a one liner 😂
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I was thinking the same thing about the "looks like a duck, fucking quacks like a duck...shit's a duck" lmao
@@loma8834 YESS!! 😂😭
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Definitely need this on a tee
Fun fact: the contractor that came to help them, Glen "Bub" Doherty, was one of the Navy SEALs who helped save Captain Phillips during the Somali pirates hostage situation.
Super stud, I'm AUS but i knew who this dude was awhile ago haha
RIP
The Siege of Jadotville could be a cool one ! True story, An Irish commander and his battalion of 150 men withstand a siege by 3,000 Congolese troops led by French and Belgian mercenaries working for mining corporations.
Definitely
Heartbreaking story. The film definitely does a great job conveying the despair of the situation
greatest thing about that battle is they all lived.
Also, this is what happens when Irish people are sober.
Corporations that engage in warfare like that should be imprisoned or executed for crimes against humanity
The crying part was so good because you could tell he didnt believe it until that moment he made the call he had to say it out loud for it to sink in thats a good actor right there
Lost a friend back in January 2008 in Iraq. Ryan Maseth was with 5th group. Had the pleasure of meeting him when my M4 took a shit. Since he was the armorer, he took apart the trigger mechanism, and fixed it on the spot. Got to spend some good time with him, and got to know him, and his family. He was a very humble guy. One would never know he was in group. I will always think of him on this sacred day. You are missed my friend.
Sorry for your loss Sir.
The way both of you drew breath when the mortar scene came on gave me chills! It could only come from real fighting men who have either been on the receiving end or have applied these deadly high-arching trajectory weapons. I salute you!
I love the mindset of "proficiency is proficiency" Takes ego out of the equation and just becomes result focused.
Them making a "decision" to go, is all about those people who CHOOSE to join. You guys are a different breed, and I'm honored you CHOSE to join to defend us.
"13 Hours" is quickly becoming one of my favorite movies. I served in the Marines with a man named John. John got fucked over by our command and left the Marines to go work with Black Water. His first day on contract he's walking through the team room and a guy looks over his shoulder and says "Holy shit, you look like your into lifting weights, my name is Kris Paranto but people call me Tanto" and now John makes all of Tatnto's kydex.
Hellyeah that's awesome.
are u telling me this is where the tanto knives and holsters originated?
@@Timmeh010 No that was just his handle/nickname/callsign
I work in one of the embassies overseas and David Urban was one of our RSO's. He's the black guy in the movie but he's white in real life. Nice guy but didn't get to know him to well to ask him about this. Kinda felt uncomfortable approaching him about it.
why do the marines fuck their own over so much. I don't get it.
I was working alongside some British operator in Kandahar city back in 2009. For almost 3 hours I had no idea he was who he was because he blended in so well. Then finally he spoke up when a particular song came on and he said on a very obvious British voice "fockin luv this tune."
Who was it?
@@ryanbrown4053 oh hell, that was 15 years ago. Can't remember the dudes name.
@@teranceelford6537probably wasn't his real name anyways LOL
I'm pretty sure that if John Krasinski is in something, that viewing experience is going to be extremely memorable. That being said, 13 hours has become one of my all time favorite films.
I agree absolutely love this movie
it's on my list of movies to watch
Is it crossed off the list yet?@@karenrhoads1598
I absolutely love this movie but it also does such a great job of getting my blood boiling at the complete and utter failure that could’ve been so easily avoided.
This role help John get the Jack Ryan lead. Which is why that series is so good. Finally an actor(and the writers) that remembers that Ryan was a Marine. This was a complete f@#$up by the State Department. It was the skill and bravery of the operators that kept this from being a massacre. We can only hope that station chief was given a useless desk job after that butt job.
Benghazi was a bees nest and the locals thought they could get some honey. State Department only hires ex operators which means someone got tailed back to base. It's not like the locals got a wild hair up their ass for no reason. Somebody stirred up some shit and that has to be one hell of a story to tell
Pretty sure he got some fancy medal and retired a few weeks later (he states in the movie that this outpost is his last op) likely with a hefty retirement and/or some huge ranch-like property.
Like the four state at the end of the movie when they’re waiting for the plane home at the airport; the green berets who were there for two seconds and did next to nothing got medals, the chief got a med, everyone got a medal except for them as they’re hired guns and not technically military. Although I believe they had some private ceremony and received some stupid medal that means nothing - just so they shut up, basically.
The system is fucked up. To put it extremely lightly.
@@DropBear_42 Part of Being a contractor/Merc is not getting medals. The point of using contractors is to not have a paper trail or admit you had anything to do with it. Yeah they did good but why should they get medals? If you want medals and glory stay in the military.
prolly got promoted
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4:24 GBRS is the company former DEVGRU operators DJ Shipley and Cole Fackler own, GRS is the agencys Global Response Staff
Right it was pissing me off hearing then get that confused
@@gman21266 GBRS is a gear company owned by former DEVGRU guys and has nothing to do with tactics or Benghazi I think is the point he was making.
@@MorteFortuna89 They have a lot to do with Tactics. They are a gear company second, and a training company first. They teach federal, state, and local law enforcement CQB and Sniping.
@@ThunderTaco206 I agree. Looks like the previous comment is gone. It sounded like he was saying that GBRS was responsible for the ttps we saw in the movie but I can’t really remember.
Shipley never was Devgru though?
Hey fellas. Great video. Former MARSOC dude here. I was dying laughing during the whole "grey man" discussion. So spot on! It's SO true! No matter how many classes you take on blending in to local environments, you ALWAYS still see dudes rocking tan/grey/green tactical pants with (fill in the blank outdoor clothing brand) hiking boots and some plaid button up and ball cap. You're not blending in to shit hahaha. Body of Lies with Leo and Russell Crowe where Leo plays a CIA dude was one of the best portrayals. He wasn't Mr. Tactical but not too tactical. He wore local garb without donning an actual man dress and hijab. Looked like a loser in goodwill clothing which is so much better than the dudes who wear the same cliché bland tactical clothing they would wear on the range out in country. Spot on. Love the stuff!
Yo Brother 0321 FORECON here, going native or being put in the position where that might be a mission requirement is one of the reasons I didn't opt for selection and indoc into the 0372 in 05, did it once in 98 with our Aussie counterparts in East Timour and it damn near got us all killed, I'd rather blend in with the terrain then the natives thank you very much besides we are a limited DA element we have you Raiders for the heavy lifting sure we can provide you some DA/overwatch/QRF if need be but as it goes you have your op profile we have ours you have the training and gear for a much broader scope of DA so drop your CCT/JTAC with us and go kick some ass devil dogs we'll watch the ingress and egress points and any froggy MFer's not in your LOS.
There's a scene in that show The Terminal List where an ex-marine contractor guy has been sent to kill Chris Pratt, but he notices him because he's wearing a plaid shirt, raggedy ball cap, wraparound shades, and has a big beard. I thought that was dumb because the guy knows he's going after a SEAL, and couldn't have been trying any harder to look like ex SOF. But I guess it was realistic. Still dumb as fuck to actually do that though.
I remember going into Iraq the first time as a contractor. My group and I flew into BIAP on the civilian side. One guy was dressed like a surf bum and the other 12 were dressed in the "tactical tuxedo" look, down to the combat boots and three day assault packs as carry on. One dude even had a Pork Eating Crusader morale patch on his shit. I was dressed in slacks, long sleeve white dress shirt, and decent shoes. My carry on luggage was a roller suitcase.
If anyone had asked I would have told them I was working for a service and logistics company doing relief efforts.
Long story short I got through immigration in 15 minutes and pulled security on everyone's checked luggage so the Iraqis couldn't rat fuck our shit and everyone else stayed in the holding area for 2 hours.
You don't have to dress like a local, just don't dress like an off duty operator. All my tactical tuxedo stuff was in my luggage and I changed into that once I was on base so I could blend in with people there.
Me? I know who I am! I'm the dude playing a dude disguised as another dude.
If you watch Oz speech at the air force academy, he gives a great overview of some of the little things they did ahead of time that helped them succeed that night. They constantly simulated attacks on the Anex and how they'd respond. They had barrels of ammo, water, etc. already positioned on the roofs at the places they would have to fight. So they used this to be able to move quickly and not have to worry so much about carrying ammo or supplies with them. And they used all that ammo to make themselves appear like they were a much greater force, cause of the amount of rounds they could put downrange. Highly recommend you guys check it out if you haven't. Amazing speech and story.
I'm surprised there was no mention of how well the movie showed the "fog of war", when they are in the senators base and there's just dudes everywhere and you've got no clue if there good guys or bad guys or even just spectators. Plus the comment John makes of "It's just another night in Bengozie" where the locals are just so used to war they don't even go inside the house. This is definitely one of my top 3 realistic war movies of all time.
You know it’s a realistic movie when the CIA and government did what they did to discredit it. As if we’re gonna believe some spook denying he said “don’t leave the compound”
Him giving props to TRex is really cool. I’ve seen a lot of SOF and SF guys get offended by guys like him because “he’s never been shot at”, so it’s super cool to see a guy who’s chill about it.
It’s because he is secure in who he is and well rounded. A true humble professional. Bad ass.
T-Rex is not an operative special forces but you can see from his videos his outstanding abilities with firearms! Good to have guys like him who can help with hints, suggestions or improvements whoever might have use of it.
Nice!!! 47 minutes!!!
I hope Beers & Breakdowns will be as close to an hour as possible going forward 🤞
God bless you all for your service. My stepdad is a former PJ from the Vietnam war fighting his seventh cancer in 12 years. This will probably be his last. The sacrifices made by military personnel doesn’t end with their service. It’s a lifetime.
My father was a Marine in the Korean War for the duration. He died when I was young but there are only two things I remember him saying to me. The first was his answer to me asking him if he’d ever killed anyone. The only thing he said was: “They were shooting at me, so I shot back.” The second thing was his advice to me should I one future day find myself in the military. It was: “Never volunteer!”
It’s funny you say this. My father was a World War II veteran. Whenever I asked him if he had ever killed anybody in combat. His response would be; I never looked back son. I find this to be true in a lot of cases. I have nothing but the utmost respect for anybody that has served this country. And the majority of them will say something of similar nature. They did what they had to do, to protect not only our country, but their fellow soldiers. My uncle was also a World War II veteran. He was part of the marine detachment aboard the USS Lexington in the coral sea. To which the Japanese attacked without us having any warning. My father was never able to let that go. He loved his brother, like I love my dog or my children or grandson. But what you said in your comment, it’s so very true in many cases. If I happen to run across somebody bragging about how many people they killed in the service. I just walk away. Because chances are they’re full of shit, and they are claiming false valor.
@@georgee.juscott2686 Well said and I agree totally!
@@nordan00 Thank you! I am very proud of my heritage. My father taught me to love the flag and our country. Even in the state it’s in at the current moment. I have no patience for those who fake the funk of being in the military. There is a lot of us out there who either fought for our country, died fighting for it, or are still active duty. When ever I see somebody, that is active, inactive, retired or did their tour. I make it a point, to say; God bless you for your services to this country.
@@nordan00 I really enjoy watching these guys videos. Because they have done their time in the mud and shed blood. The Benghazi story, I cannot watch all the way through, still to this day. There is a certain lady in the White House, who could’ve prevented this tragedy. Because there were US Marines not that far away. That’s what the email scandal was about. Those men died fighting for what they believed in! Because generally, your contractors/operators are veterans. Generally spec ops as well. That whole nightmare could have been prevented. Those are true heroes, as in anybody that serves this country or is willing to die for it. We are losing track and focus just how important the US military is to our freedoms. Even on the local level. Local lawn Forsmann, I was once a bad boy and a troublemaker. Now I have nothing but the utmost respect for them as well. Because they protect us as well. But God bless you my friend and thank you for your input.
I met some Korean war vet and he told me how bad it was . I worked with him in a day job painting an apartment . Got the job from a homeless shelter . He sometimes had a little too much alcohol . Anyway he told me one day the Koreans came in waves . It was all he did : shoot his targets and reload ASAP to keep shooting . And they just kept coming and coming . He thought he was going to die .
Former reg army 11C here. I was in 1AD for my time as active, so I was on the 120mm.
We were deadly accurate, and were able to get rounds on target in no time. I would wager most mortar teams were like mine, no matter the size of the mortar. As long as we have coordinates to fire on, we're getting real close to target with the first round.
I was 9th ID 4.2 in an Armor Batt before going to 502nd in Berlin on the 4.2 battalion Mortars. We were one of the first 2 units to get the 120's to try in the early 90's before it was decided to transition over all.
0341usmc 81mm! tube strokers Deadly fingers!
High angle hell
Thanks for the great reaction video. A couple of things to clarify and highlight; GBRS is a privately owned and run group of tier1 type contractors. GRS is an arm of the CIA. GRS might well contract companies like GBRS or Constellis to provide the personnel for CIA personnel and asset protection, but they are different things.
Embassy protection is tasked by DSS/DS/State Department. Again, they might contract companies like GBRS etc to provide the personnel. The crux of the Benghazi incident and the thrust of the movie was to highlight the difference between the threat assessment and level of personnel provided by the State Department for the embassy vs the CIA for their base. The DSS failed in it's mission to protect the embassy and it fell to the CIA operatives to try and intervene even though it wasn't their mission or 'job' and it meant stretching their own resources to do so. So it's not just about going to save the ambassador at all costs. What does stepping off your mission mean for you and those who you're tasked with protecting?
This is one of my favorite "comfort" movies. I think the reason why is because it is an excellent demonstration of how a small group of people with similar training and mindset can work so powerfully together as a team where each person gets equal respect and does their job instinctively.
I was still at my Marine Comm School when this attack happened. Both Generation Kill and The Pacific are very realistic series about being in combat. Tig, Oz and Tanto served at advisors for this is film
John Krasinski has always been an incredible actor imo, even from the very beginning of The Office when he was waiting tables. Love that man.
your take away from this movie is the actor? Ya,
I'd say that's about right in this day and age.
@@GypsyEncountersThe movie wouldn’t be good if the actor wasn’t good. Calm down tough guy.
He's like John Wayne, who "Played John Wayne In Every Movie he made....Except that Genghis Khan Abomination.....and that character never let him down.
John Krasinski, Plays The Self Same Character(Himself) in every movie he has made, that I've seen, which is most of them, if not all, and like John Wayne, Krasinski has parlayed that into Fame and Fortune, and I'm Glad he has. I always enjoy Actors who come across as "Real People", making me a fan of both "The Duke, and John Krasinski..........."The Office", I've Never seen, On Purpose. No way something like that is gonna "fit my pistol". What Blurbs I did see, did nothing to change my opinion....Weak Men Simping Thru Life and dealing with other Weak Men, has never interested me.....I Blame Alan Alda in MASH for the weakening of the American Male of the species, but I came to this conclusion years after I had Loyally seen every MASH episode Multiple Times, but Mercifully I was not infected, by the Dreaded Simp Virus, that Destroys All Testosterone in the Infected. :)
@@GypsyEncounters Very True, if that's all he got. I enjoyed the story enough to buy both the book and the film. All this talk is gonna make me watch it again & lose sleep tonight, but being 74 and Firmly Retired, all I Really Must Do is Feed My 9 Horses, and set up my new Desk Top, because Lightning Killed My Previous Setup, last weekend, and I didn't even get Rain on my pasture, just a Fried Laptop, Monitor, Modem, Phone....Not To Mention, my Water Well Controls from the Pole to the water tank, were Fried Like KFC Extra Krispy, but not a drop of Rain......What I did get was a quick lesson in how to drop $1000+ in a small Part of an afternoon, and have no Fun doing it.
All a part of living this Rural Lifestyle, and being born on this place, I'm used to shit like that happening every year or so.
I don't enjoy it, but I don't freak out about it either.
Since it was built in 1949, this old Farm House has been Hit more times than George Foreman........We Duck Dodge, and Jump, all the while, Knowing that None of my "Gymnastics" will do one bit of good, but I'm kinda Jumpy as a General Rule, where Sudden Loud Noises are concerned. Old Habits, I guess
I’ve got the Blu-Ray and there’s some good behind the scenes. Tig, Tanto, Oz, Jack, and Boon were all involved with making the movie. They said it was the perfect mix of realism and M Bayed out. But they were happy with it.
I went into it expecting a typical Michael Bay CGI and explosion fest. I got that but the movie went beyond that. I'm 100% against US operations (and the operators that participated) in Libya since the illegal invasion and subsequent regime change, but that doesn't mean I can't like a criminally underrated movie.
Me too. But right now, I can watch the movie on TH-cam!
Shawn Ryan just published his interview with Mark "OZ" Geist. He said that they had just received a shipment of ammo days before. So they had plenty of ammo already loaded in mags in 50cal ammo cans on each rooftop.
Had the pleasure of meeting “Rone” Woods at the bar he and a few other Seals opened up in Imperial Beach ,CA, before all this went down. Dude was super humble and down to earth. I was heartbroken to learn he was one of the guys who didn’t make it. Fuck the administration ten ways to Sunday that didn’t send them help
Thank the Republicans . Obama wanted to increase the budget BUT Republicans still think everyone loves America . They need to quit thinking that way . They voted against the increase .
Karma and the Higher Power continues to make HRC uglier and fatter and more repulsive with each passing year.
Yay lazy politicians that people vote in... Think about how the average person is so stupid. Then American politics doesn't seem so far fetched.
It was at the military level, always the brass
Was this at the Salty Frog?
In all genuineness, that first scene of engagement on the street was one of the most tense scenes I've ever seen filmed. Amazing job by the director, the cinematographer, the writer...the tension here was beyond simply "palpable". It was breathtaking!
Thank you guys for making these videos. And thank you for your service
Our pleasure!
I just wanna say as a fan of T-Rex arms myself, it's nice to hear someone with serious military background back him as a shooter that you can learn from, so many people dump on him as a "poser milsim loser that just shoots and doesn't have any real training" but his shooting ability is seriously amazing just through repetition and perfecting practice
i'd trust him over a lot of those military guys. hell they might even side with the government if shtf with how they talk about non military citizens.
I love when people say"real treaining" sime of the best training ive done was with me an friends, the army stifness makes things suck and you cant always actually get anything out of it
My question is what stopped TREX arms from serving?!? Others went to protect his freedom to make a few million dollars? That was his excuse?!? Wish I could’ve stayed behind to protect the BEER, PUSSY & WATCH NFL SUNDAY TICKET
TARGET SHOOTING WITHOUT THE THREAT OF DEATH COMING BACK AT YOU IS NOT ANYWHERE NEAR COMPARISON OF COMBAT EXPERIENCE
@@sparkybarkopolis6747 some just dont, dont hate, im serving currently and have no hate for the man
@sparkybarkopolis6747 I'm just throwing my two cents in there. I served with great senior enlisted who had much experience. One of them makes top 10 shooters in the state. He had 3 combat deployments and such a chill guy. Ridiculous chill. I asked him tips when I left the army and wanted tips when I was in the Police academy trying to get expert in shooting quality. He gave me tips pointed me to t-Rex arms. Know a few TAC guys who took some things from T-Rex arms and implemented them into there methods. Help can come in different ways
that scene at the end is beyond tear jerking powerful, all the way up to the stars of the wall
Love the channel guys, thank you for your service. My father has always said that to me in work and in life don’t leave any man behind. He’s a Vietnam Veteran went in 69. He was in the big red one division during his time in country.
Vertical grips were for marines and airborne that were "door kickin' all day. To extend your arm with a C Clamp grip and hold it for 10-12 hours was too hard on arms and shoulders so they used vertical grips so they could rest thier elbows on their vest while clearsing rooms.
i love the hubris of explaining vertical foregrips to sf guys
@@ireilly2000 Ya... I've never been weak in the hubris department.
@@kevinvanderschaaf3482 never change bud
How many doors were we kicking in 1995?
@@jameybaxter Desert storm 1991-92, Bengazi 1993-94. and so on...
The first place I saw this movie was while I was in the waiting room at meps. This was the only movie that literally captivated everyone in the waiting room it was dead quiet while usually it’s pretty loud since everyone will be talking. I didn’t get to finish it and when I got home I was trying to figure out what I was watching and when I finally found it I rewatched it. Such a great movie!
One of my favorite flicks! Thanks , guys! Never forget those who gave all. Have a blessed Memorial Day.
Happy memorial day, i´m swedish so i dont know how important this is for you all, but i respect it i donate as much i can and i always pay respect to people who risk the life to help others...big big respect and love that you guys watch this movie...i really love it, yes and i do cry and feel for people, just take it haha. Love from sweden
Can you get Kurt to say “ok, who wants a mustache ride?!” Just once 😂😂. Love the content by the way, great work as usual 👊
So much of my authority is derived from the powers right here…
@@fng_kurt9617 careful bro I think he wants to give you German NVG'S
@@fng_kurt9617 It's all about the throat technique. Maple Syrup.
that little guy? wouldn't worry about that little guy.
At 34:35 when Tyrone is giving each person instructions on which roof to be on, I think it is very accurate for him to pull out the site plan, so that there is no confusion as to who is on which building. Keep in mind that everyone is running on adrinaline right now, so reinforcing the plan with a map ensures that there is no mixup. Also there are only 6 GRS guys so the others may not know the building names.
IIRC in the book it was said that only one or two state department guys visited the CIA annex, and they only visited a couple of times.
Hey buck, I'm from the UK but I'd like to thank you and curt for your service to the free world. AMERICA BABY
thanks homie
UK....BABY😍💪😃from an American.✌
'Murica,Fuck yeah!
@@mongoose4117 unbeatable together. When I was in Afghanistan, Helmand province we were fighting for our lives every day because we took a building in a Taliban area, we called them platoon houses. Anyway we know next day as part of the surge we got nearly 1500 marines coming to help us but mainly to take the town and allow the locals to start the market again. I always think what was the Taliban reaction to seeing all these choppers coming in and the leathernecks getting off. Now we had the capability to send out patrols and go after the local Taliban. Took us and those marines 2-3 weeks to get garmsir nearly back to normal. I wonder what happens to those people who took money from ISAF to help in getting garmsir up and running again. I loved those marines, great lads, warriors and we fitted nicely. We decided no Taliban could beat marines, 3 para and the royal Irish rangers. Sidenote, America does war properly. The royal Irish lads had only a few pairs of nvgs so the marines outfitted them with their night vision. The rangers were excellent as well but those marines man, hard chargers
@@robdean704 hell ya, Rob. I am ex Army Infantry( 11c, mortarmaggot💪👌)thank you....💪💥😳😁
This movie right here is by far one of my favorite movies ever! I can’t stop watching it.. I could watch it over and over and over again! I love this breakdown of the movie and I love you man! Keep it up your doing amazing
A perfect film for Memorial Day weekend.
Thank you gentlemen for your service and may those we have lost not be forgotten, but forever be remembered.
"13 Hours" is one of my top 10 military movies of all time! Love your reactions and insights! Keep up the good work!
That phone call at the end tears my heart out.
I remember when I got the call one of my buddies from KAF killed himself, it really is one of the hardest calls you’ll ever get. You boys are right, John nailed that scene. Awesome content fellas!
You & Kurt are awesome! Thank you for taking the time to make this content👍🏼 please keep doing more of these!
Best episode yet! Great job. I've got a whole new appreciation for the attention to detail in the movie.
Love this movie. I watch it at least once an underway with my watch section. Thank you for the breakdown on tactics and love your content.
Sean I just watched you on the Cleared Hot podcast. Your childhood and mine are very similar. I was once a Rakkasan 101st Airborne Medic. Your words really helped me to realize how much power I have to continue to change that trauma for the better. Thank you so much for sharing your stories with the world!
Dang that’s me rn
Best one yet! Keep rocking it, guys.
Thanks! Will do!
This one of the few movies I have watched over and over again and actually enjoyed it each time. Most movies I only watch once.
Thank You Sean & Kurt for your service!!!
I love getting the real low down on these movies from you guys. I only have competition experience but admire your knowledge and skill set on these topics.
Finally they reacted to 13 hours. One of the best of Bay's movie.
Great movie, one of my favorite combat movies! Great explanation from someone that had to make a speech when they back from Afghanistan to the hospital, it was tough to look at the fear in their eyes and to let them know they where safe at home!
Love this show
I been waiting for this specific one for a long time
Keep up the work bros
Hope you enjoyed it!
@@FNGACADEMY loved it
I've always pulled back on my front grip to keep it tight into the groove & it just works for me.
This is one of my top favorite movies. In no order, 13 hours, Lone Survivor and American Sniper. Y’all killed it as usual! Keep it going I always look forward to these!
Watch "Without Remour's" (Its from a Tom Clancy Novel).
@@ineedpowers5151I would not recommend that movie. All woke BS. The novel is one of Clancy’s. Read the book.
I love 13 hours but everytime I watch it I'm reminded of while I was walking out of the theater and i overheard some dude and his girl saying "I can't wait for the sequel" 😵💫
Something I'm sad they left out is the story of the interpreter that was 50 years old and when they went to the compound he was in the vehicles and ready to leave with them and he ended up helping out a lot
That was a very funny part of the movie. How they said; well that guy won't be coming back. FLMAO.
Tanto covered why he ask “you don’t have to go, but we promised them”. In the insurance red tape it specifically had a clause that said if you disobey orders your family gets no benefits or life insurance payouts . Or the insurance doesn’t have to pay should you get killed And the base chief told them to stand down. So they would be bucking orders by going. So he explained that was the reasoning for asking or one of the reasons.
If you're considering TV shows for Beers and Breakdowns, then I would really recommend the Mayor of Kingstown. The show it self is pretty good, imo, but there's some scenes intermixed in the season with some SWAT taking action and even the National Guard.
Love the videos!
Thought Mayor of Kingston was a good show. The SWAT team leader is awesome. Takes care of business by any means possible, doesnt matter if it's by the book or not.
That’s one show that I’ve been meaning to watch. Looks dope af.
Its a dope show, loved it.. good suggestion
@@noerosas7691 Robert Sawyer is one of the most hardcore, badasses i ever saw on tv. That dude never fucks around.
Great show.
One of my favorite movies and books of all time, thanks for covering this one
Also the part where the CAG guys toss his buddy over and that dude loses gets angry. I thought that was cool how the other said “now is not the time! The enemy is still out there!”
The 100% realization that the person, your friend is dead, not coming back. If u want to extract the body for his family and live, this is how it gets done. Very powerful part of movie.
Yup. Very poignant 💪
Gentlemen, your review and breakdown of 13 Hours was truly informative and memorable to me. Look forward to viewing your other reviews. Much respect and appreciation for your guys' service.
I've always wondered the reason for the different styles of holding the front grip and you just explained it at 32:03. Thank you for that!
I’ve been under siege three times. Twice in Vietnam and once in a foreign country as a private security contractor. In Nam we had air and pre set arty. We had rules of engagement.
In a civilian situation you have nothing but what you bring with you.
For civilian security work: Chinese Claymores cost $200 each back then. A box of hand grenades cost $500. In private civilian security work there were no rules of engagement. Anybody that showed up was an enemy… kids, sheep, women, cars… anything that moved was a target.
Never trust the locals but always make friends with locals and give presents.
Best way to dress locally is to go to a local used clothing store and get several changes. Most important… get local shoes. They can tell American made shoes.
The guys in 13 hours really messed up. No claymores, no preset fields of fire, no shooting those sent to get their grids, no shooting the animals used to cover enemy movements.
This is one of my favorite movies, and you gentlemen did a great job analyzing. Subbed!
YES!!! So glad y'all did this one finally. One of the greatest/ most important films of the last 20 years.
(The acronym is GRS (Global Response Staff, part of the Agency's Special Activities Division (SAD)-- NOT GBRS) btw. Also, there was another program much like Ground Branch and GRS called Task Force Scorpion, same kind of work but under the NSA instead of the CIA.)
There's also Global Resource Solutions, a Private Shell Contracting Company that works for the Agency/ State Dept.
The interviews with Tanto/ Kris and Oz/ Mark and all the other guys willing to talk since the movie came out have been wild, especially since they know where AQ and the other players were, and the baddies knew exactly where they were even with the Clandestine designation/ framework and nature of the details (apart from what y'all said about standing out and not being "gray man", regional/ traditional or common wear for the area is absolutely important for proper low-pro operations). Mike Glover has also talked about the Benghazi incident and his involvement/ connection.
The book(s) about this whole ordeal and series of Operations and other subsequent happenings are insane, and yeah the bureaucracy is just stupid (one of the big reasons I left Federal/ Defense Contracting).
RIP Ambassador Stevens, Sean Smith, Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty.
(Btw, I still use a Drop-Leg for an overt rig, and many Contractors and Federal requirements require such in various capacities (like overt PSD's, ERT's that i've been on, etc.), I've never had an issue with them.)
Also hope you guys and everyone have a good Memorial Day. RIP to my brothers Elwell, Johnson, Johnson, Walker, and all the rest having given the ultimate sacrifice for freedom both in Military Action and Contracting in the safeguard of our Nation. Never Forgotten.
It was a much better movie than I had though it would be. They could have made it more didactical, more weeping, more wrapped in the flag (like Black Hawk Down). They kept it low-key and let the story speak for itself. That made it a much better movie.
Love your content gentleman. Appreciate you for reviewing the movie because the thoughts of veterans were on the forefront of our minds when the script came together.
The drop leg holster, which many of my coworkers still foolishly use, is a result of the Han Solo rig in Star Wars. It just is much cooler. Useless, but cooler. I think they used the building plans so that the audience gets an idea of where everyone is. It wasn’t done as a true tactical consideration, but for the audience to get an idea of what’s going on.
Some people use them because it is a little easier to draw your weapon while seated. I don't use one but a lot of guys do plus they get that Tacticool points.
@@oldleatherhandsfriends4053It also gets them out of the way of belt/chest gear.
I wore one when I served. But I served as a tanker, not infantry. For me it was more about keeping my side arm out of the way than "quick draw" ability. If I was dismounted I wore it on the lower right of my chest, as recommended by an SAS I met. Like me he fired rifles left handed and pistols right.
@@jodyhannah5931 Did you carry an M9?
@@jodyhannah5931 Small world. I could fire rifle left handed when I went to basic, but they ran out of left handed holsters when they got to my name so I had to learn pistol right handed. So I shoot rifle left handed and pistol right handed.
13 hours is my favorite movie of all time! I've lost count how many times I've watched it. I would guess 40 to 50 times. I watch it from time to time while I'm working out at home. I think my obsession with it is, this freaking happened, their selflessness, stone cold get the job done attitude, screw the consequences when doing the right thing, screw the odds, enemy numbers, and so much more.
Man im in the same boat. Every time I'm in the house alone.
Happy Memorial Day Gents!
We appreciate you, and you live in a grateful nation.
Much appreciated
I couldn't comment on your Top Gun video, so I thought I'd communicate here. Top Gun was a great movie, esp having brother being plane captain for F-4 fighter jet on Enterprise aircraft carrier during VN. In Oregon we grew up fishing. Imagine the rush catching 60lb salmon when you weigh 40lbs? All my dad's fishing partners were war heros in my eyes. One had a son year older than me. We only met while fishing because we went to different schools. This son always talks flying. After graduation he joined military academy and got his pilots license. Then he learned to fly jets. Then he started being a jet test pilot. Then he was nominated for space shuttle. His new wife said no to space, so he became commander of air National Guard. One day he flew jet too Miramar an participated in Top Gun, graduated from course. We meet in local Harley Davidson dealer. He asked me what I was doing over weekend? We're going sailing with Harry's sailboat on Timothy Lake. Cool, watch for me! While out in sailboat, we hear rumble of jet engines get louder. Then we see 4 jets in formation right above tree height. Jets even lower closer over lake where we see 4 rooster tails. The 4 group split into pairs ,now flying on each side of our sailboat. Harry's screaming jets are lower than his mainsail. I see my friend salute me while waving his wings at me. I can clearly see his eyes above his mask. He brought group together of 4 together, flying around Mt Hood and back too Portland. Everyone in boats an on shore are screaming, jumping up an down, pointing to the jets! I had a set of 4 jets find an wave too me, lead by a real Top Gun! I'll never forget the encounter!
I remember one time at a friends house in Mexico a guy goes walking past all the windows in the front yard , everybody goes out to look for him , and find nobody. Meanwhile the other guys in masks with guns are already in the house tying up everybody as they came back one at a time. Talk about falling for the oldest trick in the book, that's exactly what the comanches used to do. Have a good Memorial day everybody and be safe.
Everybody's had that happen.
Met Tig at a lowes last weekend. He was running for mayor in our town. Solid human being, very humble.
A great video. I totally agree with pretty much everything you said. Probably because I am a crappy runner, I hate drop leg holsters.
Being from the PASGT era, I assumed that drop legs were to get around the armor being in the way.
I love your take on Grey Man. My version is: Don't try to be something you obviously are not. Give people a stereotype story they are already inclined to believe.
Additional: The scene with the locals griping about pay... yeah... That reminds so much of bureaucratic work and corporate work...
People lose a quarter because they won't let go of a penny.
Both bean counters and Captain America types often seem to forget that bribery is a very real and accepted thing in much of the world.
And, often, it's not cash. I have bribed people with a pack of Marlboro or a carton of Budweiser or a Zippo lighter.
In an event security situation, I have bribed people with Dixie cups of water.
It's building rapport before stuff goes to crap. So that when it goes South... and it will, people go: This is the nice guy. Let me give him a head's up.
We can't rely on it. But the cost of doing it is miniscule.
Now I gotta watch this movie because when I was in the Army, I went to the area where the airport scene was filmed for a few weeks. It’s in Morocco. That’s the same Base where the hangar scenes from Blackhawk Down were filmed.
Been wondering for a while when you two would do this one. Great Breakdown gents! Thank you for your service, from Canada.
Our qrt in ramadi was about 20 to 30 mins response. They had to leave from camp ramadi to us at thr APD or SHARKBASE, OR SOMETIMES BLUE DIAMOND. Depends where we're running missions to.
Also, one last thing. I too have had the unfortunate experience of the wrong end of a 81mm mortar. Was in Sader City back in 08 4 days after my birthday when our base got hit with multiple mortars. Guess it was a belated birthday present. It landed 9 feet to my right. Only thing the prevented me from being Swiss cheese was where it landed, next to a T wall. I guess, from witnesses, the molten metal went around me blowing me back several feet to my left. When I came to, it felt like the entire right side of my face and head was blown off. All I remember was, that I yelled out, “You Missed Me Mother Fuckers!!” Then passed out again. Until I woke up in the CCP at JSS UR. Guess God must have more for me to do in this world.
I’m glad you’re still here bro
cool story bro.
Reminds me of Zach Hazard's story during ine of his deployements.
Basically their outpost was getting mortared so often, almost everday/night, that he and most dudes in the post were becoming more and more complacent about it since, according to him atleast, they only hit the basketball field or soccer field (can't remember what it was specifically tho, sorry). Anyway, he went out of the barracks building, or whatever it was called, and lazily walked his way to the shelter, all exasperated and exhausted and what not.
While on the way, he calmly takes a cig out and was in the middle of lighting it when one landed 100 feet away from him. He shat his pants, panicked and just hauled ass towards the shelter.
No Words......The emotion is too deep. Excellent Memorial Day presentation!
"All the gods, all the heavens, all the hells, are within you."
I love this movie. Those guys shouldn't have been abandoned. The cruel irony of it happening on 9/11 2012.
There was a comment I saw from a guy who knew a US Marine who was serving in the QRF in Germany. Their CO was on the call for hours with some stooge from the State Department for who refused to give them clerance to go to Libya.
Blame Obama. The buck stopped with him. It cannot be more clear.
@@thomast8539 True, but it was Hillary who was the head of State Department at the time. Her people refused to allow boots on the ground to rescue stranded Americans under siege. US has huge millitary bases in Italy, it wouldn't have been a huge deal to send a fighter squadron to do a fly over...
amazing quote
Wasn't irony. The attack on that specific date was intentional.
The Team House podcast interviewed Sarah Carlson, a Middle East CIA analyst who was directly paired with the American ambassador in Libya before all this happened. She repeatedly tried to get the ambassador to abandon the post but he repeatedly refused more intense security measures, protection, etc. right up to his demise. I recommend it th-cam.com/video/It-Dc83uuRo/w-d-xo.html
that "strive to be the best" quote is awesome! I'm in LE and think that also definitely applies here, as well. I'm stealing that!
Two war films that got me. 1) Saving Private Ryan. 2) 13 Hours. SPR was the first movie to make my stomach turn with that opening scene when I was a kid. 13 Hours pissed me off cuz I had just joined the Army and was old enough to understand what was happening.
I was a PFC with a TS clearance I carried over from Navy Indoc before a conditional release to Army Infantry. It was dumb. Had to go to briefings with Majors and Captains and i was just a TL (team leader on Brads)
what i love about this movie is Michael Bay had the actual operators on the ground (big fan of Tanto and follow him heavily) and he wanted to get the movie as accurate as possible from how fighting actually is, to the true emotion a solider/operator feels from start to the end of it
I love 5.11 and Vertx. My day to day useful clothes around the farm. They aren't for "blending in" (except at my home). They are for convenience, comfort, and usefulness.
Finally! Love this movie!
thanks for being on it!
I love these guys!!! They are keeping it soooo real!!
Civilian and new to your channel. It's always better to learn from the people who lived what Hollywood takes license with. Tons of respect for the job you do and sharing your experience. I'm likely watching episodes out of order as I just subscribed. So coming off both Sicario reviews into 13 Hours had a moment of irony that I'm sure someone else has mentioned. The respect you pointed out for John Krasinski nailing the calling home scene and how moving it was. Almost immediately after that serious moment I laughed at how annoyed you were by Emily Blunt as the FBI agent who's character was out of her depth. She is married to John. I'd love to see them react to your breakdowns. lol Thank you for your service and explaining details of how things work in the real world vs Hollywood BS. Cheers!
love all your stories and content! thanks for your service gentlemen.
Keep rolling in guys, I personally enjoy your videos and have learned a lot about combat cause u give the real prospective killing the Hollywood aspect. Nice video love form 🇮🇳
Where did the term "Grey Man" come from? Robert Jordan's "Wheel of Time?" (Grey man were assassins' for "The Dark One") I've never heard that term used in any military conversations I've had.
The SEAL also had his back to a corner on the stairs so he could protect himself, watch for a tail, and if anyone came from the 2nd floor.
Had his back to the sun and kept his sunglasses on to prevent the white paint in the stairwell from glaring into his eyes too. Perfect placement and shot composition too.
OMG. This was an awesome movie. Good, bad, indifferent. What those guys went through was devastating. No help came when they called. Until the next day. Upper management did them wrong. From the bottom of my heart, "Thank you for your service".
Thanks Sean. This was awesome. Proficiency is proficiency!